Reports suggest that ministers are concerned by the supposed lack of people wearing face masks, despite telling Brits it is now a matter of personal choice, and are considering reintroducing mandates for indoor public spaces if “things are getting increasingly difficult in the NHS” this winter. The Mail has the story.
Ministers are now concerned by falling compliance in supermarkets, trains and buses amid rising infection levels. Yesterday there were another 37,622 Covid cases and 147 deaths.
There are also 8,098 patients in hospital with the virus – a six-month high and a rise of 6% in a week.
Although Government sources insist a mask mandate is not imminent, the fact it is being considered will concern Tory backbenchers.
They are already angry at being asked to renew the emergency Covid powers that allow ministers to impose restrictions.
A source said: “We are looking to strengthen guidance on masks if it gets to the point where things are getting increasingly difficult in the NHS.
“We expect and recommend that members of the public continue to wear face coverings in crowded and enclosed spaces where you come into contact with people you don’t normally meet – for example, on public transport.”
Next week the Prime Minister will publish a winter Covid plan, expected to include plans for coronavirus vaccine booster shots and the biggest flu jab roll-out in history to ease pressure on the NHS.
But at the same time he will urge MPs to extend the 2020 Coronavirus Act which gives ministers the powers to bring back restrictions if cases rise to unsustainable levels.
Steve Baker, Deputy Chairman of the Covid Recovery Group of anti-lockdown Tory MPs, said he would vote against any extension to “egregious” Covid powers. …
“Once again the Government isn’t willing to give up powers once they have been gained.” …
Mr. Johnson has told ministers another lockdown is out of the question and has ordered the Government to do everything possible to avoid future restrictions.
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Jeez. When is it going to enter the consciousness of the majority of Britons that masks do not prevent the transmission of respiratory viruses to any significant extent. At best, the most effective surgical-grade masks are 13% effective. The common blue disposible masks clearly tell you on the packaging that they do not work. Just how stupid are people who wear masks?
Re: mask wearing in shops, dcotors premises etc. If this is for pre-emptive Health & Safety issues, then the organisation should provide the PPE before entering their premises, and also a means of disposing of the clinical waste on leaving their premises.
They do provide sterile masks that haven’t been touched by anyone resulting in unknown contamination? Masks in sealed packaging just like other clinical equipment? They do have a process in hand for disposing of their clinical waste, don’t they? Surely it would be negligent not to dispose of their clinical waste in a correct manner?
The jobsworth game can be fun if you do it properly.
This might be very “late in the day” , but I have just read the transcription of the interview on UK Column with Professor Christian Perronne – if you never read another post referred to in the DS, make certain you read this. If you read the the DFCE post “Regulation or Racket? UK Drug Regulator Never Inspected the Pfizer Vaccine Study Data” and then listen to him – they, in combination, destroy the Pfizer jab as well as torpedo the MHRA/PHE prior statements – if you have had any doubt about what SARS COV2/pandemic/vaccination entails., you will be disavowed in graphic detail.
Folks this is game changer day when this is sent to all faltering sceptics and others – bring on all the tossers backing Johnson/Biden/Merkel/Macron/SAGE/NERVTAG/MHRA… the unmasking of this gigantic fraud has got to the stage where it cannot be retrieved by all the parties to the biggest pan country fraud in history – no longer am I going to be polite to those who don’t or won’t get it – WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE
First time around they built, at vast expense (which of the Ministers chums got that contract?) Nightingale Hospitals. The venerable lady would surely be turning in her grave given that she believed in treating people and doing no harm. The NHS closed all the hospitals. The NHS was told not to treat people with basic care such as Ivermectin. Meanwhile they left people outside to die and allowed a 12.5 million queue to build up.
The Nightingale in Birmingham was one of the most heavily used. At its peak it had 12 patients. Now ask me why I will never vote for any of the parties currently in Parliament ever again.
Why vote for a party at all? Why not vote for a credible independent candidate? It’s academic, though: meaningful elections are a thing of the past.
I’ve been asked twice. The first time was at Wickes just as the Manager was telling staff how they should deal with customers who come in without a mask. He called across and asked “Excuse me Sir, you need a mask”. I called back “I have an exemption”. He wasn’t terribly amused. As far as I’m concerned a reasonable reason, which is all you need, is that they are stupid, and I am exempt from being stupid. You do not have to tell them the exemption either. I happen to have COPD but that is rather beside the point and certainly not the business of any tin pot Hitler or this disgusting “Government”.
Good luck with getting me to follow stupidity!
I am afraid the real culprit here is humanity’s urge to “do something” in the face of a threat.
Masks are a way of politicians being seen to act. It is as simple as that.
Reality is much more in line with the next article on this site showing the virus declines in Florida. This illness seems to do what it does. Most of our “action” is counter productive.
Possible that vaccines help, although the evidence does seem mixed. Every other intervention clearly does not do much. I even believe that there are natural reasons why much of the Oceanic hemisphere has suffered limited impact that is only marginally linked to border closures and so forth. We simply have not identified them.
Dr John Launer in his wise compassionate clinially astute epic How Not to Be a Doctor cautioned “Dont just do something, stand there” a first do no harm reminder of one of medicines fundamental intellectual and ethical precepts and call to arms for evidence based interventions some years before the great white (ahem) hope of EBM briefly rose and died before beaurocratic (or worse) capture. I still believe they didnt have to intervene with draconion unproven measures because of say … not since replicated footage of people dropping down dead on pavements in Wuhan? I do believe there are in fact effective interventions – see flccc.com
Bureaucratic.
No mask for me again!! Simply won’t wear one they don’t work!!
Who didn’t see this coming
They.don’t.work – well not to stop the transmission of an aerosolised respiratory virus anyway. But is that the purpose of government mandates? I suspect not.
I actually prefer this creep wear a mask.
Honestly f off all of you ministers and people idiots that think microscopic viruses are stopped by fabric masks. Absolute madness
I have learned that the Bodleian Library have now dropped the requirement to ‘book’ a time slot for a visit.
So, on Monday I will visit the ‘Admissions Office’ without a face-nappy (it is ‘strongly recommended’) to renew my ‘ticket’ and then go to various libraries also without a face-nappy and see what happens.
I am almost certain that there will be no challenge to this.
The Royal Albert Hall ‘strongly recommend’ customers wear a face covering ‘at all times’ during all their events. It seems many are not taking that advice. On the BBC Proms coverage tonight on BBC2, in a capacity audience with standing at the Albert Hall, from the coverage I reckon 5% are wearing masks. This is the sort of thing that will give the likes of Susan Michie an attack of the vapours.
Of course they are.
Masks = fear = compliance = lockdowns = gene therapy = digital passports = reset.
Tory backbenchers will do jack shit about it as usual.
Its not a lack of “Compliance” its a lack of belief ,nothing has happened to those who have not worn a mask they know this we know this why would we suddenly re believe that masks are the way to go ..That pieces of cloth or paper will stop an individual from getting infected with a virus tht most have been vaccinated twice to pevent .Its a non starter .i think the doom merchants even on this site who think its all inevitable should realise that people have been to football matches ,to pubs and nighgtclubs ,to crowded beaches ,to cinemas How can the government suddenly say oh this wont do you all have to wear masks again because nothing happened when you didnt i can already hear a collective and hearty cry of FUCH RIGHT OFF.
How could Stalin have overseen the murder of twenty two million people? How could Mao have been responsible for the murder of many millions more than twenty two million? How can a general sitting on his arse miles behind the lines order hundreds of thousands of men living in filth and the decomposing bodies of their comrades to charge into a hail of machine gun fire?
Most people will put the masks back on if ordered to do so, even by a moronic, pimply faced shop assistant, many have never taken them off – I still see people driving with masks on, even when alone and on a country lane.
Have at It!!
This is BRILLIANT work!
https://twitter.com/TheRustler83/status/1436583453315813379?s=20
Let the moronic, pathetic, brainless, clueless, mind dead idiots wear their face nappies if that’s how they want to lead their pointless, aimless lives but leave the rest of us to try and enjoy ours.
Go to the North Yorkshire Dales. I think they’ll be loath to give up their unmuzzled freedom, from what we saw of it two weeks ago. Not a muzzle in sight.
Though – I did post here a comment about our experience at a dinner only two weekends ago (W Midlands) where the invitation said ”Masks will be worn”. I turned up, all aflame with virtue and a HighNoon burning… but when we went into the Hall, about a third of the guests already there were free-faced. (Moment of Glory denied me.) Everyone else walked in free-faced too. The next day the doorman told me that people had turned up, donning their muzzles, but saw people inside free-faced so then pocketed theirs pronto!) So no-one was muzzled (out of more than 100 people) except for the serving staff and even they ditched theirs by the third course! Everyone hugging and kissing and pleased to see friends they’d been denied contact with – and I know for a fact that many of these are jabbees!
This peer group pressure. Easily done with muzzles, of course. Less easily with children’s jabs, etc. A howl of protest is what’s needed to show the… Read more »
Nice to hear.
Actually myself and Mrs FP have just returned from a 4 day break in a 4 star hotel near Halifax and only saw 1 mask in the whole 4 days.
thats good and bad – people comply until they realise they don’t have to – but without the communal nod many of the same people would of course been tut-tutting at you. I fear your moment of glory moment may yet still come and the outcome depend on a few brave people in the room declaring “I’m Banjones!”
The reintroduction of masks are the ultimate testament to the inefficacy of covid vaccines (as a disease prevention measure).
PS Thanks, Stewart. I know you saw my original comment.
Good point!
And a good laugh for Boris and mates to see just how compliant the English are. The Scots and Welsh haven’t even taken them off!
No mask and the Police will fine you £500.
and the ultimate testament to the inefficacy of masks as a disease prevention measure
They can shove there masks up their arses.
They’d probably do just as much to stop transmission up there
After which they will make your wear one.
Went to the farmers market in our area this morning. Packed with people and not one mask in sight. Then down in the West End for a lunch party. Absolutely packed with 99% of people not wearing masks. Oh what a joyous sight. I doubt very much that mandating masks again will go down very well. The government have cried wolf too often and they will not be prepared to forgo their freedoms again.
Cried wolf yes, so people will need a jolly good show if they are to believe masks are necessary again….cue mass vaccine deaths when they turn up the EMF waves and their compromised immune systems are whacked by influenza.
Not so much cry wolf as cry ‘King Kong and Godzilla Morris dancing ‘.
They got away with it last time because there was no vax. Now we have the “safe and effective” vaxxes that protect no one and have harmed many, and caused deaths (not being talked about right now!) Now even those who’ve been jabbed, who believe that the vast majority of the population have also been jabbed, will be wondering why the naps, when they were promised “freedom” if they took the stabs!
I hope all this socializing and celebrating isn’t because people feel “safe” because soon even the children will be “vaccinated.” (The most loathsome word in the English lexicon.)
So they’re going to get stuck in there like rats up a drainpipe with their ‘new coronavirus emergency powers’. ”What shall we do first, lads? Ah, yes – another mask mandate! All the terrified little jabbees are continuing to wear them anyway, so we need something to differentiate the Unclean. How about masks with a yellow star or something….?”
Sweden had no mask mandates since day1.
We all know masks do not work against this flu!
I have a niece who works in Social Care. She has to wear a face mask and now she tells me she has breathing problems and doesn’t think she can carry on doing the work as her energy levels has plummeted.
That upvote was in sympathy.
People should be mindful that whatever happens this autumn/winter will likely happen every autumn/winter.
That’s quite clear that the Fat Clown would like to incarcerate us in our homes with masks.
Wouldn’t it be nice if instead of whingeing on the sidelines our MPs stopped agreeing to the Juntas Covid extensions! What a cowardly craven bunch of oxygen wasters!
If lockdowns, masks and vaccines work, why do we still need lockdowns, masks and vaccines?
If they don’t work. Why are we doing them at all?
The Fat Fraud is trying to reassert control over us. Now the question is knowing what we now know how many of you are willibg to get back on your knees?
The ones who don’t read articles and comments here.
99.7% are willing to get back on their knees to ‘protect others’ and ‘Save The NHS’.
To demoralise you and make you completely obedient to the State. It has happened, it is happening, it will continue to happen.Unless someone does something. But no-one will.