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Here We Go Again…

Matt Hancock raised the alarm in Parliament yesterday when he said a new variant of Coronavirus was doing the rounds and linked this to the rise in community infections in Kent and London. The press release from Public Health England has the details.

The strain was identified due to Public Health England’s proactive and enhanced monitoring following the increase in cases seen in Kent and London. The variant has been named ‘VUI – 202012/01’ (the first Variant Under Investigation in December 2020).

As of December 13th, 1,108 cases with this variant have been identified, predominantly in the South and East of England. PHE is working with partners to investigate and plans to share its findings over the next two weeks. There is currently no evidence to suggest that the strain has any impact on disease severity, antibody response or vaccine efficacy.

High numbers of cases of the variant virus have been observed in some areas where there is also a high incidence of COVID-19. It is not yet known whether the variant is responsible for these increased numbers of cases. PHE will monitor the impact of this in the coming days and weeks.

It is not uncommon for viruses to undergo mutations; seasonal influenza mutates every year. Variants of SARS-CoV-2 have been observed in other countries, such as Spain.

This variant includes a mutation in the ‘spike’ protein. Changes in this part of the spike protein may result in the virus becoming more infectious and spreading more easily between people.

A paper in Nature by François Balloux among others provides some helpful context. He pointed out in a Twitter thread that he and his team had identified 12,000 variants/mutations, none of which increased transmission or led to more severe infections.

At the Number 10 press briefing that followed Matt Hancock’s announcement, Chris Whitty played down potential fears concerning the new variant, as Ross Clark reports in the Spectator:

Mutations are only to be expected, he said, and many have already emerged. It isn’t clear, he added, whether the new variant is more transmissible than previous ones… There is no evidence, he said, that the new variant is more dangerous to humans than previous versions, and no reason to suspect that this would be the case… Nor, said Whitty, is there any reason to imagine that the new variant will be any more resistant to the Pfizer vaccine or any other vaccine, too few people have yet been given the vaccine for the virus to start developing its own immunity to the vaccine. 

The sudden appearance of a variant/mutation – LonKent-20? – along with the rising numbers of reported cases has led to speculation about whether we’ll still give five days off over Christmas. Whitty reminded us that “the fact that some relaxations are being made not to the tiering but to people’s ability to meet their families over Christmas does not mean that they should go to the top of the licence of that. The point of this is, under certain circumstances, for families who wish to, to get together, but they really have to be very very careful”. Hancock said:

On the modelling around Christmas, it all depends on people’s behaviour and the most important thing is that people are cautious and careful ahead of Christmas and during Christmas and hence why we’re saying that so clearly.

Back to Ross Clark in the Spectator:

Should we worry about the emergence of a new variant of SARS-CoV-2, the virus which causes COVID-19? As I wrote in May, the SARS-CoV-2 virus has already mutated once into a form that might be more transmissible. This could possibly explain why Europe and North America have found it harder to contain the virus than have Asian countries. Were we fighting a slightly different disease to the one which emerged in Wuhan in January? 

In a recent survey of 46,723 people with COVID-19 from 99 countries, researchers identified more than 12,700 mutations. “None of these mutations are making COVID-19 spread more rapidly,” according to Lucy van Dorp, a professor at University College London’s Genetics Institute and one of the co-lead researchers on the study.

But what today’s news has done, in particular the decision to shift the capital into a higher tier, is to change the mood. From a picture of declining infections in late November and early December, we are heading back, once more, into a period of tighter restrictions. 

Once again, as throughout this crisis, questions at this evening’s briefing focused on whether tighter lockdowns would be imposed. This time, there were also repeated questions on whether the relaxation of rules on households mixing over Christmas ought now to be revisited. Given that Germany and other countries have started imposing lockdowns across Christmas, I give it until about Thursday until Boris is back at the lectern announcing that, regrettably, it is going to be necessary to cancel Granny’s visit.

Ross Clark’s piece is worth reading in full.

London Placed in Tier 3

Captain Scapegoat, the Secretary of State for Bad News

The other big story yesterday was that London will be placed in Tier 3 at one minute after midnight on Wednesday morning, along with south and west Essex, and south Hertfordshire. The move means that 34 million people – 61% of the English population – will be living under the highest level of COVID-19 restrictions. It was significant that this was announced by Matt Hancock, not “too busy with Brussels” Boris, presumably because it was such bad news and Boris wanted to avoid the blame. From Hancock’s statement:

Sadly, the news on the spread of the virus is not good. The latest number of cases of coronavirus is rising once more. We’ve seen an increase of 14% in the last week and the number of patients admitted to hospital across the UK has risen again too.

The average number of new cases reported each day is 18,023 which is up on last week. Today, there are 16,531 COVID-19 patients in hospitals across the UK, which is also up. And sadly, on average each day over the past week 420 deaths have been reported

Once again, the spread of this disease is not even across the country. There have been sharp rises in South Wales, London, Kent, Essex and parts of the East and South East of England. In some areas, the doubling time is now seven days. This rise is amongst people of all age groups, not just school-age children.

I’m particularly concerned by the rising rates amongst the over-60s and the number of people in hospital, which is also rising. That’s even before we factor in the increases in last week’s rates. And we know through painful experience: more cases lead to more hospitalisations and sadly, more deaths.

At this point it is worth turning to Tim Spector, the founder of the ZOE App.

First, he was asked on Twitter whether the rate of infection is increasing:

And his reply:

Secondly, what does the ZOE App tell us about the rising rates among the over-60s?

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When Hancock referred to “rising rates amongst the over-60s”, perhaps he meant the rising number of over-60s in hospitals and care homes becoming infected, even though infections among the entire population of over-60s appears to be falling. Tim was asked about this on Twitter and said:

If Tim Spector is right, it points to a problem in hospitals and care homes, i.e. nosocomial infection. It is hard to see how it can be fixed by closing bars and restaurants, and at such short notice that Hancock jumped the gun and announced the new restrictions two days ahead of the “review” scheduled for Wednesday.

To get an idea of what Tier 3 means for the hospitality trade, it’s also worth turning to a recent story in the Manchester Evening News.

Simon Delaney has worked in the pub industry for 30 years. Now he fears his venues won’t make it through to the new year, and believes the coronavirus restrictions placed on the hospitality industry could signal the end for the great British pub.

Simon, who also runs the Little Bee in Sale, has even won awards for his pub’s ability to connect people, including best community pub in Great Britain, the Spirit of Manchester and the Pride of Manchester. But, since the beginning of the pandemic, his local community have been left without the support of one its most cherished institutions. And, now that Greater Manchester is in Tier 3, Simon fears his pub won’t survive past Christmas.

Simon worries that even if the region is moved down to Tier 2, many of his local punters don’t have the income to support buying a ‘substantial meal’ every time they want a drink. And the lack of support for the hospitality industry, he claims, could signal the end for what he describes as the great British pub.

“With the first lockdown everything was okay – we had the furlough and there were grants, loans, and all kinds of support,” Simon said.

“After that, when the new restrictions came in with the curfew and the substantial meal it all just went downhill. When we went into this second lockdown we thought it’s okay, it will only be a couple of weeks, but then we have come out and we are still in lockdown here.”

Over the last five years, Simon, who drank his first ever pint in the Firbank and grew up locally, has repeatedly beaten the odds to keep the pub open. A drug dealer demanded £5,000 from Simon to “make it stop”, before ending up being prosecuted for blackmail. Simon has also fought back from a brain haemorrhage to turn the Firbank into an award-winning pub which employs local people.

Whilst Simon’s staff are on furlough pay, he and his wife Rachel are not receiving an income, and cannot apply for any extra support.

“Tier 3 and Tier 2 is going to be the death of the great British pub. We have already got a situation where people are leaving the industry, and they won’t come back.

“For me this is a lifestyle not a job, but now we are both having to look at taking other employment. It has left me and my wife in tears seeing what is happening to this industry. There aren’t many community centres left in Wythenshawe and that has become the role of the pub. If the pub isn’t here, who will it be?”

Worth reading in full.

Is the Rise in Community Infections an Artefact of Increased Testing and False Positives?

The apparent rise in infections that has prompted moving London into Tier 3 may be due to our old friend the false positive rate of the PCR test. Today, we’re publishing a piece describing in fairly simply language how the test works and why false positives are such a problem. It’s by an eminent research scientist who has a PhD in microbial pathogenicity and has been using RT-PCR for over 30 years. Here’s an extract:

The amazing sensitivity of methods based on PCR is both their exoneration and their potential downfall. Each PCR cycle doubles the amount of material, which may not sound impressive, but it really is. To illustrate this, imagine you were perched on top of the Big Ben tower (96 metres up) and it doubled in length every second. Within 22 seconds (22 doublings), you would be travelling at the speed of light (leaving aside Special Relativity). So if something goes wrong in the PCR, you quickly amplify an aberrant result to staggering proportions.

After outlining the various ways in which the PCR test can generate false positive, he reaches his sobering conclusion.

This is a technical summary stripped of as much jargon as possible. As it relates to COVID-19, it doesn’t cover so-called ‘cold’ positives, in which virus RNA (including RNA fragments) is present in samples that do not contain viable or infectious virus and yet may still may give a positive signal. But it should highlight that although qRT-PCR is immensely powerful in research, its potential pitfalls require punctilious safeguards. In research, each experiment is performed with independent samples on at least two occasions – a minimal requirement for publication by respected journals. Interpreting both positive and negative qRT-PCR results requires experience that is most abundant among molecular biologists working on eukaryotic systems, and one wonders to what extent they have been called upon to advise on COVID-19 testing. There are few technical grounds on which to be confident that qRT-PCR is readily scalable, but doubts about its clinical application could be met squarely, whilst respecting patient anonymity, by complete, contemporaneous and auditable transparency.

This is a great explanation from a scientist who knows everything there is to know about this incredibly complex diagnostic tool.

Worth reading in full.

WHO chief Tedros Ghebreyseus Accused of Aiding Genocide

Tedros Ghebreyseus, Director General of the World Health Organisation, stands accused of aiding genocide during his time as a Government Minister in Ethiopia. MailOnline has the story:  

American economist David Steinman has accused WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, 55, of aiding genocide in Ethiopia. He accused Tedros of being one of three officials who were in charge of the security services over that period, during which the “killing” and “torturing” of Ethiopians took place. 

Tedros was the country’s foreign minister until 2016 when his Tigray People’s Liberation Front party was in power. Raised in Tigray, he also served as Ethiopia’s health minister from 2005 to 2012 before being elected WHO director-general in 2017, the first African to take the role.

Mr Steinman, who was nominated for the 2019 Nobel peace prize, lodged the complaint calling for Tedros to be prosecuted for genocide at the International Criminal Court in the Hague. He claimed that Tedros “was a crucial decision maker in relation to security service actions that included killing, arbitrarily detaining and torturing Ethiopians”.

Mr Steinman also alleged that the WHO chief oversaw the “killing, and causing serious bodily and mental harm to, members of the Amhara, Konso, Oromo and Somali tribes with intent to destroy those tribes in whole or in part”. He claimed that while Tedros “co-led” Ethiopia’s Government for four years, the regime “was marked by widespread or systematic crimes against humanity by subordinates”.

In the filed complaint, Mr Steinman referenced a 2016 US Government report on human rights in Ethiopia that found the “civilian authorities at times did not maintain control over the security forces, and local police in rural areas and local militias sometimes acted independently”.

Mr Steinman, a former consulting expert to the US National Security Council, accused Tedros of being involved in the “intimidation of opposition candidates and supporters” which included “arbitrary arrest… and lengthy pre-trial detention”.  

The complaint can only proceed to the Hague court if it is adopted by prosecutors. It would be the first prosecution of a senior UN figure if it does proceed.   

Tedros has denied the allegations and any wrongdoing. 

Worth reading in full.

Covert Strategies – A Letter to the British Psychological Society

The compliant attitude of the British public to the Government’s heavy-heavy handed restrictions – the lockdowns, mask-wearing, travel restrictions, and so on – has been a notable feature of the COVID-19 crisis. Dr Gary Sidley, a Lockdown Sceptics reader and a psychologist, says that this has much to do with the fear engendered by the psychologists employed in the Behavioural Insights Team. Their approach to terrifying the public is based on the acronym MINDSPACE, according to Dr Sidley, which he summed up in a blogpost here. In brief:

  • MESSENGER – We are influenced by the source of the information
  • INCENTIVES – We employ predictable shortcuts such as strongly avoiding losses
  • NORMS – We are strongly influenced by what others do
  • DEFAULTS – We ‘go with the flow’ of pre-set options
  • SALIENCE – Our attention is drawn to what is novel and seems personally relevant
  • PRIMING – Our acts are often influenced by subconscious cues
  • AFFECT – Our emotions powerfully shape our actions
  • COMMITMENTS – We seek to be consistent with our public promises
  • EGO – We act in ways that make us feel better about ourselves

He has written a letter to British Psychological Society highlighting the ethical implications of the strategy, which believes may constitute a breach of psychologists’ professional code of ethics:

A comprehensive account of the psychological approaches deployed by the Behavioural Insight Team (BIT) is provided in the document, “MINDSPACE: Influencing behaviour through public policy” (available here). The authors describe how their behavioural strategies provide “low cost, low pain ways of ‘nudging’ citizens… into new ways of acting by going with the grain of how we think and act“…

Many of the nudges developed and put forward by the BIT psychologists are, to various degrees, acting upon us automatically, below the level of conscious thought and reason. Although we accept there may be legitimate reasons for utilising covert psychological strategies within our communities, perhaps as a marketing tool to shape opinion about a consumer product or as part of, for example, Government campaigns to discourage vandalism or to prevent young men stabbing each other, in the sphere of individual health decisions we believe transparency is required.

In order to inform and direct the Government’s communication strategy aimed at achieving the public’s compliance with COVID-19 restrictions, it is apparent that the BIT psychologists have promoted a range of covert psychological interventions. For example, our inherent need to preserve a positive self-image has been exploited by the incessant slogans and mantras insisting that compliance with the Government’s coronavirus diktats is akin to the altruism of helping others, a focus on ‘ego’, to use the MINDSPACE terminology. Another example has been the use of peer pressure (‘norms’) on the non-compliers by casting these supposed miscreants in the uncomfortable bracket of a deviant minority. But the most potent, and most ethically dubious, strategy has been the inflation of fear (‘affect’) as a means of coercing people into obedience.

The decision to inflate the levels of fear among the British public was a strategic one, as indicated by the minutes of the SAGE meeting of March 22nd, 2020. Clearly, the BIT psychologists recommended scaring people as an effective way of maximising compliance with the coronavirus restrictions. Consequently, the general population has had to endure a media onslaught primarily aimed at inflating perceived threat levels that has included: the daily announcement of coronavirus-death statistics, displayed without context; repeated footage of people dying in Intensive Care Units; scary slogans and the promotion of face coverings, a potent symbol of danger, despite there being little evidence for their effectiveness in reducing viral spread.

The authors of MINDSPACE recognised the significant ethical dilemmas arising from the use of influencing strategies that impact subconsciously on the country’s citizens. They acknowledged that the deployment of covert methods to change behaviour “has implications for consent and freedom of choice” and offers people “little opportunity to opt out”. Furthermore, it is conceded that “policymakers wishing to use these tools… need the approval of the public to do so”. So have the British people been consulted about whether they agree to Government using covert psychological techniques to promote compliance with contentious public health policies? We suspect not. It seems the BIT psychologists are operating in ethically murky waters in implementing their nudges, without our consent, to promote mass acceptance of infringements on basic human freedoms.

In the British Psychological Society Code of Ethics & Conduct one of the ‘Statement of Values’ is: “Psychologists value the dignity and worth of all persons, with sensitivity to the dynamics of perceived authority or influence over persons and peoples and with particular regard to people’s rights. In applying these values, Psychologists should consider consent and self-determination.“

We believe that the BIT psychologists, in their deployment of covert strategies to achieve compliance with unprecedented lockdowns, travel restrictions and mask mandates, have blatantly failed to practice in a way that is consistent with the ethics of the British Psychological Society.

Worth reading in full.

Dr Gary Sidley, is looking for co-signatories. If you are UK based psychologist or therapist and would like to support the letter, do get in touch with him by email or on twitter.

Wetherspoons Strikes Back

A branch of Spoons down in Faversham caused a bit of stir yesterday after putting up some posters in one of its windows. KentOnline has the story:

Pub chain giant Wetherspoon has been branded “socially irresponsible” for displaying anti-lockdown messages from its newsletter in the window of one of its outlets. The move has angered a town councillor who says the posters “play down” the seriousness of the infection when Swale is suffering especially high numbers of cases.

Cllr Hannah Perkin spotted the newsletter pages posted in the window of the Leading Light Wetherspoon in Faversham today and posted her anger on Twitter. “This is especially dangerous in Swale where we have some of the highest rates in the country,” she wrote. “This is socially irresponsible and not the way out of Tier 3. Speaking to KentOnline, she said: “Swale’s rates are still quite high and I think its concerning when public health experts are telling us that we really should be abiding with Government guidelines.”

The subversive pages come from the latest edition of the Wetherspoon News, which focusses on COVID-19 and features among others, Lord Jonathan Sumption, Dr Johan Giesecke and Dr Mike Yeadon. The online edition is available here, but look out for 120-page edition of the print magazine which should be available in your local Spoons and would make a good accompaniment to a substantial meal.

Documentary About Sweden

Lockdown Sceptics reader Sean Spencer went to Stockholm in August to make a zero budget documentary with BAFTA nominated filmmaker Claudia Nye about the Swedish approach to Coronavirus. They were so impressed by Anders Tegnell’s steely determination under intense scrutiny and worldwide pressure, they arranged an interview with him and produced a film about Sweden’s unique approach to managing the virus.

Sean has posted a couple of clips on YouTube: How novel is COVID-19, and is population density one reason the Swedish approach seems to have largely worked?

Both worth checking out.

Free Speech Union Vows to Take Will Knowland Fight to Parliament

Alas, Will Knowland has failed to overturn his dismissal on appeal. Will is the Eton teacher – and Free Speech Union member – who was sacked for refusing to delete his video-lecture challenging radical feminist orthodoxy. The Telegraph‘s Camilla Turner has the story.

Eton College’s dismissal of a Master was justified, an appeal panel has ruled as free speech activists pledge to elevate the case to the Attorney General.

The Head Master of the 580-year-old institution said that intellectual freedom “lies at the heart” of an Eton education but added that there are “limits to the freedoms that teachers have”.

Simon Henderson told parents that there must now be a period of reflection on recent events and that the school will need to “consider how we continue to maintain a positive dialogue between those who hold opposing views”. He urged both parents and Eton Masters to “move forward together for the benefit of the boys”.

Will Knowland, an English teacher at Eton, was sacked earlier this year for gross misconduct after recording a lecture which questioned “current radical feminist orthodoxy” and then refusing to remove it from his YouTube channel.

The Free Speech Union has vowed to take the case up with the Charity Commission and the Attorney General, as well as get its friends in Parliament to amend the Equality Act. You can read its response here and in this Twitter thread.

Round-up

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Five today: “London Blues” by David Koven, “Here Comes Another Wave” by Legs11, “White China” by Ultravox, “Perhaps, Perhaps, Perhaps” by Doris Day and “Que Sera Sera” also by Doris Day

Love in the Time of Covid

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.

Sharing Stories

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Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, from Leo Terrel, a new story from liberal academia. In this case the Harvard Medical School:

In the English language, there are tons of words used interchangeably for female: woman, lady, girl, gal, even damsel, to name but a few. Harvard Medical School just used a new one: “birthing people”.

“Globally, ethnic minority pregnant and birthing people suffer worse outcomes and experiences during and after pregnancy and childbirth,” a tweet said. 

Shortly after, the institution shared a follow-up. 

“The webinar panellists used the term ‘birthing person’ to include those who identify as non-binary or transgender because not all who give birth identify as ‘women’ or ‘girls’,” they said.

They added that the terminology was not meant to “dehumanize” or “erase” women, however it seems to do exactly that by reducing women to their organs. 

To sum it up, this statement is neither progressive nor inclusive. When talking about those who give birth, women should ideally be first on the list. 

For a side that argues in favour of science, the hypocrisy is astounding.

Stop Press: On the subject of liberal academia, we’ve had a couple more entries to our contest for a Woke-English translation of this tweet from the Rhodes Trust.

Here’s the first entry:

Billy-Ray works at the University of British Columbia imagining what new letters can be added to LGBTQ+ in the future

And here’s the second:

Billy and Ray are modern alchemists. They can make gold from anything. Or less. Undaunted by empirical evidence that older alchemical methods had failed because the real elemental nature of the target metal resisted synthesis, Billy and Ray pursue, instead, a dog-legged, two-stage, approach. First, an entirely fictional, idealised, currency is created by combining precise quantities of self-importance, outrage, and fashionable abstract nouns. This mind-dependent currency is then exchanged, in meticulously concocted conditions of academic credulity and fear, for the real thing. It is to be noted that the idealised substance has a highly unstable ontological nature, depending as it does on the maintenance of a complex illusion on the part of both its creators and market-makers in the academic community. This would be threatened if Billy or Ray were ever to develop any real creative output; hence their employment roles. Billy and Ray used to worry that their fraud was too transparent. But not these days. 

Stop Press 2: The Telegraph has news of a rare victory for common sense. Unconscious Bias Training will be scrapped for all civil servants after a Government review found little evidence that it works. Toby is taking the credit for this because the Free Speech Union published a comprehensive briefing paper debunking UBT a couple of months ago. You can read that paper here.

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.

Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.

If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.

And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here.

The Great Barrington Declaration

Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)

You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.

Update: The authors of the GDB have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.

Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.

Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.

Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here.

Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.

First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here. Alas, he’s now reached the end of the road, with the Supreme Court’s refusal to hear his appeal. Dolan has no regrets. “We forced SAGE to produce its minutes, got the Government to concede it had not lawfully shut schools, and lit the fire on scrutinizing data and information,” he says. “We also believe our findings and evidence, while not considered properly by the judges, will be of use in the inevitable public inquires which will follow and will help history judge the PM, Matt Hancock and their advisers in the light that they deserve.”

Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.

Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.

There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.

The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars.

And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review last week, but the FSU may appeal the decision. Check here for updates.

Samaritans

If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email [email protected] or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.

Quotation Corner

We know they are lying. They know they are lying, They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know that we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

Mark Twain

Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.

Charles Mackay

They who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin

To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he’s doing is good, or else that it’s a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions…

Ideology – that is what gives the evildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you never should trust experts. If you believe the doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require to have their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury

Nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get into the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man, who knows where it hurts, is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialist.

Sir Winston Churchill

If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science.

Richard Feynman

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C.S. Lewis

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

Albert Camus

We’ve arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.

Carl Sagan

Political language – and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists – is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.

George Orwell

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.

Marcus Aurelius

Necessity is the plea for every restriction of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.

William Pitt the Younger

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Joseph Goebbels (attributed)

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.

H.L. Mencken

I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who denies to another this right, makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.

Thomas Paine

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John Smith
John Smith
5 years ago

Hear hear.

I’m one of the army of logistical worker drones keeping these arseholes afloat so heartily agree.

Bella Donna
Bella Donna
5 years ago

Toby I’m with James on this one! Yes you are a cuck!
https://spectator.us/cuck-election-stolen/amp/

NickMidi
NickMidi
5 years ago

I just had quite a good debate on Facebook tonight. It was started by an intelligent friend who was well meaning but completely simplifying the issue by asking his friends: If you had the choice between making money and saving lives what would you choose? I put my two pennies worth in about how this is oversimplification to the point of irrelevance, There were a couple of sceptics amongst the many righteous but I thought I would share my parting shot as I think many others on here will agree (and it is nice to be agreed with):

I think public perception of how people are reacting to the decisions of our governments are being spun as much as ‘the science’ is. As I am a lockdown and restriction sceptic I seek out and speak to other people who have similarish concerns to our current situation to my own. When I get really into the conversation with them, in my experience so far, none of them are really truly concerned about the economy. The Economy is an abstract concept that we can apply with a broad brush to lots of aspects of our lives. What I have found to be… Read more »

awildgoose
awildgoose
5 years ago

Telegraph reports “hundreds” of CCP members employed at the Big Four accounting firms:

https://twitter.com/JanJekielek/status/1338950799695732740?s=19

John P
John P
5 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

Who runs HSBC? (The Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation).

JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  John P

Gangsters, money launderers, and drug dealers.

awildgoose
awildgoose
5 years ago

Folks following the US election should be aware of Executive Order 13848 regarding foreign interference in US elections.

Trump wrote this order in 2018, six months after the Republicans lost the US House in the midterm elections:

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/09/14/2018-20203/imposing-certain-sanctions-in-the-event-of-foreign-interference-in-a-united-states-election

Does this order have real teeth?

I believe we shall soon find out.

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

I think this has been talked up too much. His last gambit might be to declare martial law, call off the transfer of power and offer up all the evidence of corrupt electoral practice, then leave it to SCOTUS to decide. SCOTUS may likely side with Biden but it will be a fine exit, defending the Constitution to the last.

John Smith
John Smith
5 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

It’s going to happen. That’s why the whole of Europe is shutting down.

OKUK
5 years ago

Deb Cohen on Newsnight again proving herself by far the best and most honest BBC reporter out there (not much competition) as she slipped in quite a few sceptical observations e.g. the infection rate in Liverpool was already falling before it went into Tier 3.

But overall the BBC is totally failing in its legal duty to be impartial. A sizeable body of opinion in the UK thinks that the LMTV (lockdown-masking-testing-vaccinate) policy has been, demonstrably, a complete and utter failure, an exercise in horrendous self-harm. But our perfectly legitimate and (still) legal views are never represented on Newsnight or any other BBC output, except when we are stigmatised by ignorant nonjournos like the low IQ Marianna Spring as “conspiracy theories”.

DRW
DRW
5 years ago

I really hope the optimists, which my unofficial partner is, are eventually proven right.

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  DRW

Optimism in 2021:

– Only a third of the economy will be wiped out.

– Chidren are resilient…they can get by without an education.

– I was never a great fan of football, theatre or music festivals anyway.

– OK, Biden had to resign, but at least that nice Kamala Harris is President now.

– Maybe the vaccine didn’t work as planned but it was a great moment of hope.

Martin Spencer
Martin Spencer
5 years ago
Reply to  DRW

What is an “unofficial partner”?

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Martin Spencer

They don’t know it yet?

Liam
Liam
5 years ago
Reply to  Martin Spencer

Leave him the fuck alone, the man is suffering.

chaos
chaos
5 years ago
Reply to  Martin Spencer

Princess Nut Nut

Liam
Liam
5 years ago

I want blood. I feel completely consumed with violent, blood soaked vengeance for what’s been done to me. I’d best sign off for tonight.

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Liam

I’d be happy with a few resignations, a change in policy and a full on judicial inquiry.

Liam
Liam
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

You’re kidding yourself. These bastards need to die.

Elenesse
Elenesse
5 years ago

One thing that strikes me about all this is that we’re not even free to have a common cold without the threat of being locked down over it. It’s as if being ill with something that in previous years no one batted an eyelid over has all of a sudden become something to fear above all else. I know when I come down with a cold, the last thing I want to do is go out but it’s never been a crime to do so if you needed to either whilst going through a cold.

I’m sure for a lot of people, they’re worried about getting a cold not because they’re scared of the virus but because they’re more worried they’ll be told to self isolate and put their lives on hold for 2 weeks and rely on family or friends to not starve during that time.

Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
5 years ago
Reply to  Elenesse

We are as you say literally being punished for catching a cold……on the face of it. However in reality we’re in perpetual purgatory whether we have a cold or not. The rules for when we can have some form of freedom are constantly changed and always just out of reach – don’t overwhelm the NHS, flatten the curve, reduction in deaths, reduce the R number, reduce ‘case’ numbers, don’t overwhelm the NHS (again), wait for the vaccine, zero COVID, Tiers, Lockdowns, Masks, daily death numbers and fear porn headlines and now of course the ridiculous ‘new strain of COVID’, – all designed to depress us. We’re like prisoners where the release date and terms of our release are forever out of reach. Of all the worst aspects of this I find the public compliance the most horrifying. ‘If I can see it why can’t they?’

Arkansas
Arkansas
5 years ago
Reply to  Andrea Salford

We are literally being punished for maybe going to catch a cold, one day in the future, possibly. Again, on the face of it. But really we are being punished for being grouped under the concept that “(most) humans are the infection”.

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  Elenesse

They are literally turning us into a nation of germophobes.

I remember when the germophobic American recluse Howard Hughes used to be an object of complete ridicule and mirth in this country. Now, of course (were he still alive) , you woudn’t be surprised to see him (hair and nails left uncut to miminise the risk of infection) heading up a press conference with fellow weirdos Whitty, Vallance, Hancock and Johnson.

“Mr Hughes is now going to describe to you what steps he will be taking this Christmas to reduce the risk of catching this deadly virus”.

Nick Middleton
Nick Middleton
5 years ago
Reply to  Elenesse

Forget the cold, I HAVE MAN FLU

Nick Middleton
Nick Middleton
5 years ago
Reply to  Elenesse

(I don’t really, I’m just pissed and thought it would be funny)

richard riewer
richard riewer
5 years ago

Global Public Health is hazardous for your health.

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  richard riewer

Globalist?

RickH
RickH
5 years ago

I just went back to check the range of crap models of Covid presented by the Chuckle Brothers back in November – now pre-empted by anyone with a fairly basic grasp of data and analysis.

Of course, we knew they were crap at the time. But, looking back, what strikes me is how the ‘Mexican Hat’ shapes of most of the curves were so obviously duff, given what we knew. That, in itself should have been a simple give-away of the fact that these models were utter crap, when it was so obvious that what they described was nowhere near the reality.

And these people are getting research grants?

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Most are getting regular salaries and protected pensions largely paid by us, while they reduce everyone else to penury.

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Our academic system is crazy. Why do we need so many duff epidemiologists who make so many wildly inaccurate predictions and can’t agree along themselves on anything. We just need a team of decent epidemiologists on the government payroll in case we ever face something like the Spanish flu. I’d have them led by Carl Heneghan.

Like forensic science courses in unis, epidemiology seems to attract a load of chancers who want to pretend to be proper doctors or scientists. That said, a lot of GPs are really just pharmacists, except your local pharmacist knows more about the drugs than they do.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

I agree with you to a great extent : the Great Scam has revealed a large pool of poor science within the epidemiology and public health sectors. Then we have the slightly different situation of highly specialized virologists and immunologists pontificating about areas of social policy for which they have no brief or experience (or sufficient ‘intelligence’ in the wider sense).

Clearly, a certain limited technical expertise is not a sufficient condition for competence when it comes to evaluating policy options.

But, as we know as we have made our own investigations and evaluations, there are members of these disciplines who do have wider skills and who are much needed to inform a proper debate.

The problem is getting the right people into the right roles.

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I agree totally. We currently have the wrong people on the wrong roles, the wrong people in the right roles and the right people in no roles.

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago

https://mobile.twitter.com/OnCall4ON/status/1338933683592556544

Dr Yaffe, Ontario Assoc Chief Medical Officer of Health: “I don’t know why I bring all these papers, I never look at them. I just say whatever they write down for me.”

Dr Williams, ON Chief Medical Officer of Health: “Yeah, same.”

WHO are “they”?

Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
5 years ago

Thanks for this. These are my “top” public health officials…give me strength. My husband and I are quite convinced that any doctor in public health likely graduated at the bottom of their class and probably never saw an actual patient. I despise these people.

String
String
5 years ago

Everyone in the Health sector is “the top”. Nobody ever recommends to their friends & family – “I saw my Doctor the other day, he’s the worst. He’s not the best. he’s the worst.” You’re right someone, somewhere, is graduating the bottom of these classes. But you never hear about it! 🙂

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago

This is right up sceptic alley. Government tells us we all need the vaccine, do it for your country Hancock says. 80%+ of the population.

And yet:

“Vaccine debate now brewing on (i) who gets it first, and (ii) vaccine rates required for herd-immunity & getting back to normal.

Public Health says no normal ‘til vax rates are 60-70% (*assumed* herd threshold).

The Toronto data says perhaps just 10.9%…

Let’s explore…”

https://mobile.twitter.com/rubiconcapital_/status/1338646196504719361

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago

Goa Game Changer: Indian State’s Health Authority Approves & Distributes Ivermectin & Doxycycline to Treat COVID-19 as Prophylaxis

https://trialsitenews.com/goa-game-changer-indian-states-health-authority-approves-distributes-ivermectin-doxycycline-to-treat-covid-19-as-prophylaxis/

Cheap and effective

OKUK
5 years ago

This could be v interesting. Expect the whole weight of Big Pharma, WEF Governance and CCP tyrants to come down on this. But the PC Left will be confused by this – good!

swedenborg
swedenborg
5 years ago

Another picture showing this is not controllable and the illusion that a seasonal virus can be contained by any human action

https://twitter.com/ianmSC/status/1338974424519692288
 So are we still pretending that everyone in Arizona, Nevada and California listened and then stopped listening to public health guidance at nearly the exact same times and to the same extent or are we ready to admit interventions are useless and spread is regional and seasonal

three states.jpg
BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55318815

A growing number of US government agencies have been targeted in a sophisticated hack.

The US Treasury and departments of homeland security, state, defence and commerce were attacked, reports say.

SolarWinds Orion, the computer network tool at the source of the breach, said 18,000 of its 300,000 customers might have been affected

String
String
5 years ago

Apparently various US Fed’s went to the offices of SolarWinds Orion & nabbed a bunch of their stuff & systems. Particularly noteworthy: another prominent company that may be familiar to readers, apparently uses SolarWinds – Dominion Voting Systems.

OKUK
5 years ago

The Chinese Communist Party has not yet issued an unconvincing denial.

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago

The Antrim Report on Election Fraud in the US. This is heavy hitting in many parts.

“… We recommend that an independent group should be empaneled to determine the extent of the adjudication errors throughout the State of Michigan. This is a national security issue”

https://www.depernolaw.com/uploads/2/7/0/2/27029178/antrim_michigan_forensics_report_%5B121320%5D_v2_%5Bredacted%5D.pdf

“We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results. The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors. The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit trail. This leads to voter or election fraud.”

awildgoose
awildgoose
5 years ago

BeBop-

Thanks for sharing this.

Sadly, I feel as though there are simply far too many Americans that have been beaten into submission by the media. They seem to think Biden would bring a return to normalcy so they can resume grillin’ n’ chillin’.

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

That sounds like unwarranted stereotyping to me.

One thing I would say is that the status of individual States is guaranteed by the constitution. There are a lot of pissed off states like Texas, enraged that their basically honest elections have laughed at by the corrupt contended states. Even if the people are weak their State reps might be bold on their behalf. It was a real mistake for SCOTUS to treat Texas with such contempt.

Maybe all the Republican electors will separately declare Trump President.

Ovis
5 years ago

Bebop, for the benefit of the ill informed (such as my sheepy self), what is the status of this report? Is it freelance, police, ordered by a legislature?

And where does it lead politically?

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

Well it would seem to be in dispute of course as to how accurate the report is. It’s a technical audit of the electronic voting system used in Antrim County. A judge ordered its release.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/14/judge-orders-release-report-examining-antrim-county-vote-tabulators/6537004002/

Politically it means that if there is truth in such claims, Trump seems to have exhausted normal avenues. So he either starts arresting people now or he was bluffing.

You have to think that such allegations don’t go away however. And if the US doesn’t address it big time, 2021 looks like a rough one. Biden wants unity? Hmm, can’t see it.

Ovis
5 years ago

Thankyou.

Yeah, there will be no normality after this.

String
String
5 years ago

“Trump seems to have exhausted normal avenues.” Yes it seems that way. however look on the flip side – Trump quite clearly years ago, figured the Dem’s would not let 2020 go the same way as 2016. Quite some time ago, he could have pointed a few fingers, got a few low-level numpties out of the way and said, ‘hey look at what was going on here..’ there would have been a few “investigations”, a few slapped wrists, but then reverting back to type in a few years. Now – with things getting certified – there will be no going back. If the various Attorneys have the goods that are being reported, this is serious business, Federal crimes & RICO statutes come into play. Mafia-type sentences come into the equation: 50 years+ jail time, that sorta thing.

Does anyone else wonder why Biden was chosen? to say he was a poor candidate would be the biggest understatement since Mission control heard the words, ‘Houston we have a problem’. This is the guy who told WPVI in Philadelphia that covid-19 has “helped” his campaign; assaulted a young woman on the campaign trail when she asked him to name all the… Read more »

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  String

Yes – why would you pick such a weak candidate, when a Duracell Bunny might like Eluzaveth Warrenn might well have seen off Trump in an honest election ?

I think the answer must be the CCP chose him because a corrupt, very weak, “owned-by-China” Dem President would be perfect for China.

OKUK
5 years ago

I think the most damning part was the finding that while the data logs for pre-2020 elections were still on the system, the data log for the recent 2020 election had been wiped!! And still the DOJ and FBI under Barr found nothing to investigate! I always thought it funny the way he sailed through the Senate hearings after the disgusting fashion in which they’d treated other Trump nominees. Once CIA, always CIA.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago

The morons who have taken over the asylum are really out in force tonight.

I normally manage to avoid the BBC Propaganda Show, but was transfixed at its blatant spewing of nonsense bile tonight after catching its headlines.

Having earlier today added the latest ONS mortality figures to the running graph, the contradiction of reality was stark. Clearly the moron brigade are terrified that nothing will happen over Christmas, and they will be deprived of the ability to make the population jump like puppets on a string.

Rosie
Rosie
5 years ago

Been out with my leaflets in London today. Was going to write a long report but got diverted by reading atl and more. Then my mind was forgetting what i was going to say

Then read this from civiliannotcovidian

 No. The masks are evil. First they make people lose their voices, then their minds, then their humanity.
We HAVE to survive this. Act today. Do anything you can to remind someone, today, what is at stake. Practice random acts of humanity wherever you can. Call out the insanity. Don’t back down. Save the human race. STAY HUMAN!

This is the very conclusion I was going to say to you from my day. So I’ll try to explain.

Rosie
Rosie
5 years ago
Reply to  Rosie

I wanted to go out today, thinking that perhaps, the day before another lockdown, I’d get more interest. yes-and-no.

I had with me an antimasking leaflet and a BacktoNormal leaflet and a slip of paper about local groups. I encourage people to photograph them rather than take a page, thinking they might pass it on. Here’s the local group links in case anyone needs them. The Freedom Hubs site is for anywhere in the world.

Freedom Network
The Freedom Network is a non-political movement founded with the purpose of reclaiming freedoms taken away by the Coronavirus Act. The Network has established a series of ‘Freedom Hubs’ around the country which provide like-minded lockdown sceptics with an opportunity to make contact with one another.

http://www.thefreedomnetwork.co.uk

Back to Normal
Back to Normal is a leafleting campaign aimed at changing the public’s attitude about lockdowns. Back to Normal leaflets are designed for door-to-door distribution and are currently being distributed all over the country. E-mail [email protected] or visit my-sgf.co.uk for more information

Unlock (Oxford)
Unlock is a student-led campaign begun at Oxford University. The movement brands lockdowns as ‘irrational and inherently unfair’ and aims raise awareness about the damage they’re doing.

Unlock has a website,… Read more »

Rosie
Rosie
5 years ago
Reply to  Rosie

My question to strangers today was: “May I ask if you agree with lockdown?” About 50% of the people I addressed didn’t speak good enough English to understand this and I had to simplify/gesture.

All non-native speakers (other than oriental) did not agree.

Nearly all natives (and orientals) did agree – and I’m in little doubt that most or all of the orientals who say they agree with lockdown actually do agree. The more they looked to be indigenous Brits (ie of many generations), the more strongly they agreed – lockdown, masks and all.

I also went along the train carriage this time, speaking to people in their seats (none of the trains were full).

Regulars will recall that I have a severe mask phobia, looking at people in their masks can set me off into full panic attack meltdown. This obviously makes going out and talking to strangers difficult! I’m finding that I am building up a bit of tolerance, especially when (a) I’m not tired and (b) I can look at people sideways on – so going along the train aisle becomes doable.

To cut a long story short. The first person I asked seemed like… Read more »

DRW
DRW
5 years ago
Reply to  Rosie

Well said, I always make a point of positive engagement with fellow unmasked shoppers. Not much but it is nearly always greatly appreciated.

Rosie
Rosie
5 years ago
Reply to  DRW

Good for you and well done. Don’t underestimate the very great importance of that, DRW. Every small act of humanity is significant.

Rosie
Rosie
5 years ago
Reply to  Rosie

Like everyone here, I loath the masks for their dehumising effect, but my actual phobia seems to have two origins, one of them – a real need to be able to assess what the humans around me were going to do next, this as a child. It wasn’t a ‘safe’ environment. Being unable to read intention in people’s faces is extremely frightening for me.

I find that I am now able to distinguish people from their posture and forehead – if they are covicultists or human still. So this saves me time, ignore most of them.

During the learning process, I had some talk with some cultists. The way they all say the same thing! plus I think, other reports suggest as well, that they have taken to blatant lying. One today claimed she was a ‘virologist’ so I said then you must know about the human immune system. Immune system denier. Challenged her on asymptomatic transmission. I told her I doubted if she was a virologist. One weird thing, these people’s CERTAINTY.

Another came out with the killing old people line. I had a ready reply, that I am nearly 60 and have been bereaved many times. Will… Read more »

Rosie
Rosie
5 years ago
Reply to  Rosie

A few other points:

Work on HS2 going ahead in London, despite unneeded and destructive and vast expense. So ugly in every way. Parks and trees disappearing.

Many many homeless and beggars. Not aggressive, yet, edging towards it.

Passed two coppers walking the beat in an way that was ordinary a year ago, ordinary caps, no masks. I stood a little to the side, then said, “I always used to greet you.” They understood me immediately, responded very warmly, and wished me a merry Christmas.

My face was wearing a pained expression, habitual now. Later discussing with Graham how it is we distinguish covicultists from humans, he said the same thing, he’s right every time…and I think he was correct: that people wear pained expressions, their distress and unhappiness is apparent. Cultists’ brows are smooth, their faces emotionless blanks. A small percentage of cultists wear a worn-down fearful look, (not the same as as the pain) with huddled body language. One such, when I spoke to him, and pushed him just a bit, told me he was on his way to the cemetery. I doubted he was telling me the truth but acted as though he was, and did the… Read more »

penelope pitstop
penelope pitstop
5 years ago
Reply to  Rosie

well done Rosie – you are a star and very brave to approach strangers on a very divisive topic. It must be tiring to be on the front line for much of the day. Bravo!

Rosie
Rosie
5 years ago

Thank you Penelope. Graham my companion for the day can’t do this, but he can do many things that I can’t. We actually make a good team, as well as keeping one another sane. At one point he asked me a simple question, and my tears flowed – needed that. Many here do posters and stickers, which I can’t do either.

It is tiring indeed. Thanks for encouragement 🙂

Mabel Cow
Mabel Cow
5 years ago
Reply to  Rosie

It don’t know if it’s related, but apparently bilinguals are more likely to make rational, non-emotional decisions when the information is presented in their second language. It appears to be something to do with words learnt later in life having reduced emotional valence, meaning that the bilingual is less likely to be swayed by purely emotional arguments. And of course, the emotional, fear-based approach is the standard these days.

However, it might also be that they get their news from somewhere other than the BBC and so are less brainwashed.

Thank you for your continued efforts, Rosie. Keep fighting the good fight.

captainbeefheart
captainbeefheart
5 years ago
Reply to  Rosie

Top work Rosie.

I’m sure that you must have spoken to many covidians by now that you know what they will say next. I’ve found that conversations with them can almost be scripted. You’ll know exactly what they are going to say and you can have pre-prepared responses – because they’ve been brainwashed!

For example, if you were to say that the number of deaths are not unusual compared to other years, YOU JUST KNOW they’ll say “That’s because we locked down!”

If you then said “But Sweden, Japan etc”, they’ll probably say “Sweden has not got the same population density as us and all Japanese people wear masks”

Maybe someone needs to devise a flowchart…

Rosie
Rosie
5 years ago

Serious point, we do need a flow chart of replies. I tried to start work on it but then went back to other tasks. Crib sheets of best practice and best replies without doubt we need! Would save a lot of effort, and would I believe have some effect.

Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
5 years ago
Reply to  Rosie

If the lockdowns worked you would see clear dinks in the graphs for test positives to admissions to deaths. The lockdown date points are undetectable on the graphs. Viruses are impervious to distancing and lockdowns.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago

I take my hat off to Rosie, but this brainwashing isn’t amenable to rational argument.

All the success that I’ve had has been in terms of people who already had doubts, and with whom I’ve had contact over a long period, gradually feeding in evidence.

Leaving off at certain strategic times has also been important.

MDH
MDH
5 years ago

This from the residents’ association. I’d take part, but I’m expecting a headache.

We have news that on Sunday 20th December at about 5pm a Festive Procession of Light and Music will be winding its way into our neighbourhood to share seasonal joy and good cheer with us.

Join in with some Christmas singing from the comfort of your own doorstep or follow the procession (whilst adhering to social distancing rules).

There will be safety marshals to keep an eye on proceedings

Stephanos
Stephanos
5 years ago
Reply to  MDH

‘There will be safety marshals to keep an eye on proceedings’

This is despicable. I am not surprised that you might have a headache.

Cranmer
Cranmer
5 years ago
Reply to  MDH

I wonder how the Magi and the shepherds would have felt if they’d travelled all that way and then got told to ‘socially distance’ from His presence. They would probably have wondered why they bothered.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
5 years ago
Reply to  MDH

Kill the “safety marshals”!

DRW
DRW
5 years ago
Reply to  MDH

Sounds like a right barrel of laughs, will the marshalls have tape measures?

MDH
MDH
5 years ago
Reply to  DRW

I think it’s probably the same group of eejits who have been wearing their masks in the open air for weeks. I can’t work out if they are virtue signalling or genuinely think it’s a proportionate response to the risk they feel they’re at. And to be honest, I really couldn’t give a flying f*ck any longer. I’m selling up in the new year and leaving them to it. London’s just a playground for rich and idle fools now, waited on by the poor.

DRW
DRW
5 years ago
Reply to  MDH

I’ve thought the same about the whole country.

thinkaboutit
thinkaboutit
5 years ago
Reply to  MDH

We have something similar. Meeting outside the church, social distancing, wearing a face covering.
How the heck do you belt out carols with a mask on?

JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  MDH

If you drink enough beer beforehand, you could play a ‘trip up the safety marshall’ game.

penelope pitstop
penelope pitstop
5 years ago
Reply to  MDH

put your speakers outside and belt out at max volume the The Pogues’ Fairytale of New York Xmas song which apparently has been banned by the bbc …

Jay Berger
Jay Berger
5 years ago

“A welcome statement from the Nadhim Zahawi, the minister responsible for vaccinations. No plans for vaccine passports.”

It could be. Unless it’s newspeak.
And as a German, I am natural born sceptic regarding such statements:

‘No one has the intention to build a wall.’ Walter Ulbricht

‘With today’s knowledge, we wouldn’t have closed or close again the shops, restaurants and hairdressers.’ Jens Spahn (Germany’s Hancock in the summer)

But maybe it’s a truly genial Brexit impact reduction strategy: make the UK the refuge for all those people who don’t want to get vaccinated (and get enough points).
As those are by definition the enlightened, intelligent critical thinkers, that alone should raise the average IQ of the population above South Korea’s within a fortnight, and help to create a massive boom, competitiveness and innovation drive.
Similar to the USA taking in the prosecuted German and European Jews in the 1930s and ’40s.

Rosie
Rosie
5 years ago
Reply to  Jay Berger

It’s become the norm here. I first noticed it in connection with the Brexit debacle – I assume that whatever they say they won’t do, they will, a couple of months later.

anon
anon
5 years ago
Reply to  Rosie

it’s a technique out of the communism playbook

Nick Rose
Nick Rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Jay Berger

They didn’t build a wall, it was a “population retention enabler by means of vertical and explosive obstructions”.

John P
John P
5 years ago
Reply to  Jay Berger

It could be psychological manipulation. They may be seeding the idea in the public consciousness before implementing it.

Zahawi’s “no plans” statement in some ways might be the equivalent of saying “don’t think of a pink elephant”.

What they say they are doing is irrelevant. It’s the fact that they are saying anything at all about it that is important.

BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
5 years ago

Let me be perfectly clear: Donald J. Trump knows this, as does Fauci, Birx, Azar and everyone else. They killed over 150,000 people by ignoring the manifest weight of the evidence on purpose in order to keep their “preferred” path — that of a vaccine for which they knew they could not hit the endpoints for regular order licensing for several years — on track.

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=240934

Are there any left who actually have principles anymore? The swamp

theanalyst
theanalyst
5 years ago

Albert Einstein Quote

“Three great forces rule the world: stupidity, fear and greed.”

There are pictures and videos of random human beings who stand to gain from their stupidity, greed and fear, for example look at this news media web page…. but I wont post their pictures and videos. You can just click and see for yourself. Just an example. There are millions more every day.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9055851/Is-Sussex-brink-dragged-Tier-3.html

Bella
Bella
5 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

Brilliant, put all of Sussex into tier 3 despite ‘cases’ (bulishit) decreased by 2.58% in mid-Sussex. Why give us that crap, just fucking close everything and let us all starve to death psychologically and physically.

OKUK
5 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

Why did pacifist Albert Einstein encourage the US President to develop an atomic bomb? And why did pacifist Bertrand Russell propose dropping an atom bomb on Moscow in the late 1940s (he really did!).

It’s a bit like XR and Greta proposing policies that will lead to certain starvation or fatal disease for billions because they really care about humanity.

Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago

Watching a discussion with John le Carre on iPlayer (I know). He talks of the war on terror as a huge mistake. A philosophical battle fought over territory (twice). Useless, he says – “you might as well go to war with flu or something”.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago

No politician in the West can stand up and say that we live in a democracy and that we enjoy free speech. We simply don’t

Belarus and North Korea look more enticing by the day

John P
John P
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Belarus?

I generally regard the governments of China, North Korea and Turkmenistan as genuinely repressive regimes, but I’m less convinced about criticisms of countries like Belarus and Russia.

John P
John P
5 years ago

I think this is to do with the proposed “online harms” legislation.

This is nothing new. This was first publicised when Theresa May was Prime Minister.

crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
5 years ago

nothing much from the CRG since yesterday. There again they are distracted by wearing their ERG hats tonight.

John P
John P
5 years ago

Excellent discussion on Unlocked, discussing Sage and the lockdowns. Includes contributions from Dr Mike Yeadon:

https://www.facebook.com/unlockedunitedkingdom/videos/vb.112364983833705/179279657247591/?type=2&theater

John P
John P
5 years ago
Reply to  John P

Much of the debate involves discussion about the behavioural psychologists on Sage and their manipulation of the UK public.

crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
5 years ago
Reply to  John P

the behavioural psychologists have been busy on BBC radio news today.

John P
John P
5 years ago
Reply to  crimsonpirate

I generally avoid BBC fake news. They are manipulating people.

RickH
RickH
5 years ago
Reply to  John P

I think it’s worse : many of the participants are as brainwashed as their victims.

A lot of those ‘journalists’ don’t actually know what real journalism entails.

Same in the printed media.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago
Reply to  John P

‘Behavioural psychologists’ – or ‘psychos’ for short

John P
John P
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Wretches.

Liam
Liam
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Mental Mengeles.

DomW
DomW
5 years ago
Reply to  Ben

Dementors

JohnB
JohnB
5 years ago
Reply to  DomW

The Accused.

Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago
Reply to  John P

Highly unethical brand of science

cloud6
cloud6
5 years ago

Can you spot the funny test figures :

cumtests.png
Liam
Liam
5 years ago

It’s not that Lockdownism doesn’t work.

It’s just that true Lockdownism has never been tried.

This wasn’t real Lockdownism,

The problem is counter Lockdownist elements.

PoshPanic
PoshPanic
5 years ago
Reply to  Liam

If you haven’t watched already, the video of Peter Hitchens skewering Owen Jones is worth it for a laugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdi_pfVJvbA

Adamb
Adamb
5 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

Dear god, this is “Owen Jones” I keep hearing about in the media?? Seems more like a character from a sketch show.

Nobody2021
Nobody2021
5 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

Does he storm off in a huff?

Steven F
Steven F
5 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

Marvellous. Hitchens just kept brushing Jones away as though he were a mildly irritating insect.

DRW
DRW
5 years ago
Reply to  Liam

Another No True Scotsman fallacy.

Liam
Liam
5 years ago
Reply to  DRW

Yes.

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