Border Chaos Continues
The list of countries restricting or banning travel from the UK today grew to over 40, including much of continental Europe. The international responses to the new ‘variant’ of the virus range from outright bans to new self-isolation requirements regardless of a negative PCR test (as in the case of Greece). The border closures are not all limited to UK travellers either. Sweden has banned visitors from Denmark as well as the UK, and Saudi Arabia has slammed its borders shut completely. The knee-jerk actions are reminiscent of the early phase of the pandemic, where country after country copied each other’s panicky lockdowns. It deals yet another blow to the ailing travel and airline industries, as cancelled flights out of the UK number in the hundreds and climbing.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson held a press conference yesterday and scarcely mentioned the unfolding travel bans. Instead, he focused on the ongoing issues at the Dover-Calais crossing, insisting that the blockade would be resolved in a matter of hours after a conversation with French President Emmanuel Macron. Ambrose Evans-Pritchard writes in today’s Telegraph, closing the UK-France border is just another exercise in closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.
Emmanuel Macron’s ban on lorries entering France wins the prize for the most pointless political gesture since the onset of this pandemic. The mutant strain B.1.1.7 is already all over Europe.
British scientists spotted it early and have tracked it in real-time because the UK has carried out almost as much genome sequencing of COVID-19 as the rest of the world combined. Harvard epidemiologist William Hanage says the UK has the most advanced genomic monitoring regime on the planet.
Denmark is one of the few other states in Europe that also does extensive and rapid sequencing. Lo and behold, the Danes have found the same mutation. Many countries do little or no genomic sequencing at all.
It stretches credulity to imagine that a variant picked up in samples as far back as September is not already rampant in Belgium, the Netherlands, Italy, and indeed France. It had months to run when borders were wide open, long before the second lockdowns.
He goes on to quote the German virologist Christian Drosten whose somewhat sceptical comments in a German radio interview were also picked up by the Daily Mail.
Christian Drosten, Angela’s Merkel’s pandemic guru, says the mutation is almost certainly spreading in Germany already and he is sceptical about the data interpretation by Prof Neil Ferguson’s team at Imperial. “I am not particularly worried,” he told Deutschlandfunk, taking a gentle swipe at headline bio-hysteria.
Prof Drosten is careful not to violate scientific etiquette but he came as close as you can to rebuking the British Government – and by implication the modellers on the NERVTAG committee – for pushing a conclusion beyond the known evidence.
He questions the pseudo-quantification behind claims that the new strain is 70% more transmissible. “There are too many unknown strains to say something like that,” he told Covid reporter Kai Kupferschmidt.
Interesting that Christian Drosten, the lead author on the paper that wrote the rules on mass PCR testing that is currently being challenged by Dr Mike Yeadon and others, is a “mutant strain” sceptic.
Another expert to add a note of moderation was the microbiologist Dr Hugh Pennington, whose comments yesterday were reported in the Press and Journal.
The Aberdeen University Professor said: “The big issue with the variant is that it’s no nastier than the first one that came in March.
“It doesn’t kill people more readily or make them any more unwell but it’s said to be more transmissible. However, that’s what we’re being told. We have not seen any evidence to back that claim up.
“We haven’t seen any data that shows the increase in England is down to the new variant rather than people just not behaving themselves. Politicians won’t want to say that.
“If this virus has mutated to become more transmissible that would be a scientific novelty.
“It could be a coincidence with it getting commoner as the infection rate goes up.”
He said the only way to be sure, ahead of waiting on retrospective studies, would be to find out if the variant is more transmissible by checking what the infected dose is of one person to compare.
Mr Pennington added: “Is it more transmissible because you only have to breathe in a smaller dose of it? Or does somebody infected with it breathe out more virus?
“That’s what they need to find out.
The only other way to find out if people were more susceptible to this variant was through a volunteer study where you’d “pump the virus” into a room full of people… “and that’s unethical”, he added.
“It’s very hard to prove whether something is more transmissible or less. I’m not saying it’s not possible… but I would like to see more evidence.”
The Telegraph also reports that the ‘variant’ was spotted in Brazil eight months ago, adding weight to the idea that the strain has been circulating much longer than was thought to be the case – much like the ‘original’ strain for which patients in Italy had developed antibodies as early as September 2019, months before there was an official case recorded anywhere.
It’s even possible that the increased transmissibility could be a good thing, and an inevitable step in the well-established evolutionary process by which viruses become more infectious and less deadly, as the long-standing sceptic and retired NHS Consultant Dr John Lee writes in The Daily Mail.
Mutation of this (and every other virus) is inevitable – and, in fact, it needn’t always be a bad thing.
As new strains of a virus emerge, they naturally evolve towards variants that may be more transmissible but which cause mild or no disease.
Why should this be so? Because it actually benefits the virus – it is more likely to survive, reproduce and spread to ever increasing numbers of individuals if it doesn’t kill its hosts.
Crucially for us, if the new strain isn’t as virulent, its spread among Britain’s healthy populace could even be advantageous.
Exposure to it would stimulate the immune system to produce a response against it, so providing future protection as we move to a general level of immunity in the population.
So why don’t Johnson or Hancock publicly acknowledge this? Why do they persist instead with terrifying rhetoric of a ‘mutant’ virus spreading out of control?
Dr Lee’s piece is worth reading in full.
Stop Press: Regular Lockdown Sceptics contributor Dr Clare Craig gave a comprehensive interview to talkRADIO yesterday morning with Mark Dolan, covering topics including the new ‘variant’. Worth watching.
Stop Press 2: At the time of writing, the complete list of 42 countries which has banned travel from the UK is: Belgium, Italy, Austria, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Bulgaria, Hungary, Luxembourg, Slovakia, Poland, Romania, Switzerland, South Africa, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Croatia, France, Malta, Sweden, Turkey, Hong Kong, Canada, India, Russia, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Kuwait, Jordan, El Salvador, Ireland, Czech Republic, Colombia, Morocco, Chile, Finland and Argentina.
Stop Press 3: Boris Johnson has agreed to set up testing facilities to allow stranded hauliers to enter France, conditional on a negative test.
Scientific Advisers Clamouring for New National Lockdown
The Government’s scientific advisers have been clamouring for even more restrictions – Tiers 5, 6 and 7. The Guardian has more.
Andrew Hayward, a Professor of Infectious Disease Epidemiology at University College London and a member of the Government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE), said the new variant had the potential to spread around the UK and overseas.
“I recognise that we have restricted travel from the Tier 4 areas… but this transmission is not only in those Tier 4 areas, it’s there at some level across the country,” he said. “We’re just entering a really critical phase of this pandemic, and it makes absolute sense… to act decisively I would say across the country, as many other countries have done, despite them not as far as we know being affected by this strain.”
Asked if it would be advisable to have a national lockdown, Hayward said: “Personally, I think it’s clearer to give a consistent national message because although the levels of risk are different in different parts of the country, they’re still there and they’re still substantial.”
Personally?!? Does that mean he doesn’t mean “objectively” – it’s just his opinion? Rare candour, if so.
Hayward was not the only SAGE member to do an impression of a headless chicken.
Robert West, a Professor of Health psychology at University College London’s Institute of Epidemiology and Health, who sits on the advisory group on behavioural science for SAGE, said his personal opinion was that the current system was “unlikely” to contain the spread of the virus.
He said: “We need to reset our strategy and move rapidly to a zero Covid strategy of the kind that many have been proposing. This will involve stricter but more rational social distancing rules across the country, and finally doing what we should have done from the start – to build the kind of test, travel, isolate and support programmes they have in countries in the far east.
“It sounds expensive but the alternative could well be a catastrophic collapse in confidence in the country’s ability to control the virus and the economic, human and social disaster that would follow.”
Human and social disaster?!? If the Government is hearing this kind of hyperbolic language from its scientific advisors on a daily basis, it’s no wonder Boris is constantly being bounced into ever more hysterical policy announcements.
CDC Reports on Post-Vaccine Health Outcomes
The CDC has produced a document documenting the side effects of the mRNA Covid vaccines. Infrequent cases of anaphylaxis (a severe allergic reaction) have been reported already. However, a more interesting figure is to be found further down in the presentation, in a table entitled “V-Safe Active Surveillance for COVID-19 Vaccines”.
Out of the 112,807 doses administered, 3,150 experienced a “Health Impact Event”, described above by the CDC as “unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work, required care from doctor or health care professional”. That’s about 2.8% of recipients, although it does not mention the severity or duration of those events. If the UK Government’s declared target of vaccinating approximately 25 million people in “priority groups” is met, and the proportion remains stable, that could mean around 700,000 people potentially requiring some kind of medical care post-vaccination.
Isn’t mass vaccination supposed to protect the NHS?
Ferguson: Forgotten But Not Gone
In a development we mentioned in passing yesterday, which will raise the hackles of any sceptic who has kept a close eye on developments since March, the man behind the notorious model which panicked governments into lockdowns at the beginning of the year, and stepped down from SAGE after flouting his own rules, is back in the Strangelove hot seat.
Robert Mendick in The Telegraph has more.
Professor Lockdown is back. Neil Ferguson, the epidemiologist widely credited as the architect of the first national lockdown in the spring, has emerged once again as the most influential adviser to the Government during the current coronavirus wave.
For more than six months, Prof Ferguson has remained largely in the shadows, the result of his own indiscretion that forced him to take a backseat.
He continues:
Now, it has emerged Prof Ferguson – if he did go away – wasn’t gone all that long. His name appears on the list of 15 members of NERVTAG who met for two hours on Friday December 18th – between 11am and 1pm – that concluded the new variant of COVID-19, named VUI 2020 12/01 “demonstrates a substantial increase in transmissibility compared to other variants”.
A day later, Prime Minister Boris Johnson appeared on television to perform a spectacular U-turn, effectively cancelling Christmas for millions of people across London and the South East caused by the rise in infections by the COVID-19 mutation.
The Spectator‘s gossip columnist Steerpike also picked up on the indefatigable professor’s reappearance.
In sum, it appears that far from quitting following his lockdown breach, the Professor stopped his membership of NERVTAG for fewer than two months, and became a regular advisor once again in August.
Mr S would not, of course, be in favour of anyone being driven out of public life for a single transgression. But it is worth noting that Prof Ferguson was happy to receive praise in May for quickly stepping down to protect the Government’s credibility during lockdown. If these minutes are correct, it appears that his sacrifice was rather smaller than the public were led to believe. It also calls into question the Government’s own assertions in May that Ferguson had stepped down from his NERVTAG role. The Department for Health has been contacted for comment.
Ferguson himself told MPs in June that he was still a member of the SPI-M group, which advises the Government on coronavirus modelling, but did not mention returning to NERVTAG. Ferguson added that he was only attending other meetings on an “ad hoc” basis.
Since then, those “ad hoc” meetings appear to have morphed into full-time membership of another committee.
To Mr Steerpike at least, it looks very much like Neil Ferguson never stopped being a Government advisor, after all…
Correction: Excess Deaths in the US
Yesterday’s item in Lockdown Sceptics about the retraction by the Johns Hopkins News-Letter of Genevieve Briand’s suggestion that Covid wasn’t causing any excess deaths in the US contained some bad sums from a commenter we quoted. Our own Will Jones took another look at the CDC Data and figured out that at the current rate there would indeed be higher mortality this year than last – and more than the 1.2% increase in mortality that typically happens year-on-year. Although, as ever, how much of that can be attributed to the disease itself is an unanswered question. There have been concerns about lockdown-induced deaths in the US for months, not least from drug overdoses as the existing opioid crisis was worsened during lockdowns.
Using the data available here, Will concluded that the increase in total deaths this year compared to last year would be about 12.6%.
However, a reader who wrote in to prompt us about our maths slip-up also pointed out that the figures contain evidence of the so-called ‘Dry Tinder’ effect since the percentage increases for 2018 and 2019 (0.91% and 0.56% respectively) were low compared to previous years, suggesting mild flu seasons.
In case you’re not familiar with the ‘Dry Tinder’ effect, this article in the AIER discusses it in relation to Sweden and the Nordics and Ivor Cummins’ has produced several videos on the topic.
Bob Moran Gets It
Our favourite political cartoonist Bob Moran composed a reassuring tweet thread about the realistic risks of Christmas gatherings (though they could equally apply to any social occasion). Unfortunately, Twitter’s thought-police decided to delete the first tweet on the grounds that it “violated their rules”, though the meaning is still clear. Reproduced in full here, minus the offending first tweet:
First of all, given that you have no symptoms, what are the chances that you are infected with SARS-CoV-2? The ONS estimates this to be 1 in 115, or 0.87%.
Now, imagining you are infected, but you don’t have any symptoms, what is the probability that you will infect somebody else with SARS-CoV-2? Recent studies show this is around 0.7%.
If we multiply the probability of these two events, we can calculate the likelihood of you a) being infected & b) passing that infection on without symptoms. This gives a figure of 0.006%.
To put that figure in context, it’s roughly the same as your chance of dying in a car crash over the course of any given year.
But if you infect someone, this doesn’t mean that they are going to end up dying of Covid pneumonia. Far from it, in fact. There is a lot of debate regarding the IFR of SARS-CoV-2, but the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine puts it at roughly 0.5%.
Now, if we multiply the chance of infecting another person (without symptoms) by the fatality rate, we can estimate that the risk of “killing” one of your relatives is roughly 0.00003%, or 1 in 3 million.
Obviously there are a lot of caveats. If one of your relatives is very old and very ill, then the IFR is going to be higher. If they are relatively healthy, it’s going to be lower.
But there’s another caveat. PCR tests. The first number we used (the number of infected individuals in the UK) is based on positive PCR results. It is possible that only 3% of these positive results are accurate.
Which means that the risk of a person “killing” a relative without any discernible coronavirus symptoms may well be as low as 1 in 30 million – the same sort of likelihood of you winning the National Lottery.
Clearly, it is for individuals to assess risks for themselves and make decisions accordingly. But they should do so in the knowledge of how big those risks actually are. And nobody should be calling others “irresponsible” for taking a risk this minuscule.
Finally, this risk isn’t just the justification for ‘cancelling Christmas’, it’s the justification for all of it. Lockdowns, masks, school closures, undiagnosed cancers, suicides, stillbirths, unemployment. All done because we were told this specific risk was just too high.
Hear, hear, Bob.
Statisticians Ask Questions of Government
Quantitative Analyst Joel Smalley and Statistician Marie Oldfield have produced a new document containing a series of clincher questions for the UK Government. Smalley commented, upon its publication:
Updated report on England COVID. Focused on clinical data and classical surveillance systems. It’s pretty conclusive that the epidemic was over in Spring, probably made worse by interventions, and most of Autumn COVID is wrongly attributed. Can the Government disprove any of this?
It is 19 pages long, replete with graphs of official data, and might even be worth sending to your MP. The full document can be found here.
How to Defeat Cancel Culture
Check out Toby’s conversation with Angelo Isidorou of The Post-Millennial on cancel culture and how to defeat it. Toby talks about being on the receiving end of the social media mob, as well as the efforts of the Free Speech Union to protect other people who find themselves in the same predicament.
Stop Press: Listen to Toby and James Delingpole have their usual argument about whether the Covid crisis is cock up or conspiracy in the latest episode of London Calling.
Round-up
- “There’s more to life than avoiding Covid” – Blistering anti-lockdown piece in spiked by Emily Hill
- “The British blockade: another self-inflicted catastrophe” – Another good piece in spiked by Assistant Editor Fraser Myers on the UK’s border chaos
- “Be ‘sleek and silent’: how China censored coronavirus news at home” – Sydney Morning Herald article about the tight manipulation of information by the Chinese Communist Party at the beginning of the pandemic
- “There are thousands of Covid strains, so this new scare is NOT a big deal, but politicians just love their new authoritarianism” – Science journalist Peter Andrews writes in RT about the fearmongering over the new strain
- “London’s New Year’s Eve fireworks to be replaced by live TV show of 2020 highlights” – Brace yourself for a nauseating celebration of our ‘Blitz Spirit’. Expect lots of NHS rainbow pictures
- “Why Many Bosses Won’t Require Workers to Get the COVID-19 Vaccine” – Not quite as simple as it sounds, as the Wall Street Journal reports
- “Piers Morgan’s son Spencer reveals he escaped ‘cancelled Xmas’ in Tier 4 by travelling to family’s Tier 2 Sussex home” – The junior Morgan, a lockdown sceptic, is not taking after his father
- “Covid infections caught in hospital rise by a third in one week” – The HSJ reports that around one in four cases are now caught in healthcare settings
- Students were better at following rules than general public – Surprise finding by the ONS
- “Inflation basket must reflect drastic changes wrought by pandemic” – Philip Aldrick in The Times on changes needed to way inflation is calculated
- “Covid: Wuhan scientist would ‘welcome’ visit probing lab leak theory” – John Sudworth at the BBC with a long and fascinating story centring on the mysterious and controversial origins of SARS-CoV-2
- “January school closures considered as fears grow over new Covid strain’s spread among children” – Children’s education may be headed for another setback, reports The Telegraph
- “Is the mutant virus really out of control?” – Prof David Livermore, regular Lockdown Sceptics contributor, says we’re over-reacting to the new strain
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Four today: “Driving Home for Christmas” by Chris Rea, “On the Border” by Al Stewart, “I‘ll Be Home for Christmas” by Bing Crosby, and “Trust Me I’m a Doctor” by The Blizzards.
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
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Woke Gobbledegook
We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, we bring you the heartwarming news that singer Sam Smith has announced that they wants [sic] to “be a mummy” by the age of 35. The Mirror has more.
Broody Sam Smith “wants to be a mummy” and have children by the age of 35.
The music superstar has opened up about their desire to become a parent in the years ahead.
Sam is non-binary and uses they/them pronouns – and can’t wait to start a family.
The 28-year-old, though, admits the struggle to find a boyfriend is real – and joked that that special someone is nowhere to be found in London.
Time is on Sam’s side of course and they said in an interview with Apple Music’s Zane Lowe that kids are a must in the future.
Sam said: “I want kids. I want all of it. I want all of it. I want to have kids.”
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption. Another reader has created an Android app which displays “I am exempt from wearing a face mask” on your phone. Only 99p, and he’s even said he’ll donate half the money to Lockdown Sceptics, so everyone wins.
If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.
And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here.
The Great Barrington Declaration
The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.
Update: The authors of the GDB have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.
Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.
Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.
Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here.
Judicial Reviews Against the Government
There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.
First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here. Alas, he’s now reached the end of the road, with the Supreme Court’s refusal to hear his appeal. Dolan has no regrets. “We forced SAGE to produce its minutes, got the Government to concede it had not lawfully shut schools, and lit the fire on scrutinizing data and information,” he says. “We also believe our findings and evidence, while not considered properly by the judges, will be of use in the inevitable public inquires which will follow and will help history judge the PM, Matt Hancock and their advisers in the light that they deserve.”
Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.
Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.
There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.
The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.
And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review in December and the FSU has decided not to appeal the decision because Ofcom has conceded most of the points it was making. Check here for details.
Samaritans
If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.
Quotation Corner
We know they are lying. They know they are lying, They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know that we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn
It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
Mark Twain
Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.
Charles Mackay
They who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he’s doing is good, or else that it’s a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions…
Ideology – that is what gives the evildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn
No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you never should trust experts. If you believe the doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require to have their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury
Nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get into the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man, who knows where it hurts, is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialist.
Sir Winston Churchill
If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science.
Richard Feynman
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C.S. Lewis
The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.
Albert Camus
We’ve arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.
Carl Sagan
Political language – and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists – is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.
George Orwell
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.
Marcus Aurelius
Necessity is the plea for every restriction of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
William Pitt the Younger
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
Joseph Goebbels (attributed)
The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.
H.L. Mencken
I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who denies to another this right, makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.
Thomas Paine
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And Finally…
Trapped abroad or stuck in Tier 4 over Christmas? We may have found just the thing to ease your homesickness.
Bottles of fresh air from England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales are being marketed as the perfect gift for homesick Britons living overseas this Christmas. Relocation website My Baggage is offering fresh air bottled from the four home nations for £25 each and claim the bottles are already being snapped up by families with loved ones living abroad – in a bid to remind them of home and possibly tempt them back to our shores.
The company is also offering special limited edition bottles featuring air captured on the London Underground and air from the inside of a busy Norfolk fish and chip shop. Each 500ml of air comes with a cork stopper so the owners can open for a moment, take a breath and quickly close again, allowing many weeks or even months of use. My Baggage is also willing to fulfil special customer requests by bottling air from any UK location, and have already fulfilled an order of air from the misty summit of Snowdonia for a homesick Welshman living down under.
Sounds made up, but it’s actually real. For £25, residents of Tier 4 areas can get an authentic blast of what it smells like to be outside the home you’re imprisoned in.
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Glory be.
Coroner blasts COVID-19 death rates, calls data misleading
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM7XaALbhwk
Two of the covid deaths had actually died of gunshot wounds
Specially manufactured Covvibullets fired from Covviguns.
PS. Covviroulette. Every shot in the barrel is a Covvishot.
Allegedly spread by covigina’s too
Is that the new assisted death protocol for Covid victims?
Better check you raccident insurance policy people. If you die in an accident and have tested positive for COVID-19 it could be classed as natural causes, and give the insurance company an excuse for a reduced or no payment.
Having worked as a claim assessor in the past I would concur – these rats are always looking for reasons not to pay
A 20-year-old was listed as a CV19 death in the U.S.
This was queried as to whether he had any previously unknown underlying conditions.
Oh, no, was the reply, he was killed in a motorcycle crash. But he was still listed as a CV19 death because he tested positive….
Sir Desmond Swayne Interview Exposes BBC Hypocrisy As They Help The Government Hide From Scrutiny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQiNXFfbGa0
Captain Tom CANCELLED By Twitter Mob!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaR4C9rgsXE
so here’s what John Hopkins University is planning for us in 2025, the next ‘Pandemic’ and next vaccine MVAX and corovax….All to keep the people locked up at home
https://www.bitchute.com/video/5B3gXR8Q6Wcx/
https://stars.library.ucf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1029&context=jicrcr
2nd close but no cigar!
3rd.
The Sam Smith caption made me chuckle.
Imagine the scene at the Miraculous birth:
Midwife: It’s a bbbbb- ggggg- well, I think it’s human….
It’s a Borg. Aarrrghh!
Good to see that this has been included in today’s main headlines but in case you missed it please up tick this!
Solid, up to the minute evidence that the vaccine roll out is harming people.
The latest findings from a report to the CDC (Centre for Disease Control) from ACIP (Advisory Committee on immunisation practice) has highlighted the fact that over a four day period (Dec 14th—18th) out of 112,807 registrations who received a vaccination, 3150 of them shortly afterwards were *unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work, required care from doctor or health care professional* This is 2.8% of the group. Needless to say this is a horrendous percentage and should, in a just world, be headline news on the BBC. At the very least this should result in nothing short of a full suspension of the vaccine rollout.
This was first highlighted by Dr Vernon Coleman here:
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/urgent-news-about-the-covid-19-vaccine_botqwzI8R7UUVY2.html
And the full report is here:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2020-12/slides-12-19/05-COVID-CLARK.pdf
The above news is REAL and IMPORTANT. It needs to spread throughout your contact lists and more. I’ve sent it to my GP surgery and a friend I know is writing to our local papers. We must stop talking to ourselves and grasp the nettle when we have concrete evidence like this to work with.
The zombies will still fight for the jab that will Keep Them Safe, who are we to stop themz?
And they would roll over Granny who they are supposed to be protecting to get theirs first
In the U.S., that’s precisely what they’re doing.
With no vaccine which number lockdown will we be on in 12 months and up to which number tier. If people want the vaccine let them have it, I just want lockdowns to end.
You think that they will end when people have been vaccinated?
Really?
Wow, I admire your optimism. ‘Vaccine to end lockdown’ is the same as ‘three weeks to flatten the curve’, I fear.
Endless vaccines and vaccines boosters tied to a lifetime of immunity passports and track-and-trace is another kind of lockdown. This is not about a virus. It’s about money and control.
Hard to see how anyone could disagree with this now Ben.
It’s about genocide.
Lockdowns and other nonsense won’t end because of a vaccine, whatever gave you that idea. Clearly something big is going on and I’m not talking about the ephemeral coronavirus. It is genocide by vaccine.
77th Brigade type thinking and all your workmates voting it up.
Saw yesterday that a hospital in the States suspended vaccination of health care workers after several of them displayed adversa reactions to the vax.
But not to worry, they’ll soon start it up again.
I’m absolutely resolute I won’t be having this vaccine after reading evidence that genetics can predispose you to having adverse reactions to vaccines. I was adopted by my step father at a very young age and thanks to an idle social worker producing a very sparse adoption report I’ve been unable to trace my biological father. Consequently I only know 50% of my family medical history. In view there being so many unknowns regarding the long term effects of this vaccine I’d rather not risk the possibility of long term disability.
none of us should risk it.
That is correct, these wretched vaccines will be intentionally harmful.
I fear the immediate short term problems will pale into insignificance once the long term effects of gene altering therapies start to take effect. I sincerely hope I am wrong.
We need more information and context before people will take that seriously. Most people will think that’s made up of people experiencing a head ache so “unable to work”. More digging is needed before this can properly be called a smoking gun.
In the U.S., they’ve decided that “essential workers” should get the vaccine first, before the vulnerable elderly.
The former tend to be from minority ethnic groups, whereas the latter are majority white.
Wait for the screaming of racism to start when the essential workers (which includes Congresswomen such as Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, a healthy 31 year-old) start developing serious side effects…
London and the Southeast were put into lockdown tier 4 and Xmas cancelled to stop the spread of the scary mutant virus ?
Local Live (mirror group news).
‘The new Coronovirus variant has been in (my tier 2) region for weeks but appears to be spreading slower than in other areas.
‘ONS stats suggest that 27% of cases in the region were the new strain (w/c 9 Dec) which is one percentage point lower than the previous week.’
It is already out of London and the S/E so no point locking them down bozo you clown
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There were nill, zero, no deaths reported for yesterday, go figure the scary new mutant covid.
Good God, are you seriously suggesting that the pig dictator is lying?
Soz for poor quality but this ONS graphic shows that the scary mutant is already in all 9 English regions
Declining as a proportion of all cases in 4 of them. Baseline week commencing 30th Sept-9th Dec.
The plot doesn’t really tell us anything other than they have been tracking the new variant since September and that numbers are low with the possible exception of London and the East. Witness the random jumping around of most of the data – a pretty good sign that levels are at or below the detection level and all that is being recorded is noise!
So just another scary graph then ?
Yes!
And the basis for their next decision to lockdown the whole country again soon I imagine.
Yet again another delayed reaction. Can’t remember where I checked it, but my borough has one of the lowest rate of cases despite having a segment of the population that are not known for following the rules on social distancing (but would happily muzzle up).
So the government has been lying to justify this “Tier 4” scam.
The mutant strain rubbish was put about in order to stifle dissent as Christmas mixing was cancelled for millions of people.It will also be the pretext for putting the rest of the country into Tier 4 in readiness for the vaccine.
We are being played time and tine again using the same tricks but even on here people still try to see the logic in Government policy.
The measures only make sense when compared to what an occupying force would enact.
Agree. It was always the intention to have a Lockdown 3: The Sequel to the Sequel but they needed something to soften up the populace for it.
Lockdown 3 seems pretty inevitable and no doubt planned long ago.
Reminds me of Hollywood.
Yes I agree wholeheartedly with this. We have what UK Column calls a Government of occupation. All the mutant strains, ‘Tiers’, cancellations, lock-downs, restrictions, apparent contradictions, last-minute U-turns, ‘lunacy’, ‘cock-ups’ etc are psyops and we run the risk of counting angels on pin-heads if we try to explain it any other way or waste our efforts in trying to unpack the USA death figures, say.
If you have lived with people who are suffering under brutal occupation, as we have, it is impossible to mistake what’s happening in this and nearly every other country. Every hallmark is there, closures, contradictory orders, herding, curfews, lock-downs, censorship, violent repression, minute control of people’s personal lives. Not to mention constant outright lies! One of Israeli’s favourite tactics is to issue leaks to the media about easing or tightening of restrictions which every Palestinian knows always means the opposite.
Maybe this experience is why we became sceptical very quickly when all this started.
A friend of ours escaped to Spain the day before the latest orchestrated panic. While she’s away, I have inherited her mid-90s lady who she helps out with shopping. Apart from refusing to wear a mask on principle, I am actually medically exempt anyway. I went round to see her this morning and I had to re-arm myself against worrying that I might actually infect her even though I know she is more at risk, if anything, from her muzzled carers and relations than from me. I have no symptoms of anything and her face lights up when I go in as I’m probably, along with my absent friend, the only face she sees nowadays.
I never engage with MSM or social media but this is how insidious this stuff is. Even our lovely sceptical butcher asked me this morning what I thought of the new mutant strain and she seemed to be arguing for testing for CV on the basis that ‘we test people for cancer'(!!) I think I put her straight but, bloody hell it was hard work. Despite her default scepticism, she has never heard of the word ‘asymptomatic’ – she probably thinks it means the opposite – and that’s the kind of thing we’re up against.
Oh and by the way, Ferguson is just following orders, just like the Cabinet and all the signed-up ‘scientific advisors’. MW
He’s also guilty of causing huge disruption to people visiting the UK, whose ’home’ countries will now not let them back in for the foreseeable future
“Because unfortunately people around the world still have respect for what a British Secretary of State says“
Seems incredible, absurd even.
Didn’t Tony Blair remove the mechanism for Treason?
Yes he must have seen it coming. In fact funny how he has suddenly disappeared again. I wouldnt be surprised if he is behind this!
Hsnging, drawing and quartering was on the statute book until at least the 1960s. The four quarters to be affixed to the walks of the four chief cities of the realm.
Who’s for a chunk of Wancock?
The pig dictator says the cheque is in the post and will start to arrive at Easter
I am very puzzled by your retraction of the statistics about ‘excess deaths’ in the USA. I spot checked the yearly total deaths on the CDC website itself, and it seemed to match to the digit….
I don’t know if this is a good source, but the CDC total deaths as at 21/12/20 is 2,823,030:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
But these data lag, according to the website. Even so, there would have to be at least 375,000 more deaths in the next nine days for the total to be 12% higher than 2019. Could Will Jones please explain?
If you add in another 60k per week for the missing weeks in that year’s data (6, in January, and rest of December), and bump up the last couple of weeks which seem likely to be affected by late reporting to 60k, which seems about the ballpark for December deaths, you get about the 12% increase we are talking about here (slightly more, actually, but these are likely over-estimates).
So the issue would have to be, how many of those are actually due to covid and how many to the response.
This is really really important actually – if Will Jones and the media are right, and the total US mortality in 2020 does reach about 3,200,000, then all of us sceptics are wrong, and the virus really has had a massive impact. I’m going to feel really ashamed admitting to everyone I know that I was wrong!
That depends on what you’re sceptical about. I’m sceptical about lockdowns, not denying that covid exists or has had an impact.
Hi Ellis – I like the name!
Lockdown causes excess deaths by people not getting medical attention, suicides etc..etc..
I’ve always believed the virus can be dangerous and I take precautions as much as I can(as I do with flu and so on) but I am strongly anti lockdown as I believe we should make our own choices while enabling vulnerable people to be protected if they wish. I don’t think it possible to control a virus and the height of Hubris to believe you can.
Why? We know the claimed covid death figures, what we don’t know without further analysis is how many excess deaths were caused by covid vs the government’s response to the virus.
For example if there’s 20% excess deaths in 30-40 years olds but they account for 1% of covid deaths then we can say they were sacrificed by the government on the altar of hysteria.
I was reading about a lady who died of covid who was denied medical attention for several days when she got pneumonia. she would most likely have survived with prompttreatment.
There are also a lot of other conflating issues in the USA though…obesity, poverty, the fact that you can’t seek medical treatment without getting a massive bill even with insurance…
Even if here have been lots of excess deaths I suspect they’re still older than average life expectancy and with multiple comorbidities. Whether the numbers are different between lockdown and non lockdown states is what we need to know.
C’mon, this is the USA we’re talking about – where obesity and junk food were invented and exported globally with glee. They’re always going to take the hardest hit with a respiratory pathogen, new or old.
Make yourself feel better and shut the shamers the fuck up by gathering them all round the tv for this jaw dropper…
https://youtu.be/vWRx1aZ5YoA
“If Will Jones and the media are right, and the total US mortality in 2020 does reach about 3,200,000, then all of us sceptics are wrong, and the virus really has had a massive impact.“
Less of the “all of us” please. A 12% increase in annual deaths where the average age of death is about the overall average age of death is not my idea of a once in a lifetime catastrophe that means we should all abandon our liberties, our economy and our societies out of fear, and hide under our beds. Rather it’s exactly the kind of situation where we should keep calm and carry on.
US excess deaths are at about 10% this year but, as I have said below, this is not the effect of the virus. The reason this is clear is that 57.65% of the excess deaths are in the under 75s age groups – 65,000 excess deaths between 45-64 years old – if it were COVID it would be no more than 25%
So clearly this is not COVID but something else – most likely the effects of the hysterical reaction to COVID on welfare, employment, poverty and cancelled medical care.
Not only are we right, but the reaction has killed huge numbers of people by itself. Aside from killing so much of the reason for living in the rest of us.
If US mortality is over 3.2m, that shows the evil of lockdown and the blood of those people is on the hands of those that gave rise to it, such as Fauci.
Not for nothing, a Wall Street Journal analysis suggest that upwards of ONE-THIRD of hospital deaths, early on, were due to aggressive intubation and excessive sedation. Read: panic.
From the main text.
‘Scientific advisers clamouring for new national lockdown’.
The experts parting shot on yesterday’s Jeremy Vine show was
‘. . .well yes Jeremy, it is partly a political response, the advisers wanted a harder lockdown over Xmas and the politicians have seized on (scary mutant) to justify it’.
Jeremy let it pass without further comment.
Yes, an inspired decision, really had a beneficial effect, eh?
hancock only takes advice from advisers who agree with him
Telegraph YouTube today
Wankok and his fellow thugs only notice the WHO data if it suits them.
Could be a useful point to put to semizombies, however
What makes my blood boil is if you take away the personal protection officers/SAS etc, these pussies would soon be partial to hearing alternative opinions.
They better hope this all goes to plan because if we can’t execute them they’ll be spending an awful long stretch as somebody’s girlfriend amongst a very willing and motivated new family.
From the NERVTAG document:
“It was noted that VUI-202012/01 has demonstrated exponential growth during a period when national lockdown measures were in place.”
They just admitted lockdowns are useless.
Anyone else fed up of the continual use of ‘exponential’ in relation to C-19? This type of rapid growth has never been seen throughout the pandemic in any setting or country.
It seems this mathematical formula, indicating rapid and accelerated growth is being used to create fear. Seemingly rolled out whenever a new lockdown or restriction is announced.
Will next years editions of dictionaries include the new meanings of Pandemic, Exponential and Vaccine ?
Anyone thinking of attending a demo should check out the YouTube channel of a solicitor called Neil Heffey. Lots of useful information in case you get arrested!
Coroner blasts COVID-19 death rates, calls data misleading
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM7XaALbhwk
Two of the covid deaths were from gunshot wounds
They have been lying about the actual cause of many deaths since before lockdown.
The key figure remains total 2020 mortality adjusted for lockdown induced suicide and death by NHS neglect both of which will rise long into the future.
Sir Desmond Swayne Interview Exposes BBC Hypocrisy As They Help The Government Hide From Scrutiny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQiNXFfbGa0
Is it any surprise the Neil the Knob never did stand down from giving crap advice to our useless leaders.
Morning
Captain Tom CANCELLED By Twitter Mob!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaR4C9rgsXE
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564421
Press release
Wales Tourist Board announce new initiative
A spokesperson said ‘,In these difficult times it important to support out tourist industry. We are there for turning the hole of Wales into a huge theme park
‘Stasiland 75’ will be a real life, real time, inmate centric experience for all the family
Special features will include police beatings, a despotic Marxist dictator, and daily propaganda announcements to give it that really authentic East German feel
The enhanced ‘Food and clothing shortage ‘ package will be available at no extra cost from early in terms new year
If you are booking for Christmas there are a few places on ‘ Get y
Apologies GCHQ have hacked my computer
They could reopen the coal mines to let the paying public watch captured sceptics slaving away for coal that nobody wants.
Coronacoal. Mutant coronacoal.
‘The hole of Wales’ is spot on. One great, big, horrible hole with a sadistic megalomaniac stalinist tortoise squatting over it.
I have nothing against genuine tortoises, I do assure you!
Everyday now.. with Boris in charge.. and the elite’s great reset/depression/fuck up affecting/hurting all around me.. I just keep thinking where would/could/should I tie the rope.. where is best.. not looking for ‘hang on in theres’.. just saying.
“Hang on in there” sounds about right for the rope thing! Sadly my flat doesn’t contain any suitable structures (I have checked thoroughly). Not as easy at it looks in the movies.
We’ll find a way.
From a tweet by Ben Bradshaw MP. Labour, Exeter.
He can’t even look right in a suit.
YouGov are claiming there is strong support for both Tier 4 and the Government’s scrapping of the relaxation rules. Absolute bollocks. There just isn’t! YouGov let slip their zealous stance in the summer.
I believe that there is massive support for Tier 4. People believe the bollocks because they want to believe. We are a remnant, and had better get used to it.
That’s still my impression as well. Though it’s not as bad as it was early on.
Too many people listen with apparent sympathy, make enthusiastic sounding criticisms of government, experts and policies, and can’t find arguments to respond to reason, but as soon as you are out of sight go back to meekly agreeing with the deluge of fear propaganda and blaming dissenters for the punishments inflicted by the regime.
And mask compliance is still near universal in the supermarkets around here.
I think thats very true. Unless you are a very committed sceptic its hard to stand up to the media onslaught and the enormous pressure to keep within the herd. As the young men who ended up going to fight in the First World War….and never came back.
Don’t believe anything YouGov says, their polls are always rigged.
Oh I don’t. It was founded by Nadhim Zahawi. Tory MP. Hardly impartial! Of course it will try to give the impression people are behind Boris.
People were behind Boris this time last year over Brexit. But now the true nature of the beast has been revealed, most of the people that were behind him would gladly push him off a very high cliff!
This is life in the DDR. The rules -as it were – are different now. The lies that can spaffed routinely over us are of a different order from the lies we were used to.
Sadly, Boris Honneker is more cynically and ruthlessly advised than Erich, and the regime is buoyed up by virtual international unanimity. There is no better life beyond the Iron Curtain.
it’s bit like the DDR being congratulated on building the Berlin wall
Especially now the idiot King of Sweden and his prime minister have decided to override Tegnell – the one free country has now also fallen.
There are no heroic countries, only heroes here and there.
To be fair to NERVTAG, the minutes from their meeting on Friday do not suggest that they had swallowed much of the “dangerous mutant virus” narrative. The minutes actually suggest a high degree of caution and scepticism, including comments like their being “moderately convinced” by PHE’s case, and their summary makes it clear that they felt they did not have enough data to form too many conclusions, and that they expected better data to be available within 7 days. (After all, we are led to believe that they were discussing this on Friday, only a matter of days before Hancock first raised it as a potential problem.) What SAGE and the government did to sex-up these issues between lunchtime on Friday and the PM’s press conference on Saturday would have made even Alistair Campbell blush!
They did such an effective job we now run the risk of mass starvation. Well done the psych ops/ nudge team give yourselves a fucking chocolate biscuit.
They’ve also succeeded in stranding British residents of other countries in the UK for the foreseeable future, since other countries are not letting people back in if they’re in the UK just now
. I no longer live in the UK, but thanks to Boris I cannot go home after Christmas as I will not be admitted – even if I get tested on arrival…
They’ll probably still pad themselves on the back or have ‘journos’ do that when millions have perished but ‘positives’ have started to fall.
We are clearly at the state of complete insanity having been reached with all major decisionmakers, ‘scientists’ and
‘journalists’.
Zero Vovid my a*rse.
Switch to the GBD. Now.
Look at its success on the ground, in reality, in Tübingen, FFS!
I fully agree. Reading the minutes, it was shocking to see that there was no alarmist spin in the notes at all. Very much caution in the interpretation. This is a self-made political disaster. There is no need to blame the advisors this time. Another Fergusson hate diatribe is just another deflection method used by the government through their press contacts.
Possibly, but the odious Ferguson has a face that I simply wouldn’t ever get tired of punching.
Even to imagine that cheers me up.
I don’t think there should be any doubt that this total balls up is totally this idiotic, unscientific governments decision. They have not got one single decision right. It is just out and out fear porn to keep people terrified. You are supposed to be in charge you are making decisions affecting millions of people and you only seem to get advice from one group of supposed scientists, then totally ignore and actively suppress anyone who counters your narrative. Well how is that science? The sun does not go round the earth……
The varus can get you within 45 minutes!
These people are psychopaths.
How the hell is Boris still PM? How the hell are the MP’s not demanding for parliament to resit?
You think the average Mumbler of Parliament give a s..t?
Sign the petition below and let’s force the poisonous little worms back on to the surface.
The problem is the Tory MPs who can do something about it just moan. We moan but can’t do anything about it. They moan but can, yet don’t! He should be removed for circumventing Parliamentary scrutiny. He does it time and again and they let him get away with it.
I am thinking to start a petition to call for BoJo et al to resign and the Tory Rebels to take over… who would sign?
Would rather someone like Sumption took over. Will NEVER vote Tory again, whovever took over from Boris
My ‘MP’, the former Attorney General, is earning nearly half a million quid a year for legal services (nice work if you can get it). So in effect he’s not an MP at all but a lawyer.
He doesn’t appear to give a toss about covid or even to know anything about it. Instead it seems he pays assistants a few scraps to regurgitate platitude and cliche when they can be bothered to reply to letters at all.
When looking for the villains isn this pantomime we mustn’t forget that there are about 600 of them in the House of Commons. And I don’t recall a squeak of protest coming from that other august institution, the House of Lords.
You think anyone else would be different? (Keir Starmer is worse.) There’s only one person in the world who said ‘No’ to any of this – Alexander Lukashenko
I sent this to Sir Graham Brady yesterday:
‘Some weeks ago I suggested that it was time for the ‘men in grey suits’ to be sent to Johnson and Hancock. It seems to me now that men in white coats may be more appropriate.’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXOwNOf2QXY
Just found a rare statement on-line that natural immunity to Covid exists. Boris won’t like that. Heads will no doubt have to roll at University of Lancaster.
“If you have tested positive for Covid-19 in the 90 days prior to your planned test, you are likely to have developed some immunity, and therefore taking a repeat Lateral Flow Test is not necessary.” Buried somewhere on this page.
https://www.uclan.ac.uk/students/news/student-covid-testing.php
Yes, this is what we’re told in the NHS where we have lateral flow tests twice a week. If you do test positive, its then “confirmed” by PCR, and after isolating you don’t have to do the test for 90 days. So this is widely known and underpins testing practice. Odd if Boris doesn’t know this.
COVID is not a disease. It’s an acronym for symptoms of coronaviruses – flu, the common cold.
More talk on the news about the NHS being overwhelmed, this issue raises a few points;
1, Since when did we agree that our human rights, civil liberties and hard won freedoms were a trade off with the NHS? I feel this is an important and fundamental issue and needs to be vigorously challenged. Any MP that does not feel this is not worthy of being in the so called ‘Mother of Parliaments’, by my reckoning this is most of them. The protect the NHS slogan seems more to be about politicians trying to avoid the public opprobrium that would come their way if the sacred NHS was perceived to be overwhelmed.
2, Are our hospitals organised properly? The figures on people catching Covid in hospital are backed up by people I know who report being in hospital and people around them catching Covid. Should there be separate ‘Covid’ and non-covid hospitals?
3, Why are people in hospital for Covid? At the height of the Spring first wave there were over 3000 people on ventilators but now, whilst hospital numbers are climbing the number on ventilator is much less, about 1300. I gather some Covid patients are receiving oxygen treatments but I doubt that is all of them. I do feel that we might have squandered the opportunity we had in the summer to develop effective treatments for Covid so that people would not need hospital admission. As serious covid is predominantly amongst older people I do wonder if the number of Covid patients in hospital is inflated by the so called ‘bed blockers’ i.e. old people who are too frail and fragile to be discharged even though they would otherwise be OK to go home?
There is a part of me that thinks it would be good if the NHS was overwhelmed, it might bring down a few politicians and it would beg a dramatic and long overdue reform of the delivery of healthcare in the UK.
You’re right, of course. My wife works at a local NHS general hospital where the staff are up in arms because they were not notified of a serious Covid outbreak in the Spinal Injuries Unit in November, which led a fatality. Presumably for cost reasons, modern hospitals like hers were rarely designed to promote infection control (for instance the corridors are too narrow to allow people to maintain effective social distancing when passing patients on trolleys) and the staff in adjacent departments felt that their health and safety had been compromise by the hospital’s failure to come clean over the infection in the SIU. (My wife contracted Covid-19 in November, presumably at work. Thankfully, she and I have both recovered fully.)
FFS you don’t catch a virus because the corridors are too narrow. This is the sort of messed up thinking that leads to people jumping out of the way of each other and facing the corners in the lift.
I just had an image of being on a trolley in a hospital being pushed through corridors and every one I pass is fiddling with their face masks, turning away, stepping into broom cupboards, and covering their face with their hand as I go past.
People are SICK.
Narrow corridors, ffs.
The real reason “the NHS is under threat of being overwhelmed by the covid”, as the BBC are constantly reminding us, is because of staff absences.
I reported last week of 1,000 absent staff from my large regional hospital either because they are ‘ill’, shielding or caring for shielding children sent home from school on some flimsy pretext so the teachers could go home.
Alex Belfied YouTube puts the National total at 90,000.
Government “the NHS is in danger of being overwhelmed” Remember the story about the boy kept shouting Wolf ! ?
As people arent tested until they reach hospital, there no way to segregate them before the results arrive unless they’re showing symptoms. Some hospitals have the luxury of single rooms but most don’t. Also people need to move through the hospital for xrays etc, and as we know, masks don’t work.
This time around, much more outpatient work is continuing, thankfully, which means large numbers of untested people coming in and out of the building.
Though many people would prefer to say NHS procedures are at fault, it simply isnt true, the above factors are the reason.
There is also a highly precautionary approach in primary care where people aren’t seen face to face, just sent into hospital. Our admission figures show a very quick turnaround with these precautionary admissions only staying a day or two as they are not unwell enough to stay on hospital. But it does mean admission figures are higher. Outcomes and length of stay also need to be taken into account.
Patients with prior appointments have to go to a special NHS only testing station the day before.
Inconveniently located nowhere near the hospital out beyond the by-pass.
Most reasonable folk (who understand the current realities) exercise the precautionary principle and go nowhere near a hospital without a genuine necessity.
NHS procedures are at fault, because the protocols based on PCR testing are at fault. If you are admitted due to any condition other than Covid, you will still be tested. And if you pick up a false positive, you will then be moved to a Covid ward, leading to your required treatment being compromised. And perhaps expose you to a real risk of virus infection. Hence the approximately 30% of Covid ‘infections’ (read PCR positive) being currently detected in hospital. But there is no way of knowing what proportion of these are real nosocomial infections. Probably just a small fraction.
This is the inherent uselessness of the PCR test. It really tells you nothing.
The sensible thing to do would be to conduct a lateral flow test immediately on arrival/admission, allowing for an immediately informed bed allocation, where admission is necessary. And back this up with a confirmatory PCR test at 30 cycles, if you really must.
I’m quite sure that many individuals who turn up at A and E with any indicative Covid symptoms are admitted for observation at least overnight, where again a quick lateral flow test would give a ready indication of infection status, and prevent unwarranted admission.
But any rational solutions that lessen panic or disruption are deliberately avoided.
The system is designed to fail.
“Are our hospitals organised properly?”
There are around 4,122 adult critical care beds in England. This seems a ludicrously small number of critical care beds for a country (England) with a population of 56,287,000 – a country with a relatively high median age. The system must be teetering on the brink of being “overwhelmed” the whole time. A feature, not a bug.
I sometimes wonder whether the cost of maintaining twice, three or ten times that number of adult critical care beds over the last twenty to thirty years would have been less than the amount we have spent this year on responding to SARS-CoV2.
There’s a lot to be said about specialist hospitals and convalescent homes which existed in the past but have now gone in the way of the dodo.
If we still had those I get the feeling that the NHS would have coped with this properly.
There is only a contrived crisis. Covid-19 is at a minimum 99% scam and it’s all being done so that people will volunteer for the genocidal vaccines.
Very good questions. I’ve been thinking along similar lines.
The NHS has been broken for many years. Both my wife and I have lived on the continent, in Belgium and France. Both systems are considerably better on many levels.
Back in March when we were told it was all about not putting the NHS under strain, my view was that the Tories/Al Johnson panicked that their inability over 10 years to face into the structural and funding issues within the NHS would be revealed. Many months on, I still think that is a large part of their political motivation for this shitshow.
It doesn’t matter what the structural or funding issues are in the NHS, there would still be a crisis because that’s what the government wants. The government’s wants us all injected with the intentionally genocidal Covid-19 vaccines and everything it does is to further that aim. It’s all preparation for the WEF’s Great Reset and UN Agenda 2030.
There would be just a fraction of the number of C-19 patients in hospital if HCO and Ivermectin treatments were not denied by as a political scam by the ‘government’.
Indeed, and no need for a vaccine.
Am I the only person who keeps thinking that it is not my job to keep the NHS safe it is their job to protect me. If they cannot do this then shut the fucking place down and come up with something that is fit for purpose. The amount you have spent on track and trace and furlough would have meant we could all have carried on as usual if you spent that money on hiring and training more nurses. The truth is most of the money spent on the nhs seems to go to people in suits that spend all day on computers and have no idea about anything to do with saving a life. Next to my old workplace was an NHS site filled with about 700 people all wearing suits and never leaving this building. I saw about one nurses uniform in the five years I worked there. Looking at their car park none of them were badly paid, what benefit do these people give to sick people?
“The figures on people catching Covid in hospital are backed up by people I know who report being in hospital and people around them catching Covid.”
How many people in hospital can you possibly know so that it can back up the statistics?
ICNARC, which is ignored by the controlled opposition, has never suggested that hospitals have ever been overwhelmed.
Covid-19 In A Nutshell
the NHS is a socialist monstrosity, even if it was funded properly it would still perform terribly. goes without saying that the staff are not the issue, the overall structure and management is. it is an international laggard and embarrasment, read Kristian Niemitz ‘ universal healthcare without the NHS’. no other country has a health system that’s population must protect it rather than the other way round. it is a disgrace yet worshipped. this populace has stockholm syndrome regarding the NHS , helped by relentless propaganda.
I’ve changed my mind, I’m now totally pro-lockdown. My mother-in-law has decided not to come to spend Christmas with us because Boris says so. Destroying the economy was worth it after all.
I think it is. I used to spend the entire Christmas period with gritted teeth as my mother-in-law took over my house, my husband and, far as possible, my life.
That said, I’d rather go through it all again than have Stalin Dungford telling me who can and cannot come to my house.
I love the, “I bought my mother in law a chair for Christmas, ungrateful bitch still hasn’t plugged it in.”
Ernie K. Doe – Mother-in-Law 1961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EN5eJf5h_k
Thank you for the Smalley & Oldfield document.
I have saved it on my PC.
Do we know when they expect to receive a response as I| think it will be a rare opportunity for scientific debate if they do and it can be published…or am I being too hopeful…still it’s Christmas whatever the Prime Muppet says.
Sally Oldfield Mirrors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-jzTSm-0hk
Kin ell remember that one?
“We are perfect”!
A theme tune for the Illuminate along with “Age of Aquarius”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjxSCAalsBE
This agenda has been in the pipeline for a LONG time.
Off topic, I remember seeing Mike when he performed side one of tubular bells, back in the day when the BBC was good. Don’t know if it was an ogwt special? The original shoe gaze, never looked up once. I think I’ll dig that out and have a listen.
I don’t think it was an OGWT, I think it was a one-off or maybe an arts programme like Arena if that existed in those days. I once went to a live performance of the orchestral Tubular Bells with Steve Hillage as the guitar soloist.
It was indeed a one-off special on 30th December 1973, a time when the world made sense. And Steve Hillage was one of the musicians (he’s wearing the pink and blue beanie) in that performance. Here’s the link
https://youtu.be/KXatvzWAzLU Enjoy!
I have run through the US death numbers up to week 46 (latest reliable figures) and the excess death rate, adjusting for population growth and ageing, is around 10%.
However, this is clearly not an effect of Covid, at least not the disease. But it is most likely the effect of the hysteria surrounding it – just read the New York Times any day to see an example.
The reason I say this so categorically ? 57.65% of excess deaths are in the under 75 age groups. If it were just COVID related it would be around 30%.
See yesterday’s roundup, San Francisco Chronicle reporting huge increase in drugs overdosing leading to many times more deaths than the inflated numbers for Covid.
Not surprising, just saw a video of a guy at muscle beach and golds gym in LA. All closed down and surrounded by a sea of homeless tents.
People used to live along the beaches of California in the 50s and 60s.
Most of their shaks were made from string, milk cartons and tin cans. Free rent.
10% though it within typical swings over decades. If it were 2 or 3 times more then that’s serious.
Ive uploaded yesterdays interview with Desmond Swayne (BBC Radio 4 – The Today Programme) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyB73rUvZMw&t
Thank goodness for the few MPs such as Sir Desmond still ready to put the truth out there.
Clearly he has no hope of advancement within this putrid government.
Why would anyone want to be a part of this farce of a government. He has consistently been talking sense.
Did you hear how the bbc presenter was batting for the home team. My god the quicker we can shut down all the bbc the quicker this will all end.
Breaking News: Mutant Ninja Turtle virus eats all our lettuce! Army called in to protect our sprouts.
Kale might be a minority interest but they still deserve our love and support.
Save our carrots!
I have never understood the fascination for sprouts so I am not particularly interested in saving them. I always insist on a Brexit Christmas dinner – no Brussels.
Same here!
Hear, hear!! No Brussels allowed in our house either.
Despite their name, they are seriously healthy things. A cabbage in miniature is your sprout !
Cook until just tender but not mushy, add some chopped roasted. chestnuts, toss in butter with a little black pepper. Yum.
The glorious Andrew Lawrence bas been busy on Youtube. Go and feast!
He’s a sanity saver! Wonderful!
Have been enjoying his stuff. A tonic for the nerves!
Morning regime to try and stem anxiety caused by Boris:
37mg Venlafaxine, 1g magnesium malate, 20g inositol, 6g glycine, 3g beta-alanine, 1g taurine, 1g acetyl carnitine, 500mg thenanine, high dose b-complex with methyl folate, 2g vitamin C… venlafaxine was much higher but it made me more ill…
Please stop the government hurting us.
Hibiscus tea will help,as will a daily B12 , magnesium gel and a daily teaspoonful of ground linseed.
I wouldn’t actually take any of the things on your list, although I appreciate that they are helping you, but my favourites are safer and recommended.
While I am sure that your advice is well intended, and I agree with your reservations about some of these drugs, I presume that these have been prescribed by a doctor and I think that people should listen to their GP rather than people they haven’t met on the internet.
Personally, I think solely listening to one’s GP is not a good idea. You simply cannot have a quality consultation in 10 mins anyway. And that was when face-to-face consultations were the norm. We all know the quick resort to the prescription pad syndrome.
Doing one’s own medical research online makes perfect sense to me.
More so now than ever.
I knew that immune-supporting Vit C, Vit D, and Zinc were ideal prophylaxis (not just for Covid) a very long time ago. No GP told me that.
Doing personal research is essential if you receive a cancer diagnosis, I believe.
You just need to exercise a critical and discriminating mind.
I am much more suspicious of the typical BBC line about not listening to those ‘charlatan selling supplements’
And if you read up about prescription inducements, opioid epidemics, Vioxx deaths and the like, you may reach a similar conclusion.
The pervasive (and often malign) influence of Big Pharma is real.
Quite agree,which is why my list of recommended remedies was posted: many years of experiencing horrible iatrogenic side effects ,led me to tackle hypertension, anxiety and depression by means of research and experiment.
It took several years and some false starts, but I got there in the end, and have no regrets.
This is by no means to indicate that I never believe doctors; I’ve been fortunate enough in recent years to have met some really good ones whose expertise benefited me, but they are,sadly, outnumbered by the less impressive and rather arrogant variety.
That is fair enough, but making medical recommendations online for someone you have never met can have unintended consequences. Your advice can be very good in general, but not necessarily for the particular recipient.
It’s advice, not a prescription and meant with good intentions. Advice can be accepted or ignored, depending on an individual’s judgement and experience.
Many of us on this site have exchanged advice and offers of help and support over the past months.
What, ’bout things like covid ?! Ffs.
http://www.horsdoeuvre.fr/oenologie/soignez-vous-par-le-vin
225mg Venlafaxine more-or-less works for me!
PG Tips works for me.
Try a hot-water bottle on the tum, it helps loosen those knots.
I’m on the 70mg of Venlafaxine for my CPTSD…still fell like shit most of the days..
a bottle of red wine does just as good a job!!
Speed
Lots of it
Has always knocked every virus on the head in the past
Even flu
Intravenous chilled Hydrazine in the morning does it for me every time.
Charles Walker MP with a scathing attack on the latest restrictions and those responsible;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJluyXUCY2Q
He has been a class act for the past few months.
Ferguson never ceased being a member of Sage. His name was never removed from the list of advisors on the Gov uk website, despite this list being updated during the summer. I wrote to my Tory MP several times over the summer months about the continued infatuation with Ferguson, all to no avail and no reply.
As this dismal,chaotic, dysfunctional year draws to a close, let us remember the architects of this horrendous melange: The Chuckle Brothers-(Whitty and Vallance); Dr Strangelove-(Ferguson,modeller extraordinaire); Shuttlecock-( Tears for Fears); The Sturgeonator-(the UK’s Tartan Nemesis); Dredgeford-(children’s toys and games verboten); Boris-(now you see him, now you don’t).
As for the sane voices in the Covid wilderness: Toby, Delingpole, Dr John Lee, Professor Gupta, Professor Bhattacharya,Professor Kulldorff, Professor Heneghan, Simon Dolan, Lord Sumption, Professor Levitt,Peter Hitchens,the AIER, Ivor Cummins, Dr Malcolm Kendrick,Dr Clare Craig, Sir Desmond Swayne and many more.
don’t forget cummings
Well said; I’d forgotten !
Keep adding to the list folks
Don’t forget Piers Morgan as well and the rest of the MSM who help got us into this mess.
The architects – the world banks, WHO, UN, IMF, WEF, Pharma, Bill Gates, etc…
Krankie fishface and devi my eyes always look evil but wait till you see me crunch out a smile sirdhar.
Burnham of Eyebrows.
Burley of Africa.
Calderwood of Fife.
Leech of honorary Doctorate (for what?)
Tedros Genocide.
Cresessida social shaming Dick of common purpose and De Menez.
Dear Boris,
I’ve supported your handling of the pandemic from the start, as without a lockdown the NHS would be over run and we’d all die.
I’d be very grateful if we could have more deaths from Covid-19 than I read about.
Could you ask Whitty, Vallance and Jean Claude Van Dam to model this?
I ask this because of the Mutant Ninja Turtle Sceptic Virus that has affected my neighbour, who refuses to keep 2 miles away from me.
Keep up the good work!
Verity Mollusc.
I read that in Humphrey Lyttelton’s voice. Thank you.
The regular cave-ins to the public sector NHS management/SAGE stooges is reminiscent of nothing less than the Heath government, but without the musical or yachting ability.
There is an easy to use litmus test as to whether overall all cause mortality has risen due to a raging mutant covvidy monster virus or due to government interventions using the public sector NHS monolith as a conduit.
If covvidy monster was to blame, mortality outcomes would have risen across the board in all areas.
If government interventions were to blame, mortality would be localised to areas of maximum deprivation, maximum economic and social vulnerability.
And, hey presto, what do we see?:
‘In England, the year-to-date (March to November 2020) mortality rate for deaths due to COVID-19 in the most deprived areas was 252.0 deaths per 100,000 people, this was nearly three times the mortality rate in the least deprived areas (89.7 deaths per 100,000 people).’
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/monthlymortalityanalysisenglandandwales/november2020
It would be interesting to apply the exact same litmus test to the U.S.A. to see if the result is the same…..?
You know it will be…….
This is the insight I come to this site for, wish there was more of it above the line.
Hot off the press. This is one of a slew of policy forums over at the WEF where unelected groups of “experts” and influencers are busy shaping our futures.
Its well worth researching the individuals and their origins to see the interconnected nature of all this.
This one is a real favourite with the govts because it gives an easy route to id passes and all the benefits that will bring .
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/12/how-can-essential-movement-of-people-and-goods-be-restored-during-covid-19-updates-on-commontrust-network/
and for anyone still doubting where the controlling hands are , here’s some background on the pass systems presently in play, oh and yes Mr Gates does figure quite highly along with a number of other well known personalities:-
https://humansarefree.com/2020/10/your-post-covid-life-will-be-controlled-by-track-trace-apps-funded-by-the-rockefeller-clinton-foundations.html
That’s exactly what this is about. It’s a way for governments to control us and for pharma and tech industries to secure profits indefinitely (at our expense). Bill Gates is moving his business-model to humans
Like his operating systems, the product can be replicated an infinite number of times, is easy to distribute, costs nothing to produce and a charge can be applied to the product that can be of any size and then updated can be rolled out indefinitely
Humans have been part of BG’s business model for almost forty years. He’s just diversifying his portfolio. Mickey Mouse OS.
Hack them.
It’s not surprising that the scientific advisors are coming up with more scare stories and projections. It’s in their interest to be relevant. You see the same thing with climate science.
Also these are modellers with few it seems having any grounding in industry and accountability. They just can’t wait to get in the media. And politicians are woefully naive about auditing models and method.
Hence we get this circle jerk of doom.
It would laughable if it weren’t so damaging.
I’ve long believed that this crisis has become showbusiness for psychopaths, ugly people and control freaks.
They’re now reluctant to relinquish their 15 minutes of fame.
Time for them to do an exit stage right.
An absolutely obvious point which one would think hardly needs stating.
I fail entirely to see how how anyone with a scientific or engineering background can’t see through this straight away.
One of the most humbling things as you get older doing science and engineering is that you really really know nothing in that much detail. And very often the minutae you worried about mean nothing in the end. Something else counteracts.
It’s like the surfing wisdom of “One day you’ll realise that you need to go where the wave takes you, not where you want to wave to go. And when you do you’ll have a much better ride”
I think engineers differ from scientists in that to the engineer it’s what works that is paramount. Whenever an engineer sees data, or a hypothesis, or a system, the question is always: what is the practical use of this? Sort of like your surfing hypothesis.
To view this shitshow from an engineering perspective is to see through it straight away.
But engineering has long been an unfashionable discipline and qualification.
There are no engineers on SAGE. I’m not sure there are any in Parliament
Steve Baker is a B. Eng., although appears to have concentrated on computing.
‘Relevance’ is not the name of the game. Wearing us down so that we accept new terms and conditions for life is what this is about – accept endless vaccines and immunity passports etc Something people wouldn’t normally accept
It’s a problem of focus. SAGE and the chuckle brothers see one problem, covid. They have no idea about cancer deaths, heart disease, liver and lung problems, unemployment, suicide, depression, obesity, firms going into liquidation. None of these things matter to them. It is supposed to be the grown ups that take this data, digest it and then look at the big picture and make the correct call. Unfortunately the grown ups are thick as shit and are letting these so called experts make the decisions.
To SAGE, their backers (read Gates and Wellcome), and their ilk, Covid is not a problem; it’s a not to be missed opportunity.
They know all about the collateral health damage, but they they disregard it.
Isn’t it patently obvious that this utterly inept government and its terminally hopeless advisers have manufactured the urgency surrounding this mutation and its rate of transmissibility in order to bolster their wider narrative and further justify their own actions? A narrative within a narrative.
Here we have yet another ad hoc argument thrown together by cretins in order to try to justify their behaviour and cover over their extreme cretinism. It’s narratives all the way down.
Please, tell me I’m wrong.
They’re still using the same tactics over and over again. Now its the Teenage Mutant Ninja Virus.
Sadly enough people have still fallen for their scam.
Teenage Mutanr Ninja Virus attacking the cheeldren this time.
Its funny how they seen to always trying to pin this on the kiddies since Day One.
When will they realise that it doesn’t happen that way?
Ineptitude and incompetence again. Funny how it’s happening all over the world.
They know what they’re doing.
You’re not wrong.
‘Bottled ‘air at £25 a pop, reminds me of the organic bottled water craze doing the rounds amongst celebs and yummy mummies a few years ago.
Fraudsters and profiteering make the most of the credulous: do your bit, stop the spread, wear a mask everywhere and follow the snake oil by buying purified bottled air.
Alternatively, be a heretic and breathe in, breathe out, without encumbrance. Much cheaper and proven to be effective over millions of years.
Reminds me of The Lorax
Racing towards 10,000 when the little s…ts at least have to respond.
Just listening to Mark Dolan on talk radio, not impressed! an enthusiast for more and more testing and likes Kier Starmer. His supposed sceptic comments sound a bit hollow to me.
Or perhaps after 9 months of this I have just got too hard line. I think I have come round to thinking that almost nothing justifies giving up our human rights, civil liberties and freedoms, once lost they are very hard to get back. I have tried to follow the data and the stats and the arguments but I have come round to the view that I am quite prepared for the hospitals to be overwhelmed, for dead bodies to pile up on street corners and for people to suffer long covid, none of it justifies lockdowns, loss of civil liberties and restrictions on freedom of movement.
One way or another Covid will pass away but it is going to be very hard to get back our rights, liberties and freedoms.
I agree. The science is just smoke and distraction.
Human rights have to come first, otherwise life has no value.
To Fascists and Stalinists, human life has no value.
No Steve don’t worry you are right. There has never been justification for any of this. The key is always How did they measure that? In my career I’ve seen so many people just fall for theory and models without actually looking at reality.
Because more often than not the solution is to make small adjustments and let the system take care of itself. A lot of intellectutals don’t like this. We need to DO SOMETHING!!!
And what happens? They fuck it all up and then stand back and say “well we didn’t know”
Manchester Evening News: Sacha Lord says Government has tried to place ‘gagging’ clause on his legal battle over pubs.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/government-tries-place-gagging-clause-19496449
“Much of the following list has been put together by data engineer Ivor Cummins, who has waged a year-long educational effort to upend intellectual support for lockdowns. AIER has added its own and the summaries. The upshot is that the virus is going to do as viruses do, same as always in the history of infectious disease. We have extremely limited control over them, and that which we do have is bound up with time and place. Fear, panic, and coercion are not ideal strategies for managing viruses. Intelligence and medical therapeutics fare much better”
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/lockdowns-do-not-control-coronavirus-evidence
Aaaaanndddd the march of the brainwashed continues:
My parents sent me and Mr Bart a lovely Christmas present so I left a message on the family Whatsapp to say thanks and asking how everyone was.
My dad replies but instead of asking how we’re getting on simply says “wear a mask and visor.”
Jesus wept. And this from a man who taught his daughters to question everything.
How the mighty have fallen.
I’m very, very angry and upset.
This is the most soul destroying aspect of the madness. Luckily, I’ve not got any close family who have fallen for the madness, but I’ve got plenty of friends who have. It makes me angry to see how they have changed, I’ll never be able to respect them again unless they acknowledge how insane they have been.
I think some of them now actively hate me for my stance on covid.
I have no illusions about people but it does hurt when friends and especially family reveal themselves for who they truly are and what they can become.
Mr Bart has said that perhaps my dad was trying to express concern in a clumsy way but its still inappropriate and patronising.
Like you, I think my family hates me for being a contrarian and a free thinker.
,Twas ever thus.
Agreed. Have a similar problem, although in the opposite direction. One of my Sons thinks that me and mum (and Aunt) are totally irresponsible and we should be isolating ourselves – not even ‘Bubbles’. Other Son is cool about it and accepts our position. Result split family.
Strange thing – and please do not class me as ‘New Age Conspiracy Theorist’, is that coincidently a National Institution that is close to the so called ‘Experts’ who are advising our puppet government, has its HQ in a building with a disturbing history. This URL may explain a bit-
https://iconicphotos.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/a-nazi-funeral-in-london/
Brings to my mind a 1972 BBC play ‘The Stone Tape by Nigel Kneale’
Not really into the paranormal, but feel some awe when in old churches etc. Well Nigel Kneale couldn’t have done any better in selecting a malevolent aura than the Nazis. Although, to be fair, even Joseph Goebbels may have drawn the line at demonising the Children.
Bottom line is how the hell can we get out of this? The opposition has the full force of the State behind it, and everything contrary to the State line is systematically being destroyed. No cure for the most deadly virus to emerge in history, anything that may be suggested like Vit’ D3, HCQ or Ivermectin is rejected as Junk / Pseudo Science and the product of deluded or fake commentators. Even the existence of an effective immune system that’s evolved over millions of years is sidelined as ineffective. We, the readers of site’s like this, have little say, if any at all. We speak to the like minded whilst forces including the 77th Brigade speak to the masses who OBEY. Unfortunately they are winning hands down at present – what’s the answer? Where’s the breaking point?
Goebbels had six children. He and his wife poisoned them in Hitler’s bunker before committing suicide themselves. The ultimate Fascist act.
But at least the poor kiddies weren’t made to wear knickers on their faces while they were alive.
They haven’t changed: duress has brought out their real face, be happy you have seen it.
It is a difficult one with long time friends, how can you respect them when they wont do any independent research and follow the MSM crap.
I’m in the same position with my friends, they are not the people I thought they were.
Yep – and me – and the more intelligent I thought they were = the less intelligent they’ve turned out to be iyswim.
I am lucky in that my Dad is also a sceptic, and I think my Mum is too really, but just struggles with the idea tat for the first time in her 63 years of life, breaking the law is the morally correct thing to do.
I’ve lost/am losing lots of friends over it, though. I simply can’t look at them in the same way anymore. No amount of facts and figure and empirical evidence changes their minds. Even worse, they won’t even bother t o acknowledge it most of the time. And I always make sure I only send highly reputable stuff, like the Amnesty International report, or UN reports into the impact on the 3rd world etc
That’s the funny thing. I come from a 3rd world country, my family still lives there but it seems to pass them by that the lockdown and restrictions are damaging the economy and lives with large scale prostitution, drug running, poaching and the others making a huge comeback.
When I pointed this out, their only reply was “but this is a global problem”
They’ve become no different to the upper MC Karens and Kevins here – “I’m alright Jack” and sod the rest.
Not a fan of the sacred herb then ?
Stay away from them. Sever all contact. It’s the only way.
Sadly you’re right. I’m done with them while this lunacy is raging. Let the chips fall and come what may.
I feel you…my mom called me again yesterday to check if we are all still healthy and alive ( my parents live aboard) because of this new mutant virus. I told her that it’s a bunch of BS ( 2nd time in 2 days!!!) and she said that it’s because people like me don’t wear mask and socially distance that this has happened. I hung up, I will not call them for Christmas, I’m done with them for a while.
You mum sounds like my mum because I can guarantee you that’s what she’ll say too.
Won’t bother to contact them for Christmas either especially as its always a palaver to call them. Like you I’m done with them for a while.
I’ve fallen out with several over this. Must be one of the worst things to come out of this.
Exactly. When this is over you can bet that these people will go “it’s time for healing, let bygones be bygones.”
To which I will say no.
Never forgive. Never forget.
No. I fear it will never be over though.
It might never be over but the bridges my ”friends” have burned down with me because I’m a conspiracy, covid denying, anti masker, ant vaxxer, anti life, want old people dead ( all of this was said to me, with no shame) will remain burned forever. They say you know who you friends are in a time of despair so fuck them!! I’m so angry it’s not even anger now, it’s just pure rage all the time.
Bin the bastards off.
Matt Ridley is a very good read in the Telegraph.
Summarise?,Paywall.
The Twelve Days of Christmas carol,for 2020:
On the One Day of Christmas
My rulers said to me-
Do not share your cutlery.
On the One Day of Christmas
My rulers said to me
2 metres for safety.
On the One day of Christmas
My rulers said to me
Make the most of your misery.
On the One Day of Christmas
My rulers said to me
We will never set you free.
Oh little town of Bethlehem
How still we see you lye
All locked down ‘gainst the Covid
To make sure you don’t die.
We the sages of Covid are
Spreading gloom we traverse afar
Schools and retail,homes and businesses
Lighting the fearsome fire.
Sir Colin Davis ‘The Spirit of Christmas’. London Symphony Orchestra, John Alldis Choir. Forty-seven glorious minutes of great Christmas tunes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TpPOhnw2V8
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Do politicians care about the fact they’re destroying the UK?
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No because they’re sitting on their arses on full pay plus expenses and the prospect of a pension when they leave.
Take all of that away and cut their pay to minimum wage and I can guarantee you, they will do a U turn faster than you can say “Tier 4”
Bizarrely, I think there are quite a few who think they are mad enough to believe they are saving it, after all even Hitler and PolPot thought they were doing the right thing in their own minds.
Yes and stalin was probably a nice guy once you got to know him…
No.
BBC R4 Today Programme
Martha “So should the rest of the country be preparing to go into tier 4 after Xmas Home Secretary?”
Question avoided but not denied by Priti Patel.
….which means it is likely this is the plan
Having Tier 4ed in honour of the dreaded mutant, and admitted that the dreaded mutant is everywhere, what else can the regime do? You can’t expect them to give up on Tier 4, can you? That would just look silly.
For confirmation we just need Gove to explicitly deny it.
Another massive useless disappointment is our Priti.
Priti shiti.
Preliminary estimates for UK government public accounts for November are out today. Tax receipts are now consistently coming in at less than half of spending.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governmentpublicsectorandtaxes/publicsectorfinance/bulletins/publicsectorfinances/november2020
Come friendly bombs fall on
Sloughthe UKAn entire herd of elephants trampling around the governmental room, largely unattended.
National Debt now at £2.1 Trillion.
BBC R4 News
On the law of unintended consequences…
My OH is a snr HR manager in an organisation employing just under 10k (yes we’re both public sector but don’t bash us, there are as many skeptics here as anywhere).
Anyway, his observations have made me realise that we will not escape this testing trap until employers start to treat pseudo-covid illness the way they treat actual illnesses.
Even when employees are given full pay for being off ill, there is still a system of limits, trigger points, meetings, forms, warnings etc that are degrading enough to deter most people from taking the piss. Plus if your kids are off sick you have to take annual leave etc.
With covid people are getting a free pass with all of this. It’s just recorded as “special leave”. Not too unfair you might say if you believe this is an actual pandemic.
However, the problem arises with essentially rewarding people with paid time off for complying with this track&trace/PCR/self-isolation nonsense. My partner reckons there are a lot of people actively “chasing” so called “contacts” with “infectious” people so that they can get paid time off. It’s an obvious lure if you’re a stressed working parent trying to juggle everything or just fancy a few days of not waking up to an alarm clock.
Add on top that there is a £500 payment from the Gov to isolate too if you’re on a low income and it makes the problem more obvious.
Once covid is treated like flu again by employers then there is little incentive to comply.
There are a myriad of elements to this confected crisis that need dismantling. This being just one. Just goes to show, convergent opportunism is not exclusive to those dishing out billion pound contracts.
Indeed. We are aware of several people who, having been told they must work in Christmas week or between Christmas and new year because they weren’t quick enough putting in a leave request have now supposedly got someone with Covid in their household and have to self isolate. One such was even spotted out in his car at the weekend!
Ha, the same happened where my wife works. Someone in the office went for a test, they asked my wife if she was concerned and if she would like them to call her if the result was positive.
‘No thanks’ was her response, but there were some people who were very keen to know, no doubt the prospect of 2 weeks off over Christmas was a factor!
I’m sure he was just testing his eyesight.
This has become a god send to mailngerers and hypochondriacs and unfortunately its yet again the responsible who have to bear the brunt when the work place is short staffed.
The cobra effect.
“The British government was concerned about the number of venomous cobras in Delhi. The government therefore offered a bounty for every dead cobra. Initially, this was a successful strategy; large numbers of snakes were killed for the reward. Eventually, however, enterprising people began to breed cobras for the income. When the government became aware of this, the reward program was scrapped. When cobra breeders set their now-worthless snakes free, the wild cobra population further increased.”
I think someone might have posted this before, but I couldn’t find a reference in my database.
Somebody did, but it’s worth repeating.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9077163/Chris-Whitty-says-Covid-hospital-cases-match-April-peak-New-Year.html
At least 95% comments are sceptical but I wish Whitty and Vallance would just fuck off
And take Van Tam with them. Whatever happened to Jenny Harries. Did she refuse to go along with the bollocks?
BBC still touting witty and valance as the fount of all wisdom
Yawn
When we start to see that in the Mirror and it’s local Politburo spin offs then we are getting somewhere
Not just ’stay at home’ – residents of other countries who are currently in the UK, are being prevented from returning home….
The only certainty for me this week is that late on Christmas Eve various SAGE members will issue alarmist statements to the media in a deliberate attempt to cause maximum misery on Christmas Day. They know it will cause division in families who have got together. They know what they say damages mental health. They enjoy breaking people’s spirits. They enjoy the power they now have over people.
I suppose if you can predict this along with roughly what they will announce …and you were to tell enough people
it should lower their abilities to cause division and minimise the overall intended damage to be inflicted upon us
Here’s a prediction:-
‘Ring of steel’ bollocks around the M25
a.k.a. a traffic jam ?
Mass vaccination opportunity?
First, may I say I’m lukewarm about the covid vaccination and I read the new variant as exaggerated and likely less harmful. It could even bring herd immunity, more quickly.
But, with the important proviso that vaccination must be entirely voluntary, and that the Oxford vaccine gets approved and is effective against the new variant covid….
Then, the opportunity exists to get the army to set up mass vaccination centres and do most of the population in a month. In January.
It could be the quickest way to something approaching normality.
I doubt manufacture could be that rapid.
I’m not having the vaccine at any price, but I see you agree it should be voluntary.
How can people give informed consent when they have been subjected to a year long miss information campaign specifically designed to raise their level of fear?
I whish there is a filter button, so I don’t have to read such government propaganda as posted above
You are killing it this morning, Andrew!
Perhaps. But even if it was medically justifiable, sensible and logistically possible (which it isn’t), it’s the last thing they would do. A return to normality is simply not on the agenda.
The future is constant repeated vaccinations ad infinitum. And masks and social distancing.
The promised land will always remain out of reach.
I was immediately suspicious of the apparent commitment to no discrimination on the basis of vaccination status.
Now I suspect they will attempt to skin the cat, by setting a vaccinated percentage target of perhaps 80 or 85%, in order to cause maximum societal division for as long as possible (or as long as is necessary to implement the WEF, World Bank agenda)
Who will think of the children ?
BBC R4 Today Programme two pronged attack asking both Priti Patel and Professor Edmunds what they are doing in light of
‘it seems the new variant affects children more’
But without any evidence whatsoever.
I expect a table in a SPI-B document reads ‘ introduce new variant scare to further control individuals targeting esp. young and destroy all ages spirits to a better degree Collateral: depression (quick fix increase wealth sale of happy pills), suicide.’
I’m sure the next target for fear porn is going to be schoolchildren. Testing, excluding and even at preschool level. They’re coming for the children!
“ Kill a Granny” needs to be replaced as it’s got stale. Not enough grannies are dying. Enter a new strain of virus, that will do to scare for a week or two at most. The most ridiculous and hateful thing this week has been my grandson aged 4 with severe disability being told to isolate for ten days as a child tested positive in his nursery Try entertaining him stuck indoors with no let up. Inhuman!
“Why Many Bosses Won’t Require Workers to Get the Covid-19 Vaccine”
But there will be a cash incentive!! No amount of money would induce me to have this vaccine.
‘unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work, required care from doctor or health care professional’
Is that a polite medico way of saying they are in coma
Wait for the reactions to the second dose – all predicted by the doctor group in the US a few weeks ago (their equivalent of the BMA). I wonder what the stats look like here, given that we are two weeks ahead of the US in rolling out this vaccine – strangely quiet since the two nurses suffered anaphylactic shock?
Regrettably, we will only get to hear about any outrageous numbers of any specific serious reactions that are difficult to pass over.
The ‘not necessarily attributable’ and ‘correlation does not mean causation’ playbook will be used. As it always is with vaccines.
If 100k really have already been vaccinated, there will have been circa 2800 serious adverse events, but we won’t hear about that.
Not quite. These are Grade 3 SAE’s (serious adverse events).
FDA uses the following classification:-
Grade 1 Mild; asymptomatic or mild symptoms; clinical or diagnostic observations only; no intervention indicated–
Grade 2 Moderate; minimal, local or noninvasive intervention indicated; limiting age-appropriate instrumental ADL–
Grade 3 Severe or medically significant but not immediately life- threatening; hospitalization or prolongation of hospitalization indicated; disabling; limiting self care ADL–
Grade 4 Life-threatening consequences; urgent intervention indicated.–
Grade 5 Death related to AE.
https://www.fda.gov/media/84954/download
This grading system is pretty well universally used in clinical trials, with some minor differences in terminology, depending on jurisdiction.
All these events are thus ‘serious’ or ‘severe’.
And note that most or all of these are a result of jab 1; the booster is yet to come.
And Grade 1 and 2 is not even considered worthy of a mention.
The Moderna vaccine has a much higher rate of Grade 3 SAE’s. Perhaps 5 times higher….
When scanning a clinical trial report, always look for the toxicity profile and in particular the percentage of SAE’s Grade 3-5. These are often lumped together so you cannot tell how many there are of each grade.
Obfuscation is the name of the game.
“London’s New Year’s Eve fireworks to be replaced by live TV show of 2020 highlights”
People will be having their own displays. Plans underway.
What fucking highlights??!! Fuck them, fuck them to the moon and back!!
This is going to be the worst TV “program” of 2020. It’s going to be the most nauseating torrent of foetid effluent ever seen on British Television.
Really. Fuck the BBC to fuck and back again.
I avoided SPOTY on that basis.
Don’t know if anyone caught it?
Fireworks will be going off in the neighbouring public park that will be blamed on ‘gangs of youths’.
Our response to the clear push for yet another ruinous and futile lockdown should be, “third time lucky”. We have nothing to fear. It is ‘they’ that keep rolling the dice in the hope of a different outcome.
Every new lockdown brings more people to our side.
Once the myth of lockdown efficacy is busted, then I will return to engaging the opposition with cold, hard judgement. For now, they can have it their way.
And destroys more livelihoods in the process.
They can own that
Some of us on here welcomed LD2 as it might get pushback.
I had a heartening conversation with a friend yesterday who has slowly been coming over to the sceptic side.
We’ve been discussing the futility of lockdowns etc for a while, but he’d still talk in terms of case numbers in other countries and covid being ‘bad’ in this place or that place.
Well, yesterday he finally came out with something roughly along the lines of, ‘the whole thing started with the wrong premise, this is a really low fatality level virus. Everything we’re doing is a waste of time.’
What unblocked his penny-chute?
We know the government have declared war on us but they have now clearly declared war on nature, even when nature is actually trying to help us. It’s no surprise when our leader and his scientific Wormtongue Ferguson both obviously have God complexes.
Hobbit-bows twanged and Wormtongue fell dead.
Bring it on.
Asymptomatic Spread Revisited
https://www.aier.org/article/asymptomatic-spread-revisited/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Well written article. More proof its all bolloc#s.
From the NERVTAG document:
“It was noted that VUI-202012/01 has demonstrated exponential growth during a period when national lockdown measures were in place.”
Between September and early December it rose from 1 known case to 1108, I believe. NERVTAG defines that as ‘exponential’!
NERVTAG admits “Lockdowns are completely pointless”.
NERVTAG makes me think of TAGNUTS
and of course their counter part
Winnets and Dangleberries.
I wish they would define ‘exponential’….
They are always using it incorrectly.
Not sure if already posted
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9077385/Firms-start-work-freedom-passports.html#comments
..and to think they called us conspiracy theorist when we said this was coming
It’s damn incompetence, I say!
as discussed here yesterday
https://dailysceptic.org/2020/12/21/latest-news-230/#comment-314628
“Stories are rife that the NHS and travel companies are considering a change to their terms and conditions of employment or of carriage to require persons to have the vaccination. To do so is not informed consent but ‘consent obtained by coercion’. In the 1920s case Hodges v Webb it was established that ‘coercion’ is a ‘negation of choice’. This is not acceptable in society and is a fundamental breach of Article 8 human rights and yet it seems possible, even likely at times, that there will be a coercive element to Covid-19 vaccination in Scotland.
The decision as to whether to take vaccine is entirely personal. If satisfied on the balance of risks that you would wish to give informed consent to a Covid-19 vaccine, you should be free to take it if offered. However, it must follow that if you are not satisfied, then you are entitled to refuse. Truth, quality data and education are always to be preferred to coercion when it comes to medical consent.”
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/your-right-to-refuse-the-covid-jab/
From Mike Yeadon
“So, you’re being lied to, it’s not for your benefit. Stand up together & say “No more!!”. (Source: https://threader.app/thread/1341076238350372865)
More excellent comment from Mike Yeadon.
”Tell those around you that you’ve had enough now. Stand up, take if your ineffective masks & ignore the rotten falsehoods being thrown at you constantly. These are the governments own figures, nearly installed into a format easy to appreciate.It’s time to say it’s not OK. It’s not OK to be leaving people to suffer & die at home. It’s not OK to see families, communities & our nation destroyed. Please stand up & share this with everyone you know & ask them to do the same. There’s just time, maybe, if we all stand up.” (Source: https://threader.app/thread/1341182904450297858)
The graph is blank
Mike Yeadon
”Not sure what’s happened at WHO but I strongly recommend you don’t let any A-level biology students see this lot of chuff. It’s factually wrong in numerous ways.”(Source: https://threader.app/thread/1341171224664272896)
Sod them.
I winjt stay at home, I don’t give a fart for antisocial distancing, and I won’t stop living.
End of.
When people ask “why would the government do this to the country”think on this, lockdown has to be seen to work because the alternative is that they wilfully killed tens of thousands of the most vulnerable, by chucking them into care homes, lockdown has killed 500,000 people, atomised the country socially and economically and it has actually made everything considerably worse. Covering up that shower of shite provides quite an incentive.
How would you explain the 4 week lockdown in Germany.There were very few deaths in care homes there in the spring.Yet they are now in their 3rd lockdown as well.No mutant strain either.Please wake up and smell the police state that is being instituted under the cover of Covid across the once free world.
P.S. Sky just reported a new national lockdown in the New Year.We are gradually being conditioned to accept the new normal we were promised.
This is a worldwide fascist coup
Keep going nutter.
Cmon John P. That was a bit harsh. You don’t like it when people are sharp with you do you.
Yes, but that’s been the case since March. Even a completely cynical prime minister with half a brain and the will could have found a way out by now.
The Chinese approach, of simply declaring victory, has always been open.
Yes indeed.
I’ve signed but what is the point, they’ll pass through anyway…
Haven’t heard any news for ages. Has drakeford passed any new laws for me to break?
This week he imposed a 16% stamp duty on second home sales
Makes a change from burning them.
66% if the purchaser is English.
you are joking presumably?
Posting on any counter narrative media has been outlawed. £1000 fine.
really?
Swine, I can’t afford to pay a £1000 fine and buy a second home. Foiled again!!
Crazyily read that as – has Drakeford passed away.
Sharing Christmas cheer this morning.
My ole son’s a rapist
He wears a rapists hat
Suspected of a Paedo too
Makes me a Rapist’s Dad
oi
I know you think this is clever, but IMO this smear is as disgusting as the man you are attempting to smear.
Can’t be a smear if it is factually correct and proven in court
John, are you on a bonus for every pushback post?
Britons arriving in Germany have been separated by the local police from other EU narionals and made to sleep in cattle trucks.
This discriminatory triage will of course be much more efficiently achieved when all Britons carry new blue passports.
Until that time arrives the outright travel ban, as a precaution against hyper-infection, should continue in full effect.
They could just re-route the cattle trucks straight through to Auschwitz.
https://www.dw.com/en/new-covid-strain-uk-travelers-held-at-german-airports/a-56006536
Anybody reading this must see the insanity. German citizens going through without test. Non German residents waved through allowed to take a PCR test later. Others to stay at airport to be tested.
There were good reasons for all recommendation in the WHO flu pandemic guidelines from Oct 2019 incl. not advising border closures etc during a pandemic. Every day a new evidence what a catastrophic world-wide decision not to follow the flu pandemic guidelines.
Look who started yougov – none other than the vaccines minister:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouGov
and his partner who was involved with the government “to maximise value of data for users across the UK”:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephan_Shakespeare
No surprise they manipulate there results then.
A ray of light in an otherwise bleak winter. We recenty moved to a new area and a few weeks ago we were informed that there would be carol singing outside a certain house. We turned up last night expecting to see it cancelled due to tier 4. But no. the whole street had turned up and we sang carols for an hour. Felt very emotional!
Years since a sang carols, totally forgot the words to all of them apart from the one where shepards wash their socks at night.
Did a little bit of that myself recently. Roving carol singing. Seemed to bring a lot of cheer to people.
Just posted in the forum, in case anyone wants to sing some carols in London on Christmas Day.
This is how you stick it to the Coronatarian state
a win is a win however small
Had a visit form my niece who lives in Essex last night. She drove to London to drop of presents for my daughter. The sad thing is that she had to go at night so her mother ,my SIL would not find out as she is a complete lockdown fanatic. She stood outside my house and after a while asked if it’s ok if she gives me and my wife a hug. I hugged her and started crying..What have they done to us, I could not sleep which is nothing new but this is just getting to much. I told her that she can come and see us anytime she wants, no matter the imagined Tiers. She promised she will try but apparently her mum is completely nuts. My wife was crying as she feels her sister is beyond saving now. What a great year
Oh god I feel for you, bought tears to my eyes. Nobody should be made to feel the most fundamental rights as a human being, the right to comfort others is somehow forbidden. What have we become.
sickening that people are affected in this way.
Glad i am a miserable sociopath so all this lockdown farce doesnt make any difference to my non- christmas
You’re there for your niece to hug, Tom. Well done you !
So the BBC after years of favouring lefty woke and unfunny comedians on all its shows now extends this to their own scripted shows
following last weeks politicised (and unfunny) Vicar of Dibley where the fat vicar character takes the knee in support of the BLM terrorists, just watched last nights Upstart Crow. At the start i thought maybe a bit of satire about covid given its setting in a shakespearian plague year, and there was some , but it ended up quoting the WEF policy of restart. but then again .. it is Ben Elton .
And tonight some spoof drama about a ‘Polytechnic’ drama society. Yes a nice dig at those who had a proper technical education. Thanks for that, BBC luvvies
A technical education can lead to approaching problems in a logical manner. Beware.
Funny that. All of my siblings did university degrees. I didn’t – I went to an Instititute of Technology and did a professional accountancy qualification.
All of my siblings are lockdown supporters who emote their way out of any discussion – I am a lockdown opponent who argues based on facts.
I thought the Lockdown Crow was pretty good. Taking the piss out of the Covibollox.
It was funny at times. But it was not written from a sceptic point of view.
as i said , there was some satire about the sheeple but overall it wasnt sceptic and the final couple of minutes about failing to take the opportunity to change and save the world was WEF stuff. Which is the message the viewer is left with .. So BBC does it again .
WTO is Robert West banging on about? Huget societal and economic cost without a further lockdown. It’s fucking SAGE their bloody incompetent and power crazed scientists and a grossly incompetent arrogant Govt that has already caused this. Wancock’s massive lie to Parliament leading to massive intl blowback has already been trashed by WHO and other reputable scientists. Yet rather than admit they made a mistake they carry on pushing the narrative.
They are simply following the Agenda like good little soldiers.
To the best of their ability. Which isn’t much. Time to poke holes in their leaking dike and let the flooding begin. Glug! Glug! Glug!
The NWO is on shaky ground because they are using people that, although they fervently support the objectives of the NWO, they were not properly trained to implement the strategy at a hundred percent efficiency rate. It is now time to destabilize these bungling idiots in every way possible before they Get Smart.
If the sheep think Boris, Nikolai, drakeford and the others are running the show they are very much mistaken.
These are the people ruining our lives
https://www.inclusivecapitalism.com/
I thought I imagined a ste comment yesterday, now I see another! Be gone won’t you?! We need to know at least one skeptic is out there red nosed, party hat on and up to their neck in reindeer droppings and presents! You are that skeptic. Fulfil duty and take a high level christmassy break.
So how does this organisation control our nations’ leaders, do you think? And how does it sit in the wider picture with the WEF? Genuinely interested in how people think these vested interests bring influence to bear.
It’s called having a fertile imagination.
John, I share your view that that we should be holding our own political leaders to account rather than letting them off the hook by painting them as helpless pawns. But I am still interested in different viewpoints. I don’t believe that everyone is in on it, but I am interested in how others believe that manipulation takes place.
I’m sorry Charlie, but I’ve had enough of it.
It’s bad enough having to deal with the Boris Johnson clown show every day without having to read this “WEF” stuff every other comment on here.
I don’t buy into it and I’m not going to buy into it.
The only people Johnson is being led by are his own advisors in SAGE and NERVTAG. But that’s too obvious for the WEF nuts on here.
It is the likes of Whitty, Vallance, Van Tam and Ferguson that we should worry about. People with ACTUAL known influence. Not faraway globalists like Claus Schwab whose influence is doubtful.
But at the end of the day it is the law that determines who is in charge
And that can only mean citizens of this country. Our these days very much abused sovereign parliament and MPs.
Just skip over it, John! I don’t buy it either because no one has yet explained the mechanics of this shadowy influence but I am interested in why other people believe what they do about all sorts of things. I have learned a lot in life by listening to opinions that differ from my own, even while maintaining my original position. I am sorry if that upsets you but it doesn’t change your right to hold your own opinions, nor mine.
Being confident in your position and entertaining other seems like it’s a really good thing. It’s not defensive but inclusive and tolerant. I like it.
I agree. Kudos to Charlie Blue
I’m not sure if I’m going to answer your point or not here. I would say that the link posted by calchas is not a bad place to start.
A few years ago I wasn’t even aware of the so called “Deep State”. In the last 9 months or so I have looked into a lot of articles about COVID, which inevitably lead down the “conspiracy” route.
As many have said, whilst you could perhaps excuse the initial response, there have been so many nonsensical decisions based on manipulated stats (“cases”. death count, second wave, new strain), not to mention the aggressive censorship of anything counter narrative. So if it can no longer be explained by incompetence, then there must be an agenda. Given that the “New World Order is no secret, and is the brainchild of the WEF, it makes sense to me to look in that direction.
What some people maybe don’t realise (or perhaps just don’t believe) is that the central banks basically control the world’s finances due to fractional reserve banking i.e. creating money out of nothing. Thus pretty much all governments are in debt to them. If one accepts that, then it’s logical that the banksters pull the strings.
To me that explains a lot of things, which admittedly drift into conspiratorial waters. If there was an agenda to get rid of Trump, which seems entirely plausible, there is an obvious motive – that he wasn’t going to roll over and let the Deep State take control. Also, when I look at Boris et al spouting obvious bullshit, I wonder how they can do it with a clear conscience. Well maybe it’s because they have no real choice. They are being controlled and can’t realistically do anything else.
My own readings took me down the path of “who are the deep state” and when you look into this it does make sense, to me anyway. There are lots of links around, quite a few are a bit extreme but here are a few. I’m not saying I know it all, or even believe it all, but Charlie Blue seemed to want to start a sensible debate (which I applaud), and for me it has been educational to read stuff like this.
This type of commentary demonstrates to me that there is indeed a “shadowy influence” and explains clearly how they are in control
http://finalwakeupcall.info/en/2018/08/22/the-banksters-control-the-world/
This one is long but interesting, especially from 1913 onwards: https://humansarefree.com/2013/07/the-complete-history-of-the-house-of-rothschild.html
https://in-this-together.com/how-banksters-rule-the-world/
Influence $$$$$$$$$$$
Disagree. They all have connections with the U.N., World Health Organization, Johns Hopkins, CDC, the World Bank, the IMF, Global Health, the Pharma Cartel. They all feed off each other and they posses thousands of networks and zillions of dollars to spread their messages. SAGE, NERVTAG and all the other think tanks and advisory groups are being funded by the all the aformentioned organizations. None of these organizations would exist, nay survive, without the theft of taxpayer monies across the globe to support their nefarious schemes.
Oops! forgot not in not exist.
Whats imaginary about the WEF/UN agendas? It’s all out there in the open.
Not speaking for John, but my question is not whether these agendas exist (they surely do), but if everyone is in on that (i.e. our political leaders) then how and why is that the case.
If people are following an unstated agenda, CB, you can hopefully see that they would be publicity averse (to say the least !).
I am truly sick of their “it’s all planned” bollocks.
THE LAW
This country is run by a sovereign parliament.
NOT BY CLAUS FUCKING SCHWAB.
Kevin McKernan is the PCR guy that ‘Swedenborg’ has posted about.
He thinks that the work on the Drosten PCR must have begun in November 2019.
“So how does this organisation control our nations’ leaders, do you think?”
IT FUCKING DOESN’T CONTROL THEM !
They – our nation’s leaders – are in control.
Swiss bank accounts can do wonders for the level of control involved.
You previously mentioned being an accountant – not very good at spotting red flags which would suggest that there is something else going on in the background that you haven’t been told about, are you?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/world-bankimf-exposed-covid-aid-conditional-imposing-extreme-lockdowns-curfews
But the uK is not on the list of nations that have been part of this scheme. They are listed on the IMF website. So what’s the mechanism here?
It is merely an example of how these things work.
Clearly the IMF wanted to bring Belarus on board.
Obviously, a much larger country like the UK is much more central in the whole affair, and is itself one of the larger contributors to the IMF.
THere would be no point in pressuring Belarus unless countries like the UK were already ‘with the program’
I draw your attention to the UK’s outsize contribution both to the WHO – at 7.7% – and of course to GAVI.
OH FUCK OFF
Having a good one again John
I’m sure they don’t us well, and are probably contributing in some way to this disaster by pushing certain strands of thinking. But I don’t see how it’s plausible for them to “running the show”. None of us can know for sure – so how roughly do you see this working, stefarm?
No one can know anything for sure, but I am certain that a group who have assets of $10 trillion and are leaders in companies that employ 200 million people in 163 countries worldwide are doing a little more than ‘pushing certain strands of thinking’.
One example from the website: ‘The growing market for digital gig work is also creating new ways for workers in places like India and sub-Saharan Africa to access and participate in the global economy.’
To me that sounds like a good way to drive employment away from those now working from home in the UK, doesn’t it?
On a micro-level, look at how the selective employment and promotion of those who fit the profile within the universities has turned them into Equality and Diversity central, which then, in subsequent years, leaks out into the public discourse as these places produce indoctrinated graduates. If you have the money and the people, you can implement a change in culture over a number of years, and this reduction in human freedom has been in the pipeline since they started wheeling out the man-made climate change story.
I too am against seeing one grand narrative or one group sitting above all (it is entirely more likely that these psychos have power struggles amongst themselves), but as time goes by I don’t see how incompetence and arse-covering can be a compelling explanation for Covid here; they could have called the whole thing done in the summer if that were the case.
And for John, just because ‘leaders’ are manipulated by powerful groups (a situation found throughout history, at least as far back as the Roman Republic) does not mean they are immune morally or legally.
Agree with you totally. To me the exaggerations around COVID are not credible and are paper thin. Mike Yeadon (and others) have easily “debunked” pretty much all the propaganda, but 99% of the counter narrative is either censored or shadow banned by “fact checkers”, or at a minimum, it’s not publicised.
“they could have called the whole thing done in the summer” – or even earlier. So why didn’t they?
In the absence of any sensible reason, the only thing I have left is that it’s a drive towards globalism. It seems to me like the Deep State, via the politicians, are testing how much they can get away with, and so far it’s a lot. They will keep restrictions in place for as long as they can ,and add more, until such time as people realise what’s happening. But based on what I see, the majority of people will never see it
Very interesting indeed. And even more so since JohnP has responded to you as he has.
Yeah, but they can’t do it without Boris, Nikolai, drakeford and the others.
I’m off to swop presents with my sister in law soon. I said I didn’t care about the restrictions and would come to her. She said as she was in tier 4 the neighbours could report her, so we are meeting on a motorway service station. And they say we’re not in a police state, when people are fearful of being shopped to the police for having visitors.
I live next to a county lines drug dealing den. It has been in operation since June last year. I can assure you that you and your sister have nothing to fear from the police.
Mmmm – I fear it would be ‘County lines – we need evidence. Visiting family – FPNs, COVIDIOTS !’.
Treatment of BLM/Extinction protests, compared to ours, springs to mind.
Wear a carnation in your lapel. The password is “the squirrel gathers its nuts in winter” the reply is “it’s harder when it is snowing”. Don’t forget you cyanide tablets and if you are caught LS disavows any of you actions. This text will self destruct in 20 seconds ………
Look at any old road atlas from the 80/90s there are lots of ferry route options other than France. Felixstowe -Zeebrugge, Harwich – Ostende/Hamburg/Scandinavia etc. Why the obsession with Dover-Calais these days? Not to mention the pathetic volume of freight via the chunnel which has never reached expectations.
How can they keep churning this shit out without even the flutter of a resignation when they don’t come to pass?
https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1341306917076021248?s=20
Doctor Who at it again.
The WHO doesn’t change the definition. The propagandists who work for them are clearly manipulating the situation to suit Big Pharma.
Sounds like a conspiracy
Several members of the W.H.O.’s executve board were removed from office a couple of years ago because of their ties with pharmaceutical companies. It’s a sham at the top. Look at their latest president. Check out the R Wood Foundation. That’s where a lot of Johnson & Johnson’s profits go. One of the last new members of the FDA was a R Wood Johnson alumni, so to speak. They all work together, fund each other, recruit each other and make the rules that have led us to this moment in time. It’s all Public Health, in all its guises and disguises.
The WHO changed their definition of pandemic in 2009 in order to trigger emergency contracts which benefitted people finacially. This was proven in court. I cannot see if herd immunity as quoted in the tweet has been peeled from WHO documents, but it’s likely.
Tedros psl and globalist sridhar has sprnt 2020 arguing against herd immunity only to replace that campaigning for campaigning for synthetic vaccinated herd immunity. The ‘vaccines’ not giving immunity is a minor detail.
I’m just so done with all this. I texted my best friend suggesting we exchange presents but she replied back saying her husband wants to self isolate because he’s anxious about the new strain. It actually brought me to tears, the disappointment that otherwise intelligent people allow themselves to be manipulated in this way.
How the hell can we combat this? Fear is such a primal emotion and so easily manipulated!
It is eye opening to say the least just how much of our population is WET, cowardly.. and thick. I expect the elites too were and are also surprised.
We can’t combat this..It’s done.People who are infected-yes I use that word on purpose, can not and will not be woken up until BBC or the MSM tells them they are allowed.
This is true for the population as a mass. But people post on here daily about how individuals can change, learn, and see through the covid bollocks.
If we’re there with facts, support, and common sense, it’s more likely.
There’s not much you can do as emotion trumps logic and the fear campaign has been entirely about manipulating emotion. Telling an arachnophobe that a spider can’t hurt them will not stop them being scared, even if you prove it. For the Covidian it’s a long course of de-programming that’s required or they need a tipping point where they still believe it but they suddenly realise that the consequences of lockdown have become much worse for them, such as redundancy.
Brainwashing, pure and simple. Even those who you would never believe to be so naive.
This is a rather shocking conclusion and need to be confirmed by others. The basis is the fourth round of serological testing in 16thNov-29th Nov in Spain. The document is below. No idea which exact antibody test used. Not gone through the document in detail. The main use of this serological survey for the government was to give a total antibody level of 10 % in the Spanish population. This was to be used in a promotion of the vaccine campaign.
But inside this document seems to be antibody levels in patients admitted with PCR tests pos having remarkable low levels of antibody levels. Somebody has to go through this in detail to really confirm if this is true.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ClareCraigPath/status/1341131426008346624
https://portalcne.isciii.es/enecovid19/informes/informe_cuarta_ronda.pdf
“Spanish antibody testing has failed to confirm COVID in 87% of their hospitalised patients and even 53% of their ICU COVID patients. Looks like Spain is in a false positive pseudo-epidemic.”
In the study they have about 43000 persons who were negative in serology in round 1,2,3 and their antibody status now in this fourth round.
Difficult to see that there were still 307 never wearing a mask in the most mask fanatic country in the world. But the results are rather amusing. Seems to show that not wearing a mask only 3% antibodies but I suppose not statistically different from the always mask 3.8 %.
Use of masks ( >6 years)
Never 307 3,0 1,4 – 6,3
Sometimes 845 3,9 2,6 – 5,8
Always 41550 3,8 3,5 – 4,1
Quickly reading through there are some questions. How valid are reporting of symptoms? Self reported?. How valid are information about PCR results, self-reported or from medical records?
Somebody in the know has to go through this data in to assess how reliable they really are.
The thing that people say to me that makes my blood boil the most is “no one is happy about it *insert nonsensical non-pharmaceutical intervention here* but it’s not that bad, just get over it”
If you’re not FUCKING HAPPY about it, DON’t FUCKING DO IT, and then this thing will be over in a heartbeat.
My town Facebook group posted a “helpful” anecdote the other day saying that Portsmouth A&E had added extra staff [to cope with extra demand] so don’t take any risks over the festive season. I took my daughter there last week. We were the only people there. She was booked in by two nurses, presumably because one of them was at a loose end. Unfortunately the admins of the group had turned comments off on the post.
No risks for some in household that have brain dead head teachers in them (all in all bricks in wall) will be having a christmas dinner served and eaten with bare hands with all the windows open. Coats not allowed.
My wife does work there sometimes. I was there last Sunday. Car park basically empty.
Worst case is meaningless.
Worth watching. It’s funny but at the same time disturbing as it shows how parents with all the best intentions are acutally complicit in this large scale child abuse:
https://twitter.com/FatEmperor/status/1340800113258749956
LOL! Brilliant. Makes me proud of how I am raising my kids.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. So best intentions probably lead to an even nastier place …
PS JP’s ‘Apology to ScrewU-tube’ is also essential viewing.
Ding x2
So, Prof Pennington makes some important points about the lack of evidence behind the ‘70% more infectious’ claim. So far, so good. But then he comes out with this: “We haven’t seen any data that shows the increase in England is down to the new variant rather than people just not behaving themselves”.
‘People just not behaving themselves’. That’s right, Professor, because dealing with a contagious respiratory virus can be reduced to a simplistic morality tale, whereby if we do enough individual acts of penance (social distancing, mask wearing, destroying the social fabric), then the Gods of Covid will be placated and may save our souls. However, as long as there are a few thousand of us not abasing ourselves in the approved way, we will continue to displease the Gods of Covid and their retribution will be swift and merciless.
How is it that experienced, apparently intelligent scientists can come up with this kind of medieval nonsense? I despair!
Don’t forget the underlying conceit that they are the informed parents and we are the ill-educated children who should do what we’re told to as they know best.
Skeptic or not, I think it’s reasonable to assume that the vast majority of people HAVE been behaving themselves. The fact is that schools have been open and children can spread contagion. Other restrictions were not as severe in Lockdown 2, but this is probably a modest effect. And why should the South East of the country behave so much differently to the rest where spread was contained and reduced up to Dec02? It’s very unlikely to be behaviour.
For those who think that Claus Schwab can have any direct control of this country I direct you to the Bill of Rights (1689) which sets out who is in control of this country.
Until and unless this is repealed then it is PARLIAMENT and in particular the executive led by the Prime Minister who is in charge. Nobody else!
Schwab has no jurisdiction here!
Some highlights:
The Declaration of Right was enacted in an Act of Parliament, the Bill of Rights 1689, which received Royal Assent in December 1689. The Act asserted “certain ancient rights and liberties” by declaring that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights_1689
“promises of fines and forfeitures before conviction are illegal and void;”
They happen all the time.
The WA is against a different part the Bill of Rights.
You seem unable to grasp the difference between what is supposed to happen and what actually happens.
Fuck off you patronising shit.
Saad to see John you are becoming absurd. Suggest take a break and commune with a breath of fresh air.
“You seem unable to grasp the difference between what is supposed to happen and what actually happens.”
This.
Just look at the written constitution of any totalitarian country. It is all chrysanthemums and teddy bears.
Good point.
Offhand, are there any other constitutions that specifically state the right to bear arms is inviolate ?
He may not have jurisdiction, but there is clearly some power being sent out to governments in order to get them singing from the same hymn sheets. There is a power behind this world, of some magnitude, that is driving events. I may be tempted even to suggest E.T……just to stir debate.
“There is clearly some power being sent out….”. What do you think the leverage is, darkhorse? How is it deployed?
We live in a time of deception. Anything can be happening. Including the unthinkable. Leverage? nuclear war? alien attack? Our minds should not be closed to any possibility, no matter how stupid it might seem. After all, we have all been subjected to lockdown this year, which in 2019 was unthinkable and “conspiracy theory”.
I take the scouts’ motto to heart, be prepared. For anything. No matter how unthinkable.
My mind is not closed. That’s why I am interested in everybody’s theories and ask to hear more about them.
My own world view was shattered by the discovery, some years after 9/11, of the collapse into its own footprint by Building 7. In other words, it was a controlled explosion. NIST eventually admitted that the building was in free fall for about one and three quarter seconds.
If the official narrative as to who was responsible is thus demonstrably false, what other “narratives” we have been told to believe are untrue? How many people are actually aware of the collapse of the third tower?
Always follow the money.
Corporations,foundations Hedge funds and the Banks have corrupted institutions and politics in this country and many other places.
Oh for God’s sake!
BORIS JOHNSON IS IN CHARGE HERE NOBODY ELSE!
They all fucking copy each other. There is no mythical power controlling them.
NONE.
Presumably banks and shareholders have no power here according to you?
John, the UK government, in fact 99% if not all governments, are in debt to the central banks. It’s not mythical. They control the world’s finances, and thus the governments. Does that not make sense to you?
“Now look, you owe us all this money, maybe you could do something for us? Nice little economy you have here. Would be a shame if anything bad happened to it.”
What about Belarus refusing money from the World Bank several months ago? What was that all about? They bribe all the time. With your/our money.
How can you be so sure? why are they all taking the same actions and using the same phrases? introducing the same measures? surely it`s too suspicious?
“De jure” vs. “de facto”. Go look it up!
And read some history and politics in general while you’re at it.
Well, parallel events in the US over the next 4 weeks will be somewhat of a litmus test.
The Telegraph article isn’t saying the new variant was found in Brazil 8 months ago. One of the mutations in it was seen there. It has arisen in a few places independently (and doesn’t seem to have made much difference).
The new variant has 23 mutations. But they don’t necessarily make any difference to its prospects any more than your grandfather’s big ears and your mother’s bad temper make any difference to yours even if you inherited them.
If you increase R0 due to mid-winter, “bad” behaviour, etc., whatever variant is around fills that new bit of space created. If it happens to get a head-start of a week over some other variant, just because of luck, there might already be 7x as much of it around and it grows from there.
We will know if the new “strain” is the real deal in a few months if it takes over practically the whole pie the way D614G did.
Guy, surely it would have already taken over if it was found in a September sample, taken at a time when schools had gone back across the country and life was starting to get going again (of sorts). Moreover, if it is now ‘out of control’ then surely it must be less aggressive as death numbers in the ONS survey are down for a second week and numbers on mechanical ventilation are flat?
Yes I think so. It’s not impossible that it was more infectious but unlucky at the start so is only just getting going now. But more likely I think that it’s just different, not much more or less infectious.
The claim that it’s more infectious seems to be based on the observation that it spread quickly in the middle of winter during a lockdown everyone was ignoring especially in Kent. This is not what you would call high-quality evidence.
Exactly, but since when did that deter Neil Ferguson, and indeed, Vallance and Whitty! Thanks for your reply – very much appreciate your insights.
In other words, they were already primed to do this, were just waiting for ‘confirmation’. Mr TT, a former energy academic, could rewrite this from the perspective of climate change ‘science’ and ‘modelling’.
Or they were waiting to “strike” just as the blip reaches its peak so they can claim credit for their lockdown/ tier 4 and perpetuate the myth that they are in control. The Zoe app is showing a slowdown. It will be level by the middle of next week and then, of course the ONS survey will start reporting again and show it was the “lockdown what did it”.
Toby AND Delingpole are both wrong.
Covid is the ruse we have been sold. The one egotistical pricks like Trudeau and Boris have jumped on. Thinking the people will ove them for delivering Shangrila.
But the Great Greta LGBTQ reset is the ruse our leaders and pricks like Prince Charles have been sold by those who really pull the strings.
Both are trojan horses for a good old fashion great depression.
Covis is just a cold. And The Great Reset is flannel.
Who is it that “really pulls the strings” and how exactly are they pulling them?
Fuckling hell. I’ve just posted it.
NOBODY IS PULLING THE FUCKING STRINGS.
BORIS JOHNSON IS IN CHARGE HERE.
Has Johnson been driving policy in the rest of the developed world for the past 10 months?
Pretty impressive given he was only elected a year ago.
Johnson is not in charge, he looks like a defeated man whose been told what’s what
But you fully respect our right to hold differing views, John, yes ?
China and Russia know all the dirt about Trudeau Macron Trump Biden and Pfalafel
The West is weak and the leaders are weaker
Doesn’t need to be anything else other than economic war
The world bankers, because the govt’s are in debt to them. IE via control of the world’s finances
The $64 million question ! Though I guess you’re being a tad ingenuous here, Julian.
And they’re quite likely as bright as me, so do you really expect them to own up and emerge in the public gaze ?
Lo! The voice of Our Lord has spoken.
Pray, dear chaos, save us from the demon Claus!
(sarcastic joke)
Two rules Britain in action…..
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge were accused on Monday of flouting the rule of six after meeting up with the Earl and Countess of Wessex with their children at a Christmas attraction….
Just discovered a new deadly disease, Coviditus, it’s symptoms are :
Bojo,ancock,tarmer,turgeon,rakeford and oster have all caught this disease along with the majority of the UK’s population.
Finally I blame remainers (revenge) for the chaos as they still cannot stomach the democratic vote in 2016.
Good! I’m glad if they flouted the rules. It might make their adoring fans question their own blind obeisance.
Yes, I read about this. I may be wrong but I thought the number limitations excluded children under about six years of age?
The 17 million democratic voters that are still being referred to as the far right.
The BBC investigative report about the search of the origin of Sars Cov-2
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55364445
should be read then compared to this twitter thread from Alina Chan, someone studying the virus and having vast knowledge in the subject incl. the persons interviewed in the BBC report
https://twitter.com/Ayjchan/status/1341186710969982978
I think the source is most likely to be Chris Whitty’s arse. (Joke)
What are the odds next Christmas is similarly cancelled? I expect new mutation claims will keep this going. 21, 22, 23, all natural occurences ruthlessly exploited. Endless dodgy testing, endless LD cycles, endless dodgy vaccines all the way to dystopian hell. At least the “conspiracy” accusers will evemtually get as rightfully deserved.
I’m not a betting man.
My partner’s mum works as a Healthcare assistant on the C-19 ward, has already caught it and is a rule follower bar none. She is also a Christian. We weren’t surprised when she texted to say she was ‘devastated’ at ‘having’ to cancel Christmas. It’s also her daughter’s b’day on Dec 27th. She is rather a rule follower and her partner is a policeman.
My partner texted her back saying she has a choice and she can choose whether or not to have Christmas and we wouldn’t be going to any ‘late christmas celebrations’ as they’re not Xmas!
She came round yesterday morning (technically breaking Tier 4 rules) to drop off presents and have a cuppa and, although she claims they’re overwhelmed in the hospital and this time people are in their 50s – we pointed out many things LS talk about. /
I felt shaky and angry and overwhelmed. In March Larken Rose and James Corbett both said ‘where is your no’ and write down your predictions of how this’ll play out.
We explained she would never have believed in March this would lead to Christmas being cancelled and how we don’t know if we’ll ever be ‘allowed’ one again.
How can she be so sure this will end when it keeps getting stricter – where is her no.
I also mentioned about Jesus and how he defied immoral laws and walked in his authentic truth despite being crucified for his beliefs.
She left saying she’d speak to her husband and she what he wanted to do.
Later she texted and said we could come round as planned!!!
Imagine that!
A HUGE step. Now, I doubt the rest of the family will join as they normally do but I feel this is a massive leap for a normal family following the rules!
Haven’t we been told recently that ”overwhelmed” hospitals mean that their so-called ”Covid wards” are full?
(And probably full of poorly people who’ve been unfortunate enough to test positive. ”Ignore the tyre marks, nurse. Just put him on the list.”)
Hugs all round! Well done.
“people in their 50s…”
Not a surprise. Many of these people will now be suffering the collateral impact of lockdown. They are people of an age where cracks start to appear in our health and they will have put off being checked or treated, or will have been delayed by the health service itself. Having now been admitted to hospital, probably as a perfectly avoidable case, they are tested on admittance or may have had a false positive test weeks ago and, purely incidentally, become classified and put on the statistics as a +ve case.
Well, the 77th’s WEF division is out in force today.
Operation “Let’s-Get-The-Fat-Controller-Off-The-Hook” is a great success. More and more of these threads’ black sheep are buying their WEF bollocks.
We’re all doomed I tell you! It’s not Boris Johnson who is in charge of this country. No, it’s Claus Schwab!
I’m sure Boris Johnson and his cronies are very relieved that they’re not going to be blamed for all of this. Ellwood will be getting a promotion for pulling this one off!
The British Prime minister has not been in charge of this country since 1940 when we bankrupted the country and lost the ability of independent action.That is fact.To suggest there is a guiding hand is not to absolve Johnson of blame.
He needs a little more than a guiding hand
Do you not think he was told to put us into Christmas lockdown 2 days after he said it would be inhuman.Even for this government that is one hell of a u turn.
I doubt he makes any decisions for himself. Told by whom, in this case? SAGE? Or…
Sage do the governments bidding not the other way around.
Okay, so told by whom? Which member of Government do you think is calling the shots? Presumably Hancock or Gove….
??
John, if the WEF or whoever is ultimately behind this that doesn’t let Bozo of the hook. This has been pointed out to you 1000s of times already.
It’s not the WEF thing John. It’s more that the majority of the advisors in SAGE and NERVTAG are left leaning, collectivists. You can see this in their policies. You can see it in Whitty and Valance and Van Tam. It’s all about collective responsibilty. Never about the intuitive responsibilty of individuals in a system, like how capitalism works when you don’t dick around with protectionism and over-regulation.
So there’s a confluence of ideas where WEF is a collectivist ideology, the advice is collectivist advice, Boris and Hancock are making collectivist decisions even though they are supposed to be Tories. Then we have the collectivist woke BBC who haven’t been on the correct side of the argument for decades.
So you are right that Boris is in charge. It’s just he only seems to be listening to the collectivists and lives in a collectivist led activist bubble. He gets it at home too.
For observers then you can’t tell if it’s coincidence or they are all singing from the same hymn sheet. In the end it doesn’t matter. We have a collectivist coup going on which is completely predictable because the government is listening to a bunch of modellers without auditing their work for policy.
And then those same modellers go on TV and big up their worst case predictions without any thought about the ethical implications of that.
Hi John,
If you’re interested, here’s a link to the Great Reset podcasts, produced by the WEF itself:
https://soundcloud.com/world-economic-forum
Primary source material, so you can make an informed decision on the WEF agenda.
I’ve not yet made my mind up about the WEF. I’ve digested months of ‘Conspiracy theorists’ propaganda (but I also read the Fortean Times, and don’t necessarily believe in little green men, Victorian serial killers with superhuman powers or talking mongooses), now I’m listening to and reading up on the other side’s propaganda (thanks again Nick for Schwab’s books). The truth is probably, as usual, somewhere in between.
You are absolutely right, the buck in this country stops with Johnson. But I do think he’s being influenced by the WEF agenda. For example, his ‘Build Back Better’ mantra is repeated by others throughout these WEF podcasts. It’s a WEF Great Reset catchphrase.
Why is everyone threatened by conspiracy theorists all of a sudden?
Ickeism get you nowhere with the Normies
plain and simple
It is a two stage process.
In the first stage one points out the huge discrepancies between the scientific evidence and the statistics on the one hand and the measures taken by government on the other.
This is all I would advocate when discussing the topic with ‘normies’.
However, sooner or later even the sleepiest ‘normie’ asks:
Why?
We’re all asking why – it’s natural
Maybe the best answer is that we don’t really know and it’s not important
But I can see how that won’t satisfy people
It’s tricky
Collective madness/political dishonesty vs more sinister motives – both explanations are quite hard to believe – I think that’s why people choose to think it’s all real and necessary
I try and look at it like a detective:
motive, means, opportunity.
Given the vast shifts in wealth and powere associated with covid-19 I think a detective would conclude that there is a case to answer.
You are of course right – we do not ‘know’.
I think however that we can make some very plausible speculations.
Who is the Good, who is the Bad and who is the Ugly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1PfrmCGFnk
Occams Razor suggests the Pig Dictator, Rapists Dad and Hazel McWitch are complete retards
Doesn’t need to go any further – it’s counter productive
Occam was wrong. If you present at A and E with a bullet in you, it suggests you have been shot. But then you may fail to investigate the possibility that it’s actually Covid.
I’m just wondering why all of the angst now? What is the fear?
Is it just another layer to the bedwetter ‘onion’?
Neither do scientific facts.At least CT are fun to look into . They are lizard people everywhere!!
Telling them masks are useless gets you nowhere too. We should give up ?
CT is a proven propagandist method of shutting down critical discourse.
We see bbc Clair (aka Marianna Spring) and all msm working to raise the CT useage in daily conversations.
They cannot afford to allow common people to chat in an open curious wondering fashion – this is extremely dangerous to their aims/world view.
All of which is inarguable proof the ground they stand on is shakey.
I think this is true. Casting opposing views as ‘mad’ is a strategy as old as time. However, there appears now to be a very paranoid focus on conspiracy theorists – so much so that those banging on about it are the ones that look a bit ‘cranky’.
I think theres a hidden rubicon in the story of the boy who cried wolf. We may be crossing it. Yes.
How about that for impressive analogy!
I like it. For my part, I plan to start calling myself a conspiracy theorist whilst doing scary monster hands. Small things amuse small minds.
I think one difference with most ‘conspiracy topics’ is that this is not a one-off event, but rather an ongoing process which is affecting all our lives and which has no obvious exit.
For this reason I expect many things to become clear in the fullness of time, because as we all know the measures are nothing to do with public health.
So, if the measures are nothing to do with public health, then there must be another reason.
The social and economic situation is bound to become explosive as time goes on. Whatever the reasons for the measures, further actions must at some time be taken. Time is not on the side of the authorities.
It seems to have become a catch-all slur to chuck out without very much thought. I’ve been called it and when I ask, ‘go on then, what conspiracy do I believe in?’… there is no answer. I’m thinking a lot of bedwetters are actually on the brink of becoming quite unwell themselves.
This twitter thread form Muge Cevik an expert in the mutation in the new variant
https://twitter.com/mugecevik/status/1341094907327492097
She wants to give an objective view of what is happening and reassure?
But in the last twitter she remembers the religious mantra
“But according to what we already know, it does not alter the effectiveness of social distancing, face masks, hand washing, hand sanitisers and ventilation. Important to continue following these measures”
I don’t mind people being reminded to wash their hands (there have always been some mucky b*ggers out there) but gloves would therefore be much more effective than muzzles. And if ventilation is so important – tell these dimwits to STOP WEARING THEIR MUZZLES IN THE OPEN AIR!
Quite a few of them are doctors and nurses too – my kids were at a school that was disproportionately kids of academics, consultants and senior nurses – personal hygiene seemed to be very low on their agendas.
I know someone who many years ago moved into a house that had previously been occupied by a hospital doctor. She couldn’t believe the disgusting conditions left behind. Everything needed scrubbing and a thorough deep clean.
From Joel Smalley’s stuff, even hand washing makes bugger all difference. It looks very much like it’s all down to you and how you look after yourself that determines the impact of any virus.
I.e. you’re not saving anyone if you don’t look after yourself first
I daresay others have posted this (I’ve only just arrived) but as things get hectic through the day, don’t want it to be missed!
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564421
1500 lorries now backed up at Dover..
Could this be the undoing of the pig dictator?
At last night’s press conference, Shapps said it was down to 150 – did he get the decimal place wrong!
Shapps said on the Today Programme yesterday that truckers are ‘a hardy bunch who are used to queues so they won’t mind.’
3-4 days or more stuck in the cab with no more than a biscuit bar on offer.
No facilities, toilets, food outlets, at the so called lorry parks designated for no deal Brexit and probably not getting home in time for Christmas.
Let’s see if they don’t mind Shapps.
Shapps’ comments last night made it evident he knows diddly-squat about transport. He tried to gloss over the Channel problem by saying we have other ports. It may be the case that only 17% of our cross border trade goes across the Channel, but this figure includes food, fresh and perishable. So if the Channel ports are shut, shortages will occur in shops. As things stand, it is not possible just to divert to other ports, especially if they are containerised (or blocked up with surplus or sub-standard PPE).
Of course HMG could have considered this problem in March when Macron leaned on Boris to lock down the first time. What strategic thinker would leave their enemy with a stranglehold over their supply lines?
Talking of Macron.. he’s making the most of this UK virus strain non event. Already his minions are demanding permanent strict lockdown of France after 26th December. Its almost as if this were in perfect Lock-Step.. eh!
This Shapps fellow is Transport Minister?
Surprisingly, yes.
Put him in a lorry and send him to line up in the queue at Dover/Calais.
…
Deaths in England and Wales over the past 5 weeks = 12368 average…. deaths in 5 weeks in January = 12554 ……but at the moment 30K covid cases a day, hospitals at breaking point, 400K tests a day to give us the 30K cases with lots of healthy false positives, but lower deaths than January? How does that work? 2756 covid deaths last week, which is always debatable as many would have underlying issues, 85% of them over 70, sad but highly likely covid was not the underlying issue.
Only politician that seems to talk any sense seems to be from Reform UK.
There is a lag of about 3 weeks between initial infection and death.
There is a lag of about one week between initial infection and recovery for 99.97% of symptomatics.
Fuck me, did I just scroll back into September, weeks before the bill and ben graph to the moon?
Be afraid, they said, one, two, three weeks to convert tests to deaths. We waited and waited and waited. Perhaps they meant from this week not last, give them the benefit of doubt lets give it six weeks. In a strange way we are still waiting…
We’re also still waiting for all those people dying 2 weeks after they went to Bournemouth beach.
It is four weeks but you know that you are just here on the troll, as usual.
fun fact. I gave up eating mayonnaise because of you.
Fun fact. Mayonnaise light is made from mouldy cabbage spores.
Absolutely. For those that are vulnerable. So expected deaths (with or from) need to be based on positive tests by age-group, surely? We can at least exclude all those secondary-age children with positive tests who we are told are contributing hugely to the figures.
So?
There is a lag of infinity between computer-modelled mortality predictions and reality a la Chuckle Brothers and the Fergus-loon.
But hospitals are not ”at breaking point”, are they? Perhaps their ”covid wards” are, but that’s because they’re shoving anyone who tests positive in those, no matter what else they’re being treated for. Or so I’ve been told.
I’ve been writing on this site for six months but for over a week I am blocked from using the name peter with my email address. Zero of my comments are being published.
Instead another person called peter has appeared posting here everyday, creepy stuff.
The person who is now calling themselves peter not a hardcore lockdown sceptic like myself.
I’m looking into it. How do you know what email address they use? Are you sure you email account is not compromised.
Had this (to excess !) yesterday, with another poster also using JohnB. Even though I was logged in all day.
See my email to you. Please respond.
We do not force commenters to register with a name. registered names are unique. You can register “Peter” (if still available) and it is yours to use and nobody else can use it. If you don’t register, then you’ll see others can take your preferred name. I take note that the email you use for your comments (we can see but are not visible to everyone) appears to be “fake”. If you register, you’ll be required to provide a real email address for the account, but that info is not released to anyone.
Richard D Hall has his latest scamdemic shows available @ richplanet.net and he is always worth a view but something he brought up in the 3rd show i find troubling and cannot shake from my mind. What if.. what if 2020 has seen a silent globalist coup inc obviously the so called “steal” in the US but more concerning for us here is the view that the Queen has also been dislodged as Head of State here , hence the lack of “Royal Ceremony” in legal proceedings and the seemingly steadfast march to fascism by the NWO bought Tories/Labour junta with a total disregard for democratic process.
The big theory is that Charles is being set up to drive the great reset. Queen steps down next year, William takes it. Charles has global role. I don’t really care for that kind of stuff. Nobody would believe you in any great number so if they want such things to happen, it will.
However, I do enjoy listening to the speculation
Interview with Charley boy here on the Great Reset podcast – Episode 1.
https://soundcloud.com/world-economic-forum
The WEF, Heads of State, industry and commerce all publicly proclaiming their plans for the near future. All the powerbrokers are eager for the agenda – it’s a mixture of Green policies, Woke idealism and global collectivism from what I can gather so far.
Are they really doing it for the good of the planet and its inhabitants? Who knows. A bit odd that previously hard-core capitalists have suddenly become so virtuous, if you ask me, but I’m just suspicious when it comes to people in power. “Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.”
But here’s some primary source material, anyway, if you want to listen to it.
I heard something similar elsewhere. Surely this would be major news if it were true?
I have been saying this for months. She has been conveniently sidelined. I don’t know if she deliberately protected us from her eldest son. But her longevity and good health did protect us from him. Alas, the spider memo prince is now the spider memo great reset king.
I have become a republican during this.The Queen has shown herself useless in defending the liberties of her subjects.What is the point of her if she cannot bring a rogue government to heel.
When did a monarchy ever defend ‘the liberties of (its) subjects’? It’s a contradiction in terms.
Spot on Rick.. they are in this crap right up to their necks and then some..
Very well said.
Yeah.. who was best friends with Jimmy Paedo Saville.. nothing to see there of course..
Who cares what Prince Charles wants to reset? He’s a dolt.
Queenie was sidelined when Heath took UK PLC into the Common Market
100% obsolete when Major signed Maastricht
Yes, and you’ve got to scratch the surface to find out this sort of stuff..
What I’ve thought from the beginning, in this country, a coup has taken place, Johnson has been coerced to keep quiet
It if it looks like a coup,talks like a coup and acts like one then it probably is.
Only explanation that makes any sense anymore.All others fall down at some point.
Modern Coups don’t need tanks on the streets,they just need control of the Media,Parliament and the courts.
And, soon, the money.
I think control of the money came first. That’s what made possible control of the rest.
Oh yes.. the money power has been in the driving seat since the beginning..
Suicides this year.. what’s the betting they are PCR testing the corpses for covid and calling most of them covid deaths?
This had entered my thoughts also. My neighbour knows of a girl who tragically passed away after she fell off her horse….it was down as a Covid death. This was back in May.
And the hospitals being ”overwhelmed” is due to their ”covid wards” being full because that’s where ”positive cases” are being put – no matter what else the poor souls are suffering from.
As long as the Tran knees get from the usual 40% to 50% I will consider that a 2020 win
Don’t think they have done any post mortem tests for Covid. I would imagine they could do blood tests for more accuracy. I think if they had done those tests the numbers would have come down.
Re: incompetence v conspiracy – it looks as though tempers are getting a little frayed in the comments section today.
I would like to think that we can all agree that the Government’s handling of the ‘pandemic’ has been a disaster, but while it seems clear that certain groups and individuals have seized the opportunity to further their own agendas I don’t think we should rule out incompetence as the root cause of the current fiasco. As Helmut Schmidt (a former Chancellor of Germany) said: ‘The stupidity of Governments should never be underestimated’.
If any of you are interested in the (very) long list of policy errors which have wasted billions and blighted the lives of countless ordinary people I would recommend reading ‘The Blunders of our Governments’ by Anthony King and Ivor Crewe:
https://www.simonandschuster.co.uk/books/The-Blunders-of-Our-Governments/Anthony-King/9781780746180
Based on a track record like this it is entirely plausible that we are simply witnessing the latest and greatest of these blunders – one that that has been replicated around the world as a result of media hysteria and the eternal desire of politicians to be seen to be ‘doing something’.
Why the continuing mess.Governments across the world could have opened up in the summer and declared victory.There are no excess deaths only panic over a test which is flawed.A fact that is inconceivable that the government is not aware of.
The government is aware of everything. They have to be if they want to remain in control – as they do.
Most likely imo because nobody wants to admit they got it disastrously wrong, and nobody wants to be the one stepping out from the herd too early. And doubtless there are a lot of political and other pressures exerted on politicians as well, as always. But the former is imo the underlying issue.
If there is no conspiracy then someone is going to be responsible for spending up to £400 billion on a bad cold virus.How can the establishment of a police state be a product of governmental incompetence?
“If there is no conspiracy then someone is going to be responsible for spending up to £400 billion on a bad cold virus.”
Exactly so.
“How can the establishment of a police state be a product of governmental incompetence?“
In reality the increase of state power at the expense of the individual is the natural order. it takes effort to resist it. “The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt.”
We are seeing just how rapidly this can operate when the fundamental safeguards have been undermined, right here, right now.
I find that unlikely, becaue not only are measures not being rescinded, but they are being doubled down on.
If your thesis is correct then why:
Have governments not tightened up on the the PCR, so that the number of ‘cases’ falls, so that measures can be resicnded?
Have governments insisted right from the beginning of this that a vaccine was the only remedy – banned HCQ etc.?
Was the message right from the beginning that we have entered a ‘new n****’ – that things would never be the same again?
Has Sweden seemingly decided to join other governments in their incompetence?
Has there been so much censorship?
Has there been such a ruthless police response to demonstrations, particularly as compared to BLM?
“If your thesis is correct then why:
Have governments not tightened up on the the PCR, so that the number of ‘cases’ falls, so that measures can be resicnded?”
It appears there are plenty who still doggedly believe in the error their panic led them into back in March, and those who might have come to understand the scale of the mistake they have made cannot afford to make the necessary admissions required to change to a policy of downplaying the virus rather than exaggerating it. They would, of course, immediately be attacked by all the well placed “true believers”, and remaining opportunists, around them, and all their past statements and decisions used to destroy them.
“Have governments insisted right from the beginning of this that a vaccine was the only remedy – banned HCQ etc.?”
The HCQ issue seems pretty straightforwardly to have been mostly Trump Derangement. As for vaccines, well there is certainly plenty of money and influence behind pushing those, but more importantly imo the vaccine exit is the only one that allows the Guilty Men to claim vindication: “see, we protected you until the vaccine arrived to save us all”.
“Was the message right from the beginning that we have entered a ‘new n****’ – that things would never be the same again?”
Some said that, others claimed we would be able to get back to normal once we had “flattened the curve” or “defeated the virus”.
“Has Sweden seemingly decided to join other governments in their incompetence?”
I prefer not to form judgements on Sweden until all the true facts are in. It’s been lied about so many times by the panickers that it’s hard to take anything in the media that is negative about that country seriously.
“Has there been so much censorship?”
Yes, there’s always been this kind and amount of censorship. It’s just been about things you weren’t bothered about being censored. This is exactly the kind and scale of censorship that Britain standardly operates concerning things that are “unacceptable” to the establishment. It’s been directed at offences against “pc issues” mostly, in recent years.
See for example George Orwell’s famous piece, though he wrote when society and media were structured rather differently.
The Freedom of the Press
“Has there been such a ruthless police response to demonstrations, particularly as compared to BLM?”
See the response above. This is pretty much how the police have always responded to demos by genuinely dissenting groups seen as unacceptable and potentially threatening by the establishment.
BLM and XR etc are not remotely in the same category. They do not represent dissent at all, rather they are intimidatory mobs encouraged to march, to suppress dissent form the establishment’s ideologies.
I hope you are right. But that doesn’t explain why they say no vaccine passports whilst clearly developing the technology for them. Or that vaccines will not be mandated, but then hint that we won’t be out of lockdown until everyone has had it… Which, like every other hint dropped in the press to date, has a high likelihood of becoming the reality.
And of course the suppression and censorship of opposing views and the shutdown of debate.
I dont really understand the Great reset or 77th brigade stuff…..it’s a bit too much of a rabbit hole for me at the moment. However I am open minded. I just come on here because its comforting to know how many others have a hate for mask wearing and the long list of other crap. I despise the governments in charge no matter what.
There is enough division going on everywhere now and it’s not nice to see it here.
This site is a great source of comfort and companionship for me too, Janice.I don’t think we need to be afraid of discussion here. Most people remain courteous (if passionate) and supportive of one another – I don’t think we are divided, even if a few contributors feel uncomfortable accepting variety of views and approaches. I think we make progress in our thinking by disagreeing and presenting different arguments.
The ’77th Brigade’ stuff is real – part of the intelligence/psy-ops machinery that has grown in recent decades, and is now focused on the domestic scene.
Yes they even announced at a press conference that 77th brigade was being used to “fight covid”.
Useful comment.
However there is the decided push to be intolerant which I see as a more important matter. We are aware of how ‘this morning’ differs to normal discourse here. Reaching ones own limit ought not to result in the kind of useless comments being made (coming from me, I know!)
Disruptors to open discussion usually have an undisclosed reason.
The incompetence vs planned debate is black and white. Yet life is not black and white. We have a fogged vacuum for government, deliberately so. We all know what positive transparency ought to look like this is the opposite. Deliberately so.
Manipulators stir and collapse to wrecklessly ride the chaos. Why should government be any different? Danny Kruger said four or more years ago the Conservatives were going to bring in a period of creative chaos. I believe Bowles MP said the same. Do go and find those quotes. Not to see specifically what they said, but so that you know chaos is a tactic of governance willingly employed. Then perhaps have a think about to what ends.
Common Purpose woven throughout British civil service is full of concepts such as expert idiots put into positions of authority who are incapable. Why? Chaos. Deliberately controlled chaos. This is just a tiny fragment of indication about the vipers nest.
Incompetence is still being pushed by some as the reason? Man alive. I thought we’d pushed past that a few months ago.
Yes, and as much as I like the the bloke, Peter Hitchens is still pushing this incompetent garbage. Sorry Pete you’re controlled opposition!
I reckon the causes and the motivations are multi-layered – a combination of both.
I’m sorry but you can only allow for a modicum of incompetence. These bastards and appointed advisors know exactly what they’re doing.
If lay people like me are aware of the unremarkable yearly death statistics, the high survival rate, and the total inadequacy of PCR testing then I’m damn sure governments do.
There is no pandemic, there is no killer virus, but there is an agenda.. the new normal, build back better.. straight out of the mouths of the Davos crowd and associated money grubbers.
You betcha! Free Assange!
We should add evangelical ardour to the list of motivations.
As personified by Hancock.
He has what I would call a saviour complex (completely misguided of course), which means he actually believes himself, and believes in his role as saviour.
Extremely dangerous.
This complex allows one to see the results of an interim analysis of a clinical trial, and only see the headline figure that you want to see. Such as 95%.
And as much as he looks, his eyes will simply not be able to focus on the toxicity profile.
SAGE are simply black-hearted scoundrels.
New Scottish Health “Secretary” announced. History graduate with no obvious experience of anything. Good comments in the thread
Thanks. They cannot afford to allow experienced good people in.
Don’t forget the petition – if nothing else it’ll make people feel they’re not alone.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564421
To insert a bit of positivity here..I went to pick up a duck for Christmas dinner (Borough Market) and had a lovely experience at Wyndham House Poultry..No masks, very good service nd after a quick chat it turned out they are pretty much all sceptics. Please give them some custom but avoid The Ginger Pig like they plague. Hardcore, mask, covid zombies’.
Noted, I’ll look them up.
Yes – I’ve posted it a couple of times so that it stays in the ‘new’ comments where newcomers are more likely to see it.
I drove past an ambulance earlier (no siren, must be transporting someone). Both medics in the front were unmasked. No rags even hanging off ears or chin. Shock horror!!
Police guy walked past me within a metre, no mask. He had quite an impressive beard.
A few minutes later his colleague parked their car right in the path of the ‘walking lanes’ that have been painted on the high street!
The mask will not seal correctly if you have a beard. It doesn’t matter if mask doesn’t work due to no seal as regulations only require face covering.
I hear london has become angry about the plastic sticks cycle and walking lanes so much so that they have been removed in places.
Pointing out the widely known already. These ‘active transport’ shanks pony measures were rushed in partially to continue the already running sustainability goals which come from united nation policy. Yes, implemented by local councils. Not only that, these painted high streets etc were rushed in during the window of spring lockdown to reinforce the supposed epic nature of these viral times. Our historic street enviroment itself altered. How disorientating is that.
They put big red and white barriers up in our market town in summer to widen the very narrow pavements, and implemented a one way system for traffic They lasted all of three days. Despite being a fan of car-free town centres I had to laugh.
Come on, everyone! Get signing! People need to know they’re not alone!
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564421
I signed it last night, even though I am a serf in the Grand Duchy of Drakeford.
https://www.facebook.com/thebarrelshereford/
Please don’t be offended when we ask for proof of a HR postcode, The police have suggested that this is the way forward. We have to follow government guidelines and the Police advice to try to keep our infection levels down and our pub open. I cannot answer every message that is coming through as I would be on here all night! These are the rules and we will follow them to keep our staff safe.
Sadly many comments supportive.
Postcode apartheid now.
fools don’t realise they’re being played
They also want photo ID: We will now only be allowing customers in with photo ID and proof of address. Driving license or passport with utility bill. We are happy in Tier 1 and would like to remain there.
How to deal with the ‘new’ strain?
First, ditch everyone still muttering the words ‘zero Covid’, Tier 5, 6ff or ‘national lockdown’.
Those people are now clearly completely insane and are just taking us with them into the abyss.
Key solutions :
I agree! Keep putting it into these comments so that it doesn’t get lost!
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564421
Professor Ferguson has become synonymous with locking down hasn’t he? Back in the fold in time for winter. How convenient.
It’s almost as if a man who is basically a savant (NF) is no match for an arch manipulator (Pfeffel).
Hard to believe that such an arrogant, scruffy, dishonourable, and UNELECTED oik has a say in the forming of our government’s policies.
Hard to believe he gets puss
There’s some snatch around that cannot think properly when presented with bad boy peen
Yes, she’s a stunner.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8327031/Neil-Fergusons-lockdown-lover-Antonia-Staats-seen-public.html
Are you blind or just not fussy.. ha ha
>>>>> Whoosh >>>>>
signed
thank you, just signed
Suggest keep putting it into the comments box so that it doesn’t get lost!
More groundhog day!
Apparently, hospitals all over the country are experiencing more Covid ‘cases’.
Please, please, someone tell me that this isn’t based on the PCR test! You know, the test where they stick a bud up your nose and is proven to be 100% unfit for purpose and about as useful as sticking a pipe cleaner up your backside.
But if we are in ‘groundhog’ day I might as well post something that was posted here not long ago but which is as good a candidate for repetition as anything else I’ve read on here.
Found this comment from Paul Weston on Breitbart. This says it all about the so called pandemic and virus mutation.
It doesn’t matter if the virus mutates – for the simple reason that the vaccines are not based on the coronavirus in the first place. The Oxford vaccine is based on the common cold coronavirus. The Pfizer vaccine is based on gene messaging black magic.
If you have a flu, measles, mumps, rubella, polio vaccine, you ger a weakened form of the actual virus itself, in order to trigger your immune system.
The reason they cannot use a weakened form of the Covid virus is because they have never identified and isolated the virus. If they had, they would use it in a vaccine. The government claims it has been isolated but when asked directly in FOI requests, they refuse to answer.
We are being lied to on a massive scale. Not least in the assertion that we need a vaccine for a disease which is so weak it is basically a vaccine in itself. Vaccines are only ever used when the full strength virus is capable of killing us or making us seriously ill.
But if the virus itself is so weedy that we suffer no symptoms at all, or just a fever and aches and pains gor a few days, then contracting that virus is essentially a free vaccine which triggers our immune systems whilst not threatening us in the least.
Fraud of the century, crime of the century. So insane in fact, that there is clearly another agenda at work here. The Great Green New World Order has arrived.
“someone tell me that this isn’t based on the PCR test!”
C’mon, Harry – everything is based on the PCR test, since any actual virus faded into the background noise.
I self tested. The pipe cleaner got lost. I’ll assume I tested positive.
Sign the petition! (I’m sure it’s growing suspiciously slowly…… but then, I’m looking for gremlins everywhere right now…)
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564421
Had same thought about it been throttled. 500 names added in 4 hours. Hmmm
Just signed, 9004.
Just signed 9009
IMO Johnson looks like a beaten man who’s been told what’s what
Agreed!
His attitide, body language etc. communicate exactly that.
Always thought the Sage Goons looked like the heavies, wonder if he had the threat, remember what happened to ‘that Scientist’, so keep your mouth shut
signed
I’m scared!!!!
This new mutant ninja virus has resulted in …..
…. All-cause mortality staying at the same (25-year average) level in the latest release!
I called in to see my mum and dad earlier this morning to find my mum in tears.She said she can’t stand this insanity anymore and can’t see how we are going to get out of the perfect infinity loop of madness.Throughout my life my mum has always been the strongest,most grounded and optimistic person I have known and to see her so upset this morning was both heartbreaking and anger inducing.I will never,ever forgive those who have done this to us.
Also,my brother is a branch manager and he ended up with no staff yesterday.His area manager’s spouse is ill,with what to seems to be flu,so they brainlessly went to be tested (obviously not that ill then) and big surprise,positive.The area manager then went for a test,big surprise,positive.Because my brother’s area manager had been in contact with all the branch staff last week my brother was told that all the staff had to be tested and,big surprise,all positive,so yesterday no staff in the branch.
At this point my brother hadn’t had a test because he didn’t see his area manager last week.He managed to get some ex-employees and temp staff in and eventually opened the branch later on yesterday.
Last night the area manager called my brother and said that he and all the temp staff now had to be tested before the branch can open again.Some of the temps quite rightly said ‘fuck that’ and quit,so the branch will now close.
Just like my mum had said,perfect infinity loop of madness.
That’s appalling. My heart goes out to him, and all others suffering this insanity.
We know that there should be NO testing of healthy people (or anyone not ill enough to be admitted to hospital) and that anyone having to go to hospital will just have to put up with a test (as my beloved does with his present course of treatment – he obviously caught the selector’s eye).
This ‘testing on demand’ is what is causing the problems. Just what the government’s ”advisors” intended, no doubt! They must be SO pleased.
Massive wave of New Variant Hysteria unleashed…
Local school being turned into a test centre!!!
I live in the 3rd smallest town in Shropshire with a population of around 3,000.
Good to see our money being well spent.
They care so much about the kids.. they use the schools to test for the virus.
I am now realising another plank of the propaganda game. I have said that I refused the vaccine when it was “offered” to me. I phoned my mother to tell her this and she said right away that I should take it and that she was planning to take it when it came round to her.
I then got into a long conversation about what was going on and I told her about all the propaganda and I talked about the PCR tests etc. But I soon realised that she wasn’t listening. As before I felt that I was competing against all the TV propaganda that was being blasted at her when I wasn’t there.
I reminded her the story she told me about the thalidomide she turned down when pregnant and was shocked when she told me she actually did take some. At this point I felt the conversation was slipping away from me.
She phoned back and I could see I’d sown some doubt in her mind. But I suddenly realised something else. These covid pushers had always emphasised getting the vaccine to the “most vulnerable” first i.e. the old ones who may be more likely to take it without a struggle. If the old dears take it, then the younger members of their families will feel bound to follow (“Well if she’s brave enough to take it then I ought to as well” etc.) Sneaky.
“Sneaky.”
Well, in fairness we are being manipulated and propagandised by professionals.
Expensive ones, funded by our own tax payments. That ought to make us all very, very angry indeed, imo.
Raises questions that imo go to the very heart of what the terms liberty and democracy actually mean, I think, though few seem to be having that discussion.
“As before I felt that I was competing against all the TV propaganda that was being blasted at her when I wasn’t there.”
Exactly. We get to talk to them for a few minutes, then they mostly dive straight back into the bath of 24 hour all-pervasive fear propaganda. Small wonder it’s hard to make truth and reason stick.
And they are the least likely to have the mental capacity to properly read the vaccine informed consent data. Personally, I have successfully educated my mother in law (84) to the extent that she has refused to take it. That said I have told her that if after a suitable time frame (ie so that we can see whether there really are any nasty side effects following jab no 2) then she may wish to reconsider given her age and vulnerability. But I know she won’t do it without checking with us first.
Well, my elderly relatives are not of childbearing age. I am. My elderly relatives are much more at risk of Covid than I am. For them, the benefits of the vaccine likely outweigh the risks of the disease. For me, they don’t. And that’s why I won’t be getting the vaccine anytime soon.
The propaganda can try as hard as it wants – nothing overrides sovereignty over my own body.
I think we should not take in principle until it is clear in law that there is no coercion of any kind.
And what the fuck will the MP cunts do, fuck all.
Don’t forget to put some money into the charity swear box. If it makes you feel better, it’s worth a quid or two to a good cause.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_Popular_Delusions_and_the_Madness_of_Crowds
Mass delusion is well documented and can lead to catastrophic government action. This has been well discussed but in WW1 the experts ordered millions of men and boys to walk towards machine guns and artillery on pain of firing squad. It also went on for years. Just one more push lads and we’ll be in Berlin! I’m not aware of any prosecutions of the generals after the war. Strategy changed in the last year for a number of reasons but mutiny in the French ranks was part of it. Also political changes in Britain. It’s worth noting that the public was much more cynical after 1918 and there were huge societal changes as a result including a massive expansion of democracy. This is my greatest hope for any post-covid delusion future.
Endless lockdowns are taking on a similar nature to the ‘one more push’ mentality. Each one a depraved disaster.
It’s backed up by the Sunken Cost Fallacy. Which is arguably more dangerous. All the contracts are out. It just won’t do to stop now!
Funny how Richard Tice on TR was saying that private labs are banned from releasing test details. So how the fuck can you audit them?
It took ten years after the Great War for people to see the truth…
Perhaps you should read more in-depth studies of the First German War, rather than trot out the usual ”received wisdom” line – ”all squaddies ignorant louts and all generals baddies”.
Yes agreed it’s more complex. senior officers died too, including generals. Doubtless there was enormous bravery and fortitude at all levels. Lack of mobility and radio explains a lot in the battles that I’ve read about. I think the core lesson stands though, that military experts and politicians got a lot wrong and this led to a monumental loss of life. They also spent years repeating failed plans. Difficult to see the Ypres campaign as a success.
With the current experts, will history give them a pass? ‘Faulty technology, everyone making the same mistakes, necessary to experiment’ ? I hope not.
Interesting piece on the Russian BBC
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/510368-covid-strain-new-mutation-authoritarianism/
What is the difference between BBC and RT? .
One is a state controlled propaganda machine . The other is a russian tv station
seriously though. RT is far more believable than the BBC is
An interview with Professor Jay Bhattacharya on this week’s EconTalk podcast:
https://www.econtalk.org/jay-bhattacharya-on-the-pandemic/
Its not mandatory in Spain. Its mandatory when you are in the company of others or when shopping etc. When you are alone in the street for instance you do not need to wear a mask.
Here we go. Aerosol transmission in apartment bloc. Possible to stop?
https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)32558-3/fulltext
Possible Aerosol Transmission of COVID-19 Associated with an Outbreak in an Apartment in Seoul, South Korea, 2020
“An outbreak occurred along two vertical lines in an apartment in South Korea.
The virus can be spread through the air duct by the (reverse) stack effect.
Our study implies that indoor infection risks through aerosols are underappreciated and urgently need attention. More people may have to stay indoors during the pandemic to avoid interpersonal contact. However, some may be exposed to viral infection by inhalation due to inadequate ventilation systems. Our study also implies that the rigid rules of safe distancing that stick to droplet and contact transmission based on an outdated dichotomous notion of respiratory droplet or aerosols should be reconsidered
I’m more concerned about the aerosols in the cabinet.
We haven’t had a test of our character like this for generations. Some of us, probably a lot of us, have never been properly tested during our entire lives.
I’ve found myself comforting a few people who are completely alone amongst their family and friends. I tell them that though it feels horrible to be alone in a belief, they should be proud that they have the bravery and courage to confront something that the majority are too scared to.
This is going to get more divisive and more insane, and who really knows which way it’s going to go, but I find that if you take solace in the fact that you’re on the side of truth, it does make it a little easier.
What use is the truth if nobody believes it? For so many the MSM is their truth.
Believing in the truth when the majority don’t seem to means having moral character and courage. We’d all have a much easier life if we just went along with everything we’re being told, but we refuse to, because we know it’s all lies and nonsense. Do you not take comfort in the fact that you’re right when so many others are wrong? And that you don’t just cave in when they launch another layer of propaganda at you?
It’s just depressing seeing how many have so easily bought into this.
Yeah, I agree. I had a far higher opinion of people prior to this, and my opinion wasn’t all that high to begin with. I know the media obscure things and all the polls are complete rubbish, but when someone I know well just follows along with the lies, it can be very demoralising.
However, that’s the way it is. How they feel doesn’t affect my beliefs and I know I’m right, so that keeps me from getting too down about it all.
You know when people say “I knew that band before they were famous”, and everyone says “yeah, sure you did”? I can honestly foresee a world where these very same people who are going along with everything will be saying “yeah, I always thought corona was rubbish, right from the start!” and we’re all just stood there saying “what are you talking about?! You followed along with everything and told us we were wrong!”
I don’t think my opinion of people has changed. What has changed is my appreciation of the power of fear.
I’m one who has always been characterised as risk-averse, but I’m also analytical, rational and logical. Perhaps my fear (and I was decidedly unsettled in March) sharpened those intellectual propensities and taking a cold, hard look at the facts was initially my way of coping.
Just like how everyone was against the Iraq war. But even if this does somehow end there are so many I’ll never see in the same light ever again too. Their belief enabled it.
That’s brilliant. I’ve found that being prescient is a very good tool, and a lot of this is quite predictable when you boil it down. I’m now seen as some kind of a savant by my family because back in July I predicted the November lockdown!
Think how many people now famous and hailed as heroes had to suffer during their lifetime. But they believed in what turned out to be “right” and kept fighting. Along them were many people supporting them or doing small things to help spread the thruth or just solidarity.
The thing is turn that negative thinking around. So think – I feel great knowing I have considered all angles and know the truth. It’s better than than living in fear continuously.
The truth is the truth is the truth.
If your picture of how the world works is more accurate – ie more thruthful – than the picture that others have, theny you have an advantage over them in terms of survival.
There are always penalties for having a picture of the world that is not accurate.
I have been intrigued by what all this reveals about attitudes to death, a state that nobody ultimately escapes. Past ages would have handled this much better. A bit of memento mori is always good.
Wow Pennington’s comments are a load of shamelessly egregious nonsense:
Is it more transmissible because you only have to breathe in a smaller dose of it? Or does somebody infected with it breathe out more virus?
Where do “they” find these people?!
If it’s so easy to transmit just by breathing on someone, how come in order to obtain a test sample, they have to shove the Schwabs nearly into your brain and down your throat till it makes you gag?
People haven’t been behaving themselves.
Ah, there it is! Nothing to do with the testing rate then?
“Schwabs”? I love this – you’ve cheered me up this morning, thank you!
I cry for Thailand. This time last year I was in Bangkok with my family , seeing friends and enjoying the atmosphere. My wife lived in Thailand for years (teacher at an Private school) and my daughters godmother still lives there. She was supposed to get married to 2021 but God knows if this will even go ahead and we will probably have to miss it as a family. I don’t even know when i will be able to get back as I’m not taking the vaccine. What a fucking situation.
Investigation of novel SARS-COV-2 variant Variant of Concern 202012/01
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/947048/Technical_Briefing_VOC_SH_NJL2_SH2.pdf
I’ve been calming myself for a half hour. The “wefnuts” (my new word for those who believe that Claus Schwab rules the world) on here are going to give me a heart attack if I’m not careful.
I often wonder what happened to some of the regulars from the summer who are now silent. Perhaps they were scared off or maybe they’ve had enough of it all? Maybe they don’t believe the wefnuts and their constant promotion of the wef and the nwo.
This is not the best forum I’ve ever commented on. Only eighteen months ago I was a regular contributor on Craig Murray’s forum. Now there’s an experience. An ardent Scottish nationalist and Tory hater. I am half Scottish, so I suppose I felt I had something to say there. He’s also quite Russophilic so that suited me as well. I left there after it started to take over my life.
Off-guardian is one I have contributed to this year, but for some reason I don’t seem to be able to get excited about it just now. Generally they have a better calibre of commenter on there and the readership is a more international one, though there are plenty of Schwab “fans” on there as well.
I wonder what is driving the nuts at the moment? I think that James Delingpole and his opposite number on the Left, Neil Clark certainly have a lot to answer for. Two men who I have read and listened to a lot in recent years. I still enjoy much of their material, but of late I have become a little suspicious of their motives.
Delingpole is an interesting character. A horse-loving pseudo-toff who sent his son to Eton. Erudite and charming, Delingpole likes to claim Eton is “the best school in the world”. (Or at least was until “trendy-Hendy” got his foot in the door – the current “woke” head Simon Henderson).
IMO, his claim for Eton as “the best school in the world” is highly contentious. After all it was the school that produced Cameron and Johnson. Is that something really to boast about? Good school or simply evidence that some parts of the old class system are still with us even today?
Delingpole as well as promoting the great reset is also promoting the idea that if Trump doesn’t win then we are all doomed. Of course this too is attention grapping bullshit from James. I think his promotion of this and the wef are his current devices for gaining attention and readership for his Breitbart Column. Breitbart is fine, but attracts a certain profile of person. James knows this and is playing on it, IMO.
Clark is fulfilling a similar role on the Left.
Anyway, time for my lunch.
I was at Uni with a guy from Eton. Very posh, but good bloke.
It would be best if you setup and maintained your own blog.
I am still here but choose to ignore comments that I may not agree with. Certainly not scared off and welcome all and any opinions. Personally, I don’t care if it is incompetence or controlled. The outcome needs to be the same – end the insanity. It is clear you do not agree with certain ‘theories’ but your replies will not change minds and only cause friction. I suggest you gloss over them.
The WEF are essentially the Davos crowd. Many world leaders and people of influence in industry tootle off to Davos every year, and whatever they discuss tends to drive government policy in home nations. Climate change is a great example of this.
The WEF themselves have said much of what you think of as conspiracy. Perhaps to understand the sway of the WEF, it would be worth watching some of their forums where international leaders etc are hitting all of the talking points.
You seem to think you live in a world where the leaders of nations are the powerbrokers, but you miss an important point. It is not the leaders that drive long term policy, but big finance.
If the big banks packed up and left tomorrow, the UK would become a developing nation overnight. London is the largest financial center outside of NY, banking is the core of our economy. So along comes your elected leader, wanting to make radical changes for the betterment of the people, and the banks just tell him no and threaten to leave. Then what?
The world is run by the global money system, and the key players therein. It has been this way for a long time. The central banks run the show – who in turn are influenced by private banks. If you want to understand the power of private banking on our lives, I would recommend watching (or reading) Princes of the Yen, by Professor Richard Werner.
The WEF is the face of the World Bank. The World Bank is driving Covid response policy, by way of large loan bribes, as Belarus pointed out:
https://thespectator.info/2020/07/30/world-bank-offered-belarus-940-million-coronavirus-loan-but-only-if-they-locked-down-and-destroyed-economy/
Please do not denigrate those of us that already understand this and write us off as ‘loons’. We are not just swapping tall tales on social media, there is a great deal of research available by some very well respected people, and for some reason, it has completely passed you by.
Further, the smug little ego kick you give yourself by announcing that you are better than everyone else in a public forum is pretty transparent to anyone with even the slightest understanding of psychology. It doesn’t do you or your relationships any good in the long run, and is in all honesty quite depressingly childish.
Excellent summary.
Thanks. It’s always astonishing to find someone who believes that they have their finger on the pulse yet seems to completely overlook the prime mover that we are all shackled too. It’s hard to understand how one could be so myopic to miss the largest of all of the elephants in the room. Doubly so when you have to point it out ‘sceptics’. Humans are inexhaustibly duplicitous and outrageously egotistical, and our world reflects that perfectly…. why is this so hard to comprehend?
I call it “half in, half out”. I remember a few months back posting about how I thought Toby was half in half out, because he clearly understood what was going on, yet he kept attributing it to incompetence. I think it stems from one of two things: 1) being in a position where you feel you can’t fully commit, for reasons of preservation related to your business or your public or even private persona (not wanting to be called a conspiracy theorist, basically), or, 2) you know something is going on, but to believe in the Great Reset would destroy your entire pre-existing world view, so you instead attribute it to something warm and comfy that allows you to have it both ways.
We’re still on the same side so I don’t mind too much if people want to believe it is incompetence, though the problem with doing so is that it’s hard to predict what may be coming next when you assume they’re just blundering through these decisions, but the rare comments denigrating anyone who doesn’t believe the same are very annoying.
It is deeply worrying that the UK and rest of the world seem to be following the ‘plan’ leaked from Canada a few months back, which many on here were convinced was mere ‘conspiracy theory’ and would never be implemented..
Seconded.
Yes, and I would add that I suspect that Carrie Symonds has far too much influence in the decisions being made, despite no one voting for her..
What is her background?
If I can just add a bit to that excellent insight. The malevolent force of the New York Fed cannot be underestimated. This feeds into the cross-border fight for supremacy in capital markets in the 1990s (between London and New York) that pushed the Clinton administration into repealing Glass-Steagall in 1999, with the emergence of full-service global banks. 2007/8 ought to have reigned them in, but it did not, it made them more powerful – and ultimately more dangerous because the next time, the entire banking system will collapse.
A chilling thought, and a plausible and even persuasive one. And if the banking systems collapses then surely the political systems will go down with them. Happy days.
Excellent comment. I think some people are simply frightened, as I am
John – don’t let comments get out of perspective. You’re not the only one who will disagree with both sites and commentators. For instance, I like a lot of the UKColumn analysis of Covid – but am not persuaded by some of their other obsessions; OffGuardian is a mixed bag, ranging from perceptive comment to the semi-magical.
You take what you can get out of what’s there – no site is a religion that you sign up to. Same here.
I write as a fully committed Groucho Marxist
John, things are indeed getting quite heated at the moment. All of us are under considerable stress to a greater or lesser degree depending on a range of personal factors; job and financial security, whether our nearest and dearest share our view of lockdown, to name just a few. I do not want to add further fuel to the fire on a polarising debate, nor do I wish to defend any one person over any other, but I do want to say a few things about Eton, a great school in something of a temporary, if not permanent decline, as a function of poor management decision-making.
It is difficult to argue that Cameron and Johnson reflect anything but badly on the school. They do. That, however, is a function of their individual family backgrounds, in my view rather than the school. However, there were others in both my College, and who I met subsequently through work, who it would be difficult not to admire, and in one case, cherish for his early exit to suicide (he was a doctor, and Eton King’s Scholar, like Boris). Another was a very prominent City financier, who I was very fortunate to work for. I was in the office very early one morning (before everyone else), and to my surprise, he was touring the trading floors talking to every single cleaner, inquiring whether they were ok. These are but two, both a credit to their families, who also happened to have the benefit of an Eton education.
It’s good to read your defence of people who go to Eton as just that: they are people and should be judged on their character.
I’m a working class Northerner but I loathe inverted snobbery.
My daughter went to Oxford and met lots of ‘posh’ people, but I taught her to treat everyone she met the same so that she didn’t come across as chippy and ‘inferior’, which I think holds you back. One boy she shared with could trace his family back to the Domesday Book, lol, but he was the loveliest, kindest friend and she adored him.
I am a working class Northerner too – first in my family to go to university (Oxford). My best friend is an aristocrat. As my mother, who left school at 15 with no qualifications, would say: we are all born the same way, die the same way, and have to shit the same way!
Haha, wise woman, your Mum
My daughter was the first in our family to go to university; Oxford then Cambridge, through very hard work and natural ability. My grandparents were servants and dock workers, I’m as proud of them as I am of her.
Very similar. On my father’s side, a domestic servant and manual worker (shovelled coal into the furnace). On my mother’s side, an upholsterer and messenger (he caught polio in Burma and was discharged from the army). None of my grandparents – both grandfathers had died before I was born – had easy lives, especially my mother’s parents. Cameron and Johnson are the products of their family circumstances in the main. We know less about Cameron, but have a pretty good idea about Johnson from Tom Bower’s book – very damaged goods.
Yet both families produced Oxford graduates through sheer merit. This is the main reason I don’t support quota systems or positive discrimination, which is sadly where top universities seem to be being pushed (if not there already).
Liz Truss’s speech the other day said much about this. Oxbridge now has an over-representation of particular groups, at least superficially. When you dig into the data, however, it is not over-represented by socio-economic or regional profile. If you are ethnically Pakistani from Bolton or Bradford, with a parent of the same profile as my parents, you are as under-represented as a white working class girl or boy from Newcastle. The places are taken increasingly by an ethnically diverse London and South-East demographic, supplemented by ethnically diverse and very wealthy overseas students – they likely use an algorithm to optimise diversity and fee income.
Sad. It isn’t how we get the brightest and best.
This site is essential to me and I’m so grateful to Toby Young for setting it up.
I am very isolated where I am, as far as covid nonsense goes, so hearing from others who feel the same is so important.
Does anyone here think their school changed their innate character?
I went to some rough state schools and then an expensive boarding school (on a scholarship). It didn’t change who I am. I was always a sensible, hard working science-nerd, with a healthy disrespect for authority.
And at both my state schools and the boarding school I met some lovely, kind, generous people and some utter arseholes. People are people. Some are good, some are bad. We have to learn to live with them all (much I as I am inclined to learn some sniping skills and shoot Hancock’s smug face off)
Mine was a bog-standard city comprehensive and I have very few good memories of it. I used to fantasise about being an only child and being sent to a boarding school, lol.
Your last paragraph is spot on.
So true. I have worked with several ex-forces officers, and one thing that came across in all of them was the ability to gain buy-in from very working class co-workers (back office in the City). They either possessed inherently, or had it drummed into them, that respect is a two-way street. Most of our current crop of ‘leaders’ have not been in the position, as career politicians, to have learned this valuable life skill. When they are finally brought to justice for what they have done, as I am sure they will be in time, they will learn this the hard way.
There’s probably lots of different invested parties driving this catastrophe. The banks (see Ernst Wolff #Corona – The Collapse of the System) as has happened already in the past
Pharma and other entities are probably involved too. It’s possible the WEF has less of an influence than some people think. Either way, asking questions and trying to understand what’s happening is not a bad thing
Putting everything down to incompetence is akin to burying one’s head in the sand. If things are the same in summer 2021 will it still be incompetence?
If it’s the same in five years’ time will it still be incompetence?
John, I admire your dedication to the “Boris is in charge” narrative and your refusal to even consider a different viewpoint.
Most welcome in the discussions.
But at what point do you (or anyone) say “but there are too many coincidences mounting up?” and reconsider.
Ever heard the saying “he who pays the piper calls the tune”?
signed 9137
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/watch-british-travellers-held-against-their-will-german-airports
This concerns the last flight from London to Berlin at the weekend.
Non-Germans were told they had to take a test before entry, but Germans were let in without a test.
Discrimination Rules OK!
Perhaps the Germans could fully prove their Aryan bloodline?
There has been plenty of arbitrariness about this in most countries affected, nothing science-based about it.
I wonder if I with a German passport but British address in it would have been waved through?
At least they could get in with a test – Sweden won’t let ANY non-citizens back in, test or no test..
Oh, yesssss!
The DM is fully onboard with the destruction, every article is doom laden
But comments 99.99% anti-narrative.
Pretty sure I could dropkick it all the way to Thailand.
Signed, nearly to 10 k
It may be wishful thinking, but I am detecting some evidence in all the reporting that if this thing really gets out of control there is nothing that can be done. It has been noted that our new mutant strain happily brewed and spread during the November national lockdown. While there may be some excess deaths and some grisly hospital scenes, if this thing runs properly, properly rampant then the restrictions are for nothing and become irrelevant. Wearing a mask when nearly everyone is testing positive would be pointless. Might this be an exit strategy, and one that comes sooner than the vaccine? Is it morally defensible to think this way?
I’ve just been entering up the latest all-cause mortality figures (Week 50).
To put the panic-fest in perspective : the rate is falling (not dramatically, but imagine what the government would make of the opposite movement) – and is actually converging with the quarter-century minimum year/level for this time of year, which continues to rise for the comparable time.
But the problem that we face remains : so many people are genuinely convinced that we are in the middle of an uncontrollable plague; they are totally blind to the actuality.
Joel Smally and co (among others) have demonstrated that restrictions and interventions have had no impact whatsoever on positive test data. I don’t think they will ever admit masks etc. are pointless. People will always scream “something must be done” – they don’t care whether the something works or not.
I think it’s completely morally defensible to think this way. We could get rid of the entirely avoidable harms without making any difference to the unavoidable ones. I just doubt that any exit strategy other than mass vaccination is up for consideration.
You’re thinking too logically. If you ever wonder if the government will do something, remove all logic and you’ve got your answer.
In the case of your post, the main logical points you make are:
Now imagine the media headline for those logical points:
“MUTANT STRAIN SPREADING EVERYWHERE! CASE NUMBERS UP 58215%! MASKS NEED TO BE MANDATED EVERYWHERE TO STOP IT SPREADING FURTHER! EXCESS DEATHS HIGHEST IN RECENT HISTORY!”
The government needs an exit strategy that is not based on the natural creation of herd immunity, given the enormity of what it has done. Pretty much every other western government, with few exceptions, needs the same thing. Otherwise, everyone will ask why we did this. The virus mutating to be less harmful, or discovering that we are already at herd immunity are not helpful exit strategies if you are a decision maker in all this.
Most non sceptics also do not want to believe that they have been suckered. They want to believe that all of the measures have been worthwhile.
The vaccine is the only acceptable exit for them. Millions would have died in the “second wave”, we rightly told you to hunker down, and now the vaccine came to the rescue as promised. We are heroes.
I do not believe this is a consciously cynical strategy but it is a classic case of people believing what they want to and need to so as not to become pariahs.
This is why I am sceptical of the vaccine too. It fits the need of the decision makers too easily. Whenever such a situation arises, then the temptation to make the facts fit the narrative is very great. Again, not cynical greed, just cognitive bias. Especially when all the decision makers need it. It is too tempting.
I think that the capacity for further man made disaster continues and will take a while to play out.
Yes, I think you are right. It’s all about the magic vaccine, which may turn out to have lots of problems (side effects and lack of effectiveness). I don’t think it will take that much longer to play out, though, due to the huge impact on the economy (which will get worse with whatever happens with the end of the Brexit transition) and what looks like a lot of public non-compliance and fatigue. I think government credibility is under severe strain and expect the PM to be out soon. My hope is that his replacement will actually sack most of the Cabinet and all of the ‘advisers’, change the testing system and just declare victory. Otherwise, we are really in trouble.
Judge them by what they do not by what they say.
Airports are wide open – people arriving from Covaids infested hotspots since March
Clearly not an issue
That’s an interesting one. Prince William et al breaching rules in Norfolk. I think there’s a sense of “we have to be seen to be doing this” but actually “if you’re smart you shouldn’t need to be burdened by it”. Just look at the exemptions to meeting up and travel. They are relatively ‘generous’ by continental European and US Democrat state standards. I wonder if Boris really just does as SAGE says but keeps the legislation loose. The police in England don’t even have power of entry. The parties that get broken up are the ones in which some idiot opens the front door and invites the police in. Those with half a brain cell and who know and understand the legislation can live a pretty normal private life. Work I accept is different unless you are a knowledge professional and can do the job from home.
Travel rules may seem generous to you, but I assure you that Brits who live abroad would disagree. Having come to the UK for Christmas on good faith with regards to the rules, we now find ourselves stuck in the UK for an indeterminate length of time (minimum of a MONTH) because most countries are not allowing non-nationals back in thanks to the UK government’s latest admissions re the new variant of Covid. Clearly not a medical decision because there is no reason why a citizen would be less infectious than a mere ‘habitual legal resident’…
Problem is WHO has already said they have known about this variant since September and there is no evidence at all that it has a faster rate of transmission. So curious now. There is no chance of it running rampant it’seems just a variant no more no less with no additional impact.
That’s almost a shame if proven to be true…
After being told for months to isolate, keep distance ,wear a mask, etc, I do not think there are enough people who will change their behaviour to make a change. Even if they welcome the news and secretly want too ditch the mask, they will claim to have to protect a vulnerable person.
1. Not up-to-date
2. Didn’t know of pregnancy at time of administration.
Are possibilities.
The other that occurred to me was to wonder if it was UK data. The US have a CDC.
CDC is the US Centre for Disease Control
‘Centers’ – it’s a plural (and American spelling unfortunately!).
DavidC
It is UK data though – https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2020-12/slides-12-19/05-COVID-CLARK.pdf
That’s a link to the CDC, a US organisation. And it’s a .gov web address, a US government domain
And i think, in the US, they are prioritising healthcare workers over the elderly. So they are more likely to inadvertently get pregnant women. Who I am very worried for.
In my pregnancy group (Reddit) which has a lot of Americans , they are having the vaccine if working in health care and pregnant. Some of the ladies are welcoming it and encouraging others to get it. One said they had signed up to a study about the vaccine and pregnancy.
They aren’t giving it to pregnant women in the uk
Sadly she didn’t became president of the US
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1341027010353750016
“Heartless, arrogant, unelected CDC bureaucrats have decided that the lives of elderly Americans don’t count. They’re recommending 100 million “essential workers” (i.e. healthy people working at liquor stores or phone companies) can get the vaccine before our grandparents.”
Contrary to Pfizer’s own advice, the US are consciously administering the vaccine to pregnant women. As part of the propaganda I saw a photo of an American doctor who is five months (I think it was) pregnant and having the vaccine and declaring that she was proud to participate and no one should be afraid.
Just to repeat (as it’s still growing suspiciously slowly….)
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564421
Maybe people have lost faith in petitions?
Good point, John. I have no idea how many I have signed since March and will keep signing, but I am sure many feel it is futile. I also expect many people are distracted with Christmas prep and not paying as much attention to the wider world just now. I imagine that I would do likewise if I had children, and indeed it would be a welcome distraction from the gloom of reality!
Hard to keep faith with anything right now – but the petition that got 300,000+ signatures against vaccine coercion was debated in parliament with mildly positive results
I haven’t put my name to it, not because I don’t agree with the sentiment, but because this isn’t the right tool. The petitions trigger a debate in parliament if they’re successful enough. But Parliament won’t debate it until they’re sitting. By which time it will be too late to be relevant. I’m just not sure it’s useful. Sorry. Surely writing to your MP is the only way to go here?
Another credible addition shooting down the prevailing narrative
https://www.bitchute.com/video/2iSu0aRpoxoC/
Just drove into town. Still fairly busy, shops still open and sometimes you wouldn’t know about the ‘crisis’ if it weren’t for people wearing their stupid face masks.
But there was a strange moment where I approached a roundabout, and for a split second I was disorientated. What went through my mind was “Who is going to tell me what to do here?”. I have become so used to being told what to do when in the public space that when there are no traffic lights and I have have to actually make a decision i.e. I have some freedom, I am disorientated.
As I drove back, I kept getting ‘freedom flashbacks’ where a sight would trigger a memory of happy, carefree times. Physically nothing has changed, but mentally we are now imprisoned – and it is worse for most of us here because we don’t believe there’s a genuine reason for it all.
It’s slightly like the post-Brexit referendum years when many of us became aware of the fear and loathing of our fellow voters. It was a heavy mental burden that was there all the time, where you carried a secret that you might not even want your friends to know. In each social encounter you were braced for having to pretend to be something you weren’t. You became hyper-sensitised to the bias in the media.
For a couple of months at the start of this year, that particular problem was gone. Merely to be replaced with this sh*tshow.
“mentally we are now imprisoned”
No. Not if you become aware of your thinking and resist.
I will be on the ” front line ” this Christmas holiday . Usually my shift over Christmas involves enjoying a slice of Christmas cake courtesy of the out of hours provider interrupted by seeing the occasional screaming child with an earache and potentially much more serious the patient with suicidal ideation. The latter is always a feature of the Christmas festivities as the lonely and isolated experience a crisis.
I suspect I will be dealing with a lot more people with significant mental illnesses this Christmas caused by Johnson, Whitty , Handcock and Van Tam . As for Covid ? I continue to see far fewer people with respiratory symptoms than any normal year .
Must be the masks eh?
The evidence doesn’t support your assertion. No
I think that was a joke, but I agree, it’s no longer a laughing matter.
I would if I could but he lost it to Bill Gates playing Monopoly.
Delete
Delete
Petition:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564421
Only a couple of signatures added in the past half an hour.
We’ll send Judith to his tent by night.
If this new variant is throughout Europe now then WHY is it not having significant increases in “cases” in France and Spain.
News from there appears to have gone rather quiet….I wonder why?
It’s almost as if Johnson was too scared to back down on his Christmas plans and needed an excuse to get out of that hole.
Yes agreed. But if that becomes clear now then it will quickly unravel.
I think Johnson was scared to admit he was wrong over the 5 day play and the “science” was more than happy to oblige.
Trot out Ferguson who will thrown under a bus in January when he proven wrong YET again.
Johnson saves face and can take the credit for his caution.
Johnson has no face left to save. He’s just too much of a todger to realise that, and of course he derives misleading validation from his ludicrous butt plug Starmer.
Covaids will keep mutating down until it fully settles down into Corona Cold #5
As the others most likely did
As Sars1 probably did without anyone noticing
The latest excuse as to why they cannot use the Nightingale hospitals for the Covid overflow was provided this morning by Damien Collins MP who asked his local NHS trust. Apparently, the hospitals were only equipped for patients who need ventilators and they have changed the way that they treat Covid.
So, let me get this straight, they had the whole summer months to re-equip and adapt. We are locked down now because of their lack of planning.
But why would we even need to use them when many of our hospitals lie half (or more) empty?
It’s odd, given that Johnson can pluck a hundred billion out of his arse for pointless testing. Could the state really not afford a few bogs for the Nightingales?
i heard two stories on non use of the nightingales 1) they didn’t have enough toilets for those not bedbound i assume, and also that they didn’t have enough oxygen supplies or something (earlier on in the year from a friend who works in some care related in south west).
Seems a bit short sighted to not have made good the shortfalls and made them usable over the summer months to be ready for winter but i guess we are talking of the nhs here…
They were probably just theatrics. Even regular hospitals were mostly empty. Talk of adapting them was dismissed with the “game changer” of T&T.
Someone reported the London Excel one was dismantled this month, to be replaced by a vax centre.
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I understood they equipped them for bed bound mechanical ventilation and when they found people really needed oxygen but could move, they hadn’t got sufficient toilets installed…..
Also they had no extra personnel to staff them. Basically useless window dressing.
Quite dismayed at the likelihood of another lockdown which will see schools shut again for an unspecified time. Neil Fergusson may singlehandedly be the most damaging person to have a public voice in the 21st century so far.
Has anyone got any good news? Good personal anecdotes would be great as well. Starting to lose hope that this will ever end because people aren’t waking up to what they are doing to us.
Unfortunately not. I posted something on F***book last night in reponse to someone I know who had posted inaccurate, virtue signalling rubbish, my stating facts, figures and data and stating (once again) that my degree was in Microbiology, so I know something about it.
His response this morning? “bloody hell David, this is Facebook, not a scientific paper! I really don’t care what your degree is in” and “Comments posted by me on Facebook are generally to be regarded as “flippant” but sometimes with an edge of truth to them”.
DavidC
But doubtless of course you know and so does he if he’s honest that if you hadn’t mentioned your degree the response would have been “you’re not an expert so what you wrote is irrelevant”.
In a spat with someone else on F***book earlier in the year the response was ‘On what planet on Earth [sic] do you have a degree in Microbiology whan you know nothing about it?’!
DavidC
Clearly, you were displaying “the wrong kind of expertise”….
I think that Fergusson is a quack, but this one is on Boris. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice…
Yes. Ferguson would appear as the failed academic he is if it wasn’t for him being tolerated by government.
Just been to TESCO Hanley to do the fresh fruit and veg shopping before locking ourselves sin until the 29th – not covid, we just hate the “Christmas spirit” and as I’ve only had 8 at home in 32 years we have a habit of it being family time only with a good, long meal Christmas Day, Boxing Day, lie-ins, no mobiles, no telephones, no internet, no visitors, ignore the door and so on.
Many people believed the propaganda about empty shelves, no broccoli, no cauliflower, no lettuce etc and as the shop was stocked full of everything including all fresh veg and salad they started questioning what the TV “news” was saying especially as staff said the back was full of it as well and more lorries coming so don’t worry.
Many not very complimentary comments bout the BBC news were heard. It’s a start.
Or maybe Stokies don’t do fresh veg and salad.
The supply chain doesn’t disappear overnight
Have a peek in week or two
It was just heartening to hear all the comments about BBC, propaganda, lies, “call that news”, fake, idiots and so on.
Cheered me up no end, almost as much as when I was following an older couple round the shop who were obviously terrified of my free-face as they believe this mutant virus will kill us all in days, got in a few comments to Mrs Awkward they heard about it all being crap plus when the son turned up with his scary mask and I said “if you are with me you re exempt automatically so take it off” they went pale and turned and fled when he said “don’t want to, I enjoy scaring all the brain dead sheeple.
Good day out.
And how much of the salad and other freshveg will end up in the household bin?
Quite a bit i think but I’ll do my bit not to waste it, amazing what you can do wth leftovers – turkey and bread sauce pies, beef, barley and bean stews/pies, veg curries, sandwiches, veg curries, beef and blue cheese sandwiches, pasta bakes, soups, stews, loads of good stuff.
Sometimes the leftover meals from the 27th to new year are better than the food on the day.
Re schools I think they should keep all the children repeat one year. The schoolleavers do not have any jobs to go to anyway.
An interesting little moment on Christmas University Challenge yesterday. The BBC was at pains to stress that it was all Covid-compliant, so Paxman had to say “The contestants have made their way here complete with masks, hand-sanitiser and letters of transit…”.
Letters of transit? If you are legitimately making your way round a free country, why would you need a ‘letter of transit’? If you are travelling in a non-free country and the legislation demands such a letter, who is authorised to sign it, and what are legitimate reasons for having one? In this case, it is seemingly a television programme maker, and your activity is “Appear on a quiz show”.
To me, it seemed like a craven gesture; a capitulation to an idea of a loss of freedom that was not necessary. Cementing in the minds of the viewer that they, personally, don’t have the right to travel, but that special, essential people like quiz show contestants, and special organisations like the BBC, are in the privileged position of being able to create these special pieces of paper.
I remember when Paxo was on Newsnight and had to tell the weather forecast at the end of the programme. Some of his sarcasm nearly had me in tears. I was disappointed when he rode the tandem with Boris Johnson on his last programme though.
DavidC
If so, it’s not much of a joke. I don’t think he was joking, anyway.
To be clear, I personally have travelled in ‘lockdown’ for work purposes, and early on it crossed my mind that I should get my employer to send me an email I could wave under the snout of any policeman who stopped me. But it wouldn’t be legally necessary I don’t think – but it just might be necessary in practice. I wouldn’t suggest to anyone else that it was a good, or necessary thing.
It would only be a joke in the pre-Covid world where “Your papers, please” was so alien it was funny – and only happened to foreigners.
Yes, obviously a Casablanca reference, like ‘The Usual Suspects’.
Here the fortunate ones through money or influence or luck might obtain exit visas and scurry to Lisbon, and from Lisbon to the New World. But the others wait in Casablanca. And wait. And wait. And wait.
Letters of transit sounds very continental. In France you need to download an attestation form to be shown to the police if you are outside during the covid curfew. The French are used to this from the war and the occupation and think that its normal. Weird world eh ?
They feature in Casablanca, a film set in the Second World War with Nazis about.
Ugarte: What right do I have to think?..Too bad about those two German couriers, wasn’t it?
Rick: They got a lucky break. Yesterday, they were just two German clerks. Today, they’re the Honored Dead.
Ugarte: You are a very cynical person, Rick, if you forgive me for saying so.
Rick: I forgive you.
Ugarte: You despise me, don’t you?
Rick: Well, if I gave you any thought, I probably would.
Ugarte: But why? Oh, you object to the kind of business I do, huh? But think of all those poor refugees who must rot in this place if I didn’t help them. Well that’s not so bad, through ways of my own, I provide them with exit visas.
Rick: For a price, Ugarte, for a price.
Ugarte: But think of all the poor devils who can’t meet Renault’s price. I get it for them for half. Is that so parasitic?
Rick: I don’t mind a parasite. I object to a cut-rate one.
these are not quiz show contestants.. ie. not ordinary people. The christmas editions are former students of institutions who have gone on to some noteworthy career. Most of them i havent heard of . And they tend to be establishment – medical, academia, quango, Guardian, BBC etc etc . Basically all from the areas that are perpetuating the lockdown shit show. So yes they are all priveleged.
Wouldnt surprise me if Imperial are on featuring Ferguson.
Oh yes, there can be queasiness-inducing contestants on that show. Last year they had the founder of some women’s equality party – or whatever. Last night they had a Trump Derangement-based question regarding articles and books written by Trump’s former members of staff – with quotes of how they have slagged him off. Not the classiest question they have ever had on the show.
How tv want us to believe they stick to guidelines and we are in the same boat is such a joke. Neighbours today scene in hospital. Background artist in mask, main characters not.
Yes, I quite like to watch that show. Why not?
We are being psychologically tortured by Government and SAGE so that we surrender and accept a future we wouldn’t normally accept – a future of vaccines, vaccine boosters and immunity passports
A future heavily invested in by Pharma, Gates and tech industries that promises profits forever
‘The future is clear, and it’s dystopian.’ Neil Clark writes
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/497272-clear-health-pass-covid-dystopian/
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I thought you were going to post something intelligent for a moment, Ben.
I even agree with some of what you say here.
The future isn’t known, however, and not everyone is signed up to the WEF. But you keep on promoting it if you want to.
It’s not as though we haven’t heard enough about it already this morning.
I’m happy to hear your theories as to why our lives, and the lives of those in every country around the world are being systematically destroyed – and there is no end in sight
Have a good day
“I thought you were going to post something intelligent for a moment, Ben.”
If you spent some time addressing your insecurities you wouldn’t have to insult others in order to make yourself feel better. Just saying.
The ‘incompetence theorist is at it again I see. I think about 194 countries are signed up to it. It happened on Cameron’s watch – funny, I don’t recall it appearing in any manifesto or any debate in Parliament.
Why are you so keen to shoot this down when you haven’t been arsed to even have a look for yourself?
Hold on, are you negging Ben? I think you’ve got the wrong forum.
“More people asked about this than almost any other topic: given that golf is allowed in England, why have golf courses and outdoor tennis courts closed?”
Drakeford:
“At this point in the pandemic, when things are as serious as they are and the impact on our health service is as serious as it is, we have to have the maximum impact and every little bit does help. …
But I don’t think it would have been sensible to start unravelling what we need to do at this point when things are at their most serious. Just as golf and tennis have their advocates we also have people who want to go fishing and people who want to fly pigeons.”
Bloody pigeon fanciers, wanting to kill Granny with their feathery death-laden flying Covid-bombs.
Does this man live in the real world?
He missed the point completely didn’t he? It was almost a rhetorical question to make the point that it’s all nonsense.
Insanity.
Couldn’t put it better myself:
https://youtu.be/gKOo8rd6T7s
Me neither..
France.. Macron’s making the most of this UK virus strain non event. Already his minions are demanding permanent strict lockdown of France after 26th December. Its almost as if this were in perfect Lock-Step.. eh!
The bastards are really going for it now.
https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/France-will-need-another-lockdown-from-December-26-say-expert-professors
I see all the emphasis is on cases rather than hospitalisation and deaths.
Yes.. same old same old.Keep repeating a lie long enough and it eventually becomes the truth. More bought and paid for ‘expert-professors’
Literally taking any excuse to flex their authoritarianism.
Yes I’m afraid so. Although in UK at the moment I spend the greater part of my life in France, and since the brutal put down of the Gilet Jaune movement it seems France is even more under the cosh than the UK and are submitting to it. 6 year olds wearing masks for example. Just like UK the country is being systematicly destroyed. It makes me feel sick to watch..
Now all continents infected. Chile had a „robust“ response with LD and masks in abundance
https://twitter.com/AntarcticReport/status/1341322201849425921
Antartica is no longer free of COVID-19! The Chilean army today reported 36 personnel at O’Higgins Base have tested positive (26 military and 10 civilians); the station has been undergoing the annual exchange of personnel over the last few weeks; pic
‘Positive’…
Were they healthy and asymptomatic? Crucial information really
Something’s in the air.
bozo headed for the number one Crimbo novelty pop slot.
Peaking #2 UK iTunes AND Amazon music let’s give this one last push and really piss hancock off !
I thought this was a joke, but yes, you’re right!
Thanks Karenovirus. Best 79 pence I’ve ever spent.
Great lyrics too. Very poignant.
I urge you all to push it to number 1.
Love the parental warning!
What a jolly little ditty. Very catchy. Hope it takes the top spot.
now 70% more catchy than it was last week…
Delete
9,334.
Lord Ridley on Sky News saying we need to have a serious rethink on whether “Lockdowns have achieved anything”.
“We have to be honest with ourselves”
Surprised he was allowed to say it but he’s right.
The problem isn’t people being “allowed” to say something.
People can say what they like.
The issue is whether people with views like this are given airtime and whether the programme editors broadcast them.
It’s a good start and it just goes to show that creepy Claus doesn’t control everyone in the media as some here would have us believe.
“The problem isn’t people being “allowed” to say something.”
Yes it is, becuse if sceptics had been allowed to debate this issue on a level playing-field, then this would all have been over by June at the latest.
The most important component holding this narrative in place in the censorship of dissent – in broadcast media and on the Internet.
Are you not aware of the level of censorship on: youtube, Dacebook, Twitter etc.
The very fact that there is so much censorship is an acknowledgement by the purveyors of the narrative of how important this is.
But you presumably (feel free to correct me if I’m wrong) don’t apply the same judgement to the longstanding similar censorship and suppression of “racist” views in our societies.
As it happens imo you are correct on this topic – that the censorship and suppression of dissent reflects the importance of the coronapanic narrative to the powerful, and exactly the same applies to the past and ongoing suppression of “racism”, which was every bit as important to the powerful for a similar mix of policy and ideological reasons.
I didn’t agree with everything the “racists” said any more than I agree with everything the “anti-lockdowners” and “anti-vaxxers” say, but I did recognise the same suppression of dissent, and have opposed it, on both occasions.
Supporting freedom of speech means defending speech you dislike, not speech you like. By the time it gets around to the latter, it’s usually too late. As on this occasion.
Much needed post.
It was an excellent interview. Colin Brazier let him speak (Adam Boulton would have shouted over him). Although he was co-signatory on a letter from a group of Tory Lords criticising the second lockdown, I’ve not seem him out on TV before. Interesting.
Adam Boulton is the Sky attack dog. A very unpleasant man on screen.
Maybe he’s a nice chap in real life but I’m dubious.
Field report Covid Safe GP Practice Report.
Yesterday at 11am I phoned my GP practice to arrange an online consultation about the recurrence of a pre Covid medical condition.
This concluded with the Medical Receptionist saying I would be telephoned between 14.00 and 18.00 that very afternoon.
Fair enough the call came at 17.20.
Andrew introduced himself as the Senior Nursing Practitioner. We discussed my case and my preferred options with which he agreed.
Andrew did not ask why I had not taken their offer of the seasonal flu needle penetration nor whether I would be getting stabbed for the Covid.
Meds dispensed 09.30 this morning.
9 out of 10.
My daughter sent me this, from our cousins across the pond.
A friend of mine who is currently suffering a relapse in her MS has just had a snitch report her to the police for her mum and dad being there. They are looking after her! People should mind their own f’ing business. I have been wanting to put something like this up in a window since Foetida Dick first mentioned snitching but Mr said it might draw unwanted attention so I haven’t up to now.
Would the snitchers snitch if they were not anonymous? Of course not. Cowards. They’re terrified of dying, but don’t realise that they’re dead on the inside.
we should all take that view.
Ominous:
Costco has had a face covering policy in effect since 24.04.20, but members who could not wear a face mask due to a medical condition were exempt. This is no longer the case. If a member/guest has a medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask, they must instead wear a face shield. The use of a face covering should not be seen as a substitute for social distancing. Please continue to observe rules regarding appropriate distancing while on Costco premises.
COSTCO just annouce exempt from maskwearing members must now wear visors.
Face covering requirements with added face shield requirement for exempt members
Effective 23.12.20, we will require all members, guests and employees to wear a face covering (that covers the nose and mouth) at all Costco warehouse locations. Entry to Costco will only be granted to those wearing a face mask or a face shield. Children under the age of 11 are exempt. Please note that the additional requirement to wear a face shield for children over the age of 11 does not affect the requirement in Scotland for children age 5 and over to wear a face covering
Costco has had a face covering policy in effect since 24.04.20, but members who could not wear a face mask due to a medical condition were exempt. This is no longer the case. If a member/guest has a medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask, they must instead wear a face shield. The use of a face covering should not be seen as a substitute for social distancing. Please continue to observe rules regarding appropriate distancing while on Costco premises.
Whilst this updated policy may seem inconvenient for some, we believe that the added safety is worth any inconvenience. Our goal is to continue to provide a safe shopping environment for our members and guests, and to provide a safe work environment
for our employees.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.
Louie Silveira
Vice President and Country Manager
Costco UK & Iceland
I understand risk assesments are a thing of the past – enforced medical intervention is not okay Louie.
Defund Costco
Boycott Costco.
Sorry Basics! Great minds obvioulsy thinking alike
Apologies if you’re about to have lunch, but I saw this image and immediately thought of Cecil B.
For some reason that image triggers in my mind the name ‘David Cameron’.
Yes,indeed!
It’s got Cameron’s arse
It’s the part of Cameron that it’s just had in its mouth that worries me.
How did Johnson rise to prominence in the Tory Party?
I look nothing like that
I got all excited for a minute that someone had taken my human centipede cabinet suggestion literally.
The Ferguson/Whitty/Vallance nexus knows its base, and how to bring them back in!
Just received the following email from Costco (I have no idea how I’m on their mailing list – I must have signed up about 9 years ago when first setting up my design business and went a few times).
I reckon they take the latest yellow mattress award.
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Face covering requirements with added face shield requirement for exempt members
Effective 23.12.20, we will require all members, guests and employees to wear a face covering (that covers the nose and mouth) at all Costco warehouse locations. Entry to Costco will only be granted to those wearing a face mask or a face shield. Children under the age of 11 are exempt. Please note that the additional requirement to wear a face shield for children over the age of 11 does not affect the requirement in Scotland for children age 5 and over to wear a face covering
Costco has had a face covering policy in effect since 24.04.20, but members who could not wear a face mask due to a medical condition were exempt. This is no longer the case. If a member/guest has a medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask, they must instead wear a face shield. The use of a face covering should not be seen as a substitute for social distancing. Please continue to observe rules regarding appropriate distancing while on Costco premises.
Whilst this updated policy may seem inconvenient for some, we believe that the added safety is worth any inconvenience. Our goal is to continue to provide a safe shopping environment for our members and guests, and to provide a safe work environment
for our employees.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.
Louie Silveira
Vice President and Country Manager
Costco UK & Iceland
There are businesses that deserve bankruptcy.
Sadly, they are probably not the ones that will get it. But we can all ‘do our bit.’
I will use a flimsy plastic face shield but have it positioned upwards so I can coof freely
His sign off is a calculated insult.
Haven’t been there for a while but when my membership is due for renewal in January I’ll let it lapse.
All retail may follow .Bad news
isnt Costco’s main customer base the small independent shops restaurants etc. i.e the ones who have been closed, suffering most and going out of business. This must have affected their turnover . So strange they want to drive more business away
The UK Government, the gift that just keeps giving and giving but it is Christmas after all.
Just had a reply from PHE about what a positive RT-PCR test result means, here it is with my answer below (my highlighting):
And my reply:
They really do not have a clue do they?
They say what they are told to say and have the arrogance to think that no-one will actually check the veracity of what they are saying.
You sir, for the work that you are doing on our behalf, are a star – worth a million of these bone headed civil serpents. I salute you.
well said
These people are drug addicts, they get high on the slightest whiff of SARS-CoV-2.
Well done. And no. They have no clue at all.
I like your last sentence.
It says a lot without using the words.
PCR is not a calibrated or standardised test either. It is a datamining exercise. You anplify until a signal is achieved then try and determine what that means. It’s qualitative at best.
For it to be a test it must have tightly controlled inputs, characterised procedures and a clear output with known workable uncertainties.
It’s none of that. And that’s even for general use. In general use like for MSRA and flu it’s generally used when there are symptoms hence you get a signal for low cycles.
Apply that thinking to testing people in general and it falls apart.
Absolute typical extrapolation beyond the bounds of use.
I believe the tests are being used to compile a population-wide DNA database.. Probably then on sale to big pharma and any business to whom it might be useful – like insurance companies, for example.
FOIA response from Kent CCG confirms they have no idea what cycle threshold is being used on the test. They have no idea if it can identify an infectious individual or not.and they have no idea what the operational false positive rate is.
Apart from that they’re fantastic.
Matches my replies from amy councils, authorities, mayors and devolved governments.
None of them can supply any science whatsoever.
All they say is “we are just following orders”.
So again, the liars and corrupt globalists going after schools and children in the name of this “deadly” virus, media going into over drive today about closing schools next month so they probably will as Johnson is such a weak minded cretin who only follows his masters at davos and who. Ferguson being constantly in the loop, despite his failed idiotic predictions in the past, should worry every parent That smug c**t should be hanging from a tree along with the boiled egg eyed lizard Whitty and big pharma paycheck Valance.
be like joel and get behind pcrclaims:-
https://twitter.com/RealJoelSmalley/status/1341264005160202242
Seems they bring out The Ferguson whenever they need a worst case scenario to justify any actions they intend to take.
Maybe it’s not so much his expertise they value but rather nobody else wants to provide the worst case scenarios that they desire.
Slade:
“It’s hard having fun nowadays
So we just gotta find some new ways
It’s so hard having fun nowadays“
Merry Christmas everybody!
Just received this email from Costco
“Effective 23.12.20, we will require all members, guests and employees to wear a face covering (that covers the nose and mouth) at all Costco warehouse locations. Entry to Costco will only be granted to those wearing a face mask or a face shield. Children under the age of 11 are exempt. Please note that the additional requirement to wear a face shield for children over the age of 11 does not affect the requirement in Scotland for children age 5 and over to wear a face covering
Costco has had a face covering policy in effect since 24.04.20, but members who could not wear a face mask due to a medical condition were exempt. This is no longer the case. If a member/guest has a medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask, they must instead wear a face shield. The use of a face covering should not be seen as a substitute for social distancing. Please continue to observe rules regarding appropriate distancing while on Costco premises.
Whilst this updated policy may seem inconvenient for some, we believe that the added safety is worth any inconvenience. Our goal is to continue to provide a safe shopping environment for our members and guests, and to provide a safe work environment
for our employees.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.”
surely that is illegal.
Thats outrageous, a shield is also a face covering and if you can be exempt from that under medical grounds (anxiety or PTSD) as well.
Possibly for those suffering from mental issues.
Won’t know until the first court case
On the face of it it’s only illegal if you can plausibly claim that someone would be “legitimately” exempt from wearing both facemasks and visors. It’s a bit of a stretch to justify being exempt from wearing a visor since it’s basically irrelevant as far as breathing is concerned. And therefore also as far as infection is concerned, barring people actually spitting on each other.
You could claim anxiety etc but it’s hard to do so credibly imo over a piece of transparent, unfitted plastic.
It’s equivalent really to requiring customers to wear some kind of symbolic badge to be allowed in – in other words the only real defence is refusing to go there. The issue for them is will they lose more customers by doing this, or by not doing it and the mask rule being routinely ignored.
In a way, it’s kind of a declaration of war by Costco on lockdown/facemask dissenters, so we should respond appropriately. If it is allowed to spread life will get much more unpleasant.
This is the fear, that Costco is setting a new ‘gold standard’ for retailers. If they all march in lockstep, none need fear losing sales (at least, not proportionately to other providers).
It is difficult to resist the feeling that it would be good for something bad to happen to Costco. Like a thunderbolt from Heaven, or plague, or an earthquake. A sign.
If they all do it then it becomes direct discrimination as to get round it they need to be able to point to choice. So if Lidl don’t apply this then go shop at Lidl.
But if they all do it they all become liable.
We are still in the positive feedback cycle the government created.
More fear, fuels a desire for people to go far beyond what the rules require. This in term increases the fear, and encourages others to do the same.
I am astonished by the lack of questioning. Is this really necessary? It is assumed so.
A pub near me, has the sign “No Mask No Entry” with no mention of any exemptions. They have several similar signs on their windows.
I was going to take it up with the landlord, but they are closed now anyway under T4.
Shows how far compliance gets you.
Myself, I would claim exemption on the grounds of mental health, not breathing impairment. Being forced to participate in the face-covering charade damages my mental health, irrespective of whether it’s a mask or a visor.
The government’s actions have driven me into clinical depression and the imposition of pointless face coverings (whatever the type) exacerbates my condition.
defo the way to go
They are already trying to weed out the asthma sufferers
Only the hardiest of dissenters will follow that path, though, which leaves them with fewer to confront.
Costco needs to be made to pay a price, but do we have the numbers or influence to outweigh the fanatics pushing in the other direction?
Good reason not to go to Costco.
Well I’ve never set foot in a costco, but I did notice an increase in strimmer face shields out on the street today.
It is outrageous, but I fear they can get around this blatant discrimination by citing the (2010) Equality Act and claiming their actions are ‘a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim.’ Is there a more ‘noble’ ‘legitimate aim’ than ‘keeping everyone safe’?
Safeism is the unchallengeable new quasi-religion.
I suggest taking your money elsewhere.
I hope Costco go out of business. They deserve to
Well. WHO guidance clearly says there is no (NO) benefit at all from face shields. Email them and tell them this and ask for their risk assessment that enabled this policy change. Inform them they have a period of reply, short, before they are reported to the HSE for endangering the public.
They will stop this immediately is my bet.
A face shield, I thought even the “experts” said these didn’t work.
It’s more about making people comply to the rules..a method of subjugation..
Now I’m self-employed I was going to sign up to them – they can fuck right off now.
I hope the below helps you out. I am not a member of Costco but this angers me so much that I wanted to help you out with a push back. By all means change what you don’t like. But please do use some of it if you can.
There email address is customer_care_escalations@costco.co.uk.
(Starts)
Dear Costco,
I have been made aware of your company decision to removal any exemptions on face coverings within your stores from 23/12. I believe your decision to be illegal and harmful.
Firstly, it is important to understand that under WHO guidance face shields offer NO protection in regards to viral spread, either as a preventative or as barrier to contamination. Specific within WHO Guidance “they are inferior to mask(s) with respect to prevention of droplet transmission. If face shields are to be used, ensure proper design to cover the sides of the face and below the chin”. I note you have not advised members of any specifics, nor have you empowered them with evidence that their risk is unlikely to be reduced through the measure you are insisting upon.
Secondly, your mandate is outside of UK law. The law provides important protection for vulnerable persons from compromising their health by wearing face coverings – this includes those who have a non-physical rationale for not wearing any restrictions across their face, for example victims of sexual attack would be adverse from wearing any facial covering, even clear shields across their face. I’d advise researching this topic in detail if you are unsure.
While I would hope I that your health and Safety advisers would be aware that the benefit from face coverings in a community setting is considered to be (very) low. This mandate does not give me full confidence that they do so.
Is the decision to implement additional risk controls in response to a highlighted reality that your stores present a significant risk? Risk Assessments need to be evidenced based so it is reasonable to ask that if you are feeling compelled to implement such measures as 100% mask compliance, that you have new and compelling evidence a risk of transmission in your stores. However, your website does not indicate this to be the case, why not?
Face coverings are only deemed of benefit when used with other control measures that may, reasonably, help to reduce viral load transmission. Principally Social Distancing, hand hygiene and self-quarantine of the sick are the primary risk control measures. Face Coverings, whether plastic shields or fabric etc simply add very little benefit, but absolutely no benefit as a stand-alone measure.
Therefore if your customers follow your other safety protocols, they are able to shop without risk and would have no need to compelled under your mandate to wear a face covering (including shields). So it find it rather surprising that your H&S advisers appear to be breaching UK law to insist on this method of viral control.
Both your company wide, and store specific Risk Assessments should both show the benefit and harms from all your risk control methods. And Specifically to face coverings, in line with WHO guidance, there are many risks associated with face coverings in a community settings and these are as follows.;
Potential harms/disadvantages The likely disadvantages of the use of mask by healthy people in the general public include: • potential increased risk of self-contamination due to the manipulation of a face mask and subsequently touching eyes with contaminated hands; • potential self-contamination that can occur if nonmedical masks are not changed when wet or soiled. This can create favourable conditions for microorganism to amplify; • potential headache and/or breathing difficulties, depending on type of mask used; • potential development of facial skin lesions, irritant dermatitis or worsening acne, when used frequently for long hours; • difficulty with communicating clearly; • potential discomfort; • a false sense of security, leading to potentially lower adherence to other critical preventive measures such as physical distancing and hand hygiene; • poor compliance with mask wearing, in particular by young children; • waste management issues; improper mask disposal leading to increased litter in public places, risk of contamination to street cleaners and environment hazard; • difficulty communicating for deaf persons who rely on lip reading; • disadvantages for or difficulty wearing them, especially for children, developmentally challenged persons, those with mental illness, elderly persons with cognitive impairment, those with asthma or chronic respiratory or breathing problems, those who have had facial trauma or recent oral maxillofacial surgery, and those living in hot and humid environments.
I would welcome sight of your Risk Assessment to confirm that, at the very least, all the above have been considered as part of your rationale of imposing face shields on customers.
I am copying this email to the HSE so they are aware of this issue.
(Ends)
Excellent letter
Good letter. There’s also an exemption for face coverings for mentally disabled people who are unable to wear them. Also, one might have a physical injury, cancer etc on the face/head area that made it difficult or impossible to wear a face shield.
Just wrote to the CEO
Dear Sir,
I’ve just read that your company is requiring members who are exempt from wearing face coverings that they must wear a visor as of 23/12/2020.
This is against the law & is in breach of section 29 of the Equality Act 2010.
Please see below;
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own
I bring your attention to this section,
Face visors or shields
A face visor or shield may be worn in addition to a face covering but not instead of one. This is because face visors or shields do not adequately cover the nose and mouth.
I therefore say that your UK shops have no legal right to insist that a visor be worn by an exempt person.
I ask that you repeal this instruction to your UK stores forthwith before your company finds itself in a court of law trying to defend your actions.
Got this in reply
Thank you For the note .but we do have a responsibility to protect our employees and members. All the best.Craig
His email address is cjelinek@costco.com
Did my above email drat provide anything for you to go back on ?
I hope Craig eventually passes his English Language CSE.
Comrade Stalin Starmer in you tube saying we are in a serious emergency – all due to Wancock’s monster lie in the house and Stalin has fallen for it hook line and sinker. Yes we are in an emergency not due to a harmless variant but because the LIE has led to the virtual collapse of the Stock Exchange and Sterling not to mention Europe closing it’s borders to us. What is wrong with our politicians. Moral of the story for Johnson is STOP LISTENING TO UR LYING DECEITFUL INCOMPETENT SAGE SCIENTISTS GROW SOME AND PUT AN IMMEDIATE STOP THIS.
Earlier today in so-called Tier 4 I bumped into a mate I hadn’t seen for a while. We shook hands (‘Fine them!’), had a manly hug (‘Arrest them!!’) and said we need to meet up for a drink (‘Cancel that – execute them!!!’) I said how about we get our families together on Christmas Eve and have a cheeky scotch (I had no idea whether or not he’d fallen for government propaganda, but my gut said he wasn’t going to adhere to the bastards’ arbitrary diktats). His face lit up: ‘Yes mate!’ So we openly mocked the power-crazed tyrants and made arrangements for Christmas Eve.
Today is a good day. I feel human again. It feels just like old times.
Our humanity will be their downfall.
Nice to hear about this but I think it is a minority now.
Quite so. I was doing my weekly shopping today: the place was much more packed than usual (well, not a surprise of course), but I did not see a single other unmasked human!
Comment of the day for me. And sooo true!
Arnie.
After we’ve done hanging the bastards.
I have reported you to the Covid-Marshals. They’re busy at the moment, so expect the 3am knock in about 3 days time.
Prepare a bucket of ice-water (for instance)
Great I am so glad to hear that.
Best thing I’ve read in ages. Lifted my spirits
Makes me realise the crime the Government, SAGE, the media (Kay Burley et al) have inflicted on us and what they’ve stolen from us – human connection
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That’s horrific!
The perfect Christmas gift for a virtue-signalling psychopath mom:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dream-Bridge-Protective-Detachable-Isolation/dp/B086X5KR9K/ref=sr_1_6
Read the reviews, if you can stomach it.
For example:
Needed a summer hat for my active toddler and this is the perfect hat for a summer pandemic.
Has a face shield visor that is Velcro detachable. It has a nice wide brim for all around sun protection and has a strap for little ones so the hat doesn’t blow off or they don’t yank it off. Though my little one is quite clever and figured out how to yank it off anyways.
Though the mum’s obviously a lost cause, there’s hope for the child.
Hard to fool a baby
Tragic
Seen something similar just now at Borough Market..The New normal
Yes. Extreme. Though our increasing obsession with cleanliness, of food, surfaces and covering kids with sun tan lotions is also hurting them. A little soil on our veggies adds to our microbiome.And sun tan lotions prevent the formation of vitamin d.
In 20 years this kid will have earned the highest honors available to camp guards.
The unfortunate child will be dead in months of symptoms related to extreme hypoxia.
Is this for real?
Finally posted a critical comment on a YT couple who muzzle their foster children all under 6 and who have had no play dates or school since March.
Jesus Christ.
An invocation, not a blasphemy.
“Robert West, a Professor of Health psychology at University College London’s Institute of Epidemiology and Health, who sits on the advisory group on behavioural science for SAGE”
Another behavioural psychologist, not a virologist, immunologist, biologist, epidemiologist…
Check out his Twitter feed.
He’s on the same political side as Susan Michie (Communist Party UK member) and George Monbiot (climate change activist), hates the government and publicly criticises it.
https://mobile.twitter.com/robertjwest?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
I wouldn’t call him a reliable and non-partisan advisor.
“Robert West Retweeted
Marcus Chown
@marcuschown
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19 Dec
Never forget that in the countries that did things right, they are back to normal. Even in Wuhan they are down to essentially no Covid cases.
Meanwhile, in the UK, as Covid cases skyrocket and a third catastrophic lockdown appears inevitable…
You can thank this man (photo of Boris).”
He’s retreating someone who is praising the Chinese Communist Party, who, if the videos are to be believed, barricaded people into their own homes and left them there, some of them to starve. This is the model that Robert West appears to favour, and he’s advising the government.
All crawling out of the woodwork
It is quite remarkable just how many rank authoritarian lefty and pc fanatic types (old commies and virtue signalling social climbers, basically) seem to have been allowed to infest SAGE. That seems to be down to Whitty and Vallance who, as I understand the situation, are responsible by virtue of their offices for choosing the contributors to SAGE.
Still seeing only what you want to see through your broken left/right spectacles?
In this country, this is predominantly a right wing coup initiative with support across the political spectrum.
Well it’s pretty clear who has the “broken left/right spectacles” here, given that just about every institution and figurehead of the left, from Blairites to Corbyn and Corbynites, academia, and media elites, has come out as fanatical pro-lockdown panickers and indeed it was largely their hysterical screams about “putting money ahead of lives” and “herd immunity is eugenics” that drove this country off the Swedish-style path it was planning to follow in Feb/early March.
In reality of course, you have no realistic case. Your fantasy of a “right-wing” driven initiative has always been false, as a direct result of your false, dogmatically limited, old state socialist view of left/right as purely about economics and nominal control of resources. In reality, left/right is about far more than that – the economic issue you obsess about was resolved in the 1970s (your side was comprehensively defeated), and you just have never managed to move on from that defeat.
Your position requires us to believe that “right wing” includes the likes of Jeremy Corbyn, and “right-wingers” are people who desperately worship the NHS, refuse to protect the nation’s borders or curtail the ongoing radical experiment with the existence of the nation by mass immigration, believe in unlimited state spending from the magical money forest, and approve of draconian hate speech etc laws to suppress dissent from leftist minority-worshipping divide and rule indoctrination.
That’s your fantasy “right-wing” for you.
Not sure how relevant actions are categorised.
“people who desperately worship the NHS (like clap for and save the NHS mantras) refuse to protect the nation’s borders or curtail the ongoing radical experiment with the existence of the nation by mass immigration” (like those immigrants arriving in Kent, being taken to 4-star hotels and receiving £40 per week spending money?) believe in unlimited state spending from the magical money forest (like Rickey Sunak’s profligacy? ) and approve of draconian hate speech etc laws to suppress dissent (like those that have recently been used, with the aid of 77th brigade, to attack criticisms and
stifle debate on scientific matters that counter the government’s covid narrative)
The globalists in the West are apolitical in the traditional left/right sense.
They are all just crooks.
Big Pharma, Big Tech, Social media giants, Hedge funds, Soros etc etc are all profiting immensely and have unfettered and / or monopolistic market access. Reuters, Bloomberg are right in their, as of course are Blackrock, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan etc etc.
Having said that, clearly China has an active all-encompassing global agenda and has joint effective control of the WHO along with Bill Gates.
Control WHO and you control global ‘health’.
Gates realised this 20 years ago.
It’ a confluence of disparate interests in operation right now.
“the advisory group on behavioural science for SAGE”
That’s not SAGE per se – it’s the SPI-B sub-group.
And they did this to set the tone for the world. Other parts of China were less strict. The CCP set up panic scenes so when Dickhead Cummings, freshly breathing his own farts, saw Italy he was caught in the ruse. Oh my God.
There has never been a control group in the UK so they aren’t following any science. There are a few controls around the world all of which, even Brazil, show this thing is far from catastrophe. The better off countries should have fared way better holistically if left just to get on with it.
But no. We needed decisive “scientific” action.
“We needed decisive “scientific” action.”
So HCQ and other early-intervention treatments were denied by the malicious government and three or four times as many people as needed to ended up in ICU unnecessarily.
(Just another silly mistake.)
BBC: 80k Excess deaths.
I love this “analysis”: This total is larger than that recorded in the daily figures because it includes people whose Covid-19 was not confirmed by a positive test and people who died because of the strain the pandemic has put on the NHS and society.
So no mention of lockdown or how much is normal random variation. John Lee on talkradio today mentioned that the 5 year average is pretty meaningless, we need to go over a longer period.
“people who died because of the strain the pandemic has put on the NHS and society.”
So disingenuous. The “pandemic” hasn’t put any strain on me. The government’s response, on the other hand, has made my life unbearable
Yet another hallmark of this hoo-haa, statistics presented in isolation with no context or comparison. Of these 80k a quick rough check indicates that over 50k of them were in the April/May period and we all know what happened then. Again very rough maths, that leaves around 30k excess deaths if one discounts the April/May figures, this would be 5% excess over the 5 year average which would not be a shockingly unlikely rise for a country like the UK with a rapidly aging population.
It would also be useful to know how these excess death figures pan out in terms of age of death?
But even so I would argue that it was only the deaths situation in April/May that in any way gave any justification for the loss of human and civil rights and freedoms that we have suffered all year. From June onwards the health and death situation has in no way justified the loss of rights and freedoms that have been unjustly imposed on us.
Covid 19 has been across two seasons. Flu is usually recorded as one. In one flu season we recently had 50,000 excess deaths. Context. It’s all in the context.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/coronavirus-restrictions-ireland-taoiseach-announces-return-to-level-5-from-christmas-eve-39891319.html
Ireland back into Lockdown from Christmas Eve. The rat from Cork spinning the lie that lockdowns save lives.
Summary of Mehole Martin’s address to the nation:
Virus spread, unsustainable, worried, vulnerable, heavy price, heavy heart, saving lives, level 5 plus / minus from xmas eve, fuck the hotels and restaurants, fuck the UK mutants, very worried, fuck the Church, don’t die, get married on your own, 1 household only, challenges, vigilant, concerned, she’s gonna blow, thank you, light at end of tunnel (vaccines), merry xmas.
Unprecedented, Granny, normal, let it rip, great job so far, sacrifices, financial support, The Science, All Island Approach, Zero Covid, testing
At what point do they break their beloved Good Friday agreement e.g. if NI was not in Lockdown and they went for Sturgeon style border closures?
If this was genuinely about health, the NI border would be closed. That it is open says everything you need to know.
Welcome to the club.
Regent Street. Just now. 3 days before Christmas. A great city being destroyed deliberately.
And it’s happening around the world. Is it the World Economic Forum’s ‘Great Reset’ or something else?
I refuse to accept this is ‘incompetence’
Its not incompetence Ben.. its pure unadulterated planned malice..
It’s is opportunism
garnished with a slice of blackmail for all the yew tree enthusiasts in various Parliaments
It’s been destroyed since April..All the little cafes -gone, little corner shops -gone, even most branches of BigHig street companies -gone, theather -closed , museums -closed, tailors for fuck sake -closed.. The City and London is a shell of it’s former self and It will never recover. The place now feel like Sophia circa 1999 ( I know,I was there)
I was there in ‘96. I can vouch for that
I assume you mean Sofia, Bulgaria? If so I was just thinking that last time I was in London – it’s now more like a small central/eastern European capital around 1990, in terms of the numbers of people around and the general depressed mood of the place.
Hard to believe Parliament would sit back while it happened
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564421
whatsapp.. facebook.. youtube.. share share share
Sent, shared. signed.
In return, please spare 79p to push that Kunts song up the i-Tunes charts to number 1.
Just purchased, it’s quite catchy
Kunt’s social media is getting yeeted as we speak – as per his Fecalbook
Understand your last sentence totally. My mother was 92 when she died a couple of years ago. She would have been head of the escape committee in her care home
How many times do these ‘experts’ have to get their wild predictions of death and the overwhelming of the NHS wrong, before the zombies start to twig there’s something wrong. When someone tells them for the thousandth time that they’re going to die if they try to live, does it still cause them the same visceral fear as the first time?
Will they ever wake up, or are they too far gone now?
I just can’t understand them at all.
You underestimate the power of Fear propaganda – it doesn’t work at the level of rationality.
Too far gone. They believe that the actions of the experts have saved them from the predictions coming true.
Therein lies the rub.
Agree with Rick below- cult members are not persuaded by facts or data
examples include doomsday cults such as the Millerites – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Disappointment
when the apocalypse does not come they either double down on their beliefs or alternatively feel that their prayers and sacrifices have averted the monster
Hence the next time doom is predicted there will be more intense prayers and sacrifice
Reasoning with these people is very challenging
I posted the below yesterday and here is the bbc summary of the year!
Covid-19: UK sees over 80,000 excess deaths during pandemic – BBC News
No proper context, probing or independent analysis – I am paying (tv licence) chimps to feed me peanuts!
A COVID CAROL – EXCESS DEATHS
Just to confirm for those that remain sound of mind today, excess deaths by location still point to blanket lockdowns being the greatest cock-up policy of the century! And that’s before the next 1-3 years of huge lockdown collateral damage through unemployment, etc.
Excess mortality in England, week ending 04 December 2020 (phe.org.uk)
So, two simple xmas / new year questions to ask those individuals who still support full lockdowns including boris et al:
Rational conclusion – public health “experts” now need to carry a health warning like cigarettes.
Can that tv licence, Tony. You know it makes sense.
I watched Only Connect last night. At the start Victoria Coren gave some little homily about the need for us all to wear masks. What gives her the right to grandstand on a quiz programme? Imagine the fuss if she had said something against face nappies… So, that another person I have to hate forever.
After that I watched Upstart Crow, which contained a large amount of pro-lockdown/new normal virtue signalling. So, that’s Coren’s husband and Ben Elton on the list too. It’s exhausting. I really would rather love my fellow man, but their stupidity and complicity in the madness make that impossible.
As when Clare Teal played a pro-masking propaganda song on her Radio 2 show a while ago. I haven’t listened to it since.
I agree with you about U C but it was saved by being (after the first few minutes) very,very funny.
It was – and I got the impression that it was poking fun rather than promoting ‘virtue-signalling’.
Snap.
Yes, she went on to make an aside about some imagery of living in a totalitarian state and added “Of course it would never happen here” whilst giving a knowing look to the camera.
It reveals what they have always thought. That other people are dirty. It’s why they also buy into climate change. Other people are wasteful. Others. Not them.
Ah, all’s well in the shires! Had the local hunt pass this morning, good turnout, smart riders, cheerful greetings and friendly waves. Not a mask in sight!
Whatever your feelings are about hunting it was so good to see life going on as it always has done.
Not even a fox’s mask?
Have yourself a very merry little Christmas says the “Bozzer”.
Having just “fought” though Sainsburys in Kidderminster, it looks like (hopefully) that the great “unwashed” are thinking: ” F××k that for a game of soldiers”.
Almost rhymes with ‘have yourself a very miserable Christmas’…
In a cashless society autonomy is replaced with dependency.
Cash is king
https://twitter.com/NeilClark66/status/1341378184516874241?s=20
They can also make money from all transactions, which they will
Yup. Ask the people you know what they think about going cashless. I know you’ll be dissappointed. I was.
Until something happens and their card is declined. Then they’ll get a shock
As happened to me in the summer, when the local National Trust coffee shop refused to accept my tenner, and my card wouldn’t work.
Happened to a relative of mine last year – trying to buy a small piece of furniture (bedside cabinet, or whatever) from a large retailer: card declined. Got on phone to the bank, after quite a substantial time on the phone, bank operator said they declined it because, “it is a common purchase of criminal elements”. Anyway sorted it out, the bank removed the block, relative goes to pay: declined again. Obviously they didn’t remove the block. Long story short, took about 1 1/2 hours all in all, for the numpty on the other end to unblock the card properly, & complete the purchase.
Cash is king
They think it’s great don’t they! SO convenient…
Boss of one of the big banks (might have been Bank for international settlements, Bis. not sure though) admitted the point is complete control, & that they absolutely have the technology to do so – you want to buy alcohol? ah that’s bad for you. switch off. want to buy meat? want to buy a train ticket? ah you’re a planet killer. switch off….!
I didn’t actually use cash much before this, but being a contrary bugger I have started using it as much as possible now. Also worth it to see the faces of the sheeple shop assistants who are frightened to touch it! Small pleasures now! Suggest we all go back to using it as much as we can.
Gave the waitrose delivery guy a paper money tip. He was delighted. No qualms at all about handling cash.
I’ve been handling cash all my life – never a sniffle
I’ve been almost exclusively using cash when out and about for several months now.
Interesting podcast on protecting your wealth. However more intersting the comments that they feel they’re broadcasting behind enemy lines and the censorship goin on. worth a listen.
https://operation-freedom-shows.s3.amazonaws.com/DEC20_2020/BillHolter122020.mp3
I go out and about so infrequently now that taking the car for its MoT yesterday felt like an adventure. Backstreet garage run by a Sikh man I know. No fuss whatsoever about masks. Told me he was running a bit behind time and it would take an hour or so. Went for a walk down the nearby main road in a heavily immigrant area. Lots of small food shops and barbers, not much mask wearing going on. Got a cup of tea and a pasty in a Gregg’s, again, no fuss about masks. Went back to the garage and the guy made me a cup of tea while I waited in the office. Took payment in cash.
Car failed on two worn tyres. Went to get them replaced and again, no fuss at all about masks, didn’t see anyone wearing them at any of the small industrial units on the estate. Snack van with unmasked owner doing a roaring trade with queue of customers chatting away at close quarters. Paid cash again, just felt like a normal day for a short while.
Thats good to hear.
yes the ‘real’ workers are not fussing around with the virus nonsense – it’s the namby pamby middle class, work at home idiots who are doing all the fearmongering/distancing.
I’ll go along with that from personal experience.
Send this summary to your email. Read it again in 5 years. Hopefully that Sikh gentleman is still going strong and masks are just another legacy of human waste
And don’t forget, BBRS,that the ethnic minorities are “supposed” to be more “at risk” than the rest of us.
More at risk of displaying common sense!
Face knickers are worn by human waste.
Sikh and ye shall find!
Good to hear!
Post that in the Grauniad and the comments would be full of that is why the virus is spreading and all those shops should be shut and fined.
Just caught up with the lifestyle section of the Sunday Telegraph. No doubt it was written before Saturday’s clampdown, but it now looks totally ridiculous: about 20 short contributions from assorted famous people on the general theme “I’m optimistic about 2021 because…”. Even Allison Pearson seems to think that the “brainy scientists” have produced a wonderful vaccine which will soon get us back to normal. Her aspirations are good but her optimism is unfounded.
Reading the lifestyle section of the Telegraph usually requires the close proximity of a sickbucket.
It keeps the narrative alive. No masks, no distancing, no sanitiser, no signage – no pandemic
This border chaos horse manure just goes to show that the UK Government can rely on the “rules-based international [new world] order” for help with a psyop with which to convince old ladies to do as they are told over Christmas.
Prohibition And Covid-19; Part Four: An Historical Context; Social Engineering For Grabbing Power
I’ve decided to start working out again and dusting off my combat skills.Fine words dont butter parsnips.
I’m ready to fight I believe my generation is probably the last to give a shit about my country.Im 52 in good health and fucking angry.
I hope for a pandemic of targeted Violence for my xmas present.The next fucker who tells me what to do or think will regret those empty words.
I’m 72, John and if I’m too old to fight, at least I can make petrol bombs.
Thanks matthew!
Petition · Claps don’t pay the bills – give all NHS workers a 15% pay rise #NHSPay15 · Change.org
The year the nhs ran our country! See what you get!
Sure, let’s give more money to the organisation that fucked the country. Amazing how many economic geniuses are signing away.
“ let’s give more money to the organisation that fucked the country.”
What – subscribe to the Tory Party?
Don’t forget to sign:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564421
I wonder if there was a lockdown version of A Christmas Carol if Tiny Tim would have to wear a face nappy and Scrooge would have to social distance from the 3 spirits?
You can bet some “socially aware” producers and directors have already thought about it.
New BBC version Scrooge is the real hero out to save the NHS.
Bob Cratchet and Tiny Tim are Covid idiots who deserve to be truncheoned to death by the Covid Beadle for rule breaking
Did Marley die of Covid?
Dead as a coronadoornail..
I’ve said it before, Annie; you really should take up writing comedy scripts.
There is enough material here to last for years and years.
Carry on Covid, distancing, washing your hands,etc.
PS: Carry on up the testing centre?
Every single trades union is pathetic. They have swallowed the ‘pandemic’ narrative hook line and sinker. They even sell their own branded face masks
At a future time, will unions represent their members whose health has been damaged by the prolonged wearing of face masks?
The unions are signed up. They no longer represent the working class.
https://www.buildbackbetter.org.uk/
As a branch activist, I have been keen to present the health dangers and when presented this way national leadership did not push back against me.
Yes, my regular emails from the RMT union are full of Great Reset buzz-words. Today’s was all about the Government’s promised Green Recovery from Covid. One last week even bleated ‘Boris promised us a Great Reset’. I am not making this up. These numpties think that there will be a golden age of public transport after we achieve Zero Covid. I do hope they will enjoy the reality! MW
My friends aunt is a care worker and a couple of weeks ago developed pleurisy from constant mask wearing.
They really have been awful. The very thing they promote will destroy any power the working class ever had.
Dunno who represetns the hospitality industry though I’d guess a lot is non unionised but I don’t hear any crys for the right to work. The Union movement seems obsessed with the “stay safe” doctrine.
Most trade Union members these days are public sector or quasi public sector employees. Only about 1/4 of Uk employees are members. Less than 10% of private sector employees are members
I am not surprised about their attitudes to Covid and the response to it at all
“The best and most convincing disguise for fear is virtue itself, or godliness. Then it never looks like fear. For fear to survive, it must look like reason, prudence, common-sense, intelligence, the need for social order, morality, religion, obedience, justice or even spirituality. It always works. What better way to veil vengeance than to call it justice? What better way to cover greed than to call it responsible stewardship? Only people who have moved beyond ego and controlling of all outcomes, only those practiced at letting go, see fear for the impostor that it is. To be trapped inside of your small ego is always to be afraid.”
― John Feister, Hope Against Darkness: The Transforming Vision of Saint Francis in an Age of Anxiety
The world is spiralling downwards of it’s own volition. Only us here and the oligarchs seem aware of it. We here don’t have the power to stop it. The people who do have the power are either mentally incapacitated by a situation they don’t know how to deal with or are people who will benefit from it.
Careful now – JohnP will be along to tell you that the oligarchs aren’t the government!
Ha, well I think it’s vague enough. I don’t think anyone can dispute that non governmental organisations and people can still have a huge influence on political decision-making.
Soros broke the B of E. I rest my case, M’lud.
Yes, and now all the Guardian readers think he’s just the greatest, most giving guy around
..after Bill Gates!
It’s like Germany 1933, it may already be too late.
Some alarming bedtime reading:
https://off-guardian.org/2020/12/22/whats-actually-in-the-us-covid-stimulus-bill/
If that doesn’t prove it is not simply about a virus I don’t know what will convince people. Shocking what the criminals in power get away with, basically they are supporting military spending to clamp down on any dissent and regime change in the few countries not under US control.
Foreign Aid is a washing machine dressed up as humanitarianism
Can’t believe people still have any faith that Trump is a good guy after reading this list of terror and crony capitalism.
Money for tyrannical regimes to purchase the latest surveillance and military technology to use against their own populations is a worry as is the war on what remains of free speech. $5 billion for GAVI suggests we will be like pin cushions in the future with the amount of vaccines they will mandate.
Inspired by the Saturday Night shenanigans, had a go at an X Factor parody. Just uploaded and now have a dry cough, from trying to do the voice
Not sure the embed code will work nah it doesn’t!..will make a download version available too..
https://youtu.be/bDz4FOmwctE
And a poster to go with
Good job ).
Awesome!!
I went to ilkley this morning to pick up our turkey from MandS. What kind of world are we living in where I’m getting anxious about not wearing a mask to a shop?! Anyway, there were so many people wearing masks outside it was nuts, same in keighley, loads more wearing them outside than even last week. It freaks me out so much, don’t know how much more I can take. I’ve been praying for someone to really expose what’s going on so that it’s irrefutably proven to be way out of proportion. Gosh, even my pastors believe that the government has good intentions, what hope is there (apart from Jesus)?!
Jolly Johnson has always convinced everyone he is a happy benign soul, they can’t believe he would do anything to hurt them
Same with western governments.
So once gain the propaganda of the new variant did it’s trick. With a complicit media it’s like shooting fish in a barrel for Boris and Matt.
“With a complicit media …”
I think that may be more of a problem than the government itself. The wholesale capture of the media gives them a free run.
Just as a quick example : Who heard anything today about all-cause mortality dropping for the fourth week in a row?
A free press is one of the essential safeguards of democracy. But what good is a free press if they all peddle the same tune, social media censors alternative viewpoints and the state broadcaster is either unable to or refuses to challenge government health policy? Without those checks we’re relying on the intelligence and good will of the government…and we wonder why we’re f*cked.
Free press?
!!
Lately I have been a little anxious about going into places without a mask.
Yes I am seeing a lot more people outside wearing masks too. What the fuck is that about. Even young children.
It’s about fear and compliance.
Exactly that, isn’t it. Understanding the psychology of it is essential to staying sane.
Me too! When I find myself praying before I go into a shop without a mask I say to myself that something is seriously amiss!
I just walk in. I don’t think anything about it. Never been challenged.
Mind you I don’t shop in the town centre – it was a depressing dump before lockdown struck and I haven’t shopped there for many years. Mask mania might be rampant there of course.
The locals seem to be 90% sane.
I don’t really think about it anymore. Just keep your head up, eyes straight ahead and smile politely at people. You can see their brains working trying to grasp why their natural instinct says this is normal but for some reason they can’t bring themselves to be human as well.
I do the same – head up and a confident smile!
It shows the plan worked – probably better than expected.
I have been into my bank, Greggs and supermarket today without mask. No problem at all, no one glaring at me. I had the impression shop staff seem quite happy to see a face.
Waitrose had a long queue when I arrived, which moved very fast, and none when I came out. Inside I was the only person not muzzled apart from 3 cashiers. I obviously went to an unmasked cashier.
I have no qualms at all to be “free”, I think it cheers shop staff up actually, so think that way. you help make their life better, even for a few minutes.
Remain steadfast, beware your reactions to events outside of your control, build your inner citadel. Your hope must now come from within, without is lost to fortune.
Or as my father would say: “Don’t let the bastards get to you”.
I have little, the majority have seemingly chosen their fate.
Yes, BUT NOT YOURS.
It’s important, no matter how difficult it sometimes is, not to feel threatened by others’ compliance with this nonsense; behaving normally is essential to maintaining sanity, let them get on with it as they see fit and don’t allow yourself to resent it, hostility is not the answer no matter the perceived provocation. Screening out the madness and keeping your equanimity if challenged is good for mental discipline and clarity of thought. You know what the facts are, don’t let the behaviour of others upset you. Zen is your friend.
Well said!
Your immediate experience really is whatever you make of it. We can only control our own reaction to events.
Did my veggie shopping this morning among the knickered goons.
All the vegetables are on stalls in the open air, in front of the actual shop.
I would say here on the Shropshire/Worcestershire borders that it’s about 70% of people who wear F N’s outside.
I’d have expected Ilkley to be full of bemuzzled virtue-signallers but thought Keighley would have shown a bit more grit.
Have just returned from a visit to one of Drakeford’s gulag food banks, formerly known as Morrisons. I expected it to be a dire experience, as it was during the last “firebreak” with sheets, barriers and boxes of booze everywhere to be negotiated thanks to his ban on supermarkets selling non essential items.
Imagine my surprise to discover a total lack of insanity reigned in the place. Not a single sheet or barrier to be seen. From talking to a supervisor, the other three “big four” stores have stopped selling non essential items but Morrison’s staff have not been told to do so y their managers.
Is this the start of a revolt by Wales store managers? Have Morrisons decided to stick two fingers up at Drakeford and say we are not playing your stupid mind games. After all, what can they really do, other than impose a fine which is easily covered by sales of those same non essential items. Of course, it remains to be seen if the others follow suit and abandon their plastic sheets once they realise that they are losing money to another store.
Incompetence – Asda’s was fully sheeted
Interesting. I’ll swap to Morrisons if Aldis and Sainsburies have gone full loony.
Although I’m lucky enough to be able to do my shopping in the province of New Freedonia (formerly Shropshire).
Over the border
out of order
The Politburo in Cardiff Bay will be notified
I go under the border. There’s an old mining tunnel connecting my village to the one on the English side of the River Ceiriog.
It would be good for something good to happen to Morrison’s. Manna from Heaven, a cure for warts and scrofula for those who enter the shop and buy something, springs of living water bursting forth from the walls (not strictly useful, especially in Wales). A sign.
Anything not totally Dungforded is a gain.
I think what really needs emphasising with Wales is the morbidity for the year.. No excess deaths whatsoever, in fact -4.7below normal. That above anything shows it up to be nothing to do with health and everything to do with politics..
But the Terrified do not listen. Tried it. No effect, purely because I’m not a BBC newscaster.
The Valley Commando’s don’t do graphs
Just what they see on Wales Online
doomed
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564421
whatsapp.. facebook.. youtube.. share
Done, thanks for the heads up.
Don’t forget to have a minutes silence in memory of all the people you personally know who have died of C19. So that’s zero seconds for me.
One’s in the figures but she sadly died of cancer. Only in her 50s too. Her husband is an old mate of mine, thankfully he got the last week with her in a hospice, after she tested negative in the hospital where she had tested positive a week before..
Seconded.
I don’t know anyone personally who has even been tested +ve (most of my acquaintances have never been tested) never mind died. I met a fellow dog walker yesterday and tried, tactfully, to impart a few truths. When I got onto the fact that viruses do not generally spread asymptomatically and this is recognised in the scientific community, I got the predictable response of “Were you trained in that sort of thing?” Difficult to tell, but I think he was being facetious. It annoys me when ‘they’ come out with this as it implies that no one can learn or use their own judgement about anything unless they have undertaken a study course themselves. By the same token how do they consider themselves competent to believe what the Govt scientists tell them? But I replied “well not to a high level, only what I recall from O level Biology”. I never did O level biology but it shut him up!
But he then went on to say that his neighbour had recently died “of covid”. I said with a straight face “Oh, and she wasn’t elderly and didn’t have anything wrong with her before?” “Well she was in her early eighties and she had suffered from lung problems for a long time”. This is what we are up against!
looks like Llandudno have been having a lockdown march – every march helps get the message across …
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/live-hundreds-join-llandudno-anti-19162831?fbclid=IwAR2K86_ylxKie-WTYfj0XH9HSXfBvrYD0mCPJDoZvVFdDzqw4ZpBPu8V7GQ
I think I’m going to start playing my Christmas songs at half speed. You should try it. It really captures the mood of Christmas 2020.
How about Blue Nile – Christmas
The christmas lights / The money running out / The kid seem to cry all the time / Take it easy
Is Sturgeon getting more batty and deranged by the moment? She is shutting down Scotland, but “1,045 patients are in hospital with a confirmed case (down 33), with 60 being treated in intensive care (up one).” WTF!
She even claimed that ICU patients were up, yeh like by the massive figure of one and there are only 60 in total north of the border.
That’s how it works. It’s spiralling out of control while the figures don’t match.
There was a Scotsman article today which said something like 0.3% of 44,000 students tested with LFT were positive. This included a confirmatory PCR test only for those who were initially positive.
Meanwhile, we’re told the overall positive rate in the community is closer to 5% with PCR tests.
I think most people could draw an obvious conclusion from these figures. Not the SG though it seems.
Cases
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Dr. Sam Bailey has just uploaded a video on YouTube about excess mortality.
That is really a very good video.
I would suggest that if you can only recommend one video to somebody you want to convince, then go for this one – it’s only 12 minutes but packed with information and very well presented.
Thanks. Am watching it now. I like how she gives us all the links and that they’re EU ones too so that even the permanently muzzled and terminally terrified should consider they might be worth looking at….. 12 mins of their time well spent.
But no. Of course they won’t. The BBC is their god. Sadly this is preaching to the converted. I’m sending it to my sceptical sis in law and hoping she can sneak it into the barking-mad Facebook silliies’ posts.
Any chance of a link please?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw5ldWr9QD0
Brilliant, thanks.
Here’s one of the comments:
Excellent again . Thank you doctor. My comment is this – There is NO health scare ! There is a pandemic or distortion, lies, propaganda and psychological assault. The greatest crime in human history is taking place in our countries . We are under attack.
That won’t stay up long. Anyone know how to download it without using dodgy software? Or is also being posted on BitChute etc?
When i see a photo of Regent St W1 empty a few days before Christmas – this for me will be the image i hold on to (where i worked happily for years in that very area), a time when the bars were bursting and the shops were full, Regent St lights, – Christmas in central London is normally the time when the British economy is in fifth gear making the lucre that would filter into our savings, future business ventures, pensions, tax ££ for the state. Next year is going to be a very bleak picture – where do the masked zombies think the money comes from ? Maybe it will hit them when the currency crashes and a loaf of bread costs a fiver.
The money can just be created with a keystroke, America is just creating another $900 billion to bribe the population and start wars abroad. If the money is to control the population it is safe to assume the amount created will be endless. Agree, that once they print another few hundred billion it will start to become increasingly worthless. I am sure the wealthy elite will be well positioned to emerge stronger than ever.
Big brand clothes retailers are down 50% on sales this year.
It’s so sad, isn’t it? I’m a Londoner by birth. My first job, as a 17 year-old, was working in a stockroom under Selfridges in the run-up to Xmas. Later, I worked for media companies in central London. Some of my happiest memories are of the streets around the West End just before Xmas – pubs full of happy workers, the illuminations, the drunken but friendly last train or tube of the night, full of happily sozzled commuters and shoppers on the way home. The atmosphere would continue up to New Year, when I’d pop up West for the sales, or to see a show at the Royal Academy, or wander down to the South Bank to the NFT or the Royal Festival Hall. Great times! I used to love that time of year.
Covid found amongst people on the Antarctica base, and moronic leaders all over the world think that they can stop it spreading by standing 2 metres apart, wearing face nappies and locking people away.
PATHETIC!!!
If it’s a mutant version, is this strain similar to The Thing.
BLOODY good film, that.
The first one
‘Twas indeed, one of my favourites. Predictably, the remake was a travesty.
I was thinking more of Lifeforce
The new mutant strain OMG
Infected hoards rampaging through London
(a film that could never be remade btw)
Was there a quarantine period to ensure that people didn’t bring it there when they in effect changed shifts?
No idea, Norman.
It is in the “Metro”.
It’s probably the state propagandists thinking they are being clever again coming up with fake news. It certainly sounds like a made up story.
Very likely.
you would have thought they’d have strict controls for the new staff going into the base for lots of reasons not least as i suspect over winter would be hard to extract them if serious illness. I thought they had to have their appendix removed and such like to reduce health issues (but i may have made that up
It is curious though how with the measures they carried out how the virus managed to hitch a ride to Antarctica. And they think a face nappy is going to stop the spread!!??
Let it snow…
They should just open the windows and get that fresh breeze they are always on about.
Or double face nappies?
“Ice Station Corona”, perhaps.
So, I’ve have been looking at where all the money is coming from for all these Health Journalists, because it disturbs me that the articles are always following the same narrative. They never go against it. I’ve never seen a single mainstream article which even hints that a PCR Result could ever be wrong. I have never seen a single mainstream article or report which challenges the myth of asymptomatic spread.
Why? Could it possibly be money?
Newspapers (Guardian Telegraph etc) and TV Companies (BBC, big time) receive literally millions from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (Search BBC /Guardian/Telegraph) Check for yourself here if you are sceptical. The amounts are not small.
https://www.gatesfoundation.org/Search
On another level, there are more free dollars available for health journalism at please like this from the European Development Journalism Grants.
https://publishers.journalismgrants.org/news/2020/grants-of-up-to-120-000-now-available-for-newsroom-reporting-on-global-development
Paid for again by Bill Gates if you read carefully. It is just another channel for their funding of Health Journalism. They even state the terms “The project should deliver regular instalments that are thematically connected over a period of 12 months which are recognisable as a series. Applicants need to demonstrate that the projects benefit from their organisation’s full ownership and that the coverage has full editorial support during its entire run complete with the requisite “above the fold” placement and accompanying promotion.”
Health Reporting was very boring until 2020. No one used to care. There was no money in it so media had not invested in it. Journalists were few and far between. Now the industry is booming. I might be barking up the wrong tree here, but when I follow the money it is clearly pointing to so called ‘Health Journalists’ being used/funded in a very slick marketing operation for Big Pharma funded by none other than Bill Gates. Very clever but Bill does have a track record of demonstrating he is a good businessman. He is revolutionising the Pharmaceutical Industry. Because he cares? Just thought I’d put this out there for others to look at.
A journalist doesn’t have to be directly paid.
If you are a young journalist, who wants to get ahead, you will quickly learn from your own xperiences and those of your coleagues, what line of approach is welcomed by editors and what they don’t want to see.
Theredsoesn’t need to be any overt message. You simply see what gets published and what doesn’t.
This is also at the heart of academic funding too. You only put up for funding if you know what type of project will be attractive to the funding bodies – it will be pre-screened by your own institution prior to even being submitted. Hence, ‘97% of scientists agree’ in the the climate change bandwagon.
At its core, philanthropy, like charitable donation, is no more than one part of a firm’s or institution’s marketing mix.
That’s not strictly true. Nick Triggle and Debra Cohen at the BBC have been very brave throughout and questioned the narrative in all sorts of areas, including PCR tests. The thing with PCR tests is that actually it doesn’t affect the argument much one way or the other. If they are accurate (they are not, but bear with me) then as we test everybody the IFR will dwindle further and will end up at less than 0.1%. If they use LFT’s the ‘case rate’ will drop, but the IFR will rise. Lockdowns are useless whichever way you present the data though as the population susceptible to death is tiny, and they are not out and about in pubs restaurants, theatres, football stadiums etc. They are generally found in hospitals, care homes or at a push, indoors 90% of the time.
BBC live feed
15:08
UK facing ‘very serious’ supply chain disruptionDuncan Buchanan, director of policy at the Road Haulage Association, said he was “very disappointed” with how the government presented the levels of freight disruption on Monday evening, saying they were “seeking to minimise the nature of the problem”.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson told a briefing on Monday that the number of lorries waiting on the M20 had been reduced from 500 to 170, although Highways England later said there were 900 lorries parked on the M20 as of 18:00 GMT.
“This is a very different level of supply chain disruption, of the like we have probably never experienced,” he told MPs on the Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy committee.
“Many of the retailers are saying… we will be fine until Christmas at least, but we must recover very fast to keep the shops fully stocked after Christmas. It’s a big worry.”
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If the UK Gov can’t even count the number of trucks on a road, how can they be believed on the rona stats?
I assume the question is rhetorical. If the information comes via the British Bedwetters’ Collective you can be sure it has been amorously massaged, you know how they love a happy ending.
Does anyone have the link to the Freedom hubs or whatever they are called. I want to connect to so LS people in my area ( if they are any ) as I’m slowly going insane.
Thanks
https://www.thefreedomnetwork.co.uk/find-a-hub
Thank you
Good plan!
See also Telegram’s Protest Everywhere local groups section.
There’s a meet local sceptics section here too:
https://dailysceptic.org/forums/
Excellent.
This is the way to go.
The Freedom Network https://www.thefreedomnetwork.co.uk
I am thinking I need to do the same. Nobody to talk to out of all my friends / family and feeling very alone.
What a surprise. Won’t your chums at 77th talk to you?
Heading away tomorrow for a break over Christmas. I should be looking forward to it but the thought of more interaction with this worsening dystopia honestly makes me sick. I’m just done with everything, it’s honestly not worth living anymore except as tiny resistance.
Next Christmas this will either be a bad memory or relatively good one. I suspect which is the more likelier outcome.
The ocean is made up of a lot of tiny, seemingly insignificant drops.
We are still only a small minority.
We’re a bigger minority than you think. Hang in there!
It’s still so depressing to see all this happen with so little pushback.
I think that, despite the apathy, we will see quite a lot of rule-breaking this Christmas, at least in a small, quiet way. The mass of the sheeple will not venture out, but the borderline sceptical may be pushed over the edge into full scepticism. It’s not much but it’s a start.
As I was working in the front garden this afternnon a large group of young, well 16/17 year old,. girls walked past: chatting , laughing, arms round each other the way some do. Not a care in the world . Masks? : “what are they? ”
Its not all hopeless, DRW
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The troops are gathering. Why not see how you can help? We keep posting links to find local groups. Plenty of people out leafleting and stickering. Moping around certainly won’t change anything.
They thought the Brexit Party was a ‘minority’ coming into the Euro elections?…..how many seats did the Tories get in Brussels?……….
Not so small.I tink the Christmas fiasco will have been a tipping pont for many who might finally hav eopened their eyes to the fact that it’s a political scam.
Life is ALWAYS worth living.
You only have one life – unless you’re a Buddhist, in which case you might be reincarnated as a slug, or something worse such as a Dungford – and if you waste it, you will not be offered another.
So don’t waste it and don’t throw it away.
It will be the only escape if things get as bad as I fear.
I’m sure Buddhists have similar jokes about Christians.
Individually we are weak, like a single twig.
But as a bundle, we form a mighty faggot
Or maggot.
I just wish we were larger.
I love faggots…with mushy peas…….
Just don’t say that if you’re ever in the United States.
Just paid my daily visit to my parents and my Mum’s sister was there. Depressingly hysterical about everything, a big disappointment as she was always a sensible, no-nonsense type. Sat there in her bloody mask and insisting on using her own hand sanitiser.
Hadn’t seen her in months and the first thing she noticed was I’ve grown a beard. “Ooh like the beard Liam, does it attract the ladies?”
Me: “Well I wouldn’t really know anymore would I, being as I never bloody go anywhere?”
“Oh you know what I hadn’t thought of that!”
Nearly a year in and she hadn’t worked out that ending all social life might have some adverse effects. FFS.
Just Identify as Neil Ferguson and go out for a finger buffet
Ugh. Mind bleach time!
I see what you did there
My sister has also sacked off Christmas and is staying put. Absolutely nothing to do with Covid, well to any right thinking person that is. Her boyfriends mum has been diagnosed with Cancer and she doesn’t want to risk giving her Covid. The fact we are Covid mad is a bigger risk to her now she needs treatment of course, but I am not wading in on that.
I hope she gets treatment faster than my friend who waited 5 months for urgent surgery with the direct result that it had spread to her liver and she is now terminal. More people are afraid of an illness killing less than 1% and an average age of 82 when 1 in 2 get cancer and you probably won’t get a diagnosis, let alone treatment.
Those minimally affected haven’t a clue how it is for the others.
A friend joined a zoom call with some locals in nearby tier 2 who were comparing their delightful experiences eating in local restaurants. They were genuinely puzzled when she said there was nowhere to go because the cafes and restaurants were shut. They’d no idea she’d been locked in tier 3 since August – or what that entailed! They live only 17 miles from her.
There are bubbles and bubbles!
Delightful is not how I’d described being served by face nappied waiters, watching muzzleoids entering and leaving and going for ablutions.
I will never go in a pub or restaurant again until the masked shit is gone can’t really avoid Tesco as I need my ale.
Trust me, the people involved are lapping up lockdown. They’re all comfortably middle class and it doesn’t affect them much. I suspect they find it all quite exciting.
I’m pretty sure that one of the reasons behind regional tiers was ‘divide and rule’ – people squabble about what tier they are in and whether they are better off than others, or just don’t know what’s happening in other parts of the country. It makes it harder to organise national opposition.
Another reply would have been ‘How will the ladies know if I have a beard, since we all have to wear bloody stupid masks all the time?’
So imagine for a moment that you’re a lockdown supporter, not a zealot maybe, but you think the government’s rules and mandates are tough, sometimes non-sensible, but always justified. One of those types.
Now, what I personally am struggling to understand is that if you are in the above category, what reasons would you think the government would have to justify unleashing the chaos, turmoil, anguish and despair that comes with an announcement of a new strain of the SARS-Cov-2 virus, just before Christmas? You should conclude it is pointless, or with agenda, but certainly not random or “bad timing”.
Let me explain my thoughts. So a lockdown supporter must know that …
Therefore, you must conclude that Kent/London could have been dealt with using existing actions: local lockdown measures quickly drawn up which are not necessarily part of an existing, national framework.
Instead of: local lockdown measures quickly drawn up which are not necessarily part of an existing, national framework – because of a scary, “new” strain.
The “scary” bit simply isn’t needed! In fact, no further justification is needed – the precedent has already been set!
Especially given publicly available information of:
Then I can’t think of any justification as to recklessly speculate on this “new” strain, and neither should a lockdown supporter?
Therefore, I (me) can only think of three reasons why anyone would spout and believe this “new” strain nonsense:
So, my own scientific and logical end conclusion to the ramblings above: we’re all fucked.
Cheers
Dave
Its the oddest thing to get christmas cards with ‘have a good christmas, getting my jab (date)’, had 2 from elderly relatives!
Send a reply with the date you plan to join the church of Satan.
thought the ‘I SURVIVED THE COVID JAB’ badge, was a bit much
I suspect that the propaganda around new scary variant will be ramped up around the time that the vaccinated get their second jab, which if what I’m reading is true, is the one with the worse side effects and can lead to death..
Local child wearing a F N because she wants to look like a ” Grown up”.
Oh, the bloody irony of it all!!!
Tell her that her teeth will fall out!
It’s child abuse, I’ve
seen a number of kids wearing muzzles. I want to weep. Muzzled Mothers pushing prams which means their baby cannot even see their expressions.
We’ve seen several very young children in FNs in the last 2 days. Either the new lies are having an effect (children are all GOING TO DIE of the Ninja Mutant Variant) or maybe we’re noticing them because they’re off school and out shopping with Yummy Mummy at times which coincide with us old gimmers.
Either way, it’s shocking and AlanG mutters ‘child abuse’ in a loud stage whisper as they go past.
Also, the house I’ve reported on before with the white neon ‘NHS’ sign and a flashing red heart now has a grotesque illuminated plastic snowman over the porch. Guess what it is wearing on its ‘face’? Revolting, arrogant, despicable, thick virtue-signallers!!
I was cycling along this morning when I spied two other of the locale’s biggest virtue-signalling ‘dandelions’, with their FNs slung round their necks, ready for shop-action. I shouted ‘Happy Christmas’ at them and they were startled into reciprocation (usually they just look reproachfully at me over their muzzles because they massively disapprove of my known heretical views.) MW
Did you see SAGE just admitted lockdowns are useless:
From the NERVTAG document:
“It was noted that VUI-202012/01 has demonstrated exponential growth during a period when national lockdown measures were in place.”
Ah, but only useless for this terrifying mutant strain. And presumably only because the lockdown wasn’t harder and longer. (Confident those would be the qualifying remarks).
exponential
Don’t you hate that word. Behavioural Science again.
It’s a fascinating litmus test : scientists who don’t understand the term can’t be scientists. (I just accidentally typed ‘SCIENTITS’. I think I’ve just discovered a new term for the Whitty/Vallence/Fergusson brigade of tossers)
The Scientits of Sage…love it.
Stupidly missed out the word “vaccine” there…
Makes perfect sense as it is given that nobody dies of anything else anymore!
I don’t know, it looks pretty good as it is!
DavidC
No, the truth is as it stands. CV will cure all known diseases when vaccines and lockdowns have wiped out all humans.
exactly…
Defeated cancer and all other serious diseases. Everyone dies of Covid-19!
Got what you meant
Checked on the Guardian site, and it’s not much different from your satirical version, to be honest.
How can you tell? Are you sure this is not real?
Not far off the real thing.
Absolute genius – I love playing around with photoshop but I have no idea how you do that.
No photoshop needed…
If you use “Chrome” (or most browsers on a desktop) use can access “developer” mode and edit the page’s source code by pressing CTRL+SHIFT+C (or command shift c on a mac)
Click on some text in the page you want to edit, then you should be able to edit it.
The Guardian is a bit of a pig because of the way the code is structured, but other sites are a bit more simple.
I just do that when I’m bored sometimes and take a screenshot.
Have fun…
Thanks – I might try that.
On Apple using Safari choose to show tend develop option and then play with all the show options.
You’ll find all sorts of strange things on websites.
Police in Tier 2 York slam drinkers who ‘believe their pint is more important than someone’s life’ after fining a ‘shocking’ number of people for travelling from neighbouring Tier 3 areas to city’s pubs
North Yorkshire Police said they issued ‘a shocking number of fines’ to those who ‘flout regulations’. They said it showed some people ‘think their pint is more important than someone’s life’.
This highlights one of the core moral tenets in our culture that has been warped, to enable the coronapanic disaster.
The idea that behaving normally when there is a low risk disease around is “endangering others”, either from direct risk of transmission resulting in death or from a theoretical general increase in prevalence resulting from spread, needs to be stamped out, somehow.
Intellectual argumentation is not sufficient, because the hyper-vigilant can always point to some tiny residual risk and claim it creates responsibility. More emotional positions, that respond in kind to the emotional blackmail inherent in the panicker position, are needed if a society is not to end up where we have. One part of the cultural defence against this noxious doctrine was a cultural presumption in favour of “keeping calm and carrying on”, ruat caelum. Another (related) was a contempt for scaremongering and for showing weakness in the face of such minor threats.
The cultural failures that helped enable this disaster were suffered in the C20th, and we are only now seeing their full fruits. We have allowed respect to be twisted by sentimentality away from courage and fortitude, and bestowed upon cowardice.
“We have allowed respect to be twisted by sentimentality away from courage and fortitude, and bestowed upon cowardice.”
Perfectly put.
the permanently hysterical should stay in their bunkers, sick of the lot of them
Agree and strangely enough, these types are rarely at home themselves when making their point.
That’s the infuriating thing – it’s ‘one rule for thee and one for me’ with these people – they are determined to go about their ‘normal’ lives as much as possible while forcing everyone else to conform to the rules, stupidly trying to attenuate everything with juju rituals such as masks and distancing. If they really believed there was a ‘pandemic’ they would just stay at home.
That’s precisely the solution – you’re free to be quivering cowardly hermit of little brain. Allow me not to be – I’ll even leave shopping on your doorstep out of sympathy for those mentally afflicted in this way.
Haha, my son is one of those selfish nasty people who went out of tier 3 Leeds and into York for an escape from boredom. Good on him I say, all the perpetually petrified should stay hankered down for ever, peering over the tops of their muzzles with their nasty beady eyes.
I encourage my young adult children to break the rules whenever possible. Good on your son!
I was pleased to get a call from an old friend that I normally visit at New Year’s. He said I’m welcome to visit even though it’s ‘banned’, we just have to be careful that I park my car on the next street instead of in his driveway as usual, because his neighbour is a covid watcher. So nice to be treated like a human instead of a leper!
Encourage my kids to check the facts and then do what they feel right.
Just happens that they then ignore the bullshit and do what they ant then try and get their friends to do the same.
“Julie Knight, 46, who runs Knight Jewellers with 21-year-old daughter Lucy Jackson in the high street, also said she had already asked one lady to leave this morning because she was from a Tier Four area.
She said: ‘She came to the shop door and said “I’m from a Tier Four area so I shouldn’t really be here but I need a gold chain”. ‘I immediately instructed her not to come in and apologised and said that under the new rules we were unable to serve her.”
Herbert Sports has been in East Grinstead for 43-years.
Owner Craig Cash, 43, who bought the business in 2017, has worked there for the last 30-years.
He too was forced to turn away a customer who had travelled in from a Tier Four area this morning.
He said: ‘She seemed totally oblivious to the new rules and was confused about why I couldn’t serve her.
‘But as soon as I found out that she lived in Surrey I had no choice, it just isn’t worth it.
The richest person I have ever known once told me that if someone is trying to give you money , take it or it will go to someone else. That said I don’t get how someone can “need” a gold chain.
How can someone need to be such a mean-spirited cow?
Was the customer really so stupid, or was she a shill sent by the local stasi?
Yep smells of BS.
Agree – you’d have to be an idiot to actually *tell* the shopkeeper where you are from!
This is designed to put people off travelling to shop..
Our society is now in an apartheid regime with blocking of certain people to enter a shop – i fear this is only going to get worse!
But to be fair how f*****g stupid was it of the woman to announce that she was from tier 4 – just shut up and get on with it…
Are these people stupid? Nobody has the right to ask you where you live!
I’m not sure the shopkeeper had to ask.
How long before your phone GPS is adapted so it bleeps at the door to a shop, if you travel in from another area?
She said: ‘She came to the shop door and said “I’m from a Tier Four area so I shouldn’t really be here but I need a gold chain”.
There’s a moral here somewhere …
Excellent analysis. The police statement is an example of the fallacy of the excluded middle, as if it was a binary choice between on the one hand having a pint and giving someone a fatal disease, and on the other hand doing neither. . A similar fallacy is present in the argument for unilateral nuclear disarmament which says it’s either that or the mass annihilation of humanity.
There is no equivalence at all – nuclear deterrence was about a man-made threat. The equation is with the man-made threat of viral annihilation.
Slight error, it’s a false dilemma rather than excluded middle.
Quite limited thinking from the yorkshire bent minded police. Reframe the pint as worthless and those to drink one vile sociopaths.
Isn’t it the case dear yorkshire reframed police that a social pint is not only a custom and a tradition but also advantageous to mental health and that great new god of all reframed civil servants wellbeing?
You are not talking 8 pints and puking at the nearest lampost. A pint in a pub. Public Health policing is stasi.
8 pints it’s not worth going out unless you are doing a couple of gallon lol
“some people ‘think their pint is more important than someone’s life’.”
Well – just a personal opinion – but it’s worth more than the brain of someone dim enough to think that there’s an equivalence.
Stupidity on stilts.
They alway blame a selfish craving for alcohol (note it’s always a pint – blame the plebs!), rather than a perfectly natural need for human company. Moral egregiousness!
More important than someone’s asymptomatic false positive PCR test
likewise ‘to surge’
Totally agree
We’ve often based our arguments on the obvious fact that covid simply is nothing like as dangerous as has been claimed, and that in any case the kind of interventions we’ve seen are futile – this is quite understandable and these are powerful arguments
But underlying this is something more fundamental that we speak of less often because it’s a harder sell, and that is that freedom, while arguably not an absolute, should have a very high value placed upon it, as should the right to enjoy close human contact with whomever you choose, whenever you choose, and that this right is so important that even if the exercise of it may create risk for others, we are justified in doing it anyway.
I think many who speak against lockdowns have tacitly conceded this point, because it seems heartless to make it. But I feel unless we go back to believing this, we’re lost and will never get back to normality.
Can I just say from experience that there are a good number of people in York who couldn’t give less of a fuck about distancing/bubbles/etc. If the police want to take this up then fine, but they won’t win any friends.
Such as “Fuck off you lunatic !” ?
Should Chris Whitty be locked up for a very long time?
He should certainly be impoverished given he has impoverished so many others – and exiled on Muckle FLugga.
Attached to a drone and kept off shore somewhere.
Attach him to a rocket that accelerates exponentially.
How about Gruinard Island, there must still be some anthrax there…..
My thoughts exactly. He can then predict, monitor and suffer his one-man epidemic.
Sort of ironic when it was Dr David Kelly who was in charge of cleaning it up.
Fascinating.
I prefer the Ceaucescu option but it’d be a start.
Pinochets free escort service
No, why let off all the others.
Rudolph Hess was in jail until he died in 1987.
10,000!
Keep sharing….
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564421
Would not be surprised if Keir Starmer called for Parliament to be recalled so he can abstain again.
Just cleared 10000
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/cabinet-debated-putting-whole-england-19506507 -why is Gove so in favour of locking everyone up and ceasing economic activity. I thought he had had enough of experts such as Ferguson, Whitty , Van Tam etc
Gove is the classic ex-journo-cum-politician idiot – talks a lot and wears glasses, but almost never knows anything useful – and has no sense of what a twat he is.
Coke head cunt
Just caught the mutant strain. It’s fuck all. A dab of TCP and it’s gone.
Right that’s Christmas sorted.
Just drove past the local library. They are doing LFT’s there. A queu around the blovk parent s with kids, like they are going to the fucking grotto to see Santa for fucks sake, what is wrong with you people????? You arent sick so why get tested?
Seems to be like a badge of honour now. “Have you had yours?” “Ooh yes, I’m doing it to signal my virtue”.
All testing to make sure they are OK to visit Granny at Christmas… though they could catch it tomorrow…. not thought that through have they!
If you’re feeling low, just remember that you are not a zombie, you do not live in a permanent state of hysterical terror, you have a face, you have not forgotten what it is like to be human, words like ‘truth’, ‘honesty’, ‘integrity’, ‘friendship’, ‘love’, ‘joy’ ‘freedom’, ‘beauty’, ‘enjoyment’, ‘courage’ have meaning for you, you do not have an utterly false picture of the world, you do not kowtow to evil, you do not shame the very ground on which you stand.
You are fortunate.
We haven’t forgotten, but seemingly the majority has.
Thanks Annie, it’s a great point and easy to forget sometimes when its hard not to be despondent.
I’ve sent this on to someone very low, thanks very much
Thanks Annie, low this morning better this afternoon.
Today’s figures The Sun, what they mean: Johnson jumped the shark yesterday, so the propaganda machine has gone into hyper-overdrive to save his arse – and keep us confined into 2022. Phony-baloney vaccine + cert is the only way out. I’m in the Leper’s group.
Today’s announced deaths included at least one from 2 July! We know from the ONS announcement this morning, deaths in England & Wales were down two weeks in a row, and are less than 400 per day. In the dashboard, the 18 November UK total of 486 has still not been exceeded. Of course, the MSM is all over this – if only!
Excellent, thank you.
Tigress – they’ve dropped for four weeks. Not massively, but clearly (See my earlier posting). Currently converging with the lowest year(2011) in the quarter century.
Now we can see the reason for the absurd Scary Fairy of the ninja mutant virus – the real news is too optimistic.
Thanks Rick – sorry I just picked the headline from one of the MSM sites plus dashboard. The population is larger, and has been steadily aging, which makes the absolutes look even less remarkable.
On today’s reported number of 405 English hospital deaths:
‘Patients were aged between 26 and 100 years old. All except 13 (aged 54 to 90 years old) didn’t have known underlying health conditions.
Date of death ranges from July 2 to December 21 2020 with the majority being on or after December 18’
“the propaganda machine has gone into hyper-overdrive to save his arse “
An interesting take. What I do think is that Johnson will be kept in place as long as he can be the useful idiot.
Compromising politicians is probably expensive. Stick with the sell-out you’ve got.
Just read that the local council in Germany where my parents live have not reported any numbers for 4 days.
Apparently technical problems.
See, reporting numbers every day is not important, as they have not tried to do it manually (Abacus and paper?)
Good. Over 10,000 now. It won’t do any good, of course, but at least we can see we’re not alone.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564421
Really feels there’s a slowness about that petition as said earlier. Good effort to make people aware.
Recall Parliament now to scrutinise new Christmas coronavirus restrictions
It’s picking up pace..
Great.
For clarity. I meant to imply a throttle on the tech side of things not tge eagerness of people to have our parliament recalled and do the job they accepted and we expect them to do. I also agree on the pointless in anycase view too. That is the nature of things. Keep on chipping.
Yes, it’s called indifference. They ignore them.
John you have a bitterness of anger in you that is unpleasant to see. You seem to be heading in a bleak direction. Have a good one.
Didn’t half a million march against the Iraq war? The New Labour government took no notice at all. Later, however, Blair became a totally discredited figure, kept in existence only by the sinecures offered by his partners in crime. If justice ever returns, Boris Johnson better look for somewhere cheap to retire, because all his income streams – celebrity and journalism etc. – will dry up and his life will be remarkable only for its lack of interest to anybody.
And by then princess nut nut will have left him.
Even if all it proves is that Parliament is a waste of space, the sooner that is clear to all, the better.
Agree
Have you seen the list of active petitions? I just looked. Won’t make you feel rosy. More than 50k want gender reassingnment drugs to be re-allowed for under 16’s. Almost 200k demand no exams in 2021.
When it gets to 100,000 they have to call a debate in Parliament to debate the recall of Parliament.
Gilbert, thou shouldest be living at this hour.
Someone on my work “social” whatsapp group posted a link today which I will share below. The prelude to this was that we had a “virtual” christmas party a week ago (which I had a good mind to boycott but in the end didn’t). During the discussion, someone said she had been running with someone who then test positive and now she has to isolate. Then someone said that the bosses bro in law had died FROM covid at only 64. Then the conversation was all about “people don’t realise – it’s REAL” etc etc. I wanted to leave the conversation or call BS but didn’t, because in the end it makes things worse, especially in a zoom call.
So today this guy posts a link to the open letter by a doctor : https://www.news24.com/news24/columnists/guestcolumn/opinion-covid-19-a-doctors-open-letter-to-cape-town-20201221
At face value it’s quite compelling but I want to reply to him and tell him to wake the fuck up. For a start there is the line “Depression: Wow. Nobody cares …”. That in itself undermines the entire letter. But I guarantee that all my colleagues read it and just became even more brainwashed.
I want to say to them, sure people are sick and dying. But however much a doctor might be “on the frontline”. she won’t have a proper view of how bad it is. How does she know which cases are covid and which aren’t? How much of it is due to the hospital being badly run. And even then, does any of this justify measures that are most probably not effective anyway, but are costing much more in the long run.
I’m almost definitely not going to respond to it but curious if anyone else has a view?
It looks like clear propaganda. Even allowing that some doctors do see the concentrated shit in the U-bend, it is hysterically at odds with the real indicator – death numbers.
This will be am interesting court case. Pity that the sheriff court on Bute was closed down by the SNP government as “not economically viable”.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-55414817
Most likely result will be FPNs which they will pay up and it will just be brushed under the carpet. It’s a tricky one for the BBC and MSM because they need to show that people are being caught and punished, but have to stay quiet about anybody refusing to pay fines or court cases being thrown out.
Part of Shetlands reascertian last week to ‘Faroe-off’ from Scotland included Shetland comment about how badly all the Island have been treated by SNP rule. Shetland appeared to me to be making comment following on from Aberdeen Council’s recent vote to skip Holyrood and deal directly with Westminster for funding matters.
I never imagined I would be 3 days before Christmas and wanting to tear down Costco with my hands. I am not even a member and I want to see them burn.
Johnson’s position is now untenable and Hancock no more get rid
True.
Is this a post from March?
Today, the kids and I went for a stroll through our village. Passed through the Church yard, church locked still after 9 months. Two ladies at the gates chatting. One muzzled. Loudly (deliberately) stating that this “new strain passes between kids much more quickly”. Then out from behind her pops a kid in a mask.
I said to my daughter “should I tell her the facts?” She shrugged and said “no, what’s the point”.
That’s where we are at. This nightmare has got worse and worse this past week.
They are burning everything and everywhere to the ground now, and the insanity of people is out of control. The thing about burning everything is that in the end we will all end up with a set of matches. And that’s not a good outcome.
I think the sheer unpleasantness towards children has been one of the most horrible aspects of this year. Whether it’s teachers demanding children wear masks in and out of school grounds or the politicians pushing the idea that the ‘new’ mutation affects them more than adults, we seem to be creating a terrible mistrust between the generations. The demand to close the schools next month is just one more cruel blow to undermine young people’s chance of a future. It’s Orwellian.
Yes, absolutely correct. In fact, this includes attitudes towards young adults too. My kids are 18 and 20, and very aware of it, both here, and overseas – they were in Spain over the summer. Many seem to have forgotten they were young once, and most had the benefit of free university education, the opportunity to get on the housing ladder, and in the main, jobs for anyone who was prepared to work.
When I was that age the most important things to me were my friends, going out, playing sport, watching sport, meeting new people, going on holiday, drinking, dancing, singing, partying, live gigs and getting laid.
ALL these things are denied to young people too and my heart bleeds for them
Agree – and it is totally unnatural and unsustainable.
I’m about that age and I just feel I’m done with everything. The bastard zoom universities have a lot to answer for as well. I’m failing and don’t really care.
Red Dwarf 4th Season D.N.A. episode. Kryten’s explanation of what messing around with DNA can do is eerily similar to what’s in the Pfizer MRNA vaccine
Looks like all too many of us are going to let this fruit bat of a government diddle with our DNA, though….
“Care home resident who broke hip in fall died after testing positive for Covid-19 in hospital”
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/care-home-resident-who-broke-19499633
How many thousands of others are there, who become a Covid stat in this way?
I think this approach will scare the hell out of anyone offered the vaccine, dread to think how many deaths will have to be put down to the vaccine when they happen in 28 days. Oh hang on we don’t want to scare people, so we’ll use a different measure!
Unfortunately this sort of thing has been going on for a long time. Covid is a convenient excuse to cover up bad treatment or neglect. My wife and I lost both our grandmothers just prior to this covid rubbish starting.
Both died from complications incurred while in hospital (1 misdiagnosis and 1 hospital bug) yet both were put down as old age and frailty (respectively) on death certificates. Heaven forbid the hospital has to take the blame for neglecting patients (particularly old people).
Covid is the perfect smoke screen for a failing system…be that medical, financial or societal.
Never let an old loved one go into hospital. Let them die at home.
Just seen this
https://twitter.com/TheRustler83/status/1341335555272036352?s=19
Freedom of information request in Scotland
26 deaths from covid
From a population of 867,000
1 in 33,000
Same period 9000 died of other causes
1 in 100
Got some word of mouth info from an inside source although I don’t know how accurate this is. Big retail business placing staff on furlough again from the 5th of January. Currently in tier 2. Same business got a phone call from government source which guaranteed the lockdown would not be extended at the start of the month.
If this is true then they’ve been told to expect lockdown by the 5th.
I honestly don’t think it will be as long as the 5th. I am going with 27/28th.
It’s inevitable. Doubt they’ll wait for the new year though. My guess is an announcement at the weekend, a good few days before Johnson sells us down the river on brexit.
agree – they’ll wait for xmas day to be over and announce at the weekend a lockdown so prevent people getting together for new year…
Well the new laws mention a resonable excuse for leaving one’s home being to vote in an election or referendum – why put that in if they are *not* already planning for the country to *still* be locked down in May?
That election will be postal only. With some nice counting machines.
Ireland from Rte: Travel ban from Britain extended to 31 December https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1222/1185901-travel-ban/
This is all to do with that pesky mutant which was launched by Hancock the other day. I wonder if he is regretting it yet?
Strangely, there’s no mention of the Ireland / NI border to keep the mutants out of the Republic. Is that the end of the common travel area? I assume NI is still part of the UK or have they swapped it for the fish yet? (only joking!)
Reading the article, a probably Republican attempt to cut off NI from the rest of the UK was defeated by a Stormont vote. Essential travel between RoI and NI by road is continuing. For those living very close to the border there might be quite a lot of it.
Fantastic irony about the UK not honouring the border then the Republic shits the bed and enforces is because of “the virus”.
Ireland has the ability as an island to be a control group and for once, not be the very stereotypical retards that we are often mistaken for.
Sorry? Have the republic now implemented a hard boarder between them and mainland UK ? WTF ?
woke up this morning to hear someone make a joke about scientists becoming celebrities saying they wouldn’t be surprised if Neil Ferguson turns up on Strictly Come Dancing next year.
There’s only one dance I want to see that piece of shyte do.
Can I pull the trap lever please.
I’ll tie the knot.
I’d like to see him do the Tyburn jig.
Well i’m heading out to the wilds of exmoor tomorrow in my campervan – finally found a camp site that’s open and doesn’t sound too zealous on rules etc. So 3 or 4 days of nature, walking and cycling, good food with red wine in the evening and detox from all this hysteria and recharge batteries.
I had an invite from my family but i said i could bear the thought of shopping with masks etc and i’m really not a fan of xmas (I’m a bit bah humbug on that front and think it’s one big commercial spendfest of crap which people can’t afford and probably don’t need). So looking forward to getting out the city and it may be the last time for a while since we’re bound to be locked up in new year. Wishing all the sceptics a festive time
Sounds lovely. Have a great time!
Enjoy!
You sound like a kindred spirit, Sue – have a great time. Just reading your post has cheered me up a bit!
don’t be down Matt – get out and about in the countryside – forget all the shit for a while and recharge!! The bastards can’t take nature from us!
Can I come?…….
all welcome
I nearly moved to Wiveliscombe 20 years ago…wish I had….bugger!!
Lovely! Will do you the world of good. Happy Saturnalia!
Enjoy yourself Sue.
Enjoy! Nothing beats a good escape.
Sounds very nice. I hope you enjoy a period of peace, tranquility, decent weather and good wine.
Merry Christmas!
Ferguson
The go to Professor when you want to sell a vaccine
It sickens me that this man – who is basically a savant – is controlling the close relationships of near enough everyone in the country.
Tom, he is not a savant. His modeling is nothing special. He is no great intellect – presumably why he moved across from physics into epidemiology.
I’d put my house on it that he buys his underwear from K-Mart and counts cards in Vegas with Tom Cruise. Yes… that’s it. It all makes sense now.
Haha!
Rasputín is closer I think.
Unbelievable!! Nicola is “considering” an even more draconian lockdown, due to the “new (made up) strain of the virus”
Which she said “ over one in 10 covid infections were linked to the new strain in early December”
& this is a total new one below, I’ve never ever heard of this one before..
She said “There is continuing technical work underway on the use of the S-Gene dropout as a marker for the new strain and it is not absolutely definitive that every case with this marker will be the new variant.
“However, this analysis suggests that in the week beginning December 9 around 14% of positive cases in Scotland already had this S-Gene dropout. This compares to just 5% at the end of November.”
The wee boot added: “It is not unreasonable to assume that the proportion may be higher by now. And Public Health Scotland is carrying out further analysis.
Sickening!!!
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-warns-even-tighter-23206418
I actually wouldn’t mind the harshest of harsh lockdowns now. Just to prove beyond any doubt they don’t work.
I understand what you are saying Tom, but, it really should be crystal clear by now to the sheeple that it doesn’t work & that this is just being made up as they go along.
It is really starting to properly properly piss me off, the amount of utterly brainwashed tits up here in the dictatorship that is now Scotland.
Agree with you on this one. If a really harsh lockdown was introduced, the zealots would just lap it up and when it didn’t work the argument would still be that it was the fault of the non-compliant. It could end up with calls for a “final solution” of eliminating the non-compliant to “save” everyone else. I used to avoid Nazi analogies but 1930s Germany moved quite quickly from smashing Jewish-owned shops to killing the owners.
A ‘real’ harsh lockdown that really stopped all contact would be a different beast compared to the middle class only home baking fest in the spring. No police, fire service, hospitals or supermarkets. Power, water and internet fail after a couple of weeks because maintenance stops. Rubbish piling up and impossible to buy food, drink and fuel. I don’t think any country has actually tried this. Our course of action continues to be causing the maximum harm for the least benefit. Stop it all today. Stop it.
Be careful what you wish for, the sheeples’ continuing obedience will allow them to keep getting away with more and more.
Agreed.
Stuff people’s throats with lockdowns till they can’t take any more.
It’s what people obviously want.
The harder the regime, the greater the reaction when it comes.
We’ve had nine months of proof Tom.
me too…I would love to see a TOTAL lockdown…the BBC/sport/Media/all the institutions for 6 months?the supermarkets having to share the shopping load so people have NO CHOICE/Amazon closed….EVERYBODY etc etc..lets see where that takes us?…towards Cuba probably
Yes – everything at absolutely barebones level.
Everybody to get 100% of salary printed up by the Bank Of England.
We would then be able to stop 90 % of public transport.
we are heading that way…a ‘socialist’ state…….it started with John Major 30 years ago…….
Don’t insult Cuba – they had a real infection to deal with – the U.S.
Fuck off. They’d love it. I don’t want any lockdown.
I was being somewhat ‘ironic’ John
Well – I guess that’s Witchcraft for you – the alternative to Science.
please dont call her ‘Nicola’
“fishface”?
Sorry, I usually call her the little dictator, or el Presidente Sturgeon, or the stupid wee boot, plus other names.
I didn’t mean to call her by her first name, I was just very very angry after I seen that.
Apologies.
In their further analysis, are they looking at the persons who present with this strain? Their – if – symptoms, duration and severeness of illness?
I hope so, and hopefully it confirms that this strain is less “dangerous”!
“Johns Hopkins University’s student newspaper, the News-Letter, reported on a university presentation stating that COVID-19 “had no effect on the percentage of deaths of older people” and that the virus “has also not increased the total number of deaths” in comparison to historical data. However, the paper later removed the article, stating that it had been used to support “dangerous inaccuracies” on social media.”
…..
“Briand told Campus Reform that the News-Letter’s decision to remove the article was its own, and pointed out that she explained “during the presentation where I found and downloaded the data from, so anyone can easily replicate my analysis.” “
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/johns-hopkins-newspaper-removes-study-examining-covid-death-rate
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Thanks. Censorship in action!
Living in a serialisation of 1984
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/johns-hopkins-newspaper-removes-study-examining-covid-death-rate
Sir Colin Davis ‘The Spirit of Christmas’. London Symphony Orchestra, John Alldis Choir. Forty-seven glorious minutes of great Christmas tunes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TpPOhnw2V8
RIP Sir Colin
I think one of the massive losses at this time of year is real live music. I find it hard to listen to the recorded substitute, knowing what we are missing – and how people are willingly processing into the mental gas chamber.
I think for those like me, who are interested in visual arts, the greatest loss is not being able to just pop into an art gallery on the way somewhere, spontaneously, and to see artworks in real life
I’m sure that’s true, Alice. 2020 has been the year of the greatest cultural impoverishment that I can remember.
There’s a lot of anti-BBC feeling here. Justifiably.
But I remember a time when, despite the undoubted establishment bias of the BBC, there was a degree of balance – backed by a more varied printed media.
That has gone – I accidentally turned on BBC News tonight, and it is overwhelmingly propaganda as far as Covid is concerned. You would never believe that all-cause mortality is actually falling!
The fiction that has been created is all-embracing and universally impoverishing.
Following the announcement that the government has pulled back from plans to defund the BBC, I suspect that this was part of a deal – if the BBC agreed to support the government’s fear propaganda on Covid, the Tories would in turn agree to keep the compulsory licence fee.
Couldn’t agree more. I sing in a choir and we’ve had four concerts cancelled this year. I miss it more than I can say.
I find myself dreaming of singing in part-harmony. Our little parish church choir was tiny (sometimes only three people) but we still managed Choral Evensong in three parts. The church is so small that they can’t, apparently, ‘socially distance’ the choir. I can’t see that coming back now, to be honest.
I still listen to lots of recorded music, but I’ve pretty much given up on live streaming (or catching up on it later) as it’s a poor substitute for attending a concert. If I’m listening at home I may as well do other things at the same time instead of staring at a screen.
It’s bliss to hear the organ at church.
I often watch his Sibelius No 2/Proms performance with the Mahler/Euro Youth Orchestra from a few years ago…its very moving.On You Tube
Sitrep from the heartlands of the Infected Zone, deepest darkest Tier 4.
Drove out from the nothern commuter belt (is it still called the commuter belt, now that no one actually commutes any more?) today to meet people for a walk in a Tier 2 area. Initially planned to take the back roads, but couldn’t be bolloxed in the end so did M25 and M40 as usual.
Just where are all those people going?! Literally nothing is open! And to think I was worried about sticking out like a sore thumb and getting police checked. Traffic was free-flowing (which of course is, or was, unusual for the M25) but constant – all lanes full. Car after car after car. Others escaping to the temporary reprieve of Tier 2 perhaps?
After about the third “Stay Home Tier 4” sign, I was tempted to take a swipe at one as I drove past.
It was strange to see people sitting in restaurants and cafes, and browsing the shops for their Christmas shopping. Stuff is actually open! It’s only been 4 days since I was in Tier 2 myself but it feels like a lifetime away. I gazed upon the residents in awe – envying them their normal lives – before remembering, of course, that Tier 2 is in fact far from normal. That’s what the govt plan is I suppose, to normalise living like this, and it feels like it might be working.
Nice to get out, but overall a depressing day, arriving back and seeing all the cars crammed into the local retail park because Sainsbury’s is now literally the last place we’re allowed to go.
it we were in usa i’m sure that those signs saying ‘stay at home’ would have been shot multiple times!
Anyone think PRC will atack ROC on Jan 21st? Wikipedia is laying out the ground, just read it. Biden is now a chy-nese asset and will do nothing. Only Trump + US military can stop CCP world domination. Boris, Macron, Merkel in cahoots to sell out UK to become another EU dominion. False flags everywhere.
There’s certainly trouble brewing in the USA, whatever happens. If the accusations of the Dems cheating is upheld, or if it turns out the Trump team has been making it all up. Neither is going to have a good outcome.
2021 – The year of unending shit-shows.
The cheating certainly isn’t made up.
Exactly!
The media and lots of senior Republicans have clearly decided it is time for regime change – thats all that matters.
If Trump is as smart as people think I am staggered he allowed mass postal voting and hackable voting machines. Also why did he let the Covid scam perpetuated by the CDC take such a hold.
Biden is going to be incredibly tyrannical – expect plenty of wars and false flag events.
It is said that Trump has all the real data from the night of the election and that he allowed this to happen in order to reveal the depth of the ‘swamp’..
Well let’s hope he pulls it off!
Agree particularly with your second paragraph.
Biden isn’t going to be anything, he’s gaga.
These things are in the hands of the individual states I believe. e.g. Florida did well on preventing postal voting fraud.
Congress still has to certify Biden’s “win” in the new year, that could be interesting.
Trump can implement his State of Emergency (2018) and bring in martial law. He can then get a free and fair election done, supervised by the military. Hope he does.
LOL! Now that would really put the cat among the pigeons.
But I don’t think the US is anywhere near the Spanish 1936 situation, though some of the broad shapes of that situation can be discerned, and I doubt Trump would be capable of pulling off what Franco did anyway. Imo we’d need a couple of radical Democrat election wins, with significant economic collapse and some really widespread BLM/antifa mass murderous thuggery, to bring us to the point where such a move could succeed. Then, the man would need to come to match the hour also, or there would be a general collapse into Maoist revolutionary turmoil.
There might come a day in our lifetimes when that will happen. But it is not, I think, this day.
Well, all the pieces are in place: the executive order, the Pentagon under new leadership. Trump can argue that the Supreme Court has failed in its duty, Bill Barr similar, federal and state judiciaries compromised. What are the prospects for America if Trump does not act? What are the prospects for Republicans, patriots, blue-collar workers?
I don’t think enough of the Republican hierarchies would back Trump to bring the military on board (a lot of the military high command are Democrat placemen, as well, remember), and the states would mostly refuse to back him.
Things are bad, but they aren’t nearly bad enough yet for that kind of solution to be supported, imo.
If Trump does not act, western democracy is over.
Perhaps, though there’s a lot of ruin in a superpower and it might be a while yet before things come to a head. Other opportunities might arise. Trump will not necessarily be the last or best opportunity to turn things around.
The release of the list of CCP members in influential positions in the US, and in other western countries, was both enlightening and worrying..
But he won’t already bought off
God help us if they have Martial Law to sort out an election, it really is banana republic stuff. Probably getting to the stage where states are better off breaking away. The CIA and deep state seem to be in control no matter who is in power officially – and no one gets to have a say on that.
That’s it. Trump has taken on the CIA.
Which is better: totalitarianism (Biden), martial law (Trump) or civil war? I say option 2, so long as a free and fair election is called.
He can use the insurrection act without bringing in martial law..
Point.
What’s this bullshit? Wikipedia can be edited by anyone.
Have a beer and chill John for God’s sake…..
Just read the Wiki entry and ask who and why.
Trump is all that stands between us and unending darkness.
Sorry. Had to laugh at that one – unending dimness as a barrier against everlasting darkness!
Maybe so. But even if Trump is dim – which I doubt – do you not suppose there are some sharp operators on his team?
Without being any sort of Trump apologist, I agree with you.
Speaking as a Trump apologist – thank you.
Which page?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/mystery-taiwan
Interesting. Who’d have thought that less testing would lead to less “cases”
Thanks, will read. My dad is of the opinion that China will not invade but the Taiwanese leadership will do a deal to reunify.
thanks, I am not an expert but I believe I can see a bigger picture. Deals are the globalist’s MO
That’s my expectation as well.
“Anyone think PRC will atack ROC on Jan 21st?“
I’ll take that bet, if you think it’s a possibility.
Admittedly I’ve stopped paying much attention to foreign affairs this year, due to more pressing concerns in this country, but I doubt the hard facts have changed much in that time. Still far too dangerous militarily for China to attack Taiwan unless their hand is forced by formal recognition or too much arming, and they presumably still see it as better to wait while circumstances move in their direction.
The are in the process of overtaking the US economically, but military power is a lag indicator and they still lack the ability to match US military capabilities in key areas.
Time is still clearly on their side. Why would they court disaster in that situation?
As for our side, it’s likely a war with rising China will be every bit as disastrous for the US even if it “wins” as the wars against rising Germany and Japan were for us. Better hope it doesn’t come to pass.
We couldn’t stop a piss up in a brewery we have no affective military left a leaky out of date carrier with 2 duff yank planes that cost fuck knows how much.
The saddest part is that our elites are probably still stupid enough to stick our noses in (jammed into Washington’s backside as they are), as though who runs Taiwan is of the slightest concern to us when our own country is descending into authoritarian hysterics and economic absurdity.
Spot on, my MP in the second Iraq war crime was Geoff Hoon a more pompous cunt than you would think possible, loved being in the limelight.
My Dad was in the 8th Army in N africa. Later he was in charge of Polaris missile operational preparedness. Then the UK was a nation ready and able to defend itself. Now the EU wants to steal our (US) military technology using a serial adulterer (Boris). CORRUPTION is our weakness, exploted by the CCP and others.
Corruption is everybody’s weakness. The whole situation is traceable to it.
Just got the letter from the school about the testing (LFT and they are voluntary – so guess what we won’t be doing!). Anyway, what do you lovely lot make of this statement in the said letter:-
“We know these tests work – in validation studies conducted by Oxford University and Public Health England, they were shown to be as accurate in identifying a case as a PCR test (99.68% specificity). The tests have lower sensitivity but they are better at picking up cases when a person has higher viral load, hence the need to test frequently.”
What do you think the uptake will be? Are they on a regular basis or just one off?
It will be weekly I think yes. I have no idea what the uptake will be, but from this household it will be zero. At least it’s voluntary (for the moment)
Thanks for the reply – I presume this is secondary education ?
Correct – yes – I can’t wait for a couple of years time when I will never have to deal with the education system again. I’m not getting involved with their universities if they go – they can do that themselves.
I would not recommend it- Zoom University is a bad joke.
I can’t even start to imagine it. I hate zoom meetings at the best of times.
We don’t use zoom specifically but it’s still a load of shite that I’ve grown to despise. Can’t wait until I’m done with it.
Thanks for post and all the best for the next weeks, months etc!
It is this paragraph that worries me, as the percentage specificity makes it look like it’s more accurate than it is, and I get confused myself – I just know it doesn’t mean what he thinks it means (to paraphrase Inigo Mantoya):-
“We know these tests work – in validation studies conducted by Oxford University and Public Health England, they were shown to be as accurate in identifying a case as a PCR test (99.68% specificity). The tests have lower sensitivity but they are better at picking up cases when a person has higher viral load, hence the need to test frequently.”
I would assume a person who tests positive with a high viral load here will consequently develop symptoms, unless they have great immune system. In both cases they would develop immunity and cannot transmit any live virus.
So why more frequent testing? Unless they mean every day for 2 weeks, by then the body has killed the virus.
Typical contradicting of the govt we have heard for 9 months now.
I’d translate that as they pick up genuine infections = high viral load. I can’t see how that’s less accurate than a 45ct PCR test that picks up any old dead debris.
More frequent LFT testing therefore is presumably because of the mythological asymptomatic transmission.
I had thought that LFT was less invasive but it’s still a nose and throat job by the sounds of it, so they’re definitely not getting our consent. My main objection is going along with the fraud at all though, just to bump up the false positives.
Exactly!
This invasiveness just doesn’t make any sense – other than as another submission ritual.
If SARS-CoV-2 is so infectious and cunning that if can creep out of the nose and mouth, defeat any mask and then jump 2m in the fresh air – how come you need a swab stuck deep down your throat and up your nose to detect it?
‘the need to test frequently’…. *that is the aim* – we’ve already seen the plans for the covipass. They want to get young people accustomed to seeing this as ‘normal’ for access to everyday life…
I had already drafted an email a few days ago, when I saw this coming from the news. Have I got anything very wrong?:-
“There is no reason to test healthy (asymptomatic) people for anything, and particularly the young for a condition for which they are the demographic least affected. There is no scientific basis for the theory of asymptomatic spread – it is an extremely rare occurrence.
The only possible reason for these tests being forced, is to pump up the numbers of (false) positive ‘cases’ for the manipulated government graphs, and therefore keep the whole fraud going indefinitely. If the majority haven’t seen this by now, then there isn’t much point in an education system at all.
A ‘case’ is not a ‘case’ of any illness without symptoms – until March this year, no doctor would ever diagnose a ‘case’ of anything without symptoms being present.
A positive PCR test in the absence of symptoms, is therefore not a ‘case’. It is a screening tool, not to be used for diagnostic purposes – this is even stated on the label on the test and on the PCR machine.
PCR tests are the biggest fraud in this whole fiasco – there is currently a class action being carried out in Germany by Dr Reiner Fuellmich against Christian Drosten, concerning the misuse of these tests. Without them, we would not have had this casedemic. No global pandemic has ever left the world with lower than average all-cause mortality before, so this year’s problems cannot be defined as a pandemic in any real sense. If we had a ‘spike’ in the UK, it ended in May, and what we have now is a seasonal resurgence, that will happen every year at this time as for every respiratory illness. Flu has been all but eradicated according to the official statistics, you may be interested to know.”
Sounds about right. Ensure you reference it though.
Sorry – which bit?
Asymptomatic spread ? PCR = rubbish ?
As I’m sure has been said before – if it were not for the government pronouncements, helpfully transmitted via the MSM, would anyone be aware that the world was supposedly in the grip of a ‘pandemic’ at the moment?
Surely one would only think something was ‘up’ if there were literally bodies in the streets and a lot of your close friends were dying… which is *not* happening…
Yes – there is another bit actually where I say that :
There is no basis in science for these tests being carried out at a population level – it is a meaningless exercise, as we have seen all year by there being hundreds of thousands of ‘cases’ but very few sick or dying people
And then I mention that the world in on course for a low all-cause mortality for the year – not exactly pandemic-like
Add the link to the recent WHO guidance about only testing symptomatic patients.
https://www.who.int/news/item/14-12-2020-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users
Thank you – good idea
That’s a good summary.
That is a complete lie. The Government’s published a paper that said 95% in lab conditions. That’s it. Ignore it or send them the document from SAGE. Good luck.
That’s what I thought. I’m crap at the specificity calcs. Will have to find an example somewhere. I think they’ve put that % in there so that people think that it’s 97% accurate. Which is what most people think isn’t it.
BBC article
UK to face worst recession in 300 years as Covid crisis continues. The “economic emergency” caused by Covid-19 has only just begun, according to chancellor Rishi Sunak, as he warned the pandemic would deal lasting damage to growth and jobs. Official forecasts now predict the biggest economic decline in 300 years.
So what happened in 1720?
Answer: The mass hysteria and super fraud of the South Sea Bubble
Couldn’t make it up
Is this article from the Summer?
April
Not “pandemic”, LOCKDOWNS.
Too right
I understood that the 300 years thing referred to the Great Frost of 1709, which pretty much destroyed the British economy.
”Caused by….” As you say – couldn’t make it up.
Viva la revolución
Sí, cuanto antes.
Knew I’d find it again the video with the “new normal” being mentioned last year and earlier.
Took me longer than I thought it would but it’s on here (the news report about halfway in) but also includes the Irish leader talking about it at a Bill Gates/WEF meeting last year and someone else back in 2012 which is a plus.
https://twitter.com/lyne_ian/status/1341387185447059457
Explains why the Republic is so hung ho and pro-narrative on it all.
Plans for 30-minute Covid testing in England halted amid accuracy fears
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/22/plans-for-30-minute-covid-lateral-flow-tests-in-england-halted-over-accuracy-fears
I presume the issue being that not enough people test positive having used one.
yes, according to the faulty LFT there is no global pandemic globally
Yep, too many negatives. They like tests that do more positives.
“But the plans were shelved within days of a phone call last week between the government and directors of public health, who raised concerns over accuracy.”
Highly suspicious
Who made the phone call and to whom?
“a phone call” What one phone call?
“within days of a phone call last week”
Why not just state the date the decision was made?
The Guardian description of the process could allow for the decision to have been made today or yesterday (but fool people into thinking the decision was made last week)
Was the decision made today or yesterday? and after the French insisted that these tests were required to allow lorry drivers to return to France
What are the advantages of causing mayhem in the South East?
Brexit smokescreen – it will all be the fault of the French!
the cheese eating surrender monkeys
Don’t forget freedom fries! (chips)
They’re fearful that the results may be too accurate and they won’t obtain the level of false positives they want?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/lost-husband-son-in-law-covid-anyone-refuses-vaccine-can-answer/ (paywall) but comments not allowed so we can’t ask how old the husband was , how old the son in law was and whether had underlying health conditions. At her age, if the vaccine has side effects that don’t become apparent for a few years, she may not be around to experience them.
Coercive propaganda. Don’t know why they sink to this low level – I think the middle classes and young are very keen on it, the level of street mask wearing is a giveaway.
I bloody well will answer to her – if everyone else takes the vaccine then they’re not at risk from my disgusting, diseased, leper self, so why the hell do I need it as well? I am a healthy 22 year old who is minimally affected by Covid but presented with unknown long-term vaccine risks. Therefore, the risks of the vaccine, for me, outweigh the risks of the disease at this point in time. That’s MY personal health decision to make and she can absolutely get to fuck if she thinks she has the right to decide what goes into a stranger’s – my own – body.
Agree. I read somewhere that the so-called vaccine gives you a status similar to a genetically engineered tomato.
And once again no mention of the fact that it is likely that a significant majority of the population are now immune without needing any medical intervention so are no risk to anyone by not accepting a ‘vaccine’
Comments were enabled earlier, some were hilarious, absolutely panning the stupid woman. Very few agreeing. Guess thats why they were disabled. Emotional blackmail of the finest order.
Hopefully it will persuade a few more to cancel their subscriptions. The paper has plummeted in quality this year – completely sold out to the globalists.
I forgot to cancel mine last month but I’m increasingly happy about having done so since. This last few days have been unbelievably bad.
I think I’ve only paid a couple of months full price, as I was on intro offers before then.
DT did do better than the Spectator. I’d had enough of that one halfway through my free intro month!
The Times is worse. Editorial the other day: “PM finally does the right thing on Christmas” or something like that. Didn’t read it obviously.
Funny you mention this I cancelled my subscription just a week ago.
The whole article is a big puff for her book (co-written with her daughter) about grieving. Hmmm….. Ignore.
Stephen Fry?
Did have comments initially and there was no support for her , so they got dropped.
Poppy has about summed up the comments that I saw.
She mentions the the SIL sadly died in Feb and had toured China – would that not make him the first registered UK Covid death (previously thought to be 2nd March)?
Yes, he is Andy Gill the rockstar who is thought to be potentially first UK victim. I think a member of the band’s crew also died or was seriously ill as well.
good point
Someone needs to let this woman know that having this jab won’t stop her or anyone else catching and passing on the virus. So really what is the point- other than propaganda that anyone with half a brain can see right through.
I know elderly people who died from flu, but I don’t go around screaming at people who don’t have the flu vaccine.
No outrage against cigarettes or poverty
Mrs Awkward watching the evening news.
The “experts” they re talking to are data analysts. No medical people.
All I can say is I’m going for a beer, and “fuck the experts”.
I’m fed up listening to them.
If there was only some professor somewhere that was good at analysing data and came from a medical background
a sort of centre for evidence based medicine type professor
unfortunately ‘evidence’ is an outlier of modern science
There are, of course, plenty, but they know which side their bread is currently buttered on. If/when the vaccines develop major problems, a lot of bread slices are going to fall into the sheet, buttered side down!
I hope their are some behavioural experts present to keep it all scientific
Yep; for some reason rusty pokers keep coming to mind.
Only rusty?
and blunt
Priti Patel states that the government objective is…
“to save lives and to keep people safe”
A meaningless statement with no parameters. How many lives and how safe is safe?
This is why there can be no end as there is no defined end point and people will blindly go along with it forever if needs be.
They won’t but it may be too late when they wake up.
define “too late”
When the full China-style dystopia is in place. Very hard to change much then.
Only save lives from Covid. Lives lost to suicide, lack of treatment, cancer, isolation, poverty, anything but Covid really doesnt matter
In other words, they’re achieving neither of her stated goals.
It’s just meaningless waffle beloved of government functionaries and Common Purpose types, like those stupid mottoes of councils etc, eg: ‘West Twatford Borough Council: encouraging safety and diversity for all’ etc.
What about cancer, car accidents, heart attacks, can she do anything about them
This is crude bit of analysis.
The 7 day average mortality figure last peaked on the 21st November at 487.
It looks to be climbing back to what it was.
The reported number of deaths between the 21st Nov. and the 22nd Dec. is 13,681
If there was no November lock down and the 487 figure had remained constant the total over the same period would have been 15,097.
15,097 – 13,681 = 1,461.
Is this a fair way to measure the number of lives the last lockdown saved?
If it is, clearly, the government could have saved more lives at a lower financial cost to the public purse and without the damage caused by a lockdown?
I’m not being kept safe because at some point soon I will become suicidal from it all.
I’d like to be kept safe by not sharing a supermarket with people who have germ-ridden rags on their faces and are touching them and everything in sight.
I guess that’s not what she meant?
The Lancashire Hotpots (not “hotspots”) have a reassuring message for the children.
https://youtu.be/-sAvnhY0-5A
That’s brilliant! Thanks.
I suspect that will be my whatsapp christmas card this year!
thats awful . reinforcing all the lockdown / covid crap . Lancashire Tosspots .
I assumed it was satire. Am I too cynical?
I think it’s satirical. My take is that it is finely balanced, intending to look innocent whilst sending up all the biosecurity nonsense.
So I thought I’d put it out here for consideration.
The description says it was played on BBC 6 radio channel.
Some straight talking from Neil Oliver on Talk Radio. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_HHiwi7Vy0
One of the great mysteries today is that it is believed that social distancing and mask wearing has reduced flu to almost nil.
Except one of the very papers used to justify wearing masks, which looked at patients with symptoms in Hong Kong, specifically pointed out that it was only coronaviruses that had a reduction with a mask. Flu and rhinoviruses were basically unaffected.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971220324504#bib0005
or flu being mis-diagnosed as covid has reduced flu to almost nil
Can’t be – too fucking obvious
ooops! Bit of a dead giveaway.
It says on the box, in clear text, for N95 masks that they do not protect against coronaviruses
I think Covid is just the dominant respiratory virus this year. Flu strains vary massively from year to year, disappear and then come back again.
MSM says if all goes well ,we shall achieve 67% herd immunity by July.
If we had carried as normal like we did during the Asian and Hong Kong flu’s, we would have achieved that NOW!!!
yes, we did
I would love to ask the natural immunity deniers what they think actually ended historical pandemics. Did the virus just eventually give up and went home?
Good point. I’ll try to remember to use that one.
And half the number of people would have died.
If the figures are to be believed and of course we do not, I guess we are rapidly running out of people hence the drive to start on the children, so I think we were at herd immunity in June.
‘Natural immunity’ is the term that should be used for it by bodies favouring a more constructive approach. Forget ‘herd immunity’ because of the mistakes made earlier in 2020.
According to the “scientists”, herd immunity is only achievable through vaccination and has potential side-effects.
Natural immunity, on the other hand ……
One theory I’ve seen re. the new mutant variant strain is that it appeared in London/SE first because they’d built up a decent level of natural immunity during the spring (hence the lack of noticeable second wave earlier in the autumn), therefore a faster spreading version would be favoured and outcompete others by being able to infect the remaining vulnerable population more easily.
No idea if it’s true but it does make some level of sense.
BUT THINK OF ALL THE DEAD BODIES!!!
A comforting thought is that eventually human beings will be extinct and will go down as an insignificant blip in the history of planet earth. A truly dreadful species.
What sort of animal are you?
In geological perspective, the term of human existence on this planet won’t even be a blip. Overpopulation and environmental degradation will see us off within the next 200 years at the latest. And I agree, for the planet it will be good riddance.
Well the infertility side-effect for the vaccine might help with that – especially if, as I have heard suggested today, they start vaccinating school-children – we won’t see the impact of the vaccine for 20 years and we’ll have forgotten about this by then (or not?) Don’t allow your children to be vaccinated!!
There is less poverty and pollution than there has been for centuries.
”Dreadful”? It’s all relative. No doubt we had the opportunity to make it better, but I suppose that is only so in science fiction.
Nah, there are plenty of fine specimens among our species.
It’s about time they showed themselves then!
I would be very surprised if this hasn’t been said before (I just can’t be bothered reading 1300+ posts to find out) but many of us thought that Bojo the Clown was a sort of self-deprecating comedy act and therefore thoroughly English. But no, it is actually real – he is a Clown. Even with his oversized clown shoes on he still manages to get both feet in his mouth at the same time.
If it wasn’t so tragic it would be funny.
Boris – The sheeple aren’t afraid enough, what can we do?
Hancock – Why not invent a new thoroughly evil mutant covid to frighten them?
Boris – Oh! Good one Matt. I’ll announce it right away, that will get the bastards trembling.
Out comes his foot and straight into his mouth it goes and down come the shutters at every border we trade with or visit.
So what is this faux pas going to cost? No idea, but the overall cost of his toe-sucking incompetence can be roughly calculated even by me.
Latest estimates of borrowing since April (so not even a whole year) 246 Billion. Estimated UK population 67 Million. Therefore we all owe approx £3671 each so far. But that is not the end is it.
The wealthiest 10% of the nation don’t pay tax because they don’t feel like it. The poorest 10% don’t pay tax because they don’t have any money, so that only leaves 80% at best, so redo the maths and we all owe £4589 each – so far.
Now I have a solution. For the merest fraction of that amount we can hire a mercenary army to take out the entire cabal along with every brain dead MP that hasn’t either spoken out against them or joined the Covid Recovery Group.
So send your donations to oldbill@privatearmy.co.uk and I will take care of it.
Just imagine seeing the heads of all the mindless incompetents on the spikes of Traitor’s Gate!!
Hell, to witness that spectacle I would even visit London, and I can’t begin to tell you how much I detest London.
don’t forget also the big LIE has also tanked the stock exchange and Sterling.
I’m sure it’s WAY out of their clammy hands, and has been for a while. They’ve just been posturing and blathering – and in Madge’s case posing and simpering prettily.
They’ve been allowed to see themselves as important, and to make the sheep see them like that too. It’d be sad if it weren’t so dangerous.
PS Our MP voted FOR the lockdown and then immediately joined the CRG, saying she thought we needed the time to get the act together (or some such innanity). How is THAT for hypocrisy?
Saw this comment on another site, great summary….
Effectively, Boris is happy to pay the following price for ‘protecting our NHS’:
Projected £500 billion extra borrowing.
Hundreds of thousands made unemployed.
Travel industry decimated.
Ditto hospitality industry.
Tens of thousands of small/medium businesses going down the pan.
A surge in suicides and mental health problems.
A timebomb of 200,000 estimated excess deaths due to untreated serious illnesses.
3 million screenings cancelled.
Waiting lists for elective surgery pushing out into infinity.
Private hospitals commandeered but lying empty and unable to operate on private patients.
The real ‘Covidiots’ are those in government, and Boris is King of them all.
Great, except that it’s not Johnson who is paying. It’s the innocent citizens of the UK.
No. Johnson is just a useful idiot. To give him any credit for something that requires autonomy and consideration is giving him FAR too much credit.
I have long suspected that the catalyst for this disaster was the images of overcrowded hospitals in Italy. With the Tories being sensitive to criticism that they don’t care about the NHS, Johnson and Cummings probably thought they’d better act fast to avoid the inevitable negative headlines about patients dying on trolleys in corridors.
It’s never been about ‘saving lives’ – it’s been about proving that the Tories can be trusted with ‘our’ NHS. Unfortunately, they have instead shown that they can’t be trusted with anything.
Even more depressing is that the so-called opposition have been just as bad.
We are ruled by a confederation of dunces.
And those pictures from Italy were faked – the pictures of coffins piled up were from an Italian ferry disaster and the ones inside hospital were from the pneumonia epidemic they had at the end of 2019
TY made the point that they can accept any level of ‘collateral’ as long as ‘Our NHS’ isn’t overloaded. The depressing thing is that they are probably right and that most people agree with them. NHS had become Moloch. Our children and grandchildren must suffer somehow since the ‘rona is no danger to them. The huge debts being built up will probably do that.
Mahyar Tousi latest includes mention of the two UK gov contracts awarded around the beginning of Nov 2020 for vaccine passports. The Hub is one company and Network (iirc) the other. See YT Mahyar Tousi 2nd half of video.
Laurence Fox and some of his associates mentioned it yesterday on twitter.
Ah, if I’ve read it right that’s £42 grand for 11 days’ work :
https://www.contractsfinder.service.gov.uk/Notice/bf6eef14-6345-429a-a4e7-df68a39bd135?origin=SearchResults&p=1
42k and 38k? I read the screen on tousi which was a capture of official release 42 million. Tousi said 42k.
previously commented on – see here for more information
https://dailysceptic.org/2020/12/21/latest-news-230/#comment-314628
Mr Drakeford said: “I have spoken with Father Christmas’ helpers in the North Pole to let them know that of course he will be allowed to enter Welsh airspace on Christmas Eve.
He is able to come to people’s homes as part of his work, though he will make sure he maintains social distancing, wears a face covering, and washes his hands between each house.
It is more important than ever though that children go to bed early on Christmas Eve and not stay up late to try to see him.
If you do see him, please remember to protect Father Christmas and other children, by maintaining social distance and if you leave cookies for him think about having hand sanitiser next to them.”
I feel sorry for Drakeford – he is utterly pointless – very sad
Sorry for Stalin with all the nice bits left out???
Also this:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/worst-covid-coronavirus-rates-world-19506904
Even within the context of the official Covid narrative, Drakeford proves to be an utter failure, apart from achieving an historic first – Wales being top of the list for something global.
I hope you’re not joining in the false assumption that political actions have anything to do with the spread of the virus.
What a fucking wanker! Drakeford, I mean, not Father Christmas. I suppose he thinks he’s being humorous.
I think Santa may have a couple of fingers for Herr Drakeford.
I bet the Germans made similar announcements for children during WW2.
Surely that’s not true, it’s a piss take! Isn’t it?
Absolutely, brain-boggingly true.
In the same article, he has also decreed that the Welsh serfs are allowed to get close enough to swap presents.
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/mark-drakeford-gives-christmas-presents-19505760
It’s getting to the point where Mark Drakeford is no longer a name but a civic duty !
Lets just hope he does not drink the sanitizer!
Cookies. Ffs.
He eats ‘cookies’ once he’s crossed the Atlantic. We have enough shite to deal with without having our sensibilities traumatised !
“There all a bunch of jumped-up fascist bastards”
Classic wisdom from Rab:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4yeqSgNxiE
Rab was a true prophet. A man ahead of his time.
Owes it all to Mary Doll.
My son has been furloughed until February, he is in Pembrokeshire, waiting for his fiancee to join him from Scotland some time after Christmas.
I know a chef who at the beginning of this said he never thought in his profession it would be difficult to be able to work.
Sadly he is also on a very stupid contract by the catering company Compass which gives him hardly any job security or rights.
The Frogs are trying it on.
From the Telegraph live feed:
France contemplates banning un-vaccinated from using public transport
People who fail to get vaccine could be banned from using public transport in France, according to a draft law sparking angry protests from opposition politicians, AFP reports.
Prime Minister Jean Castex on Monday got his cabinet’s backing for a bill that is designed to provide a legal framework for dealing with health crises, including the coronavirus pandemic.
According to the text, which will now be submitted to parliament, a negative Covid test or proof of a “preventative treatment, including the administration of a vaccine” could be required for people to be granted “access to transport or to some locations, as well as certain activities”.
Segregation, maybe they could have seats at the back of buses for the unvaxed
Could go full blown Vichy.
Vichy never ended. The point of Vichy was to preserve the French State, and it survived and thrives.
no they will just join the queue for the back door of the bus with all the gimmigrants who never pay either. The french way…
Fantastic, with 50% of the French not wanting the (trust me I’m a doctor) jab then that wont play into the hands of Marine Le Pen in any way what so ever
What’s the French for ‘Rosa Parks’?
Joan of Arc?
The French have been out on the streets of Gay Paris, toe to toe with the riot police.
Glass houses ?
As another conspiracy theory comes true why do you still cling to the incompetence theory.The global fascist state is taking place before our eyes or is Macron as incompetent as Johnson.
Rosa Jardins-Publiques
Wiping eyes. Thank you!!
liberte
aaand it’s gone
Liberté, Covidité, Stupidité
I love it! Made me laugh out loud.
Me, too!
Macron is a little shit. Sorry, finesse has left me tonight
Wouldn’t worry too much about it… as Officer Crabtree might have said: He is possing in the wand.
vos papiers!
ah un anglais.
pleeease
I’ve been waiting for the sans culottes to rise up.
Increased car sales then. That’s what I think is also happening in the UK despite the job losses. I’ve lost count of how many people I’ve seen learning how to drive as I walk around town. Kind spoils the argument about this being a reset for environmental reasons, though. The relative cost of public transport goes up, including non-monetary ones like having to wear a mask (or being exposed to the virus, if you’re that type of person). Voila, more cars.
I’d been using the train to go to see my DS. £100 return plus cost of senior railcard. Horrible journey, including 4 hours on the awful Crosscountry line, plus running up and down stairs and station platforms with luggage for the train changes.
Nightmare journeys promised this year, due to work on the lines, to say nothing of possible muzzle disputes.
Grasped the nettle and drove my tiny i10 there and back for £50. Won’t be renewing my railcard …..
Yes, heard on the grapevine from someone I know who was in the car trade for many years – the minute mandatory masks came in for public transport, one car dealership he knew, made approx. 1 month’s sales [average, in normal pre-covid times] in about a day and a half this year. A second garage made almost 6 weeks’ worth of [again, typical, average pre-covid] sales, in well under a week.
If you buy a sub-1000cc car made before 2017, it’s exempt from road tax, and costs very little to run. My little runabout costs me about 10p per mile in fuel. Even if you factor in running costs, depreciation etc it’s still much less than going by bus or train. Unless there’s a significant change in public transport prices, I’ll be using that to get around until I go blind or barmy.
People should all acquire mobility scooters and drive them four abreast at 5mph.
Go for the extended range lithium pack. WEF Approved. Good for 100 Miles. Should take around 20 hours excluding toilet breaks.
Human rights are being held to ransom so that pharma and tech
parasitesshareholders can enjoy nicer holidays and afford their second homes in TuscanyPerhaps the revolutions have not finished in France
Proof of a ‘preventative treatment’. Like Vitamin C & D? a big bag of oranges and kiwi fruits?!
They’ll just have a good riot, rip up a few cobble stones and Micron will retreat.
Hope the BBC are defunded after this, they are a disgrace and terrorising people everywhere with their lies.
Alas, I’m sure Bill Gates will be happy to finance them.
Not if the BBC is abolished.
It will just be rebranded.
I think he already did in fact….
BBC doesn’t care anymore. The Vicar of Dibley Christmas special is having Dawn French ‘take the knee’ (and I’m not referring to what bits of the turkey she’s eating) for Black Lives Matter. Can you imagine in the 70s Morecambe and Wise having a bit about the Black Panthers or the IRA? I suspect they know their days are numbered and so they are going full on woke in order to secure external funding.
Just watching a re-run of Yes, Prime Minister. Sir Humphrey says to Bernard, “We are here to see that the Prime Minister is not confused. Politicians are simple people, they like simple choices, clear guidance. ” He’s not wrong.
I’m not convinced that the PM is confused but a lot of the electorate certainly are.
Oh, you think he’s just a good actor do you?
I think Paul Eddington was a better one.
dePiffle is a dreadful actor.
He’s a bullshitter and he blatantly bullshitted his way to being head honcho.
People fell for it then and, unfortunately, too many of the idiots are still giving him the benefit of the doubt 12 monthsworth of lies later.
the PM is a gibbering wet wipe
and the masses are unfortunately unfortunate – ”thick as shit”
He’s an unprincipled shit, but intelligent enough to have worked out by now what he’s got into. He’s fully complicit and responsible – along with his ludicrous butt plug Starmer.
Agreed!
A colleague who has been moonlighting as an ONS tester numpty has just been furloughed until February with contract to May. The irony.
Nice work if you can get it.
If Johnson is not shitting his pants about what he and Matt (Chatty Rat?) have done , they bloody well should be by now.
But I fear not. A self created crisis of Suez levels and he is probably so out of touch that he is fiddling with Princess Nut Nut’s boobs while sucking a Weathers Original, while the UK burns. It’s that or 18 months ministerial experience and a degree in Greek classics makes you especially relaxed in such times.
“We fucked you all, and told you we were doing it for your own good. Merry “Festive” Season plebs”
deliberate stupidity by very stupid people, who lack the ability to see how clumsily stupid they are.
Q….
https://youtu.be/gKOo8rd6T7s
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I doubt very much she allows him to fiddle with them. Considering his track record they’d probably fall of in his hands…
The whole world is burning
If there is an old, ill man in my village, how would we protect him from a virus? One upon a time he might have had a vaccine and become immune to the virus. Probalm solved.
But these days he has the vaccine and becomes immune, just the same as before. But, in addition, the rest of us also have the vaccine. And not only do we have it, but we MUST have it. Who benefits from that, other than the drug company and its shareholders?
Have I missed something?
We would wish the old, ill man no harm and of course would have looked out for him, but we would not have turned the world upside down and wrecked our kids’ futures to save him. He probably wouldn’t have wanted that either.
Vaccinations are for healthy people, to stop them getting a disease. There isn’t any point vaccinating those with the disease or those who have recovered.
The drug companies don’t claim the jab prevents all infections, or transmissions. It is a palliative, much like malaria tablets, which suppress symptoms (from the Latin, meaning a cloak).
But then it’s back to the argument, why would healthy people need to get the vaccine when the virus is no serious threat to them whatsoever?
Either way you look at it, the logic is obviously flawed.
Even more – the vaccine only reduces symptoms. It does not prevent you getting or giving the virus to anyone else. Why on earth would I get it as a healthy person in their 60s? I certainly am not worried about the virus. And if it doesn’t protect other people, what’s the point? Much like masks, really.
And there’s no aluminium in Lemsip as far as I know.
Apparently this vaccine risks an amplified immune response and allergic reaction.
DS lives in a very chilled-out part of the south coast which has just been invaded by refugees from the tier 4 gulag. He says the atmosphere has turned noticeably tense overnight.
I think I’ve seen the same here on the East Coast today. The mask Nazi in Asda was rushed off his feet though, which is encouraging!
Quick update on yesterday’s garage incident – e-Mail to one of the directors sent at 10.22 – very subtle – not emotive and just highlighted my concern that perhaps their training on the guidance needed to be refreshed and my concerns that someone less reasonable than me would be off making complaints to external bodies. 11.10 – I get a phone call from one of their senior managers – he is on site (about 20 mins from Head office) – wants to apologise and confirms all staff now being trained again. So two things – a) credit to them for jumping on it and b) it doesn’t take much – few mentions of Equalities Act and carefully worded expressions of concern to get most businesses on the back foot. Anyone here can do it – and it will make small impacts every day – the overall madness can be overwhelming but we just have eat the elephant one bite at a time ! Thanks for the kind comments yesterday !!
Rejoice!
Good work. I’ve sent a few complaints in to various places this year and it always results in an apology to me and them saying staff will be retrained. Train them properly in the first place!!! I’m amazed these businesses don’t do their due diligence on legal matters.
I’ve often wondered whether murmuring “your actions could be misconstrued as a hate crime. As I’m sure you’re well aware the Police are obliged to log and investigate every allegation. Please don’t make me add that to your contravention(s) of the Equalities Act 2010. “
Well done sir, excellent work. If only Costco were as concerned about keeping within the law.
You are a hero.. Thank you!
Result …slowly slowly catchy monkey
Its odd that the young and the middle classes are keen on mask wearing as apparently they are the ones who are not taking up the vaccines for their kids and why the pharma industry started getting pushy, about the money they are losing.
But if all this vaccine has already been purchased (with public money) why should anyone be losing anything – besides taxpayers, of course?
Yes, I believe they were guaranteed orders. Some of the dealers got their fingers burnt during the Swine Flu swindle, so they wanted a guarantee this time.
After the swine flu debacle, a guarantee should have been the last thing they were granted.
Well. Let me know when the medium to long term effects are clear.
Then we will know what is lost when one takes the jab.
BTW. ‘Jab’ as descriptor for deliberately injecting a foreign substance always grates with me…..
Worries about loss of fertility?
Or think the magic muzzles will suffice?
Still time to make an impact:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564421
put my name to it.
Getting the useless fuckers back is pointless but nice to mess up their xmas
At least it shows that some of us remember we’re supposed to be a parliamentary democracy!
An emotional day for me today, drove over M62 to Yorkshire to see my Dad at his care home. Myself, my partner and Dad’s 83 year old sister singing Christmas carols to him through locked double glazed patio doors and him attempting to sing along via the mobile phones inside and outside. My sister will see him on Christmas Day but only one person allowed inside and behind a screen so we can’t see him.
They are waiting for the lateral flow tests to arrive at the care home and then one person can have close contact, in full PPE. I don’t know if this will even go ahead given the uncertainty about the accuracy of these tests and the care home have said they are awaiting further details. But I feel angry that the tests can be got to Universities before care homes. These poor people have little time left to live so there is an urgency to this. All very, very sad. Devastating really as I feel I have let him down in what may be his last months. I am full of anxiety and sadness most days.
Some observations for you all from today: M62 busy. Popped into Manchester centre when we got back and it was busy. Lots of people in the shops. People sitting together and eating from takeaways on any seating or steps, so closing cafes, restaurants, pubs just means people gather in the streets and businesses go into decline. Carol singers, buskers all out. General feeling of Christmas happiness in the city. Walked past a nail salon with lots of folks having their nails done and a general preparing to celebrate feeling. Perhaps people have stopped taking any notice of the news or announcements?
PS: I went to Wales and stayed over with a friend last Thursday and Friday so if there is a big outbreak of the new variant in Greater Manchester they can blame me!!! Especially since we have done Christmas visiting as normal too!
All this is beyond cruel and disgusting.
Spoke to a neighbour today who was upset about her mother having to go into a care home. I was about to console her by saying at least she’ll be well looked after, and then I realised the reason she was upset was because of the restrictions on visits. This is one of the cruellest aspects of this charade, IMO. My own mother is still ok to live on her own, but we have had a chat with her and she wants to stay in her own home as long as possible (with a live in carer if necessary). I wasn’t sure about that at first but given the problems with care homes, I fully support it now.
My 91 year old aunt is terrified of ever being dragged off to incarceration in a Colditz care home, she tells me she has built up a bottle of ‘pills’ and if they ever come to drag her off, the whole lot is going down washed down with something strong. What a country we have become when our old folks are living in terror of being dragged of to the 21st century version of Newgate.
Where are the human rights lawyers?
Bodily autonomy is sacrosanct, is it not?
Care homes are not prisons, they are care homes and governments have no right to override the bodily autonomy of someone. Let residents of care homes decide whether or not they want to take the risk. It’s not for the Government to decide
If this was common practice in North Korea the mainstream media would be using it as an example of North Korea’s inhumanity
There is a charity called John’s Campaign which I thought was supposed to be getting a class action up against care homes – I bunged them a few quid – haven’t heard any more though. Most ‘human rights lawyers’ seem to pop up only to stop terrorists being deported.
Yes they are still active with this. It’s one step closer and 2 back and been going on for so long now.
Allegedly the “leader” of the “opposition” is a human rights lawyer, but appears to prefer the North Korean approach
‘Care’ homes have become a hell of concrete-hearted cruelty. Their fiendish governors sill deserve a special courtroom at Nuremberg.
Yes. Especially as the draconian rules that hurt their patients and families so cruelly, are for covering their own selfish arses.
If u look at the Sunday Times rich list in the top 20 are care home owners. I caneed tell u with absolute accuracy and a lot of experience that care homes operate on bare minimum staffing levels I. E 1 carer to every 12 residents. The quality of care in the majority is appalling. Interesting though NHS staff won’the have their relatives in a care home miraculously they seem to be able to arrange Continuing Health Care funding on an urgent basis which no other citizen can get.
If you flipped it around and there was a “virus” that was primarily affecting under 3 year olds and mainly those already with severe health issues. Would locking down an entire world and vaccinating everybody of any age make any sense? Nope. That is an argument to have with the pro lockdown, protect the nhs, stay safe wankers.
Another video from Dr Sam Bailey in NZ. Worth watching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw5ldWr9QD0
I wonder how she feels being locked down under that left-wing crackpot?
Indeed. She really is a breath of fresh air from NZ. Her videos are excellent.
that slide deck is sensational. Stellar work . sent to my MP
Who will stick it in the file till the new year. Better things to do with the ten thousand quid they were given to work at home, than spend it on work at home.
Probably but I pulled out this quote.
‘Interventions didn’t save any lives, but probably caused the death of at least 20k already. How is this justification for the continued and considerable damage caused by government policy in response to the virus?’
Got an unusually rapid response saying they had a ‘huge volume of correspondence’, so it’s having some effect.
I have been struggling (again) since the announcement of the Variant. It is so cynical and so very stupid. And whilst on one level I am laughing at the “own goal” Johnson and Hancock have achieved regarding the closing off of the UK (this is one thing I don’t think they anticipated but enlightened people correct me if I am wrong), I am simultaneously appalled that all these countries (most of which already have the variant or other variants which doesn’t really matter one jot) are reacting en masse to such unscientific scaremongering.
I have been thinking a lot (as since early March) and my most recent conclusion is that there are only really two things that matter, in terms of our argument against this:
1 Lockdowns do not work https://www.aier.org/article/lockdowns-do-not-control-the-coronavirus-the-evidence/ (summary of the evidence); and
2 The invalid PCR test (truth about which is in so many sources, not controversial and set out in AG’s brilliant post about his letters to PHE.
It should be enough.
Perhaps why it isn’t – could we get anyone from parliament to answer ONE question:
Is the Government supportive of Agenda 2030?
My MP has all but given up answering my letters. I have even started writing letters for my friends in different constituencies to send to their MPs (one has Steve Baker).
So don’t think I would get a response on the above.
Any takers?
The brick wall is bruising my head.
I would say the current situation has been designed to destroy the airlines (for the Great Reset?), since this mutation was known about in September. I don’t trust a word that comes out of the Government’s mouth
Good point
Not exactly to destroy them, more a sort of neutron-bomb which gets rid of the annoying plebs on package holidays but maintains all the infrastructure to allow the free movement of the Inner Party (politicians, statesmen, sportspeople, environmental activists etc) around the world by private jet.
You are right not to trust the government, but its untrustworthiness has been apparent since day one of the Covid event. The government is a supporter of Agenda 2030 and it’s first cousin, the WEF’s Global Reset. Both of these are globalist agendas, which are no more than window dressing for the Global Vaccine Cull, now being launched on an unsuspecting public.
It’s possible that the ‘Mutant’ was played up deliberately in order to provoke the shut-down response from continental countries, as a means of justifying a possible Brexit Betrayal to be announced in the next few days. Eg, ‘with food supplies cut off, it is with a heavy heart that I have to announce an indefinite postponement of talks. We will continue to trade with the EU on EU terms while not being a member,’ etc.
I’ve thought that myself. Either a reason to delay the end of transition or an explanation for food shortages after 31 December.
I’ll give Johnson his dues – he’s got a fantastic poker face. I really can’t tell which way this is going to go.
Gave you a tick – and I voted remain! What a lot I have learned since then.
We’re completely in bed wth them with defence contracts. UK Column have been spelling it out for weeks.
The Brexit brinksmanship is likely just theatre and should not be taken at face value.
No I don’t they have been hoist by their own lies no more no less. One thing we know is this Govt is they never plan anything through it is on the hoof decision making. To think otherwise is letting them off the hook.
Hoisted by our own retard (sic)
Brilliant. I’m going to use that.
Not for one minute did Johnson Wancock’s and their deranged scientists ever consider the consequences of the whopping big lie Wancock’s told in Parliament about the variant. As has been the case throughout this they have goto away with so many lies courtesy of the MSM covering their arses with relentless propaganda they’very told one lie too many now. These decisions are made with little or no thought. They are drunk with power now and they have dropped a major bollock. They have, on the back of a whopping big lie declaring the UK plague central caused massive intl blowback tanked the stock exchange and sterling out of their thirstuff for more power. They have been completely taken aback by countries closing their borders to us. They have no way out other than apologise which they won’t do out if monstrous hubris so the MSM are trying to protect them by again pumping out more scaremongering stats. Shame on the MSM. Monstrous egos powerlust and Monstrous incompetence is at the heart of this.
What brought it home to me that Wancock is untouchable was the other ‘whopping big lie’ he told for all to see about the death of “my step grandfather from covid”. Let’s face it no one would get such detail wrong by accident, especially when you’ve spent time preparing your speaking notes. .
To really rub it in, when Piers Morgan sympathised with him over the death of his ‘step grandfather’ the very next morning, he (Wancock) effectively had the audacity to self-righteously correct the perception of his relationship with the deceased, clarifying that he was his step-sister’s father. It was as if he himself had completely forgotten his categorical lie only the previous day.
But what did the press do about it? Some e.g. the Daily Mail analysed the true relationship but not one of them took him to task about it, nor did anyone else. Imagine the outcry if it had been Jeremy Corbyn lying about something like that..
So the Royal family have been caught breaking the Covid rules – I’m so surprised. Perhaps Prince World Economic Forum Charles knows it’s all bollocks
Really all it shows is how ridiculous and impossible the rules are to follow, because they’re inhuman.
I repeat myself often in the Daily Mail comment section whenever one of these stories appears – Prominent people have info that the public doesn’t get. They know that the real risk of covid is lower than we’ve been told. How else could you explain the way they keep “putting their families at risk” except that there is little real risk?
Of course they do. Ferguson urging lockdown while breaking his own rules to get some rumpy pumpy. We should examine not what they say but what they do.
You don’t need to be a prominent person to know that it’s all bollocks.
He’s not the only one.
It strengthens my resolve ricochet the he’ll I want in my tier 4 gulag..
Sorry, predictive text took over! ….my resolve to do what the hell I want…
As, no doubt, will ALL the MPs sent off for their comfortable and secure, well-paid Christmas holiday. I still say anyone who lives near an MP should do picket duty to see if any rules are being broken. They’re very keen on having the rest of us snitched on by our neighbours. Let’s see how THEY like it.
Nothing sells newspapers like rule-makers being caught rule-breaking
Was it six people plus servants? Oooops.
I’ve seen a few posts about costco and masks etc – apologies if this is already posted but i saw this on a fb page about the Costco shareholders
Interested our pals Billy & Melly Gates are on the list (assuming the source wasn’t edited to add them and i’m sure a few of the more inquisitive here can verify this)
Billy & Melly Gates, there everywhere, such generous people
They seem to own 1.39%, it is publicly listed.
It seems Costco has now implemented a ‘masks or visor’ for all, including those with an exemption. Received an email this afternoon about being denied entry without. Worrying development.
need to be boycotted
They need to be sued for discrimination and inciting hate.
Dam right.
Burned to ashes would be better but baby steps….
Is that actually legal?
Nope
If you guys / girls search around 3pm I posted their contact email address and a draft email for anyone to send to the fucking idiots in charge. Please do email them and please don’t stand for this shit.
Will do.
It’s a dubious place anyway. What kind of shop requires you to be a member and puts restrictions on who can join?
Always reminded me of the idea of having a shop restricted to communist “party” members. No kulaks allowed!
I’m not surprised. Costco here in Canada has been one of the most heavy-handed companies and under no circumstances let anyone in without a mask. They will call the police. Haven’t had a membership for years and never will again. I won’t forget.
I would just like to thank Hancock & BJ for leading the world in the first nation to become a leper colony in the 21st century. Halfwits
Right from the beginning they seem to have been determined to sell us as the ”plague pit of Europe”. Listening to Sky News Oz they’ve succeeded.
I write to many friends in many parts of the world, and I always point out that our mortality figures are ”average” and hospitals are NOT ”overwhelmed” (except perhaps the small ”covid wards”) They always seem surprised.
I find it hard to believe how badly served we have been by this bunch of arrogant, self-serving nobodies, right from the beginning, as soon as they smelt the heady whiff of power.
I couldn’t agree more, first rate wankers, the lot of them
Standing in the pouring rain outside waitrose yesterday (I know, I know).
An old lady in front of me in the queue was getting soaking wet all because they refuse to let in more than 2 people, to protect against Covid by giving customers pneumonia.
A woke looking, masked up young couple in front did nothing but I couldn’t so offered her my coat.
She said no thanks because it’s not allowed, which is fine, but what shocked me was the way that everyone now accepts this kind of thing as the norm, whilst proudly sporting a muzzle “for others”. What have we come to?
They purchased their designer masks to save her life don’t you know?
Someone lent my mum a swimming costume just before the LD2!! I was very shocked that this level of rationality still existed around here.
I’ve even touched other people’s mobile phones!!
You’re SO brave!
You could of been killed by that wreckless selfish action !!
It must have been raining particularly hard in the Waitrose queue that day.
we’ve got seas full of fish – we wont starve, apparently fish is good for you, who knew….
The Chinese I deliver for get their chicken from Brazil as do many of the fast food outlets that feed the ‘cant be arsed’ and there is always the food bank for the 7th day when the takeaway money runs out.
a shortage of foie gras wont effect these good Type 2 peeps
I heard, that after extensive legal investigations, it was found that Donald Trump won the election
Perhaps the United States needs to invite officials from North Korea, Venezuela and Cuba to oversee American elections, to make sure they’re run freely and fairly
no need, the MSM has that covered
Perhaps the UN could organise another war for democracy?
Of course Trump won the Presidential election… Biden was campaigning for the US Senate
https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/idOVC249M8V
From the U.S., but no different here:
“Why does the left stick with shutdowns when it’s clear that they destroy small business? Simple. That’s the signature of communists consolidating their power.
When the Bolsheviks took over in 1917 Russia, they went around killing off anyone who questioned them in the slightest way. The peasants rebelled, ushering in the period of War Communism. The Red Army took all the grain and foodstuffs from the peasantry so there wasn’t even anything to plant for the following year. Famine ensued.
A few years on, Lenin, seeing that something had to be done, declared his NEP (New Economic Policy), which allowed limited capitalism. The economy roared back, led by the so-called kulaks, the ablest peasants who knew how to run farms successfully and who prospered when turned loose. Stalin would consider them traitors to the revolution for not giving it their literal all. His revenge would be savage.
In 1929, Stalin went after the kulaks in his first five-year plan. He instituted a policy of dekulakization to get rid of these people, who had provided not only food, but also jobs for millions. Stalin collectivized them out of existence. The kulaks themselves would be shot, either in the countryside where they lived or following show trials to make the point publicly that collectivization was not optional.
Private ownership disappeared. Equipment now belonged to the collective. Nobody took care of anything because, in the nature of commonly owned anything, it wasn’t his. Shiny new tractors and combines and threshing machines broke down from lack of maintenance. Predictably, the economy stalled, and the country starved. Millions died.
Fast-forward to today. Small businesspeople are America’s kulaks, the independent men and women with ideas of their own and the energy and determination to make something out of nothing — so long as the government, by force, doesn’t stop them. That is precisely what the shutdowns are all about. It isn’t that governors don’t see what’s happening; on the contrary, too many of them (think Whitmer; think Newsom) see exactly what’s happening and are chuckling.
Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I believe we can expect everything that happened in Russia almost exactly a century ago to be repeated here with minor deviations to take into account the different conditions. Democrat governors are engaged in the dekulakization of American small business. The consequences haven’t yet exploded onto the national consciousness, but everything that happened there will happen here.
Expect it, and prepare for it.”
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/12/covid_lockdowns_are_the_communists_getting_rid_of_the_productive_peasants.html
Hence the reason why such systems of governance are called totalitarian. All dissidents must be purged from society. Only total compliance with the regime is acceptable.
People have got more to lose now, once they realise what is going on
When you ain’t got nothin, you got nothin to lose!
Anyone pulled by the pigs should inform them they are off to Barnard Castle to test their eyes and, they will see them in court, in 2035.
take your ticket and wait for the CPS to tell you what crime you have committed – good luck with that one….
Sort of. You have to decline the ticket if you’d rather take the option of court summons. Which obviously everything should do.
I think you can accept the ticket from the plod, then request a court hearing as your response to the ticket.
Imagine torpedoing the most important trade deal in a generation. What complete sausages we have in charge.
I have no idea what is going on with Brexit. The most likely outcome to me seems like an indefinite extension of the negotiations until it becomes irrelevant as the UK is subsumed within whatever international order emerges after Covid. I predict that the UK will be broken up into regions (initially England/Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland but with further subdivision to come). Nation states in their current form are likely to be dissolved.
I’ve got little interest in the leave/remain debate but as a sceptic, it is clear to me that the government are applying the “because Covid” caveat to their negotiations. Both ‘crises’ are providing a fig leaf for the other.
One or the other needs boxing off pronto and Brexit seems most likely to happen.
The UK will become part of Oceania.
Don’t you think it was probably deliberate?
I think it was an unintended consequence of our health minister going on breakfast TV pretending to emote and blabbing the words “out of control”. Nothing more. Other nations have (naturally) capitalised on this. I struggle to give this government credit for anything at the moment and think a bunch of monkeys pulling levers would at least get things 50% right. Maybe I’m too cynical.
No, I agree. The blame for this horlicks lies at Hancock’s door but I don’t imagine for one moment that he will apologise. Accepting responsibility for his actions isn’t his style. He’s too eager to point the finger of blame at others.
Also, he is “in the zone” at the moment. Like a killer on a rampage getting away with it time and again. His fake emoting on TV will be played back in years to come and commentators will point out his body language and say ‘how did nobody know?’. Well we know.
Yes, I can’t believe people actually fall for his crocodile tears. I just find it embarrassing.
Wancock tiers
He looked like he was laughing not crying.The man is evil.He looks like the weedy kid at school who now has the protection of the bully
dePiffle and Poppycock did present a very tempting set of arses, so no wonder they got kicked.
This is growing suspiciously slowly. I wonder why.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564421
Maybe because nobody flags it up with a description, so people assume they’ve already signed it?
Right-o. I’ll amend it.
It is over 10,000 now and so the Government must respond.
Now at 10,510.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/dec/22/a-new-supporter-every-two-minutes-how-readers-powered-our-journalism-in-2020
cui bono? clearly the media does, and there’s no incentive for them to stop the daily scare tactics if it brings in the money.
Well fellow sceptics, as the Christmas period is now here I’m going to take a break from posting and disconnect from the increasingly stressful covid news for a little while to enjoy the illegal festivities with my family.
Merry Christmas to you all on here. I hope you manage to have a good one whether your plans have been scuppered or whether you’re going ahead with them anyway.
I sincerely hope that this website is redundant by next Christmas!
Have a great time, with lots of illegal hugs.
Thanks! You too.
I hope so too LL. Hope you enjoy your Christmas.
The same to you!
Thanks.
A very Merry Christmas to you, enjoy the break.
The commenters on here have become a de facto family of sorts this year. There is far more understanding of my world view here than amongst any of my family, friends, acquaintances or colleagues.
Absolutely.
Who could have envisaged such a genuinely diverse bunch of people in terms of age, sex, political leaning, occupation etc coming together over such a strange series of events? I didn’t see it coming.
Posters have their differences on here but one thing unites us all and that is our desire for freedom and the truth.
Man, that sounds cliched, but it’s true, the people who frequent this website have become a second family!
Indeed. Thanks to all of you for helping to keep me sane during this shitshow! Let’s hope for a better 2021. Keep on striving for freedom and the truth, as you have said. I think more and more people will wake up, though it won’t be pleasant or easy.
Enjoy the respite and please break as many Covid laws as possible. Merry Christmas and I echo your desire for this site to be unnecessary by next year, though I would miss you all!
Happy Christmas to you and your family and friends! Have a lovely break and enjoy! Will look forward to your posts upon your return
Have a great time and eat, drink and be very, very merry! Get the mistletoe out and snog everyone!
Money in the US stimulus bill for the Gates Foundation? He doesn’t need any money.
He does if he’s going to keep on topping up Rishi’s magic money piggy bank.
Millions for ‘gender programmes’ in Pakistan. And don’t forget another $450+ million for the Ukraine.
We know what ferguson looks like, who knows where he lives?
Gona watch his front door to see who comes and goes? Perhaps his neighbours are curtain-twitchers/dobbers!
A short list of names in no particular order:
Professor Dickhead
Wanksock
Pfeffel
Witless
I do not believe for even a split second that all of these have stuck to the rules 100% in the last 9 months. I know the Prof got caught with a minor indiscretion but I refuse to accept the others have played the game this whole time. I also refuse to accept that the British press don’t have proof and aren’t protecting these individuals.
If I understand correctly witless is not married and no kids. Looks like he has no mates. Maybe that’s why he wants us all to be miserable
Actually I think Witty will have stuck 100% to the rules,
Yeah, he probably will have. Hence why he looks like death warmed up.
Don’t let Unbalanced off the hook!
How could I forget!
I was thinking more along the lines of brick his windows but you could play it civil. Maybe I’m being too northern. Then again if you catch another married woman in his house the husband might come down the job for us
I understood you. Maybe the protest marches could pass by some home addresses?
Yes, that’s what I was thinking…
That German lass with the impressive embonpoint.
Not for those who don’t like swearing. BJ’s theme tune. Quite enjoyable actually. https://youtu.be/gKOo8rd6T7s
Fingers crossed this is xmas number 1. Sitting at 2 on iTunes last I checked.
next year’s Ivor Novello award winner .
This is priceless! I hope it wins.
Best 79p I ever spent.
Why was I charged 99p ? Grrrr, mutter mutter ….
Are OANN now the only hold-outs for Trump?
https://www.newsmax.com/us/smartmatic-dominion-voting-systems-software-election/2020/12/19/id/1002355/
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/12/fox-and-newsmax-fact-check-those-election-conspiracies-you-mightve-seen-on-fox-and-newsmax
It seems Banon is now back on board, maybe to get a pardon?
No the Trump support is huge and increasing as the fraud becomes more obvious.
Yes, Trump’s support is huge but where is the ‘obvious’ fraud?
https://bannonswarroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/The-Immaculate-Deception-12.15.20-1.pdf
Fraud is obvious and pretty much undisputed by any remotely honest observers, surely? The issues are over how much and whether there’s any future in pursuing it
In general fraud is best headed off at the pass. This definitely happened in Florida whose astute governor insisted that all mail in votes were in and largely counted before polling date. Compare and contrast the shambles in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Georgia. Biden may well have won all three fair and square but the nature of the count will inevitably leave many Trump supporters believing they were robbed.
Seek and you will find
Provide links please
Election Fraud Overview.
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/election-fraud-overview-msm-covid-hypocrisy-s
With links.
Also:
https://hereistheevidence.com/
Still waiting………
All mouth then
“How do you keep an idiot in suspense ?”.
I have just noticed that Yoo Toob has removed the New Culture Forum’s video about the Great Reset. I wonder why.
Peter Whittle (founder of New Culture Forum) will certainly be on the radar as he is in the London Assembly and has openly challenged Sadiq Can’t on various occasions. (BTW I have met Mr Whittle socially and he seems to me an extremely sound and decent gentleman).
Even Breitbart, so far, are sitting on the fence….
https://www.breitbart.com/news/fox-newsmax-shoot-down-their-own-aired-claims-on-election/
Dr Simon Clarke was on Talk Radio. He was asked about Ferguson’s prediction of 1/2 million dead. He said it was 1/2 million it was only 250,000 and the Telegraph had issued a correction. Well that’s ok then 1/4 ,million is pretty close to 60,000 when you don’t want to scare the living daylights out of everyone!!
It is complete quackery. Out by a factor of ten. Applied the other way, this wouldn’t even be a thing. I don’t know how they get away with it, and then to go a step further and start reorganising society including personal relationships on the back of such modelling – it is immoral.
This is crude bit of analysis.
The 7 day average mortality figure last peaked on the 21st November at 487.
It looks to be climbing back to what it was.
The reported number of deaths between the 21st Nov. and the 22nd Dec. is 13,681
If there was no November lock down and the 487 figure had remained constant the total over the same period would have been 15,097.
15,097 – 13,681 = 1,461.
Is this a fair way to measure the number of lives the last lockdown saved?
If it is, clearly, the government could have saved more lives at a lower financial cost without the damage caused by a lockdown?
“We are in the hands of idiots….It’s seldom been better demonstrated….They’re not fit to run a parish council. They never have been. They haven’t got the intellectual responsibility or the imagination or the wisdom or the knowledge or the education, and they are useless beyond belief.. but we currently have no way of getting rid of them lawfully.”
Peter Hitchens pronounces judgement on the current government
Plus a fulsome apology on the coronapanic by interviewer Darren Grimes:
“On coronavirus I owe you a massive apology, because during that first lockdown, when you were sort of beating the drum …. I thought “Hitchens is crackers here”, “Hitchens is way off the mark”, but you were absolutely right on everything that you said.”
Peter Hitchens: “The Silent Majority NEVER Existed!”
A lot of wisdom here, not least the importance of being able to disagree.
Overall, an intelligent and informed discussion of culture, politics and reality, from an experienced, astute and well informed observer of our society for over half a century. Albeit he’s looking a bit under the weather, tbh. If he’s got a seasonal bug, someone needs to get hold of him and forbid him from popping his clogs for at least the next few months – imagine the rejoicing amongst the forces of darkness if Hitchens were to die now and it were to turn out that he has this latest coronavirus in his system!
Seriously, best wishes to him if he is unwell. He’s put in a sterling shift over the past nine months.
Peter Hitchens is more likely to die or suffer brain damage falling off his bike as his views on cycling helmets are the same as on face masks.
Because he doesn’t wear a helmet he is more likely to be careful.
Safetyism is one of the many ways in which our society has gone down the wrong road.
What about other road users behaviour? A pissed/drugged up teenager or elderly driver who won’t admit they are no longer safe driving, pulling out in front of Mr Hitchens and throwing him over the top of their car into a heap in the gutter?
He will pay more careful attention to their behaviour than if he were wearing a helmet.
In free societies, self-regulation as much as possible is always the best route to go.
There are fewer accidents at roundabouts than at junctions controlled by traffic-lights precisely because self-regulation forces traffic participants to engage more actively and consciously with the situation on the road, than when they abdicate their judgement to the machine.
This is in regard to all vehicles.
Hasn’t it been shown that when traffic lights fail there are fewer accidents?
Yes.
When they fail, drivers are forced to drive more consciously.
The whole Covid situation is really the bicycle helmet debate writ large. If you can understand statistics and realise that everything in life involves risk, you probably don’t wear one. If you are statistically illiterate, emotionally suggestive and unable to confront your own mortality, you probably do.
Point well made.
Covid, when it comes down to it, is about every situation in life being governed by ‘traffic-lights’.
Hence, one-way systems in shops,
Tell us about the Isles Report.
A helmet would do fuck all to help most in that scenario.
Exactly. Safetyism is evil. It’s related to the infantilisation of the last generation, which I think has caused many of our current problems. People need to grow up!
Good for him. As a former regular road cyclist I wouldn’t dream of wearing one.
The minuscule risk reduction (if indeed it outweighs the known risk compensation effects by both cyclist and drivers) is absolutely not worth the unpleasantness. The point being, of course, that that’s a choice that any free adult should make for himself, not have the nanny state impose a choice upon him.
Indeed – the worst thing you can do on a bike is have a subconscious belief you are safe. Reduces your caution and the caution of other road users. The statistics suggest helmets cause more deaths than they save.
Your point brings to mind a Heinlein (iirc) sf story I read in my youth wherein youths were sent to remote places for survival tests and were allowed to take whatever equipment they could carry with them. There were all kinds of guns, lasers, powered armours and fancy equipments etc in use, but our hero’s expert advised him to take – a knife.
Heinlein’s point being that the powerful weapons just make for overconfidence. Mind you, Heinlein was in the Navy during his war service, and I don’t know if his personal experience of combat extended beyond brawling in port and with fellow navy recruits…
At least, that’s how I remember the story. It’s stuck in my head for nearly half a century.
One suspects Heinlein’s ship had the usual 20 inch cannons mind.
Well it was the US Navy. They aren’t renowned for being concerned about being over-equipped…
Years ago I found a website that opposed mandatory cycle helmet laws, with a small mountain of evidence against their use. Interesting to note that among countries (not regions/cities), only Australia and New Zealand (unless laws have changed recently) require their use by adults. Both are nanny states on steroids and Australia is probably the most authoritarian country in the Western world. Lefty parties in Europe (including many Greens) are against helmet laws because they fear people would be less likely to cycle, which is the case Down Under.
Statistically speaking (I dont’ have the source but it was HMG from about ten years ago) one is more likely to die from a head injury while driving than while cycling. So, logically, all drivers ought to wear ‘driving helmets’.
Exactly. I read somewhere that drivers are more likely to speed up around cyclists with helmets on or get closer to them, and that streets with traffic-calming measures (pedestrian-friendly streets) are better for cyclists as well, so helmets are not helpful.
There was an experiment whereby a man went cycling on his own and with a child seat occupied with a girl doll (without a helmet). He found that motorists passed much more closely to him when he was on his own.
That said, the best precaution, IMO that cyclists can take is to look behind frequently and not undertake a left turning vehicle.
I’d go for the fuckers signalling on occasion.
(I cycle too …).
If by fuckers you mean cyclists, then yes. Most of them are their own worst enemy. My favourite example is a woman cyclist in front of me in London who attempted to undertake a dustcart turning left.
She managed to get her coat caught in the mechanism that lifts the bins into the crusher, while the cart was turning left.
I started shouting and screaming but she managed to free her coat and carry on.
Needless to say, she was wearing a plastic hat, so perhaps felt invincible.
I’d understood that cycling helmets are only of any use if you’re cycling in woodland where they stop your head being scratched.
Cycling helmets are tested according to Snell Ratings, which, IIRC, is to protect against injury at up to a speed of 12 mph and an impact distance of three feet. That basically means a kid tumbling off his bike while cycling in the park. For a road cyclist, at best they will protect against surface abrasions of the scalp.
My brother in Australia put cable ties on his with the ends projecting upwards to protect against dive bomb attacks by the local magpies (larger and much more dangerous, like most Australian wildlife). Effective, so chalk one up for cycle helmets.
Peter Hitchens has been a towering oillar of scepticism this year.
We can’t have too many oillars …
You just have to invest 99p on the Christmas classic ‘Boris Johnson is a f*ck1ng c*nt’. If you can’t protest on the streets, protest online.
Buy it at Amazon or lots of other crap online outlets.
Thanks for the tip, just bought it on Amazon. The odd thing is, when I click on ‘play’ it doesn’t play it but rather lots of different 70s punk songs from the Clash, Cockney Rebel etc. I’m not sure if I’m doing something wrong or if there’s some deliberate misleading going on.
Worked for me. I downloaded it to my laptop, then played the mp3.
I really don’t think that LockdownSceptics should ignore the fact that Ferguson and Horby (both of whom ought to have been on the scrap heap) are funded by Gates and GAVI and that Johnson is up to his ears with them.
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/prime-ministers-speech-to-un-general-assembly-26-september-2020
Rona at the South Pole
https://twitter.com/AntarcticReport/status/1341322201849425921?s=20
Here it comes…
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9080251/MORE-parts-England-plunged-Tier-4-early-Boxing-Day.html
Are people stupid enough to be still getting tested?!
Just going to start pasting the same comment because CLEARLY any else is just a waste of time… DO ENJOY!
At this point reality is very SIMPLE: It’s either KILL or be culled.
Until several Jedburgh’s actions aren’t executed nothing will change except the things the SRF & Billionaires via jesters want to CHANGE!
Has this already been discussed I wonder.
Paraphrasing slightly, but Justin Welby says there is no need to go to church. After all we have TV these days, and if you are lonely you can always ring someone can’t you? It is far far far too dangerous to go and meet other people, be a normal human being, and do what Christians have been doing for centuries. Why do we need churches anyway? Let’s close them all down give all the proceeds to BLM. We can always watch Songs of Praise on a Sunday and watch Alex Jones.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/dec/20/no-need-to-go-to-church-on-christmas-day-says-justin-welby
The CofE has behaved like The Ministry of Virtue. Justin Welby could be standing next to Johnson at one of those press conferences.
I used to have a fair amount of time for him but no longer. Give me CS Lewis every time.
This is one aspect of recent events I find disturbing. Christianity is supposed to be about ‘the word made flesh’, ie, that God is not some sky fairy but something that dwells inherently in all of us. ‘What if God was one of us/Just a stranger on the bus’ as the song goes. Yet the church seems happy to push people apart by making people wear masks, keep their distance etc, essentially making us fearful of one another.
I agree. It’s been a shock for me this year to see how willing the Church was to comply, saying ‘yes of course we must close’. Does the Church really believe in what it says it believes? Or is it simply a reflection of the secular culture, what what values it happens to find appealing.
I think the church’s attitude is that ‘keeping people safe’ is akin to our Lord healing people. I think most have not yet realised that the government’s rulings sound the death knell for the church as an institution.
The performance of the of E as an organisation in providing spiritual comfort to its believers during this tough time has been lamentable. I am sure that some individual priests have delivered valuable support to their parishioners but the bishops are less than impressive
as for Welby, he said that he wanted a sabbatical, well in that case in the name of god just go
any experiences from devout readers?
According to my choirmaster, with whom I have kept in touch during the socially distanced year, there has been quite a split in the church about the response to the Covids. There was, IIRC, a splinter group of clergy who wanted to defy government rules on church restrictions, citing Magna Carta I think, but of course they got stamped on.
I represented this to a clergyman who complained that I was not wearing a face-nappy in church. I mentioned to him:
I said to my vicar on Sunday that the attitude of the established church (the other denominations are no better or different) was worse than pathetic. And as for Welby skiving off for a sabbatical… disgusting. Christ’s words to the church at Laodicea come to mind here.
It breaks my heart. I feel bitterly angry about all this.
Well done for standing your ground. I personally do not wish to attend public worship if masking and social distancing is compulsory. I take comfort in the fact that Christianity is not solely disseminated via the church, but in the hearts of believers down the ages.
Most of my fellow believers are highly compliant. Lots of healthcare workers among them which may have an effect. This worries me slightly as there comes a point where you have to assess the way you are being governed, and accept your government as an enemy of God to be resisted, not a servant to be obeyed. Think Germany in the 1930s for example.
It’s mostly been compliant, without questioning anything. Broadly, the belief is that the government would only want to do what is best for us. They are the ones in authority and we should do what they tell us. The NHS has been run off its feet, working its fingers to the bone, to keep the whole country safe.
It’s all about being respectable citizens, without really thinking about the wider effects and the unspeakable harm that has been needlessly inflicted on so many.
“It’s all about being respectable citizens, without really thinking about the wider effects and the unspeakable harm that has been needlessly inflicted on so many.”
Perish the thought that churchmen might actually have something more important to do than to be respectable, and to slightly increase the chances of elderly people living slightly longer, at any cost.
After all, that would, first, require actual belief and, second, risk being reviled by their peers for failing to signal their virtues hard enough. And they seem to have forgotten what the Bible had to say about being reviled….
In which case there’s no need for CofE and Justin Welby either
He sounds like a right prick.
That’s the word I was looking for!
I have nothing but contempt for Welby and his entire bench of bishops; a merciful sentence would be to demote them all to the level of a trainee curate for seven years. See Daniel chapter 5.
That is a merciful sentence. Less merciful ones are:
I am sure other people can think of other punishments.
Solitary confinement, with just one Zoom meeting with one another, and that meeting goes on for ever.
Depression and anxiety in almost every family member. Tears on the phone. Arguments. Friends suicidal and taking antidepressants for the first time in their lives
There is a epidemic of depression and anxiety in the UK in direct response to SAGE’s psychological terrorism
Every member of SAGE and every architect of lockdown cruelty needs to stand trial for crimes against humanity
Yes, the tsunami of mental health disorders is only just beginning. With at least four more months of Tier 4 (and higher) lockdown ahead of us, our descent is going to be at freefall speed.
Invest now in a company called Compass Pathways. They are leading the hunt to be the first company to treat depression with psylocybin (active ingredient in magic mushrooms). As I understand it, they are the only ones with the license thus far. As you say, there is a mental health pandemic going on out there that far outstrips the ravages of Covid.
Ending lockdown and all restrictions and returning to the old normal with an open NHS and healthy economy is the answer
People were depressed before this. Trust me on this one, those shares are going to soar.
Ah, we can dream.
Where I grew up, we called them ‘shrooms’ and while I never sampled them, a friend did and said it was not a very nice ‘trip’. No thanks.
It’s the active ingredient, not the shroom but as I’ve had to explain this (again), I would say keep your cash and avoid Nigerian princes wherever possible.
They are OK. Been there done that. Cause terrible indigestion though.
Great news, thanks Tom.
Edit : Although, of course, one doesn’t need a licence to walk in the fields.
With all this going on you’re asking us to invest in big pharma!?
Deal with the cause, not the symptoms!
Big pharma ? Not too sure about that, as I can’t see effective safe drugs like psylocybin making them much dosh.
Basically micro dosing which people have been doing for centuries
I have struggled a lot, I am thankful for all your support throughout this.
I think a lot of us feel powerless in all this. If we can help each other on here a bit (and we have had people on here feeling suicidal) then at least we are doing some good, even if it doesn’t always feel like it.
Yes, I have often felt that way.
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My other half had to go to the doctors because she was feeling depressed, crying a lot, etc. GP wanted her to go on antidepressants. She asked for a second opinion, and got told she had dangerously low vitamin D levels in her blood. Started taking supplements and felt right as rain soon after. Make of that what you will.
Agree that natural and social remedies are preferable however (back on topic), prescription medications are going to sky rocket. If they aren’t already.
Another big money spinner for Big pharma. These psychotropic drugs are highly addictive and dangerous. People need to find other coping mechanisms.
Which is why TB’s news about psylocybin is so encouraging. It being neither dangerous nor addictive.
And it’s spiritually emancipating.
DOING something is always therapeutic. Plenty of leafleting going on. Find a group near you,
eg. Telegram Protest Everywhere group.
If you want to pick up leaflets, flyers, posters, templates etc and quietly get into groups to put them around your areas, and if you have any things to put in there, this is the link:
https://t.me/ProtestFlyersLeafletsPosters.
I’ve found the following helpful to combat depression:
Quite apart from depression and suicide I can’t think of a better way of breeding monomaniacs and psychopaths.
Her I am in my middle 60’s and all the Chrimbo cards have arrived, no one missing, no one saying had a terrible time with the Covids….
I’m finding this website quite helpful. You can find out how many people have been admitted to hospital or died in your constituency (in my case it was 3 today, and 86 deaths since march). You can then bother your MP about it, asking if he/she thinks that turning the country in to a hysterical communist dictatorship is a proportionate response.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare
They’ve done nearly 3 million tests in the last week. No wonder “cases” are “soaring”!
Daily
423,675
Last 7 days
2,731,792
increase 328,527 (13.7%)
They still seem to be catching up on a huge splurge of tests taken last week ( friend is still waiting for a test taken last Saturday.) You wonder if the labs are under strain, thus extra mistakes. Positive percentages still below early November.
Zoe app is slowing down. They are desperate for a lockdown to stop the rise in positive tests before nature does the job.
How much is it slowing by?
Please do not take our saviour’s name in vain and, respectfully, go forth and multiply
End of your shift, Corporal?
I see that Will’s comment has disappeared?
You are still fucking stupid.
Why did you take it down in the 1st place?
I didn’t but you are still fucking stupid.
The abuse does adds nothing and says quite a lot about your intellectual breadth. Quite sad really. Grow up
Fuck me, you are even more fucking stupid than I thought.
nighty night sweetheart
XX
Fuck off. And remember you are culpable for all the thousands of premature deaths caused by the lockdown you advocate. I would fucking love five minutes in your company, I would just fucking love it.
Is that the best you can do? Come on then bitch…..
As I am in the 76th & 3 quarters Brigade, I shall be keeping a keen eye on you…..
Please don’t feed the troll!
They’re not listening to you are they
XX
No one is listening to you either stupid cunt.
You are
How many gov plants on here?
Not me – Putin pays my wages.
Don’t know
I really can’t see why they’d bother. I’m sure someone has a look every day but beyond that I don’t see how the site or we are sufficiently interesting.
I’m hoping most of them are like Alan Bennet. When he did his National Service as a radio translator in West Berlin, he apparently spent most of the time listening to American forces jazz stations instead of Soviet military transmissions.
….and quite right too.
Although I giess the Ruskies put out a bit of Tschaikovsky.
Hopefully the 1812 Overture might make a few globalists have second thoughts about world domination.
Doubtless a few watching. But they won’t comment as they will simply get torn apart, and they know they have no chance of influencing the debate here.
Certainly not ones you’d pick up on easily. On the MSM it’s about swaying opinion so it’s obvious. On here it’d probably be more about intel gathering, radicalisation (long game entrapment), disinformation. These things are much more subtle.
Probably you with a question like that. :-p
I was sent here to pick apart your narratives, but you’re all just so nice. So I quit. Now I post on here mostly and spend my time selling masks to idiots.
I only just fully read Dr Yeadon’s marvellous piece here:
https://dailysceptic.org/the-pcr-false-positive-pseudo-epidemic/
And I hadn’t realised how new labs had been created to detect the second wave which they had been created to deal with (yes – figure that one out!) …and it turns out that these new magic labs had rapidly attained the pristine conditions of a sewer into which the local teenage staff from Tesco’s were dragged in to spill their various bodily juices over the PCR tests.
Perhaps that guy who positively tested a Coke can was closer to the truth than he realised?
But then again, Nafeez Ahmed has conclusively proven that Dr Yeadon is a Tory funded neo-Nazi!
Isn’t he the former Islamist who supposedly saw the error of his ways? Intel operation.
think that might be Maajid Nawaz-he’s on our side btw
“Nafeez Ahmed has conclusively proven that Dr Yeadon is a Tory funded neo-Nazi!”
Don’t recall who Ahmed is, but seems not too bright if he thinks someone attacking the “Conservative” government’s policy is “Tory funded”…..
Ahmed was the first (as far as I’m aware) to release a book querying the official account of 9/11 (The War On Freedom). He seemed like a real down-and-funky investigative guy. Till I noted him poo-poohing “conspiracy theorists” (after uncovering what seemed to be unambiguously conspiratorial networks) And then I noticed he had some lovely connections to various military outfits. His site proudly announces:
In short, Nafeez is one of the big global movers and shakers. Let’s say he has a lot of investment in (pseudo) green futures.
Thank you for that.
He needs to crawl back under his rock. blokes is as big a twat as boris
dePiffle is a selfish opportunist. I think Bliar is much more sinister.
https://unredacted.co.uk/2020/12/22/sage-expert-warns-of-human-disaster-without-full-new-year-lockdown/
I thought you’d gone to bed!
??
Another shitty forecast from Whitty?
Shouldn’t we be about buried under the deluge of corpses from the first one by now…?
And are the hospital numbers even really going up this time? They’ve cried wolf at too many vaguely wolf-shaped poodles for me to bother looking up at their call any more
I’m really disgusted that all these folk who’ve died have have awful families. There seems no more obituaries than usual in the local press and the 2 local undertakers are not especially busy. So where are the bodies ? All in giant plague pits in the unused nightingale hospitals? We should be told.
Oh but it’s not a forecast! Nor even a prediction.. it’s just a scenario…
Is it a forecast? Is it a projection? No! It’s just a narrative…you know, like a Batman cartoon story.
Why does Whitty always look so guilty?
Because he knows what he’s doing.
Where do you get Stilton in Lisbon?
Random.. did I miss something?
No, completely off topic. Went into the Corte Ingles, trying to find stuff, like English Ale, Stilton etc. Nothing. There are tens of thousand English people here, but not much catering.
The level of desperation in the propaganda for everyone to take the vaccine is more than justification enough for me not to go anywhere near it.
Richard, this will interest you:
Hospital Workers Turn Down COVID Vaccine: “There’s Too Much Mistrust” | ZeroHedge
Interesting comment from a poster:
‘A virus so dangerous and deadly that even hospital workers are willing to take their chances with it over a vaccine. Trust me, if they thought this virus was hugely dangerous, they’d be flocking to it, the fact the vaccine is untested be damned’
Only a third of staff have signed up to take it.
Yes.
Don’t listen to what they say.
Watch what they do – or don’t do.
Thanks, a contributor on here who works in the NHS recently reported that 25 out of 30 of her team (including her obviously) refused it.
Perhaps many more people have been paying merely lip service to state and MSM propaganda throughout this year than we realise.
Yes. Up until now it was all words, or things wwith relatively limited consequences – like masks.
Suddenly. with vaccination, they are confronted by something with possible long term consequences.
Survival instinct kicks in.
I don’t think the effects of prolonged mask wearing are insignificant (particularly psychologically), but I know exactly what you mean. The vaccine is irreversible.
Point taken on mask-wearing – agree completely., but the people we are talking about don’t understand that.
Whereas vaccines, …even they..
Quite. I suspect there are as many lockdown zealots as there are anti-lockdown zealots (that’ll be us), with perhaps 60% of the rest ready to jump into either camp, depending on who’s winning.
makes me wonder if there is a Lockdown Zealots website out there-an exact reverse of this site
http://www.bbc.co.uk
We are not zealots. We are rational sceptics with an holistic understanding of health. The lockdown zealots are sheep who would follow Ferguson over a cliff if he told them to.
My sister in law and daughter in law are both scientists working for the NHS in a large regional hospital. Neither will be having the jab. They conclude that at 44 and 24 respectively the risk from Covid is considerably lower than the risk from an unproven vaccine. Also my daughter in law is hoping to start a family soon.
This is very encouraging news. The state is being backed into a corner here. The only way they can get a large majority of the population to take the vaccine is by outright coercion.
I have a feeling they’ll push it on the elderly, many of whom have no choice but to take it, and then declare that the vulnerable people are safe and then won’t be as desperate to push it on the rest. But perhaps I’m being too optimistic.
Common sense is breaking out everywhere!
A lot of hospital staff are of childbearing age. What did the PTB expect?!
Yes, especially when this was in the official Information for Healthcare Professionals document provided by the government:
Pregnancy
There are no or limited amount of data from the use of COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2. Animal reproductive toxicity studies have not been completed. COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is not recommended during pregnancy.
For women of childbearing age, pregnancy should be excluded before vaccination. In addition, women of childbearing age should be advised to avoid pregnancy for at least 2 months after their second dose.
Breast-feeding
It is unknown whether COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is excreted in human milk. A risk to the newborns/infants cannot be excluded. COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 should not be used during breast-feeding.
Fertility
It is unknown whether COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 has an impact on fertility.
For me, it’s less about the vaccine, bad enough though that is, than it’s about trust in those
pushingadvocating the bloody thing. Not for me either.Alex Belfield suggests that we will be in tier 4 from Saturday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVOnrhXeNvo&t=108s
Highly optimistic. More likely to be from Thursday this week (Thursday seems to be the favourite day for really bad news.)
Unmerry Christmas everyone?
They can ‘announce’ what they like. Until they have martial law and roadblocks, it isn’t going to stop me living as normal. And if any squaddies of the 77th are tuning in, here’s a tip from me from my old army days, put a bit of cardboard round the buttons on your number ones when polishing them. Stand easy!
I would love them to announce on 24th December (preferably as late as possible in the day) that everyone will be in Tier 4, coming into force at midnight on 25th December.
The Telegraph is being besieged by 77th Brigade.
Allison Pearson’s article.
Something is afoot!
Lockdown 3 announced Tomorrow or maybe Christmas eve immediate start
Ho ho ho
77th are often found partying in the comments. Usually proves the article contained some truth.
From Old McDonald Trump, DT:
There have been a few skirmishes here. Few blasts of sceptical machine gun fire and they ran for cover. I’m pretty sure they work in tag teams.
The 77th seem especially bad as compared to other outfits. They just seem to drop really bad ad hominems and then run for cover. They won’t even argue, just drive by schoolyard cliches. I suspect they may be outsourcing overseas.
Long story but husband took our young son to A & E at around 4pm today as GP advised it and would not see him. My wee boy seen almost straight away, x ray done,few checks and home at 6.30 with 1 minor med.
Obviously I’m relieved and also glad it wasn’t serious but hubby said he could believe how quiet the a & e dept was (he has been fair few times in the past as gets bad nose bleeds). 2 other people there waiting after him.
He said there was a line of ambulances beside the a & e dept sitting with staff inside all mostly on their phones seemingly bored.
What pandemic are we in again?
It should never be forgotten that every NHS employee happily going along with this IS also complicit.
Tiktok, tiktok.
I’ve been reliably inform that thousands of nurses are now reliant on food banks as they’re no longer working overtime.
Yeah – difficult to get dancing gigs these days as well.
That’s very true. They could come on here anonymously and tell the truth but they prefer to allow this Big Lie to be sustained, knowing, it seems – at least on the surface – in their interests to let it go unchallenged.
I do frequently, as do others, and we’re challenging from within and changing minds. I know it can be hard to keep up with all the comments but we are here!
Look – speaking as a Chemist, the PRC Test is basically a very (extremely) complicated chemistry test with sh*t loads of variables which means you will get the wrong result quite easily for many different reasons. I know because I spent two days a weeks for three years of my life doing complex Chemistry practicals at Uni. I never got at 20/20 mark in practicals and neither did anyone else. Perfection is almost impossible in a lab. 17/20 was a top 1st class degree mark. Results will get worse when you hire new inexperienced people to run the tests in backstreet labs. Results will get worse when time pressure is increased. Results will get worse when the governments of the world are paying top dollar for volume and not quality.
The wonderful Dr Clare Craig found a great paper here which destroys PCR.
https://twitter.com/ClareCraigPath/status/1341410425259352077
The chemical ingredients from the supplier can be messed up. This is obvious to any chemist. There are many more reasons why PCR is total sh&te at detecting live infections, especially now epidemic is over.
BTW – This Jon Deeks bloke who is an underachieving so called “Professor of Biostatistics” from Birmingham Uni should be avoided as he slags of more accurate lateral flow tests and never criticizes PCR. He is a paid for scientist. Like many. I wish there was some way to diminish his harmful influence.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/22/plans-for-30-minute-covid-lateral-flow-tests-in-england-halted-over-accuracy-fears
He is not a scientist – he is a mathematician – so unlike you, and me, he has never been in a laboratory doing experiments. Great post, by the way.
Top post there.
PCR has been purposely misused. Its the only reason I am left with. Like you say, it’s drawbacks have been well documented even before Covid. Someone posted on here in the last few days saying Dorsten and Chris Whitty were both involved in a PCR project funded by the EU back in 2009.
I haven’t found the post and a Google search throws up nothing. Duck Duck Go the same. I wonder if they are reading this they could repost the details.
I recall that nearly all our experiments at school disproved the laws of chemistry and physics.
here’s our new national anthem:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKOo8rd6T7s
play on endless repeat
Johnson a ‘c@*t’ ? who’d have thunk it. Always was and always will be
don’t reply to me you arse
Classy
Talk about following the herd…
Fuck off you stupid fucking cunt.
Are you still here you stupid cunt?
I’ve got some smelling salts for you or would rather some MDMA?
Fuck off you are stupid.
I refer you to my post on the other thread
Shouldn’t you be off sniffing little girls knickers you fucking freak. You are hanging around like a dirty old man in a fucking dogging spot you fucking cunt.
Here we go. Q follower?
Shouldn’t you be off smelling little girls’ knickers by this time of night? You are nothing but a sad, inadequate paedophile who sits, frustrated, in front of his computer screen and trolls people to attempt to provide some relevance to his sad, neck bearded life. Well trolls can be trolled you cunt.
Said like a true Q drop/crumb scavenging Incel
And why do you keep repeating yourself?
thank god for tony blair – if you’re ever in doubt about anything, findout what TB thinks then do the exact opposite. never fails.
Just found out I will have to endure relatives tomorrow. Going to be painful.
Keep reminding yourself it’s only temporary.
Do what they say to people who have stage freight.
Just imagine them as sth you can laugh about or belittle.
If it gets too bad go outside for some deep breaths. Screaming is allowed too, or punch something, throw plates.
All the best DRW.
Remember – we will all look back on this sometime from a better place, and we will probably have to endure those same relatives opining: “Oh I never believed in that covid stuff, knew it was nonsense from the start, didn’t we Jack”?
Looking forward to you reporting your ‘experiences’.
Let’s hope we do. I will report tomorrow.
Endure as long as you can and then flee. Good luck!
Protect your sanity with large amounts of alcohol. That will reduce the pain.
Alcohol is a depressant which removes inhibitions and leads people to speak their minds – not always a good thing.
Tell them you’re self isolating.
Cough.
My Mum, an ex Head of A&E and Theater, in her 70’s, swore for the first time I have ever seen today. She arrived here in Hampshire at 11.40am for Xmas, fresh from Cumbria. A good run on the motorway.
She was on the buzzer today trying to persuade a childhood friend living locally that is was safe for her to visit him, and that the death risk is overblown, and life is too short. Proportionality she said.
She won the debate easily and will thankfully see him tomorrow. But she swore when she explained she has these conversations every day. I have genuinely never seen her swear before. Good stuff.
Well done Mum!
Does anyone have any info at all on how this splendid vaccination programme is going? I type in “vaccination news” and get this:
Every one of these automatically presupposes that the entire world is just gagging for the vaccine.
Ah this title looks a bit more critical:
It’s on the Guardian which means I can only access the beginning. But it looks like more vaccine worship:
“NHS leaders have raised concerns about the rollout of the coronavirus vaccine, with more than half of hospital trusts and two-thirds of GPs yet to receive supplies amid growing alarm over the new fast-spreading variant. Dr Richard Vautrey, the chair of the British Medical Association’s GP committee, urged the government to speed up delivery of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in order to save lives. Experts also demanded greater transparency from ministers on how many doses are available.”
What fucking obvious crap with this hyperbole:
“amid growing alarm over the new fast-spreading variant.”
“in order to save lives.”
Tacky robotic newspeak sewage!
And once again I have an eerie feeling of being stuck in a totalitarian state with only one slant permitted – the glorious peasants marching in and lining up for that wondrous heavenly sacrament to be bestowed upon their veins.
How many are refusing the vaccine? How many are telling these PCR preachers to go fuck themselves?
I think in may ways the Bolshevik leadership in the Soviet Union asked its people to be far less credulous than our leadership ask us to be. It’s easier to believe Stalin or Molotov were wise leaders than that Johnson or Hancock are. If you were a peasant seeing your son or daughter go off to university, it was easy to believe that was progress. Here in contemporary UK you see children prevented from attending school and students prevented from attending university lectures. – not so easy to believe you are living in a world that is progressing to a brighter future. In the USSR they had world beating technology that enabled them to put the first satellite into space and the first man into orbit. In the UK we were promised by Johnson a world beating test and trace app but it turned out to be made of string and balsa wood and our test and trace system is an horrendously expensive dysfunctional failure.
Oh I wasn’t getting at the communist states. I was basing my observation on our stereotypical image of them. And isn’t it ironic that we are the ones who seem to be sliding towards that?
Review of the Christmas song available on iTunes “Boris Johnson is a ****ing ****”, by The K****.
This song succinctly hammers its point home by repeating itself over and over, using the same words again and again, so even the dimmest person can join in the chorus with ease. The line, repeated on a continuous loop, is “Boris Johnson is a ****ing ****.”
The word **** is used 112 times, as is the word ****.
Strong and stable then?!
LOL. we listened to it about an hour ago, and whilst the first half a dozen Fg Cs were funny it soon wore off.
I agree it’s neither funny nor musical, but the point is it expresses contempt for what is fast becoming a totalitarian regime. I’m happy to shell out 99p for that.
Bloody awful, but true. Hope it makes Christmas no 1.
I buy frozen raw food for my dog.
I forgot to postpone an order until after Christmas so was faced with the prospect of lots going off, as my freezer is, as usual, stuffed in the run up.
A friend in Oakham offered some space in hers, so I took some on Sunday afternoon and then took my dog for a walk in the town centre.
I was very surprised by how few shops had gone, by the pleasant atmosphere and by how few people were wearing masks outside: essentially the “we’re very affluent but also eccentrically stylish” twats.
My friend believes that people have chosen not to have a miserable experience in Leicester or Peterborough but instead to try and keep their town alive.
I think anyone’s experience of this whole shambles has been defined by whether they choose to follow the “rules” or not.
I feel incredibly blessed that all my friends around me know it is a load of horseshit and we have socialised, hugged, eaten and drunk as normal since March. Maybe we haven’t been able to do it in favourite pubs, bars and restaurants at times, but it has strengthened our bonds and that is something to be grateful for.
Friends out in the sticks have been very compliant and I have a feeling there are some I will never hear from again as I know I have been removed from WhatsApp groups, weekly zoom calls etc for being “irresponsible” and couldn’t care less.
It’s my life and I will live it as I please, any blowback is more than worthwhile.
Guys great work with the research but it’s all falling on death ears. Like it or not all governments will continue until 95% of the population has has poison forced into them with the other 5% incarcerated or killed dubbed a health threat. People will starve to death, already happening in countries reliant on tourism. We have weeks left before there is no going back. Once Biden is in office the next part of whatever evil plan will be set in motion. Trying to get any information out to the masses in impossible as all the mainstreams are under the control of these evil bastards. I now doubt even a single person is dying from this virus right now in Britain.
Time is running out…
Just found out today from people in the Philippines that there is a curfew until Jan and anybody found without a facemask will be shot dead. You couldn’t make this shit up!
The only thing we can do is setup a global network (Every country in the world) of revolutionaries and attack all mainstream media buildings, networks, communication nodes and Government. We need the fast and professionally. I haven’t got a fecking clue where to start…
I know the 77th are reading this, come on guys even you must have Children, family and friends, can you continue like this knowing your complicity in this will lead to blood on you hands.. Somebody there must have a pair of bulls between them!
I’m a Biden-Connectionist. In the worldwide war between Globalism and Populism, the Globalists see the removal of Trump as absolutelyabsolutely the top priority. You might wonder why the hell they chose such a poor candidate to take on Trump but as soon as you realise just how corruptly linked to China’s Communist regime Biden is, all becomes clear.
My view is that if Biden, thanks to the massive election fraud, is installed as President, then we will actually see a rapid “victory” over the virus. This is a powerful technique – the man who held your head under the water suddenly becomes your rescuer. We will be hearing a lot about “the Great Reset” in the first few weeks of 2020, so they may try and link this “success” in dealing with the virus with the global-corporative approach advocated by WEF, so as to pave the way for much more radical measures.
I was part of the way through a New Culture Forum talk on Youtube, about the Great Reset – when I went back to it, it had been removed, cancelled, scrubbed, whatever.
Reiner Fuellmich mentioned the barbarity in the Philippines in his video ‘Crimes Against Humanity’
The 77th are dumb squaddies with all humanity taken from them in their basic training.
Good news! God has sanctioned the vaccine:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55409693
Oh hang on! The issue isn’t about whether the vaccine is safe. It’s to do with whether development of the vaccine which involved using cell lines derived from aborted foetuses is “morally acceptable”. Once again, the Catholic Church demonstrate its higher concern for those unborn than those actually here.
I think the key point is this (quote from the article): “However, no foetal cells are present in any of the vaccines.”
I would find it morally repugnant if this was not the case.
Supposedly the RNA sequence came from foetal material. So it’s right, no cells. But……
the winner takes it all:-
https://twitter.com/pcrclaims/status/1341481874191998979/photo/1
Of all the destruction wrought on us by the government, the thing which has upset me most is the damage to personal relationships. I have lost respect for
numerous friends and a few family (as presumably they have for me) because of their sheep-like behaviour. Some I am struggling not to actively hate to the point I will not socialise with them ever again. My husband’s step dad has brow beaten my mother in law such that she is virtually paralysed by fear of covid. It’s so sad because her and my husband were always so close but now he can’t even bring himself to ring her because all we get is lectures on how we don’t care if old people die! People describe covid as a war and compare it to WW2 or the blitz but that is the wrong war. WW2 is the wrong metaphor. A better one would be the English Civil War where families turned on each other and communities were split asunder. Their Lord Protector also cancelled Christmas!
Well said. My other half has totally cut off contact with any Covid believers. I tend more to the idea of ‘Father forgive them for they know not what they do’ but it is difficult.
This is something I often think about.
I try to think of as many as I can of these people as victims, who are objectively in a worse position than we are. Not only are they victims of the social measures, as we all are, but they are victims also of the propaganda and the brainwashing, which we can see through.
I’m not talking here of those who browbeat others but of those who simply lack whatever it takes to see through the nonsense.
I try to think of them as children, and as worthy of compassion.
Doesn’t always work mind you
So true, I bet everyone on here has a similar story to tell. It has been the most perfect demonstration of divide and rule I have ever witnessed. Get the people to attack each other, rather than the real enemy who is killing us. Perfected by the Romans and still going strong 2,000 years later.
‘…all we get is lectures on how we don’t care if old people die!’
When someone uses that hackneyed trope I usually retort that *they* don’t care about all the neglected and forgotten elderly who have suffered alone and died *because of* the tyrannical restrictions forced on them by an out of control and fanatical government. Soon shuts them up.
I feel similarly. It’s caused so many family arguments (a bit like Brexit). I’ve been trying to understand it and I’ve decided that a huge part of it is about your personaliy and whether you:
look at facts (or go with feelings)
are in business or in the public sector (sometimes down to feelings also)
are a risk taker
are outgoing or insular
your political persuasion (again, often about being in the public sector)
your exposure to earning your keep/staying afloat/the commercial world i.e. your business acument or, wether, per the public sector, the money just keeps coming.
To my mind, this has morphed into a (broadly) public vs private sector argument because
the vast majority of public sector workers are cossetted and have no idea about really and properly earning a living or the real world i.e. if the customer isn’t happy, they go elsewhere and if it happens enough, you go bust.
That doesn’t happen for them AT ALL.
BUT they are simultaneously able to say that they’re more caring because they can cite the short-term/immediate facts of current deaths wherease longer term facts like those for cancer etc. are projections and, hey, they that’s another fight for them another day.
As a private sector conservative I was pleasantly surprised to find plenty of lefty public sector contributors here at LS.
My lot are all MSM spoonfed sheeples. Tomorrow going to be hard.
Try a bit of reverse psychology. Explain to them that you understand there is no place for you in the new social order that they are embracing and that this will be your last Xmas with them. Then walk away.
You can try any from the list of stuff that will ultimately impact on them:
· 25 million GP appointments lost (source: Care Quality Commission)
· 3 million people backlog for cancer screening (source: Cancer Research UK)
· 350,000 patients with suspected cancer haven’t been referred (source: Cancer Research UK)
· 986,000 women not screened for breast cancer (source: Breast Cancer Now)
· Referrals for urological cancers (incl prostate cancer) halved – an estimated 27,000 fewer sent for testing (source: Prostate Cancer UK)
· 1 million bowel cancer screening invitations not sent in first 3 months of lockdown, equating to estimated 1,350 cases of undiagnosed bowel cancer (source: Bowel Cancer UK.)
· 139,545 patients waiting > 1 year for treatment (source: NHS England)
· March- May >50,000 children in England had surgery from all surgical specialties postponed (source: Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health)
· MD and cataracts have gone untreated leaving patients at risk of sight loss
· Waiting lists in general for the NHS are at an all-time high
Sooner or later, everyone, will be impacted by these backlogs, whether its them, their husband, wife, mother, father, sister, brother, boyfriend, girlfriend, uncle, aunt, child or grandchild who needs treatment and joins the back of these queues.
Then there’s societal/other health problems:
· 1 in 9 mental health patients have been waiting 6 months for help (source: Royal College of Psychiatrists)
· Number of people drinking at ‘high risk levels’ doubled since February – now 8.5 million (source: Royal College of Psychiatrists)
· Just over 1 in 10 of over 70,000 surveyed had suicidal thoughts or thoughts of self-harm during the first week of lockdown (source: Samaritans)
· 7% increase in domestic abuse-related recorded crime during March to June vs the same period in 2019 and 18% increase vs 2018 (source: ONS)
· 72% of pub & hospitality businesses expect to become unviable and close in 2021 (source: British Beer & Pub Association, British Institute of Innkeeping and UK Hospitality)
· Redundancies to a record high of 314,000 in the three months to September 2020 (source: ONS)
· Since March 2020, the number of payroll employees has fallen by 782,000 (source: ONS)
· Borrowing hit £22.3bn in October 2020, the highest October figure since monthly records began (source: ONS)
· UK national debt at record high >£2 trillion for first time ever (source: ONS)
· Record number of shop closures: 6000 chain shop outlets closed in first half of 2020 compared with 3500 in same period 2019 (source: Local Data Company and PwC UK)
· Number of graduate jobs dropped 12% in 2020 with employers anticipating further decline in 2021 (source: Institute of Student Employers (ISE).
· Employers reduce internships and placements 29% and 25% respectively in 2020, the largest drop since 2010 (source: ISE)
· Charity sector faces £10bn funding shortfall and 60,000 job losses (source: FT)
· £160m loss of income this year for Cancer Research UK (source: Cancer Research UK)
Good luck!
Wonderful stuff, so powerful when you put it all together like this.
Fab. Thanks. Please use it far and wide. People are living in blissful ignorance thinking it’s just somethin that will impact on other people. How long will these backlogs take to get through before they’re on those lists!!!!
I shall indeed. Would have made for a great Xmas card insert (instead of those awful family updates saying how wonderful everything is).
But if it prolongs the life of one 90 year old + for three days it will be worth it!
Good stuff.
Emma Kenny also mentions the 9 (that we know of) students who were found dead in their dorms, within weeks of University re-start & locking down from Sept onwards… she has also mentioned dealing with families [that she knows, personally] who have lost young people, under the age of 18, to suicide too.
Amen to that. My mother for some reason thinks I’m now a eugenicist brainwashed into scepticism by my wife (the reality is my scepticism, fuelled initially by Hitchens, informed my wife’s scepticism). Be strong, my friend. Truth is with us. Lies are like maggots that have a habit of wriggling to the surface.
This geezer exposes the Covid fundamentalists in devastating fashion:
https://youtu.be/erAYITZRdJk
Here’s the petition link again. Now over 10,000.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/564421
”Recall Parliament now to scrutinise new Christmas coronavirus restrictionsMinisters must urgently request that the Speaker recall Parliament, due to the overwhelming public interest in MPs scrutinising, debating and voting on the Government’s new coronavirus restrictions that criminalise family contact over the Christmas period.”
Well done for your efforts in tirelessly promoting this.
Gee – thanks! I’ll stop now. I’m becoming a bore!
You carry on. I didn’t know of this petition till I read your post above. The more you promote something the better your chances of reaching people who may have missed it earlier. I’ve signed it now and it’s at 10,775.
The mutant virus is everywhere, they say; so we must lock down harder, they say.
Not waving, but drowning. Not mad, but evil.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/6442097/nicola-sturgeon-sorry-mask-covid-breach/
One rule for us…
So sick of this now. Funny how every person in the public eye just says they forgot. She made the rules but couldn’t remember them apparently.
Why should anyone else give a fuck?
Could be a tricky presidential briefing tomorrow for Nicola. I wonder what the excuse will be?
And this days after threatening to bring in laws that effectively make it illegal to leave your home.
Absolute scum.
somebody on here mentioned Wings over Scotland on here a few weeks back. I have been visiting their site and she is not popular even among the indie crowd.
I’ll have a look.
Her latest independence speech (in the middle of the biggest crisis in Scotland since WWII), seems to have lost the moderates within the SNP. Now isn’t the time, is the feeling I am getting from my Indy friends, and this latest debacle of putting the North of Scotland into Tier 4 (and maybe even the threatened Tier 5) has upset the highlanders and the fishing ports.
My area has anything between 0 and 15 ‘cases’ per day and we are being placed in a lockdown akin to March. People up here are seeing their economy collapse over a disease less prevalent than chicken pox. More people up here have scurvy than coronavirus FFS.
I have a Scottish friend who wants independence from Nicola Sturgeon
Exactly. A compendium of all the infractions of the rules by public figures this year would make a perfect Xmas present. Not a single one of them will be getting the vaccine either.
They’ll get a photo op “vaccine” but I’ll be my last dollar it won’t be the vaccine the plebes are getting.
Dr Marcus de Brun on Richie Allen today. Plus Hayden Hewitt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k29corrrL0
please make this the xmas number one song….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3mgapAcVdU
The Animals, 1966.
Report from the day’s festivities:
Went to see The Muppet Christmas Carol at the cinema earlier. Depressingly only a few groups of people there (even with the socially distanced seating arrangements). Of course the film was great but I was disheartened to go to the toilet to see the taps blocked off and the instruction to use hand sanitiser instead. I have an eczema outbreak on my hand so hand sanitiser is a huge no no from me – I used the taps and soap regardless of course.
Then I went to have tea at a Turkish restaurant. Delighted to see no NHS T&T QR codes as well as the main waiter having his mask below his mouth. A couple of other restaurant staff wore lanyards the whole time which was similarly great news.
Please remind me, is a cinema like a big netflix?
It’s a place people used to go on the outside. We aren’t supposed to go to the outside. It isn’t safe.
Dear moderators – please take action. There are a small number of very abusive and juvenile posters on here who are making this site a very unpleasant place to spend time on. Free speech – yes. Personal abuse – no.
Agreed, some of the insults are schoolyard banter and it’s getting out of hand.
Tough.
I’ve generally found this to be one of the most civilised online forums out there. I think this is why low quality contributions such as the ones you refer to are so conspicuous.
Incidentally a warm welcome to the new daily update author Conor Chaplin (I think today is his first entry).
Given that Toby Young is one of the leading advocates of free speech in the UK my guess is that censoring speech that “godowneasy” doesn’t like is not going to be on his list of priorities.
A strikingly odd juxtaposition:
“We really worry that you might become unhealthy through drinking sugary drinks…”
Yet the very same people are, in effect, saying:
“We don’t give a toss if you die of untreated cancer or suicidal despair or being trapped in a crummy flat 24 hours a day”.
Psychopaths.
Which is a bit like: “I would never go near GMO foods” but also “I can’t wait to get the GMO vaccine”.
A GMO ingredient was listed in the flu jab the school nurse wanted to administer to my 9 year old child last month. One of the reasons I declined the offer.
”We’ve cancelled your life saving cancer treatment – stay safe!”
A great result for lateral flow vs PCR. I see light at the end of the tunnel.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55418565
Phew.
Sure it’s not another train?
Probably…but PCR needs to die. This is another nail in the coffin. Have a good Xmas DRW by the way. I like your posts!
The train bringing the vaccine?!
Thus formalising testing to leave the country.
I trudge through this deluge of insanity every day like many people here. Increasingly, I am not surprised by most things but occasionally something throws me into overdrive. This is my example today from the BBC. I’m struggling to understand how this can have happened. How the hell did we get here? Watch the video if you can face it and convince me, if you can, that we haven’t landed on a suicidal alien planet.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-55414707
Appalling, which is why I have not visited the BBC website for months. Thanks for taking the pain on our behalf, it’s important to know what is being broadcast by the Beast.
I hope the giant asteroid gets here soon.
The arresting thing for me about such items is that they proceed in what seems to me to be perfect good faith. The people who made this film, and who appear in it, really do believe that we are facing a public health crisis of existential proportions. If you really do believe that, virtually everything that drives us (here) crazy follows quite naturally for all but the most robust libertarians (of which I don’t think there are very many in this country). If the choice is piles of corpses – as a friend put it to me, again in good faith, this evening, ‘the eradication of a whole generation’ – OR singing in a mask, almost any conservative/liberal/progressive would choose singing in a mask.
Soros has been on the blower. “OK George, I’ll see what I can do…”
I want to put something out there that. I’m sorry but I actually think now, after 9 months of this shit that, even it this isn’t the one that means we’re captured, China will learn and release another virus. Their mistake this time was not having a vaccine already in place.
What do you think?
What is your thesis?
Has a virus been isolated?
How serious was the virus – if isolated?
Are you saying that this was an attack?
Where’s the evidence for that`?
It’s not evidence based but based on cynacism about China. They want (and don’t deny) world domination: look at Belt and Road, what’s hapened in Africa and now Itay and Europe – all being bought up. Also, Bejing-Biden.
Meantime, supposedly, life in China is back to normal whilst the Western World is in meltdown and our economies trashed.
As you imply, China was ‘winning the peace’.
If you are ‘winning the peace’, why change the strategy?
Makes no sense.
Since China was inevitably, on the trends pre-covid, going on to assume a hegemonic position, why change that?
In fact, it would make more sense for those who wish to derail China’s rise to put a spanner in the works.
It’s very slow and expensive. There’s a really good book by Niall Fergussaon (the historian, not the bad guy). China’s debt is huge because of all of the commitments they’ve made worldwide, including at home where they’ve built cities that have no inhabitants but are a “showcase” of their supremacy to the world.
BTW – I’m throwing it out there as a hyposthsis because we here like to try to rationalise what the hell is going on.
China’s debt is balanced by its assets, the productive capacity which it has financed with that debt – factories, infrastructure, the skills and knowledge of engineers.
The eEst, in particular the US and the UK are in a much more precarious position, because their debt has financed consumption, not production.
But aren’t we then now in an even more precarious position?
Yes – I think so.
In my opinion this crisis has probably been globally manufactured in order to carry through a currency reset or something equivalent, because the present monetary system is past its sell-by date.
The measures we are confronted with are intended to provide the authorities with the social control necessary in order to try and ensure the supply of essentials such as food, medicine and fuel, as well as to maintain public order in the possible chaos as this monetary system comes to an end.
This is because the hyperinflation/reset in front of us will very likely cause global trade to grind to a halt.
I share your cynicism about China, but am extremely doubtful about a virus attack.
I consider it entirely plausible that some sort of pollution inident occurred in Wuhan and that China spun the story to try and cover that up.
Look at the extremely high concentration of Chinese deaths in Wuhan, although restrictions were first implemented a full two months after the epidemic is supposed to have started.
Not credible.
I hope you’re right. I also believe that the Chinese leaders are utterly ruthless. My very grave concern is that they learn. I don’ know and I really hope I’m just feeling bad today. As I said, I’m sorry for the negativity.
All leaders are ruthless. Otherwise, they don’t get to be leaders.
China owns enormous tracts of land in North America as well.
They also own a significant percentage of US pork production.
It may be man-made. We’ll never know. But at least the Chinese don’t exaggerate ‘cases’ by defining them as people who fail PCR tests.
Well, has ‘it’ been isolated?
The argument against a bio-weapon:
It is very unpredictable once released. You no longer have it under control once released, whereas the control of a fake pandemic is much easier, as the authorities determine both the number of ‘cases’ and which deaths count.
They can dial the ‘pandemic’ up and down as necessary.
Life seems to pretty much normal in China at the moment. Even at the height on really Wuhan was locked down.
If this was some deadly virus let loose by China perhaps someone could explain that its only really some European countries that are affected. Whatever happened back in April and I’m not ruling out that there was a virus ended in May or June at the latest.
What we have now since the flu season started is a massive ramping up of the ‘agenda’ whatever that is based on a false positive rate and media / govt scaremongering. Without that and the masks life would be as normal for most people now.
I have yet to see a satisfactory explanation for the disappearance of influenza in 2020 closely aligning with the appearance of SARS-CoV-2.
I think it’s easy enough to figure out.
Latest narrative being pushed by China, and its armies of social media commenters, is that the virus originated ‘somewhere else’, and was merely detected in Wuhan.
All things considered that could well be the truth. In my opinion C-19 has likely been around for several years, likely diagnosed as flu and largely the same IFR as flu.
Agreed. I keep making this point, China has never had a total national lockdown. Neither has Japan, Taiwan or S Korea,
You’re probably right. The really frightening thing is that this may have been a weapon aimed at non-chinese. Damage to China and to neighbouring countries, eg Vietnam and Thailand, where there is a significant amount of specifically Chinese DNA in the populace, has been only a small fraction of what has happened in Europe and the Americas.
From the headless chicken reactions of the World’s leaders, and most of the populations, if China wants world domination, they can safely bin their nuclear arsenal, develop another virus, vaccinate their population, release it, and walk in.
Exactly. Or any other terrorits organisation.
But the virus is no threat to anything.
It is comparable to the flu.
But it is. To our lives, lifestyles, economies etc. And any organisation that has a vaccine can take control.
I’m not saying this is what’s happening. It’s a late night hypothesis that I hope is wrong; dearly.
These effects are due to the complete overreaction – not to the virus itself.
We don’t need a vaccine.
What if covid19 is just the practice run before the real thing after they have seen how ineffective, if ruinous, our ‘defences’ are ?
Given my position that the purpose of covid has been to allow our governments to take emergency powers with minimal resistance has already worked, that would not be necessary.
And what if it isn’t?
I don’t think they released this one, so no, I disagree.
PM Boris Johnson: Philanderer in Chief. Presently stuck with Princess N N.
As a wise man once said:
“Boris Johnson is fucking cunt, he’s a fucking cunt, he’s a fucking cunt, Boris Johnson is a fucking cunt, he’s a fucking cunt, yes, he’s fucking cunt.”
He’s probably wanking off to Petronella as soon as she’s off to one of her “Save the Pwitty Little Animals” meetings.
Toby, I heard your London Calling podcast with JD. There’s one aspect of your cock-up-not-conspiracy argument that bothers me: Johnson in his conference speech a couple of months back used the pointedly globalist phrase ‘Build Back Better’, against a backdrop bearing that slogan, and was at pains to stress that we simply couldn’t go back to normal because ‘we had sacrificed too much’ and other such BS. My nerves have still not settled since then. Where does this speech fit into your theory of innocent cock-up and incompetence?
Toby is wilfully ignorant.Incompetence stopped being a viable explanation after Leicester local lockdown.
Toby disagrees with you. As do I.
Toby doesn’t want to be cast into the wilderness.I don’t blame him but the evidence is stacking up.
Pretty much what I said. We’re not out to ruin Toby’s life but as others have found out, their lives (their social lives, if not their deep and authentic interior lives) do get ruined when they speak the truth. It’s how the elites have kept power through the ages. We just have a different elite in power now. I think we can all see Toby the truth teller is conflicted with Toby the socialite. We all all have our conflicts and I am not judging him. It’s enough he gives us this forum of sanity in the midst of an epidemic of unreason.
You simply assert that BJ is “responsible” . Yes of course, he is – legally, personally and philosophically responsible – but that has no bearing on whether or not he is advocating the WEF Great Reset policy in this country – a policy which has absolutely nothing to do with anything identifiable as “conservative”. So, logically you then have to address the issue of how come a “conservative” is advocating anti-conservative policies. You might call it the “John McCain” question.
You are asking a very pertinent question but I am not sure that Toby can really handle it. I am sure we all love Toby here not least for providing this oasis of scepticism but he lives within a sub-bubble of the Big Bubble in London and if he were to go down that road of admitting there is something deeply weird going on here, his Bubble Membership would be cancelled. It would be asking too much of him to sacrifice all that. Most of us here have nothing to lose in tellung the truth.
https://www.facebook.com/keepournhspublic/videos/558020178233457/?t=3
https://www.thebernician.net/covid-1984-pcp-update-prima-facie-evidence-of-pandemic-fraud/
long detailed update
Still think this is so impenetrable. Hopefully he’s not completely crackers. The points in Dolans case are good I have to say.
Complaint made to the ICC. Don’t know much about the guy behind this but some excellent points made
https://mobile.twitter.com/joeyjojojunior_/status/1341496123807199236
I know this is nothing to do with the Rona but The Who are the best band ever and Roger Daltrey should be the King. (I may have been drinking and watching YouTube videos).
I too have been drinking incapable of focussing on a vid,but probably maybe perhaps agree.
I remember a few months ago, his response when being told everyone needs to stay in: ‘Go f** yourselves, no way can we wrap everybody in cotton wool!’
Nope, the alcohol has given you superpower hearing. The Who at their best are the best. Won’t Get Fooled Again is our anthem! Lol
Well, I for one won’t get fooled again.
The whole country in Tier 4 by Boxing Day will not be enough for the traitorous MSM pigs. Within a couple of weeks they will be baying for full national lockdown, and campaigning for it to be enforced more strictly than ever. Once this regime is in place (as it will be), the only way out of it will be the vaccine. Then it is over to the people.
Our enemy is lying to us of course. The lockdown will be permanent, with multiple mandatory vaccinations per year until enough of us are dead.
Tier 4 is lockdown.The new mutant strain is the end game.Lock the whole country down and only release it when it accepts the vaccine.
Time to resist
Not quite, it doesn’t include the closure of schools and the once per day only excursion from your household. I expect the new version to be even tighter than back in March/April, with much more vigorous enforcement (up to and including military force).
Not enough police and not enough soldiers.
Armed enforcement will only be required in a few select areas. What were once called “pockets of resistance” in Iraq in 2003.
Most of the country will willingly submit without so much as a whimper.
Iraq did not willingly submit.
They allowed the invasion and then mounted a very effective insurgency. Don’t forget they had withstood an absolute hammering back in 1991 followed by 12 years of brutal sanctions (not to mention having to survive under the iron fist of Saddam Hussein).
lol, don’t encourage him.
I need no encouragement! And I agree that much of my stuff on here is off the beaten track. So is our current direction of travel as a society. Desperate times and all that.
Feels the same from where I’m living
Masks will become compulsory everywhere, I fear.
“Time to resist”
Fucking hell, the time to start resisting was way back in March.
“The new mutant strain is the end game.”
What? No, I think it’s just propaganda designed to scare people. Backfired though didn’t it?
The mutant strain is the excuse to lock us up as saving the NHS has lost its power.Of course it is propaganda to scare people.And the time to resist is rapidly running out,but in your world our incompetent leaders will realise the error of their ways and we will all go back to normal.
I actually agree the mutant strain scare backfired as it has shattered the illusion of competence the government had.
It’s globalism versus populism. The whole of BBC, ITV and Sky are totally onside with the globalists. The UK MSM keep on calling for more severe lockdowns because it’s helping Biden defeat Trump and because it’s helping defeat populism in the UK .
In reality what’s the difference? – between NL and Tier 4 ? Smoke snd mirrors.
“Build Back Better” Compilation – “The Great Reset” Montage – YouTube
Absolutely brilliant!
Nope, no grand conspiracy here folks, move along.
Well I don’t believe the conspiracy bollocks. You believe it if you want to though.
I believe in evidence and facts.
Vaccine mandatory in all but name and digital health passport to come soon
I think you are right.
Clueless.
https://www.facebook.com/keepournhspublic/videos/558020178233457/?t=3
You don’t believe the people in those videos said those things in those videos? Do you work for the BBC ?!?
Nauseating
Wow. Not a conspiracy though?
“We are all in this together” – but I suspect we aren’t included in the “We”.
So for the 24th, 25th, 26th December if you live north of Narrabeen Bridge you cannot leave the area at all but may have 5 people in your home from the same area. If you live south of the Narrabeen Bridge you cannot leave the area but can have 10 people from greater Sydney travel to your home. How does this even make sense. Gladys took great pains to tell us she was looking forward to seeing her mum and dad on Christmas day. How bloody nice for her.
I have long since given up trying to interpret any regulations within a rational framework. Basically the message is: “You are a threat to public health, do not leave your household unless it is absolutely necessary“.
The fear mongering here is mad.
Thanks NN, you are one up on me. I’ve never been on a board in my life. Too scared of bitey things that could take your toes off. Surprisingly, one activity that hasn’t been banned, surfing, but woe betide you if you think of taking a dip in the sea pool.
Krankie on front page of the sun for not abiding by own rules. Pictures caught. Krankie is too soft a word to use but after todays trolling in the comments I’ll stick at that. The comparison is known to get under her skin.
https://twitter.com/AgentP22/status/1341512239375900679?s=20
Yes sturgeon has been caught rools for thee not for me. Resign fire rid us of the shit-heel.
Link direct to Sun
https://twitter.com/ScottishSun/status/1341512841698799616?s=20
Breaking her own law.
Should break her own jaw
Proves two things:
a. She knows it’s all bollox (but we knew that).
b. She’s sick and tired of having to wear the bluddy things.
Heh! Heh! Petard etc.
Captain Beefheart
Link to http://www.beefheart.com/
Scary new chart.
Prize for who guesses what it shows
(Clue is in the first line)
New Green Measles outbreak?
Where the Lockdown Sceptics contributors live?
Oh, fuck off you stupid man.
Ok I’ll tell you
Location of scary new mutant Covid cases.
Well we very clearly need a new national lockdown in that case.
Thank goodness Fact Checkers trashed the claims in the ‘Canada Memo’, otherwise we might conspiratorially theorise that this scary new strain was all part of the plan
I feel like I’m being mentally ‘kettled’ – every time I try to find some hope, some escape, some rationale my thoughts rush forward and close in on the truly despotic nature of the situation. Punished under house arrest because humans are catching a cold. And the awful inevitability of the dystopian future that awaits. It’s like a bereavement and the stages of grief – I’ve experienced anger, frustration, screaming, moaning, sadness, hopelessness, loneliness, numbness and sometimes even calm acceptance. Mostly now I’m just going through the motions with a huge weight of sadness in my heart. For us and our children, the memories we have and the futures they won’t have.
Very eloquently put. Severe lack of sleep has been a persistent feature for me since March 2020. Every time I attempt to sleep I keep seeing all the nonsense over and over again in my mind’s eye. Goodness knows how many years this is taking off my life.
Thank you Richard and same here. I try so hard to distract and tire myself out in the day but to no avail – once my head hits the pillow, often 3, 4, 5am the horror comes flooding back and I feel like I’m pleading a case for sanity in front of a jury of not my peers. But this site helps to know we’re not alone.
I find I need youtube on.. podcasts.. voices.. to sleep.
There are people who can help. But you won’t be interested, will you?
Yes, you’re always on here. Do you ever sleep?
I went to bed last night with your conspiratorial garbage and misanthropy bouncing around my cranium and I come on here this morning to find that you’re still on here.
I could probably help you Richard O, but you’re probably beyond redemption.
The future does not exist. It only exists in your imagination.
All you actually have is here and now.
Mr Big:
When large numbers of negative results are needed (for sending undergraduates home for the holidays or returning lorry drivers to the continent) the liquid flow tests are rolled out. The rest of the time it’s the same old PCR shit (sorry I meant ‘gold standard’) with the false negatives, processed incompetently.
This is pure hypocrisy
Good news is that French legislation, due to be introduced into parliament today and which would have provided for health passport scheme, denial of services to the non-vaccination people (plus internment and consfication of assets) has been postponed ‘until the crisis is over’ due to massive political opposition. It would be nice to see our Leader of the Opposition doing some actual opposing.
https://thefatemperor.com/published-papers-and-data-on-lockdown-weak-efficacy-and-lockdown-huge-harms/