Millions of doses have been administered across the world, but it has been revealed today that Pfizer initially turned down the offer to develop its Covid vaccine because executives believed the virus could be “controlled” and that mRNA technology was too experimental. The Telegraph has the story.
Dr. Ugur Sahin and his wife, Dr. Özlem Türeci, the founders of BioNTech, were told “guys, this is not going to work” by the pharmaceutical giant as the virus was starting to sweep the globe in January 2020.
The mRNA technology, which has proved so crucial to the vaccine breakthroughs, was, at the time, also considered too experimental by Dr. Phil Dormitzer, Pfizer’s Vice-President and Chief Scientific Officer for Viral Vaccines.
“My working assumption was that it [Covid] would be controlled” like the SARS and MERS outbreaks, Dr. Dormitzer admits.
The initial rejection, revealed in a new book, came just days after the Turkish-born couple decided to dedicate BionNTech to creating an mRNA based Covid jab, effectively gambling the business on something that had never been done before. Their company is now worth $85 billion.
Yet Drs. Sahin and Türeci remain close to Pfizer and Dr. Dormitzer, or “Phil” as they know him.
Dr Sahin had a detailed image in his mind of how the pandemic would unfold but also thought the Pfizer man’s assessment “completely rational”.
“After the phone call with Phil, I just thought for a second and said ‘we will call him again in a few weeks,’” Dr. Sahin told the Telegraph.
The couple thought it only a “matter of time” before the drugs giant changed its mind – and they were right. A deal was announced between the two companies a month later.
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Ten days early? Organisations need to be careful about the calendar at this time of year!
Yes, and the astrology!
The WHO failed with Covid. Nearly everything they did was wrong, and timed badly.
Really there needs to be a review at a fundamental level as to why the WHO behaved as it did (ie, where there harmful influences).
Actually encouraging the WHO (in current form) is the last thing the world should be doing.
The WHO are fundamental to the whole Agenda 2030 plan. The UK is perfectly capable of dealing with Winter coughs and colds left to its own devices.
Comments like this really get my back up. So the last three years were a cock-up?
Good grief.
Yes.. ^^^^
Thanks George.
No problem.. I get really irritated when people push off what’s gone/going on as just being irresponsible or incompetent. Its neither.. its planned and deliberate.
Too fecking right!
There won’t be another pandemic but there will be a ‘Plandemic’. In my opinion as long as there is gain of function research ongoing across the world then this is inevitable. But, as I understand it, you cannot have a virus which is both super deadly and super transmissible ( because it would kill the host, therefore impacting its ability to spread effectively ) so there would be the usual huge emphasis on PsyOp and fear porn once again and I really can’t see sufficient people falling for it again. Monkey Pox failed, Marburg failed…another bird flu? And can you really see people lining up in their droves to be tested once more? Gatesy and his pals can dream on. ”Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”.. springs to mind.
There was a ‘Plandemic’ the first time around.. just driven by dodgy a PCR test and not stop fear porn..
Mogs, I don’t believe gain of function research has anything to do with Billy’s next Plandemic. He wants one, Agenda 2030 wants one and that’s all there is to it:
Pandemic Preparedness Treaty, revised International Health Regulations. Enough said.
Next Scamdemic 2024 or 2025 particularly as Net Zero has been brought forward to 2040.
Yes.. things are moving fast now. Whether that’s because the wheels are falling off and the parasites are panicking.. or.. because they feel so cock sure of themselves and feel they can push the envelope harder and faster.. any ideas ???
George, this is what I posted on 20th March on the Net Zero article:
I think there are two ways of looking at this:
1. The Davos Deviants are running scared and believe if they don’t get on with their mission then it could all fall apart under the weight of the awakening and fierce resistance.
2. The Davos Deviants are flushed with the success of the last three years and have decided to ramp up their tactics while most of the population are still in shock at what has happened and continues to happen and before the masses wake up.
I suppose it could even be a mixture of the two. Either way they are clearly intent on ensuring the nastiness levels become supercharged given that their time -lines have been shortened by a third.
Summat big is on the way.
The shortened time-lines was a reference to the Net Zero target date being brought forward from 2050 to 2040.
Thanks for that Huxley.. my thinking entirely.
I guess the game is exactly that.. keep people guessing. Have so many events of varying types kicking off all over the planet that even the relatively well informed are always a step.. or two.. behind!
You’d have thought that viruses like that are too indiscriminate, compared with other lethal products, such as the Russian one used in Salisbury a few years ago. Even then, they accidentally killed someone else rather than the intended victim.
Ah yes.. those dastardly Russians releasing Novichok.. just a drop being deadly enough to kill thousands.. I’m not even sure John that the lady who died was actually killed by said (imaginary) substance. The woman was a drug addict if I recall and in poor health.
As for Skripals.. whatever happened to them..?? A long holiday courtesy of MI6 I wouldn’t be surprised..
I bought a new bottle of aftershave today (almost impossible to find nowadays, as men’s skin has been become soo sensitive that it can tolerate disinfectants anymore but needs loads of perfume instead) and the sole inner Reading shop still selling this has a female employee who’s much younger than all the others, at best, in the early 20s. I saw her last months ago, probably Spring 2022. By that time, I was wondering if she would ever let go of her cloth mask and the thought that she was still so frightened of COVID made me a little sad. Fast forward to Spring 2023, she’s obviously still wearing it. She’ll probably still be wearing it when the next scamdemic comes around and will frantically jump on that bandwagon as well. I’d really like to say something like
Deine Blödheit kotzt mich an! Bloß Arschgesichter wie Du haben uns in diese Scheiße geritten!
[Your pigheadedness makes me want to puke! It’s solely ass-faced people like you who got us into that shithole! — the English version is by far not vulgar enough]
to her. An unscientific estimate of mine is that about 1% of the population still really believe in COVID and that there were never really more than that. That’s enough to get everything train-rewrecked once the opportunity arises, as it inevitably will unless it’s nipped in the bud by the perhaps also 1% of the people who got inellectually past both Must be ok if the government asks for it! and No use putting one’s head above the parapet!
I SO want to believe you but…
The censoring of scientific discussion will be even more rife with the WHO plandemic implementation.
Sound of Silenced Science
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2LaDrDL4g4
Well seeing as Bill runs the joint.. its hardly surprising is it..??
Overthinking it again, particularly the last paragraph. If Billy wants to find another “pandemic” he will find one, or invent one – now where have I heard that before?
And if salaries depend on confirming a “pandemic” once it has been found it will be confirmed even so much as a cough, if of course right time, right place, right country are established. Realistically I suppose these will be confirmed before the “find.”
Hasn’t Billy already told us “you will notice the next one?”
National governments will react to the ‘next pandemic’ not because of a culture of fear or safetyism but as they are instructed by TPTB – Black Rock etc.
I assume Eugypius’s “pandemic free future” phrase means he has swallowed the nonsense of pandemics.
Pandemics, or what we are told are pandemics are simply stage one in the destruction of nations.
People need to wake up. The name of their game is depopulation but it hides behind an inocuous title – Agenda 2030.
Gates isn’t a menace, he’s a mass murderer.
While not disagreeing with you, HP, I am not wholly convinced that Gates is the one calling the shots, as I think you imply.
As I’ve argued before, I think he may well be a (blackmailed) frontman (one of many) for the military-industrial-intelligence complex, and it is the complex that will decide where and when to release a lab-enhanced virus, and how lethal and infectious that virus will be.
That’s an interesting hypothesis. We’ll need to find more clues and evidence in order to help give your theory legs.
Yes.. he’s right. There’s a definite trail leading to the US Dept of Defence. Cast iron evidence, no hypothetical thinking. I can’t put my finger on a link right now but if not in this thread I will get one across to you..
Yup, with you on that Mogs.
Is that not essentially what people like Sasha Latypova, David Martin and Katherine Watt have been saying (or implying)? That it is all about bioweapons and countermeasures, both developed under the supervision of the US Dept of Defence (as George L refers below).
It’s just when you mentioned blackmail. I don’t know who would blackmail Gates or why. But I’m well aware of the fact it’s all a US, DoD orchestrated gig. But why would the DoD, for instance, blackmail Gates? He’s gladly been all about developing and profitting from vaccines and impersonating a public health expert for years of his own volition.
I think Moggy.. Gates just has to do what he’s told. Yes he’s got the bread, but there are far more powerful entities than him in the mix..
“But why would the DoD, for instance, blackmail Gates?”
I would suggest 3 reasons: 1) they need frontmen who are happy to push the narrative to the world’s media – who better than a trusted (by the masses) philanthropist who also invests heavily in vaccines; 2) because they can (Jeffrey Epstein); 2) to ensure he stays on script.
I do not doubt that Gates is evil, so probably doesn’t need blackmail to justify doing evil himself – and he is allowed by the complex to continue his philanthropy and vaccine investment activity as long as he complies with their wishes.
Yes exactly that.. Michael.. bags of evidence too..
Thanks, George
Fair enough.
The Bill Gates contribution to the WHO is the Gates Foundation + GAVI which is funded almost entirely by the Gates foundation. So Gates is the biggest funder of the WHO.
Gates is also the sole decision maker at the Gates Foundation.
I don’t know about anywhere else, but down here, in the real world, nobody gives away $1 billion a year and doesn’t expect to exert influence.
In the real world, he who pays calls the shots.
Exactly.. well put.. I couldn’t have said it better myself, although I did post the shortened version further up..
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The BMGF is the largest private funder of GAVI but not the largest funder; most of their funds come from governments being generous with their citizens’ money. https://web.archive.org/web/20230302011843/https://www.gavi.org/investing-gavi/funding/current-period-2021-2025
GAVI was set up at the WEF Davos forum in 2000 https://web.archive.org/web/20221006232413/https://www.savethechildren.de/news/20-jahre-im-einsatz-fuer-kinder-die-impfallianz-gavi/
Event 201
WEF bought
WHO bought
GAVI bought
ID2020 his baby
MSM bought and paid for.
Gates is the private financier of a lot of organisations with converging Malthusian aims.
He sure is.. busy man is our Billy.. I’ve emailed him on several occasions suggesting he jump out of window 95 or if he was feeling adventurous window 98. Never got a straight answer off him.. he went all Millennium on me..
“Global Epidemic Response and Mobilisation team, or GERM”
Eghrrrrr! It makes you skin crawl!
Is there a wealthy bunch of despots that sit around a 60ft long mahogany table in a carved out mountain somewhere stroking white cats and arbitrarily discussing our fate! and I bet they all have monocles
This light machine-gun will reliably kill 99.9% of GERM should it come around.
Can I pull the trigger? please please !
It isn’t – or shouldn’t be – controversial to state that a healthy immune system can deal with an infection successfully (otherwise there wouldn’t be 8 billion human beings in the world) or at least is more likely to overcome an infection than a weakened immune system.
But nowhere in the World Health Organisation’s document – nor in any of the interviews or writings of Bill Gates which I have seen and heard, nor in anything I’ve heard from Dr Fauci – is there any mention of how to help and encourage people to build up a healthy natural immune system. This is puzzling to understand, if they actually care about people being healthy.
The point Dr Mike Yeadon makes is that there cannot be a viral pandemic that kills en masse. For a virus to succeed it must mutate to ensure that it does not kill its hosts. If it did kill ultimately it would literally reach dead end. And this is why progressive immunity gained across populations is so effective and has ensured our species survival. In today’s parlance – herd immunity but I detest the phrase for its bovine connotations.
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Mr Gates’ plan is a sort of oxymoron. He plans to gather the world’s finest experts to plan and then police the future – the same experts who have got it wrong for the last three respiratory virus pandemics, who failed to listen to the knowledgable clinicians.
if Anders Tegnall is in charge we might be OK. There is a handful of other names, like Heneghan and Jefferson, and perhaps the Daily Sceptics team could be i/c management. I’d be happy to help. Otherwise we will have the same cock-up as before.
Sadly you seem to have swallowed the Scamdemic wholesale.
How many times does someone on here have to say: This was NEVER about health. If you understand that, you can move on to what’s coming.
Damn right. Well put.
Gates is EVIL. He uses his money to spread his evil ideas. The guy is a creep with insufficient education to be the arbiter of the actions he proposes. His fortune should not give him power in the areas he tries to influence. The WHO is not an elected organisation, so should not have power over governments and with the addition of the Gates madness, its time for it to be disbanded.
“knows what to do when a potential outbreak emerges”, Huh!! How can it be ‘potential’ if it’s ’emerged’?? If he can’t even get this comment right, what hope is there?
No thank you Bill!
No thank you WHO!