The doom-mongers of SAGE were out in force again yesterday, building on their recent victory in Downing Street to keep stoking the fear. The Independent brings us the latest wisdom from Imperial College’s Professor Neil Ferguson.
The third wave of COVID-19 cases in the UK has already began, according to Government advisers – who said it was possible strict lockdown curbs would have to reintroduced at some point this year.
It comes as a new study commissioned by the Government found Covid infections have increased 50% since the start of May – as the country struggles to combat the rise of the highly-transmissible Delta variant first detected in India.
“We’re at the beginning of [the third wave] now,” said Professor Neil Ferguson, the Imperial epidemiologist dubbed “Professor Lockdown” by the tabloid press.
Ferguson told a media briefing that his latest modelling predicts between 100 and 1,200 deaths a day at the peak of the summer “third wave”, before raising the possibility that restrictions may need to be introduced.
I’m very much hoping we won’t need to reverse course [on the easing of restrictions] – and I suspect we won’t. We will inevitably see cases and hospitalisations rise. But the key is [how] manageable the level is.
Chief Medical Officer Chris Whitty gave a similar warning.
Speaking to the NHS Confederation, the Chief Medical Officer for England said that the current upsurge in cases of the Delta variant first identified in India will “definitely” translate into further hospitalisations and deaths.
And he added: “My expectation is that we will get a further winter surge – late autumn-winter surge.
“And that’s because we know that winter and autumn favour respiratory viruses, and therefore it would be very surprising if this particularly highly transmissible virus was not also favoured. So we’ll get the current wave – an exit wave – then I do think most people think that there will be further problems over the winter.
“How big they will be I think is uncertain. That partly depends on [whether] we get any variants that can evade vaccines better, and on how the current wave passes through the UK. …
“We have to just be aware that Covid has not thrown its last surprise at us.”
SAGE’s latest official advice to the Government has been published, projecting a “summer wave” that is comparable to the spring 2020 wave. It writes: “Under most scenarios, this summer wave would be smaller than the January 2021 wave, in terms of hospitalisations and deaths, but comparable to the April or October 2020 waves.” (SAGE here seems to be unaware that it was only testing that made the January surge seem larger than the spring.)
The latest data from Imperial’s REACT study, covering the period May 20th to June 7th, was also published yesterday, showing infections are “rising exponentially” and “doubling every 11 days“.
These alarmist projections are faltering already, however. The more up-to-date data from the ZOE Covid Study App shows the ripple is already flattening, as Sarah Knapton reports in the Telegraph.
The recent Covid spike is already beginning to flatten, latest data show, as experts said Britain was experiencing a “mini wave” which was likely to peak within two weeks.
Latest data from the King’s College ZOE symptom tracker app, which monitors community prevalence, show cases in unvaccinated people rose by just 28% up to June 12th, compared to 114% the previous week.
Professor Tim Spector, lead scientist on the app and Professor of Genetic Epidemiology at King’s College, said it looked as if cases would peak within a fortnight.
The good news is that this isn’t going up as fast as it was. This has been a much better week than it was last week. I think we can start to see an end to this little mini wave in the young and the extra time we’ve got should be able to squash this from getting out of control.
Rates in the North West of the country and Scotland are still going up but you can definitely see signs they are starting to level off. Rates in London look like they are starting to slow down.
If we look at the way past waves have come and gone I would be predicting that this should be peaking around 10 to 14 days time and then start to fall, so by four weeks we are at a much lower level than we are now, and much more manageable.
I think this suggests that this should be the end of this summer wave, it doesn’t mean there won’t be other waves outbreaks.
Positive tests in Blackburn – a Delta variant hotspot – have also begun to decline.
Here are some charts from the latest ZOE report showing the slowing rate of increase.
The difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated infection rates here is striking. However, caution is needed in assuming it is all a result of the vaccines working as it is mostly older people who are vaccinated and older people have experienced a lower infection rate throughout the pandemic. Here’s the latest ZOE breakdown by age, with a clear dominance of the 20-29 age group.
Here’s the age breakdown for the winter surge.
And here’s autumn.
The patterns are very similar in each, with the over 60s consistently low and the 20-40s consistently higher. It’s therefore hard to tell without more detailed breakdown within age groups how much of the current difference is down to vaccines. I’ve contacted ZOE to see if they can provide more detail on this and will report anything I receive.
Last week the models of doom were wheeled out to predict imminent catastrophe, with even a four-week delay to reopening said to do little to mitigate it. Well, now it looks like all these forecasts are once again wrong. In these circumstances, how long can SAGE’s reign of error continue? How long will Boris continue to be taken in by these latter-day Rasputins?
The discontent within the ranks of Tory MPs is reportedly considerable – far bigger than Wednesday’s Commons rebellion of 49 MPs might have you believe. In the Spectator, Katy Balls writes that the anger over this latest SAGE coup extends beyond the “usual suspects” to include senior Government ministers, one of whom told her that “few” members of the Government actually support a delay but consider that it’s “not up to” them.
Ever since the first lockdown, there has been grumbling from Tory backbenchers, often to little avail. The frequency with which members of the party’s Covid Recovery Group object means that their complaints are not taken particularly seriously. This time, however, the Whips have been struck by how many party loyalists and members on the payroll have been in touch to let their unhappiness be known. “Everyone is seething,” says one member of the 2019 intake. “It’s not just the usual suspects this time.”
While cabinet collective responsibility is broadly holding, there are hints of slippage. “I don’t support a delay. Few of us do,” says a senior minister. “But it’s not up to me.”
The worry is that once the end of lockdown has been delayed, it is easier to do it again. The SAGE documents suggest that in a few weeks’ time the number of hospitalisations will be nearing its peak. “If the number of cases and hospitalisations are worse, does Boris really have the nerve to unlock then?” asks one Tory MP.
But if the prophesied deluge turns out to be a mere ripple – as increasingly looks to be the case – what then? Will the Government finally, under pressure from its MPs, kick its bad habit of listening only to a very select group of scientific advisers, all of whom are heavily invested in a particular narrative? We can but hope.
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Chris Whitty is a visual emetic
what’s emetic with him
Could they please just stop this farce and let us .. Get On With Our Bloody Lives!..
“Said it was possible strict lockdown curbs would have to [be]v reintroduced”
Never had to be introduced in the first place for what amounted to a bad flu season. Done sod all good, caused untold misery. Pantsdown and co can do one.
Oh and when are these crooks going to give us a running total of deaths within 28 days of a “vaccine”?
And can we have dr Yeadon as chief medical officer by any chance?
And will anybody ever talk about naturally-acquired immunity after recovery from covid? The silence is deafening. So, following the fool Boris’s lead, people are getting vaccinated, and in many cases, ill, when they in fact have acquired far better immunity from having the virus and have no need whatsoever of the vaccine.
T-cell immunity has not been mentioned since the beginning of this ‘pandemic’, deliberately, I’m sure, since this protection lasts for decades, possibly for life, even against the ‘variants’; they lie sleeping in the bone marrow and if the virus reappears, spring to life and cause billions of new antibodies to be made.
I told all this to my GP when declining the vaccine, and she just nodded and said “fair enough”. I haven’t been bothered since.
Apart from everything else, it feels good not to have contributed to Bill Gates’ etc., obscenely-swollen pension funds.
Immune systems are not profitable. They need to be desroyed and replaced by endless vaccinations. Which are probably responsible for the destruction.
I’m waiting to see what happens to the vaccinated when winter comes, I suspect it will not be pretty.
This is why they want a social credit system. They know there aren’t enough police to stop people moving around, but they could easily, for example, restrict the ability to purchase petrol, or track movements on foot, bicycle etc if we are all forced to sign up to a surveillance system.
A pandemic is either two waves or two years.
The “pandemic” is OVER.
None of this is now anything resembling reality. This is now purely and simply about stabbing as many gullible desperate people as possible.
None of these idiots have any credibility. Stop reporting their mouthbreathing utterances as anything important. Either they are incredibly stupid or they mean to kill as many people as possible.
Either way they must be disposed of, either humanely or violently.
Well, strictly speaking the goals are to:
1) Pay off their cronies for the “vaccines”, and have the slush flow back to them.
2) Get us on to the social credit score apps (“vaccine passports”)
Actually administering the “vaccines” is neither here nor there in their considerations.
Not just credit score apps, but vehicles to administer future contraceptives, especially in places like Africa, to “reduce climate change and save the planet”.
Jesus F*****g Christ, will you not drive these psychos out of their squalid offices and regain your parliamentary democracy? Asking as a heartbroken American who has loved collaborating with my UK friends and would like to do so again.
Agree with the sentiment but the blasphemy is unnecessary.
What’s ‘blasphemy’?
‘the action or offence of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things; profane talk’.
The art of pissing off religious people by referring to their particular imaginary friend in a derogatory manner.
In the case of Muslims, you can also upset them by insulting the founder of their religion.
Saying something ‘naughty’ on Lockdown Sceptics
Thank you for saying that. I absolutely cringe when I hear language like this. It is very offensive to many but especially Christians and I know it isn’t fashionable but please lets have some respect.
Did you intend to type SAGE’s reign of terror (rather than error)? The comparison with Rasputin was wise.
I don’t get it. Neil Ferguson was utterly discredited, really before we had ever heard of SAGE and certainly by this time last year. Why on earth is anyone still listening to/reporting what he has to say? And, of course, by now the entire SAGE establishment has been so discredited, suffered so much reputational damage, that the same question applies to them. I wouldn’t believe Chris Witty anymore if he told me the sun would rise in the east tomorrow. I honestly don’t understand why these people aren’t booed off the public stage. Of course, I understand that they are trying to prolong their day in the sun, trying to make themselves seem indispensable, relishing their fame and reluctant to return to the utter obscurity of academic/bureaucratic life. That doesn’t mean we should indulge them. And it certainly doesn’t mean we should believe them.
The problem is the sheep who just barely bleat.
Last October’s Halloween “presentation” by Whitty and Vallance should haave informed the public that they either do not know what they are doing (unlikely) and are incompetent or they work towards a more malign purpose, causing damage to the country.
This week’s “presentation” is a continuation for them of what they have peddled for a long time.
More do see it but the sheep will not even ditch masks; hardly a great step to take but one which would give a visible message to HMG and the rest of the public.
The damage these people have done to us all is immense.
‘Immense’ doesn’t even start to cover it. Unless people refuse to obey, we will end up under permanent totalitarian control.
We may already be past the point of no return.
Nothing will make the stupid masses question or doubt the criminals and the tyranny. Prepare yourselves for many years of darkness.
It should be obvious to all by now that every branch of the MSM is controlled by the Deep State or a branch of the security services. Ferguson, like the rest of the modeller misfits are still useful to push Deep State aims.
But why is Boris still listening to them? Can you imagine if Maggie was PM today? For sure, Dennis would not be interfering – PMs’ spouses remained in the background being supportive, as and where they should be. Nobody voted for Carrie, nor for the communists in SAGE.
“Can you imagine if Maggie was PM today?”
Sort of Devil and Deep Blue Sea scenario
“PMs’ spouses remained in the background being supportive”
Dream on.
Bozo is under orders – end of.
…”booed off the public stage”
These people – Whitty, Ferguson, et al are inflicted on us. Do not aggrandise them with their fake positions of unelected authority. If they ever appeared in an LS forum they would be praying after one minute and swinging after three.
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“Cases” alone are utterly irrelevant.
No mention of deaths (effectively none).
No mention of hospital discharges vs admissions (Planet Normal was good on this this week – young people tend to be discharged swiftly).
No mention of increase in testing by age group (not sure if this is a factor but should be considered).
No challenging of the “fact” that strangling certain small businesses & destroying joy for a few more weeks will make the blindest bit of difference to viral circulation.
Come on chaps. This is rubbish from top to bottom.
Ferguson IS NOT A F@CKING Epidemiologyst. He has NO medical qualifications what so ever. He is a physicist!!! Lazy journalism!!
Hes a feckin wanker
No he’s got a bit on the side for that
Spreadsheet soothsayer with a dismal record of predictions of his COVID horoscope.
What Ferguson isn’t is not relevant.
You don’t need to be an epidemiologist or virologist to get a grip on the fundamental issues, or construct a model that works. That requires different skills – and you will note that specialists in highly technical areas have been just as useless in showing those skills.
Ferguson just heads up a useless modelling group, and is employed only for his ability to come up with politically-inspired crap data.
Well, said. Unfortunately the sheeple out there will read the article and take it as read that he knows what he is talking about; he quite clearly doesn’t. The level of journalism in this country is shocking. Who cares about the truth when you can make money through click bait articles and headlines.
Not wholly accurate. He is under Gates of Hell’s direct control and is passing orders to Bozo.
It should by now be dawning on even the most naive of commentators that Western political leaders are no longer “following the science – if ever they were. Clearly, Boris and his “experts” will say and do almost anything, no matter how illogical, to keep the tired old pandemic milch cow lumbering along, regardless of the cost in wasted lives, a trashed economy and trampled human rights.
Facts are twisted, figures juggled and hyperbole hits new heights to make us roll up our sleeves for experimental injections which are already killing and injuring human guinea pigs in historically unprecedented numbers.
Meanwhile, inexpensive proven safe alternative treatments such as fluvoxamine and ivermectin (used to halt COVID in its tracks in “hot-spots” across Mexico, India and Peru) are cold-shouldered by the medical hierarchy and their political cronies.
“Follow the science”? Do me a favour! Try following the power and money instead.
If you put Corbyn and Thatcher into a room. Would you report their pontificating as “The Politics” ? Of course not. So where did Johnson and his bitches get “The Science” from ? Look at Michie and Dingwall. Same committee. Disagree on a lot of things. Ludicrous all of it.
So cases are rising dramatically in the age group currently being vaccinated. Are the vaccinated still considered “unvaccinated” until 14 days post vaccination? With the increased susceptibility to covid infection 4 to 9 days post vaccination, the current spike may be 20 to 29 year olds contracting covid after their 1st vaccine.
It’s a cold
SAGE are a dangerous group who have approached the response to this pandemic with a far too narrow framing of what public health and wellbeing actually is and what the best ‘science’ is. This appears to have been compounded by an ideological groupthink and, quite possibly, the influence of private interests. Under such circumstances, members of such a group will rarely see and accept this problem when it is pointed out to them, so don’t expect a whole lot of self-reflection and change any time soon.
I can accept that the members of SAGE come from a good place (most of them anyway) insofar as they have a desire to do good. However, my sense is that unless and until there is a significant change to the leadership and membership of this group, their message and overall approach will not change.
The change that is needed is that the whole group must be disbanded. Their utterances are influenced by just a small number of gobby idiots (e.g. Ferguson & Michie) who are enjoying seeing their faces on TV and who shout down any voices of reason (if there are any in that group) through force of personality – linked to their self publicity.
Further, it’s not helped by a scientifically illiterate Prime Minister, with his mind firmly focused on his new bride and her wacky beliefs; a vapid Health Secretary who couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery and a Cabinet Secretary who is using the whole mess to position himself to knife the Prime Minister in his back – again!
They’re all grubby, venal arseholes.
Couldn’t have put it better.
I am afraid that it is beyond reasonable doubt that Boris knows about the ultimate purpose and has joined the gang.
He sees the way the world is going and the money is flowing.
Exactly.
Agreed but, the changes that are needed are the complete removal of the world’s governments, all global ‘health’ institutions, all global institutions, all central banks, all media, all tech, and every other complicit organisation or company.
We’re gonna need a bigger boat and a tens of millions of peeps willing to die on the hill for their kids.
This is the reality.
This ain’t going away with a reshuffle. I doubt it’s going away with a much welcomed Nuremberg 2. There’s an unpalatable inevitability about how this train is stopped.
On the bright side, the world will be a better place.
It’s us that need to build back better, not them.
Spot on.
Rubbish.
They have all been bought.
Stop looking for excuses and take credit for seeing through the BS.
I’m not sure we can fully accept that the members of SAGE ‘come from a good place’. We don’t even know the full list of members, but I did see an article once that pointed to the various alleged memberships that known members currently have or have had in the past, including; CND, Greenpeace, the Labour Party and various pro-EU lobby groups. We all know about Susan Michie, but the rest of SAGE have not been exposed publicly.
Many sceptics quite rightly question the backgrounds of the members of SAGE in terms of their universities and the funding that they’ve received. But I am yet to see a real, open enquiry into the political bias of it’s members. It is not insignificant. As much Michie will protest her innocence, these people are clearly not offering sound, unbiased advice if they come from extreme ends of the political spectrum. People are defined by their politics.
No they don’t come from a good place – far to many have connections to Gates who wants to jab the world – funny how since the Epstein links came out he’s become low profile
and the other link is The World Economic Forum which Hancock has been sucking up to for years
I guess what I was trying to say is that the members of SAGE are unlikely to be thinking that they are doing bad things inasmuch that they think they are working for the greater good, albeit that there are an acceptable level of harms along the way. The road to hell, etc.
However, I may well be wrong. I accept the possibility (although I don’t agree) that they are just bad actors motivated less by doing good than achieving their own ends and damn the consequences. A part of me wishes they were just bad people who have been ‘got at’ by big pharma, Gates, etc. because they would probably be easier to bring down because their sins will eventually find them out, so to speak. But, it is the fact that they are not that will make that job harder. This is not to say that they are not compromised in some way just by having outside interests, but the extent to which that might be the case is very difficult to gauge. I do not think they are going anywhere whilst Johnson is in charge because I’m sure they would turn on him the moment he seeks to silence them. Having said that, the promises of peerages, etc. and a reciprocal agreement not to badmouth each other might buy each other’s silence.
They are utilitarians who undoubtedly believe that what they are doing has a good purpose in their own minds. They clearly believe that lying is good, and that they don’t need to tell the masses what the purpose is. And they clearly, in a very utilitarian manner, believe that risking, allowing or even causing deaths in large quantities is good because of their purpose.
Just don’t assume that your idea of good is the same as theirs.
Rubbish.
SAGE has been bought.
That’s IT.
Dont quote Ferguson, hes no professor- the man is a total wanker and a fraud.
As as friend of mine delightfully used to say “the best part of him dribbled down his mother’s leg”.
I wont be obeying this bunch of psychopaths to any degree. Time to end this nonsense once and for all. Dont comply……
Pantsdown’s order-of-magnitude-sized wild guess will, once again, be an order of magnitude too high.
The only thing of which we can be certain is that his deranged doom-preaching will once again have zero consequences for him.
Unless of course the injections are intended to kill, as many of us here believe, in which case Pantsdown will be ecstatic at possibly having made his first ever correct prediction.
Come on, how is that a prediction? That’s basically a range from “nobody dying of covid” to “everyone who dies will be dying of covid”.
and who are these people going to be anyway given all the sheep have been dipped?
It’s the classic undergraduate science / engineering student trick when writing a lab report and finding they have messed up the experiment. First draw the line on the graph for the answer you want. Now plot the experimental data (random scatter) which won’t fit the required line. To fix the problem simply select error bars for the data that are long enough to overlap the drawn line – presto – you can get the answer desired. There is one slight down side. This technique virtually guarantees the assignment will fail and the student will have to do it all over again.
Gove who has been described as Mendacious by Cameron, and he should know a liar if anyone does, has confirmed July 19th as Freedom Day
The voters of Chesham and Amersham certainly sent Johnson and his CON government a message but is Johnson complex enough to understand it ?
The voters of Chesham & Amersham simply deserted the Tories for the Liberal Democrats – whatever they voted for, it certainly wasn’t against SAGE or lockdown. The Liberal Democrat MPs voted with the Government and Labour.
These fucking clowns, everytime they emerge whatever was happening has already happened.
Time to lockdown past the peak no. 4?!?
When can we start the hangings?
Are the Co-vid coated scales finally dropping from Simpson ministers’ eyes? SAGE must be given the boot. This boll*cks cannot be allowed to continue!
Simpson??? Are fact-checkers screwing with my predictive text too!?
Whitty by name. Whittle by nature.
Surely these graphs can’t be true! The over 60+ are raging out of control…oh wait, they are flatlining…never mind the facts, quick get all the care workers vaxxed immediately, the walking postules of disease!
Maybe last night’s defeat for the Conservatives will now concentrate a few minds and ditch doom-mongers like Whitty, Vallance and Ferguson?
They only switched from Tory to Liberal Democrat – both parties voted for another four weeks of misery and doom.
Indeed. But these creatures lust power, and when the power source is threatened they react, particularly the Conservatives.
I think the Lib Dems abstained. But yeah, they are total lockdown loonies too. They all are.
They abstained on the first division, and then voted for the government on the second.
I don’t think so. This was the ‘Nim-By-Election’. The Lib Dem candidate stood on a pledge to fight HS2 and large house building projects in the constituency. Any Covid aggrievances or Remain sympathies amongst the voters are pure conjecture.
It’ll be the same all over the South East for the Tories, when I was more involved in the Party I was warning them for ages that their ‘traditional’ voters won’t buy into development projects because so many of them are NIMBY’s. Countless meetings I attended were chock full of irritated pensioners who didn’t want their views spoilt by major planning decisions for the area. The selfishness of that particular generation is astonishing; it’s why many have backed the lockdowns so fervently. They simply do not care for younger generations, they don’t want to give them a chance in life (affordable housing, more schools etc) and they sit at home on their pensions and investments whilst the rest of the economy burns to a cinder.
The Tory candidate, Peter Fleet, ‘opposed’ HS2, but seemed to have given up already. He said that all the main parties in Westminster supported HS2, and many local voters must have known that Peter Fleet had been working for the car industry most of his life.
True, the Tories only suffered a few losses in the local elections in Buckinghamshire in May – perhaps not indicative enough to reveal the convictions of the people of the county, as I believe the turnout was even lower. But I wouldn’t underestimate NIMBYism, it was always fervent on the doorsteps when I was out and about.
You won’t get affordable housing by building more houses! You can only do that by a. restricting lending, b. reducing immigration and c. building social rented housing.
I’d like to see that formula explained in more detail.
You must be joking!
Unlikely.
Pantsdown, Whitless and Unbalanced owe their positions to Gates, WEF et al and so their removal is not within Bozo’s remit.
Wave. Wave. Wave. Wave. Almost like you cannot actually stop the sea…..
The story of King Canute.
The under-30s who have had the disease *should not* get jabbed.
It makes side effects more likely, according to Emeritus Professor Beda Stadler. See recent interview with Ivor Cummins.
I’d trust him over Whitty & Vallance any day.
The under-30s should NOT get jabbed, period!
Any normal country would already have executed these people
It says something for the crisis we are in that your is a completely sane comment.
These people are demonstrably SCIENTIFIC FRAUDS as evidenced by real-life data. They are demonstrably COMPROMISED by Gates and Big Pharma money. They are demonstrably a bunch of WEIRDOS, as revealed by their behavious over the past year.
STOP listening to them!
1918-1919 Spanish flu epidemic
1957-1958 Influenza epeidemic
1968-1969 Honk Kong flu epidemic.
2019-2030 Covid-19 (Net Zero Carbon 2030)
So….. the other respiratory viruses mentioned above blew through and disappeared over one year without vaccines or lockdowns. Yet lockdowns and vaccines seem only to delay the disappearance of Covid-19. This is a scientific abnormality, so how can we explain this oddity?
That’s easy: If the threat disappears, government control disappears. So the threat must never disappear.
As Reiner Fuellmich has so astutely noted, vaccines weren’t invented for the virus, the virus was invented for the vaccines.
Vaccines bring with them vaccine passports which will in turn bring Digital ID, which will in turn bring a Chinese Communist style dictatorship based on Social Credits.
‘Ferguson told a media briefing that his latest modelling predicts between 100 and 1,200 deaths a day at the peak of the summer “third wave” ‘
If I made such imprecise measurements or predictions in my job people would actually die. I would probably be fired before it came to that because it would be quite obvious that the work I was doing was useless and dangerous.
What is the point of models that predict such a pointlessly broad range of scenarios? Oh yeah… none. Well, no ‘public health’ point anyway.
According to Worldometers, the 7-day rolling average peaked at 943 deaths per day in the “first” wave and 1241 in the “second wave”. So a prediction of between 100 and 1200 deaths is effectively “anything from zero to as bad as the last wave”. In other words, 100% useless.
Five thousand years ago Fergie would have been a witch doctor demanding human sacrifices at stonehenge to improve the harvest. When the harvest didn’t improve he’d say it was because the sacrifices weren’t pure enough, or something.
it the Conservative and U-turn party MPs are so discontented, why do most continue to vote for this stuff? Why haven’t they lodged their letters of no confidence with the 22 committee?
Party greasy pole climbing.
Because these people always put party before country. Always have, always will.
Great new euphemism coined by Will here: “heavily invested in a particular narrative” = lying.
Yep.
That’s a cracker.
Sir Charles wheeler hit the nail on the head about these celeb advisers.
They should be forced to declare their earnings their other areas of income and significant shares etc. And then either advise or be a celeb but not both
These people are liars and manipulative psychopaths who need to be locked up and not listened to.
I’m in the middle of watching “Clarkson’s Farm” on Amazon Prime. (Quite entertaining, and vastly instructive as to how much highly skilled hard work farming is. As long as you understand Jeremy Clarkson’s particular schtick…)
Midway through the series, set in early 2020, Covid-19 hits. And it’s quite striking how utterly wrong most of the Government “advice” was back then. Clarkson glares angrily at a cyclist riding (alone) along as country lane as if he was watching a mass-murderer or paedophile. Clarkson himself is convinced he is doomed.
Fast forward fifteen months, and the British Government is continuing its campaign of self-righteous idiocy. We’ve all lost a year and a half of our lives, millions of jobs and tens of thousands of businesses have been ruined. Millions more young people have had their educations and careers and social lives destroyed.
But keep on crying “Wolf!” Fergusson, Whitty and the rest of the Confederacy of Dunces.
Can anyone provide proper evidence of Matt Hancock saying that the NHS should deny treatment to ‘anti-vaxxers’?
It seems abundantly clear here:
https://off-guardian.org/2021/06/17/matt-hancock-hints-nhs-has-a-decreased-duty-of-care-for-anti-vaxxers/
“the duty that we have, when somebody has not been offered the vaccine, is greater than the duty we have when we have offered a vaccine but somebody has chosen not to take it up.”
He is not saying that in such blunt terms.
It’s the fact that he feels emboldened enough to float such an idea. In more civilised times, he would have been howled down.
He said something similar in Parliament
To add fuel to the fire, the EU announces today air corridors to USA now open. Oh dear, the UK lies are piling up fast and furious. How will they ever get out from under the stack of bs they have created? Remember when the Uk was part of the EU? Just think, you were that close to travelling to the USA. Enjoy your summer holidays in hell, I mean The UK.
Given that the EU intends to squeeze and humiliate Britain as much as possible, if it manages to open up and stay open, whilst we endure hardships under the Fat Pig Dictator, then it’s a win-win situation for them.
These are very interesting graphs. So the young test positively much more than the old, even pre vaccination.
Is that partly because the older, the more likely to have picked up immunity from some old Covid variant?
Is this also how flu might operate, ie, silently moving among the young in summer, giving them immunity against the coming winter? What a wonderful system natural immunity is.
I wonder whether the oldest figure takes into account the drop in that population?
I think that we have now seen the most egregious illustration of this evil.
Even if there was something of a crisis, all plans re. the management of an emergency emphasize the need to ratchet down any panic in the population.
Johnnson and his sociopathic sidekicks in fakery have done the exact opposite – ramping up fear with lies when there is absolutely no evidence of a crisis.
This speaks louder than any detail as to the artificial political nature of the ‘crisis’.
Very good point. As one post-apocalyptic writer wrote (I think it was John Wyndham), ‘the time to be worried is when there’s only good news in the papers.’
As SARS-CoV2 declines, there’s a ‘wave’ of respiratory viruses re-emerging – https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/952991#vp_1
(paywalled, I suspect).
This will be used to justify masks and distancing for ever, and will also be conflated with Covid in the public’s mind. One of the comments below the article (comments are restricted to medical professionals) is good and copied in full below:
“The best explanation for the disappearance of many viruses including influenza, rsv, adenovirus and parainfluenza is viral interference. In other words, covid outcompeted or interfered with these other viruses. This is a known phenomenon for centuries. How can we know it wasn’t the masks or social distancing? It occurred before masks/lockdowns were widely used (the other viruses dropped off in March when covid became dominant) and countries that did not have lockdowns/used masks did not see the flu much either.
Here’s some articles that explain better:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/a-viral-mystery-does-one-infection-prevent-another/ar-BB1cZeRx
“The idea that viruses might interfere with each other is old — as old as vaccination. Edward Jenner, the English doctor who helped develop the practice of inoculating against smallpox in the 18th century, noticed it. Inoculation involved infecting a person with the milder cowpox virus. But if the patient had herpes, then it did not work as well. It was as if having two active infections at once altered how the immune system responded.
Over the next two centuries, scientists reported more and more situations in which it was clear that infections didn’t operate in a vacuum. One 1950 review article even called it a “well-known fact” that having one virus could inhibit the growth of another.”
“Viral infections may actually protect people from other viral infections — or bacterial infections — by stimulating immune responses…one virus may actually stimulate the innate immunity.”
To model what might have been happening during the swine flu pandemic, the researchers grew human airway tissue in the lab and infected it with rhinovirus. Then, three days later, they gave it the H1N1 flu. They were intrigued to see that the flu virus just fizzled out, and they determined that the rhinovirus had switched on a number of genes that produce innate immune proteins.
https://academic.oup.com/jid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/infdis/jiab147/6179975
“Virus-virus interactions influence the epidemiology of respiratory infections…We show that human rhinovirus triggers an interferon response that blocks SARS-CoV-2 replication.”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/778995/
Viral interference is a phenomenon for which a cell infected by a virus becomes resistant toward a second outcoming infection by a superinfectant virus
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25943206/
This article discusses an experiment of trying to infect a ferret with two separate viruses. There is a period when one is impervious to infection from a competing virus.
Finally, if masks and mitigation factors were going to work, why didn’t they work for covid? Covid moved just like any other viral aerosolized virus that follows geographic and seasonal trends.”
The ONS figures speak for themselves, we don’t need these dodgy people speculating/lying any longer
Who gives a toss what the “case” count is. So, lots of younger people are testing positive? Well, good. They will add to the herd immunity.
The metric has always been stated as “hospitalisations and deaths”. Those are back in the Summer lows.
Lift ALL restrictions NOW. There will never be a “better” time.
Al of this reminds me of the F&M extremes with Blair and Ferguson. Same people, same hysteria and extremes, time they disappeared
The NHS has been complicit with the whole covid scam… keeping us locked down.. even killing people..
I now carry a card in my wallet that states:
I have zero faith in the national health service aka the covid health service. In the event of an accident or illness I do not consent to NHS treatment or hospital admission. You are instructed to leave me alone.
Just a thought – as the Police these days are paragons of virtue and abhor Hate Speech, could Matt Hancock’s hate speech directed at those people who don’t want to be injected with an experimental (so-called) ‘vaccine’ be reported to the Police?
https://www.report-it.org.uk/your_police_force
Yes indeed it could.
Good point.
Just proves all the more that those in power do not want to end this madness. Proves all the more that those so called experts and so called leaders LIED when they said COVID Vaccines would return things to normal. Variants of virus were known before Vaccines started rolling out. This Delta Variant was known since October I read elsewhere. As soon as Vaccines started rolling out, on and on and on the news media outlets kept harping on about these so called variants. The so called Delta Variant was not mentioned on and on until a month ago or so. Around 60% of people in UK are fully vaccinated yet these so called experts in SAGE keep pushing all this BS with threats of lockdowns come fall and winter and if cases go up again! All those so called experts only care about power and control here and do not want this to end I feel. I think it is time people take matters into their own hands reliving their lives fully again tuning out these so called experts and those in power. And I also feel all of us worldwide should travel freely ourselves ignoring all those in power refusing to take the COVID tests and refusing to quarantine as well with all of us worldwide moving on with our lives beyond COVID.
All Jobcentre staff are being tested twice a week.
Carers? I don’t know but I will find out.
NHS? Well certainly once a week for front line.
Teachers twice a week.
So case numbers are coming from a captive audience and not perhaps from the general public.
Casedemic proven.