The Great Lockdown Debate
Toby went head-to-head on talkRADIO this week against Christopher Snowdon, the erstwhile sceptic and now lockdown cheerleader with whom Toby has been sparring in recent weeks.
It’s a cracking debate and general opinion is that Toby won hands down – but then we would say that.
Toby says:
I debated Chris Snowdon on talkRADIO on Wednesday. It was a lively but good-humoured exchange chaired by Mike Graham, the veteran radio presenter and former editor of the Scottish Daily Mirror. I don’t suppose we changed many minds, but I was pleased that Mike and talkRADIO created a forum for a proper, grown up debate about the lockdown policy, something that hasn’t really happened on the BBC or any other mainstream media platform.
You’ll notice quite a contrast between mine and Chris’s appearance. We see Chris lounging on his sofa in what appears to be a dressing gown, a microphone in one hand and a vape in the other. All you see of me, by contrast, is my enormous noggin. I don’t think that was a consequence of my Zoom set up. Rather, I think talkRADIO decided to chop out the Free Speech Union banner behind me and that meant a tight close up of my face.
I’ve had some nice comments about it on Twitter since it appeared on YouTube yesterday, but then most of the people I follow on Twitter are lockdown sceptics so they’re inevitably biased. In my long experience of doing these debates, the people who agree with you think you did well, whereas the people that disagree with you think you got owned by your opponent. I think it was a draw. We both got an opportunity to put our arguments across and neither of us landed a killer blow.
Watch for yourself and see what you think.
Stop Press: Nicholas Lewis has taken Snowdon to task for his groundless criticisms of Mike Yeadon when he wrote about false positives in September.
A GP Protests “No Jab, No Job”
A GP, Dr Clare Jones, has written to her MP Jesse Norman to protest against being compelled to be vaccinated or face disciplinary action from the General Medical Council, as Lockdown Sceptics reported yesterday. She copied us in and we thought we’d share it with you.
Dear Jesse,
Having worked tirelessly for the NHS for 31 years as a hospital doctor, A&E doctor and a GP with probably two sick days in my whole career, is the Government really suggesting that because I exert my choice not to have the Covid vaccine, my wealth of medical experience is going to be lost just because I choose to exercise my free will and conscience ?
Like most other people who decline the vaccine, I’m not an “anti-vaxxer”. My son is fully vaccinated; I have travel vaccines. But I weigh up the pros and cons of vaccines in a more informed way than most other people and have decided for now I don’t want it (likewise the flu vaccine). There is currently a haemorrhaging of experienced GPs due to unprecedented stress levels, including one over the last couple of months from our five partner practice. If I go it will destabilise our already struggling practice.
I have borne the burden of vaccinating (with no extra payment and massive organisational toll) the population who CHOOSE to be vaccinated, the burden of listening to the thousands of patient emotionally damaged by the ill-judged and poorly assessed lockdown (the lack of risk/benefit analysis has been criminal), the burden of carrying work for other colleagues who can’t manage the unprecedented stress in the system, the dumping of more and more work onto primary care – and now this slap in the face.
The Government needs to take a break from criticising the Chinese Communist Party for a moment and stop in its own attempts at re-educative, repressive and punitive strategies directed toward minorities such as those who choose not to be vaccinated. It is disrespectful and demeaning to an educated and thoughtful sector of society to impose a medical procedure against our will.
I would also like to be able to continue to move freely in the UK and the world at large, which is a much more effective and healthy way of managing mental strain than the endless mental health online resources we are bombarded with and that we’re much too busy and exhausted to look at. Travelling and exploring freely in the world at home and abroad has proved an effective way to keep me functioning well in a highly stressful job. Happily, I just need to be able to move freely in my God-given environment and breathe God’s free air to keep me happy and functioning as a productive and functional human being. Vaccine passports would deprive me of this healthy outlet.
Believe me, I will make the most of an imposed early retirement if enforced vaccination becomes a reality, by finishing my thesis on “governmental revolving door policies with particular emphasis on pharmaceutical companies”. After all, what do I have to lose? Not my freedom.
(Dr) Clare Jones
Hereford
Stop Press: Care UK, one of the UK’s largest care home firms, has introduced a ‘no jab, no job’ policy, saying new staff must have received a Covid vaccination before they start work, the Guardian reports. Barchester, meanwhile, which operates more than 220 private care homes, has said it is insisting that current staff are vaccinated, warning that if they “refuse … on non-medical grounds [they] will, by reason of their own decision, make themselves unavailable for work”.
How Effective Are the Vaccines?

The latest results from Imperial’s REACT study, published yesterday, have shown that more than nine out of ten of those vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccine develop COVID-19 antibodies. 91% of those vaccinated with two doses of the Pfizer vaccine had antibodies, rising to 95.5% in the under 60s but dropping to 88% in the over 80s. After a single dose, 94.7% of under 30s had antibodies after three weeks, but only 34.7% of over 80s.
This is encouraging news, given the Government’s apparent determination to use vaccines to exit the lockdowns.
Lockdown Sceptics reader Paul Roe, however, wonders why the purported benefit is yet to show up in the deaths data from the ONS. He comments:
The claim for the vaccines is that they have an efficacy of up to over 90% (Pfizer 94% Oxford-AZ 90%). It is claimed that you reach a “significant level of protection after 22 days”.
So you would expect that 22 days after the first jab (so from December 30th 2020) there would begin to be a significant fall in deaths for the 70s, 80s and 90+ age groups.
However, looking at the graph (above) the curves actually shoot up at that point and don’t begin to drop until four weeks later.
It has to be hoped that this is just a delayed reaction, bearing in mind that markedly low 34.7% figure for antibodies in the over 80s three weeks after the first dose. The ONS data relates to the situation around two weeks ago.
On a more cheering note, deaths are plummeting now.

Stop Press: Her Majesty the Queen has made a rare intervention in the vaccination drive, calling on people to “think about others rather than yourselves”, the Mail reports. The jab “didn’t hurt at all” when she had it, she said. The implication that those refusing the vaccine are selfish won’t go down well with those who decide that, for them, on balance the risks don’t outweigh the benefits.
Lockdown States Suffer More Deaths Than No-Lockdown States

No-lockdown states in America continue to outperform lockdown states this winter, with 1,475 Covid deaths per million in states which didn’t lock down this winter (seven of them didn’t lock down in the spring either) compared to 1,558 deaths per million in states which locked down in winter (all of which locked down in spring as well).
The no-lockdown states have gained a little on the lockdown states since February 1st: previously the lockdown states had 5.7% more deaths but now the difference has fallen to 5.3%. But there is no sign yet of any huge surge that might reverse their positions any time soon.
Could there be much clearer evidence that, whatever Neil Ferguson’s models might say, lockdowns do not hold back a flood of hospital admissions and deaths?
Time to follow the example of Florida and the other free states and end the restrictions.
Stop Press: 111 triages for potential Covid in England dropped yesterday to their lowest level since August 9th, indicating there is almost no community transmission of COVID-19 in England at present.

Biostatistician Jon Deeks has also spotted that the Innova lateral flow tests have been returning a positive rate of 0.32% for three weeks in a row now. That is the estimated false positive rate for the tests, further indicating almost zero community transmission of COVID-19.
Yet still we are set to stay in lockdown for many weeks yet.
Postcard from Bulgaria

We’ve received a postcard from Lockdown Sceptics reader Tim Ireland, who is in Sofia. He says there is “lots of hope restrictions will be released in the coming week or two”. Right now, though, it’s not a very happy place.
I’ve been coming and going from Bulgaria for 20 years – which is to say my knowledge of the country doesn’t reach back to the fall of the Iron Curtain, but it started in the heady days of pseudo mafia rule in the years that followed. Most of the people I know here were teenagers of young adults when the wall fell. Some were actively involved… they all remember what life was like before.
The somewhat depressing refrain I’ve heard from many – especially those with international exposure and who know how pervasive and demoralising the lockdown has been in the UK – goes roughly like “I thought we threw this junk out, dealt with the joblessness, disenfranchisement, and community decline of the transition to capitalism so we didn’t have to live like this. The reward for that price was supposed to have been liberty”. A high school best friend – still a very good mate and sardonic at the best of times – shrugs his shoulders and proclaims as if narrating the history of the human species from a pulpit “That’s it. Those that have lived, have lived. Those that have travelled, have travelled. The end.”
He’s actually among the more chipper of his countrymen, has worked hard to build a career, copped life’s knocks on the chin and still has a sense of humour, so he continues, more seriously: “We’ll learn to live with it, we always do”. Part of that adaptation has meant reverting to the kind of ground-up subversion of nonsensical rules. Decades ago, illicit restaurants and bars operated a series of code-name entry protocols, so-called ‘parola’ bars. Sometimes voiced, but more often just an unmarked door with a combination lock. No code, no entry. Another friend, a sickeningly multilingual pocket rocket who has spent the bulk of her career working for Belgian and Dutch outsourcing companies, grins conspiratorially as she explains “Do you know what’s the latest ‘hit’ in Sofia? – posting your restaurant bill on social!” It seems a small, humble thing, to have gone out to dinner, shared a meal with other people, but she makes no effort to hide the sheer triple-multiplied joy of both having socialised, screwed the authorities… and bragged about it publicly.
Worth reading in full.
COVID-1984

Our revisiting of George Orwell’s 1984 this week has inspired Lockdown Sceptics contributor and former Sunday Times medical correspondent Neville Hodgkinson to write a reflection on the Orwellian nightmare that our society has quickly descended into. He begins:
Lockdown Sceptics contributor Guy de la Bédoyère gave powerful testimony this week about the inhumanity inherent in the global hysteria surrounding COVID-19. Following his post here on Tuesday reporting the death in a care home at the weekend of his 100-year-old mother-in-law, BBC Radio 4’s World at One listeners heard him describe coolly but movingly the tragedy of her last days and months.
She did not die of Covid and did not have dementia. She was mentally alert to the end, and acutely aware of what she had been denied through the brutal isolation, as Guy put it, imposed by lockdown laws for the sake of keeping her ‘safe’. In her last year of life she never saw her four great-grandchildren, had only one or two fleeting visits from grandchildren, and was unable to hug or hold her one surviving child.
It was a “hideous punishment”, Guy wrote. “That it has come to this, that we as a society and led by the Government and its scientific advisers with the willing acquiescence of organisations and individuals have done so much to commit the ultimate act of betrayal towards people at the end of their lives will surely go down in history as one of the most ignoble and demeaning aspects of this tragic year.”
Since the start of the pandemic, I have asked myself how and why COVID-19 could have triggered so many policies that seemed aimed at generating as much fear as possible, with repeated exaggerations in numbers forecast, and little regard for the social, economic and health costs involved. Our politicians, and the select group of scientific advisers who seem to be dictating policy, present themselves as caring, smiling individuals, not at all like jack-booted monsters.
And yet… the Orwellian flavour of our current experience is unmistakable. It has given rise here at LS to suggested ‘Ministry of Truth’ slogans such as Breath Is Death, Solitude Is Solidarity, Fear Is Hope, Deaths Save Lives, Lockdown Is Liberty, and so on.
Find it on the right-hand side menu. Worth reading in full.
Plus, here are today’s top Party slogans. Thanks to all who have sent suggestions in.
LUNACY IS SANITY
COMPLIANCE IS LIBERATION
DETECTION IS INFECTION
DETENTION IS PREVENTION
FAILURE IS SUCCESS
DEBATE IS HATE
CANCELLATION IS COMPASSION
SCARING IS CARING
AUTHORITY IS TRUTH
DOUBT IS DEADLY
Round-up
- “WHO says vaccine passports should NOT be used for foreign travel as there are ‘critical unknowns’ around how jabs protect people” – Mail report on the latest advice from the World Health Organisation that takes a sceptical line on vaccine efficacy. Unfortunately, its alternative is to keep borders tightly shut, not reopen them for travel
- “Where did our human rights go?” – David McGrogan in spiked writes that, in the face of “an unprecedented assault on our civil liberties, too many lawyers and academics have remained silent”
- “Goldman Sachs: Bank boss rejects work from home as the ‘new normal’” – BBC report that David Solomon has said: “I do think for a business like ours, which is an innovative, collaborative apprenticeship culture, this is not ideal for us. And it’s not a new normal. It’s an aberration that we’re going to correct as soon as possible”
- “‘Socialist’ Jacinda Ardern now only allows travelling for the ‘super-rich’” – Niall McCrae writes in Unity News Network that the supposedly Left wing Government thinks New Zealand is suffering from “over-tourism” so plans to attract the kind of visitor who, to quote the tourism minister, “hires a helicopter around Franz Josef and eats at a top-end restaurant”
- “Reflections on the Year of Living on the Edge with COVID-19” – David Redman and Professor Ramesh Thakur write in the Australian Institute of International Affairs that, one year in, the hold of discredited mathematical models remains strong while existing pandemic preparedness plans lie forgotten
- “The 19 most scandalous things the government has done during this tragic debacle” – Russell David enumerates the charges on his Mad World blog
- “Call for artists: anti-lockdown exhibition” – Call for artists to “examine and respond to the lockdown that we are all experiencing” from Fitzrovia Circle
- “Lockdown scepticism shows the limits of post-truth politics” – Ian Dunt in Politics.co.uk writes that lockdown scepticism is “an ethical abyss, a testament to how certain commentators and politicians will allow their need for attention to overrule even the most rudimentary of moral standards”. Well, I’m convinced
- “In Egypt, those who remember Mubarak have little patience for lockdowns” – Robert Jackman writes a postcard from Cairo in the Telegraph after a welcome “bleisure” trip which went more smoothly than expected
- “The corrosive fear of asymptomatic transmission” – Excellent summary of the evidence against asymptomatic transmission from the Achilles Heel blog on Medium
- “Safety and Ethical Concerns of using COVID-19 Vaccines in Healthy Children” – A new open letter from the UK Medical Freedom Alliance raises the key issues at stake when contemplating vaccinating children against coronavirus
- “The Ferguson Correspondence” – Hugh Willbourn reflects on the recent exchanges in Lockdown Sceptics with Professor Neil Ferguson and what they tell us about why people believe what they do and how they change their minds
- “An Interview With Virologist Drosten in 2014” – Fascinating interview with the pro-lockdown scientist behind the Covid PCR test protocol who, seven years ago, warned (in relation to MERS) that PCR is “so sensitive that it can detect a single genetic molecule of this virus”, meaning “now suddenly mild cases and people who are actually very healthy are included in the reporting statistics”
- “UK lighthouse laboratories testing for SARS-COV-2 may have breached WHO Emergency Use Assessment and potentially violated Manufacturer Instructions for Use” – Norman Fenton and Martin Neil on the Probability and Law blog write that “UK laboratories have been routinely recording a large proportion of COVID-19 test results as positive based on the presence of one target gene alone”
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Six today: “I Wish I Could Go Travelling Again” by Stacey Kent, “Killing Yourself To Live” by Black Sabbath, “The Scientist” by Coldplay, “Road To Rack And Ruin” by King Kurt, “Feel like living” by Hothouse Flowers and “The Kids Aren’t Alright” by The Offspring.
Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums as well as post comments below the line, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email Lockdown Sceptics here.
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Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, it’s the news that Mr Potato Head is going gender neutral and is a Mister no more. Bloomberg has the story.
Hasbro, the company that makes the potato-shaped plastic toy, is giving the spud a gender neutral new name: Potato Head. The change will appear on boxes this year.
Toy makers have been updating their classic brands to appeal to kids today. Barbie has shed its blonde image and now comes in multiple skin tones and body shapes. Thomas the Tank Engine added more girl characters. And American Girl is now selling a boy doll.
Hasbro said Mr. Potato Head, which has been around for about 70 years, needed a modern makeover.
Read it in full here.
Stop Press: Just 16% of black Brits believe tearing down statues is “a legitimate form of protest“, according to a new report from the Henry Jackson Society, Guido reports.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to obtain a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card – because wearing a mask causes them “severe distress”, for instance. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and the Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. And if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption. Another reader has created an Android app which displays “I am exempt from wearing a face mask” on your phone. Only 99p.
If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.
And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here and Prof Carl Heneghan and Dr Tom Jefferson’s Spectator article about the Danish mask study here.
Stop Press: Wearing masks obviously isn’t possible while playing brass instruments. But that doesn’t mean somewhere can’t be found to place useless pieces of cloth. The Post Millennial reports that Wenatchee High School in Washington state hit upon making the school’s band practice in pop-up tents (picture above), providing each pupil with their own tent while also social distancing them six-feet apart. That’ll stop those pesky virus particles…
Stop Press 2: The Telegraph reports that some primary schools are telling children as young as five to wear face masks in the classroom. Depressing.
Stop Press 3: Mark Dolan on talkRADIO delivered a satisfying rant against forcing children to wear face masks in classrooms.
The Great Barrington Declaration

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. In February, Facebook deleted the GBD’s page because it “goes against our community standards”. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.
Update: The authors of the GBD have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.
Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.
Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.
Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here. Sign up to the newsletter here.
Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many legal cases being brought against the Government and its ministers we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.
The Simon Dolan case has now reached the end of the road. The current lead case is the Robin Tilbrook case which challenges whether the Lockdown Regulations are constitutional, although that case, too, has been refused permission to proceed. There’s still one more thing that can be tried. You can read about that and contribute here.
The GoodLawProject and three MPs – Debbie Abrahams, Caroline Lucas and Layla Moran – brought a Judicial Review against Matt Hancock for failing to publish details of lucrative contracts awarded by his department and it was upheld. The Court ruled Hancock had acted unlawfully.
Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.
There’s the GoodLawProject and Runnymede Trust’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.
Scottish Church leaders from a range of Christian denominations have launched legal action, supported by the Christian Legal Centre against the Scottish Government’s attempt to close churches in Scotland for the first time since the the Stuart kings in the 17th century. The church leaders emphasised it is a disproportionate step, and one which has serious implications for freedom of religion.” Further information available here.
There’s the class action lawsuit being brought by Dr Reiner Fuellmich and his team in various countries against “the manufacturers and sellers of the defective product, PCR tests”. Dr Fuellmich explains the lawsuit in this video. Dr Fuellmich has also served cease and desist papers on Professor Christian Drosten, co-author of the Corman-Drosten paper which was the first and WHO-recommended PCR protocol for detection of SARS-CoV-2. That paper, which was pivotal to the roll out of mass PCR testing, was submitted to the journal Eurosurveillance on January 21st and accepted following peer review on January 22nd. The paper has been critically reviewed here by Pieter Borger and colleagues, who also submitted a retraction request, which was rejected in February.
And last but not least there was the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review on December 9th and the FSU has decided not to appeal the decision because Ofcom has conceded most of the points it was making. Check here for details.
Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.
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And Finally…

Lockdown Sceptics reader David Kelly has come into possession of a leaked list of pledges inadvertently missed off the Conservative Party’s last election manifesto. Maybe they’ll include them next time?
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Dr Tedros must be unbelievably thick if he thinks that vaccinating 70% of the world’s population will end the pandemic. Has nobody told him it doesn’t work, especially against this latest ‘variant’ which could be something quite different anyway?
Not thick, bought.
And signed up to the agenda.
Yes, Gates and GAVI – the long dreamed of Global Mass Vaccination Agenda.
And covering up the role of his CCP masters in giving Wuflu to the world
“Owned”
THICK and Bought
What do you mean by “works”?
There is literally no epidemic right now other than the annual cold season.
They can call this off any time they like.
He’s just dangling a carrot in front of our noses and plenty of gullible slave-drones will believe him.
If there really is a respiratory virus floating round killing less than 0.1% of the population, you wouldn’t inject something into your bloodstream to fight it off.
This is the key argument. Why would we expect it to work? The true purpose of this injection is not to protect people. The people who claim to want to protect us are openly eugenicists with a great desire to reduce global population to a fraction of what it currently is.
We needn’t go further than Pfeffel’s own dad for proof. He’s written one book about ‘The Virus’ many years ago, and another about depopulation. There’s many interviews with him bashfully admitting to having these views as well.
Could have called it off and cried victory when all of the vulnerable were jibjabbed back in Feb. They didn’t.
“The Walrus and the Carpenter” describes the mentality of these people perfectly.
Notwithstanding this little “plandemic” is not the real story.
The so – called vaccines don’t work, well except to kill and maim, so injecting 70% of the world’s population will achieve nothing but more misery.
Interesting that this Tedros bloke is keen on learning lessons so that we can be better prepared “in the future;”got another brew on the go then have we Tedros?
And let’s not forget, the Moronic scariant is nothing but a common cold. It isn’t killing people.
More fear propoganda intended to undermine health.
FO.
He’s obviously not unbelievably thick: This goal can never be achieved, not the least because new people keep getting born all the time. Hence, there isn’t even a need to move this goalpost. Insofer Tedros goes, Chinese-style virus management through population control is here to stay forever. That’s his message.
Who made WHO, WHO? Do you really think anyone needs you?
A useful idiot? A well-paid useful idiot?
Yes, because restrictions have been so effective at ‘halting the spread’ so far, haven’t they? May as well try to stop the tide coming in for all the impact it has. FFS.
Join the dots ….Fauci…..Schwab “Great Reset”…the “New Normal”… “You will own nothing and be happy” …’transhumanism’ …Mass vaccination with an mRNA Gene Therapy with unprecedented levels of side effects and deaths…eugenics and population control ….all revealed in RFK J’s comprehensive, fully documented exploration of 50 years of Fauci’s ‘career’ and his partnership with Bill Gates since 2000 .
“The Real Anthony Fauci” (chilling!)
Who are you? I really wanna know…
Meet the new boss….
Jabbed and it still spreads,” but the symptoms aren’t as bad if you’ve been jabbed”, how do they know that? Last year we had nothing to jab into anyone, this year we have and allegedly the situation is worse. You could almost think it was a plandemic for a reset.
It’s a totally illogical statement. If you have the illness before the jab, you can never say how effective the jab was. If you have the jab before the illness, you’ll never know how your natural immune system would have coped by itself.
Exactly.
The thing about the pharmaceutical industry is that they can be quite effective at reducing the symptoms of something, but are pretty hopeless at actually making you well and preventing disease (and possibly not interested in a completely healthy population). So I am prepared to believe that their new medication reduces symptoms a bit, but at the same time am not surprised by reports that there is “no reliable evidence that the ‘vaccines’ reduce all-cause mortality”.
A relative of mine has been paranoid about catching Covid from the very beginning to the point where her family have feared for her sanity. She has sanitised and disinfected constantly, worn her mask religiously and avoided socialising completely. She had her booster jab last Friday and has now tested positive for Covid !
Ironically excessive sanitising is bad for your immune system (appparently intolerance to milk ihas been rising remorselessly as a result of the pasteurised muck commonly consumed today).
It reminds me of that fable where a couple’s daughter was prophesied to die from a tiger. The poor girl never went outside just in case – and ended up dying after a picture of a tiger fell and cut her, and the wound went bad.
Almost?
Well if we don’t like the way the WHO are governing us we can always just vote them out and elect someone else.
Oh, wait…
Gates wants the WHO to have increased Global Powers to direct all Health policy for all nations.
Worried? We ought to be!
It is a good job they had an effective vaccine for the black death or the human race would not have survived.
Scientists are working hard on a Black Death variant – it should be ready sometime next year…
Yes this is true – now why would anyone want to develop a ‘vaccine’ against a disease that is extremely rare (couple of thousand cases worldwide per year) and that can be successfully treated with antibiotics?
As if anyone with half a brain would follow such nonsensical advice, over Xmas especially! Mind you, the vast majority of the zombie masses have been doing a grand job of complying with any bullshit instructions thrown their way thus far. Nothing surprises me any more!
I would expect BBC interviews over next couple of days with people who are ‘sadly’ following that crap advice to the letter – “just to be safe” – because, after all ‘a cancelled event is better than a cancelled life’. What a soundbite.
He wants to try that line with all the “cancelled lives” of the people whose elderly relatives died in a care home when they weren’t allowed to visit to say goodbye and the people whose relatives died because they didn’t receive the care and treatment they needed for cancer, heart disease etc.
Forget the BBC… watch GB News!
We could say the same for every day of the year because simply being alive puts people at risk.
Every winter past lives have been “cancelled” while everyone just got on with Christmas.
With no real objectives this can never end.
“New year at Trafalgar Square cancelled.”Hardly surprising. But the real test is: how many people will party outside anyway? The police might be able to block off Trafalgar Square, but they can’t block off every open space in the capital, try as they might. If the public feel safe enough to party, they will find a way.
As will the politicians, who are bound to party when they think nobody is looking, as they did last year. I wonder if the government’s indecision is partly because somebody is blackmailing them, about other “events” from last year which have not come to light yet?
It does look as if the government might be trying to persuade people to stay apart, using the tried-and-tested campaign of fear, so they can gleefully say “we didn’t lock down over Christmas”. Perhaps the government knows Omicron isn’t as bad as they are telling us it is; or are they afraid of riots, while using “cabinet revolt” as the reason? Even if they get away with not locking down, people won’t forget how they destroyed the hospitality industry this time round. I don’t know if Saint Boris will ever be able to enter a pub again.
Khan loves nothing more than canceling London two years running – it fits with his wider cultural agenda. Besides, it surely hardly affects his core vote?
Joy is like kryptonite to Marxists.
My dad just said that he’d be dropping his grandkid’s presents off tomorrow, while wearing a mask.
I’ve told him that he’s more than welcome to visit, but not if he’s wearing a muzzle.
We had all that last year with certain family, refusing to come in, refusing to let us in. And they’re doing the same this year! It’s becoming quite a tradition now. However, we’re having some new friends round and we’re having some Yuleride celebrations with all the trimmings. We’re all through with this.
That will be Christmas plans not cancelled then…
he’s also on a list that has, earlier this week, been presented as a complaint at the International Criminal Court on charges of Genocide.
But this site can’t be bothered sourcing stuff like this and maintains its’ managed opposition status
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/the-international-criminal-court-fighting-for-the-people-part-i/
We pretty much all understand this now, we’ve got the agenda, this is boring. I agree with others who have said that the site should stop rounding up and repeating the news of the agenda unless they’re going to analyse it and put it in context.
Many pieces on DS do that, especially Will Jones, and contributors emerging from the dark, limbic depths of the comment section, but we need more rebutting the agenda, more on how to fight the agenda.
Agree 100% this site is losing relevance, becoming obsolete. Let’s focus on prevention of further violations of our inalienable rights, let’s see more moral & legal arguments, fewer charts & statistics.
And what about the Draconian bills being pushed through parliament, Toby ?
Losing relevance is probably inevitable. There are only so many ways that you can say the same thing.
I subscribe to an email from Wattsupwiththat and I have almost stopped reading the website because there’s little that is new, and it’s a voice in the wilderness that is the MSM and academia, it doesn’t matter if the information is valid and correct, the readers know this, but whilst it is difficult to the point of impossibility and hostility from certain people to get published then it’s a battle of attrition.
I can understand TY as an Eton educated establishment man, doesn’t wish to be seen as a “conspiracy theorist” among his peers, so tries to use statistics & academics to defend his scepticism, but it’s now time to provide “expert” legal arguments, & human rights etc.
Science has lost the argument because it was always about politics.
Science hasn’t lost the argument because it was always politics, it has lost the argument because sceptical scientists are incapable of communicating with the general public.
I have banged on about this on WUWT for years now to no avail. Many of the contributors are so up their own arse they don’t know how to speak plain English.
When the site was recently revamped I pleaded that a layman’s section be included so people without a degree in science could pop along for an explanation of what was going on.
There are something less than 10% of the world with a higher education. The left have been effective in communicating their climate hysteria with propaganda to the remaining 90%, each of which have a single vote.
Scientists also have a single vote but these geniuses can’t figure out that if they only persuade themselves climate change is bunk, they are still only persuading 10% of the world, also with one vote each.
Without science we are left in a world of superstition. Most of the world functions on that basis because scientists simply cannot communicate!
The 90% will persuade themselves soon enough when they have to go hungry (or cold) to pay for this nonsense. People in war torn parts of the Ukraine scratch coal from opencast pits to fend off the cold in Winter. I suspect it will be the same everywhere when it comes to it.
Third world countries that go along with it are just hoping for a handout (like the Maldives).
Not Eton
Indeed – the ones planning to kill freedom of speech.
Have to agree with you there, Sandra. As much as I really appreciate all the work that goes into DS daily, some of it is too focussed on mainstream scare stories and propaganda. I always knew this winter was going to be hard, that in the Globalist agenda to thrash everyone soundly, they will commit unbelievable acts against us, and they’ve started. We need more from the resistance front, from maybe from those who are our own “trusted voices” which includes ourselves, of course! To be fair, maybe it is us that should be offering up the articles for publication.
As much as I don’t like saying it.. the only reason this site keeps going and attracts the numbers it does is entirely because of its mainstream focus. Its the commentators that give it an edge and steer the debate, and a vast number of people read the comments. Absolutely they do, and I’ve noticed an increase lately.
We’ve got a highly visited platform for our views, and we mustn’t forget that, even though the articles make us groan and roll our eyes sometimes. Far better to comment here than small focus group sites, there’s a far wider audience..
Yes – my take is never mind the official article being published – if others visit the site and click on the links etc provided by those BTL then they might get an education, in the same way I do.
I just skim the articles. Its BTL comments that I come for
“……DS daily, some of it is too focussed on mainstream scare stories and propaganda.”
Mainstream scare stories are propaganda and the only way to counter that is with propaganda.
The science of any given circumstance is pointless as scientists are the worst communicators on the planet. They operate in an academic bubble, congratulating themselves at how clever they all are.
I think Einstein once said ‘if you can’t explain it to a five year old you don’t understand it yourself’.
DS, Conservative Woman and a few others are basically all we have to counter the propaganda from the government and Toby has been clever by adopting the stance of free speech rather than opposition to the governments policies.
True, more analysis would be good, especially vital legal analysis of avenues for resisting mandates. But also we shouldn’t forget that this site remains a light of sanity and information in the darkness.
And here we all are debating sensibly and rationally about this. With thought processes involved. And this is what can’t be applied to the MSM as a whole, as we know. We have to protect and preserve what we have here at all costs!
So far as I can see, there’s plenty of analysis, plenty of original content, both above and below the line. I think this is just nit picking (if you’re still allowed to say that).
He’s lost the room! Darts fans sing ‘Stand up if you hate Boris’ in unison at the World Championships while football fans chant expletives about him
There could be trouble if Leeds play Millwall…
Wasn’t that darts fan supposed to write “180” there?
Bit rich of Tedros, the CCP stooge and Cover-Up Specialist, to call for China “to be more forthcoming”. It’s a pity he didn’t keep a closer eye on all the “bad actors” in this gain-of-function disaster, including those from the UK, USA and elsewhere, and put a stop to those dangerous games, which have turn3ed the entire world into another Gruinard Island.
Tedros going to limit Ramadan too when it comes?
Didn’t Fauci actively encourage Halloween too, this year?
I don’t have much of a Christmas to cancel but I won’t change my usual plans one iota. Christmas eve a few pubs, a walk, unmasked, spreading the coof. Let’s go Brandon!
Whatever you do, enjoy it, and be at peace with yourself!
Clare Craig is recommending we checkout Real Sage or IRA Sage, whatever they call themselves, Zero Covid Nutters Group, who have posted a guide to enjoying Christmas safely.
It’s wonderful – link on her Twitter feed.
Susan Michie and her demonic ilk are advising us to wear extra layers on Christmas because all the windows will be open while they Zoom call with shivering grannie in her open window flat with gender reassigned second Grannie all at six feet apart around the Christmas table.
If any leading member of this group is seen doing anything else, please post pictures.
And if anyone gets pix of them actually doing it, please post those too.
Won’t they have to turn the heating up? I hope we don’t run out of gas and wind…
Because these vaccines aren’t sterilising, vaccinating 70% of the world’s population won’t stop the spread of coronavirus. It will just result in even faster production of vaccine resistant strains. Which will need more vaccines. So what Dr Tedros is advocating is vaccinating 70% of the world’s population, every year, forever, against a pathogen of no risk to any but a small group of the very elderly and frail – the western elderly and frail, in fact.
Imagine the state violence & oppression & censorship that will be needed to enforce this futile attempt, every year. Imagine the deaths from adverse events from inadequately tested vaccines, scaled up globally. Imagine what will happen to other vaccination programmes- vaccinations that really do make a lifesaving difference to children in developing countries. Imagine the death & devastation this will cause.
This is the monster of zero covid, back in another guise. Enforced by an international organisation. It’s not about stopping deaths; that could be achieved by vaccinating the vulnerable. It’s about an attempt to achieve global elimination of a virus of no threat to the vast majority of the world’s population. An attempt that will of course fail- but which will impose an imaginably vast cost of global death, oppression, and suffering. Dr Tedros is a terrifying threat to children, health and freedom across the world. His WHO has become a monster.
Evidently by definition, if the “vaccine” doesn’t prevent infection or transmission it can never achieve herd immunity & therefore it’s irrelevant how many people are vaccinated.
There are unsubstantiated claims it reduces severity of illness, if this is true (i’m sceptical) then as the only at risk groups are individuals suffering from old age or immunosuppressed with comorbidities, there can be no case for mandated vaccines.
You see time and again in the propaganda that the only reason they give for vaccines are emotional blackmail, socialist pressure & subjective immoral, irrational, arguments such as vaccinated people don’t feel safe or confident around the unvaccinated.
Basically they’re trying to craft a narrative there’s only two choices, lockdowns or vaccines, as evidence shows neither work this is clearly coercive control & it’s impossible to see any court support it & yet!
It’s a criminal conspiracy & an abhorrent violation of human rights, led by pseudo communist neoliberals, no cock-up about it, when it’s by design but denied, it is a conspiracy.
“if this is true (i’m sceptical)”
Entirely unprovable. How does anyone know how they’ll react to covid with, or without a clotshot. The concept was only promoted when it was realised the clotshots had failed at their primary function, stopping the virus in vivo and eliminating transmission.
I wasn’t anti-clotshot when all this began, I just wanted to wait and see what would happen, if necessary until 2023 when clinical trials will allegedly be completed.
I’m very glad I did, the whole thing has turned into a monumental medical, social and political shambles. Brexit was a monumental cock up from the day of the vote to leave and this has simply exemplified how incompetent our current government (and the opposition) are.
It’s not about a virus.
As the saying goes, good luck with that …
Nice of Tedros to let us know his personal target given to him by Gates-Davos.
It will be a new global standard for the management of “pandemics”.
New virus – restrictions – roll out vaccine – declare the end when 70% of global population is jabbed.
Except that they’ll get greedy and they’ll want even more next time.
Nothing is ever never enough for these psychos.
You have to wonder how blatant it is possible for lies to get. If you accept what the rulers say about SARSCoV2, then it follows that the fast spread of the omicron variant should be encouraged.
Does someone not like Christmas?
they hate it, you might drink alcohol and say this is all a big fat get rich quick Con trick or similar
If the equivalent of Omricon had happened in 2018 or 2019 would it even have been reported or made the news? Just another winter virus?
Allegra Stratton might have done a piece on ITN at 10pm….
They love names now, maybe they think it gives it all more credibility, naming a windy day, naming a variant, all brainwashing to make it ‘something’ I’ve got ‘omicrom’ they say, even more important than ‘covid’
Isn’t this the same person who implored us to “test, test, test”?
A new ‘common sense’ virus is now spreading rapidly across planet and is predicted by guesswork to be moving faster than experts with computers can generate a graph or any meaningful statistics, large pharma are collaborating to introduce an untested ‘Forgive and Forget’ vaccine which they believe, based on no long term data, will work. Politicians when asked to comment, do not think the public will be taken in quite so easily, one said we need another cheese and wine party before making any further comments.
This member of the public tells the WHO to fuck off, and then fuck off some more.
Oh, WHO you say? Actually, I have something in my pocket for you…
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Every picture tells a story..
Every picture tells a story..
Those photos are just a cock-up.
Pray tell why oh great one…
Every picture tells a story..
Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure
Later,
Bill & Ted’s Bogus Journey
Finally, the last one everyone wants to see…
Bill & Ted Face the Music
The world has already cancelled one Christmas and two Easters over the last two years because we should “save Granny!” Before it was ” until we have a safe and effective ” vaccine. Now we have a number, causing severe harms and death and people are refusing to take it. So here comes the punishment for not being good, obedient citizens and taking your medicine…. However, folks, remember, even in fully vaxxed countries, like Gibraltar they STILL locked everyone down. They’ve changed the language to redefine what “vaccinated” and ” immunity” means. They changed the goalposts and lied and lied and lied, to push the now blatantly obvious Globalist agenda. Now we have that criminal at the top, telling us, like a madman, that we must KEEP doing same thing in order to get a different outcome, which we know is another lie. All based on lies, and
in,
out modelling to get a REQUIRED outcome! The figures don’t add up and NO ONE is dying!
If ANYONE can’t see NOW what is going on, and they go along with it all, STILL, they deserve all they get.
<insert Kermit the Frog tea-sipping meme here>
…quite.
But modelling shows that in a worst case scenario, everyone who crosses the road will get knocked down, overwhelming the NHS!
I see that Gibraltar reported 59 “cases” yesterday, equivalent to 125,000 in the UK. I know Gibraltar is quite a densely populated country, but even so.
I’d like to cordially invite Dr Tedros to disappear up his own arse.
Plenty of room!
Anyone pushing vaccination to “end” this is a charlatan.
“an event cancelled is better than a life cancelled”
No, all your events cancelled are adding up to our lives cancelled, and we’ve had enough. I’m going to celebrate Christmas with my church family and ignore all of you.
‘A vaccination cancelled is better than a life cancelled”
WHO Tells Public to Cancel Christmas Holiday Plans.The public replies with a most heartfelt apology.
Foxtrot Oscar, Dr Tedros.
i cant wait for the next variant and then the next variant and then the next varainat and then the next variant .My people are morons
In a word or two awwww fuck off.
Is anyone really still listening?
When just when are the British public and Government going to get their backbone back?
Here is my solution, defund the WHO, abolish SAGE, delicence the BBC.
That would make my Christmas very happy.
Life has been cancelled for the best part of two years – what’s he on about?
Up yours Ted Ross
We are carrying on completely as normal. Even better, in fact. In our area, the number of people now openly against all of this BS is growing (even people who have been “vaccinated”), and we’re all visiting each other’s houses between Christmas and New Year. Gonna be a great time!
We must keep our eye on the bigger picture – and be prepared.
The idea for implants for ‘humans-as-livestock’ featured in this 1985 song:
Cathy don’t go to the supermarket https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47TZ9MHI1qg
and was mentioned by film maker Aaron Russo, reminiscing about his friendship with Nick Rockefeller:
Nicholas Rockefeller admitted the elite’s goal is a 100% microchipped and enslaved World population – YouTube
From now on, ask yourself, and others, What have you done today to fight tyrrany?
I don’t know about the WHO’s advice, but I feel very theatened by the photograph. I am visibly and literally shaking.
It is so unlike the images I see of real modern British blended families – the sort of normal scene you see in any television advert or mainstream drama, reflecting the lives of so many of us.
Where are the cuddly old grandparents dandling charmingly-curled ethnically ambiguous children on their knees? Where is the incompetent and selfish cis normative uncle failing to carve the turkey, while a wise, brave and beautiful pans3xual transwoman looks on in wry amusement? Literally none of them have visible accessibility requirements. Where are the yams?
This image has nothing to say about the lived experiences of literally millions of imaginary people in Britain today.
I can only conclude the Daily Sceptic is no longer a safe space and will be reporting it to the appropriate authorities.
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BTW, very apt band name … THE WHO!
My family ignored Boris the ball bag Johnson last year and we will ignore him this year.
Tedros can Do One.
He doesn’t run my life any more than SAGE and Johnson do.
The WHO will be well pissed off with the logic and common sense coming from South Africa.
Te WHO is funded by Bill Gates and works to his agenda . Tedros was Gates’ choice for the Chris Whitty works for the WHO leadership ….join up the dots anyone?.
Tedros is not a medical doctor – he has never practiced- his PHD was in philosophy and Community Health and he was Gates’ choice from the WHO leadership . He was previously Ethiopian Health Minister and Foreign Minster and suspected of involvement in Human Rights violation ‘aiding genocide ‘ in his home country. He is very close to China. ( Daily Mail/ Sun )
So – anyone got anything nice planned for Christmas?
Yup, big party my place, I reckon about 30 people will turn up, very many households and at least 7 different countries. No masks, no anti-social distancing and an ashtray on every table..If it rains well, we will just have to move indoors.
“an event cancelled is better than a life cancelled”… even if many lives are lost because we have diverted resources away from all other medical conditions
What a tosser
Truly unbelievable!!
They all seem really afraid of it spreading. I wonder why………
Tell the WHO to mind their own effing business and bugger off!!