The latest Public Health England (PHE) weekly vaccine surveillance report appeared on Thursday (another one is due tomorrow).
I wasn’t holding out high hopes for this instalment, after digging down into the method used the previous week and finding it didn’t control adequately for background incidence (so confounded vaccine effectiveness with natural decline) and applied such brutal adjustments it could turn a 4% effectiveness into a 73% one. It lived down to expectations.
The authors appear still to be working out what exactly their reports are for as each of the three to date presents different information in a slightly different way. While the first was largely a summary of evidence published elsewhere, the second served more as a showcase for PHE’s latest study and focused on effectiveness against symptomatic disease in the over-65s (90%, supposedly). This week, the over-65s are gone and the focus is on effectiveness against the Indian variant. This makes reading the reports quite confusing, as each doesn’t feel so much like an update to the previous one as a stand-alone report on a separate topic.
In between Report 2 (for week 20) and Report 3, a separate PHE study was published on the Indian Delta variant which found the effectiveness of full vaccination against symptomatic Covid reduced from 93% to 88% with Pfizer and 66% to 60% with AstraZeneca when the Indian Delta variant was involved versus the British Alpha variant.
As I noted last week, this 66% effectiveness of AstraZeneca (against the British Alpha variant) was a long way below the 90% in the over-65s claimed in Report 2. It’s probably a sign of how low my opinion is of PHE vaccine studies that I was pleasantly surprised to see this discrepancy actually make an impact on the data presented in Report 3, and you can see below in the AstraZeneca two-doses box (top right) week 20’s “85-90%” has become “65% to 90%” in week 21. There is still no explanation from PHE, however, as to why one of their studies finds AstraZeneca 90% effective against symptomatic infection in the over-65s while another finds it is just 66% effective in all ages. Is this not the kind of discrepancy that should occasion comment from the authors?
Another moment where full transparency seems to be lacking is in the section about the Indian Delta variant, where rather than presenting the figures for each vaccine separately the authors combine the data for the two vaccines to give 81% overall effectiveness against the new variant.
This seems a strange decision given that this breaks down to 88% for Pfizer and 60% for AstraZeneca, making Pfizer almost 50% more effective than AstraZeneca against the Indian Delta variant. Was this done to spare AstraZeneca’s blushes? Certainly there’s no sign of PHE drawing attention to this disappointing AZ data. We might wonder though: is part of what is driving the recent fear-mongering from SAGE scientists a worry that the Oxford “workhorse” vaccine is not up to the job, particularly in the most vulnerable?
Another oddity is that the report states that “by May 23rd 2021, the overall vaccine uptake in England for dose 1 was 51.3% and 31.4% for dose 2”. Yet the Government dashboard shows 72% of the adult population had one dose and 42% had two doses by that date. The reason? The report is counting children in the unvaccinated population, but without noting this fact.
Overall my feeling is that these reports have been of limited usefulness (so far), and manage to confuse as often as they clarify. What we really need from PHE are studies which control properly for background incidence so we can get a proper picture of how effective the vaccines actually are, including in the frail elderly where many of the deaths are concentrated. We are also waiting for a proper analysis of the post-vaccination infection spike, rather than half-baked attempts to explain it away, and are long overdue studies that include analysis of safety and not just efficacy. Will PHE step up to the plate?
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If I make a sandwich board, like the chap who used to walk up and down Oxford Street, and wander about shouting “The end is nigh”, will I be as qualified as Whitty apparently is, for a knighthood? He’s the Bodkin Adams of our times, but perhaps not as good-looking.
A PhD qualification is supposed to train the participant in critical thinking. Not sure what happened with this shower of shit
Carrots and sticks.
If Chris Whitty ever had any original thoughts, that was probably long before he finished his first bachelor’s degree. There’s no way he’d have had the guts to have any while he was doing his DSc.
Was his dad in MI6? His father was a British Council officer who was posted to various countries including Nigeria and Malawi. He was cultural attaché in Greece when he was knocked off by the Fatah Revolutionary Council apparently. I wonder what they had against him.
His mum’s brother Christopher MacRae looks like a strong MI6 possible too. Another Africa hand.
It was in Africa that Chris Whitty got a big grant from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
The January-peak this year was caused by the alpha- or Kent-variant. Like its successor omicron, the delta (Indian) variant was a statistics-only event causing a huge peak in positive test results of healthy pupils before the summer holidays.
The masters of COVID testing have presumably gotten their act together somewhat better now, hence, a huge, spontaneous decline of positive test results because pupils were pulled out of the machinery hasn’t happened since.
COVID has been running on bullshit and waiting for a deus ex machine to come to the rescue since the Kent-peak went away in January. Certainly entirely coincidentally, mass testing of healthy people for want of sick ones started soon afterwards.
I love a “deus ex machina”, but prefer a Chekhov’s Gun.
They’re something different: Deus ex machina is a plot device where an otherwise insoluble problem is resolved by the unexpected (by the audience) appearance of a saviour. Sort-of, solution — a miracle happens. In the COVID case, this would be the virus (presumably intentionally) misnamed Sars-CoV2 suddenly living up the the reputation of its name and turning into the SARS virus. Hopes for that (in the form of it could happen, couldn’t it?) have already been expressed by the experts months ago.
Please can you explain what you mean when you say that SARSCoV2 was misnamed and also that it turned into SARS, meaningly presumably into what is now called SARSCoV1.
We can be absolutely certain that there has been at least 19 years of research into the biowar use of SARS variants. None of it is public.
Christian Drosten, they guy who invented the COVID PCR test and is thus responsible for much of this entirely avoidable misery is a SARS specialist. He’s on record for stating SARS is back! – presumably with a sigh of relief – when the current awful virus started to make waves.
I think it was intentionally named Sars-CoV2 to conjure up a connection with its distant and much more lethal relative.
Yes indeed! Drosten faked his qualifications – he is a fraud – nothing he says can be believed – he follows the WEF Globalist Reset Agenda not science..
Is it not more accurate to say that Drosten devised the mass testing regime by adapting swab derived RNA to DNA by conversion, then appending cycle threshold amplification to the Kary Mullis PCR testing technology, with software which “determines”, ultimately, what is a “positive” test?…I am not a scientist..evident to some.
How did you escape the gorilla suit? Wondered since I watched the film a few years ago.
Isn’t life at least partially about quality not quantity? I certainly don’t want to live until 90+ in Covid world.
It’s been one of the more obvious points from Day 1 that life (as in breathing) at all costs cannot be the overriding consideration. People seem to have forgotten what it means to be alive. Perhaps they never knew.
Qualified disagreement: Corona politics are about prohibiting other people to do stuff the Corona politicians wouldn’t want to do, anyway, because they believe it’ll prolong their lives.
Nice, recent example: There’s currently an 8pm hospitality curfew in Ireland. The people behind this were originally pushing for a 5pm one. This was shot down because it would stop 9 – 5 office workers from having a few after work. People working other hours obviously matter a lot less.
Well, I guess I was thinking more about how ordinary people have been hoodwinked into being deprived of a quality life. Of course I agree that Corona politicians don’t care about anyone or anything but themselves and their own power.
Little chance of that now!
85% of the UK “vaccinated”?
You’re ‘avin a giraffe.
Just got back from the IMAX at the Science Museum to watch some educational film with my kids
Before it started there was an advert with Whitty bleating on about Omicron and boosters.
Other than the nauseating sight of the ugliest man on the planet looming at you on a screen 4 times higher than a double decker bus what was great was the whole cinema booing.
Gives you a bit of hope.
Honestly, most of the trailers at the cinema deserve to be booed thoroughly now. When they aren’t showing that ghoul’s horrific mug they almost entirely constitute climate change lies and corporate virtue signalling. Good to hear about the booing actually occuring. All of the film’s I have been to see recently had empty auditoriums so there was no point booing. I’m looking forward to triggering some booing when I go to see the Matrix film.
Horror film ?
“what was great was the whole cinema booing”
That’s beautiful! You have made my day!!
Ever since this Covid farce started NHS workers (and many others) have been told to self isolate when it was totally unnecessary.
Just because you test positive doesn’t mean you are infectious.
The whole testing regime needs to be scrapped.
But as it won’t the least the government can do is reduce the testing and be much more nuanced for those that are tested.
No symptoms, carry on working.
Slight sniffle carry on working with a proper mask.
Feeling unwell take a short time off work until you feel better.
Common sense was never this governments strong point.
Slight sniffle carry on working with a proper mask.
Chinese mummery is not effective against respiratory diseases and even it it was, this would be no reason to mandate it. Respiratory diseases are usually harmless for everyone. Possible complications have to be dealt with by the health system, that’s why it exists. People who are afraid of them nevertheless are free to take whatever precautions they deem sensible.
That’s how our society has worked since ever and people who absolutely don’t want to cope with that are hereby impolitely requested to move to or stay in the country of their dreams, namely, China. Force-exporting Chinese cultural backwardness to the rest of the word is not a public health innovation.
I was talking about NHS staff wearing a proper medical N95 mask or equivalent to protect vulnerable patients.
You’re talking about Chinese mummery to protect against respiratory diseases. No amount of just in case COVID-BS is acceptable. If it wasn’t already being done prior to 2020, say, something I know for certain, care home staff being forced to wear FFP2 respirators just in case to protect vulnerable care home residents (whose quality of life is certainly much improved by having to deal with faceless aliens all the time), it’s not needed now.
Every millimeter given way in this direction is a slippery slope towards mask mandates and other restrictions for general public health reasons.
A nurse on critical care with a sniffle wearing a proper medical face mask whilst treating a vulnerable patient is preferable to that highly qualified and valuable nurse taking time off work just because she has a positive test or similar symptoms to a common cold and is well enough to work.
This is a much more limited statement than the Slight sniffle carry on working with a proper mask you originally made. However, I’m not going to address to modified version specially. All already said.
I was clearly referring to “NHS workers” in my original post that’s why I put (and many others) in brackets.
I keep my posts concise for brevity.
Perhaps you should read posts more carefully before you jump in with your knee-jerk reply.
Assuming you are trying to maintain that you’re something other than a guy not so covertly arguing in favour of Corona policies, you should stop climbing the ladder you’re presently on, namely, start with a general statement. When being called out on that, twist that into a much more specific statement. When being called out on that, claim that you didn’t make the general statement and start to become abusive.
You’re not gaining any ground here, just accidentally peeling off your own protective camouflage.
Have you always been an arrogant twat?
He’s spent a long time as also an arsehole.
From what exactly?
I don’t understand your question.
All the billions they spent on one thing and another and they can’t tell if the person is infectious. That should have been a priority imho.
The Drosten PCR test has been a fraud from the start- it cannot identify an infected person – with Covid or anything else.
They wanted to wreck the crumbling NHS and have done an excellent job – they have made a bogus excuse to sack half the staff- would never have got that past the Unions!
I see some Doctors’ surgeries are ‘closed’ again today another case of “Note for Surgery door ‘Please stay away if you feel unwell”?
Should the “Untreated” form a Twitter pressure group?
They still shouldn’t have got it past the unions! NHS staff are joining Workers of Britain.
The Nudge Unit and the Propaganda have worked well
Still ar it – expect another onslaught soon.
Wow this guys quick. Bovid has had a 99.97 percent survival rate in the under 70s from natural immunity from day one. This whole rotten episode is nothing but an over reaction to an engineered deliberate raping of public perception. Its a scam and always has been. Even if the NHS is overwhelmed, its not a valid reason to destroy our lives.
I think they call flu “covid” now, hence the drop. They need the numbers to terrorise well meaning people with so they have to use whatever is available to achieve this. Youre dealing with deceivers and criminals, so to not suspect trickery and fiddling of the details to achieve the desired outcome is naive in the extreme. Hasnt it been established that these bent unvalidated tests cross react with influenza.
That’s right, that age-old principle of health care, treat the symptoms, if there isn’t sufficient capacity, increase it! That’s all that was required.
The problem was politicians & technocrats got involved instead of letting Dr.s & nurses do their jobs.
We used to have “Fever Hospitals” for emergencies and isolation -scrapped in the 1980s-90s
Has there been a SINGLE confirmed omicron death yet?
If anyone’s got a source for one, can they post it please. And since “science” is fashionable at the moment, I’ll add that if you want to say omicron caused something, you have to rule out that delta or “original” was present. (Obviously you also have to rule out a lot of other stuff, but I’ll leave that aside.) What I’m asking for is a reliable reference to a SINGLE DEATH “with omicron”, where the person has tested NEGATIVE for delta and “original”.
Listen. OMICRON DOESN’T CAUSE COVID. Omicron only affects the upper respiratory tract, especially if a person is already chronically ill. I doubt it even touches your lungs. Pneumonia is a lung disease. Pneumonia has to be present for a diagnosis of “Covid”. No, a person hasn’t “got Covid” if they feel a bit under the weather or they’ve got a runny nose. If they think that means they’ve got Covid, they’re a hypochondriac arsehole.
All upper respiratory tract infections, even the common cold, have pneumonia as possible serious complication.
We need an age limit on this question. Over a certain age, I think it’s safe to say any infection could have bumped them off, including a common cold. And of course it’s worth remembering people die from complications of contracting SARS-CoV-2 not of it.
From what I can work out (happy to be corrected) nobody dies from the initial respiratory problems caused by early covid symptoms. Secondary disease becomes more of a vascular issue migrating to other organs and or severe disease is caused by your bodies autoimmune response.
Either way, there’s good evidence to show this can be easily treated with cheap effective, safe pre-existing drugs. People die for two reasons, old age/comorbidity or health care negligence. The latter likely the greater cause of death.
The Great Ivermectin scandal needs more attention
Why would a Health Department concerned with saving lives ban a safe effective and cheap treament for early Covid – and instead smear it with talk of ‘horse dewormers’ fed to the media by the 77?
People died who could have been easily saved. Johnson, Hancock and Javid are all involved in banning this effective treatment to push the vax.
See this ONS data. Comorbidity is the biggest determinant of death with Covid.
Whitty
We don’t know
We don’t know
We don’t know
But we do know it’s going to be bad
The very definition of hysteria
But surely the right question to ask is, was covid ever a serious threat? No i’m not claiming it never existed or even that for the exceptional minority that contracted severe disease & died it wasn’t serious.
We all know there was a complex web of deceit, obfuscation, statistical manipulation & absolute dishonesty during the first “wave”. We also know many who died in April 2020 died from maladministration.
Never let go of the facts from the start this was a psychological operation to sell a pandemic threat to the masses, it was state sponsored terrorism. Never let go of the fact due to criminal conspiracy between politicians & big pharma orchestrated by Gavi & WHO, cheap safe effective medicine could have & should have saved many lives, instead the use of treatments were suppressed by politicians & technocrats in favour of big pharma shareholders.
Never forget the millions, perhaps billions of lives ruined by neoliberal globalist propaganda & NGO censorship!
Next question. How do you isolate a DNA sequence for a virus you have never purified?
Help me understand what you mean by this. “How do you isolate a DNA sequence for a virus you have never purified”?
I’m new to this site and it’s refreshing being able to see comments from people not following the same narrative that’s been vomited out the past two years. However, I am aware of my ignorance so I’m trying to make myself as well-versed about this stuff as possible as I currently know very little.
Read this and see the web of deceit being woven at full velocity, by all levels of the system, from Government to care home worker.
https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/08/29/midazolam-was-used-to-prematurely-end-the-lives-of-thousands-who-you-were-told-had-died-of-covid-19/
“given that over 85% of the U.K. population have now been vaccinated against Covid – rising to 95% among the over-60s – on top of substantial natural immunity generated by infections over the last 12 months.”
If so, why does the latest UKHSA COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report for Week 51 state:
“Vaccine coverage tells us about the proportion of the population that have received 1, 2 and 3 doses of COVID-19 vaccines. By 19 December 2021, the overall vaccine uptake in England for dose 1 was 68.2% and for dose 2 was 62.6%. Overall vaccine uptake in England in people with at least 3 doses was 38.9%. In line with the programme rollout, coverage is highest in the oldest age groups”
“at least 3 doses”
I hadn’t realised some people were already on their 4th, or eve3n fifth, doses.
Some people, perhaps, but not on any large, systematic scale yet, I don’t think. Even Israel – “vaccine”-central – is only just warming up for it:
“An Israeli hospital on Monday began a study to test the safety and effectiveness of a fourth dose of a Covid-19 vaccine, as health officials continued to deliberate over rolling out fourth shots for vulnerable people nationwide.”
Israel begins studying the effectiveness of a 4th vaccine dose.
The orthodox way to handle the phenomenon that the present crop of Sars-CoV2 vaccines neither do what they were never meant to do (prevent transmission) nor what no vaccine can ever accomplish (prevent infections) is inject everyone once more.
This a pretty transparent Pfizer (mostly) revenue boosting scheme (they could develop updated vaccines easily, or so they keep claiming, but why do that when the original product is still selling well?) married with the Corona politics staple The pandemic isn’t over. We need to vaccinate more people! which has been employed since 15 million shots to freedom! were accomplished but they weren’t willing to allow the freedom bit to happen.
From personal experience Omicron is definitely not a serious threat.
My whole family have had it over Xmas.
Worst affected is mid 50s overweight and heart issues, unvaxxed. He’s been rough for 5 days. Headache sore throat, flu like symptoms.
Least affected is 21 unvaxxed and healthy. Sore throat and headache for 48 hours.
The only vaxxed person is 73 and had similar to the 21 year old but added tiredness.
“Everything we do know is bad” (Sir Witless).
Was there any sort of a rationale at all for this claim, or did he just flat out lie?
“Why are taxpayers not permitted to see it”?
Because nationalised services treat the customer with contempt.
And if they saw all the data then the lies would become even more apparent and that would never fo
Put them on SSP …. this will end
Whitty obviously got his Knighthood for saying it was and pleasing his ‘Master”.
Is it time for some fresh faces on the sage gang. It sure seems like it.
To that end and to enable non-experts like myself to assess the data for ourselves, it would be helpful if the NHS could release daily updates on Covid discharges from hospital and details about the length of stay of Covid patients. This information is available and provided to all NHS chief executives in daily email briefings, so why are taxpayers not permitted to see it?
Hear bloody Hear!!! How refreshing to read this! I have been gnashing my teeth over this gap in data for a long time. Admissions data without discharge data giving length of stay data, is meaningless and being used as part of the “scare the shit out of them” agenda.
“…it would be helpful if the NHS could release daily updates on Covid discharges from hospital and details about the length of stay of Covid patients. This information is available and provided to all NHS chief executives in daily email briefings, so why are taxpayers not permitted to see it? If scientists and public health doctors are pressurising the Government to restrict citizens’ right to make their own choices around freedom of movement and association, isn’t there an onus on the NHS to provide all relevant information relating to that advice?”
Indeed it would be helpful. There are huge gaps in what we are allowed to know, ranging from lengths of stay through “with” or “from” to the real positivity of tests. I am still waiting for the answer to my FoI request on lab Ct thresholds for the PCR test – which I made just over a year ago. The failure of “The Science” and/or the Department of Health to engage with informed questioners is appalling.
It would be interesting to have the numbers of staff off due to or with/from covid who have been jabbed, compared to those resistant to the jab, sorry, unjabbed.
Chris Hopson used to be on the board of HMRC when I had the misfortune to be an employee. He is a prime example of one of Mark Higgie’s ‘shonky retreads’.