Government advisers in the U.K. have been out in force in the past week stressing that the unlocking of society will be a “gradual process” (even more gradual than taking four months?) and that face masks and working-from-home may stay after June 21st.
You can certainly see the need for this extreme level of caution. If you look at the states in America that have lifted restrictions then they have suffered extraordinary levels of infection and deaths and are really regretting their “Neanderthal thinking” and quickly getting back to normal. Oh, er, hang on, that’s right – there’s been no new surge at all.
I put this point to a lockdown fanatic friend (yes, we are still on speaking terms) and his response was a feeble “you can’t assume the virus will behave the same in different countries”. Right, well that’s handy, isn’t it? We can’t learn lessons from what happens elsewhere because every country is different. American states might have been able to re-open without suffering hospital overload or mass death (Texas reopened in full at the start of March), but that doesn’t mean we won’t. Better safe than sorry, eh? Happily, lockdown has no downsides so there’s no problem with just carrying on with it indefinitely, just in case…
Another friend, whose father lives in Texas, said his father told him this week: “No one is talking about Covid here. It’s over, life is normal.”
There could of course be another surge of Covid in re-opened states and countries, especially in the autumn or winter. But since Florida and South Dakota (among other states) were open throughout last autumn and winter, we also know there’s nothing to fear about that either, even less so now so many in the population are vaccinated.
But since when did our political leaders and their “scientific” advisers let evidence get in the way of a good lockdown, especially if it preserves for a little longer their reputation, status and power?
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I’ve noticed that every time there’s a rise in
casespositive tests, suddenly it’s okay to compare with Sweden, even if there is no correlation with healthcare. The lockdowners really do like to cherry pick when countries and can be compared.I think you will find there is quite a lot of cherry picking on both sides of the debate – see above.
The imbalance and lack of sense and evidence is heavily in one direction.
Most of the claims of government/Covmaniacs are demonstrably wrong; those of the rationalists have been essentially correct.
We have a year of test data now.
Which bit?
So easy to spot 77 these days. Pathetic.
No. I don’t. Lockdown has been thoroughly tested & evaluated. It has no effect whatsoever on transmission.
You don’t need to look now at cases in one place vs another to inadequately ask the same question again, a question which has been addressed already.
I can’t help noticing that it is OK to compare the experience of US states with European countries when assessing the effect of lockdowns but when it comes to whether Covid is seasonal the US experience is irrelevant.
COVID is seasonal in the USA. It differs across states because their latitude is different. They have similar divergence with flu.
Fundamentally there was no change at all in the speed of infections when compulsion was removed in US states. That shows compulsion has no effect
We have just over one complete year. During that time some states peaked in the spring, some in the summer, most states peaked again January. How is that evidence for seasonality? To put it another way – if that is seasonal what would non-seasonal look like?
Seasonal viruses peak at different times in different places. We’ve known that with flu for generations
That’s completely different from removal of mask compulsion which if they did anything would cause a near immediate alteration in the rate of change.
It didn’t. QED
Many of the states remained in lockdown, which could well have delayed when the virus peaked.
The overall numbers, and trajectory of the virus were mainly unaffected by lockdowns or mask mandates.
LMS2 and Lucan Grey
So – what would non-seasonal look like?
HIV, hepatitis, ebola – all these viruses are non seasonal, as far as I can tell.
Respiratory viruses tend to be seasonal, and have different peak seasons:
https://www.medscape.com/answers/302460-86798/what-are-the-seasonal-patterns-of-rhinoviral-coronaviral-enteroviral-and-adenoviral-upper-respiratory-tract-infections-uris
It’s getting lonely being in the 77th,
How soon can I move to Texas?
Yep: two things one can rely on – death and Texas!
Remember the Alamo.
Much more likely to be shot than to catch C19, you’d have thought; look at the stats.
It’s way past time that the perennially petrified start to bear the cost rather than those with a more mature approach to risk.
Does anyone know how the march went in London today? I’ve only been able to find a small mention that said hundreds attended a kill the bill and antivaccination march. I’m hoping it was more than hundreds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB6fNMZTQmk – Really good job supressing the content, it’s harder to find that a case of the coof in Texas
Thank you
The BBC is reliably silent on it, not even tucked away anywhere…
GB News’ll get the next one if it’s after June 21st once the plebs realise they have been lied to.
Do yo actually think people will show any realisation?
I hope I’m wrong … but …..
Looking at many pictures and a live stream I would have said hundreds of thousands.
It was a massive protest. Also a massive media blockout.
Not 100’s but some say over 100,000
~copied photo from the comment section in the top article~
https://mobile.twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1397985541350735874?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1397988043710152709%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es2_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.americanthinker.com%2Fblog%2F2021%2F05%2Fnumber_of_covid_cases_in_delhi_crashes_after_mass_distribution_of_ivermectin.html
“Cases in Delhi, where Ivermectin was begun on April 20, dropped from 28,395 to just 2,260 on May 22. This represents an astounding 92% drop. Likewise, cases in Uttar Pradesh have dropped from 37,944 on April 24 to 5,964 on May 22 – a decline of 84%. ”
“according to online data, Delhi cases have gone from 24K daily at end of April to 1491 yesterday. Whether it’s due to ivermectin or just down phase of Gompertz curve, it’s huge and gratifying good news that’s mostly unreported in doomcasting media.”
Help, folks! I’ve lost the link to Mabel Cow’s Reddit site.
No, ok now found it again.
Urgent warning about your NHS data
In case you haven’t heard, the Notional Hell Service is giving itself permission to share your confidential data with whomever it pleases. In point of fact, it’s already doing so:
“Regulation 3 of the Health Service (Control of Patient Information) Regulations 2002 (COPI) also allow confidential patient information to be used and shared appropriately and lawfully in a public health emergency. The Secretary of State has issued legal notices under COPI (COPI Notices) requiring NHS Digital, NHS England and Improvement, arm’s-length bodies (such as Public Health England), local authorities, NHS trusts, clinical commissioning groups and GP practices to share confidential patient information to respond to the COVID-19 outbreak. Any information used or shared during the COVID-19 outbreak will be limited to the period of the outbreak unless there is another legal basis to use confidential patient information.”
Note the last clause In particular.
You have until 23 June to opt out of the latest scheme. Look for ‘Type 1 opt out.’ (Sorry, can’t paste links at the moment.)
https://medconfidential.org/how-to-opt-out/
Thanks for reminder. Also this link for children – a few more steps https://medconfidential.org/2021/children/
Do it now!
BBC et al editors meeting..
Ok so to wrap up.. to continue to get government money and Gates’ money.. we don’t mention marches for freedom.. we don’t mention Sweden and we don’t mention Texas or Florida.. or Belarus..
All in agreement say Aye?
Aye. Aye. Ayeeee.. AYE.. aye… clop.
They’re still acting as though lockdown was either proven to slow epidemic spreading or at least that it remains an open question.
It’s neither. It’s definitively not effective. Dozens of peer reviewed journal articles say so.
We even know why not. Transmission almost never occurs unless the source is symptomatic.
Those who are the best sources of infection are most likely the most ill….and least likely to be out & about. Sources of infection were & remain heavily deselected for in the ambulatory population & so community transmission in places affected by lockdown was close to zero.
No wonder lockdown simply destroys the economy & crushes civil society.
Meanwhile, transmission continues in institutions (provided there is any incidence, which there may no longer be,..but you can’t trust the testing, either).
So, discussion about lockdown is wholly misplaced.
Well done, the open states of the USA.
We live in the State of Georgia and, aside from some social distancing being practiced, there really have been few lockdown type restrictions since the end of May 2020. The biggest difference over the last few months has been the gradual return of pre-Covid habits: hand shakes, hugs, sharing a golf cart, dinner parties, cocktail parties, no masks anywhere, etc. Indoor dining is back to 100% although many/most restaurants still offer outside dining (more seats, same overhead). And our Covid numbers have fallen to levels not seen since late March 2020.
But we also understand the problem UK health authorities have: a relative lack of medical facilities. We understand that the UK average for ICU beds is 7.2 beds per 100,000 with London as a concentration area with 21.0 beds per 100,000. Our local county has a population of 290,000 and about 310 ICU beds so our local ratio is 106.9 beds per 100,000. That is a big difference in spare capacity.
With so little capacity to care for the sick, health authorities have to do everything possible to keep people from seeking treatment.
“If they die, that’s life. As long as they die at home, it is not our fault.”