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Fewer Than 1 in 200 Travellers From “Amber List” Countries Are Testing Positive for Covid

by Michael Curzon
21 June 2021 9:50 AM

Thousands of holidays have been ruined by the Government placing countries – most recently, Portugal – on its travel “Amber List”, forcing travellers who didn’t cancel their plans to fork out for at least two PCR tests and to quarantine for 10 days upon their return. But new data shows that fewer than one in 200 travellers from Amber List countries are testing positive when back in Britain. This discovery has led to more calls for restrictions to be eased before more harm is done to the already battered travel industry. The Times has more.

An analysis of the latest figures from NHS Test and Trace, which are updated every three weeks, also shows no “variants of concern” were detected from any passenger returning from one of the 167 countries on the Amber List.

Only 89 of 23,465 passengers who travelled to the U.K. from these destinations between May 20th and June 9th tested positive for the coronavirus – a rate of 0.4%. There were no positive cases from 151 of these countries…

Nobody travelling from countries on the quarantine-free “Green List” – which includes 11 destinations at present – tested positive during the same period and there were no variants of concern found.

Last night Conservative MPs and travel experts said the data revealed that the border restrictions were too strict as they increased pressure on ministers to significantly expand the green list when they meet on Thursday.

They also said the data strengthened the case for allowing travellers who have had both jabs to be exempt from quarantine, a policy which a senior cabinet minister has appeared to support…

Sir Graham Brady, Chairman of the 1922 Committee of Conservative MPs, said it was time ministers started to take advantage of Britain’s successful vaccine programme.

“Vaccination and testing are making international travel safer just as surely as they make things safer within our borders,” he said. “It’s time British people were able to reap the benefits of the vaccines and for us to get the travel industry moving again.”

Any easing of restrictions is likely to focus on those vaccinated against Covid (possibly just on those who have had both doses of a vaccine), leaving those who – for medical or other personal reasons – have not been vaccinated stuck at home.

Worth reading in full.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago

It’s ramped up again.

Listening to BBC Radio 5 live this morning they are ripping into people who won’t take part in this experiment as it means they can never drop the testing and closing of schools due to single cases. They want your blood, literally.

It’s total disinformation to suggest 100% vaccination will achieve this kind of goal. Science is truly dead.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

I think it’s buyer’s remorse now.
They have heard the stories about deaths and adverse effects post-vaccination, stories which will only grow; they have noticed how the vaccinated are not getting any more freedom than the unvaxed, and they are angry.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
4 years ago

“Fewer Than 1 in 200 Travellers From “Amber List” Countries Are Testing Positive for Covid”
1 in 200 = 0.5%

False Positive Rate for the PCR test is anything between 0.8% and 4%, according to HMG.

Conclusion: the positive tests are statistical noise.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

PUT THEM ON THE RED LIST

DO IT NOW

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Caption Competition

‘The policy of putting the masked in a corner on their own appears to be working’

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alw
alw
4 years ago

As per usual fine words from Graham Brady and the 1922 committee. How about some real action and ending what we all know is a complete farce? How about resigning the whip? No I thought not. Cowards everyone.

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unmaskthetruth
unmaskthetruth
4 years ago

I like the banner advert above this article saying ‘freedom to fly’ just take a gold standard PCR test. Pure irony from LS!

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago

quick straw poll

1 – vaccine works

2 – vaccine doesn’t really work but not that bad for you

3 – vaccine enhanced disease, fertility issues, decades of saying ‘how could we have done that?’

I’m somewhere between 2 and 3

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

4 – Irrespective of whether it works or is safe, a vaccine against COVID-19 is unnecessary for nearly everyone.

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

unnecessary and morally wrong. there are so many new vaccines, designed on a spreadsheet in an afternoon, not properly tested. at least some of them will have awful consequences I’m sure.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Like Mandating Seatbelts for Settees.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

5 – It kills all those who chose to trust Bill Gates and Matt Hancock, with their life.

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J4mes
J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

4 – Irrespective of whether it works or is safe, a vaccine against COVID-19 is unnecessary for nearly everyone.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

Snap.

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

I’m somewhere between 3 & 10, unfortunately.

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  X - In Search of Space

lol

what’s 10? earth gets eaten by a space goat?

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Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

No evidence of immune enhancement so far. Still could come up for some, perhaps, but “no signal”. Widespread clotting likely causing the multitude of symptoms reported, potential epigenetic effects, fertility issues for girls highly possible, girls and women, widespread effects on the heart, an unknown number of deaths which manufacturers and those linked to research grants wish to describe as coincidence, clear 3.
But whether decades of “how could they have done it,” or decades of denial, suppression and the isolation and persecution of those who point it out is another thing.

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

The only point of the UK vaxx programme is to quickly herd the Brit masses toward a draconian track/trace Digital Health ID net, all part of the ‘NEW NORMAL’ techno-social-control systems designed to reshape the way the UK functions.
 
Your personal well-being or individual healthiness has in fact fux all to do with it.
 
 

hancock2wef.jpg
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Hawkins_94
Hawkins_94
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

On the Delingpod it was saying 10-20% who are double vaccinated won’t receive any of its perceived benefits (don’t harangue me saying there are none, it’s not the point I’m making). Essentially tens of thousands of elderly will die this winter regardless (as they tend to do, y’know, humans being mortal and all that) and it’ll be the unvaccinated who are blamed.

I have to say I’m not convinced the vaccines are going to be shown to be some deadly injection…I fully agree with the principle of first do no harm and for that reason alone I’m out, but I don’t know anyone who’s had a truly significant adverse reaction so far which includes all of my close family.

That doesn’t mean it’s right or that nothing will show up long term, I would have just expected to hear more word of issues on the ground if there were. Long way to go yet I know.

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago

“Prof Anthony Harnden, deputy chair of the government’s advisory committee on vaccination, has been addressing some of the questions around Covid booster jabs.
He tells BBC Radio 4’s Today programme work is under way testing seven different vaccines for autumn boosters, to see how they might react with each other and with a flu vaccine.
The last point is important because he says: “Flu could be potentially a bigger problem this winter than Covid.””

lockdown! I wonder what they will do if covid truly disappears but flu is at the level of a bad year. They’ll have to lockdown and it will do fuck all!

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago

madness

BBC breaking news

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57551368

a footballer I’ve never heard of has a cold

This is Alice in Wonderland stuff.

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rtaylor
rtaylor
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

Kid was playing football in the rain in north London, that’ll teach him.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

The narrative will probably now say “he hadn’t had a vaccination yet. So this is why everyone needs to have one”.

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chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Probably has and will have no symptoms, but at least he didn’t drop down dead on the pitch

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

Be interesting if it’s a false positive…

High profile case of ooops, then maybe more people will become aware of how they’ve been lied to

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

False positives are now the stuff of anti-vaxx conspiracy theorists.

To be fair, the testing vs “cases” positive rate did bottom out at around 0.15%, which was lower than the estimated false positive rate for either PCR or lateral flow.

And yet I never saw a single legacy media outfit question the narrative that these were all real “cases”.

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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago

And of those 0.4% half were definetely not infectious, even if there were no false positives, which made up the bulk if not all of those positively tested anyway, of course.
See Uni Duisburg Essen study results, based upon a proper, factual lab analysis of the actual data of Munsteranian people (not dogs…), by establishment ‘scientists’ not ‘Covid deniers’.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago

Japanese companies kill some of thier staff

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-06-companies-vaccines-workers-boosting-japan.html

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/hancock-pulls-the-plug-on-the-national-health-service/ Plain evil coercion

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Well – any unvaxed refused treatment should be able to claim back all the money they have paid in taxes towards the NHS over the years and have a reduction in tax going forward to reflect that the NHS will not treat them. They will be able to buy very good private healthcare with the money saved. If such a law is passed I will write to my MP telling them I will no longer be paying for the NHS and also that I expect my money that I have already paid towards the NHS over many years returned. People should not have to pay for something they cannot use. Imagine if for example, a members only gym announced that it was going to refuse access to certain members then continued to charge them the full membership rate.

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iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

Well, you can certainly write to your MP – probably just as effectively as my assorted letters down the years and especially over the last 16 months. Makes one so proud of British democracy!

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

Anyone hear Mr Stanley Johnson joking about his ‘Stanley Johnson Exemption’ to travel

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
4 years ago

Can’t incoming travellers just self-identify as football apparatchiks?

Who knew that it requires 2,500 officials to watch 22 overgrown kids chasing a ball around.

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Jane G
Jane G
4 years ago

I kept reading reports about (one of) the BA pilots who died following internal injuries following a trail bike accident. No clarity about whether the vaccine was involved. One other older pilot died after hundreds of days in hospital with Covid; don’t know if he had been jabbed.
Another pilot’s eyes affected when at altitude…
The growing feeling was that vaccinated people would be at greater risk of clotting during air travel than the unvaccinated.
Sheesh!

My Ivermectin order was delivered today (yay!) But that won’t gain me a free pass to anything, other than peace of mind and total immunity from vaccine adverse-effects.

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C S
C S
4 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

Where can you buy it? Dont think it needs a prescription, right?

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Jane G
Jane G
4 years ago
Reply to  C S

India!
I got mine from Rupa Pharmac. Bit of a faff and had to search via duckduckgo as I doubt Google would have yielded anything. Then had to download an app called WISE, iirc, in order to send payment safely (and there I was hoping I could use PayPal!)
Took about 10 days to arrive but was cheaper than the Canadian outlets.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

Could be anything. Road dust and cow shit swept up and pressed into tablets? You have to be wildly optimistic to order anything through the post from countries like India or China – they can sell you any old shit and how can you complain? Especially when you’re dead.

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TreeHugger
TreeHugger
4 years ago

Jersey have added England to their Red list meaning from 29th June un-jabbed have to isolate for 5 days regardless as to their test results on arrival. That’s my 5 night break cancelled and I’ll never go to their stinking island again.

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

I am sorry but we are just going to have to accept that we cannot book any oversees travel at the moment. I personally have not booked any foreign travel as there is no end in sight to this madness.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

I’m taking the same approach but bear in mind there are many (millions) in this country with close relatives abroad who they will want to see and probably already have delayed seeing them for 18 months.

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yeap I feel for those people

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TreeHugger
TreeHugger
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

My ex husband’s mum (Gran to my 2 lads) has just been rushed to hospital in Spain. It doesn’t look good (she’s mid 80s) and my ex is beside himself & terrified he’ll never get to see her again, they still don’t allow relatives in hospital. His Dad is all alone too. If the worst happens I doubt the grandkids will be able to attend the funeral.
It’s all pure evil.

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TreeHugger
TreeHugger
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

We booked Jersey for that reason. It’s not supposed to count as overseas. It will have to be Cornwall now.

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

Don’t let it put you off Jersey though, I went there on holiday a few years ago and it is lovely.

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TreeHugger
TreeHugger
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

I’ve been before. It was my parents honeymoon destination, so on the anniversary of his death
5 years ago I took Mum as it would have been their Golden wedding anniversary. That was in April, so I was hoping to make use of the glorious beaches this time as we were traveling in August. It is a beautiful island.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

Cornwall gone red with Covid ‘cases’. Can you think of anything that might have happened down there in the past two weeks that may have caused this ‘spike’?

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago

Covid UK news – live: Boris Johnson warns of ‘rough winter’ as lockdown unlikely to be eased before 19 July (msn.com)

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

They are starting to push the winter now, and the narrative is expanding to include flu because they are worried they won’t be able to manufacture enough panic via covid because cases will drop to low level and everyone will have been jabbed so they run out of excuses – they will try variants and boosters too, but if you have flu as well as covid to use an excuse for fascism, it gives you more room to lie.

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I keep telling everyone I know that there will be another lockdown in winter. They all think I am mad……. They all thought I was mad in March 2020 when I said lockdowns are dangerous and that this was going to go on for years.

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I am Spartacas
I am Spartacas
4 years ago

This man is aboslutely spot on …

‘Matt Hancock says that if the NHS hospitals become overwhelmed then the vaccine -refusers will be refused treatment but if the vaccine refusers are refused hospital treatments then who is overwhelming the hospitals?

https://twitter.com/annaberu/status/1406891569257533441

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

He makes a very good point

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ellie-em
ellie-em
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

I can’t open the link. Just keep getting ‘something went wrong’.

Edit: it’s working now. Thanks.

Last edited 4 years ago by ellie-em
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Paul B
Paul B
4 years ago

What’s the false positive rate again?

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PhilEvans
PhilEvans
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

I don’t know. Ask Billy Gilmour.
But seriously: does anyone know what the false positive rate is? To measure it, you need to monitor a sample of people who test positive and see how things develop. It’s no use simply counting the number of people who get ill. In practice the vast majority of people who test positive don’t develop symptoms and don’t get ill.
Currently the false positive rate must by now be well over 99%, as the prevalence is so low.

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PhilEvans
PhilEvans
4 years ago

“Come, friendly Delta, fall on SAGE”.
Perhaps one of the reasons that so few people are currently (June 2021) hospitalised with “lab-confirmed covid” is that the delta variant (representing 75% of “cases”) is relatively benign in causing illness compared to the original? If this is the case, and even more so if exposure to the variant also triggers immunity to the original, why is there any need to take any counter-measures at all? The incoming delta naturally protects against the original! It might even turn out that the current lull in cases is attributable to the delta’s successfully taking over the market share, rather than a “successful” vaccination programme.
“Delta is the new summer cold”. “Delta is a scariant.”

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JustMe
JustMe
4 years ago

Only 89 of 23,465 passengers who travelled to the U.K. from these destinations between May 20th and June 9th tested positive for the coronavirus – a rate of 0.4%.

I wonder what the false positive rate is………………

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