Matt Hancock’s Bad Day at the Office
The Health Secretary didn’t have a good day yesterday.
It began with an interview on Good Morning Britain in which Piers Morgan attacked him unrelentingly for refusing to appear on the programme for the previous 201 days.
“Do you think it’s right and proper than in the biggest health crisis this country has faced for a hundred years, that you as Health Secretary and the entire Cabinet and the prime Minister have boycotted a big morning breakfast television programme and our viewers for six months?” asked Piers. “Did you support the boycott? Did you agree with it?”
Gurning and waffling didn’t really cut it. After cataloging all the health failures on Hancock’s watch, Piers told him he should resign.
That was followed directly afterwards by an appearance on Julia Hartley Brewer’s talkRADIO show in which she pressed him on whether the Government had “ruled out” a mandatory mass vaccination programme.
“Honestly, I’ve learnt not to rule things out during this pandemic because you have to watch what happens and you have to make judgements accordingly,” he said.
That surely wasn’t part of the script? It generated headlines afterwards, such as this one in the Telegraph: “Matt Hancock refuses to rule out making coronavirus vaccine mandatory.”
He then had to step in for Boris at the Downing Street briefing, where he made a series of implausible claims, including that “the virus remains a potent threat… not just to the oldest and the most vulnerable but to anyone of any age and of any background…”
Eh? As I pointed out yesterday, 88% of those who’ve died so far in Scotland are aged 70 or over and only 8% of the people who’ve succumbed to the virus have had no underlying health condition. According to John Ioannidis, Professor of Medicine at Stanford, the infection fatality rate for healthy under-70s is 0.05% – hardly a “potent threat”.
Worse was Hancock’s admission that it was “too early to know” whether the second lockdown would end on December 2nd, or whether some areas might be plunged into Tier 4 restrictions on December 3rd, prompting an angry exchange afterwards between the Prime Minister and member of the Covid Recovery Group. The Telegraph has the details.
Conservative MPs have blasted the “grim” and “terrible” suggestion that lower tiers could be “strengthened” after national lockdown is lifted, with Boris Johnson on another collision course with his backbenchers.
Tories had hoped for a general loosening of restrictions ahead of Christmas, with those in the lower tiers particularly aggrieved at the blanket measures.
Hancock claimed daily cases were still rising, comparing the daily average last week with the daily average the week before. But as Carl Heneghan pointed out on Twitter, the latest ONS infection survey suggests otherwise.
Mass Testing – an Unevaluated, Underdesigned, and Costly Mess
Mike Gill, a former regional director of Public Health England, and Muir Gray, a visiting professor at the Nuffield Department of Primary Care Health Sciences at Oxford, didn’t pull their punches in an editorial for the BMJ about the Government’s £100 billion mass testing programme.
With incidence across Liverpool already falling, attributing and quantifying any additional effect from the programme may prove complex. Instead, similar programmes are being rolled out across the country to universities and local authorities even before this pilot is complete.
The queues of people seeking tests in Liverpool suggest the initial acceptability of this pilot is high, at least to some. Its ethical basis, however, looks shaky. The council claims, wrongly, that the test detects infectiousness and is accurate. In fact, if used alone it will lead to many incorrect results with potentially substantial consequences. The context for gaining consent has been tarnished by the enthusiasm of some local officials and politicians. In the case of schools, the programme has been culpably rushed: parents have had to respond unreasonably promptly to a request to opt out if they do not want their child screened.
There is no protocol for this pilot in the public domain, let alone systems specification or ethical approval. The public has had no chance to contribute, as required by the UK standards for public involvement in research.
Spending the equivalent of 77% of the NHS annual revenue budget on an unevaluated underdesigned national programme leading to a regressive, insufficiently supported intervention – in many cases for the wrong people – cannot be defended. The experience of the National Screening Committee and National Institute for Health Research (NIHR) tells us that allowing testing programmes to drift into use without the right system in place leads to a mess, and the more resources invested the bigger the mess. This system should be designed with up to 10 clear objectives to deliver the aim of reducing the impact of covid—for example, to identify cases more quickly or to mitigate the effects of deprivation on risk of infection and poor outcomes. Progress in each objective (or lack of it) should be measured against explicit criteria. Screening programmes based on experience and on the literature relating to complex adaptive systems offer a model for rapid progress.
At a minimum, there should be an immediate pause, until the fundamental building blocks of this mass testing programme have been externally and independently scrutinised by the National Screening Committee and NIHR. In the meantime, nobody’s freedom or behaviour should be made contingent on having had a novel rapid test.
Worth reading in full.
Stop Press: A panel of scientists form universities in Newcastle, Birmingham, Warwick and Bristol sounded the alarm yesterday about the dangers of mass testing. The Mail has more.
They described it as the “most unethical use of public funds for screening” they’ve ever seen and claimed it had the potential to “actually do a lot of harm”.
The panel said it was telling that population screening for COVID-19 has not been endorsed by the World Health Organization (WHO) or the Government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE).
At a virtual press conference today, Professor Allyson Pollock, clinical professor of public health at the University of Newcastle, said: “The evidence for screening is not there.
“The evidence around the tests is poor and weak at the moment, and needs to be improved.
“We’re arguing the moonshot programme really should be paused, until the cost effectiveness and the value for money of any of these programmes is well established.”
Also worth reading in full.
Is the Pandemic Machine Similar to the German War Machine in 1914?
What follows is a guest post by longtime contributor Guy de la Bédoyère.
Reading the interview with the epidemiologist Tom Jefferson in Der Spiegel flagged up in Lockdown Sceptics yesterday really made me think. When he said:
The WHO and public health officials, virologists and the pharmaceutical companies. They’ve built this machine around the impending pandemic. And there’s a lot of money involved, and influence, and careers, and entire institutions! And all it took was one of these influenza viruses to mutate to start the machine grinding.
I was instantly reminded of Germany’s Schlieffen Plan. Human beings always want to plan for the future, offset future disasters, protect the population and so on – and it’s usually for the best possible reasons. The Schlieffen Plan had a totally different purpose in mind. It was supposed to protect Germany in a war with France.
In 1914 the Plan was all set up and ready to go and had been since Count Alfred von Schlieffen had dreamed it up in 1906. Except that the circumstances in 1914 weren’t what Schlieffen had quite imagined. A Serb had killed the Archduke Franz-Ferdinand, heir to the throne of Austro-Hungary, in Sarajevo. The Austro-Hungarians were outraged and threatened war. Russia said it would support the Serbs. The Germans said they would support the Austro-Hungarians. It looked like Germany was about to go to war with Russia – but France was Russia’s ally and that meant – wait for it – that Germany might have to go to war with France.
And that’s when the Schlieffen Plan came off the shelf and how a conflict that started in Sarajevo ended with a war between Germany and France, leading to four years of unbelievable brutality and bloodshed, millions killed and a fallout that echoes down to today via the Second World War. Let’s not forget that huge amounts of money were involved – every one of the belligerents believed they could get the defeated enemies to pick up the bill. They all got that wrong: the world has been paying for the Great War ever since.
No, that’s not a bit like dealing with a pandemic. Of course it isn’t. But it’s a real warning from history about overplanning in advance of circumstances that will always be unrecognizably different from what actually happens. Then put in charge the sort of people who can only operate to a rule book and the scene is set for believing that just following the bullet points means the problem will be sorted. Instead, the pit just gets dug deeper and deeper, positions get entrenched, money gets spent. But perhaps that’s just the way human beings are. I’m not suggesting for a moment the intentions aren’t sincere.
I have a creeping feeling that however things look right now, when our descendants look back on this time in the decades to come, there’s a more than sporting chance that just like us looking back at 1914 they’ll be saying, “What on earth were they thinking?”
Just imagine how different everything would have been if the powers that were had got together at Xmas 1914 and said: “This is absurd, let’s stop now and rethink it all – there’s no point in destroying the world.” But they didn’t. They just ploughed on to save face.
Government Admits It’s Been Miscounting Cases – Again
Oh dear. Public Health England announced yesterday that NHS Test and Trace has been wrongly identifying the location of people testing positive, using their address on the NHS database rather than the location where they’ve been tested. Until recently, there wasn’t much discrepancy – only 4% of people were living in a different area to the place they got tested, according to PHE. But between September 1st and October 12th, this increased to 12% of cases, driven mostly by younger people aged 17 to 21 relocating from their homes to universities.
The upshot is that the number of positive cases per 100,000 has been inflated in London, while the cases per 100,000 in university towns has been understated.
The Evening Standard identified this problem over a month ago, running a story on October 12th pointing out that the number of cases in Richmond had jumped by an implausibly large amount at exactly the same time that term started at universities.
The coronavirus rate jumped in the borough to 130.8 new cases per 100,000 population in the week to October 8th (259 cases), compared with 78.8 (156 cases) for the previous seven days, according to an analysis.
Borough chiefs believe a significant part of the rise in recent weeks, possibly more than 16%, may be due to students from Richmond at universities in other cities around the country, including Leeds, Exeter, Manchester and Durham, being included in its figures.
One obvious question is whether London needed to move from Tier 1 to Tier 2 towards the end of October, given that the number of positive cases in London was being inflated by this glitch. At the time, Sadiq Khan told the London Assembly that the decision was based on “expert public health and scientific advice”. But was the Mayor aware that the students who were pushing the numbers up were located in cities like Leeds, Exeter, Manchester and Durham rather than the capital? I doubt it.
According to a well-informed Twitter thread by Dr Duncan Robertson, a Fellow of St Catherine’s College, Oxford who specialises in COVID-19 modelling and analysis, this was a cock-up by the commercial company NHS Test and Trace hired to run the programme and can’t really be laid at the door of PHE. “It is unfortunate that PHE are making this statement as opposed to NHS Test and Trace or DHSC (who is responsible), as the error appears to have been with the methodology employed by commercial DHSC Test and Trace,” he Tweeted. Presumably, Hancock and co thought it would be prudent for PHE to take the blame because the agency is due for the chop shortly.
The Law Commission Wants New Blasphemy Law by the Back Door
Andrew Tettenborn, Professor of Law at Swansea University, appeared on Julia Hartley Brewer’s talkRADIO show yesterday morning to raise the alarm about the Law Commission’s new hate crime proposals. According to Andrew – a member of the Free Speech Union’s Legal Advisory Council – if these proposals become law an author of a novel like The Satanic Verses could be jailed for seven years.
You can read the Free Speech Union’s briefing document about these dreadful, anti-free speech proposals here.
Why is the Medicines Regulator Seeking an AI Software Tool to Process Vaccine Side Effects?
Several readers have alerted me to a recent invitation to tender by the medicines regulator that seems to suggest the Government is expecting a huge number of negative reactions to the Covid vaccines. I asked the Lockdown Sceptics test and trace correspondent – who tracked the failure of the NHSX Covid-tracking app for us – what this was all about and whether it was cause for concern.
There has been some excitement over an announcement spotted in the Official Journal of the EU by the UK Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA):
MHRA urgently seeks an Artificial Intelligence (AI) software tool to process the expected high volume of Covid-19 vaccine Adverse Drug Reaction (ADRs) and ensure that no details from the ADRs’ reaction text are missed.
Adverse Drug Reaction? Expected high volumes? Is this playing into the hands of the vaccine conspiracy theorists? Not so fast. The actual story is a familiar one in this pandemic response: failure of Government planning, wasted money and a last minute dash to build an IT system, all summarised rather nicely in the announcement itself:
Award of a contract without prior publication of a call for competition in the Official Journal … Reasons of extreme urgency — the MHRA recognises that its planned procurement process for the SafetyConnect programme, including the AI tool, would not have concluded by vaccine launch.
The collection and analysis of Adverse Drug Reactions (ADRs) is a standard part of all drug development. Pharma companies employ hundreds of experts in “Patient Safety” teams and numerous IT systems and processes to handle it, and it is partly why drug development takes so long and costs so much. But if that is done by the drug companies then why does the UK regulator, MHRA, need its own ADR processing system?
The scrutiny of drugs does not stop when they get a license. Following the thalidomide tragedy in the 1960s, the WHO set-up adverse event [AE] vigilance systems in countries like the UK. Here it is called the Yellow Card scheme. You may never have heard of it, but there have been over 700,000 ADRs submitted since it was established. With the number of adverse events increasing dramatically each year, pharma companies and regulators are reaching the limits of what people can do accurately and efficiently. Heaping the nation’s largest ever mass vaccination campaign onto the regulator’s human based systems was not going to work. A problem for AI to solve? Perhaps Matt Hancock’s £250m National AI Lab, announced in August 2019, could help? Indeed MHRA were onto a similar idea as early as Oct 2018 when their board said:
MHRA has been encouraged to put forward bids to several government programmes for funding/ external resources to explore the utility of artificial intelligence (AI) to deliver enhanced vigilance capability.
Nearly two years later and how has the time and money been spent? Not all that productively it seems as on Sept 14th EU procurement rules had to be bypassed as a £1.5 million contract was urgently awarded to GenPact (UK) to process an estimated 25,000 to 50,000 ADR reports over a six- to 12-month period. Even then, the MHRA said the system would not be ready for the vaccine launch date.
Someone should tell Kate Bingham, chair of the UK’s vaccine task force, who said the use of AI was “just what the MHRA should be doing”, adding that the UK is “incredibly well set up to do this given we all have NHS records which are electronic and connected”. Err, no we don’t. Connecting all patient records in the NHS was the NPfIT programme, which cost £12.7 billion before being cancelled and described by a House of Commons enquiry as “one of the worst and most expensive contracting fiascos ever”.
Still, I am sure it will be different this time.
Why is Sweden Imposing Restrictions When ICU Admissions are Falling?
What follows is a guest post by Will Jones.
Stefan Löfven, the Swedish Prime Minister, has announced he will pass a law to ban public gatherings of eight people or more.
“Do your duty,” he said. “Do not go to the gym, do not go to the library, do not have parties. Do not come up with excuses that would make your activity OK. It is your and my choices – every single day, every single hour, every single moment – that will now determine how we manage this.”
This shift in strategy to a nationally enforced “Rule of 8” does not appear to have the backing of state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, who has said he wants to use the same no-lockdown approach for the “second wave” as he did for the first.
Perhaps the PM is listening instead to Fredrik Elgh, Professor of Virology at Umeå University, who recently claimed Sweden is two weeks away from surpassing the first wave’s peak hospitalisations. Has he not noticed that ICU admissions are currently in decline? And does he not recall that the health service coped fine in the spring?
Prof Elgh also noted that lockdowns appear to have worked in Belgium and the Czech Republic. But it’s cherry-picking data to look just at two countries where a decline happened to coincide with restrictions.
What about the fact that Sweden’s first wave declined with no lockdown, while in the UK the R rate dropped below 1 before lockdown both in the spring and in the autumn?
Why is the country introducing lockdown measures now, when there is nothing to indicate an autumn out of the ordinary? It may be because the country had hoped to have a milder autumn surge than they are experiencing. But that disappointment doesn’t change the basic parameters, which is that Covid has not been responsible for more than a medium to severe flu season anywhere, whatever restrictions have been applied. The graph below illustrates this point perfectly, showing Sweden’s 2019-2020 flu season death toll scarcely higher than earlier years. Not locking down does not result in a death toll much beyond the normal range, and most of those who die are already past the average life expectancy.
Lockdown zealots have recently taken to arguing that Sweden is so different to the UK and the rest of Europe that its example is of no practical relevance. They claim, for example, that Sweden has lower population density than the UK. But they fail to mention that most of it is empty space and that Sweden is in fact a more urbanised country than the UK (87.7% vs 83.4%). They also omit to note Stockholm has a similar population density to London.
They argue Sweden has more single occupancy households (39% vs 28%), but fail to mention that that translates to 17.8% and 15% of the population respectively so isn’t really significant.
They argue Swedes are a more naturally compliant people who studiously follow all the guidance so don’t need coercive rules. However, Stockholm in April was notorious for young people crowding into nightclubs and cafes while the rest of the world locked down. Karolinska Institute immunologist Marcus Buggert was quoted in the BMJ in September saying social distancing in Sweden was “always poorly followed, and it’s only become worse”. Conversely, Brits have been surprisingly conformist (and fearful of the virus), especially in the first lockdown.
In terms of the unfavourable comparison of Sweden to the death rates of its neighbours, that appears to be largely a result of a run of mild flu seasons in the country, leaving more “dry tinder” (older people vulnerable to respiratory infections), which is why 70% of Covid deaths in Sweden occurred in nursing homes.
What a shame that the chin-wobbling Swedish politicians seem at this late stage to have developed a hunger for locking down. Whatever restrictions they now impose though, Sweden remains an important demonstration of what happens when a country refuses to lock down. Sweden may not want to heed the lessons of its own example, but others can.
Round-Up
- “Denmark throws epidemic law in the bin” – Great news out of Denmark yesterday. Its proposed new epidemic law, which would have given Danish health authorities the power to force people to be vaccinated, among other horrors, has been scrapped after several days of protests outside the Danish Parliament
- “Children must be excluded from ‘rule of six’ over Christmas, MPs say” – MPs are demanding children are excluded so traditional family Christmases can go ahead
- “The ‘nanny-in-chief’ is wide of the mark on Covid and obesity” – Christopher Snowdon in CapX says Dame Sally Davies is wrong about obesity being a major factor in Britain’s above-average Covid death toll
- “Medical Doctor Warns that ‘Bacterial Pneumonias Are on the Rise’ from Mask Wearing” – American doctor suspects bacterial pneumonias are becoming more common and blames face masks
- “Can We Challenge the Official Covid Vaccination Narrative?” – Niall McCrae on why not everyone who has reservations about the safety and effectiveness of the Covid vaccine should be dismissed as an “anti-vaxxer”
- “The Moderna vaccine offers more hope” – Ross Clark in the Spectator says the Moderna vaccine looks, at first blush, to be better than the Pfizer/BioNTech one
- “Boris’s ludicrous self-isolation has brutally exposed the idiocy of test and trace” – And here’s Clark in the Telegraph pointing out how absurd it is that the PM has been asked to self-isolate given that, in his own words, he’s “bursting with antibodies”
- “Fear, not data, shapes the public’s view of COVID-19” – The Telegraph‘s Tim Stanley says our response to the virus has been hysterical, even though we have access to more data than ever before
- “Who’ll grab the steering wheel from out-of-control Johnson?” – Coruscating profile of the Prime Minister by Daniel Miller in the Conservative Woman
- “If Sacha Baron Cohen wants to ‘stop hate for profit’, why is he still making jokes at Kazakhstan’s expense?” – Excellent comment piece about Sacha Baron Cohen’s hypocrisy by Noah Carl in RT
- “Scotland’s largest teaching union issues strike warning and demands return to part-time schooling” – Down tools, comrades. In the incredibly unlikely event of one of us catching Covid, there’s a 0.05% chance we’ll die. Time to throw the kids under a bus
- “Angela Merkel faces rebellion from regional leaders over Covid rules” – Regional leaders openly accuse the German leader of trying to bounce them into accepting a detailed set of new restrictions
- “Labour’s plan to censor anti-vaxxers would only make things worse” – Good piece by Benedict Spence on why censorship will not allay the fears of vaccine worrywarts
- “We don’t have the luxury of being semi-locked down until vaccine is rolled out” – Excellent leader in yesterday’s Sun
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Just one today: “Highway to Hell” by AC/DC.
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
Sharing stories: Some of you have asked how to link to particular stories on Lockdown Sceptics. The answer used to be to first click on “Latest News”, then click on the links that came up beside the headline of each story. But we’ve changed that so the link now comes up beside the headline whether you’ve clicked on “Latest News” or you’re just on the Lockdown Sceptics home page. Please do share the stories with your friends and on social media.
Woke Gobbledegook
We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, I’m flagging up Christiane Amanpour’s bizarre comparison of Donald Trump’s four-year term with Kristallnacht, the infamous night in 1938 in which the Nazi Party and its supporters ransacked Jewish schools and hospitals, damaged or destroyed over 7,000 Jewish-owned businesses, arrested 30,000 Jewish men and murdered at least 90.
“This week, 82 years ago, Kristallnacht happened,” Amanpour said at the top of her CNN show last Thursday.
It was the Nazis’ warning shot across the bow of our human civilization that led to genocide against a whole identity. And, in that tower of burning books, it led to an attack on fact, knowledge, history and truth.
After four years of a modern-day assault on those same values by Donald Trump, the Biden/Harris team pledges a return to norms, including the truth. And, every day, Joe Biden makes presidential announcements about good governance and the health and security of the American people, while the great brooding figure of his defeated opponent rages, conducting purges of perceived enemies and preventing a transition.
CNN hasn’t exactly been pro-Trump for the last four years, but even by the network’s partisan standards this was over-the-top. To compare Trump’s Presidency to Kristallnacht is to wildly exaggerate his sins – the ultimate example of Trump Derangement Syndrome – and, at the same time, minimise the crimes committed by the Nazis on that terrible night.
Not surprisingly, top Israeli officials have demanded an apology, according to the Jerusalem Post.
Diaspora Affairs Minister Omer Yankelevitch said on Sunday that the US news network “should be a partner in the global effort to fight antisemitism and not fuel the fire”.
“Using the memory of the Holocaust for cheap headlines or a political agenda is concerning and distorts the historical and moral truth,” Yankelevitch said.
Stop Press: Liz Truss has been accused of “gross negligence” by a Lib Dem MP after appointing David Goodhart, a member of the Free Speech Union’s Advisory Council, to the Equality and Human Rights Commission. His sin? To describe the claim that Britain is systemically racist as “statistically naive”.
Stop Press 2: There’s a good piece in the Times on the difficulties various companies have got themselves into by trying to appear woke.
Stop Press 3: Suzanne Moore has left the Guardian, presumably forced out as a result of dissenting from woke orthodoxy. Watch me sticking up for her in a ding-dong with Owen Jones on Sky News a few months ago.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (takes a while to arrive). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £1.99 from Etsy here. And, finally, if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.
If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you want be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.
And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry.
Mask Censorship: The Swiss Doctor has translated the article in a Danish newspaper about the suppressed Danish mask study. Largest RCT on the effectiveness of masks ever carried out. Rejected by three top scientific journals so far.
Stop Press: Joe Biden, in his first economic address since the election, said he supported a national mask mandate to help curb the rise of the virus.
The Great Barrington Declaration
The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched last month and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you Googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and my Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)
You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over 650,000 signatures.
Update: The authors of the GDB have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.
Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.
Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.
Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”.
Judicial Reviews Against the Government
There are now so many JRs being brought against the Government and its ministers, we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.
First, there’s the Simon Dolan case. You can see all the latest updates and contribute to that cause here.
Then there’s the Robin Tilbrook case. You can read about that and contribute here.
Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.
There’s the GoodLawProject’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here.
The Night Time Industries Association has instructed lawyers to JR any further restrictions on restaurants, pubs and bars and is challenging the 10pm curfew. The hearing date is set for December 3rd, the day after we come out of lockdown.
Christian Concern and over 100 church leaders are JR-ing the Government over its insistence on closing churches during the lockdowns. Read about it here.
And last but not least there’s the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. You can read about that and make a donation here.
Samaritans
If you are struggling to cope, please call Samaritans for free on 116 123 (UK and ROI), email jo@samaritans.org or visit the Samaritans website to find details of your nearest branch. Samaritans is available round the clock, every single day of the year, providing a safe place for anyone struggling to cope, whoever they are, however they feel, whatever life has done to them.
Quotation Corner
It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
Mark Twain
Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.
Charles Mackay
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he’s doing is good, or else that it’s a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions…
Ideology – that is what gives the evildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
No lesson seems to be so deeply inculcated by the experience of life as that you never should trust experts. If you believe the doctors, nothing is wholesome: if you believe the theologians, nothing is innocent: if you believe the soldiers, nothing is safe. They all require to have their strong wine diluted by a very large admixture of insipid common sense.
Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury
Nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get into the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man, who knows where it hurts, is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialist.
Sir Winston Churchill
If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science.
Richard Feynman
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C.S. Lewis
The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.
Albert Camus
We’ve arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We have also arranged things so that almost no one understands science and technology. This is a prescription for disaster. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.
Carl Sagan
Political language – and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists – is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.
George Orwell
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Top o’ the morning.
https://twitter.com/DarrenPlymouth/status/1328422535680192512/photo/1
Dear Lockdown
You must write to your MP and ask them to stop the Great Reset
– If you’re writing to a Labour MP call it the Great Capitalist Reset
This Is How Great Reset Will End Western Democracies
Mahyar Tousi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk2W7rOFatg
And if writing to a Conservative MP, call it the Great Marxist Reset.
The left have totally hoodwinked by tbe Ahern, Biden, Tredeau types.
Wasn’t aware Bertie Ahern was a lockdown zealot: don’t you mean Jacinda Ardern?
You forgot Madge Hancock’s hero, Chairman Kim Jong Dan of Victoria, Australia.
Yes.. agreed.. just like the Bolsheviks were with their Russian Revolution. The usual suspects were funding it and then pulled the rug when things quite go to plan. Bankers eh!.. who’d have em..
If writing to an MP, stick to the facts of what has been done and the implications for physical, mental, economic and social health.
Demand a change of course, but avoid triggers like “Reset” etc which might be counterproductive.
Keep it polite; keep it brief – better two shorter, narrowly focussed letters than one long rambling one.
Address the recipient correctly. Each MP’s preferred form of address is given as part of their contact information at https://members.parliament.uk/members/Commons
I was advised by one of my family who has to deal with MPs in a professional capacity to type a letter, print it, manually write the salutation “Dear <name>” , sign it, then scan and email (or post) it.
That’s the ideal – more work, but it’s the preferred standard.
It’s been working for me – so far.
Good advice.
Lengthy ranting is a waste of breath, time and energy.
The problem that I find is that MPs are so sucked into the narrative that unpicking their assumptions is difficult in a short space.
but the world economic forum call it The great Reset
https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/
MPs don’t work for us. They naively believe they’ve been promised a seat at the World Economic Forum’s table (they haven’t)
No, they’ll possibly pick up a few crumbs, but then they’ll be down and out just like the rest of us (if they have their way, which they won’t)
https://dailysceptic.org/2020/11/17/latest-news-196/#comment-250767
A cartel monopolism has corrupted capitalism from the outset. It is a kind of corporate socialism that is overtly associated with Fascism, but can and does operate any and many faces or fronts – such as to exercise controlling interests through any and every vector of influence.
Part of its ability to set up polarised narrative identities, is the funding, and promoting of its own ‘opposition’.
Thus arenas of contained or open conflict feed a hidden third party.
The underlying pattern of such corruption is within us, even if manifesting as a world to which we are subjected.
The masking of grievance coupled in fear of pain of loss, presents the face of control, set in the judgements from which an identity is maintained.
To suppress corruption at the level of symptoms without addressing the underlying causes within us, is to persist in masking corruption in ever more insidious deceits of control – such as ‘the great reset’.
Corruption is firstly a false currency of identification. Evil is derivative.
The quickness to first accuse in the other, or to pre-empt their own frame of defence is a ‘woke’ facade of fear and guilt driven grievance that has all the power given it by fear, guilt and vengeance.
But awakening is the gift of noticing within the moment of the gift of a freely and naturally or spontaneously shared existence, and no personal claim at all.
The willingness to align in the grace of our being has to be desired despite the lock-down to a fear-defined sense of personal claim set over and against a life betrayed under self-illusory deceits – given priority.
My token MP would not see or read anything addressed him, nor grasp this if he did, but I can expand my sense of natural desire to root for his waking up to his true need in the way that he can begin to recognise, despite the seemingly overwhelming and inescapable sense of self, life and world that locks him in a masking necessity of conformity and compliance – even to lose the little that he hath.
However, what you write from your heart – you are extending as a gift of witness and communication regardless whether another accepts the gift now or later. What we give we strengthen in our selves. What we choose NOT to give, fades from non use. The idea of communication as leverage and weapon turns our own mind against itself (us). And so I write this in the spirit of a gift shared, to your freedom to alight in what resonates true for where you are now and what is relevant for who you are accepting yourself to be.
There is a ‘reset’ underway that the woke mask seeks to usurp and control.
Self-illusion yields to truth as a result of its own internal conflicts going forth and multiplying to the point of insanity and collapse. In which case we will not do more than persist the same themes under magical ‘redefinitions’ of leveraged ‘incentive’ unless we uncover them to a true resolution in the foundation of our being – which is a gift that knows itself in the sharing and cannot see in the idea of possession and control taken for a self set over and apart in judgement.
Hi Binra
You are obviously a CIM advocate. I would like to talk to you about this perspective. Can you email me please: jclfind@mac.com
Good afternoon Binra.
‘What we give we strengthen in our selves. What we choose NOT to give, fades from non use.’ This is lovely.
It is. Thanks
Dear Barney
** Denmark Says NO To Lockdown Law & Government Relent #PeoplePower **
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zadErfQ2pMY
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4436
Spending the equivalent of 77% of the NHS annual revenue budget on an unevaluated underdesigned national programme leading to a regressive, insufficiently supported intervention—in many cases for the wrong people—cannot be defended. The experience of the National Screening Committee and National Institute for Health Research (NIHR) tells us that allowing testing programmes to drift into use without the right system in place leads to a mess, and the more resources invested the bigger the mess.
Good morning to you Barney
New face mask that kills 90% of the Covid could be available by December.
The anti viral face cover features a fluid repellent outer layer which
“reduces the inhalation of droplets”(
).
There is also a copper lining which kills the virus if it comes into contact with it.
‘When will it be available to the buy (sic)?’
The masks go into production in late November and will be commercially available (£1.00 each) in December.
Brought to us by Dr Gareth Cave who is a nanotechnology expert and scientist at Nottingham Trent University.
Oh, and they also kill off 90% of the flu. Isn’t technology marvellous.
H/T ITV online >central>health>coronovirus.
A fluid repellent outer layer that inhibits the inhalation of droplets?
Droplets coming from another person, then.
But zombies wear the current face nappies so that their droplets can’t get out and travel to other people.
Obviously they are wasting their time – as if we didn’t know.
Copper, BTW, is toxic at more than minimal levels in the human body. I don’t know if having it clamped over your mouth and nose is a good idea or not.
Hence the quotation marks and (
) Annie.
Yuk, indeed.
Let’s guess ”not” to be on the safe side.
Is this not a backhanded way of confirming that masks don’t work?
DO NOT COVER YOUR SOURCE OF OXYGEN!
I wonder if people muzzled up to the eyeballs in the open air ever consider that people with respiratory problems are given oxygen.
Nature got there first.
Silk is hydrophobic and contains copper, to stop the baby silk worm from getting diseased and going mouldy.
Silk has also been used for sutures, as it eventually dissolves in the body. By contrast, cotton absorbs moisture and grows fungi, and as for microplastics, inhaling these is not good for you long term.
Moral – the Government should issue us all with free Hermes scarves, which would be much cheaper than the current measures.
The Egyptians knew a thing or two about the medical efficacy of copper but I don’t recall if it’s effective against virus, bacteria or both.
Like the copper doorknobs in hospitals that were replaced with stainless steel ones.
And cruise ships.
So, after all these months I’ve been inveighing against the mask law, it seems there really is a way to persuade me to accept the barmy practice with enthusiasm! Yes, kindly deliver my state-issue Hermes scarf. I’ll have the Jardins de Soie Shawl 140 in vert/rose/blanc (£880), please.
She had won the victory over herself. She loved Matt Hancock.
Can I have my tax payer funded face covering in the form of a full set of shirts, underwear, pyjamas and bedding, please?
Still not going to put it over my face, though.
Fie upon thee, selling thy soul to an Rsoul for a silk scarf!
Actually £880 per head would be a bargain, compared with the billions squandered on useless testing.
Well, the old champagne socialists used to say that under communism, every car would be a Rolls Royce. Looks like every scarf will be a Hermes scarf as well!
There is no virus
There is – but the hype is infinitely more dangerous.
How do you know there is a virus, where’s your proof or is it just belief?
You may be better to use terrain theory to contextualise what you may believe you are saying but which will not be received.
Psycho-pathological anthropomorphism is the miraculous capacity of mind-extending or projecting meanings – that are self-attacking contradictory or insane, as a means to construct a world from doublethink as if a unity – set in and of itself – rather than inhering or inheriting its qualities directly – or miraculously – as in unself-conscious joy that need take no thought for itself.
The mind-virus underpins the way we see ourselves, each other and our world.
Interpreting all things to a dogmatically held masking narrative by which we think to aggrandise, save or protect our ‘self’.
This is obvious to that the humans are the virus being ‘controlled’ – and inducement to fear and guilt is the underling directive backed by coercion and threat, under masking in ‘concern’ that conceal an immediate outrage if openly challenged.
The love that turns to hate is not love, but the masking over a hate that cannot abide itself.
I will not say there is no hate, toxic thinking or evil, but that these are derivatives of a profound mis-identification, running headless – or rather running ahead without any real relational connection to its terrain – and therefore pathological or limiting and destructive to life.
The belief that any virus is in and of itself ’cause’ is false.
But as a cover story or mask over toxic debt is deemed too big to fail and so is always fed with more sacrifice rather than released to allow a true re-evaluation.
Our model or narrative filters, distorts or determines what we perceive and sets the range of our response.
‘The love that turns to hate is not love, but the masking over a hate that cannot abide itself.’ As when the covid zealots issue fluffy injunctions to ‘be kind’ before trying to force a mask over my face by law and shouting at me in public when I don’t comply.
The virus isn’t alive. One cannot kill something that is not alive.
Don’t shoot the messenger please Steve.
OK, I think “destroys the virus” would be a better phrasing.
Deters the virus?
Are there any nanobots scurrying about in the mask’s material?
Apartheid Britain
“Please pay at the window if you don’t have a face covering”
Shame on you (major supermarket petrol station). The blurry bit in the attached image explains that face coverings are mandatory unless you are exempt or have reasonable excuse not to.
Naturally I ignored this demand to be a second class citizen and the staff couldn’t care less.
Maybe it’s time to stop calling them ‘gas’ stations…
Well, an American would say ‘gas station’, whereas I would probably just say ‘garage’. So what though? Here’s a good book on British and American English variants, beautifully written, and one which explodes a lot of myths: http://www.theprodigaltongue.com
Nice find. Thanks for the terrific link! The vocabulary between the two great variants seems to differ more than average in the area of transport. My American relatives smile at my use of ‘bonnet’, for example.
My American friend didn’t know what a ‘lorry’ was.
You’ve got to forgive them: they are only ex-colonials.
My driving instructor always used the word ‘gas’ because it took less time to say, and fast reactions were of the essence when teaching somebody like me to handle a potentially lethal machine.
Gas! sure beats accelerator pedal. And accelérateur in French. Too late.
Thanks, looks good, on the Christmas list
I thought so, there are a lot of books out there on ‘popular linguistics’, and an awful lot of them are pretty dire. This one struck me as an exception. (BTW I am not on any commission from the author! LOL).
The problem with using “gas” to mean motor fuel is that it’s inconsistent with the long-established terminology of solid, liquid, gas for the three phases of matter.
The problem with using ‘garage’ to mean a place that sells petrol is that it’s inconsistent with the long-established meaning “A building or indoor space in which to park or keep a motor vehicle”.
How do the British manage not to get completely mixed up, and confuse one with the other, going out to look for petrol in their garages?
We avoid that problem by using the phrase that a four-year-old taught me; “petrol shop”.
Out of the mouths of babes…
which supermarket?
Another one with a death wish.
Boycott!
My local Shell garage has had the same sign up since masks were made “mandatory”. I’ve never seen anyone pay it the slightest heed.
Do they want the money or don’t they?
You get the petrol before they get the money.
more about arse-covering than face-covering
That would make a good sign. ‘Help us cover our arses by covering your faces. Thank you.’
Can everyone confirm that I’m not mad?
Am I right in thinking that the fundamental issue is that this virus just isn’t that serious?
I say no. I think the fundamental issue is that serious or not, the way to deal with the virus was not to shut down the world and destroy the economy.
Of course, but to do it for this one is even more crazy.
Unless you are an ardent depopulationist à la Bill Gates or Klaus Schwab.
I think the fundamental issue is whether the state has the right to over ride peoples ability to make their own judgements. All the rest of the evils follow from this with no limit in sight…eg possible forced vaccinations etc.
The virus is clearly no more serious than seasonal flu. Also the death toll put down to Cocid-19 has been rigged from day one. Now why would they want that? It’s not just about wasting millions on useless tests and dodgy tests and thee is clearly a much bigger agenda at work. The Great Reset is simply another name for Depopulation.
Depopulation is Bill Gates middle name.
Unless you are over 80 and at deaths door already you have a much greater chance of dying in a road traffic accident.
I expect that Galileo felt it necessary to Praise the Lord before expounding his heretical beliefs.
You, me and all sceptics are sane, but the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
Asking that question is proof of your sanity.
But it’s not about the virus
Of course. Which makes lip service to the stupid rules a collaboration with evil?
Yep, but the moment you question it, you get the accusations thrown at you of ‘granny killing’, ‘conspiracy theorist’ and told that you should go on the frontline etc. Perhaps we should be focussing on the destruction of civil liberties, freedom of speech and the decimation of or economic and social structure. How people cannot see this still staggers me beyond belief.
Well that wasn’t what they intended – maybe someone should draw that to their attention – they’ve accidentally stopped de-populating the planet!
The vaccines are intended to fix that oversight.
Interesting flag you’re waving. What’s the bit in the middle – the Isle of Man?
The REAL virus is HUMAN FEAR. Look at the hideous ways in which virusphobic people are wishing harm On those of us who tell the truth. “Hope you get it and don’t get a ventilator”, “when you kill your grandparents maybe you’ll be sorry”, “wear a fucking mask, stupid”… all REAL quotes on social media. Frightened people pose the greatest threat to us right now. Too frightened to open their eyes and ears to the truth. Fear of others. That is what has led to every war in human history. History repeats itself. Again and again and again. We are at the start of WW3. Without a doubt.
It’s funny how people who are spreading the fear, like Neil Ferguson have broken the rules to meet their married lover
Pro-lockdowners are some of the biggest hypocrites
These are the “facts” that Obama was wittering on about the other day.
Does anyone listen to Obama?
2020 sanity test:
Shrink: (Places hacksaw in front of patient) “CUT YOUR ARM OFF NOW”
Patient: No!
Shrink: You did not follow orders, you are insane.
If you are over 80, then you are on the last bus anyway, so why worry about the ephemeral coronavirus, which is less lethal than flu.
I know several over-80s – and no, they’re NOT afraid of the virus. (Especially the ones who are still playing tennis and cycling every day.) They ARE afraid of the last bit of their lives being blighted by this disgraceful bunch of self-serving, smug b*ggers who ”rule” us. They’re afraid of separation from their families, either through illness or just ”rules”. THAT’s what scares them.
I doubt very much if there are many grannies who’d mind being killed by their families if it meant they could be with them in their final days.
Yes indeed, to all of that.
I know of a family of smug b*ggers who love Boris Johnson and who endorse lockdowns but who have consistently broken lockdown rules from the beginning. They see no irony.
What’s the betting that the pro-lockdown TV celebs, politicians, police who’ve arrested the unmasked, journalists and Piers Morgan break the rules at Christmas
I think you’re right that the virus is no worse than many other flu viruses BUT the shocking level of wasteful spending is serious.
77% of annual NHS budget (approx £100B) will be wasted over Xmas in (so called) testing using unsuitable methods. Just to generate false positives!
But worse, will our country be able to fund the NHS, the armed forces, schools etc in prospect of future annual false pandemics? When will the credit card be maxxed?
Research The Great Reset, Bill Gates, China’s social credit system.. And it will all begin to make terrible sense – unfortunately
If people don’t know by now, that Bill Gates is at the very heart of the Covid fiasco, then just what have they been doing all their lives?
From the number of up-votes you got for that question, I’d guess that just about everyone here is with you!
From Toby’s piece about students away at University testing positive but being included in their hometown cases.
About a month ago there were widespread revelations that students were being included in both their home town and at their university location so each positive student counted as two cases.
Double plus good!
I think we can be certain that the “cases” recorded at home won’t have been deducted, they will just have been double counted. It does provide further evidence that London has achieved effective community immunity though which is a positive.
A bit like them being registered to vote at home and the university. Back when he was at university, the whole cohort were registered by the university without any action on the part of the student. He was never that politically motivated but being so close to home he could easily have managed 2 votes in one day.
I did that once. Travelling from home in Yorkshire back to Uni in Reading! Voted in both places. Heh heh!
weekly emails from local council would provide counts of “infections” and would specifically mention the numbers attributed to students who lived in the area, who had been tested away at university, which were included in the local totals
I asked my local council covid advisory panel medical twat about students being counted twice when away at university.
Cases in our area in the 16-25 age group was the highest in the area over the last few months which was….
weirdnot surprising.I am not at all sure I will get an answer but perhaps I rattled a tree with my questions and just perhaps one of them picked up the big red telephone and got those student counts looked at properly.
They are idiots mind you, that is clear.
Something else about the Schlieffen Plan.
It coldly and deliberately envisaged the violation of Belgian neutrality, which Prussia, the forerunner state of Germany, had undertaken to respect under the 1839 Treaty of London.
In 1914, Belgium was invaded and occupied. The invasion force was instructed to treat the population with atrocious brutality in order to induce terror and eliminate resistance.
Germany was obsessed by an unfounded fear of. ‘encirclement’ and was determined to get its retaliation in first.
Bad faith, deceit, cruelty, panic: Wancock and his gang would have felt quite at home in 1914 Germany, though not quite so much in their element as in 1939 Germany.
The observation by Guy de la Bedoyere about the need of the Germans to follow the Schleiffen Plan being comparable to the overeaction to covid by governments throughout the world follows the wonderful and erudite A.J.P. Taylor in the 1970s.
He goes further back (on topic still), it was the pre-planning by all the major powers and in particular the reliance on the technology of the time particularly railways that made avoiding general war impossible even before the war had begun.
The parallel between pre covid ‘Pandemic Planning causing disproportionate lockdowns and the Army mobilizations in 1914 causing WW1 could not be clearer.
Youtuber Major Esterhazy
The Outbreak of the The First World War
A.J.P. Taylor How Wars Begin 1977.
30 mins, the relevant stuff starts after ten minutes.
Further to Annie’s remarks about the atrocities committed by the Germans while undeniably true the authorities on all sides initiated psy ops on their populations based on ever more lurid claims of atrocities committed by their enemies.
Historians like to blame Nationalism for WW1 in fact it was those same Psy Ops that whipped up nationalist outrage as a result of war, not its cause.
Another Covid lockdown parallel.
You’re right about the lurid claims. But the German atrocities were real.
Germany invaded neutral Belgium on 4 August 1914. From the next day, civilians were executed en masse, as the invasion force advanced on its first obstacle, the ring of forts around Liège. To retaliate for the shelling from these forts, the German troops rounded up inhabitants of surrounding villages. Victims were selected and shot, those still alive being killed off with bayonets. By 8 August, nearly 850 civilians were dead. By then, several of the dynamics of this particular type of violence had fully emerged. First, the massacres occurred where the invading army suffered setbacks; the German military did not consider Belgium’s military defence to be legitimate. Second, the victims were accused, incorrectly, of being franc-tireurs (civilian snipers). Most of the German rank and file genuinely believed that the locals were attacking them; this sniper delusion was sometimes countered by the commanding officers, sometimes not. Third, there were women, children and old men among the victims but the vast majority were men of military age. These were more likely to be suspected of sniping; moreover, the invading troops resented them for still enjoying the civilian life that they themselves had so recently been torn from. Fourth, and last, the massacres went together with rituals designed to show civilians how helpless they were. People were made to cheer the troops; local dignitaries (mayors, priests) were publicly mistreated, in some cases killed.
https://www.bl.uk/world-war-one/articles/civilian-atrocities-german-1914
LD folk will draw parallels.
very scary indeed
Edward Bernays had been perfecting
mass marketingbrainwashing in about 1910. He was known for persuading women to smoke cigarettes in huge numbers by selling them as “freedom torches” and how they were a signal of the emancipation of women.This new fangled propaganda tool, or using the new mass media (cinema) and magazines presented the opportunity to roll out mass brainwashing.
I guess because it was brand new, an unknown force and applied with brutish clumsiness it is why WW1 and WW2 resulted in the anti-human carnage that ensued.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays
Well the Assassination of Archduke Ferdinand was not the cause. That was on the front page of UK papers for one day, day two it was the inside pages and by day 3 it had gone.
It was the planning that caused WW1 and it was the planning that created lockdown.
I like the WW1 analogies but I think what we have now is more like 1917 than 1914. It’s grinding on and and on into lunacy, but those in power won’t stop because they can’t back down and there are too many vested interests involved, either wanting to make money or use the war to force societal change. Remember that the poet Siegfried Sassoon, one of the few high-profile soldiers to speak out against the war, was persuaded to commit himself to a mental institution to avoid court-martial.
Very quickly the War Aim of all the powers became the same.
To not lose.
As has been said above, the aim of the lockdown merchants is simply to not lose face.
‘All Quiet on the Western Front’.
That’s right and Bismarck knew that France would do its utmost to exact revenge and regain Alsace-Lorraine. That’s why he built alliances such as the Three Emperors’ League and one with the Austro-Hungarian empire to neutralise the French threat. Of course it also benefited him too that Britain was engaged in a policy of “splendid isolation”
IIRC Bismarck wanted to let France keep Alsace-Lorraine (because he knew taking it would make France a long-term enemy of Germany) but was overruled by a Kaiser anxious to please jingoistic public opinion.
Austria-Hungary was actually part of the Three Emperors’ League, but that alliance fell apart when Austria-Hungary and Russia came into conflict over the Balkans.
Looks like Bismarck was right. There was a monument in France that was draped in black after the Franco-Prussian War owing to the loss of Alsace-Lorraine and it only came down when the two provinces again became part of France in 1919.
As for the second bit, that’s what I was going to say but don’t why it came out the way I typed it. DOH!!!
Exclude children, enjoy Christmas…
He meant excluded from the ludicrous Rule Of 6 I expect.
Sure, only joking.
Hahahaha!!
So. In today’s list of pieces we have had news of a new ‘hate speech’ law (just call it censorship) being proposed in England with a penalty of 7 years in jail. Funny, Scotland were also pushing for the same thing, coincidence? I don’t think so. I wonder what else they will be trying to sneak in while everyone is focused on the flu…sorry ‘covid19`!
Then we hear of AI dealing with vaccine issues, not good and AI is routinely warned against and for good reason.
Slowly like the frog in increasingly hot water we are being herded towards our collective demise.
What worries me more is the likes of JHB etc being pro-vaccine for covid as if it undoes allll the many issues that we have experienced since this overblown farce came into public consciousness.
Why is the focus not on the recovery from the deliberate devastation we have been put in. Where is the chat about that? Talking about cases etc is exactly what the govt wants us to do as it distracts us from the real issues.
Let us call it for what it is, covid19 is about as dangerous as the flu. I’m sure many being tested positive is for this reason. Other coronavirus are not being tracked in the same way so who is to say that isn’t ehat we are picking up.
NO MASKS, NO LOCKDOWNS!
Perhaps the Covid Recovery Group would be better called the Lockdown Recovery Group.
Definitely!
Big Brother Recovery Group.
How are we going to sabotage The Great Reset?
Big Brother and the Holding Company.
AI or artificial intelligence is a phrase like algorithm much bandied about by people who
A) Have never had to specify or create a decision tree for a program or suite of programs
B) Wish to hide the fact that ALL these decisions are made by human beings usually with an agenda
If anyone is wondering why Sweden is now introducing ‘measures’ similar to that of other countries need to look hard in the mirror and realise that all of this is a plan. One by one we will all fall in line as we are collectively weak and won’t do anything as long as we think it will mean we are left alone.
The human condition is to adapt, it also that condition that will lead to our collective demise, ‘they’ know it. We’re too bothered by what’s on social media to care.
Don’t start moaning when it’s all taken away and even posts like this will come with repurcussions for ‘violations’.
Gulags aren’t required in a digital age.
The inner skeptic in me as always wondered whether Sweden was “allowed” to follow Anders Tegnell’s logical plan for the reason that a minimal amount of research would have shown that the casualties from any respiratory illness was always going to be much higher than it’s Nordic neighbours and would hence give credibility to the assertion that Lockdowns work. Even before the LD in March when cases were already much higher in Sweden, it was known that the previous season had seen very low flu casualties (dry tinder) and the pollution maps, the huge nursing homes and other factors could have predicted the higher death rates with some certainty.
Alternatively maybe Swedish politicians are subject to the same pressures as leaders everywhere else, and Swedish people are susceptible to panic, and irrational fear/obsession that “something must be done”, and their media like a good doom story.
I agree. This change signifies a move away from a reasonable scientific approach to a political one. Whether that’s because of pressure on politicians from without or within It can only go downhill from there with masks, etc. an inevitability.
Yes this. The politicians have now taken over and is a perfect example of why politicians shouldn’t get involved in things they know very little about. This whole thing has been political everywhere else and Sweden is bowing to the international pressure of ‘being on the right side’. They are probably worried about Swedens international reputation and probably been lent on by powerful forces or interests who are threatening (already started) to ruin that reputation for them.
Probably economic vulnerability made evident.
The WHO u-turn on face nappies was a response to political pressure. Who’s pulling the political strings ……….?
The World Bank, the IMF and lots of other large banking firms across the globe.
Cases cases everywhere.
The problem is always the PCR casedemic and the shared view among ill informed ministers across Europe that it has any basis in reality. The fear agenda relies on it and it seems to be a drag net on such weak individuals.
Bribes, blackmail or coercion more like. The destruction of the economy that’s happening globally will harm and kill millions for generations to come
I can’t believe that all politicians want to do this, because history will hold them responsible
Why did the Nordic countries other than Sweden do so much better than the countries of core Europe (even Germany), even though they didn’t lock down to the same degree?
It’s also possible that just by chance they had picked a health minister who was a thoughtful adult instead of another monstrous politico-administrative type.
I think Sweden’s change of heart is more down to the belief that we’re now only a few months away from a vaccine, and that the people and economy will tolerate a 6-month lockdown when they wouldn’t have tolerated a 14-month lockdown.
I predicted this
I knew it would happen, because a global Covid Cabal is in charge. Governments are not in charge
Every country is under occupation
It’s because the Covid Cabal leaned on them. (The WEF, banks, UN, Pharma, Gates etc)
Digital Gulags.
Most prisoners sentenced by a court in the UK serve a third of their sentences
We have all been banged up for eight months now
That is the equivalent of being sent down for 2 years by a court
These length of sentences are usually reserved for serious offences such as grevious bodily harm
Might as well get hung for a sheep as for a lamb
We have nothing left to lose
Prisoners still have Association and communal dining while many of the general population remain in solitary confinement.
they could require us to be rogered in the showers… (in Tier 4 regs, I suspect)
A while ago Toby or a colleague posted a whistleblower’s news about massive staff shortfalls in some NHS regions. This I think was down to the inadequacies of test and trace getting people to self-isolate in particular. This seemed like significant news. Has anyone got any updates?
You can see the position of staff absences from the monthly downloadable NHS spreadsheet titled November 2020 COVID Publication (XLS, 9.6mb)which goes up to 4th November
https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/
Total NHS staff absences were levelling off at 4th November in the North West it appears at about 60% of the maximum staff absences in March/April so I’m guessing they are causing about the same level of issues.
Absences highest as a percentage of absences in the first wave in the North West and North East and Yorkshire so consistent with those reporting most covid+ deaths. Lower relative absences in other areas although increasing from these lower levels.
Thanks.
The interesting one is that covid staff absences at 4th November were at about 40% of what they were in the first wave in the North West (which is consistent with covid+ deaths being about 40% of the first wave peak in the North West).
But TOTAL staff absences at 4th November were 60% of the first wave total staff absences peak (so higher than this 40%). This supports the theory which has some supporting anecdotal evidence also that some staff have been off sick in the Autumn for reasons of stress or because they didn’t want to be allocated to treat covid patients.
Looks like from your findings that it might be worth more digging by someone. It seems a significant phenomenon.
There is also the issue that, like Boris, many NHS have had the virus but are being required to ‘self isolate’ over and over again if a colleague or one of their children ‘tests positive’. Shortage of NHS staff is the main reason for the lockdown but government policy is causing it.
I’d say thatT&T policy is a big part of the problem.
Don’t forget also that the obese can self-certify themselves as vulnerable and skive off – and there’s a disproportionate number of fatties working in the NHS.
In addition, those that have been working are being driven to the point of exhaustion on 12 hr shifts meaning some, and I mean some, are going ill due to stress or exhaustion. Lack of nursing capacity needs urgent investigation
Totally agree that the lack of nursing capacity needs urgent attention, but we’ve known about this for years.
The main argument for these measures is that the NHS needs protecting, but as we know it’s been at full capacity nearly every winter, where has been the contingency planning and where is the criticism? We’ve lost our individual liberty for the sake of protecting the NHS, but there seems to be very little questioning of how we have arrived at this place.
Surely with the bare minimum of good management we wouldn’t have to ‘protect the NHS’
Shifts in hospital are normally 11-12 hrs. This means only one handover a day. It’s called a ‘Long Day’. Rotas usually avoid back to back shifts, but sometimes staff will volunteer to do one if another person calls in sick. Stress is caused by vacant posts not being filled as well as staff sickness.
I should have saved it, but a week or so back I spotted a Twatter post which said that in a particular area NHS staff deemed to be in the “At Risk” category were being sent home on indefinite leave until such time as a vaccine is available. It was pointed out that this meant the fatties (and, let’s face it, there are a LOT of them) and BAME employees are now sitting around on full pay, while the remaining staff are working their butts off. I’ve not seen this mentioned anywhere else, so it may be “Fake News”, but then again, it sounds entirely plausible for an organisation obsessed with political correctness and diversity issues…
In my area ‘at risk’ staff are redeployed to non covid/ICU wards. Only a minority are allowed to shield at home.
Found this though:
How should vulnerable workers feature in return to work risk assessments?
Obesity
Businesses will need to include obesity when considering who may be at risk in your workplace and then undertake individual risk assessments for anyone in that group – particularly as they may have other underlying health conditions that you may not be aware of.
They will need to make sure that staff are aware of the steps that have been taken to protect them.
As part of this exercise, employers could list the categories of people in the vulnerable group and explain that current advice is that they can return to work (if they can’t work from home) and ask them to contact HR so that it can consider their individual circumstances before a decision about whether it’s safe for them to do so is reached.
We recommend that employers include links to the NHS BMI calculator to help your staff determine if they are “very obese”.
Bear in mind that people who fall into this category may be reluctant to talk to their employer about it. If you believe that a member of staff is very obese, businesses may – depending on the nature of their work – ask staff to work out their BMI and inform HR if it’s 40 or above. This will need to be extremely tactful, but employers shouldn’t shy away from the conversation simply because it is a difficult one
https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/bame-and-obese-workers-how-should-they-feature-in-return-to-work-risk-assessments/
Or they could insist that they lose weight……..!
Would that be discrimination, victimisation etc?
It may vary from trust to trust (and region to region)?
I’d seen it elsewhere. Sorry don’t know where ….
Good grief. It does have the ring of truth, unfortunately.
Won’t do as much harm as most things the PD does.
Many wonder about their relationship. I think Littlejohn pointed out what many have always thought: he looks more than old enough to be her dad. The relationship just does not ring true. They are an odd couple. Too odd. The Conservative Woman suggests Boris is a damaged personality…
I just hope Graham Brady and co save us from this madness.
Absolutely, I think that a 24 year difference is shall we say: “a bit weird”
I think that family follow the old saying about the aristocracy: “They f××k all year and share the babbies (babies) out at Christmas.”
What’s the title of the book? Johnson’s former father-in-law had an interesting life as as a foreign correspondent.
Fantastic. Will check it out.
Boris is a manchild and easily dominated, Princess nut nuts is his handler.
The parallels between this and Harry & Meghan are eerie.
Is “damaged personality” politespeak for narcissistic sociopath?
The news coming out of Sweden really is a new low. Even their PM’s rhetoric sounds depressingly familiar.
External influences probably.
Sweden has a long history of neutrality. It’s possible that if globalist forces are running this pandemic, they made an initial show of respecting that neutrality, but now perhaps pressure is being applied against them, in the same way the Germans pressured them into allowing use of their railways to access Norway during WW2.
He probably received a letter from the World Bank. Or Klaus Schwab.
According to Littlejohn the last three emojis were used by Dom and wotsisname to indicate princess nut nut.
100% right. It’s not a traditional Christmas in my house if you have to limit it to six adults!
No children no Christmas.
Interesting how the BMJ is turning sceptical, or at least allowing sceptical views (and scathing ones at that).
I wonder if they would publish the Danish masks study?
Twice in one week and Editorials to boot.
Yes, interesting editorial here:
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4425
As are the responses to that editorial:
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4425/rapid-responses
Brilliant responses, thanks for the link
Yes, good to see those responses thanks.
Hopefully this will encourage them in further editorials along these lines.
If that Danish masks study is technically any good, I imagine there will be huge kudos – when better times dawn – for the journal with the integrity to publish it.
Deep Blue – thank you for posting this. I was beginning to lose my mind… it appears there is hope.
Am sure has nothing to do with the fact their members are first in the queue for the jab ! I would be seriously considering other career options right now…
The NEJM says “hold my beer”. Excoriating
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2029812
Thanks for the link – but the article rests largely on the premise that non-pharmaceutical interventions are effective, and are responsible for the containment of disease in places like China et al.
I don’t buy that, I’m afraid. A while ago on here there was a discussion on the proper mean of the phrase ‘begging the question’. The article is a good example of that proper meaning, I think.
That photo at the top of today’s post is nauseating. One face indescribably pompous and ugly, the other thick, arrogant and vacant.
We all know that hancock is one of the most hated men in the country but, to be fair, he does keep a straight face peddling shite in interview after interview sometimes with hostile presenters.
Perhaps that’s why he’s still in the job.
And, for all Toby says that “yesterday was not a good day” for him, I think he will have gone to bed thinking that it was a very good day. Morgan, Hartley-Brewer, both had a go and he just dissembled and rode them out. It’s all he has to do and he knows it. The law, the “experts”, the “science”, the so-called polls, everything is on his side. It’s almost as if it’s all been set up so that the likes of him have lines they can throw back.
Sociopaths like Hancock will always assume that criticism reflects more on the critic than themselves. Even if the entire country got together and strung him up from a lamppost he’d still assume they were only doing it because they were gullible enough to have been talked into it by someone else.
He’d still be strung from the lamp post. That’s good enough for me.
I’m beginning to think it’s our only option at this point.
Or shot. Either I suspect that he’s not going to meet a good end.
He deserves a bad ending, so do most of them in government.
Politicians’ smiles are duping delight
Yes…he sleeps like a baby. There will be no repercussions, no committee hearing, no investigations, he holds all the cards and he knows it. He could literally appear on the interview naked after a 6 days cocain binge and would be cool as as cucumber.. Like I said about 3 months ago ( oh my God I right again :-() he will probably be knighted for this . We are all in Lok Step going into the Great reset. Build, back, better !
Lying comes easily to him, some of his peers are more obviously uncomfortable defending the indefensible. Hancock will lie his way out of a corner with impunity, knowing even the more hostile interviews conducted by such as Morgan or Brewer, will stop short of really calling him out on the current subject.
A man too dense to understand he is to be the patsy.
Like the Prisoner episode at the great chess match when one of the villagers told the young woman ‘we’re all pawns’.
At least, unlike Sturgeon, he has to face hostile presenters. The real ‘disaster’ of devolution. I’m not sure if that’s what Johnson was getting at.
Or maybe it’s because he’s a sociopath.
I have been thinking of SAGE’s role in this
I would expect either
1 – SAGE looks at covid evidence, supplies information to PM who in addition to other information makes policy decisions
2 – SAGE looks at all evidence (covid and lockdown) and makes policy recommendations
I think what has happened is that
3 – SAGE looks at one half only (covid whilst ignoring lockdown) then makes policy recommendations
But I want to know what was SAGEs official remit? 1 or 2? They can never have been set-up to do 3. So either they were set up catastrophically wrong or they have reinterpreted their scope.
If I was Boris I would ask SAGE what economic forecasts they have been using to gauge the effects of lockdown using their health economists. If they say they haven’t then disband them and set up a new SAGE with a remit of 1 or 2 above.
SAGE does not consider the lockdown negative effects. Its focus is purely on the coronavirus. However, the government did get around to looking at wider effects of lockdown (after it had been implemented). https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/initial-estimates-of-excess-deaths-from-covid-19-8-april-2020
As you can see the government expects the lockdown to kill about two hundred thousand – although you have to add up totals.
“SAGE does not consider the lockdown negative effects. Its focus is purely on the coronavirus. ”
then it should never make policy recommendations!
And they certainly shouldn’t keep briefing the newspapers to try to bounce politicians into accepting them.
SAGE only does the science bit, hence the name. The problem is the weight given to their advice. Whitty being Chief Medical Officer needed to balance science with economics because that’s his job – to assess harm in a broader sense. When he couldn’t do that he should have sought expert advice.
Sadly it appears the medical establishment seems to think “do no harm” only applies to medical care and patient wellbeing rather than the greater impact on societal and economic impacts.
We saw that with the Charlie Gard case. I’ve had arguments with the wife over that because she can’t see past the medical “do no harm” either. Perhaps it’s because my profession (physics/engineering) has the eternal stain of “Destroyer of Worlds” on it.
The economic effect of lockdown on mortality is science
You mean “science” ?
Surely, as an engineer, you have to test hypotheses before implementing them?
Sage members was set up and positioned over the last 5 or so years with Gates funding almost everybody in it in either by pouring cash into their companies or universities or paying them directly.
SAGE was set up to steer the UK into covid/vaccine/test n trace/ corona bollocks hell, to ensure the UK “did its bit” in the global COVID scam.
That’s what SAGE is for.
Children have killed themselves because of lockdown. In all seriousness SAGE have committed crimes against humanity. Those responsible need to face trial
Vallance said at the “grilling” that they hadn’t taken the economic aspects into account because that’s not their remit.
Sounds as if, ideally, Sage should have been balanced with another group of socio-economic experts.
However, the predominance of modellers, psy-op experts and people with vested interests suggests the composition is deliberate.
https://twitter.com/spencermorgan93/status/1328450549302366214?s=20
I saw that earlier – so true.
Tears yesterday as my 11 year old was forced into a pointless self isolation because someone in his class “tested positive”. He is lucky because he won’t miss out on six and a half days of education because his private school have such an exceptional online offering. How many state educated kids enjoy a full online education while they are self isolating? I suspect the answer is the square root of fuck all.
This is criminal. In fact what’s being done to children is criminal, had a chat with a friend the other day and she predicted that anxiety and OCD will rise among children exponentially when this is all over and you can guess what will happen as they grow older and that remains unchecked.
Big Pharma will be rubbing it’s hands, just thinking of all the anti-anxiety and anti-depressants that will be being prescribed in future years to today’s children.
That’s a good point, they’ll be drugged till kingdom come and it will be seen as an easy way out especially as therapy and counseling will be overstretched for years, even decades.
They may not be as the drugs will probably come out of patent, however it does provide the impetus to create new drugs (probably by creating isomers of current drugs, giving them a new name and hence new patents). £££££
I am terrified of living, as a very old person, in a world run by today’s children and teenagers. Their mothers, particularly, are so brainwashed by government propaganda that they will never go out or take their muzzles off again.
I would like to see the children sent to boarding schools in the countryside with no television, lots of sport, outdoor activities, singing, the teaching of accurate biology, and other forbidden activities. Perhaps, then, we would have a future worth living for.
I know too many f*ed up people who went to boarding school!
And aren’t most of the Cabinet examples of boarding school products?
So would the kids.
A friend of mine spoke to a child psychologist because she is worried about her ten year old son – seems angry and withdrawn a lot of the time. The shrink said there has been a lot of this since Lockdown. Partly it’s the restriction on activities and partly the rise in computer addiction, which fries kids’ brains if they are on them for too long (and isn’t that good for us adults either!)
That doesn’t surprise me – they’re starved of face to face contact as well as just being normal kids which means being outside, playing with their peers, seeing their grandparents, getting dirty. Not being cooped up indoors, going to school in front of a computer screen, being sanitised from head to toe and being muzzled up.
We all know the answer to that.
These poor kids, terrorised by zombie parents and zombie teachers, living on a perpetual go-home time bomb that can explode any second.
I’m so glad I don’t have descendants.
Sadly agree with you on that. I see photos of my nieces muzzled and visored up and wonder what will happen to them.
I can imagine my sister invoking the Nuremberg excuse if and when her daughters go off the rails.
Likewise…
Annie I count my blessings we had no children, a decision we had no part in making but is proving to be more of a silver lining on what was a black cloud.
The private schools have had to do this to survive. They were threatened by ( usually wealthy ) parents with withdrawn fees in the spring, so had to act very quickly.
One issue that isn’t being discussed is increased screen time. It should be
We all pay for education if we pay taxes. It’s just more obvious to the parent of a privately educated child when they are paying on top of this and getting nothing.
All parents should be kicking up whenever their child gets no education.
But then we should all be kicking up when we get no healthcare from the National Covid Service. That isn’t free either.
Exactly. It should worry everyone that the services they pay for, are being reduced, or in some cases withheld.
Oh but there’s an emergency, a deadly pandemic!
The headmaster of my calf’s (now ex-) private school is a rampant bedwetter, refusing even to permit mask exemptions. From what I can tell, the
parentscustomers are no different. When the headmaster refused my calf access to remote learning as punishment for her refusal to wear a mask at school, we parted ways.The mask issue is down to HSE advice and the teaching unions who are, unbelievably, active in private schools as well as the state sector. Whilst some schools were being more relaxed around masks, most are now insisting on them because of their insurers and lawyers. A stupid situation without doubt, but the schools are between a rock and a hard place on this.
Except that they are liable if harm if caused from wearing masks. Business insurance won’t cover this as the fine print will say it must be established in science that the harm from masks is minimal. And of course it doesn’t say this.
Plus you need a procedure in how to wear them correctly to ensure HSE is met. But there’s no proper guidance on that. Masks are worn in the food industry from time to time and there are regulations on use and disposal. But that’s because mask use is only for specific cases and is hard to enforce. Hair nets and gloves are easier to manage, and yet there are still issues with gloves (latex/nitriles)
So, in short, a parent can sue the school directly for any harm or “perceived harm”.
In which circumstance the schools will have to close again which no one wants. Organisations have to take a pragmatic line on this even if they think the whole thing is a load of bollocks. If we didn’t have No win; No fee none of this would even be an issue.
Yes but the refusal to allow remote access was just vindictive and peevish.
…especially given that remote access was being provided to those children who were “self isolating”.
You did right!
It is as you say f..k all and this will go on and on..I am highly suspicious any child was even tested.this is the spiel being sent to parents around the country by the public health idiots sent from their masters…
I feel your pain. My own son had to endure two weeks of “self-isolation” because of a “positive test” in a pupil in another year group that he *might* have had indirect contact with at playtime. The chances of him interacting with anyone in the year above him was infinitesimally small. But no he had to self-isolate. I suggested to the head teacher that it was probably a false positive and demanded a second test be performed on the individual to be sent to a different lab for confirmation but was told no, that wasn’t going to happen.
Guess what? No symptoms in two weeks: I wasn’t surprised.
The result of this is that in the last couple of weeks he seems to have become more “clingy” to my wife and I.
https://twitter.com/HeckofaLiberal/status/1328242163344318466
This is a short video from June with Michael Osterholm about masks. What he is saying makes perfect sense about an aerosol infection. Osterhom is one of the leading epidemiologists and expert in influenza and respiratory diseases (contrary to Fauci,Redfield,Birx who are HIV experts).
And Michael Osterholm is now part of Project fear and wants a 2 week national lockdown of US and part of the mask mandate. He is also in Biden’s new C-19 group(hope he reverts to previous opinions like this one and he also was against lockdowns in the beginning)
Everything Osterholm says in the video makes perfect sense: viruses are everywhere, even in our ordinarily-exhaled air (not just when coughing), masks only work to the extent that they filter air and trap viral particles (so air leaks around the edges essentially nullify the purpose of wearing a mask), the studies after the Spanish Flu outbreak showed that cloth masks were pointless, and that forcing people to wear masks will be the thin end of a wedge that will lead to governments extend their coercive power into other areas like locking up the overweight and the old “to protect them”.
However, his logic about the ineffectiveness of masks, and his recent appointment to team Biden may lead the people of US down a potentially worse path, that of total isolation:
“If we don’t stop “swapping air” with our neighbors, friends, and colleagues, COVID case numbers will grow substantially…” — interview, CNN, 2020-11-16
Here, Osterholm is arguing for more lockdown to prevent people from breathing in the same place as other people. Masks don’t work, therefore lock up everyone. Once again we see the implacable logic of the scientist used to bludgeon the public.
I was interested to read the final section of Churchill’s Fifty Years Hence from 1932, a section that muses on the possibility of science creating a sub-species of human fit only for operating machinery:
“The production of creatures, for instance, which have admirable physical development, with their mental endowment stunted in particular directions, is almost within the range of human power. A being might be produced capable of tending a machine but without other ambitions.”
What came to my mind was the image of humans hunched over their smartphones eagerly administering yet another dose of dopamine as they shuffle towards the Soylent Green euthanasia centre. But perhaps I’m just having a bad week.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcShFfB-62PTnq93odhnN6rpOF6hsbCwkO4FpA&usqp=CAU
Hubble, bubble, toil and trouble: inhabitants of the Central Belt are awaiting warp speed transport to the Tier 4th Dimension: abandon hope all ye who enter here.
It might be simpler to build an extension at the Bar-L and confine us all at the FM’s pleasure.
It would need to be a very big extension.
I wait with you. If she does as was claimed and shuts ALL but essential shops for four weeks, it will leave 6 days to do the Christmas shopping as a lot of people are relying on their November pay to do so and haven’t the luxury of choosing to shop earlier.
A bumper Xmas for Amazon and Netflix.
‘Hello, is that Nicola Sturgeon?’
‘Aye, this is she speakin,’ wha’s this?’
‘Hi Nicola. This is Jeff. Jeff Bezos. From Amazon.’
‘Whit? You the guy wha’s always droppin’ thae parcels on ma front drive when ah’m awa’ at work, an leavin’ them oot in the rain?’
‘I just love that British humour, Nicola.’
‘Wha’ ye callin’ British? An’ see my parcels, if ye drop one on the drive again I’ll skelp ye.’
‘No but seriously Nicola. It’s me, Jeff Bezos. I’m the boss of Amazon. I’ve got a little proposition to make to you…how would you like to make a million dollars?’
‘Aye, get away. Ah’m no bein’ fooled by that again. Last time it wis a Nigerian prince that wis gonnae gie me a million dollars.’
Exactly; the woman is power mad
In Phase III of the the Moderna vaccine clinical trial, out of the 15,000 people who were in the control group, only 90 became “confirmed and adjudicated cases.”
The total participant population was “approximately 30,000 participants (case driven) whose locations or circumstances put them at appreciable risk of acquiring COVID-19 and/or SARS-CoV-2 infection. ‘All-comers’ with regard to SARS-CoV-2 serostatus (baseline serology will be collected).”
8,000 + participants were “living with chronic condition.”
Yet there has been no comment on quite how few in the control group became “cases.” 90 out of 15,000 in the control group, of whom presumably some 4,000 were living with chronic conditions.
See:
https://www.modernatx.com/sites/default/files/content_documents/mRNA-1273-Update-11-16-20-Final.pdf
Half of the participants received two doses of the vaccine, 28 days apart. The other half received placebos on the same schedule. The total 95 cases (90 control group, 5 vaccine group) were found two weeks after the second vaccine dose. So that’s 90 cases in the control group after 6 weeks. That doesn’t seem like such a low number to me. And having a chronic condition doesn’t necessarily make you more susceptible to contracting the infection.
“That doesn’t seem like such a low number to me.” Relative to what? In the latest ONS Infection Survey in the community for England, 1 in 85 “had the coronavirus.”
Not backed up by the Liverpool results, which have been rather ignored by the BBC.
So the control group had a 0.6% pos rate. Exactly the same as picked up in the Liverpool mass testing charade and highlighted in the BMJ piece above. Hmm?
And similar but higher than the Pfizer vaccine trials (86 out of 21,683 non vaccine so 0.4%)
They are, however adjudged based on symptoms, then confirmed by test. Not randomly selected for testing. Not the same as any FPR at all
Where are the details of the cases, with symptoms? Didn’t mention FPR
‘All-comers’ with regard to SARS-CoV-2 serostatus (baseline serology will be collected).”
Does that mean that even people with pre-existing immunity were enrolled on the trial?
It has always been the plan to exclude children from the rule of six. The only question is when to announce it for maximum political benefit.
The comparison to the First World War is a good one.
1914 was at the end of a long period of unprecedented peace, economic growth and global integration. Just like today.
It then started with an event in Sarajevo that no one remotely felt at the time could lead to world war. Nobody believed our current dystopia would be the consequence of the first outbreaks back in January.
Miscalculation and Fear then got going as each country believed it might be attacked or suffer ruin if it did not join in. This is all very like the approach to Lock Downs – we will all die if we do not take action and every country then joins the same contagion.
It was also deeply popular, at least at the start. There were crowds cheering in the streets in all the European countries. Every government and populace also convinced themselves that they were morally virtuous and in the right. Just like now.
Then, once the disaster unfolded it was found to be impossible to back out. But, as Guy says, any rational agent would have ended it by December 1914. Instead, it lasted 4 years and even then the result was not clear cut. In some ways, the Second World War was a continuation.
I am increasingly worried that this current dystopia will just carry on. Fear has caused rational judgment to be suspended on the part of too many people. Now that governments and populations are in so deep, everyone is just ex post rationalising. This still has a long way to run.
Rigid battle plans turn out badly as Helmuth Graf von Moltke (the Elder) advised, also Japan’s undoing in Burma. No doubt coronanists will still be muttering about lockdowns as they emerge from the jungle years from now. Those that aren’t boasting about their brave resistance to lockdowns of course.
They will be like that Japanese soldier who was found in the Philippines years after the war ended who refused to surrender and only did so when the Emperor had to order it personally.
Interesting twitter thread about seasonality of Coronaviruses in Canada
https://twitter.com/rubiconcapital_/status/1328087905580048390
“PCR positivity is occurring everywhere and to a greater magnitude and well-before other Coronavirus seasons; despite masking / distancing / restrictions / lockdowns. Why?”
Nice find.
I expect coronavirus #5 has a more susceptible population to go through. As we saw for UK, the suppression in Spring/Summer could have come from 3 things – summer, herd immunity and lockdown. Comparison between UK and Sweden shows lockdown had a smallish effect, so it must be summer and herd immunity. Anything suppressed by summer will re-emerge in autumn until its gone through everyone and it settles down into being just another coronavirus
When you use vague and imprecise measuring techniques you get vague and imprecise measurements.
The trouble is when you adopt vague and imprecise measuring techniques the advocates proclaim detailed and precise measurements.
Such is the irrational mind.
https://apnews.com/article/65-virus-cases-who-staff-geneva-4e133325afec1d3f309ab184138e6f73
WHO HQ Geneva has now C-19 amongst staff(65)
You log of Matt Hancock’s day at the office missed his earlier appointment with BBC Breakfast, where Dan Walker, one of the BBC’s pretend journalists, tried to challenge Hancock on the failure of Boris Johnson and Mr Anderson to observe social distancing. Mr Hancock was in the BBC’s newsroom, and throughout the interview BBC personnel could be seen failing to observe social distancing. This virtue signalling hypocrisy has become institutionalised, and not just in the BBC. The few Lockdownistas that I know have consistently broken all the ever changing lockdown rules from the outset and have simultaneously complained about and condemned other people (who they do not know) for not observing the rules. One apparently unintended consequence of the lockdown has been to significantly increase the level of virtue signalling and hypocrisy in society generally, something that was bad enough already.
Yes and Hancock is perhaps the biggest virtue signaller of them all, with his National Death Service badge and face muzzle. Cover yourself privately is surely the best advice now in terms of personal health. CCP Virus is only a worry to me if admitted to an NDS Hospital for other reasons, round this way they are a complete disaster.
Do you call the 2009 pandemic the Smithfield virus?
No but nor will I use the WHO, let our Chinese bosses of the hook name for the current virus. China Virus or Wuhan Virus is unfair on the people who have no choice in tolerating the new Nazi’s who run their country. So CCP Virus it is, after those who at the very least knowingly exported their virus. Unless you can think of better.
Smithfield were responsible for the swine flu pandemic of 2009.
I do not see how China’s authorities can be responsible for the current pandemic as they reported it to the World Health Organisation in December 2019. The government of this country was informed (as were all the others) and decided on scientific advice not to secure the borders and a month later two people with the virus freely entered the country, at Heathrow, travelled around London, headed north and got to York before seeking medical attention and were found to have the disease. Even then the government did not secure the border (on scientific advice), allowing more infectious people to freely enter the country and spread the virus. There are plenty of people who are responsible for the spread of the virus, but the Chinese government is certainly not responsible for the actions and inactions of the government of this country: and those policy decisions have caused, and are causing, far more harm than the virus ever could.
Not to exempt the govt in any way from the accusations you’ve made, but didn’t China threaten the doctor who first tried to alert the authorities to the new illness?
There’s increasing evidence now that it was around in various countries well before Dec 2019 anyway.
We should call it stupidity signalling.
Maybe it just shows that the virus spreads anyway and that masks, social distancing etc. do not stop it. Sneaky, naughty viruses. They are older than us. Somehow they always get through. Otherwise, surely, some animal would have evolved masks and socially distanced procreation as a defence. But no animal ever did. Or at least not one we found.
Is it not strange that Hancock et al cannot see that graphs of the virus’ effects all have the same shape, regardless of the measures a country takes or does not take?
Where would the human race be if it wasn’t for our Immune Systems? I put my trust in my own immune system rather than the deceitful lies of globalists.
I don’t think it has so much increased virtue signalling and hypocrisy as exposed it. I said the other day when feeling very low that I will never look at my fellow human being the same way again. I still feel it today, that by and large they are nasty and hypocritical and the veneer of civilisation has always been very thin indeed. We are just seeing it now.
Sigh. I feel the same way, and it’s not a good feeling.
Any psychologist on here who can give an expert opinion of Hancock’s personality type? I always class him as a psychopath having met a few very successful ones in the business world but I may be wide of the mark. Any help please?
Definitely- no empathy whatsoever.
He’s a sociopath, they don’t have empathy.
The notion that Hancock is a psychopath is patently wrong.
Please expand. What is his personality type?
It is not a matter of Matt Hancock’s personality type. He is in fact a typical careerist politician.
The lesson from history – one that so many people shy away from even though it has been repeated so often – is it does not take bad people to do bad things; good people are perfectly capable of doing very bad things and indeed are much more efficient and effective. Take the care home massacre. Virtually all the people involved in those tens of thousands of premature deaths are good, caring people, concerned to do their jobs as well as they are able. Yet, they placed old, vulnerable people in virtual solitary confinement, denied them access to the comfort (and oversight) of their relatives, denied them any social interaction to speak of, denied them access to the outdoors, denied them access to medical attention, put DNR notices on their notes, and many of them, entirely predictably, out of isolation and anxiety and confusion and depression simply gave up and died. This massacre of the most vulnerable is just one example of the horrors good people have inflicted since March. Good people happen to be precisely the people one needs to carry out the most barbarous of policies.
I think you’re right – there’s some quote somewhere that tyrants who genuinely believe they’re acting for your own good are far more dangerous than those simply doing it for power, because they are true believers in the cause and will never stop.
Arrogance covering up ignorance. An ability to lie with impunity. Extrovert personality (likes to party). Err possibly an inferiority complex needing highly boosted approval levels to keep in check and membership of a wider group to hide behind or gain a lift in status from. Hence the slavish corporate arse-licking.
*Disclaimer
I am not a psychologist. I am a village idiot.
In order to diagnose personality disorder (and you can look at either ICD-10 or DSM V) you need to see if the traits (not necessarily all) apply. To be accurate you need the relevant training but you can have fun looking and making your own mind up. In order to do a proper job you would also need to have his personal and developmental history, and information about his relationships, especially with parents and partners. There are many types of personality disorder, some with overlapping traits and be aware that clinicians will often not agree on diagnosis. So good luck with that!
I worked within two clinical teams in Broadmoor for 5 years. So I have met plenty of psychopaths.
Could you find the time to do a bit of investigation into Wancock and decide whether or not he really has psychopathic tendencies?I know we non-experts tend to throw the word around in our righteous anger.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder I bet.
Not a psychologist, but he obviously thinks he’s the best thing since sliced bread.
He thinks he’s exempt from basically everything because he’s a Top Gubberment Health Officer battling the Deadliest Pandemic of All Time.
Oh my goodness, the Times’ chief lockdown fan Hugo Rifkind has ACTUALLY had it, and is ACTUALLY able to tell us what it is ACTUALLY like! Funnily enough, in his case, sounds like a bad cold.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/this-is-what-catching-covid-actually-feels-like-qfq7gqzzn
And if you think you’ve “got it”, why even bother going for a test? You wouldn’t bother for the flu: You’d just take the time off work and self medicate with Paracetamol and Ibuprofen until you felt better.
Good grief no, you have to make a song and dance about it, declare it all over social media, wear it like some badge of honour!
I should have added that the only time you probably really need to do something is if you think you need to be in hospital.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/11/cold-winter-how-covid-19-unemployment-has-hit-england-s-fuel-poor-areas
Fuel poverty is adding to the misery of those already suffering the most hardship in lockdown UK
This will lead to further excess deaths, all attributable to the mishandling of the SARS-COV-2 situation.
There was an article I read sometime ago (can’t remember where it was sorry) and one of the comments below pointed out that if people were still forced to work from home into autumn and winter which is essentially now then expect electricity and heating bills to go up the roof.
And if you’re in danger of redundancy then fuel poverty will be a big problem.
Quite right Bart, and the figures are already showing this.
Hence why I believe that the universal winter fuel allowance should be scrapped.
That’s my daughter’s dilema. Her attic flat in a Victorian house is lovely in summer, but it gets very cold in winter. She’s not been too bothered by this before as it only affects her in the evenings, and at weekends, she was usually out for much of the day enjoying herself. Now though it is a different matter. She can’t work in the cold, but her electric boiler central heating system is so so expensive to run. She’s been told that she can claim £6 tax deduction flat rate a week, but her yearly heating bill is going to go from nearly £1,000 a year to god knows what this winter. And it’s not even got cold yet.
I can sympathise with your daughter. Mr Bart & I live in a flat built in 1919, not great but the windows are awful. We were supposed to have them changed this year but this shit show put paid to that.
The draft is awful that even the heating doesn’t make much difference.
About the only thing we did right this year was to get the 2 sets of double doors changed! We were originally going to wait until the summer to have the work done, but the extremely wet autumn made us decide to go ahead anyway. The doors were changed in early Jan – it was a vile wet and windy day, atrocious conditions for the poor fitters! Then along came Feb which was another sh*tshow of wind and rain, and we felt very pleased with out decision.
We like to think the new doors make a difference, but it’s not a big enough difference in reality for her to work comfortably and still be able to pay the bills.
She’s so desperate that she thinks she will come and stay with us if it gets really cold this winter – we’ve got the space still and might as well heat one house rather than two. She’s in her mid 30s so you can tell how desperate she is!!
Better than working in an ice- old office, where the heating is banned in case Covvie gets into it.
Warmth poverty?
It’s become a double edged sword isn’t it?
Yes families will be struggling for extra winter bills and putting food on the table due to government rules, yet BBC strictly and the im a celeb people can still get paid thousands for appearing on TV shows which are permitted. There is something seriously wrong about this!!
The government is at war with the people of this nation. Covid bullshit, Green shite (didn’t vote for this Slippery Pig), Blasphemy and free speech laws trying to be passed through the back door. The final straw for me is, they are now picking on the cash cow that is the Motorist. They are taking away every part of life worth living!
Impact of fuel poverty on excess winter deaths – http://euanmearns.com/the-influence-of-temperature-on-uk-death-rates/ – excess winter deaths caused by inadequate indoor heating – Indoor temperatures of less than 16C increase respiratory risk – hence about 60 to 80 000 extra deaths each winter
Shame where a wealthy country cannot provide its citizens with basic heating – going to get worse if we move away from natural gas heating which provides warmth to 85 % of homes in exchange for expensive and unreliable wind and solar electricity
And of course the irony in your comment is that temperatures of less than 16C increase the risk of respiratory impairment,while all the while ,the Great and the Good have imprisoned us to save us from an apparently world shatteringly lethal respiratory virus.
Add the gagging and associated problems and ,as I keep expostulating- you couldn’t make this up!
Quite true of course, but I think you are all failing to see the positive side of this.
Poor people cant afford to run their heating systems – less co2. Old and infirm people die from hypothermia, stop breathing – less co2.
Cawwie, Greta, and all the other murdering bastards get to live in their green utopia – win, win!
If you can’t join them, beat them.
This is the ludicrousness of the self isolation rules.
I have one child off school due to there being a positive result for another child on their school bus. Then yesterday the other child came home with a letter saying that the school will be closed in 2 days time for 10 days so that the school can be deep cleaned because there has been 11 positive results.
Like I said yesterday – they have completely lost their shit
Deep Cleaning…FFS
Mental.
My former church, now the Tenby Temple of Covidian Terror and Faceless Ghoulery, gets deep-cleaned after every service. Each service lasts about 35 minutes, and the muzzled ghouls are so anti-socially distanced that they need telescopes to see one another. Every one of them knows he or she is a walking bag of death.
Oh dear, Annie. That’s terrible. I haven’t even been to our church since this madness began. We have to book our place by Friday evening, muzzle up and keep away from everyone else. Talk about paranoid. They’ve even stopped ringing the bells. Perhaps it moves the air around too much.
If the PCR tests had never been invented then none of this sh*t would be happening. It’s the teachers and head’s stupidity and gullibility that annoys me most. Do they believe this garbage?
Hysterical.
Never mind deep cleaning, I do hope they are fixing lightning conductors to any high buildings, as we know for a fact that lightning is a greater risk than ‘rona to children.
Don’t usually swear but I’m fucking incensed at Hancock. If we continue this second pointless lockdown so many businesses who’s financial year is based around the takings from Christmas will simply disappear. What a total twat.
I’m honestly sick of the peole living in the south of this country. Loving it because they’re either (currently) insulated financially or on furlough. The puritanical wankers of out local Facebook group make me sick.
Honestly hate this shit country right now. That’s the first time I’ve ever said that. Bungh of tossers.
Lord R
This has had a big impact on me over the last few months. I knew that this country had problems. I knew our political class were not up to scratch but I kept my belief that this country was still a great country.
I’d read Hitchens for years and agreed with his basic premise that the nation has died but it is only now that the reality of it has really hit home.
And there is a bit of grief there, to be honest. (And soft.)
Agree with you. I despise the cowardice of businesses & institutions who lacked the cojones to fight all these. Instead they kowtowed to every insane diktat with some even over egging the pudding by adding their own insanity (ex. no mask, no service, using their staff to bully & harass customers, using Covid safety as an excuse for bad service).
What’s equally bad and worse are colleagues who still buy this crap even when the reality of compulsory redundancy is staring at them in the face.
I’ve lost sympathy with businesses and institutions a long time ago. If they still refuse to wake up and fight, they will deserve to die.
Yes, they will deserve to die, BUT they will drag us all down with them!
And this is why I’m angry with businesses and institutions – they’ll be dragging their employees and the public with them.
Feel the same about Hancock, when are the real Tories going to stand up and remove this school boy. I have relatives in the north, and they are all being so obedient which surprised me, but without exception they are employed by the state, civil servants, schools and nhs, they don’t mine furlough etc, and compared to 4% in the south, 11% in the north are employed byt the state. In the south, neighbours who have a small cafe are now doing takeaway to hold off ruin, just a different perspective.
They won’t rock the boat and risk their gold plated pensions, not until they themselves are impoverished.
Couldn’t agree more. Hancock is completely out of his depth, as is the entire government. I swing between despair and rage on an hourly basis. I am one of the (for now) “financially insulated” ones who people live to criticise, as are my colleagues. We are all against this madness.
Sorry, that should have said “love to criticise”.
Not all southerners are like this – just saying
I can’t even look at Wancock (or spell his name correctly – he must be insulted at every opportunity). I was previously quite patriotic – no more. The majority of the people of this country shame us all.
Agree. All of us running our own businesses may be getting by but only just. Revenue is well down and we can’t take it for ever.
I also do have human feelings for those who can’t get by and if we don’t have a real Christmas with a proper season for those businesses who rely on it then we will all be worse off to a large extent. Money doesn’t grow on trees, despite what Sunak would like us to believe, it is generated from real endeavour.
Exactly the same boat mate…and I’m also a southerner!
When I went up north if anything it seemed to me lockdown love and total sheep like compliance was even worse then where I live down south.
It is and its utterly depressing..if you noticed an unmasked person breathing in fresh air..it was probably me
I live in NE Derbyshire and it is Covid central around here. I hardly ever see another person without a muzzle in the shops, and the number wearing the vile things outside is growing!. I look at these idiots with nothing but contempt.
I’ve been a lifelong monarchist, but no more.
My SNP person has ignored my latest emails; what has become of representation of constituents?
Down the plughole, as they draw their salaries, plus perks.
Exactly how I feel, kh: a troublesome irrelevance.
Perks
For jerks
In the land where nothing works
And a she-devil smirks.
A number of small businesses and self employed, have been living in catch 22 land and FB is one of the main drivers of this IMO. They risk alienating what they see as most of their customers, by saying fuck the rules, we’ll open. From conversations I’ve had, most want to do this. But a perceived public mass of zealots, is keeping them from the final push.
Sorry to hear about the snitching. The spirit of the demonic Stasi is still with us, albeit hopefully not so widespread.
I think a few food and drink businesses may even be run as fronts for criminal activities and money-laundering!
Hobbies? What do they live on then? I am sure you are right though…..especially in posh towns.
I’m totally on board with you. Please don’t fit one minute think that this is a North/South problem though. It isn’t.
The problem is the elites vs the plebs. At the moment they have an army of indoctrinated zombies fighting their cause for them. It won’t last.
So far this year we have suffered three suicides, including my business partner after we lost our business a month ago. I currently have £400k of debt now and no income. I live in the South Coast.
I hear stories like mine more and more each day locally. I don’t know what it will take to wake the people up to the horror that has been unleashed upon us all, I know many are waking up but if there is a mass awakening then there will be absolute hell to pay.
I’d definitely buy a ticket to see PD & Wcock face the music…
I took the liberty of telling 2 zealots about your awful experiences Arnie, without naming you.
All I got in return was a non committal ‘mmmm’.
It’s impossible to breech the covid cognitive dissonance mindset.
Same here. I mention Arnie’s experience to someone but I got the usual “but the virus is still here and cases are going up”
I give up.
Fuck their ‘cases’!
No hyperbole. It’s WW3 and every country is under occupation by (who?). The public face of the occupier is the World Economic Forum led by Klaus Schwab. So many are starting to see what’s happening. It’s not a conspiracy theory anymore
The destruction of the economy is by design so the billionaire class can pick off failed businesses for a snip. The resulting poverty will force millions on to UBI which means the State controls them
The economic, political and cultural landscape is being razed to build the Great Reset = the billionaires concentration camp for us
Perhaps the non essential retailers, pubs, restaurants and cafes should declare a lifetime ban on Hancock?
David Icke on the Labour Party One-Party-State fascistic bid to silence opinions that question vaccine safety
https://davidicke.com/2020/11/16/david-icke-on-the-labour-party-one-party-state-fascistic-bid-to-silence-opinions-that-question-vaccine-safety/
The other day I posted about the experiences of youngest child working as a chef in South Wales. A quick recap:
work colleague wished to see grandmother in hospital
hence decides to have SARS-COV-2 test
result is positive- needs to isolate for 10 days
my son had a lift with him and so needs to isolate for 14 days
Update:
Restaurant where they work seeks advice.
No one seems able to advise them
Owner is forced to make the decision to close the restaurant (they all wear masks in the kitchen) for 14 days
My son has been furloughed (the only relatively good thing as if they hadn’t closed he would have been on SSP of £90 per week).
There is no SarsCov2 test
This is not sustainable.
It’s insane.
Next time get a voodoo priest in to do a ceremony and use that for the HSE risk assessment
BBC article this morning (Six months after LS highlighted this issue, but hey ho)
During April 1,729 people were discharged from hospital to care homes in Wales
53 had tested positive for covid before discharge
‘Research by Public Health Wales later concluded that discharging patients from hospitals into care homes did not increase the risk of coronavirus outbreaks among residents.’
Who made the decision to discharge them. Yes, you guessed it PHW
The corruption is staggering
But you can’t go into a shop without a mask, because ‘that will increase the risk’. Yes, corruption on a grand scale
After the manslaughter of many elderly patients, PHW found themselves “not guilty”.
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/why-covid-19-testing-tragic-waste
Lots of good stuff in here from Dr Merola.
Latest from The Bernician on Facebook:
We chased the chief magistrates office all day today (Monday). We’re still waiting for a reply to two messages and an email, which we were hoping would come some time this evening.
That not being the case, we will continue chasing until we ascertain how far the warrant application has progressed. As soon as we have any news on the PCP, you’ll read it here first. Until then, remember that patience pays the greatest rewards.
Meanwhile, fourteen members of the People’s Union of Britain, who have witnessed the emails which have passed between PUB and the Chief Magistrates office, have pledged to execute witness statements to that effect.
These affidavits will form the basis of defamation and malicious falsehood complaints, against every fraudulent fop who made serious allegations they knew to be untrue, for their own material gain.
Make up your own mind – I am sure you will.
If, like me, you are wondering what the role of Chief Magistrate is, here is an explanation:
https://www.judiciary.uk/about-the-judiciary/who-are-the-judiciary/judicial-roles/judges/chief-magistrate/
Yes, I checked this out before and it is legit.
Sorry for plebness – got a technical forum issue – can anyone help?
I’ve been trying to send some pm’s on there and they are stuck in the Outbox. I’ve tried to send them several times, but they won’t budge.
Anyone know how I can get them sent?
Ta in advance
I had this, it doesn’t move to ‘sent’ until the person has read it
how do you even send/read a PM?
Just tried sending you one, but not sure if it works if you aren’t on the forums. If you click onto the Forums section and if you are logged in you should see little red marks on your notifications and private messages icons.
Oh maybe I’m cleverer than I thought!
Mandatory vaccines will make vaccines worse
The level of hate and propaganda about vaccines makes it impossible for science to develop effective vaccines. This point is effectively made in this academic medical research paper here:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28882443/
Most research suggests vaccines in general have more benefit than risk, but there are risks particularly with autoimmune conditions. Researchers who raise these issues and with a view to improving vaccines are labelled as anti-vax, effectively blocking the development of good vaccines.
Laws against ‘anti vax’ information would also, in reality, stop scientists questioning where vaccines cause harm and thereby prevent improvements.
Just got this in a email from my 3 year olds primary school which up until now had remained reasonably sane
“We have recently been notified that XXXXXXXXXXX Primary School have had to close class bubble’s due to a positive COVID-19 test result.
In response to this, as we are located on their grounds, we would request with immediate
effect that all parents wear a face covering when dropping off and collecting their children.
This is a precautionary measure to help protect yourselves, the children and staff and reduce the risk of COVID-19.”
Really what do they think this will achieve.
They assured me earlier in the year that his teachers would not be wearing face masks and they would not be attempting to impose social distancing on the children. I worry that this may have already changed.
I am starting to feel a real deep hatred towards every fucker that is involved in this from evil MP right down to gormless obedient twat on the street. It is becoming all consuming and I know this is not healthy.
That same email went out from my kids school 3 weeks ago. I carry my exempt card and was challenged once when entering the school. All very courteous.
Compliance at the school gates has been at around 10-15%. It’s a nonsense virtue initiative based on no science. I always carry a spare exempt card with me as I would love someone to aks me why I am not wearing one. I’ll happily inform them its personal choice and provide a magic pass.
Personally I would not use an exemption card. I just say I am exempt if challenged and if that’s not enough then I am happy to take my business elsewhere.
I do not see what the nursery could do other then exclude my child and if they are willing to do that then I think its for the best.
I hope you intend to remain exempt.
On a flippant note what on earth are people responsible for our children’s education doing putting a possessive apostrophe in the plural of bubble?
Reminds me of the worksheet sent home from my children’s private primary about 20 years ago now. They were required to give examples of verbs but the teacher’s efforts included an adjective.
My son was once told that the Dee was not a Welsh river and had his work marked as wrong..
I intend to maintain my dignity and rebel against this tyranny until I am dead.
If there ever is a reckoning and I admit I have little hope at this point I think everybody working with children who has been willing to subject then to abuse needs to be identified and prevented from working with children again.
Hope that it doesn’t come to the mandate for parents to muzzle up.
I wonder if these schools and the teachers are aware that they’re complicit in the abuse of children. Children aren’t stupid, they can pick up what adults are doing. Today’s children will be controlling the finances and care homes of tomorrow.
They have been warned.
Just back from taking my car out for its weekly exercise. Delighted when passing a local school to see a huge crowd of school kids closely packed, unmasked, waiting to cross the busy road. At least one school sees sense – it is a private one so guess can be a bit more flexible.
The primary school near me has been relatively sane as well.Its wonderful seeing them just being children and the teachers not being muzzled or wearing visors.
All I read on today’s update are examples of politicians being ignorant or corrupt, with truth meaning nothing and our lives and liberties even less. We are well and truly shafted.
I forgot one other word…cowardly.
The Pandemic as the German War machine is apt. I have also felt that the industry falling in behind the whole sham – from stock market investors, companies ramping up capacity, purchasing manufacturing capacity, consulting firms, regulators and government departments – all backed by the massive capital injections from the BoE.
It’s created a bubble. A too big to fail initiative. When large companies make such bets they find it almost impossible to turn the ship around as it enters uncharted waters.
Either way, as always, the tax payer will pick up the tab and the wgaed worker will suffer most.
Oh and the masks companies, hand sanitisers, the converted engineering firms now making perspex screens. Even your local community groups now, instead of running events for those they serve, have set up mask making groups and encourage people to stay home save lives.
The mask making groups have become another way to virtue signal. I should know because I know someone who has been boasting about making muzzles as her craft project and from her sewing machine.
More fun to be had! Ask her about filtration; ask her about breathability; ask her about contra-indications of wearing masks made from the fabrics she’s chosen; ask her about whether they are able to be worn by people with sensive skin. Ask her if she puts a label on her masks stating specifically that it cannot protect against covid (because it most certainly can’t). Ask her if her house insurance has agreed to cover her for any issues caused by the masks she’s made (breathing in fibres, for example). Tell her you’ve heard of people who are suing homemade mask-makers because of these issues. These people wouldn’t think twice about having a go at you in a supermarket for not wearing a muzzle. Play them at their own game.
Good questions. And what about when they’re washed? What about the bobbles from the fabrics?
Oh yes! More pollution! And what about the fabrics she used to make these masks? New? Or her old bedlinen? Or old bedlinen found at a chazza? Can she GUARANTEE that she washed them enough that there were absolutely NO germs on them? If the fabrics were new, what about the coatings? Did she pre-wash before making the masks? All those dinky quilting fabrics come with sizing and other protective agents … wouldn’t want people breathing those in, now would we?
Good questions and it got me thinking, whatever happened to the home made ones that were made during the first lockdown. Were they ever handed out or binned?
Its a joint effort to keep up the threats, against the people of this country. It really is like a world wide experiment to see what works. Different countries doing different things. Constant threats in this country, carrots and sticks. NZ stuck on their island, but, life goes on uninterrupted, while they think the outside world is being kept at bay they are ok with it, everything open, shops, theatre, cinema’s, schools, businesses, Family life.
But getting muzzles https://covid19.govt.nz/health-and-wellbeing/protect-yourself-and-others/wear-a-face-covering/
Honestly, are people really taking notice of what idiots like Hancock and Tim “nice but dim” Jenrick are saying anymore. The streets and roads are busy and people are mingling, only the old and silly are wearing masks. And as for Christmas, well, just try you loathsome commies..
Unfortunately, the pubs have to take notice of these arseholes and, the madness in our schools is symptomatic of the position of the lawyers and insurers, who actually run the country, because some clever dick thought it would be a good idea to allow no win; no fee.
I loved nothing more than going into a back street pub for a swift pint of “mild” at the bar, unfortunately (and as an ex Camra member) , not with the present diktats..
Yes -if you watch Midsummer Murders you get all nostalgic for the crowded pubs with standing rom only.
Exactly. We can only ignore what we are physically able to ignore which is nowhere near enough. I can’t force pubs, restaurants, concert halls to be open.
I am pleased to see everyday around here a lot of cars that don’t belong to the residents parked up on drives. I’m glad my neighbours seem to be having visitors.
This is the problem we face.How to translate the general disdain for the regulations into a movement to overturn every last one of them.
Anyone remotely excited about a vaccine for a cold virus that poses minimal risk to the majority of people and should be battled by allowing the healthy population to develop natural herd immunity should be VERY AWARE of the company boasting the “first successful vaccine”. They are utterly unscrupulous. Criminal. So far paid $4.7 billion in fines. $35 million alone in fines for taking bribes and kickbacks. It’s an expensive operation being a vile, murderous drug dealer – where do you think they get their revenue from. Wake up!
https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/pfizer
This is terrifying. Words (almost) fail me.
MPs should be told about this.
I sent it to Caroline Lucas last night. She has been engaging with me. Please send the link to your MP. However, it is widely known. Pharma companies just buy people’s silence. It’s a well-oiled machine. Do you know how many people chemotherapy kills? Offer it to people by all means but tell them the side effects!! No, that’s all been hushed up. What about the number of people killed by the polio vaccine in one trial? Go look that one up. You’ll cry!
The scary thing is how widely known this is. Pharma companies have been hushing up and putting out fires for years. Who do you think pushes the “anti-vaxxer” label?! Most of us are not blanket “anti-vaxxers” we are SAFE vaxxers and totally against medicine for profit. Medicine for profit should be illegal. Public funds for public health ONLY. But it’s the biggest industry in the world. The poetic irony is that they normally do their dodgy testing on unsuspecting, innocent populations in Africa and India (look up number of deaths from HPV vaccine trials in young girls in India). This time, the hysteria is so hyped up, they will be getting enough willing volunteers for wealthier privileged classes. Leave them to it. As long as they leave the rest of us alone!
Jesus wept. This is bad and what’s worse is of course there are enough gullible and desperate people who will believe these snake oil salesmen.
Flag it up on Toby’s ‘got a story’ link.
People wouldn’t buy a used car from a company with a record like that. I took place in Pfizer drug test when on pain medication a few years ago, It was a total sham. The drug made me so ill I was hospitalised but it was never recorded as a side effect. I was said to have ‘dropped out for other reasons’. They are vile.
Great books to read
Don’t know if this has been posted before
Two veterans arrested on Remembrance Sunday
Our country is being eradicated
https://youtu.be/JxBI2fTZgMw
Disgraceful, notice how they did not try to mob wrestle the two big fellas to the ground as is their habit.
Wales publishes its daily count by local authority (https://public.tableau.com/profile/public.health.wales.health.protection#!/vizhome/RapidCOVID-19virology-Public/Headlinesummary).
There is a row at the bottom for those not resident in Wales, the significance of which became apparent in October when non-residents appeared in large numbers: the non-Welsh students.
Powys has always been rumoured to be unrealisticaly low as most of its hospital facilities are in England.
It should be clear to those using this data for setting lockdown policy that it is now of limited use. If it wasn’t, they should have asked.
For much of Powys, the principal English hospital is in Hereford, which is an area of very low incidence in any case; another favourite is in the rump of Monmouthshire, also a ‘low’ area; and Shrophsire is hardly plague-ridden for anyone sent off to Shrewsbury….
Powys is a large, thinly populated rural area with only a modest tourist trade. Enough said.
One briefly pleasant encounter just now in the dismal Central Belt: Sainsbury’s delivery brought to my door by an extremely pleasant young woman who told me that she enjoys her job.
We chatted while I collected all my stuff: she wasn’t wearing a mask!
A cheerful bare face to communicate with.
Little things mean such a lot now, in these benighted times.
I was skateboarding in a local park yesterday when a beautiful older woman had a brief conversation with me.
Why did I think she was beautiful? Because of her smile and evident joy in life.
Probably laughing at the absurdity of a 40+ man skateboarding too.
Good for you,and her!
It’s great to be absurd and to be laughed at, in a nice way. And enjoying yourself is a must, in a world where THEY want you to be miserable.
Yep, air in the lungs and a smile on my face. Can’t beat it.
Many people talking about how illogical the ‘rules’ are.
Biderman in the 1950s developed a ‘coercion chart’, which I posted here on Saturday.This was the product of his studies of the psychological torture of US POWs in the Korean War.
One section of this is ‘Enforcing Trivial Demands’
Does that sound familiar?
Having illogical, contradictory and ever-changing rules keeps the subject puzzled, frustrated and off-balance, unable to predict what may happen next.
It is easy to get caught up in discussing the illogicality and inconsistency of rules Why can’t I do this? Why must I do that?
Cut through the Gordian knot.
It’s all bullshit.
I’ve shown the screenshot of that chart to a number of people, it does not take much spelling out for them to see the similarities.
The greatest surprise is when I tell them it dates from the 1950’s.
Calchas, could you please repost that chart? I’d like to use it to show others too.
Here’s a relevant New Yort Times article, which shows how the tecniques described were also used at Guantanamo.
Guantanamo, was the last instance before this one, which I can find, where masks and anti-social distancing were enforced on people.
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/02/us/02detain.html
BBC R4 9am The Long View
Discussing Anti Vaxxers right now, disparaging probably a better word
They are already starting to call anti vaxxers “far right” in the msm and bbc.
Their favourite slur.
Damn. I thought they meant we are by far right. Terribly insulted now.
An ‘anti-vaxxer’ used to be someone who was against all vaccinations, almost on principle.
Now, an ‘anti-vaxxer’ is someone, who questions any vaccine for any reason.
Yes, we are being associated with anti vaxers.
There’s something to be pleased about, anyway …
As was warned we are moving to a faceless NHS. Broken leg? Been in a car crash? Phone ahead and we’ll book you a spot for your convenience
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-54963437
Perhaps better described as a withdrawal of the A&E service.
Happening in Ayrshire and Arran now.
https://www.nhsaaa.net/news/latest-news/right-care-right-place/
In Worcestershire you are asked to pre book for A&E!
No mention in today’s update of last night’s C4 programme on the test labs. Only saw a few snippets but what I did see confirmed my view that the labs are a shambles and strong evidence that all the false positives are very very real. No doubt the rest of the media will conveniently ignore it.
Ignore it? Certainly they want as many cases as possible. I work for a major research lab which is probably the highest rated lab of its kind in the world (I can’t say more because I want to keep getting paid) and our biggest problem is getting quality lab staff, so where are they finding the staff for these labs?
I guess they are just whoever they can get from the employment agencies no experience of working in a lab no understanding of clean room procedures, no understanding of anything. They will be completely useless twats on minimum wage and temporary contracts.
Certainly. My memory from a long time ago now is that RNA contamination can happen extremely easily. No point wearing gloves if you scratch your nose!
That’s exactly what Dispatches found; inexperienced staff, multiple examples of possibilities for cross contamination of swabs, (including infecting the staff working there), preferment of private business paying for results over the ordinary test centre swabs, leading to backlogs and test centre results waiting more than 24 hours, and inefficient process so that test centre swabs from England were sent to N Ireland, thus also increasing turn around times. It looked like an omni-shambles.
Useless twats?Ideal for the job.
Mrs leggy is a retired geneticist who used to perform a lot of PCR with respect to plant genetics. She watched the programme and called me in with a “Come and look at this!”.
She was absolutely shocked by the practices she saw. I paraphrase but:
“Any scientist watching this, regardless of their branch of expertise, must surely now question the entire validity of this testing. If they don’t, then that’s extremely worrying”.
Put it all into context with the known high CT (you can find anything in anyone) and the entire thing descends far beyond farce.
Would Mrs Leggy write for us here?
I can but ask.
The bar was set when they never classified and measured Covid-19 with sufficient precision. When they changed reporting and left it up to doctor’s own judgement without allowing for elimination tests.
The vaguery of symptoms and broad attribution all violate Popper’s rules on falsification, a bedrock of modern science.
But then if you want to say black is white and 2+2=5 it was perfect.
Saw this Dispatches C4 program by chance.
They uncovered serious cronyism and the award of 100s of millions of Pounds contracts without Parliamentary scrutiny. Dido Harding is on the board of the jockey club, also involved at Newmarket races and very well connected to Hancock (it is in his constituency). Hancock is also heavily involved with Newmarket races and obviously connect with Dido there (they did not talk about in in the program).
There is also a crony connection with the Random Laboratories in Northern Ireland.
Serco is also on the take, multi-million contract awarded to them, but they outsourced it to a lot of other companies, some debt collection agencies. As it is taxpayers money, they tried to establish who these ‘other companies’ were. PHE did not want to provide the information and when they contacted Serco, they also stated that they will not provide the information.
Are we talking about major fraud and enrichment?
Not to worry, Dido’s husband is the Tory MP John Penrose and has been serving as the UK Anti-Corruption Champion since 2017; he will obviously make sure any fraudulent activity is immediately eliminated and the wastage of our tax money will be stopped
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/15/chumocracy-covid-revealed-shape-tory-establishment
Handy graphics of the spider webs in yesterday’s Guardian, with figures in the contract values.
Just listening to the Piers Morgan interview with Hancock – it is hilarious – Hancock comes across as a complete idiot.
Just the image of those two ghouls was enough for me.
That’s because he is!
Two of the most odious men to walk this planet, that takes some doing to reach those dizzy heights!.
Too generous – ‘incomplete idiot’.
I see that the propaganda machine is going full steam ahead for effectively banning xmas now. Sage and public health England telling us that if we dare to imagine we can see our families for Xmas, (let alone flatlining the economy) think again.
Will this insanity never end?
Ignore them for now, then chase them, then put them in front of a peoples court, then look forward to seeing them on the scaffold..
I’m still of the opinion that there will be some opening up for Christmas.I can’t see the Government attempting to enforce a lockdown,which most people will ignore and is impossible to police.
That being said I can see the messaging coming out of sage and elsewhere and fully expect us to be back in lockdown in the New year.
For “not following the rules” over Christmas.
That will be on johnsons instructions, he will emerge from isolation as The Man Who Saves Xmas for a Grateful Nation.
There’s a ditch he can die in.
Presumably Parliament will soon need to consider what happens after this current lock-down ends. I am currently drafting a report to my MP with the aim of challenging the whole concept of Public Health action by Statutory Instruments formulated under the Public Health act.
My report ignores any consideration of cases/dodgy test results on the basis that any consideration of legal Public Health action should be solely based on serious hospital cases and deaths. In my view on both those counts the case for continuing statutory action against this virus is looking very threadbare.
You do not seem to be able to attach documents to these comments otherwise I would have attached it.
But anyway with a decision coming up soon I think we need to do all we can to challenge the whole idea of Public Health action by legal statutory instruments, it is unprecedented in my lifetime and is now not justified by the current situation.
Politicians don’t work for us. They work instead for the ruling class, the billionaires
The greedy careerists among them naively believe a seat is reserved for them at the World Economic Forum’s table
For me Christmas has always been saved. I will do exactly what I want to do. I have stopped listing to anything the government says in about ….March?.. Nobody can tell me who I can have or not in my own fucking house !!
“It’s not funny, it’s not fr****n’ funny.
I’ve had enough of that ‘if you don’t laugh you’ll cry’.
“I’ve heard it for years. This stupid soddin’ city’s full of it.
“Why don’t you fight back, you b*****d? Fight back.
Boys from the Black Stuff
If only we could stage an introduction between ‘Shake Hands’ and that pathological liar and bald tyre extraordinaire Hankook, now that would be well worth watching!
“I’m desperate, Dan.”. An all time great line.
Hancock stated that asymptomatic people pass on COVID – I thought that this was incorrect. Evidence in an academic paper that I have seen suggests that this doesn’t happen. Anyone know if this does happen?
We all know he doesn’t have to tell the truth. Nobody in the MSM will challenge the lie.
Of course if asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic transmission doesn’t occur, or only does so with minimal viral load which doesn’t cause significant issues in anyone with any sort of working immune system, then it confirms most of the interventions are meaningless (and in some cases harmful) apart from staying at home if you have covid symptoms, and perhaps testing and completely separating symptomatic covid+ and other patients in hospitals, and similar measures in care homes.
Masks (regardless of their general non-efficacy) are irrelevant as you won’t be out of your home if you have symptoms.
And no need to quarantine if coming from abroad or isolate if someone in the household has symptoms, unless or until you yourself get symptoms
Closing pubs and restaurants is irrelevant as you won’t be in the pub if you have symptoms. And so social distancing and disinfecting protocols are broadly irrelevant too.
Stopping the meeting others in their houses will be irrelevant as you don’t meet up if someone has covid like symptoms.
And so on.
So the government have to keep on with the asymptomatic transmission position despite the very weak evidence of it happening (some Chinese publications which have been questioned I understand).
And if the government had just said stay at home if you have symptoms, and we will support you financially if you do, then assuming asymptomatic transmission isn’t of any material relevance and people do stay at home when with symptoms, then that would be all that was needed.
It’s a simple but very plausible explanation of the evidence that lockdowns don’t work.
Great post. So true
When this asymptomatic nonsense first started getting brought up, I looked into it and found this paper:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2646474/
The conclusion tells you what we already know:
A mate commented on the farce yesterday. He asked if a year ago you could imagine making this phone call:
“Morning boss, I’m not coming in to today. I’ve got the flu, but I don’t have any symptoms”.
Back in May or June WHO said asymptomatic transmission was very rare, it was quickly suppressed!
Early on, Fauci said:
“In all the history of respiratory-borne viruses of any type, asymptomatic transmission has never been the driver of outbreaks.”
The WHO have been very vague on the topic. Here’s the latest I can find on who.int (dated 2020-07-09):
“Four individual studies from Brunei, Guangzhou China, Taiwan China and the Republic of Korea found that between 0% and 2.2% of people with asymptomatic infection infected anyone else, compared to 0.8%-15.4% of people with symptoms.”
It’s also important to distinguish between asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic. Here’s the WHO again:
“What is the difference between people who are asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic? Don’t they both mean someone without symptoms?
Yes, both terms refer to people who do not have symptoms. The difference is that asymptomatic refers to people who are infected but never develop symptoms during the period of infection while pre-symptomatic refers to infected people who have not yet developed symptoms but do go on to develop symptoms later.
This distinction is important for public health strategies to control transmission. For example, laboratory data suggests that people might be the most infectious at or around the time they develop symptoms. Therefore, in WHO’s case investigation and contact tracing guidance, it is recommended that people be considered ‘contacts’ if they had contact with an infected person from 2 days before that he/she developed symptoms.”
Without “asymptomatic transmission” the whole house of cards falls down.
It really does. I asked my local council covid idiots about whether they could provide me with ONE peer reviews bit of evidence that clearly shows asymptomatic transmission of SARS2CoV has happened between people. I bet they they cannot provide any clear evidence.
Not that that matters, I am sure they will just ignore me or palm me of with some old bollocks.
The World Health Organisation stated that asymptomatic transmission is “very rare” and added that they did not know of any definitely confirmed case.
However, Professor Boris Johnson told parliament that seventy percent of the transmission of the virus is asymptomatic. He did not cite any evidence, but he did add the nice rhetorical flourish: “as you all know” which means it must be true.
“Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am — not stuck in the middle, but hovering above the entire farcical spectrum, weeping as I behold my fellow man’s devotion to political illusion and self-destruction.”
― Robert Higgs
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I have volunteered for this- anyone else?
Thank you – have sent them a message.
Sorry to be negative, but I find myself a little sceptical about this group. They have been around for weeks and only sent out a few emails. Their website is not much more than a set of placeholders which has changed very little over the weeks. Would someone who represents them care to make a defence?
I don’t represent them, but things like this take time, resources, and effort to set up and get running.
I recall Boris once claimed that he was “bursting with spunk” and no doubt believes antibodies and spunk are one and the same thing, having had the benefit of a classical education.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6S17AEci08&feature=emb_logo
Woman tasered and arrested after refusing to put on a mask as a spectator at an outdoor sporting event in Ohio, USA.
Anyone here getting fed up with being treated by family, friends and colleagues as lepers? Of course they will deny this and claim that they’re doing this to protect you but the cynic in me wonders if they’re using the ‘rona as an excuse not to socialise with you or avoid you altogether. I’m reaching the point now where I can do without with certain people.
Sadly, I’m at that point too. I wonder if some of my friendships were ever friendships at all.
True and it brings to mind that saying that goes that you find out who the real friends are in times of crisis.
I try and see it as an opportunity to learn about peoples true nature. I have learnt more about some people in the last 6 months then I had learned in the last 20 years of knowing them.
My relatives barely communicate now.
Most depressingly, the friend with whom I do regular walks-a Nicola follower and lockdown adherent-opined yesterday, when I recounted the tale of the hapless London pastor :
https://www.mylondon.news/news/uk-world-news/this-essential-service-provide-police-19284735
that he should have followed the rules.
So, I find myself, an atheist, supporting the pastor, while she, a committed Christian condemns him.
The world has turned upside down.
Agree that the world has turned upside down.
I read that story and whilst not a believer I applaud that pastor who has been true to the message of Christ than the spineless cowards in the Church of England.
‘ Committed Christian’ now usually means ‘committed Covidian’.
This happened tome during the first lockdown. My best friend deserted me, my cleaner fled and the only person I saw was a church lady who carried the heavy rubbish out for me at great speed. This time my new cleaning lady is coming as normal amd my new friend is willing to visit.
Very sad to hear that but at least you’ve found new friends.
The reaction to this virus will be killing plenty of babies in the third world due to economic deprivation and lack of access to vaccinations that are tried and tested (as opposed to the present attempts at warding off an illness with an IFR no worse than a bad flu season).
And we’re seeing this in developing countries where infanticide could be making a comeback, children being pulled out of school to go to work and desperate adults turning to prostitution.
Indeed. Very worrying!
It is. I was reminded of charities lobbying for the boycott of clothing factories in Bangladesh years ago. A few months’ later, a charity visited to see how everything was going and to their horror they found that many former employees had turned to prostitution and drug muling to get by.
It’s a prime example of selfish ‘conscience’. It doesn’t cost you a dime, and you go about in a comfortable glow of virtue, while the people actually affected go to perdition.
Very sorry to hear that.
I have a friend who while I appreciate that she’s been making the effort to chat online has not been willing to meet in person while is happy to meet others. I’ve decided to pull back and any plans for future meetings when this is all over in abeyance.
Not quite treated as a leper, but more an annoyance. I have half the family who are sceptical but compliant. No matter what information is put in front of them they will not read it, they simply glaze over or change the topic. They really don’t want to know.
the other half are a combination of zealots and ostriches. Both want to avoid anything unpleasant so go along with the narrative. The more I show them the deeper they shove their heads in the sand.
It has been a fascinating and infuriating few months in terms of human behaviour. If I wasn’t already sceptical about the attitudes and intelligence of the ‘herd’ I think I would have had nervous breakdown by now.
Final note: If what we are all seeing and experiencing is something akin to what the elites see when they look at the masses then I can understand (up to a point) any inclination some of them may have for population control/reduction. Most of the people around us are literally NPC’s.
I got thrown out of my family’s What’s App group because I keep posting ” dangerous , covid denier, anti vaxxer , wacko propaganda” according to my sister in law. Well…there it is…I guess at least my wife tolerates me and she is getting to the sceptic side more and more.
Probably better for you not to be in that group. If your SIL thinks you’re a denier and a wacko, what will she say when the shit finally hits the fan for her and its too late?
One good thing about Covid has been that my sister in law no longer speaks to me after a row over it. She is a truly horrible woman and always has been so its a blessing not to have to ever see her again. She is a total zombie and has not been out of the house since February. Well thats a gain for the world!
Absolutely, I must say though that over the past say 20 years, I have become more and more cynical and distrustful of people. There are far too many selfish morons who only want or need you when it suits them or you fit into their agenda. In my case this includes family not just so called friends. I will clarify that I am a decent and caring person and therefore can get really upset at being treated like crap.
Sorry for my woe is me post, not in a good place today.
I know how you feel because like you I can get rather upset if I’m being treated like crap.Agree with you as well about people who will only want and need you when it suits them or fits their agenda. I’ve come to the conclusion that I don’t fit these agendas so best to pull back and let the friendship die a natural death.
I was reading an article where that Countryfile lady was claiming that this pandemic has brought out the best in people. To which I would reply bollocks and poppycock.
How can anyone seriously think that with all the swerving and snitching and intolerance?
Due to the on-going psy-op on people’s minds over the last 20 years I don’t have any friends and I don’t really talk to my extended family. My relationship with my brother and parents is not good either. They believe…..
I don’t really exist.
Have not really spoken to my family either and have pretty much unfollowed them on anti-social media as you can imagine how all hell will break loose if I make a comment about muzzles and especially a 5 and 3 year old kid having to wear them.
Such wickedness making small children wear them.
You dont really need them….I have ditched my brother over this…sod them.
Pretty much found out all my ‘friends’ were in name only. Thankfully, I have a very close family.
I have found family are much worse than friends!
I can do without zombies.I’m doing just fine without zombies.
True. Unfortunately i have to work with some of them.
We’ve dropped quite a few people over this Covidiocy after being drawn into mask arguments (of course they work, you’re just selfish!) and pro-lockdown arguments “to be safe!). Sick of the whole sniveling lot.
Packed stadium of maskless fans in China;
https://twitter.com/RadioSavana/status/1327167016457957376
And in Taiwan https://www.narcity.com/en-ca/news/taiwan-ultra-music-festival-is-what-happens-when-you-dont-have-any-covid19-in-200-days
They are laughing at the West!
But they’re tracked, traced and controlled by China’s social credit system. They’re not free
Neither are we
Can anyone point me in the direction of a concise and objective table of mortality probability by age and comorbidity for the UK that is up to date please.
I saw one for Scotland, and obviously have out of date versions.
It seems that printing this off and flyposting is the only way to go, as so many people genuinely believe this to be far worse than it is.
https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/wisconsin-state-agency-tells-employees-to-wear-masks-during-zoom-calls-even-if-home-alone
Logic went out the window months ago
3 months ago. No harm in laughing at it again, I guess.
Don’t know if it’s been posted on here yet. The video was on Column UK yesterday
A 19year old female arrested in Truro
She was addressing a small group of people.
Was she inciting the group to attack the police…. No
Was she advocating revolution …….. No
In measured tones she was stating that the arts and creativity are central to the human condition and should not be banned
For this crime against the dictatorship she was dragged off by the Stasi
She was held in a cell for 24 hours
Whilst in custody she was interrogated at length, presumably in an effort to get her to denounce other art lovers
Below is the email address of the Police and Crime Commissioner for Devon and Cornwall
If you do nothing else today stand in Solidarity with this courageous young lady and e mail
opcc@devonandcornwall.pnn.police.uk
Do you have a link for the video(s)
The hyped up one was actually an Inspector (braid on his cap peak) although it is difficult to tell as he was hiding his insignia (I wonder why? I to would be ashamed of myself I behaved like that)
Her arrest
https://youtu.be/1MTuA9-aqCs
Watch from 39.10. The Police Inspector is hysterical and keeps shouting ‘a bubbles been formed’ before attacking people
He clearly has mental health problems. He should not be in uniform let alone in charge
Yes,there is something seriously wrong with him,in fact there is something seriously wrong with a lot of coppers all over the country.From the videos I have seen,the uncalled for aggression,which often seems to appear out of nowhere in an instant and the robotic lack of humanity and empathy implies the use of some kind of behaviour altering substance to me.
that substance being our education system or lack thereof
I know, disgusting. I’m convinced the police are being fed drugs or it’s the mask that turns people into some sort of animal, lack of oxygen, common purpose indoctrination???. Also see the community police officer talking to the chap videoing the situation. She is clearly working from a script, hiding behind her mask, complete lack of empathy, human feeling, sympathy. Sad.
Do these police realise they are being manipulated and used. Surely they have families.
Decades ago the Guardian would publish articles about these types of abuses in China
Do we have any idea what specific law she was held under? was it one of the Public Health act statutory instruments? There was a post yesterday which I cannot now find about your rights etc. under these statutory instruments, I am not a great demonstrator but if I was going to anything I think it would be as well to have a good idea of the legal position. The whole legal case for all these actions is looking quite shaky to my mind.
Cops on steroids
I think they are, imo during lockup they have been trained and brainwashed into fighting us. No longer the ‘boys in blue’ dress them like soldiers and they act like soldiers.
They’ve been like that for years look back to the miners strikes in the 80s and how football fans are treated now they’re coming for the general public
Remember the Beanfield attack on the crusties, savage.
I hope this story is picked up on and shared around the world.
Public respect for the Police is being tested
The UK Column covered this yesterday.
The young woman arrested got charged with:
Encouraging/Assist in the Comission of an either way offence believing it will be comimitted-Serious Crime Act 2007
Bail conditions: Not to Facilitate Encourage or actively promote the breach of COVID_19 Restrictions
Bail conditions: To prevent further offences and protect the public
This is really shocking and deserves a headline here tomorrow.
The police are picking off brave dissidents from small groups with of course MSM complicity.
On talk radio this pm Lawrence Fox said he was prepared to defy the rules and be arrested at a demo if we stay locked down in December .
We need to stand up and be counted pursue the police bullies in the courts for damages.
Appears they now accept the police fines are unenforceable.
Done..
Anyone else think that Hancock is being teed up as the fall guy in Boris’ absence?
No. It is the nation and all its citizens that are being teed up for a fall. Our politicians have already crowned themselves kings and the people have clapped and cheered.
Agreed; I’ve suspected for some time now that he’s being set up as the Useful Idiot, the Fall Guy who can be ridiculed and pilloried-rightly so-while his wily colleagues figure out a way out of the mess.
Deniability has always been favoured in establishment circles the world over.
No. He’s a monster. I thought originally that he was just going to be a “useful idiot” who would take the rap but I’ve moved away from that position. My next thought was that he was wicked, but I fear I have moved beyond that to the view that he is evil. I fear he is actively promoting misery and death. He frightens me.
If he is, he deserves it, for being such a massive tool
A really good update today. Guy de la Bédoyère’s interesting thoughts permit me to post the Corbett Report’s emmense work on the out break of WW1. It goes into detail of how the war was contrived and by who, parallels to today can be drawn as Guy does. It is thought provoking and well researched.
https://www.corbettreport.com/wwi/
It’s sad that we are only taught such a basic narrow view of WW1 and WW2 in the UK and that this is reinforced by the mainstream media.
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UK Government has made life under ‘Covid’ unlivable. Human suffering is catastrophic.
Whilst assisted suicide and humane methods of ending life are illegal we can still die of poverty, hunger, loneliness, cancelled medical treatment, homelessness, despair and desperation
There is no place for humanity in the Great Reset
Millions do care, but don’t know what to do about it
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Re: Fear Starmers call to ban all “anti vax” voices. How does this work within the Labour Parties drive to make Big Pharma more transparent? Seems a bit conflicted to me..
https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Medicines-For-The-Many.pdf
I thought at the time, that my home town was making a rod for it’s own back. The results appear to be:
Positive tests 0.4%
Acknowledged error rate 0.4%
Prevalence in population that has previously triggered tier 3 lockdown 400 per 100,000. I.e. 0.4%.
As far as I can see, as long as it keeps mass testing, Liverpool can never come out of lockdown.
It’s a PCR test pandemic or casedemic. The sheeple are too stupid to ask what a case is
“In terms of the unfavourable comparison of Sweden to the death rates of its neighbours”
Whenever this comes up can we bridge and compare Belgium to Germany and the Netherlands.
IT’s time to nail this particular framing trickery once and for all.
Even the comparison to it’s neighbours doesn’t hold water though. I checked euromomo yesterday and Sweden has better than average all cause mortality than Norway and Denmark right now. All three are on or about the baseline. Only Finland is doing significantly better and that’s not “covid related” because it’s all cause.
A very good comparator for Sweden is Scotland. Similar climate/latitude. Similar density, with a populated bit & then loads of nothing. Sweden has 2x the population but not hugely different.
Plus – other differences in factors:
Higher immigrant population in Sweden than rest of Scandi.
Larger care homes.
Many care home workers worked at multiple homes – spreaders.
Previous winter in Sweden was also milder I think, in terms of deaths, than in other Scandinavian countries – ‘tinder effect’.
Re Masks at school
Notice of Liability for Schools
You can serve this notice to your school principal/head
This document can be downloaded, though in PDF, you can copy and paste the contents into a word document to add the necessary personal and relevant information.
https://covileaks.co.uk/the-documents?fbclid=IwAR2MerXfa3-AGAi_bey8f5Z2KlQYLRiiCsbMYwYoJ_VOjPDbvChBx0ZBE_g
If you have permitted the school to force your child to wear a face covering you have already failed as a parent. Trying to make the school liable for the harm caused is not going to protect your child from harm.
It makes me wonder if teachers and schools actually hate children
If I had a child I would not allow a school to damage my child’s emotional and physical health with face masks
Speak out about this scam…& get suspended/sacked.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/nhs-nurse-suspended-after-branding-23020112
Yikes … is that journalist trying to get the elites’ attention or what?
I can’t disagree with anything she says, truth obviously hurts!
I suspect the notion that Sweden’s Covid policy was predicated on herd immunity was a myth believed largely by non-Swedish lockdown sceptics. It’s more likely that the Swedes believed that whatever restrictions they passed would have to be sustainable until there was a vaccine, because harsher restrictions would merely postpone deaths until after the restrictions were lifted (especially if they had such an effect on mental health that people went nuts when they were lifted).
Perhaps Sweden’s harder line now is because they understand that the falling case and death rates in spring were largely due to the seasonality of the illness (which is why they’re increasing now even though Sweden hasn’t really relaxed any of its restrictions) and that harder restrictions will save lives as well as being tolerated by the public because we’re so much closer to a vaccine now.
It’s just stronger recommendations in one area isn’t it? I get MSM and bedwetters are creaming themselves at hearing this but it’s hardly a massive departure from what is already in place.
Euromomo shows all cause mortality in Sweden flatlining.
https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/
Coronaviruses are seasonal, which means that more people will die after having ‘tested positive’.
Doesn’t mean they died of something called covid-19.
There is no evidence that an illness ‘covid-19’ is increasing in frequency, or that it even still exists.
all cause mortality in sweden currently running below 5 year average
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Sweden#cite_note-hitta-statistik-308
This October saw the 2nd lowest number of deaths for an October here – in the whole of Swedish history!
Giesecke seemed to think it would be a long time before there was any kind of truly effective vaccine and did not think tighter lockdowns would solve anything.
It will be interesting to see what happens if Löfven passes his law *despite* falling ICU levels and with deaths being below average, and with him clearly being in disagreement with Tegnell. Also how Swedes will take this..many do not actually do any research for themselves.
I suspect Löfven has been emboldened by Biden’s ‘victory’ in the election – the media here is very anti-Trump.. (though if you talk to a lot of Swedes, there are more pro-Trump people than the media would lead you to believe)
ONS weekly mortality just out
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales
slight rise on last week. would not warrant a single measure in any normal year
Quality of life doesn’t matter though
What counts as slight? Mortality is 20% (1900) above 10-year mean, 1200 above 10-year historic maximum. Mortality will continue to grow for another week or two until Tiers and Lockdown play out up to 25-50% above mean.
Are we now seeing the rise in deaths caused by delayed/nonexistent treatment for cancer, heart conditions etc during 1st lockdown?
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Not yet, CV deaths have remained stable. Oncology will rise, but this is following mortality from deaths withing 28 days of test for COVID19
It’s very noticeable that with the vaccine push beginning in earnest, resistance is now being responded to much more regularly with accusations of being “anti-vaxxer”, even if vaccination itself is not part of the immediate conversation. This is of course no accident or chance occurrence.
We must always bear in mind that:
1 Broadcast and print media, as well as the BBC operate as propaganda vehicles for the elites who run them, and for the government when it is in line with those establishment views;
2 The panic response to covid is driven by professionals in behavioural manipulation and propaganda with essentially unlimited state funding and the power of the state behind them;
3 The technique and process of smearing and delegitimising dissenters is well established, and one the BBC and other manipulative bodies and outlets have used for half a century and more against those with politically incorrect opinions that the establishment wished to suppress. “Anti-vax” and “far right” are essentially the same as “sexist”, “racist”, “homophobe” etc used by the BBC since the mid-C20th.
The technique is basically one of systematically flexible meaning. When the smear terms are being constructed and in order to imbue them with sufficiently demonic evilness in the popular eye, they are applied to the worst, most extreme, irrational, nasty or outright evil cases. Then, with the negative connotations in place, the definition is expanded to include the moderates with views that are intended to be demonised by association. The attitudes, structures and policies set up to deal with the extreme cases can then be applied to those moderates, or they can be intimidated by the threat of that being done. If the unreasonableness of this is pointed out, the definition retreats to the safe ground of the worst cases. “Don’t you think these people are bad and should be controlled? You must be one of them, or a sympathiser.”. It’s a form of the fallacy known as motte and bailey
In the case of anti-vax, much of the demonisation work has already been done in the course of past political contests over vaccination policy.
The force of this attack should not be underestimated, merely because it is so cynically dishonest. It worked to make what were once commonly held opinions in this country (indeed throughout most of human history and most cultures) into demonised extremism outside the Pale of acceptable discourse, and made it impossible to effectively advocate for even moderate views which then became the “extreme end” of acceptability, and thus through the later C20th it warped public policy and law in this country in favour of radicalism and infringement of basic rights to liberty and speech.
What can be done? Well, the record shows that this propaganda approach is likely to be successful. It has been in the past. All we can do is learn from that.
But one good start would be to push for ending the BBC’s privileged position. There should be no state broadcaster or news service – any such is inherently a tool for propaganda and manipulation.
Another would be to attack the very notion of government engaging in opinion management and behavioral manipulation. These are antithetical to both liberty and democracy. If they are going to engage professional manipulators to impose compliance, they should at least have to do it secretly and illegally.
Agreed but their manipulation of the language didn’t work with Brexit.
Indeed, though not for lack of trying. I still recall the numerous attempts to have Farage and others harassed by the police for “racism” of various kinds.
Brexit and the 2016 Trump election are the only two major strikes back, against the tide that has otherwise flowed pretty uniformly in their direction throughout the anglosphere for decades.
Add ‘conspiracy theorist’ and ‘climate denier’ to the list.
Indeed. “Conspiracy theorist” is a smear term par excellence, and any kind of “denier” is generally on the list of dishonest political smears.
Interesting article on anti vaxxers.
https://www.ukcolumn.org/
The last US Administration, apparently, used to call Boris Johnson a “shape-shifting creep”. When i was at college in the early 90`s, David Icke was a figure of fun for us students, but now, as someone well into middle age, I can only agree with much with what Icke has written. Savile, political child abuse, nwo, censorship, vaccine fascism ; these are just a few nasties which have come to pass.
However, would be interested to know as to whether the likes of Boris and Hancock are actually “non -human” in some way, the evidence seems overwhelming.
A good metaphor:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/victorlipman/2013/04/25/the-disturbing-link-between-psychopathy-and-leadership/
Getting to the top in business and politics requires that you be ready to sacrifice personal relationships and all of lifes little joys for the purpose, because there is tremendous no holds barred competition for such positions.
Therefore, such people, for whom those things have very little meaning anyway, have a huge advantage.
Erich Fromm wrote a book called ‘To have or to be?”
If you wish to enjoy life and people then you choose ‘to be’.
If you choose to pursue wealth and power, then you choose ‘to have’.
Bozo hasn’t given up his personal relationship with Carrie to get to the top rather the reverse. Perhaps he never expected to last.
At that level all other people are instruments.
All relationships within the orbit of power are touched and changed and conditioned by it.
Film director Stanley Kubrick once told someone: “Never, ever, get close to power”
There are examples of decency in politics and business.
The late Mr Hays of Hays Travel seems to be sorely mourned by family, colleagues and customers alike.
Trying to think of any in politics, I will get back to you!! Tony Benn?
Ken Clarke
John Smith, Frank Field, Charlie Kennedy, Kate Hoey, Rory Stewart (?)
In politics – yes.
In power – no.
“There are examples of decency in politics and business.”
Sure, I agree.
It is a tendential law though, that the readier you are to instrumentalize other people, while managing to simulate emapthy, the likelier it is that you will reach a powerful position, which Benn never did.
This is simply because, that if you truly empathize with other people, then the necessary sacrices of this empathy, in order to attain power, would entail vast psychic costs.
Remember, you will be in competition with others, who having less empathy, will not incur these psychic costs because they don’t care.
I had many good holidays through Hays travel.Heartbreaking that they are being driven to the wall because of this green lunacy.
The trick with David Icke is that you take in what you want. You can listen without taking everything in. He has enough people who pay to see him for that.
That said, a lot of what he says (which is a summary of stuff you can find on the internet) is not looking so “out there” now. Which raises the question: why does it take so long for people to see this?
The narrative is solidifying around needing a vaccine. Why did we need one in the first place? Interesting that the narrative never solidified around the principles of individuality and choice.
The narrative has always been about a vaccine as the only saviour, it’s just been cranked up now they’re closing in on deployment.
I cannot say it enough.The vaccine is key to the control grid that they want to usher in.This will lead to the digital/health passport.Once we are all tracked and traced they can move to the next step which is digital currencies.
Yes, if they get that far we are done for.
The vaccine is the means to the end, ie the bigger agenda..
Note that David Ike was permitted to exist on YouTube until Covid appeared at which time he was abruptly cancelled.
Icke still has a wide global audience and is probably too influential to simple bump off now. Many other talented online commentators on these topics have been “disappeared in totality” in the last year or so.
He was permitted until he linked Covid and 5g which shows how important that technology is to them
Interesting, where did you read that about the US administration’s opinion of BJ?
Is that ‘last’ as in Obama’s?
I swear Matt Wankock makes my piss boil. I ended up stopping watching that interview because I was going to punch my TV.
The smarmy, slimey, fucking weasel that he is.
It’s only PD, nut nuts, handy cock and generic left in the bunker now
(oh and possibly a German Shepperd)
A couple just been picked up in Italy trying to board a ship to Argentina
Won’t be long now
[whimpering rises to a low but piercing whine]
Ugh. Mind bleach!
“Speaking with HuffPost UK’s Commons People podcast, as noted by Metro, Conservative Tom Tugendhat has warned that he could ‘certainly see the day’ when proof of vaccination was required to return to normal life.
‘If vaccination works and if we’re confident it’s safe, and all indications so far are good, then I can certainly see the day when businesses say: “Look, you’ve got to return to the office and if you’re not vaccinated you’re not coming in,”‘ he added.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/uk-citizens-could-be-banned-going-work-without-proof-covid-vaccination
Surely, if you go unvaccinated into an office, where everyone else is vaccinated, then you can do them no harm.
And these vaccines aren’t even being tested to see if they prevent transmission! https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4037
I think you can shorten that sentence :
“And these vaccines aren’t even being tested”
… well, not in any way known by accepted standards of validation.
If anyone can’t smell something rat-like, they may well actually have Covid.
A vaccine does not prevent transmission; it confers immunity from the disease on the vaccinated individual.
Stop being so f.ing logical – you’re breaking the rules of the game.
Actually, this is the first time I’ve ever heard of a vaccine for a seasonal virus being claimed as a protection for the population as a whole.
“Confident it’s safe”- pull the other one Tugentwat.
That’s what they said about the Titanic
Most people I know are going to call their bluff.
Nudge, nudge…
If a vaccine is effective, the vaccinated individual is immune from the disease regardless of whether anyone else is vaccinated or not. Vaccination is not a public health measure; it is a clinical treatment.
You anti-vaxxer, you …
It makes me more angry that the supposed real Tories are sitting around and allowing this take down of the UK. Is it all revenge for trying to remove them from the EU gravy train?
In much of Europe it is worse then here and their citizens didn’t try and remove them from the EU gravy train.
Agree, but they all seem to have their own agenda. NZ, got everyone captive and convinced they all need to be vaccinated, hardly any deaths. They think their captivity has saved their lives.
It seems to me they are all working towards the same agenda but methods are tweaked for each country. Here stroking the ego of the NHS worker and exploiting our religious devotion to the organisation was a key part of getting our compliance while keeping as many as possible quite.
I don’t understand how the French have been so thoroughly controlled. Their compliance and the totality of it I find more surprising then the British.
Presumably every government has a team of physiologists tasked with finding the optimum way to terrorise the population into compliance with their own destruction. I think that what we see as different agendas is more the result of careful manipulation of each population and what agendas they might accept with least anger.
The government have been very careful throughout to just turn the screw enough.I believe that there is a blueprint they all have to follow but it can be adjusted as and when according to the pushback received.Thats probably why Johnson was angry over the second lockdown leak as they hadn’t had enough time to gauge the public reaction.Cue the testing of the water over Christmas lockdown.
It’s global
The ‘Not so Great Reset’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swfyslAaz2o
Oh, and the BBC were talking about it back in 2011:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p00kt6yr
Started listening to the Piers Morgan Wanksock interview above. I bailed out when Morgan said we locked down 2 weeks late and consequently 25,000 extra people died.
Utter nonsense
i`m with Alex Belfield when it comes to PM.
I presume Piers Morgan is ignoring the deaths caused by lockdown?
I imagine if his own salary was threatened by lockdown he might have a different opinion. Likewise George Galloway.
That must be a new record for most nauseating LS headline picture.
Agreed!
Why do we need a vaccine? All I’ve got is’ to get back to normal’. For a virus that affects only 1% with underlying conditions, that is extreme. Even the world wide death number doesn’t appear to convince people that this is low mortality, the propaganda really is drowning out the truth.
Because of what else they are going to add to the vaccine, also because they want to force covipasses on us..
yeah, i see no reason for a vaccine.
I do for older people. And actually the way it’s gone. Older people remain often working people. So while it’s good that it’s not all ages, it is fairly common for people to be working at 70 + these days – indeed the pension age group will likely be 70 soon enough, so that’s a big part of society that needs to be kept working. And that’s the reality here. They don’t want to be pensioning off 60 + year olds. They can’t afford it. This is ultimately about keeping the older people working I feel.
That is so funny. Have you not noticed, Rishi Sunak found an endless magic money forest?
The type of normal where people have to present their papers to go anywhere or do anything and have to submit to whatever arbitrary demands the government dreams up to get those papers. The type of normal where the government still considers it has the authority to dictate every aspect of people existence and shut down peoples business as it sees fit. Normal only by the standard of nazi Germany or similar.
The reason people say this is that it is what they have been programmed to say.
Posted a request earlier today with no takers so sending again.
I really would like an up to date UK mortality from Covid percentage by age and comorbidity risk chart, but can only find Scotland and older UK versions.
I genuinely feel that this kind of raw data is either not known at all by people, or considered to be fake. Lockdown must be fought by constant use of statistical data to cut through the fear. Any help much appreciated!
Have you looked on Pandata.org? They have live data, you might find what you’re looking for there. Alternatively, you might find it on https://adapnation.io
Even if not, they’re both good resources.
Listening to TalkRadio is now a patchy affair. The news segment is provided by Sky I believe. So apparently disinfecting parcels and cards is the order of the day as the virus may last up to 24 hours on surfaces.
By that logic so have other types of viruses. Why are we becoming germaphobic? I don’t give a monkey’s myself but the Covidian Cult is getting obscene now.
I really enjoy the long haired Coast guy (sorry can`t remember his name) on talk radio, sensible man.
that is his name as far as I am aware
Neil Oliver
No need to actually listen live though. All the interesting stuff seems to be posted here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4TDABwZ19w
Like this one.. Green party sounding just like Princess Nut Nut.
Raheem Kassam of The National Pulse, and who is often on War Room, knows Ms Symonds and says she is dangerous…
On 2020-03-17, the NIH said:
“SARS-CoV-2 was detectable in aerosols for up to three hours, up to four hours on copper, up to 24 hours on cardboard and up to two to three days on plastic and stainless steel.”
This assessment is based on an article published in the New England Journal of Medicine:
N van Doremalen, et al. Aerosol and surface stability of HCoV-19 (SARS-CoV-2) compared to SARS-CoV-1. DOI: 10.1056/NEJMc2004973 (2020).
Surely hand-washing should take care of this?
So basically. Live in a bubble.
Does it say how “viable” the virus is as an infection risk or just they could trace it ? Suspect the latter.
This is in lab conditions, not comparable to the “real” world.
I would rather have the so called virus and develop natural immunity than damage my skin and healthy bacteria with harmful chemicals
We need an asteroid to end this crime
I haven’t noticed any parcel delivery guys keeling over.
If the Judges decide that what has been done since March is totally illegal there is a risk of serious public disorder breaking out
The judges may consider they are obliged to consider the wider public interest and may decide to give the dictatorship notice of their decision so appropriate resources can be put in place
It would explain the events of the past week
how would it be illegal? lord sumption was saying it didn’t have enough parliamentary scrutiny. wouldnt they just timetable it in and do it again?
Ok unlawful, but just a play on words really
Not just parliamentary scrutiny, but in breach of the basic principals and fundamentals of justice
Mass imprisonment without trial being an obvious one
I agree, but where in our constitution is it prevented – either now – or what can we do in the future?
It seems in the US their constitution has not helped them much. It seems perhaps it was never words on paper that protected peoples liberty but more governments fear of the people.
Yes – that’s an interesting point, given the way that the US has always boasted the protection of the constitution as protecting inalienable rights.
but what would stop them doing it ‘by the book’?
I was surprised the govt has the power to put the whole country under house arrest. when this is over we need to make sure they cant do it again
What would stop them doing it again?
A judgement that would outline what unalienable rights we have
Sumption said more than that.He believes that the 1984 public health act doesn’t give the Government the right to quarantine healthy people or force businesses to close.The government could have used the Civil Contingencies act which does,but that requires more Parliamentary scrutiny.
Spot on, if he is right every SI raised for Covid is unlawfull and every penalty null and void. Compensation claims could be astronomical but it would be us compensating each other.
They are certainly taking their time with SD’s judgement. Could just be more stalling however.
Funny how they seem able to move remarkably quickly sometimes.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49810261
Might they be waiting to see how judges in other countries decide in similar cases?
No, they will stand on their own
It would be great to have a judgment as substantial as the one in Portugal …. but ….
One of the missing parts of the ”’great”’ reset is the leverage that is being used to bear on the participants. How can one evil bald bastard work the world’s politicians like a collection on marionettes? Certainly it can be agrued Hancock is an ego on legs pyschopathic and therefore easily corrupted, but the network is much deeper than that.
I speculate that schwab is the presented leader with his unelected power and leverage in the background concealed from our view. A look at schwabs wikipedia page displays myriad honorary doctorates – the page displays barely anything of his actual tangible achievements (if any). He founded in 1971 the EU group on economic study which later crept, as all things EU do, into the World Economic Forum.
One of the anciliary groups schwab is credited with founding is ‘Global Shapers’ – 430 odd ‘hubs’ around the world of people in their 20s who are deemed (by schwab?) to be exceptional people. Bristol has a group, maybe your city does too. Edinburgh’s group https://www.globalshapers.org/hubs/edinburgh-hub produces a picture of at least one young person who has a face you would never tired of punching – smug beyond belief. It is noticeable only two of the names in the Edinburgh Hub are Scottish, a low number for a selection of exceptional people. I do not know the provenace of the other names.
The Impact Officer for the Edinburgh Hub will be assessing how successful the group has been at changing public behaviour around defibrilators – this is the hub’s single displayed project. The lack of transparency of Davos persists at local city junior club level as well.
Looking at the twitter accounts of the Edinburgh exceptional people you can pick up a flavour of what these people think. One is clearly conservative minded, another is an investment mamager interested in ‘plant based eating’. The Hub account itself seems particularly unimpressive with very little discussion of anykind. What these hub groups truly do is not published – why?
Just commenting here to show that the tendrils of the literal Bloefeld -Schwab with unexplained control over global leaders also has active ambitions around the world at a regional and city level. He is not only pictured besides Charles and Hancock, not only is Schwab knighted by Elizabeth 2 ‘hrh’ but also he is reaching into quite possibly the young people of your city.
Schwab is just some kind of agent.
The face of the WEF.
Schwab actually looks like some evil nazi Bond villain.
The ‘Global Shapers’ initiative reminds me a little of Hugo Drax’s campaign to select bright young things for his space eugenics programme in Moonraker.
China’s Cultural Revolution picked essentially ‘shapers’ too.
Those, who were already completely indoctrinated within the current system.
Wrong. These people are nearly not beautiful enough. Now the Drax program in space with 70s models. Where do I sign:-)
Good research, thanks. Apparently, this is what ‘Global Shapers’ have to be like:
I imagine there’s a whole world contained in the requirement to be ‘willing to support fellow Shapers in their personal and professional development’ …
Influencers. Change agents. Inspiration seekers. Disruptors
“Children must be excluded from ‘rule of six’ over Christmas, MPs say”
This is good news. I mean, we’re all someone’s children, and the government treats everyone like children (in a “I’m an abusive parent” sort of way) so xmas can go ahead as normal.
Quality!
That’s good news then. I’ll let the 23 guests who were already coming know…
Arnie.
Ah good. The book I ordered to be sent to my MP has finally been dispatched. I’m not sure why it took so long (maybe people have been burning copies of it and it took a month to print some more)
Should arrive tomorrow
Happy reading, Nadine!
(P.S. It’s got pictures in it Nadine, so don’t worry about having to read…)
Great stuff Captain. Massive message to them. Keep battering on.
Arnie.
last known photo of 2020 UK MPs who voted yes
You wish!
The funny thing about the Nuremberg trials is that it was a chemical/pharma company that was found partly responsible for the horrors: IG Farben. It was dismantled into smaller companies following the trials. Some of those pieces now far larger than IG Farben ever was e.g. Sanofi-Aventis.
The company IG Farben was then ‘reincarnated’ as Moderna….the lot producing one of the Covid vaccines..
IG Farben built the biggest synthetic rubber factory in the world outside Auswhich (sp) but it didn’t produce any synthetic rubber.
I hope this book tells it’s story in pictures, Nadine can’t read.
Maybe she’s heard it all before.
Maybe she’s developed heard immunity to historic facts. An amazing new feat for the human immune system!
When I were a little lad and a strong Labour supporter I had to concede, if only to myself, the Labour Party just didn’t have the aura of probity and respectability which the Tories carried.
Now when I look at the photo above of a Tory prime minster sat with his female companion, presumably in No. 10, I own to being a bit flabbergasted. For it can’t be gain said but they’re livin’ or’t brush at one of the most esteemed addresses in then country.
Call me old fashioned if you like – and you’d be right.
You are impressively old fashioned, even by my standards. Good stuff.
Though in fairness they are at least affianced, iirc.
I put this up yesterday but I think I bears repeating. If you are struggling or can’t understand what is happening this will answer you questions. It’s also very positive!
31 minutes of pure unadulterated clarity and optimism:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=RPd5l2ekdu4
If you’re having a crap day or feeling browse beaten by all the small minded nonsense please have a look.
10/10
Arnie.
Thanks for the reminder – I fell asleep before I watched it, bookmarked for later…
Thank you for the link. The elite are insane and their plan will not work because there are not enough resources left to herd humanity into smart cities. I doubt there ever was but two hundred years of industrial society has depleted our available resources. As of this moment it would be well nigh impossible to elctrify the UK’s car fleet. This is an article from nearly a year ago (pre-Covid) in which the issue of resources on a finite planet are dealt with. Read to the bottom of the article – it is towards the last third of the article that the actual numbers are presented. The elite are not so smart as they like to think. https://consciousnessofsheep.co.uk/2020/02/05/the-make-believe-future/
They simply do not, or cannot, understand people and what makes them tick. This is their great disadvantage and our great advantage.
And we got it wrong deliberately.
just watched the C4 Dispatches programme from last night
good expose of the mess in testing labs, the dubious links between MPs, test and trace, outsource companies and the unaccountability thereof.
However no comment on the fundamental issues of suitability of and reliability on dodgy tests and the misuse and manipulation of data etc etc etc etc
and it finished with an interview with Neil Ferguson which basically tells you all you need to know about how thorough this programme was!!
and next weeks programme is “is covid racist?”
haha… Yes, it certainly tailed off towards the end without ever landing a sucker punch.
Why on earth was discredited Prof Pants interviewed – he sold the vaccine
Sums up the standard really. Nothing below the surface.
Some rare coverage of the Denmark protests in this video. No doubt the Danish technocrats will be scheming about a new way to enslave the people so hopefully people will keep the pressure on them. Funny how even the pro-EU newspapers and BBC completely ignored this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zadErfQ2pMY
Quite rightly so, those Danes are far right, fascist, nazi, islamophobic, transphobic, vax phobic, ronaphobic racists.
dont forget mink killers
Interesting stuff. Will be interesting to see how this changes in the UK as the propaganda campaign focuses fully on vaccination:
I had to lol at China – what else are they going to say?!
No joy in their lives so don’t want anyone else to have any joy in theirs.
Thought being “Cancelled” from social media is bad enough?
https://joannenova.com.au/2020/11/can-your-bank-delete-you-its-almost-like-the-start-of-an-american-social-credit-system/#comments
The bank that provides my mortgage may delete me. I won’t mind
This is indeed a worrying trend around the world, they are targeting individuals now as well as groups and organisations. We don’t live in a free society, we are living in a state / big business created control matrix. The technocrats want complete control over us.
Movie ‘Enemy of the State’, Will Smith. Foretold all except the tech is now more advanced.
They always soften us up for the future they have planned. How about ‘Gattaca’ as a future for people who don’t go along with the transhumanist / annual vaccinations agenda they are currently introducing.
This has happened to some anti corona legislation organisations and individuals, like people who have YT channels, in Germany.
I can understand it with organisations, who will publish their bank details to collect contributions, but an individual? The banks are afraid they will loose lucrative customers by associating with well know anti c groups, but what harm is an individual person? Who even cares or knows where they bank?
It is dangerous and all within the plan.
I noticed Prof Heneghan on Talk Radio being interviewed by JHB; when Julia said that he was a signatory of the Great Barrington Declaration, he made a point of correcting her and said he hadn’t sign it.
He didn’t go in to any more detail and she didn’t ask him to clarify. Anyone know anything around this? Perhaps he’s wanting to stay ‘apolitical’ ?
I suspect it’s exactly that, he’s very deliberately remaining impartial and ensuring he can’t be slandered as associating with a “lunatic fringe”.
We discussed that at home last night. They are ‘connected’ to each other – see link below – and likely know each other both professionally and socially (all the Oxford medics and academics do, as their kids are in the same schools). It makes sense to keep the Great Barrington link separate so if there is an attack on one, the other isn’t automatically brought down. It is pretty nasty in academic life, and will only get worse from here.
https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-open-letter-on-covid-19-strategy-written-by-prof-karol-sikora-prof-carl-heneghan-prof-sunetra-gupta-and-others/
I know this is a time when people generally need to choose a side, but if your thing is evidence based medicine and that thing is doing a very good job on its own of undermining the narrative, why do more? It’s refreshing that someone in such a role stays out of “politics” given that most of those in similar roles on the “other side” do nothing but politics.
Yeah. Smart move. However, he won’t be able to continue such a stance as he sees Oxford and other universities continue to becoming branches of the biosecurity state
If your thing is evidence based medicine one ought to be looking at the evidence for a pandemic.
Like the Dosten paper – Eurosurveillance – Volume 25, Issue 3, 23 January 2020
In the present case of 2019-nCoV, virus isolates or samples from infected patients have so far not become available to the international public health community. We report here on the establishment and validation of a diagnostic workflow for 2019-nCoV screening and specific confirmation, designed in absence of available virus isolates or original patient specimens. Design and validation were enabled by the close genetic relatedness to the 2003 SARS-CoV, and aided by the use of synthetic nucleic acid technology.
Detection of 2019 novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) by real-time RT-PCR
Conflicts of interest
Olfert Landt is CEO of Tib-Molbiol; Marco Kaiser is senior researcher at GenExpress and serves as scientific advisor for Tib-Molbiol.
Tib-Molbiol PCR test manufacturer
Affiliations:
1 Charité – Universitätsmedizin Berlin Institute of Virology, Berlin, Germany and German Centre for Infection Research (DZIF), Berlin, Germany
2 Tib-Molbiol, Berlin, Germany
3 GenExpress GmbH, Berlin, Germany*
4 Department of Viroscience, Erasmus MC, Rotterdam, the Netherlands
5 National Institute for Public Health and the Environment (RIVM), Bilthoven, the Netherlands
6 University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong, China
7 Universite d Aix-Marseille, Marseille, France
8 Public Health England, London, United Kingdom
9 Department of Medical Microbiology, Vaccine and Infectious Diseases Institute, University of Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium
https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.25.3.2000045
It’s a perfectly good tool used in the correct circumstances by the properly trained. As we know, this isn’t what has happened.
You have benches?
Luxury!
Our local council has been taking away a lot of the benches in my area over the past few months.
What, they can’t have bands on bandstands? When they redeveloped our town centre they demolished the bandstand and it is now the outside eating area for Bill’s restaurant. Maybe a precedent KH?
No playing, laughing, smiling or enjoying yourselves.
By Order
Joyless bastards have always been with us – we are just noticing them more now.
(In some cases, perhaps their joylessness is a product of the times, in which case they are to be pitied.)
Do your best to ignore the petty joylessness and remember the ways in which you and your business are bringing a little light into people’s lives.
This from Cathy Owen the doyen of welsh government propaganda
‘Untrained army of volunteers to administer the vaccine’
‘Covid can be eradicated in 30 seconds with mouthwash’
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/coronavirus-vaccine-wales-health-lockdown-19292110?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar
‘Don’t need a weatherman to tell you which way the wind blows’
Bob Dylan
Doubt this was shared before… A helmet to protect us against covid. The fear of death has reached utter lunacy.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54916159
He’s been riding the subway for two months in that thing. Really hope he gets the flu.
What a cock.
And hear this:
Dr Suzanne Pham, medical director of the Covid-19 response team at Weiss Memorial Hospital in Chicago, says: “It remains to be seen if these fascinating helmets effectively battle Covid, as currently there is not enough research behind them.
Dr Pham is also concerned that the helmets could lead to a societal division. “It will create a split in society between those who can afford something that seemingly might protect them more, and those who cannot.
“And with those who cannot being left feeling like, ‘Oh, am I being under-protected by wearing just a surgical mask?'”
This is life (well, living death) on an utterly different planet.
Scotland is bottom of the league on Covid
There are four European countries with populations of five million.
Denmark 5,799,640 757 Covid deaths
Finland 5,545,596 369 Covid deaths
Slovakia 5,462,617 510 Covid deaths
Norway 5,436,637 294 Covid deaths.
Scotland 5,500000? 3280 Covid
https://www.effiedeans.com/2020/11/scotland-is-bottom-of-league-on-covid.html
Nice to see Lily of St Lenoards getting back to what she is good at – political commentary. Previous posting by Lily has been a little bit wonky suggesting she’s all too eager to get her body full of the improperly tested, unlicensed vaccines. Back on track today with the assessment of Krankfacemcgraws horrendous actions throughout 2020.
Of course, the trouble is ‘Covid’ deaths. The over-counting by using PCR results bites back.
16 words that describe the current situation exactly. Thank-you.
The government had to set a baseline figure for “covid deaths” at the outset. They achieved this by shipping covid+ patients from hospitals into care homes. Around 88% of Scotland’s deaths occurred there.
With this baseline figure they were able to push for lockdowns, restrictions, etc. Repeat.
And now we know that anyone who has tested positive who dies, from whatever cause or reason, within 28 of a positive death, gets added to that baseline figure. It’s pure evil genius.
Professor Anthony Brookes, geneticist talking lots of sense on interview with J H Brewer this morning on talk radio .The clip is on youtube on the talk radio site called The same as it would be any other year .
He was on a few weeks ago, after one of the lockdown SAGE/Alternative SAGE nutters. He was excellent then too.
The number of people dying is “the same as it would be any other year”, despite coronavirus, according to Health data scientist Professor Anthony Brookes.
Julia Hartley-Brewer interviews Professor Anthony Brookes on talkRADIO (2020-11-17, 11m33s).
This is very good. Hadn’t heard of this Professor before. Keeping the vaccine results in proportion – “they may provide a degree of immunity“
nvm
There’s a firm called ”Dominion” that’s apparently very helpful in collating figures. Very flexible, I understand.
VACCINE DEATH WAVE: UK government posts bid for AI system to process the expected flood of COVID-19 vaccine injuries and side effects described as a “direct threat to patient life”
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-11-16-uk-government-posts-bid-for-ai-system-flood-of-covid-19-vaccine-injuries.html
I just realised LS have it in their page so deleted my comment. Scary stuff though.
There is no way I am going near the untested and unlicenced gene therapy vaccine.
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This should never be used as an argument. Just imagine it. Boris and his all his cronies in a big PR stunt, getting injected with water, then saying “look, we had it and we’re fine, now you can too!”
There are plenty of people who could easily take their place. They don’t have a monopoly on deviousness.
”…..the number of positive cases in London was being inflated by this glitch..”
Would that be the same ”glitch” that got Biden so many extra votes in Georgia, etc? The one that puts numbers into columns where they can have a useful effect?
(But, Toby, they’re not ”cases”. Aren’t we trying to avoid that word, unless these are people in hospital?)
Sack your trusted advisors
Don’t replace them with anyone new
Fail to turn up for work Monday morning
It’s over
He knows, you know (with apologies to Hilda Baker)
He obviously celebrated over the weekend because he looked distinctly hungover. Only needs 15% of Tory MPs to bring him down – the group of 50, now 70, in the CRG could do it.
It’s not just me then. I’ve been thinking for a while that his post covid symptoms, looked awfully like he’s been overdoing the ale.
Bring it on.
Band banned from the bandstand
I think that one of the main reasons why we are where we are is simply down to overanalysis of the problem.
It’s a bit like VAR in football where offside is expected to be given down to the width of a hair but even then it’s down to how somebody sees and interprets where that hair sits relative to a line.
Often when there is a problem, if you sort out the major contributors the minor ones become irrelevant. But in our case the minor contributors are given more significance every time another contributor is eliminated. A bit like OCD really.
Well they keep changing the bloody rules on offside with who is active or passive and all that jazz. Same with tackles and cards. When you watch the Africa Cup of Nations you see players plough into each other and the ref just rolls his hands to say “Get up”
Jeremy Vine R2 approx. 13.15
‘Are disguarded face masks the new fag butts ! ?
Would you tell someone to pick theirs up ! ?’
I wish he’d ask:
“Are whiney little tosspots who seem to make a living out of dividing opinion, creating anger and driving ‘the agenda’ forward passed their sell-by date?”
His Channel 5 show had a leading question for the phone in if ever there was one
“Should we ban Christmas now rather than later?”
I am very grateful for the wit and good humour on LS from its many articulate, intelligent, decent contributors. Thank you. It makes it easier to bear this nightmare of a shit show that is Planet Earth 2020 and the PD/Nut Nut-led country.
Are you king of the Welsh dinosaurs?
As a llamasaur, I’m out of my epoch, and come from the Andes.
Nothing to do with llamacorns. They are magic.
Apologies confused you with Llansamlet Rex
That happens all the time. A cross I have to bear.
May I venture that you’re Mr. DeMille? I’m ready for my close up, your eminence.
Mirror, mirror on the wall which test is the correctest of them all? These figures from Liverpool show that on the same population, PCR is giving 2.98% positives (which is within the boundaries of the known false positive rate, especially in the commercial labs doing the community tests) and the LFT (lateral flow test, the new test recently introduced which the Army are administering) gives 0.61% positive results. PHE (Public Health England) say the LFT is 99.7% accurate by which I think they mean it has only a false +ve rate of 0.3%. Time to bin the PCR test (which costs a whopping £130 a time and even it’s inventor, Kary Mullis, said was not fit for purpose as a diagnostic test)!
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Mirror, mirror on the wall which test is the correctest of them all? These figures from Liverpool show that on the same population, PCR is giving 2.98% positives (which is within the boundaries of the known false positive rate, especially in the commercial labs doing the community tests) and the LFT (lateral flow test, the new test recently introduced which the Army are administering) gives 0.61% positive results. PHE (Public Health England) say the LFT is 99.7% accurate by which I think they mean it has only a false +ve rate of 0.3%. Time to bin the PCR test (which costs a whopping £130 a time and even it’s inventor, Kary Mullis, said was not fit for purpose as a diagnostic test)!
The purpose of the test is to find cases the more cases the better so they are building two huge labs to do the inaccurate PCR tests badly to find more cases.
The LFT doesn’t find as many cases and will be scrapped.
It’s way over due.
My worry is that they’ve already ruined so many people’s lives by ignoring the PCR flaws and burying essential information like the CTs used for each test. The whole crisis has been inflated by this at every turn. Deaths, NHS staff told to isolate, deep cleans for businesses and schools.
It has to be considered criminal negligence to have ignored concerns and historical pseudo epidemics driven by PCR
It can’t be a case of moving to lateral flow and nothing to see here.
I mentioned on here that my local theatre is staging an outdoor production in December and that face covering must be worn by the audience.
I complained. I did not receive an answer, but I saw today they have updated their website and are not stating exemptions apply.
I am sure I am not the only one who complained or someone sensible in their management team noticed their error, but I still feel that i have done my bit influence a change.
Small steps.
I wonder if you might get a good response by asking those questions publicly, in YT, IG or FB comment sections?
‘now stating’ maybe ?
Forgot to proof read, of course NOW.
Someone needs to conduct a survey about these so-called “anti-vaxxers”.
How many are really anti-vax, vs anti-covid vax? I would wager not that many, and they are currently allowed to be anti-vax and refuse the standard, tried-and-tested vaccines for diseases that are considerably more devastating than covid.
I have had all the standard vax, so has my 6-year-old daughter. Yet I don’t trust a new vaccine technology rushed through in considerably less than a year. No one can deny that this is considerably faster than the usual vaccine development timeline. Can you really call someone an anti-vaxxer if they are fully vaccinated for everything except covid??
Great points raised. Your last two sentences nail the case for the prosecution (or is it defence?).
Indeed. They will try and lump everyone under the bus. Pick out one true anti vaxxer to smear a whole collection of contentious objectors
Britain had a research unit from 1946 to 1989 with the sole purpose of finding a cure for the common cold. One of the viruses that cause the common cold (a number of different illnesses despite its name) is the coronavirus. So over forty years of intensive, dedicated research focused on finding a way of creating immunity and not a sausage. Yet, we are supposed to believe that today’s scientists (aka corporations) are so smart they can find a vaccine(s) for a novel form of coronavirus in a matter of months and ascertain that it is both safe and effective. They really do think we are gullible and will believe anything, just because they say so.
‘Anti-vaxxer’ is a very effective smear technique used against anyone that asks questions about vaccines.
It is our right to ask questions, then to evaluate the information and make an informed decision whether to take it or not.
Vaccine Transparency Manifesto
“Many consider a vaccine the surest option, but that is conditional on vaccines being found both effective and safe.
The 10-point VACCINE TRANSPARENCY Manifesto
https://www.anhinternational.org/resources/documents/uk-vaccine-transparency-manifesto/
The uncertain promise of a Covid vaccine: The video
In the 25-minute documentary we showcase below, produced in-house by our newly established media unit, we expose the 15 questions we think everyone should know before they roll up their sleeves, or those of their loved ones.
The solution, we believe, is simple, yet one that needs to be fought for. It’s genuine vaccine transparency, not just lip service to the concept. Over the last 20 years of vaccine development, transparency policies established by vaccine makers and regulators have been unfit for their purpose. If we care about our future, we can’t let lack of transparency impede our fundamental right to informed consent.
https://www.anhinternational.org/news/the-uncertain-promise-of-a-covid-vaccine-the-video/
thank you for this
I would bet a fair number of those ‘anti-vaxxers’ would actually say they are not anti-vax just that they want ‘safe vaccines’ with good transparency of risks and clear options to address vaccine injury. Many anti-vaxxers have actually been through the vaccine system and have become enlightened through mishap or misfortune.
Informed consent is something we should all have with regards to any medicine yet vaccines seem ‘immune’ from all levels of scrutiny beyond that given by their own creators. Seems a bit like buying house and asking the owners to undertake a survey on its condition. You’re highly unlikely to get a true picture of the issues therein.
This latest rush job is the crack in the damn. Once this gets the nod and the sheeple get the jab then its a rolling program of who knows what stretching into our futures…money money money.
That describes me to a t. I became ‘enlightened’ after my eldest child was vaccine injured. I would describe myself as ‘pro vaccine transparency’. Not something the pharmaceutical companies have ever been for.
One of the best comments, which I shall recall, if or when the vaccine is touted in my area: safe vaccines.
Very well said.
no.
Same. I took a meningitis jab a few years back because that can actually be a problem and so justified relative to the risk of side effects, especially as it’s properly tested. You can’t say any of those things about the covid “vaccine” but MSM will soon be “anti-vax” straw-manning like crazy.
Here’s one for your MP. Tweet, email, letter.
Masks don’t work,
Lockdowns don’t work,
And when I get to the ballot box,
You’ll no longer work!
They work brilliantly it’s the results are not related to the votes cast
Biden has a solution to the democracy problem.
Yes, I saw some of his rallies. I thought I’d accidentally tuned into a really lame episode of the walking dead…..
Sadly, the alternatives all stink too or will have no chance, sofar.
And the current MPs will all have secured jobs at Big Pharma or the WEF in return for their collaboration.
Cue the imminent mandatory use of mouthwash in all enclosed public spaces:
Covid: Mouthwash ‘can kill virus in lab in 30 seconds’
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-54971650
Personally I would prefer Whiskey which could be swallowed after rinsing…..
I hope MPs drink a lot of it, might solve another problem too…
Of all the ridiculous “measures” introduced, this would be one of the least expensive and disruptive I suppose, although that’s not saying much.
However alcohol mouthwashes aren’t that great for your mouth, they kill off all the native flora and leave it open to colonisation by nastier decay-causing bacteria. Given that dentists are no more, perhaps not such a clever idea.
I stopped buying mouthwash some time ago. I make my own using bicarb of soda and sea salt, with a few drops of peppermint. It’s more effective and costs next to nothing to make.
Fantastic. Mouthwash for us all and back to normal
So like bleach then…
How about fresh parsley?
It will be no dogs anywhere if HMG decides it’s another angle to get at us.
“Globalist Klaus Schwab made it clear that transhumanism is an integral part of “The Great Reset” when he said that the fourth industrial revolution would “lead to a fusion of our physical, digital and biological identity,” which in his book he clarifies is implantable microchips that can read your thoughts.”
…
“In the book, Schwab explains with excitement how upcoming technology will allow authorities to “intrude into the hitherto private space of our minds, reading our thoughts and influencing our behavior.”
He goes on to predict that this will provide an incentive for law enforcement to implement Minority Report-style pre-crime programs.
”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/klaus-schwab-great-reset-will-lead-fusion-our-physical-digital-biological-identity
Why do all the religious bodies particularly Christian ones in the UK fully support the Great Reset, back the police state and see Bill Gates as the saviour (despite family links with the eugenics movement).
I always thought transhumanism would be against every religions beliefs – turns out I was wrong. Are local priests so stupid that they can only watch and recite the BBC and Guardian propaganda? Hopefully there is a hell.
They’ve been told at the top that if they don’t want to part of the cull they’ll need to get on board. Use their influence to contain tbe masses until such time as they can be dispensed with.
True Christians (independent churches) don’t support transhumanism. Mainstream churches are not Christian anymore, despite their claims.
True Christians believe there is a hell.
I doubt Pier Corbyn received a response from the Archbishop of Canterbury last week – the Church of England really needs saving from its globalist leadership.
PiersCorbyn challenges the Archbishop Of Canterbury to debate the Church’s role in the NewWorldhttps://brandnewtube.com/watch/pierscorbyn-challenges-the-archbishop-of-canterbury-to-debate-the-church-039-s-role-in-the-newworld_RMOuNtju6PSUHmb.html
It seems to me, and I speak as a Christian, that the mainstream church is essentially apostate. The mission has been reduced to the making of converts who are told their religion is private and if its true for them, that’s just great. Tragically this abandonment of our mission has led to the epidemic of wokeness and has allowed evil to become increasingly dominant, for we have failed to be salt. We need something along the lines of the Evangelical Revival under Wesley and Whitfield which bypassed the established church.
If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land. (2Chr 7:14).
That’s because Christianity isn’t clean either. Remember that the Holocaust was partly influenced by Christian anti-Semitism and I won’t be surprised if many clerics were also supportive of the eugenics movement.
And churches here, at least the CoE at the bare minimum are simply mouthpieces of the state. I don’t think any of them see the irony of why they were created in the first place and their constant ostriching has meant that they’ve never been able to put their own house in order and live according to the Gospel.
On Sky news page, children under 10 investigated for right-wing views. Get them early.
And this what Chief Constable Andy Marsh said:
“In the face of violence and intimidation they conducted themselves with restraint, courage and professionalism.
“These protesters are nothing short of disgrace, from the criminally misguided to the plain stupid.
“Whilst the majority of our communities do their best to support each other through the Covid-19 pandemic, and our NHS and other essential workers make sacrifices to keep our society going and save lives, these selfish idiots are an embarrassment to Bristol.”
Is this really the way to build public confidence in the police? Check out the responses under the twitter thread to see how the public view this tirade:
https://twitter.com/ASPolice/status/1328347860690210817
Excellent responses from the public. Will their Social Media manager dare tell the Chief Constable?
and so many of them. hardly a single tweet of support . what a PR disaster
There is absolutely no hope with people like this in charge of the police. If this was for an establishment / media approved cause he would be silent or approving like with the statue incident earlier in the year.
Is this the same bloke who supported the BLM tearing down the statue of Edward Colston during the summer?
The people on their fb thread are vile too
That’s what 94%/90% efficiency really means:
You need to vaccinate 177/256 people to prevent 1 infection.
And as such roughly 100.000 (skewed towards the risk groups) to prevent 1 death.
HIER ein ernüchternder wissenschaftlicher Kommentar im British Medical Journal (BMJ) zur euphorischen Ankündigung der Impfstoffhersteller, den ich in deutscher Fassung HIER gern wiedergebe. Zur Vorbeugung von nur einem Covid-19-Fall müssen beim BioNTech/Pfizer Impfstoff 256 Personen geimpft werden. Bei MODERNA wären es 177. Die
risikoreichen gentechnischen “Impfungen” helfen also nur bei 0,35% bzw. 0,56% der Geimpften. Das ist ein extrem schlechtes Nutzen-Risiko-Verhältnis.
Denn die anderen 255 bzw. 176 Personen haben keinen Nutzen, sind aber den unerwünschten Wirkungen der Impfstoffe ausgesetzt, wie immer diese auch sein mögen und wann immer wir von ihnen erfahren. Ein Pfizer Top Manager hat wohl geahnt, dass andere besser rechnen können als die Bundesregierung und soll noch am selben Tag seine eigenen Aktien in Millionenhöhe verkauft haben.
Für den heute von Moderna mit großer Presse vorgestellten Test gilt eine ähnlich geringe Schutzwirkung gegen Covid-19, eine Infektion, die nichts weiter ist als ein Teil der jährlichen Grippe.
Vax
Pfizer/BioNTech
MODERNA
Necessary Number to Treat
256
177
Actual Risk Reduction
0,35% 0,56%
That’s a lot of bang for a vaccine that sucks.
During the early days of covid I mainly supported the actions of our government, albeit with a level of skepticism,
Conspiracy theories were the furthest thing from my mind .
6 months on I now find myself failing to see how this can be anything other than an organized agenda on a world wide scale
A new green deal , great reset , building back better ,all being ushered out by respective western powers
This is and never has been about a virus with a 98% survival rate
This I fear is permanent, our way life
Our liberties with never be the same again , unless more people can wake up enough tear themselves away from their strictly cum jungle instabook lives
Boris always has the Build Back Better logo behind him when he gives he incoherent rambling speeches to us
I wonder if he has the logo tattooed somewhere on his pudgy body?
I supported the government until they announced the lockdown on Friday 20th March
Since then I’ve wanted them all executed
When it first began someone sent me a video of an interview with German virologist Prof Sucharit Bhakdi, with English subtitles. He was an expert in his field willing to stake his professional reputation to tell the truth. Lockdowns, restrictions were not necessary he said
That was all I needed to see
Then the news about politicians and their Pharma shares came out. The conflicts of interest and the skulduggery. Then the stuff about the WEF..
The last nine months has been a nightmare, in part for witnessing so many people being duped
If only everyone had watched that Sucharit Bhakdi video
100% agree. I watched Dr Bhakti on Triggonometry You Tube. His English was very good. Everyone should watch it.
I’ve tried to pm you and it hasnt worked – can you try pm’ing me on the forum please?
“Mounting evidence shows that pandemic-related lockdowns and restrictions have inflicted much more harm on younger people than the coronavirus itself. A new report reveals that nearly half of 18 to 24 year-olds are “showing at least moderate depressive symptoms,” and for many the depression is severe.”
https://fee.org/articles/harvard-researchers-nearly-half-of-young-adults-showing-signs-of-depression-amid-pandemic/
Are we surprised ?
So much harm. Talking to a neighbour this morning who said her 20 yr old granddaughter has made several attempts to take her own life recently. So sad.
Lockdowns and restrictions are crimes against humanity. Those who push for them are complicit.
I’m hoping for an asteroid. Protests seem to be doing nothing
A football size asteroid crashing into #10 would be nice.
Scandalous. Rise up. End this now.
Anyone who still supports lockdown should be sent this article and told among others of incidents such as Arnie’s friend and Watashi’s neighbour’s granddaughter.
It’s criminal what’s happening.
Operation Warp Speed: Planning the distribution of a future COVID-19 vaccine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=240DMmhgp4M&ab_channel=60Minutes
The SUN editorial is rubbish.
They have drunk the vaccine and testing Kool-Aids.
I always though that it was the sort of paper where you start at the back and keep going until the end of the sport section
https://twitter.com/TiceRichard/status/1328666061848375317
It’ll be interesting to see how much suppression vs qualification vs “interpretation” will ensue.
Is that a 0.3% false positive rate 65972*0.3% = 197 of 402 fp???
This will not prove to be a ‘gotcha’ moment. Unless the people tested were the same people tested at the same time the Government will say that the PCR test was testing people who thought they had symptoms whereas the Lateral Flow tests were testing the general population. It contrasts sharply with the ONS data of 2.2% infections in the population at large but it probably isn’t a direct comparator for the 2 types of test in Liverpool, this maybe an instance of comparing apples & oranges.
A comparison of apples and oranges because the ONS data is based on a representative sample of the population and the mass testing of the people of Liverpool is obviously an unrepresentative sample. I look forward to hearing ministers telling the people of Liverpool that they are abnormal.
I agree that the two sets of results cannot be compared, however, the PCR ‘cases’ have always been represented in a way that they represented a cross section of the population. i.e. ‘cases’ per 100k, not cases per number of people with symptoms. I assume the new test could drop the per 100k significantly.
That’s right. And it’ll be the same as Hancock responded to JHB on Talk Radio about the vaccine. Tied in knots but nobody cares, move on.
Am I missing something?
‘All participants receive two tests, the standard PCR test and the rapid turnaround (within 1 hour) lateral flow Innova test.’
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4436
According to the BBC, there were 90 000 lateral flow tests conducted in Liverpool during the first week of mass testing. Of these, 336 were positive. Given a false positive rate of 0.3, 270 of these would have been false positives. This means Liverpool (which is where we are told the virus is out of control) 66 people out of 90 000 have the virus. And, of course, we are not told how many of the 66 are ill. This is going to require some serious spin to sell it as evidence of an out of control spread of the virus.
If the tests throw up false positives, do they also throw up false negatives ?
Yes, I’d have thought so.
I have this amusing thought (well amusing to me, hmm, note to me: stop smirking at your own amusing things)
Friday, the Handy Cock is still doing the rounds of radio stations etc when he hears that PD, PNN and all the others are on a flight out of the country
They just forgot to tell him
Smirk all you want, this made me laugh heartily.
World Economic Forum blocked Laurence Fox from Reclaim Party
https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1328654486529843200
This is so bad on so many levels.
Anyone blocked by the WEF&co will NOT have to go to prison, but sentence them and the unblocked….
Gives the Reclaim Party more legitimacy and credibility
Agreed
censorship is the best publicity you can get
Block W.E.F., by any means available. Hack them, subvert them. Who out there is capable of stealthily accomplishing this task? I would if I knew how. Or, send them endless emails, tweets, etc. Overload their servers. Do something to trip them up.
Just been watching some of Trudeau and Chuck Reset on my lunch break. Shame. I shouldn’t have done it. It’s like a moth to a flame. I threw up after their ultra-elitist bile.
To me Trudeau always came across as an actor playing a leader character. Not even pretending otherwise now.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/medical-doctor-warns-bacterial-pneumonias-rise-mask-wearing/5725848
This is exactly what 4 German Professors have found and stated individually already, namely Profs Veith, Ewig, Kappstein and the one at the Army’s Aerodymamics institute:
In practice, everyday masking harms the wearer and might even increase the spread of the virus, even if the theoretical/lab science w/could indeed back it up, which it
doesn’t/can’t of course.
This is what infuriates me more than anything. We are having this rammed down our throats all for political reasons.
The postmortem samples we examined from people who died of influenza during 1918–1919 uniformly exhibited severe changes indicative of bacterial pneumonia.
David M. Morens, Jeffery K. Taubenberger, and Anthony S. Fauci
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2599911/
At the close of WWI, an estimated 50 million people died from the Spanish flu. Masks were the uninfected’s main line of defense.
https://www.vintag.es/2018/03/spanish-flu-masks.html
The lesson from history – one that so many people shy away from even though it has been repeated so often – is it does not take bad people to do bad things; good people are perfectly capable of doing very bad things and indeed are much more efficient and effective. Take the care home massacre. Virtually all the people involved in those tens of thousands of premature deaths are good, caring people, concerned to do their jobs as well as they are able. Yet, they placed old, vulnerable people in virtual solitary confinement, denied them access to the comfort (and oversight) of their relatives, denied them any social interaction to speak of, denied them access to the outdoors, denied them access to medical attention, put DNR notices on their notes, and many of them, entirely predictably, out of isolation and anxiety and confusion and depression simply gave up and died. This massacre of the most vulnerable is just one example of the horrors good people have inflicted since March in the name of combating the deadly virus. Good people happen to be precisely the people one needs to carry out the most barbarous of policies.
or maybe they are bad people?
Tell me, all those doctors who have denied health to people since March, are they all bad people? Did they suddenly become bad in March?
I’m not religious and I don’t really believe in good or evil. I do believe people do good things and not so good things. I would have liked to hear more doctors speak out about the horrors of withdrawing treatment on such a scale
There is good and evil within each of us.
Sometimes we do good.
Sometimes we do evil.
If am a doctor (who has sworn the Hippocratic Oath), then if I de ny medical care to someone who needs it, under reasonable conditions, then yes, it is morally reprehensible.
You do know that doctors do not take the Hippocratic oath?
yes, you are judged by your actions and their actions are evil.
Just found out that a friend of mine was operated on last night for a burst appendix. She has been in pain for more than a month and only been able to get telephone appointments with doctors. One decided she had a stomach ulcer and another
something else. I hope she sues them if she survives
I wonder how many missed diagnoses have happened since March? How many people have needlessly suffered as a result of this exclusive focus on a virus? I wonder why so many people seem to be incapable of seeing that the responses to the virus have and are causing more harm than the virus ever could?
Best wishes for your friend.
Yes, they did indeed “suddenly became bad in March”.
The “bad” of the “bad person” is in the actions or lack thereof; saying someone is “bad person” is really just a shorthand for saying that “this person does or has done bad things”.
Now revealed, these doctors can never be seen as fully “good people” again — but they could still yet do good things before it’s too late for them. Perhaps.
Absolutely. They saw bad and did nothing about it.
I am suddenly reminded of the confession in the CofE communion service – ‘I have done those things which I ought not to have done and left undone those things which I ought to have done’. Lots of people stood by and let things happen back in March when they should have said something. They are condemned by their lack of action as much as their actual actions. Or, to use another religious quote, they ‘passed by on the other side’.
This is a particularly sore point for me, in that I stood by and let my sisters put my very elderly mother in a care home in June, against her wishes. I did not say to them, let’s try some other way. She lasted 5 weeks there before dying of a heart attack..
Following orders?
Good people will speak up after the fact. Many have remained silent. Complicit.
Perhaps you recall Mid Staffs? The NHS killed more than a thousand people. There was a distinct shortage of people speaking out, at any stage.
When you are told to follow orders without knowing its consequences, that’s a case for forgiveness. When you’ve continued to aid the cover up? You’ve chosen your side
The carnage at Mid Staffs went on for years. It wasn’t hidden. It was out in the open. Senior management policies. And anyone, but the wilfully blind, could see the consequences.
This was the conclusion reached by Stanley Milgram. He wanted to understand how the Holocaust could have happened. It seems 60% of humans are Apaths (they take orders) whilst 30% are Empaths (who stand up to injustice) whilst the remaining 10% of psychopaths, sociopaths, narcissists control the Apaths
The third sentence does not appear to be related to the first two.
” Good people happen to be precisely the people one needs to carry out the most barbarous of policies.”
You overstate your case – really, the ‘most barbarous’ of practices.
Good people do not carry out barbarous policies.
Whether a person is good is defined by the actions they take.
Where you are right is pointing out that that bureaucratic indifference is often sufficient.
cf – Hannah Arendt – ‘the banality of evil’
In this case indifference is evil.
Good people are not called good because they are good in some ineffable way, but because they do good.
Those who participated in the care homes disaster were thinking human beings with the capacity to do good or evil.
Insofar as they surrendered their own willingness or capacity to think about what they were doing, they became accomplices.
Each person is responsible for his or her own actions.
“Good people are not called good because they are good in some ineffable way, but because they do good.”
agree!
Yes, each person of the sum total of his or her thoughts, words and deeds.
Whatever I do or do not do – that is who I am.
I agree with this because I am not religious. There is nothing more to us than what goes on in our heads and what effect we have on the outside world
Using your criterion, would you care to estimate how many people in this country are evil?
We are pretty much all of us a mixture of good and evil. A constant struggle going on within each of us.
We all have the capacity to do good, and thereby be good, or to do evil, and to thereby be evil.
You are evading the question. Is it because the number is horribly large?
That’s not my experience of life Steve.
Many people may – at least sometimes – do evil things – but each of us has the capacity to do good.
In my experience, when evil manifests in someone it is often the result of some inner wound.
Child abuse would be a good example. The abused become abusers.
Evil begets evil.
Good begets good.
Every single one of our actions has consequences.
This is why each single act of love or humanity performs not only its own good, but also shows others that a different way is possible.
I know I’m just stating the obvious here, but before long culture in this country will no longer exist. It probably won’t matter whether you like live music, theatre, ballet or opera.
Nine months ago I booked tickets for a concert at the Sage in Gateshead in January 2021 featuring one of my favourite bands and a guitarist I’ve been trying to catch up with since missing him in 1972. The inevitable has happened and the evening has been cancelled with no re-scheduled date. The email from the venue mentioned that over two-thirds of their income comes from ticket sales and donations. They are currently looking to raise £3m to keep going.
It’s been mentioned before that Woodstock took place in a pandemic (Hong Kong flu). If that were to happen today, presumably Jimi Hendrix would be playing in his sitting room and half a million people would be watching on zoom. Not exactly my idea of sex, drugs and rock and roll.
I have no sympathy for venues any more. If you want to raise money to keep going, open your doors and put on a concert. I will be there.
Same, their approach has been to insufferably virtue rave whilst begging for donations and taxpayer bailouts.
Amen. Plus ditch the social distancing and muzzles.
Fight back. If they’re fined, refuse to pay, demand it go to court and keep them busy for 10,000 years.
I keep trying to make this point to my daughter’s ballet school, telling them to defend their own industry. They just say- one last push to defeat the virus, back to zoom classes everyone.
No thanks, i supported them all summer, not anymore.
My 13-year-old granddaughter goes to ballet classes but she is back to doing them at home on zoom. When the ballet school did reopen after summer she had to wear a mask to go in and in the changing rooms. Of course she could take it off in the classroom as it’s such a clever virus.
If they just asked what a ‘case’ is they might have an epiphany
Mr Bart and I donated £20 following the cancellation of the Ring Cycle next year at the Royal Festival Hall. However that will be our first & last donation as not only we can’t afford donating to all and sundry but also we’re angry and upset at the venues and institutions such as the RAH, Royal Opera, LSO, Barbican, etc for their cowardice and complicity – silent at the erosion of our civil liberties but happy to virtue signal over BLM.
I agree with you about virtue-signalling.
But do you realize that you’re doing it from the other side in your simplicities about the venues and what they have to navigate?
I work for a museum and know first hand the compromises that they have to do. We’re told that we have to be seen to be doing something.
All the money spent on sanitisers, cleaning, signage, one way systems have not had the desired effect of attracting visitors.
The venues and other art and cultural institutions are the same, spending all that money kowtowing to Covid “safety” regulations yet they have precious little to show for in terms of visitor numbers and revenue.
Like retail and hospitality, they should have fought this from the word go. They didn’t and they’re all now paying the price.
We have Glastonbury tickets. I met my wife there so it’s our anniversary kind of. They’re rolled over to next year, but I’m resigned to it either not happening or me needing to have had the vaccine to go. It’s a deliberate destruction of the performing arts, much like Mao’s cultural revolution.
Decadent Bourgeois Culture, according to Chairman Mao.
Brought to you by Tories!
Brought to the world by all manner of political leaning governments. This isn’t about left and right, it’s right and wrong, good and evil if you like.
Its weird that most of the people who support the ‘socialist’ culture are from the entertainment world and now being cancelled. Wonder if they will put up a fight.
Nah – most of them I’ve come across are grasping straws at some allowances under a new normal. I was in a group called “Save our scene” but they censored anyone who questioned the narrative. I left, it was nauseating.
Your partisan slip is showing.
The destruction of the arts is designed to silence voices. So our rulers can gaslight us more easily
I like to think Woodstock would have happened anyway because back then “progressivism” actually challenged establishments.
I love classical music and am so unenthused by next year’s program with its unknown performers and the ‘safety’ rules. I live in youknowwhich state in Australia. I get emails for the opera, theatre, classical music, etc but they’re in different states because of course we’re not getting them here. Concerts aren’t coming back anytime soon and it’s just local acts who I don’t see. We’re not even getting NYE fireworks.
God I miss concerts so much. I went to three just in Jan and Feb. I’ve seen so many big names from different genres.
My aunt has just got her money back from a cancelled concert at the Sage, they asked her to donate the ticket money, she said no.
You’ve highlighted a major catastrophe as part of the wider scene of devastation, Biggles.
The effects on the theatre, music and sport sectors are immense and far-reaching. Personally, I think it is a further testament to the impoverished personalities of those who currently end up in parliament; I’m sure that previous times would have seen a major outcry from intelligent parliamentarians with proper life experience on all sides of the political spectrum. It raises massive questions about how we have got to this pass, with the tenth-raters taking over the asylum.
But, of course, it’s not just the professional aspects of these sectors – all produce a wealth of amateur engagement that are part of the essential fabric of society.
I will not vote for anyone who has been complicit in the engineering of this devastation.
Nor me. The entire Establishment – whatever we thought of it, or parts of it – has let us down.
I’m not sure we will have another opportunity to vote
Very sad to see. The Covid Cabal added Sweden to their trophy list. Difficult to be hopeful
https://twitter.com/NeilClark66/status/1328648860156243968?s=20
Hi James,
James here. We are both posting under the same moniker but are not the same people. Could we agree on some form of differentiation otherwise I will get all the credit for your posts.
With love from James F.
I would tell them so.
I would spell it out – perhaps in a quieter way
Happened to come across this article.
https://premierchristian.news/en/news/article/why-i-ve-decided-to-break-the-law-and-open-my-church-during-lockdown?fbclid=IwAR0Lj-g5p8UPyTPBEF1sPsJw-XwWt5Au_3_DRuu3UMRks3eMvuIRYekzUGg#.X61Fi4ZiX-w.facebook
The baptism service was halted by the police.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/angel-church-baptism-lockdown-north-london-b70911.html
He’s a sceptical pastor who is not impressed with Professor Ferguson. https://twitter.com/ReganBlntonKing/status/1322606598796226562
True Christians! Will any of the sceptics consider sending them a message of support? (On Twitter, or here: http://www.theangelchurch.com/
The problem is they may not approve but don’t see an alternative to compliance. I’ve got a mate like that.
How is the news that that twatty twat Cummings has gone been viewed in the UK?
To begin to understand what’s going on here folk need to research into the mad world of the biometrics, bioanalitics and biomedical agenda .
The vaccination plan is to get people used to regular jabbings . Once that happens the biosensing nano particles will be rolled into the jabs.
The govt morons see this as beneficial for multiple reasons:-
1, real time monitoring of individual vital signs, and the ability to “self diagnose” via the app , so no need to visit the gp.
2, monitor lifestyle impacts etc
3, this provides endless work for “tech” boffins and saves huge amounts of health budget costs
this is just the start . From there it’s all the way to permanent tracking of individuals on every level of existence.
They will know exactly what you are doing, when you are doing it , where you are doing it and with who .
Think this is impossible ? Checkout these as a starting point – biometrics update .com , profusa , darpa biochip .
They are already able to tracking people through keystroke analysis on the web and cctv identification by gate ie how you walk , and that’s the tip of the monster .
Then comes a life lived through interaction via the thing we used to call a mobile phone . It will become your means of existence and the injected nano particles will feed directly into it whether you like it or not .
we must resist.
Microsoft have patented a blockchain technology that releases crypto to your e wallet as your fitness tracker hits particular goals. It uses health vitals to measure them. They believe in future you can reduced health insurance costs in real time by exercising more.
It’s attractive that. But it’s this kind of tech which opens the door to social credit aspects of totalitarianism. No money required, you are given benefits or have them taken away based on your contribution to a healthy, sustainable, compliant society.
People are going to get the shock of their lives when the Covid-19 vaccine is mandated (whether it be directly via legislation or indirectly via total exclusion from society).
I predict Q1 2021 for this to be enforced, perhaps a few months later than originally planned.
Anyone who thinks this is paranoid or delusional speculation should study recent statements widely broadcast in MSM from various public figures preparing us psychologically for just such an eventuality.
Yesterday’s UK Column News contained some choice examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MTuA9-aqCs
In the context of my prediction, this comment under the video caught my attention:
“They are never going to give your old life back to you. They have stolen it from you permanently. Things will never go back to how they were. This is what your life looks like from now on, and it will be many times worse in 2021.“
My thought was ‘where are the unions?’.. Where is the civil unrest, the general strikes, the police siding with the people, revolution etc..
Of course it will never happen. Life has been stolen, so I want out. Hopefully governments will offer assisted suicide
The brainwashing has captured almost everyone. Institutions have been particularly zealous due to the concentration of system serving people at executive levels.
No. They don’t. But stupidity has never been hard to find. Just ignore them as much as you can. Am I right in thinking your running a business through this ? Was it a cafe ? Sorry if I am mixing you up.
Without the fines and the threats it would have finished long ago, its the only reason they get compliance for the majority. There are a small minority who are just beyond hope or redemption, but their compromised immune systems will do for them soon enough.
I think mine might too though from the constant relentless stress of it all
I am finding a lot of people to be a lost cause now, they are so deeply committed to the cult. I’ve got no patience left to be able to have a reasoned disscusion with cult members, I just end up losing my temper.
I have just received what amounts to a “red reminder” following last week’s invite for my 6 yo to take part in the REACT swab study. Has anyone else had repeated “invitations” for this “voluntary” study?
They have just been sent an email telling them in no uncertain terms to bog off. Hopefully that will be the last of it.
Read this and see the contempt they even hold their own in.
https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions?SearchTerm=False+positive&DateFrom=19%2F10%2F2020&DateTo=31%2F03%2F2021&AnsweredFrom=&AnsweredTo=&House=Commons&Answered=Any&Expanded=True
For anyone considering one of the new super duper mRNA vaccines, and those of a cautious/suspicious nature.. a viewing of this 2014 interview with Anthony Patch is an absolute must. He nails what’s obviously the agenda for the likes of the Davos set concerning the plebs..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3shYs8AncR0
Just read an article on Lew Rockwell, that says lockdowns, mask wearing and other untested “medical interventions” violate 7 of the 10 laws of the Nuremberg code for medical ethics.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/11/ira-katz/lockdowns-immoral-illegal-and-ineffective/
Yep. They do.
In April WHO said the following about Asymptotic transmission. It is within this problem that most of what is going on seems to be found. For example you need a mask as you might have it and pass it on without knowing.
So April is a 7 months ago. With 800,000,000 infections do we now know for sure that Asymptotic infection occurs ?
“ Asymptomatic transmission
An asymptomatic laboratory-confirmed case is a person infected with COVID-19 who does not develop symptoms. Asymptomatic transmission refers to transmission of the virus from a person, who does not develop symptoms.
There are few reports of laboratory-confirmed cases who are truly asymptomatic, and to date, there has been no documented asymptomatic transmission. This does not exclude the possibility that it may occur. Asymptomatic cases have been reported as part of contact tracing efforts in some countries”
For the answer to that listen to this wonderful, humble man.. Professor Sucharit Bhakdi from Germany
https://youtu.be/ZnpnBYgGARE?t=314
Cheers. Will listen when jogging.
He IS wonderful
Basically, they have no idea if there is asymptomatic transmission, and if there is it is obviously insignificant and not a driver of the epidemic. But to admit that would be to admit that masks and social distancing for people without symptoms are useless.
… and to undermine Operation Moonshite.
Well what counts as a “case” then?
Hmmmm. Having noticed the determined increase in the covid-spreading threat propaganda, my suspicious mind went into overdrive:
Downing Street has a problem with covid-safety measures:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/16/serious-doubts-over-covid-safety-in-government-union-warns
There are “serious doubts” about coronavirus safety in government, the biggest civil servants’ union has warned, …. It has also raised questions about Covid security inside Downing Street, with three MPs at the event having previously posted photographs of themselves standing about a metre from Johnson, with no one wearing a face mask.
So has WHO Geneva:
https://apnews.com/article/65-virus-cases-who-staff-geneva-4e133325afec1d3f309ab184138e6f73
In the email, which was sent to staff on Friday, Raul Thomas, who heads business operations at WHO, noted that five people — four on the same team and one who had contact with them— had tested positive for COVID-19. That could indicate that basic infection control and social distancing procedures in place may have been broken.
Coincidence?
https://www.ouh.nhs.uk/working-for-us/staff/documents/staff-testing-privacy-statement.pdf#:~:text=The%20test%20is%20not%20100,Tests%20are%20completely%20voluntary.
70% accurate tests….. not sure of the date on this document though.
24/04/20 you can get the detail from the document itself
Scrap the tests and the ‘pandemic’ vanishes
A colleague involved in the testing was on contract until March, being extended for 6 months.
So, they are telling us that Covid numbers are increasing through a lockdown. What a load of rubbish. Will they keep their lies going until the ‘Great Reset’ controls everything?
Yes… and No!
As the day of the January 2021 gathering in Davos comes closer the number of lies and the spewing of PROPAGANDA will increase at the same rate as the number of FAKE POSITIVES amplifications.
It’s been postponed till summer, and the venue will be different.
At least the public side is postponed but they will keep the clowns working “Forum will digitally convene high-level “Davos Dialogues””…
The representatives of the SRFand the Billionaires running the Circus will keep flying on private jets and have meetings and dinners to fine tune the next operation.
If they are increasing through a lockdown, then what is the bloody point of a lockdown? People need to grow up and realise that shit happens. People die, old people die more than young people and more people die in a pandemic. You don’t just shut down the whole world because of a disease with an ifr of about 0.3% and an average age of death somewhere over eighty. That’s completely insane and unprecedented in the whole of human history.
People do know, some agree, some disagree, but the governments keep going with the agenda, it seems.
They will say the lockdown isn’t strict enough.
That’s fundamentally it. Everything else is just noise.
Perhaps that’s a good thing? numbers of cases going up in lockdown. I was wondering if that might be the case when you make everyone stay at home together!!
They will blame the people for flouting the rules and make the measures more draconian.
So… that scoundrel MF (Matt Hancock) was in a public square and NOT EVEN ONE EGG or ROTTEN TOMATO or a PoS hit his face?!
No surprise he still laughs!
Can you get salmonella from a thrown egg? Wouldn’t that be a delightful irony…
With the proper egg… yes!
We desperately need a new Government that is not Conservative not Labour both have shown themselves as utterly incompetent authoritarian and untrustworthy Boris Johnson Keir Starmer are dreadful Human beings https://www.saveourrights.uk
Good question…
Who is The Great Reset for?
https://twitter.com/ScottyKBF/status/1328396951155597316?s=20
Yeadon about to be on TR
Has this video been posted? Time is of the essence (before Davos in Jan 2021) according to Prof Cahill. Esp listen to about 30 mins in but all of it really- any attempt at mandatory vaccination Dr Cahill will sue for attempted murder.. She expects significant deaths from the vaccine..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoOor_uEQTs&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3Jv64lmZd3GbW0j8176r8snp9jIFomFOcNXQZXtZcm7RpoId268rjd94Q
Davos has been postponed. Also new venue. But I’ll watch that later thanks.
It’s funny how the ‘left’ who used to criticise and protest against the Davos and big business elite have now joined forces with them to crush the few who truly fight for freedom. The whole establishment and media have united agains the forces for choice and freedom and embraced big state technocracy and the police state. The Guardian readership openly celebrate peaceful protestors being beaten and arrested.
The green movement, for one, has long been consumed by big business interests. They want a graduated reset for them so they maintain their power, while it’s total dystopia for the rest of us.
I am reminded of Ayn Rand and her Atlas Shrugged book. Gaults Gulch seems to me to be a place reserved for the sceptics. Those who do not wish to be part of the world until it collapses in on itself.
So true.. I have a long term friend, a Marxist on steroids. The idiot is celebrating the downfall of capitalism. I’ve tried to inform him who the Davos set are, but to no avail..
Tucker Carlson slams Trudeau over the “great reset”
Video
https://twitter.com/BarrettWilson6/status/1328508732528005120
Turdeau isn’t the only one. Joe Biden’s transition web site is buildbackbetter.com. Doesn’t make me feel any better than our PM isn’t the only one spouting this traitorous nonsense. Coincidence that world leaders are parroting the WEF slogan?
James Delingpole: Government handling of Covid “is the biggest scam in the history of the world”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9MOfl9layM
I put this comment on the BBC website
“SARS-COV-2 is now endemic.
There is no second wave, just the normal autumnal increase that all corona viruses follow.
Why this continual testing?
The RT-PCR test is not fit for purpose at 40+ cycles.
If you don’t have symptoms then why test?
The NHS is not being overwhelmed.”
The comment was removed because :
”Your comment was considered to have broken the following House Rule:
“We reserve the right to fail comments which…
Are considered likely to disrupt, provoke, attack or offend others
Are racist, sexist, homophobic, sexually explicit, abusive or otherwise objectionable
Contain swear words or other language likely to offend””
Defund the BBC.
It’s the only way to be sure.
Let’s stick to the original and just nuke the site from orbit.
I’m liking your thinking. Possibly issues with collateral damage, but not necessarily insurmountable. Can’t make an omelette, etc.
The comment was removed because:
It contradicts the negative message the government has told us to put out.
You obviously offended someone. Or provoked them to think. Or attacked the narrative. Or disrupted the agenda. That’s reason enough under our new normal.
You were censored by a bot. This is a bit like that app that children are encouraged to use when they write things on SM or at school. It scans what they type then decided if they can send it or do they want to re-phrase things in order not to offend the recipient, say sexist, racist, homophobic or anti-trans things.
Ai like this is now censoring everything automatically.
If you pay your licence fee, you need to stop. Today. I stopped many months ago, there is literally nothing they can do.
Can you do that without notifying them? And does it mean you shouldn’t be watching i-player or anything like that. I was hoping the law would be amended to decriminalisate non-payment but that hasn’t happened has it. Now thinking of cancelling it anyway.
The rules say you must have a licence to watch iPlayer.
Additionally, if you watch or record any live broadcast from anywhere in the world by any means, you must have a TV licence. So, no governmental overreach there.
On the contrary there seems to be no limit to what they can do.
My wife’s sister has been in a care home for dementia for the past 16 months and being of an age that previously did not require a licence, there was no licence for the premises when she went into the care home.
We have had to sell the house to pay for her care and the house is now virtually empty and certainly has no resident nor any device capable of receiving a TV broadcast .
TVlicencing have twice been informed of this, but still they send very menacing lettes demanding the money. The latest (remember they are sending this to someone they know is nearly 80, with dementia) said they they have investigated the property and are arranging a court hearing to enter the premises with police attendance (presumably by breaking down the door because the place is untenanted) and they threaten fines of £1000 + expenses and the possibity of imprisonment..
There seems to be no way one can correct their misapprehensions . Either the staff at TV licencing are totally incompetent and illiterate or they are prepared to do anything to get their hands on money even or especially when they are not entitled to it. And there is nothing we can say or do to stop them it seems.
Shocking.
For the beeb not so much.
This is the comment I put on the appeal form:
Your comments: Why are you removing a post that is perfectly valid.
There is evidence that SARS-COV-2 is endemic.
There is evidence that there is no second wave and that the current infection trajectory is common to other corona viruses
There is evidence that the PCR test using 40+ steps is inappropriate, the inventor said as much
There is evidence from the test manufacturer that it should only be used prescriptively by a physician within 5 days of symptom onset.
There’s evidence that the NHS is not being overwhelmed.
Therefore what is your objection, other than it doesn’t fit with the BBC’s view of reality.
Will you let us know if they respond?
The whole situation is outrageous.
”In war, truth is the first casualty.”
They have reinstated the comment.
“Dear BBC User,
Thank you for contacting the BBC.
In this instance, it appears your comment was removed in error so we have reinstated it.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention and please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.
Due to the volume of correspondence we receive, we are unable to discuss this matter further.
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Well done!
Sebastian Rushworth on Long Covid. I’m inclined to agree with him that it’s not an extraordinary or unique issue.
https://sebastianrushworth.com/2020/11/17/what-is-long-covid/
Dr. Rushworth nails it!
Earlier this year I saw a patient with upper right abdominal pain. The test for acute gall bladder was positive and I referred him to the surgeons for further assessment.
He had been in ITU for quite a while with CoViD19 about 6 weeks earlier.
I wasn’t going to dismiss it as being covid related, but that wasn’t my call, even without the history I was going to send him anyway, so my management did not change.
I have seen people with Guillain-Barre syndrome after having had gastroenteritis. I have seen one person, when I worked in A&E, who had unexplained bruising 2 weeks after gastroenteritis. Post viral syndromes definitely exist, but are quite rare. I think they are more due to an over sensitive immune system causing an autoimmune response.
Long Covid sounds like a malingerers illness and some seem to like the attention it gives them. Social media has a lot to answer for.
Post viral syndrome is nothing new. It took me ages to recover from a horrid bout of chicken pox in my 20s. By the way, not sure I’ve ever come across asymptomatic chicken pox either!
Dr R also wrote excellently on the PCR test:
https://sebastianrushworth.com/2020/11/06/how-accurate-are-the-covid-tests/
Another Historical Parallel
So today’s quote comes from Nevil Shute’s “Slide Rule” (1954)
“It was no fault of the Cardington party that they had the Air Ministry press department always nagging at their elbow for a story to put out in order that the expenditure of public money might be justified, but the effect was a stream of optimistic forecasts in the newspapers from the men who were building the R101 which in the end were to build a ring fence around them from which there was no escape.”
Of course airships are perfectly safe.
Deny that and Labour will put you in prison.
.. and the R101 crashed.
A typical comment from a Telegraph reader, these account for about 80% of the views now:-
“So Johnson is self-isolating so he can hide in a cupboard when the inevitable Brexit breakdown fallout happens.
And did this odious Government not seriously think about the potential downside in levelling £10k fines on folk who clearly do not have the means to pay and would likely stuff their lives up for years to come?
The People really are getting angry…”
Not enough are getting angry that’s the problem.
The Telegraph readers in the comments section are increasingly getting fed up with the paper which is increasing becoming nanny statist, globalist and anti freedom.
Most of the readers want a smaller state and less government interference and the Telegraph go and employ columnist like Celia Walden who want the opposite. I am sure many readers are ready to jump ship if a better alternative comes along, the same with the Spectator.
What is also interesting is the number of dissenting voices that come out with the same thing on the comments. They completely avoid any engagement with the discussion and statistics and just keep spouting the government narrrative. Are they from GCHQ disinformation division or just general “run of the mill” trolls?
I used to occasionally get bombarded with automated troll comments on the Telegraph, always unrelated scripted insults, they came back quicker than anyone could possibly type. I complained to the Telegraph and they didn’t bother replying so I just cancelled my subscription and split the money saved between independent media.
CW’s column in the main section of today’s Telegraph has absolutely nothing on Matthew Lynn’s piece in today’s business section on ‘the vaccine’. A really appalling rant from a normally reliable economic writer which needs Toby’s attention in tomorrow’s LS offering.
Agreed, I commented on that last night, appalling. And tellingly, no comments allowed.
I started taking the Speccie again on hearing they were forgoing state cash. But now unsubscribing and switching my lucre to FSU and LS among other better things.
How many people are aware of this study:
https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/points-of-information/new-study-lockdowns-masks-are-useless-and-might-even-increase-covid-19-spread/
A recently completed research study by Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in cooperation with the Naval Medical Research Center and published in the New England Journal of Medicine has found that strict quarantine, tightly controlled social distancing, and continuous use of masks did absolutely nothing to contain the spread of COVID-19, and might even have increased its spread.
First, the study used 1,843 Marine volunteers, individuals well trained to follow orders as well as the required procedures. Second, their quarantine took place at Marine facility under the supervision of the military. Both factors meant that the volunteers were going to follow procedures much more correctly than the general public.
It was in the round up a couple of days back. Lets face it though, there are thousands upon thousands of studies by serious, distinguished experts in many, many fields pointing these things out, and they don’t seem to make any headway at all with the idiot population.
I’d sent this to a lockdown fanatic saying it was a head scratcher to say the least.
His response was that they were sharing rooms, it was bound to happen. Can’t wait till they bring in all these misinformation laws and people like him will be gagged for denouncing scientific research in such ways.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/nhs-nurse-suspended-after-branding-23020112
A brave nurse has been suspended,and we are about to corralled in Tier 4! Utter madness!
The Holyrood Harridan has spoken. For the next three weeks until 11th December I’m in lockdown.
Same here;everything closes once more.Economic vandalism. Social destruction. I can’t take much more of this.
8 months’ worth of open, close, do this, don’t do that.
How on earth will our struggling small businesses survive this latest imposition?
They won’t and sadly it’s all part of the plan.
Just listened to Ian Collins’ interview of James Delingpole (yesterday). At the end someone had sent a tweet (or text) saying:
“As I am on furlough and receiving money for this, the least I can do is follow the rules”
This is probably the reason that many are not pushing back. People like this just don’t seem to understand that they are on furlough because of the government’s ineptitude and are somehow grateful for the government’s handout.
Dependency breeds compliance. That’s what they’re counting on.
The latest from the Bernician.
COVID-1984 PCP UPDATE | My experience of the past few days reminds me of Muhammad Ali’s journey through the Rumble in the Jungle.
After being bludgeoned with George Foreman’s sledgehammer fists for seven rounds, Ali knocked him out in the eighth round, when Foreman had exhausted himself and could hardly lift his arms, let alone defend himself.
So following my seven rounds of absorbing all the punches and low blows from numerous opponents, here lies a redacted copy of the email we received last Friday, confirming that I wasn’t talking “nonsense”, “coo-coo” or “fantasy” and that the warrant application was due to be processed yesterday.
Since beginning to write this post, we have received the following email from the Chief Magistrates office:
“I can confirm that the application was sent to the Senior District Judge last Friday and she nominated a District Judge based at Westminster Magistrates Court to deal with your application.
As we are an administrative office only, we cannot process your application and it must be dealt with by a court. This is now with the legal team at Westminster Magistrates Court and once the Judge has made his ruling you will be hearing from them direct.”
The ruling the judge has to make is as follows:
1. Whether the criminal procedure and practice directions have been adhered to, in which case the arrest warrant must be issued.
2. Whether the accused should be arrested, or ordered to give himself up at the local police station by a certain time, to be charged and brought before the crown court to plead.
3. Whether the case is of such public importance that it must be taken over by the Director of Public Prosecutions.
In summary, the warrant application has now been approved by the legal advisers at the magistrates court in Suffolk where we laid the papers, as well as the Chief Magistrate and her legal advisers.
Now all we need to happen for the warrant to be issued, one way or another, is to clear the final hurdle – obtaining the approval of the legal team at Westminster Magistrates Court.
News on that front will follow, as soon as it comes in, whilst my detractors wince at the denouement of the truth revealing itself for all to see.
To the vast majority who kept the faith, no matter what anybody falsely claimed, thank you. Your loyalty will never be forgotten.
I see Matt Hancock has read this post and he doesn’t like it.
Basileus – I think I am missing the back story to this – where can I find it, or can you give a brief explanation to the background.
It is quite a long story Ozzie, but you can start with these two websites:
https://www.thefreedomcycle.com
thebernician.net
‘rope a dope’
What exactly are essential items?
Went into Kidderminster this morning and I walked through one of the 2 small shopping centres and every shop including a cafe ( takeaway food) and a branch of “Bodycare” was closed EXCEPT 2 businesses; Santander bank ( fair enough) and a photo shop; now how essential is having photos printed off and buying photograph albums and frames?
Still, I suppose it makes as much sense as anything else in this mad world.
Betting shops open I take it?
Of course.
Great news guys. I’ve just discovered a vaccine for Coronavirus that will be a real game changer. It has a 99.95% success rate in preventing the illness which is way above even the most optimistic projections of the others in development. It also has no side-effects and, you’re not going to believe this, I’ve found a way to make it completely free, not even R&D costs. It’s actually a natural remedy that involves eating some fruit and vegetables, getting some fresh air, exercise and sunlight and mixing with other people. It will also help if you are exposed to some germs and dirt when you are younger. What’s more it’s even been found to have a significant benefit for a whole range of conditions, not just Covid.
Too good to be true? Well I tried going to the pharmaceutical companies but they rejected it because they couldn’t find a way to use it to siphon off billions of pounds from the public purse. So I tried going to the government instead and they weren’t interested either which was a bit more confusing. They didn’t really say why. I did contact the BBC for a bit of publicity but they thought it was a bit too boring to tell people about.
Anyway, I’ve got to go now as a car has pulled up outside my house and two very serious looking men in dark glasses have got out. I’ll just go and see what they want. Ta-ta for now.
Who knew the immune system was so controversial?
In my younger years I knew a very clever medic at Oxford uni (I wasn’t at the uni I hasten to add). He discovered a one time cure for psoriasis (which I suffer from). Thinking he was set for life, he approached the pharma companies and was point blank turned down on every front. Why? Because there is no money in a 100% cure but there is in ongoing treatments.
The lifelong autoimmune issues that will result from the vaccine will give big pharma patients for life. It’s a great business model — make people sick and then provide the drugs to mask the symptoms. At a hefty profit, of course.
Have you ever seen the film “The man in the White suit”?
The plot involves a man who creates a material which never wears out and of course the clothing manufacturers and unions hale him as a hero until they realise that after the initial sales of clothing made from this material, they wouldn’t be able to or need to sell anymore.
Exactly along the lines of the situation you described.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulUI7JsFjZU
The Great Lightbulb Conspiracy
but the material proved to be unstable and disintegrated. much like the current prime minister and his government
BRILLIANT analogy.
Did you jot down the details ?
Date: 17/11/23
Location: undisclosed
Message: scrambled
The underground movement have sent you this food parcel containing dried goods and vitamins with all good wishes from your fellow dissenters on the outside.
We are sorry to hear, via our secret agents within the gulag/re-education facility of your most recent mind control ordeal.
We have managed to contact your family and assured them of your survival.
Keep strong my brother for victory will be ours.
It is now illegal to travel between council areas in Scotland and to travel to England – imagine the uproar in the media here if this was announced in Russia or North Korea! The sheeple will still think they are getting to go back to the pub and to Primark after they have been injected with their sterilising fluid.
It is too late now, society has changed irrevocably; no return to whatever you thought you had before March. Stalin will be pushing for mandatory vaccinations and the sheeple will praise ‘Nicola’ for ‘doing a great job’ as their lives lie in ruins.
We are imprisoned;there’s no other way to describe this. My small town will struggle to survive .
As Johnson said, devolution is disastrous. For the simple reason that she will not be challenged, opposed or asked to pay for any of this. UK Government should start challenging this, in the courts if necessary. These people are British citizens, not Scottish ones
But is it illegal? Can you be arrested for attempting to leave the country?
It is utterly unenforceable, but that isn’t the point.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-54960948?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5fb3dfaf10a1c302d6fbde18%26Travel%20restrictions%20to%20become%20law%262020-11-17T14%3A36%3A17.214Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:a91acb9b-c6d9-47fc-94a3-ae71139d78d4&pinned_post_asset_id=5fb3dfaf10a1c302d6fbde18&pinned_post_type=share
According to bbc, yes “it will become law from Friday “. We will not be allowed to leave our own council areas except for certain essential purposes.
I could cry, can’t believe we’re walking in fact running into allowing this wee witches dictatorship.
https://clearyourhead.scot/
And she’s offered this piece of patronising gobbledegook to help us to stay sane,as an alternative to calling 111
imagine the call to 111-‘I’m going round the bend; my head’s exploding; I’m under house arrest; even the libraries have closed again; I’m starting to hallucinate about freedom and enjoying life; I’m talking to myself-there’s no one else to talk to’.
111 : ‘There’s no one available to take your call; please call back later’.
She knows it’s tough:
“Our objective in taking this action now is to protect the NHS, create the prospect of seeing some loved ones at Christmas and completing the journey to next spring with as few restrictions as possible and with the minimum impact on life and health.”
GRrrrrr!!
How can anyone be taken in by this touchy-feely propaganda? And note next spring-ominous.
“Journey”
Remember every little folksy pause, chuckle, and aside is endlessly practiced in front of the mirror.
Someone on the beeb going for the ‘should have been done earlier’ angle. If that’s the only thing to stop the hero worship – we’ll take it
Because she is ‘doing better than Boris.’ Most of the Scottish people deserve everything they are getting.
Unfortunately I have to agree with you. The amount of highly educated people I know are being taken in, hook line and whatever.
Also the same ones are retired and none of this effects them money wise and believe it’s for a greater good.
I really wish I could say it was mainly the less educated thinking this is OK, it’s not and no one is listening to me because I’m just a cleaner.
Is it not strange how easily the educated persuade themselves of the rightness of something that anyone without such advantages can see is nonsense?
My ex, a PHD but a rebel, always used to say that those most educated by the system always stuck the closest to it
Yes, they have more invested in it. That goes for anyone ‘doing well’ within a particular system.
Don’t say that about yourself; you’re a free thinking intelligent soul who can see through the spin and the propaganda.
My lockdown adherent friends are all retired home owners with decent incomes and savings.
It was always going to be next spring (if that) for all of us, everywhere.
The inefficiency of the NHS in Scotland has been laid bare today. The entire country has 93 “Covid” patients in ICU, so Nicola has locked down over 2 million people to “protect the NHS”.
Ridiculous isn’t it. Just heard her still use the term “infections” to describe a positive test! It’s just flat out lying.
… or a degree of stupidity that should bar her from public office.
Which will leave 14 days until Christmas. Most of them here will be obey without question: she’s like a female Svengali,so great is her hold over the faithful.
Her goons have already made noises about cancelling Christmas. And yes, demanding a pathetic, miserable “virtual” knock-off is as good as cancelling it.
Why are people getting fines when they are under no obligation to open the door to the police without a warrant?
COVID-19: Police to stop issuing £10,000 ‘super fines’ over concerns they can be challenged in court: Sky News page.
Delores Cahill says that we all need to ask what the Causal agent of the coronavirus is, before accepting that there can be a vaccine.
Just thought I’d cancel a few direct debits…
————-
TO: contactus@amnesty.org
SUBJECT: What is Amnesty International’s stance on COVID-19?
Good Afternoon,
I have been a donor to Amnesty International for a number of years now.
I was pleased that the little I could afford to give every month went towards protecting human rights around the globe.
As a UK citizen, for the last 8 months I and millions of my countrymen have been under virtual house arrest and had many of the human rights (enshrined in the UN Declaration of Human Rights) taken away from us.
It is becoming clear from official statistics that “the virus” is not as lethal as what the news or government says and there is much evidence that the PCR tests that they use to determine the number of “cases” is not accurate and should not be used for mass population testing in the way that it has been.
I wondered what Amnesty was doing to try and restore all of our rights.
I also wondered what the official view of Amnesty International is regarding forced vaccinations.
I have cancelled my Direct Debit and will not consider donating again until I receive a satisfactory reply.
Thanks,
DONOR-SLAVE-357
You ought to write to Chakrabatty at ‘Liberty’ as well.
This is an email that I received from Liberty a couple of weeks ago (I am on its list, but don’t donate – thankfully):
Thats great. Rather donate to Free Speech Union
I’ve done the same. I was giving a monthly donation to our Hospital For Sick Children and would have continued as they came out in July with a recommendation that school proceed normally and that kids not be masked or social distanced. Then, under political pressure, a minority of the signatories did a reversal and recommended masks from grade 4 and above. Now our provincial government has gone one further and masked all children, even 4-year-olds in junior kindergarten. No more money from me. My charitable giving is now going only to people and organizations that are fighting for freedom.
i did the same to the BBC
I’ve been putting up links on FB posts all over the place for the FSU
In recent years I and members of my family have been refering to that organisation as ‘SHAMnesty International’ as it is one of the many ‘uman rites’ NGOs whos attitude to the migrant crisis in Europe is to side with the migrants and give European citizens a damn good kicking every time they preceive that we are not looking after the migrants properly.
you didn’t arrive by dingy with a shiny iphone therefore Amensty International don’t give two hoots about you!
Hancock looks like a total loon in that still from the interview with piss moron.
Both of them make what must be the most nauseating LS headline image yet but the Handy Cock especially.
He always looks like a total loon.
In the Plantation where I slave on, we have a fresh court of appeals ruling stating that:
This was a ruling made on Nov 11, 2020, so it’s fresh, but I’m not seeing any signs of changes! In fact there is almost ZERO news about this one… The USUAL!
source
Fascinating legal analysis of the logic of PCR testing as an indicator of disease.
The conclusions are so f.ing obvious.
Sad part… Even this doesn’t matter!
A page of guff that bases itself on the premise that “Covid-19” is real, thus communicating to those who read it that “Covid-19” is real.
A List Of FBEL’s Covid-19 Articles – And Brief Comments Regarding Continuation Of Coronahoax
I couldn’t agree more.
If a discussion assumes the validity of the basic covid-19 narrative, then it strengthens that narrative.
What`s the case with the https://www.deagel.com/ website ?
people keep mentioning it – esp considering it means doomsday for us by 2025,
or are the people behind it simply trolling the “great satan” ie USA and UK !!
The forecasts are predicated on the end of western welfare states as a result of financial crisis.
The population reductions to come about as a result of the collapse of pensions, health care and aged care, and civil strife as groups fight for greater shares of dwindling pies.
The authors also anticipate net emigration.
It is not just US and UK, but all western states with unfundable welfare states going forward, shrinking tax bases and ever fewer productive industies.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TiceRichard/status/1328666061848375317
Breaking news: lateral flow tests in Liverpool show 80% fewer positive cases than govt PCR.
Tests touted by PHE as 99.7% accurate.
… and even then, do we know the status (re. actual infection) of a ‘positive’ test?
It’s such a shit-show.
The 2 tests are not testing the same populations.
PCR – Symptomatic so more likely to test positive.
LF – Asymptomatic so less likely to test positive.
I agree this could be an issue. Without knowing the composition of the two different groups it’s hard to judge. Poor science for that info not to be collected.
Plenty of people with no symptoms go for Tier 2 testing from my knowledge. People who need weekly tests for work etc. Also how do we know that no one with symptoms went for LFT to get a quick and easy answer? Think it was open to all.
I thought all the LFTs were followed up with PCR but there’s no mention of that here.
Yet, the ONS (representative sample) also shows far higher rate than the Liverpool mass testing.
True I forgot about that, ONS is supposedly random.
ONS asserts that the study is a representative sample.
but havent people who are asymptomatic, but have been told to get a test because of a possible contact with a positive person (eg child contact at school) , going to test centres and being tested with the PCR test.
Evidence?
‘All participants receive two tests, the standard PCR test and the rapid turnaround (within 1 hour) lateral flow Innova test.’
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4436
Fair point.
However you can compare lateral flow with the ONS random sampling which showed 2.2% SARS-CoV2 +ve for the week to 6th November for the North West.
Given Liverpool is supposedly the hardest hit region of the North West not unreasonable to assume ONS gives at least 2.2% for Liverpool
The lateral flow test gave 0.7% for Liverpool
So at least 68% or so lower for LF vs PCR perhaps in Liverpool
Oh dear more bollocks from Mayo
Everytime someone mentions the P C R test and up it pops like a little imp .
I’m not convinced. How can you possibly know this?
All it needs is for weekly publication of the PCR false positive rate for the Pillar 2 labs. Not rocket science, but I doubt that it would follow the allowed narrative.
According to the BBC, there were 90 000 lateral flow tests conducted in Liverpool during the first week of mass testing. Of these, 336 were positive. Given a false positive rate of 0.3, 270 of these would have been false positives. This means Liverpool (which is where we are told the virus is out of control) 66 people out of 90 000 have the virus. And, of course, we are not told how many of the 66 are ill. This is going to require some serious spin to sell it as evidence of an out of control spread of the virus.
Here are the figures from Liverpool City Council.
I wish we knew what those two groups were. Both are labelled as mass testing. Were the LFTs and PCRs carried out on the same people (there are more people in the LFT group), was the PCR testing just random or part of the usual Tier 2, how many had symptoms etc etc. Yet more useless data from the govt.
The lateral flow tests are those being administered by the Army to anyone who turns up at their testing centres and in the schools. Most likely this is a random selection of the population (at least a random selection of the worried well!)
But the argument is, PCR tests more symptomatic people so more likely to be positive. But without knowing how many in each group had symptoms, it’s hard to make any kind of judgement.
The PCR positive rate of 2.8% is within the envelope for the known false positive rate. As Mike Yeadon said earlier on Talk Radio, if the lateral flow test is to be believed, the SARS-CoV-2 virus has all but disappeared from Liverpool
Dolores Cahill excellent explanations of this
Well, as of this coming Friday, my area has been put into tier 4 by the little dictator that is El Presidente Sturgeon. Supposed to be for only 3 weeks!!! What an arsehole that she is!!
Absolutely no need whatsoever for this, the schools & only essential business can stay open.
I am seriously angry at this, I have just booked a course that was to start on the 3rd of December, it was confirmed about 2 hours ago & then she announced this!!
So, I am now waiting on the phone call to say that it’s not going to go ahead now. The course is to help me get a job, as I passed my HGV category C licence last week, so need to do my CPC initial to enable me to be able to apply for jobs.
This announcement has just fucked that completely & now it will more than likely be rescheduled into January 2021!!!
Thanks a fucking lot you little boot!!!
Scotland, population of almost 7 million people, coronavirus “cases” of 178 odd out of 100,000 people in my area, talk about overkill!!!
When is there going to be an uprising against this shit??
Sorry for my rant, but this has just fucked me totally employment wise.
Happy Xmas!!
IMO anything related to HGV driving should be classed as essential. It won’t be, of course. That would require her understanding how the private sector economy actually works.
Exactly, she just doesn’t have a fucking clue!! I am just off the phone to the company where I am doing the course, I phoned them to ask if it would still go ahead, I got my answer which I won’t post, but he also said that the people who were booked for next week to do their HGV Driving lessons & test are now not able to do them & are being re-booked for February next year!!
That is not the training companies fault, or a rant against them at all, they are absolutely brand new to deal with, but they went 6 months without any income at the start of the first lockdown, started getting back on their feet & now, el Presidente has basically fucked them again!!!
Unbelievable.
If it saves just one life …
I don’t see any signs of a resistance. Scottish people like being slaves to their government. Barring family I would have left a long time ago..
I know, that’s what I don’t understand either.
Can you just go on the course anyway and ignore the daft hoor’s wee lockdown tantrum? She had to outdo Boris and that Welsh nobody somehow (speaking of which I better stock up on tampax now before she tries to ban Tesco from selling it!).
I’m pretty sure in the extremely unlikely scenario that plod pulls you over that travelling out of the plague zone for “work reasons” is a legit excuse. My partner will be continuing to drive from our Glasgow city centre flat to his work in Livingston, and the old boot can take a hike up the Erskine Bridge if she doesn’t like it.
I am in the area that your partner drives to for his work. I fully intend to not abide by this. I have my answer about the training course, but that could still be subject to change. It’s everyone else that she has fucked now. If I had been doing my HGV Lessons & test this week, my test on Friday would more than likely not be going ahead now. It’s the people who are booked for next week that I genuinely do feel sorry for, I waited 2 months to do mines because of the backlog created by the first lockdown.
Sturgeon was funny when she used to play Rab Nesbitt’s wife in that sitcom, but she’s just a total pain now.
I thought that little cap she used to wear really suited her
Hope that this petition doesn’t get many signatures
The ‘vast-anti-vaxxer industry’
Really, can you name one anti-vaxxer company and tell me its current share price
Surely if a 3rd of people won’t have it then there’ a reason for that!
What “vast anti-vaxxer industry”? Is that supposed to be in some way comparable to the pharmaceutical industry?
“Tell the UK government: no more anti-vaccine lies, rein in big tech now” HA HA HA!
I assume that pro-vaccine lies are fine then
They didn’t honestly do that £1bn for anti vaxxers hahahah
How many billions does big pharma aka pro vaxxers earn???
Ok, this petition is what the reality is out there. I love this site and it is probably one of the reason why I have not topped myself but I admit it is an echo chamber. A good ,positive one, which encourages debate and rational thinking and evidence , but one nonetheless. The world outside is ugly and brainwashed to the max . I travel to work every day and I’m normally the only non masked person on the whole train , tube, bus etc. More and more people are wearing masks outside and compliance will soon be total.I’m the crazy person who will not take the untested , possibly dangerous vaccine and will not wear mask but they are the righteous ,virtues and true believers in the cult of Covid. I’m afraid this will only get uglier and when having a vaccine will be the difference between traveling, going to sports events, gallery’s, theaters, parks , publics transport and then of course jobs or being a Savage , pariah, lapper I will probably clock out. There is not enough of us, we have no organization and even between sceptics there is a massive division and name calling ( David Icke, 5G, NWo and the other ones) By the time the genral public wakes up ( if ever) it will be too late. We will be wearing mask FOR EVER, until we die ( I’m only 40)and our children will grow up with thinking that other people are dangerous ,virus infected meat bags and the Great reset will be complete. Just because we know about it does not mean we can do anything to stop it.Can you stop a tsunami by waving a towel?
The plebs have showed that they love the lies and the shit the government is feeding them and they will do what ever it takes to be good little obedient subjects. Look if they told them tomorrow that they all need to crawl on their knees as Covid only lives under 1,2m , they would all do it, no questions. When a country of 60 millions and a a capital of 9 millions manages 35000 on the Covid demo , that tells me we are fucked as a society.
I will keep fighting but no because I think we can win ( we can’t ) but because it’s better do die on your feet that live on your knees. Rant over!
I really love these uplifting posts!
It’s not an echo chamber. It’s an encyclopedia, a research digest, a legal primer, a media monitoring body and a centre for free debate – among other things.
If Reform or Reclaim get out of the blocks, they need to go on the offensive. Our free speech rights need to be enshrined in a new Bill of Rights. Anone acting to limit our exercise of those rights should be subject to severe legal penalties including custodial sentences.
Dear Lockdoen
Denmark Says NO To Lockdown Law & Government Relent #PeoplePower
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zadErfQ2pMY
I notice that Kew Gardens is open. OK all the glass houses are closed and restaurants are take away only, and you have to pre-book at a reduced price but there is a lot to see outside there anyway. Not taking the car there but easy trip on the train. Has anybody experience of travelling on the train during lockdown and have they been questioned about ‘non essential’ travel? Might be worth a day out.
Another indication on how pointless this ‘lockdown’ is.
I know people that have travelled by train and tube with no issues
It’s recreation
Nobody will ask you why you travel..not even trough C London.
In the unlikely event of being asked where you are going by a police constable (anyone else who asks should be told to mind their own) you simply say you are visiting your support bubble/travelling for work/shopping/out for exercise (use as applicable). I regularly travel from East Anglia to London because I am in a ‘support bubble’ with a relative there. There is no need to worry about the ‘essential travel’ nonsense.
I am increasingly struggling with even vaguely understanding people who support the government/media. To take just one example – the cost of mass testing has been put at £100 billion. Let’s just say that someone really does think Covid is killing quite a few people, even some young people. And that they also think that a way out of this is mass testing because it allows people to get out and about. But, even then, how can someone possibly think it is an appropriate use of money, and I mean even vaguely appropriate use of money, to spend what amounts to 2/3rds of the NHS annual budget on partially tackling just one medical condition that is killing some people. It’s just insanity. It really is a cult.
Where does that money go? That’s 1 thousand MILLION pounds.
1 thousand million is one billion.. So 100 billion is 100 thousand million..
Good point, ha, even worse!
At the moment most people who support the cult have seen not one penny taken from them to finance that. People in private enterprise are already losing money so they know. People in the public service who can think critically know it’s madness but they are in a minority. It will all be too late for us when it starts to really hurt the sheltered masses. They have no conception at all of the cost because it doesn’t stare them in the face.
If only it were possible to opt out of the costs of the cult. I’d happily forego the “benefits”.
I agree that’s what’s keeping it going. But surely anyone with half a brain, or even a quarter of a brain, can see how disproportionate it is to spend 2/3rds of the annual NHS budget on just track and trace for Covid.
Surely!!!!!
Another contributor a few days back said consider someone with average intelligence, then consider that half the people are of lower intelligence than that.
Then consider that the Westminster 650 are likely to be skewed towards the lower end of the normal distribution anyway.
Commercial pressure on Sweden?
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/amazon-sweden-launch?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB
…. Amazon, he said, did not so far seem to have succeeded in getting that many Swedish brands or retailers to sign up to use their platform. “It sounds like they’ve been struggling. I don’t know what their ambitions were, but there are rumours in the media about slower-than-anticipated pick-up rates.”
…. Even if Amazon is able to appeal to more Swedish vendors, dominating the market will still be an uphill battle. Amazon is also launching at a time when, thanks in part to coronavirus, Swedish online retailers are enjoying extraordinary growth.
“Amazon is quite well-known for having bad working conditions, as well as, frankly, union-busting, and that’s just not how we do it in Sweden,” asserts John Linde, the political coordinator handling Amazon’s launch. ….
But if it wants to operate its own warehouses, probably essential if it wants to expand, it may have to accept a unionised workforce, something it has so far refused to do in Germany, the UK or the US.
Ahh Amazon now operating in Sweden, but not as easy as they thought it would be.
Great article
I’ve been studying The Great Reset as I think it’s the biggest issue of our times, of which cv is just the tip of the iceberg. But I don’t understand why the only public critics of it come from a right-wing perspective. Below the videos and articles it’s common to find a preponderance of pro Trump comments, so although I really want to spread the word, I end up not sending the links to friends who would find this abhorrent. Let me say this now: I found Trump utterly abhorrent too, though I can see that his anti-global and anti-coronaphobic stance proved a helpful temporary barrier against the Davos agenda.
I voted Remain because my main area of concern is the environment and a lot of EU money went into cleaning up the beaches all around Britain and funding wildlife conservation, especially here in Wales where I live. I didn’t feel I could trust a UK government of any political persuasion to give a flying fig about nature.
Like so many people worldwide, I’m horrified and feel desperate about species extinction throughout the planet, so welcomed Greta Thunberg and XR. I was surprised to find in these pages that Greta is considered a “bad guy” and XR a corrupt organisation. Can someone please explain that to me?
Greta Thunberg and XR are consider by many – including me – to be globalist stalking horses of an agenda which wishes to use ‘climate change’ and covid in order to establish a centralized system of global control by an unaccountable elite of all resources. Twi things which may give you pause for thought are:
How did Greta get an appointment to speak at Davos and at the UN so easily?
Why are demos by XR treated with kid gloves, and even seemingly participated in by Police, while anti lockdown demos are brutally suppressed.?
I am completely on board btw with the idea that we need to protect the environment and biodiversity.
Thanks for your reply, Calchas. I can certainly see why the Davos cabal would want to use Greta, but that doesn’t mean she has been corrupted.
I have also been aware that the police turn a blind eye when it comes to XR demos but that doesn’t make them complicit in the evil agenda, does it? I have a lot of sincere friends involved in it.
As we have seen with how BLM and XR demos are policed compared with anti lockdown ones.
We can see who furthers the government agenda.It seems the government is even more radical than XR whos idealism is being used to usher in a nightmare future.
I spend a lot of my time in France and can tell you.. the Gilet Jaune (yellow jacket) movement sussed ER in no time. They were getting beaten to a pulp by the riot police, while XR were given a free ride. Authority is terrified of genuine grass roots movements. Sadly, for the moment at least, the violence against the Gilet Jaune’s has taken its toll, but if pushed too far could well rise again..
What’s the evidence that XR is not a grass-roots movement then? Again, like Greta, they may be being used for the technocrats’ agenda but they seem very sincere to me.
All of us as human beings are negatively impacted, to put it mildly, by the covid measures.
When you try and persuade friends or acquaintances of the importance of that message, then it is important to finf that angle of the impact, which has most resonance for them.
That will be dufferent dir different individuals and different groups,
Good articles on this topic can be found on the web site The Wrong Kind Of Green. Cory Morningstar
http://www.wrongkindofgreen.org
Heres one about Manufacturing Greta
http://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2019/02/13/the-manufacturing-of-greta-thunberg-for-consent-the-new-green-deal-is-the-trojan-horse-for-the-financialization-of-nature/
Winter oak Climate Capitalists
https://winteroak.org.uk/climate-capitalists/
Carbon economy is double resource exploitation. Make money from the resource then double down and make money from its emissions.. simple as that. Always the usual suspects benefit.. not the environment its a scam like covid.
There are always genuine people who join movements with good intentions. I’ve no doubt ER have thousands in that category. Unfortunately those self same people become ‘useful idiots’ when the organisation is infiltrated, steered, in a particular direction.
Have a read of this by one of the founders of ER – Stuart Basden. This guys running another agenda and admits it..
Forgot the link to above post..
https://medium.com/extinction-rebellion/extinction-rebellion-isnt-about-the-climate-42a0a73d9d49
I’d suggest everyone reads up on “Wrong Kind of Green” by Cory Morningstar, an independent Canadian journalist who has done a great job dissecting the “Manufacturing of Greta Thunberg”
Link is here: http://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2019/02/24/the-manufacturing-of-greta-thunberg-a-decade-of-social-manipulation-for-the-corporate-capture-of-nature-crescendo/
This gives you a glimpse of just how manufactured all of this is. But most people can’t see it..because it would be to painful to face it hence they stay in denial.
We face monumental challenges and for many it feels too big to even begin to fathom the abyss we are facing. But denial won’t help. Calchas nailed it – you don’t go to Davos unless the people want you there for reasons of their own.
And in case you didn’t notice – GT never had a solution for anything. Only anger. That never gets you anywhere, it’s only the first step and keeps you trapped. She was there to whip the younger generation down the rabbit hole of Agenda 2030 where the 1% Overlords get to keep their 99% share of everything.
Thanks for the great link. Bookmarked!
Ha ha.. I was looking for that link in my bookmarks but couldn’t find it. Glad you posted it. Take a look a the link I just posted above re Stuart Basden of ER..
https://medium.com/extinction-rebellion/extinction-rebellion-isnt-about-the-climate-42a0a73d9d49
Exactly – this a very good marker. BLM, XR and pro Sharia demos are pretty much left to do as the please. Similarly in the USA Antifa are given free rein to intimidate and assault Trump supporters.
Greta isn’t necessarily corrupted. Perhaps she is merely being used. If I wish to use somebody for my own agenda, then nobody is better than an idealistic young person, who completely believes what she is saying, but doesn’t realize what I want.
In fact I want that person to uncorrupted – it makes the message that they have to deliver more powerful.
That’s what I sensed, but some people on here really vilify her.
No not vilifying her. I feel for her actually. Thrown into the spotlight, used and abused by bigger agendas, then removed from the spotlight… anyone heard from her this year? Her parents belong in jail for allowing their child to be paraded around and used like this, especially as someone with Asperger. Highly suspect parenting decision to not enforce stability and times away from the spotlight – though then again her parents were never anywhere to be seen – only her “handler” pops up on many pictures… She has no idea what’s being done through her.
I agree re Greta, but the parents are another kettle of fish entirely. The whole Greta on school strike thing was a professional set up, with well funded back up team. Enter Mr Soros and his wallet..
OK…starting to make sense now…
Then totally promoted at our expense by the BBC – non stop positive coverage. The BBC is supposed to be impartial but they back Greta and the death cult XR – a cult which made tge absurd claim humanity woukd be dead in five years (now four I think).
Because, as you’ve surmised, she’s the product of an elite machine:
https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/the-elite-machine-behind-greta-thunberg/
Thanks – an interesting read. Mentioning she is being used as a ‘pawn’ strikes as correct.
I find it disturbing how an autistic girl has been used to front XR . To criticise her is unavoidable though. Why has she not been more vocal in her criticism of China who are far more culpable where man made global warming is concerned than the West? The problem with Greta and XR is their lack of faith in human ingenuity which will one day find the solution to environmental problems without devastating western economies…. although same economies will first have to recover from Covid collateral damage
And to Gove.
(Meant to reply to Melangell!)
I think this may vindicate a lot of the concerns expressed by the other commenters here:
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/sep/28/professor-floats-idea-climate-lockdown-bans-red-me/
Because she wants radical change, imposed by force. Conservatives inherently resist that. Even if we sympathise with the overall attitude of caring for nature (as many conservatives do) we’d rather proceed more cautiously and by persuasion than by government imposed force. We also tend to be patriotic and/or recognise that bigger governments are inherently more dangerous, and dislike internationalism as a result.
Perhaps, with regard to the Davos agenda, you might look a little more closely at the technocratic implications of that agenda, which would have the effect of separating us ever more from nature of which we are a part, and to which we belong.
Can there be anything less natural than forcing us to breathe through masks, to stay six feet apart and spend our lives behind screens..
At the level of their leadership, Extinction Rebellion is a Marxist death cult that is funded and controlled by the same forces that want to impose the Great Reset. At the lower levels its supporters may of course be well-intentioned, but they are being used.
The Green movement as a whole has been co-opted for decades. Genuine, old-school environmentalists like David Bellamy have been gradually replaced by a zealous anti-human message that has little or nothing to do with the welfare of the planet.
A classic example of this is the total silence from the likes of XR/Thunberg about the billions of masks containing toxic microplastics that are now being dumped into the environment every day all over the world. This speaks volumes for where their priorities lie.
Climate change is the vehicle the elites had chosen to enslave the world until the Covid crisis came along.This is being used to usher in our Zero carbon future despite it being far from proved that the world is heating up or Carbon is even a factor in this.
XR is a controlled opposition group which last year tried to make it seem as though we are in a climate emergency and only radical action can change out fate.
To be worried about despoiling nature or species extinction is a totally different thing than believing in man made climate change and is laudable.
Globalist climate radicalism is inherently leftist (because it’s radical and it’s internationalist), and most resistance is from the right, as you have discovered, but that was also originally true of coronapanicking. But in the latter case more and more leftwing resistance has emerged over time, here and in other places.
Is there really no mainstream left resistance to the totalitarian nature of eg XR?
You sound like an ‘old fashioned’ environmentalist. Want to protect nature, wildlife and various species under threat. You probably won’t find many ( any?) disagreeing.
However ‘Greta/XR’ are not interested in these things. They are campaigning to use the terrible threat of a tasteless, odourless, trace gas in the atmosphere , and in particular an invisible ‘variant’ of this gas which is ‘man-made’ which contains magical properties that can burn us all up. Of course we all know this in turn is but a part of the warming ( pun intended) process of the ‘great reset’. As the UN/WEF etc freely admit its nothing to do with climate, its about changing the economic structure of the ‘advanced’ world ( except China of course).
Very similar to how covid is being used in fact.
Well I am in a minority here in not believing that covid was planned to usher in “the great reset” of globalist Klaus Schwab. I do, however think that he is taking advantage of the chaos to promote his agenda.
With regard to Greta Thunberg. She was a sixteen year old child when she came to public attention. I think it is patently clear that she was chosen by the XR movement because it was believed that she would appeal to members of the public and to governments. (They seem to have been right about that.) However, I have always believed that she has been exploited. She is too young to really grasp the full implications of what she is involved with. I do not support her or the movement she is involved with. She is being used.
I am “green” to the extent that I do not support the deforestation of rainforest and species extinction caused by the over-exploitation of natural resources. Nor do I like to see plastic waste in the oceans and I support moves to clean it up.
However, that has nothing to do with the XR agenda which is “man-made” climate change. I have never believed their claims about this and bitterly resent them and their publicity stunts.
Quite agree; for many many years I’ve watched in dismay as species extinction has gathered pace, along with the despoliation of so much of nature and for many years I voted for the Greens.
In the early years much of what they promoted seemed entirely sensible and worthwhile.
However, when the pc nonsense and awokened Greens took over, I abandoned them
ER are a bunch of posturing self righteous nutters and the adulation given to Greta Thunberg is inappropriate
The EU could care less about the environment. Go to the pan handle of Cyprus. I went there 25 years ago and it was called the last wilderness of the Mediterranean, there are many turtle nesting beaches along the panhandle. Now thanks to the EU they (by which I mean our money) has been used to build roads all over Northern Cyprus and the panhandle is dotted with mariners for Russian oligarchs to moor their super yachts. Now marine biology students have to shine high powered lamps into the sea to encourage turtle hatchlings out to sea, rather than get attracted to the mariners. The EU and the environment, my arse.
Hello Melangell
Many thanks for the post. It’s just great that lockdown scepticism is such a broad church.
For me, the reason that XR and Greta are big trouble is that they are trying (and succeeding) to bypass the democratic process. Like all revolutionaries throughout history, they have decided that the ends (defined solely by them), justify the means.
There is a clear parallel here in my view with what is being enforced on us to ‘stop the virus’ as the ends of lockdowns etc also don’t justify the measures taken.
I became sceptical of the whole climate change debate a few years. I just got fed up with the BBC and alike telling me that I could only hear/believe one side of the debate. It turns out that the BBC actually made an editorial decision some time ago that they would only present one side of the debate. (They have also made the same editorial decision about vaccines.)
Through some digging, I found lots of super bright and respectable people suggesting that the whole ‘we must reduce CO2 at ANY cost or we’re all going die’ message was not supported by everyone or the facts.
If you’re interested, here are some books/sites that have helped me:
The Real Global Warming Disaster: Is the obsession with ‘climate change’ turning out to be the most costly scientific blunder in history? By Christopher Booker
Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us By Michael Shellenberger (a full on leftie who advised Obama)
Shellenberger has a free article here too https://tallbloke.files.wordpress.com/2020/06/schellenberger-apology.pdf
Green Tyranny: Exposing the Totalitarian Roots of the Climate Industrial Complex By Rupert Darwall
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/10/28/climate-change-the-facts/#comment-147544
2019 Annual GWPF Lecture – Prof Michael Kelly – Energy Utopias and Engineering Reality. A very good lecture showing that even if we buy into the need to change how we produce energy, it simply won’t work.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehjysg8WkBQ&t=1830s
I got sick of my kids primary school teaching it like it was gospel – that was what started me off telling them to question EVERYTHING. They have been hearing me say this since they were 7 years old. Do you think it might have sunk in yet? Poor things having me for a mum.
The EU money you refer to is actually ours, being allocated/returned to us by the Commission for environmental spending (amongst other things). At the end of each year EU accounts show that year after year we are a net contributor to the EU’s budget, which means that outside the EU we could actually increase our environmental spending from the surplus which we no longer have to leave with Brussels.
interesting interview with Sandi Adams on this link – she used to be a member of the green party but switched opinion – i find her a good orator explaining her opinion, worth a listen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0OIYKkZIgc
Just been browsing this thread.
To be clear – I think that there’s a lot to be debated around various attitudes to climate change and, on the other hand, the WEF/WHO/Big Pharma role in the current scam.
But this thread is truly a gift to 77th Brigade et al. If I was orchestrating a trolling campaign – this is precisely what I’d be encouraging.
Stick to the f.ing knitting!
Although I’m all up for efficient use of scarce resources, and conserving things rather than killing them off (at home and anywhere else) – I have never been on board with man-made climate change.
I tend never to be on the side of anyone spouting hysteria of any kind, as there is always an agenda to be found – just too cynical to believe anything if someone tells me I must believe it or we’ll all die, I think.
Naomi Siebt seems to have a much more rational head on her shoulders than the Swedish doom goblin (I can’t take credit for that one – it was Rod Liddle I heard it from).
The earth’s climate has ever changed – for all the time before we got here and it will do long after we are gone (pretty soon now!).
Any effect the human race makes is marginal – arrogant to consider otherwise really.
That is my opinion – other opinions can be found – all are fine with me, as long as I can keep mine (until I’m not allowed one any more)
Michael Bernicia has just issued an update on the private prosecution of Hancock:
It is now crystal clear that Hancock, Gove, Johnson, Whitty, Vallance and SAGE are not going to change direction, will not listen to alternative views and are impervious to criticism and ridicule. They are too far invested into their version of the Schlieffen Plan and cannot/will not admit they are wrong.
All of us here and sceptical journalists newspapers and scientists are wasting our time trying to convince these people to change course.
The only relevant question now is how can we can get Johnson, Hancock, Whitty and Vallance out of office. This is the only way this madness will end.
It will take private prosecutions and civil disobedience to stop it, nothing else now.
Indeed, we are at war, and we have almost lost.
The only route to that in any reasonable time frame is the no confidence letters to the 1922 Committee. The Covid Recovery Group has a more than enough members to trigger a leadership contest. The problem with this route is even if it proved successful and removed Boris Johnson, it is unfortunately likely that he would be replaced by another lockdownista.
I contacted them all, didn’t get a single reply.
I wouldn’t read too much into that as Talk Radio were complaining that they couldn’t get any reply from them either, which rather suggests to me they are
plottingplanning.I think a change at the top is necessary. When people have gone too far down the rabbit hole they cant change tack. They need removing.
Yes – and society needs motherhood and sliced bread.
Next?
Sorry – you saw how flaky they were when bought off in the ‘renewal’ debate. We have a parliament of moral midgets.
Remove Johnson and there is a chance. Only the 1922 lot can /would do this. That would require polling to show very poor chances of reelection etc. Or a complete shambles at TransEnd with economic problems. Unfortunately CV covers transend and vice-versa; and there are so many idiots out there thinking he is on the right path.
I don’t think anything will happen for a while. The figures will come down, lockdown will end and a new tier system enforced – people will wonder what for.
If Hancock et al have their way the new Tier system will be just another variation of the lockdown. At yesterday’s press briefing, they made it plain that Tiers 1 & 2 of the present system are not draconian enough, and this morning Jenrick was clear that Tier 3 was just a baseline and had to be supplemented by more measures.
We need to persuade the public, not the politicians. The politicians are irrelevant if you have the public. Not an easy task with such a huge propaganda machine against us, but we’re slowly chipping away. It often takes just one thing to change the public mood
The problem is this is a global situation, not just national. And even if we did get rid of the current Politburo, who would take over? They would either be worse (Starmer etc) or would never be tolerated by the elites (Farage/Fox etc).
It needs a major power to cease what they are doing and change course. That’s the only way it’s going to change. All western countries are content to take cover in each others shadows.
The madness ends when the catastrophes have occurred.
The hyperinflation, debt defaults, repossessions, the depression with mass unemployment, the responses to Covid 20/21 which we really can’t afford anymore and/or the vaccine related damages start to occur and become huge.
If the latter happens, the sheep will likely come for their leaders and lynch them- I am not at all in favour of that, but knowing human nature, I would fully expect that then.
Thinking about air travel and PCR tests. Is there any logic at all for the following;
1) Need for a negative PCR test taken 72 hrs before flight. So you wait in a lab or test centre with others who presumably think they have symptoms to get a test. You get a negative and fly to your destination. Two days later you feel unwell and are positive because you have caught it from one of the people in the test centre. If you had not been forced to take test, you would have arrived sans disease.
2) Everyone on the flight is ‘negative’ otherwise they wouldn’t be there. The face mask is still required for the flight, because?
Very good points and one I keep raising within the industry. Most Fit to Travel tests are private home tests though as you are not meant to use NHS. Nothing to stop picking it up anywhere between the test and travelling either way though.
Very valid point on the masks and furthermore, IATA published figures of 44 known cases from 1.2BILL passengers so chance of 1 in 27,000,000.
https://www.airlineratings.com/news/new-research-uncovers-just-44-cases-flight-covid-19-transmission/
Tests on arrival and FP issues big worry as well. Would not be the way you want your holiday to go!
But you are allowed to take it off when sneezing or coughing, as long as you cover your face with the inside of your elbow. At least that was what they said on a flight I took back in August.
This comment has to be satire, surely.
Well, they didn’t actually say that you could take it off. They repeated this message over the PA system: “Use of a mask is mandatory throughout the whole flight, except when you are eating or drinking. Please cover your face with the inside of your elbow if you sneeze or cough”.
So I deduced that you were allowed to take it off in that case, unless they wanted you to both keep the mask on and use your elbow to further reduce contamination.
Who’d want to book a holiday on the hope you’re negative?
Mind you a friend of mine did, he got his negative result then booked flights and hotel, but most people don’t plan or work that way.
No logic to any of it
All theatre
I’ve been doing university work this afternoon, and the whole thing seems pointless. I gradually put something together but really can’t be bothered. Zoom University is a joke and I’ll probably be soon expelled for not having the “vaccine.” And I won’t last in the coming dystopia anyway.
I’m not the only one, a mate of mine is similarly resigned and just sort of bimbles through his work. He’s even more reclusive than I am and lives nearly entirely off greasey takeaways cause according to him, eating what you want is one of the last joys left in life. Maybe I too should induldge in a nice crap diet, it dosen’t matter anymore.
Plus anyone else just feel really tired all the time?
Treating oneself is a good idea.
Feel exactly the same. Should be in Tenerife today at a villa we’d got with friends. Can’t go for the obvious stupid reasons. Spent the afternoon trying to work but what’s the point? I can’t spend my money on anything other than bills, food and drink. There’s no incentive to improve.
It really has become an empty existence.
Tired? Not especially, I go for regular long walks in the countryside and I eat reasonably.
I don’t really see any wisdom in becoming a slob.
I am, however, extremely tired of this ever ongoing and totally pointless covid shitshow.
Just get out for a long walk, 5 to 10 miles. Preferably out in the woods or parks or countryside. Works wonders.
Tired due to not sleeping
But do try to eat well and get fresh air and exercise, and use the studying as a distraction
Don’t let them win
Montmorency cherry juice is brilliant for helping you sleep – and no resulting hangover or dopeyness.
NB it’s tart but fruity. A generous tablespoonful diluted and sipped like a big glass of wine and I sleep right through.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Optima-Montmorency-Cherry-Juice-Concentrate/dp/B00G6LSCES/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2HXD14FVZPF6A&dchild=1&keywords=cherry+concentrate&qid=1605631168&quartzVehicle=80-1026&replacementKeywords=concentrate&sprefix=cherry+concentrate%2Caps%2C191&sr=8-5
Don’t worry about the vaccine. They won’t get organised enough to give it to your age group for years!
I feel for you in your circumstances. Try and be kind you yourself and not put too much pressure on at the moment. Don’t make any major decisions for now.
Walking in the countryside is a good idea, especially hills if you have any near you.
Alternatively, a religion or philosophy could help to lift your perspective – Christianity or if you are too innoculated against that, stoicism, perhaps.
Crap diet will make you feel more tired. As will getting depressed. Despair is what will let them win.
While I accept that the social and political situation is mostly to blame, nutritional deficiency causes depression. So it might be worth checking you’re getting enough magnesium, D3, B12, zinc and the B vitamins. Suggest you eat plenty of eggs and meat and take some magnesium citrate – especially if you drink coffee and alcohol.
It’s been very dark recently. Do try to get outside under the sky for some therapeutic daylight as often as possible.
Try to find something uplifting to focus on. Watch good comedy films and tv series.
Discover Caimh McDonnel’s Bunny McGarry books. I recommend starting with the Dublin Trilogy:
https://www.bookseriesinorder.com/caimh-mcdonnell/
Don’t let the bastards grind you down as we used to say. This will end one way or another and there will be a future, even if not the one imagined. If you’re a young student the future will be yours to make, and to make sure that this crap never happens to anyone else here every again. If you give up you let them win, and none of us can allow that, so hang on in there!
You’ll get lots of advice.
But there’s no single route out – you have to find what works for you. So look at the suggestions and give what appeals and what is feasible a try.
I think the most deadly aspect of this shit-show is the way it drains motivation and builds depression; I think it’s the psy-ops that has been the most evil aspect of it all, and we should never forgive those who have been complicit in shaping this – the individuals involved are beneath contempt in taking the methods of Goebbels and Mengele as their models. Such spectres should have been banished long ago.
So – try not to succumb to their engineered imposition of learned helplessness. Find your own best diversion and keep kicking, hard tho’ it is.
I agree with those who recommend walking. I go once a week with an old friend who has been converted into a sceptic over the past couple of months. He is now working on his extended family.
Listen to men who know what they are talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kyUJn5FvEo
Ditch the test!
Hear hear!
Portugal appeal court deems pcr test unreliable.
Michael O’Bernicia
@TheBernician
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Chief Magistrate nominates judge in private prosecution against Matt Hancock
A link would be helpful please.
Probably won’t help, I think their servers are under some heavy attack…
Yes looks like a DDoS storm.
https://www.thebernician.net/private-criminal-prosecution-moves-to-final-pre-court-stage/?fbclid=IwAR2isD6x1v9YBi-XI6Aq-IdcJEFMtvAzqkT0aSeUs8UfxXaIwxx9vM2IKs0
Piers needs to get a grip. There are much more pressing issues than whether or not a politician was boycotting your show, Jesus.
More importantly, he has a huge platform and has relentlessly pushed the coronabollocks narrative with not a hint of nuance. He’s close to the top of the list of the guilty among the media
Only close? Who’s above him?
Good point – maybe whoever is pulling the strings at, Sky the BBC and The Guardian? Or those running other newspapers, who run with the hare and the hounds?
And his Mrs gets a free pass at The Telegraph – no comments allowed on her anti-vaxx slur on a working class taxi driver for whom she clearly has nothing but contempt as a middle-class metropolitan yummy mummy.
That was an absolutely vile article. As you say, no comments allowed, of course.
No, Piers himself doesn’t need to get a grip, but somebody close behind him needs to get a grip – around his throat – a very tight and terminal grip.
The argument that comes up time after time is the excess deaths argument. I know some of the facts like the 25000 that occurred at home from something else but does anyone have a clear, cogent argument I could use to counter this opinion as it seems to be the go to for lockdown zealots?
Excess deaths are what you should expect when you push tens of thousands of people out of hospital before time:
You do know that reason and evidence does not work on zealots?
cos science
no – cos THE science
I must admit to finding it mildly amusing when they assert the science says stuff, apparently blissfully unaware of the irony of using the logical fallacy of argument from authority, whilst considering themselves to be scientific.
The following graph (at twitter link) shows Germany daily all-cause deaths from 2018 in red and for 2020 in blue. A the bottom the dark line shows the official number of covid deaths.
The red line shows the flu wave at the beginning of 2018.
Deaths from heat waves in summer are visible on both lines.
What is not visible is the impact of covid in 2020, although there have officially been more than 12000 deaths attributed to it.
https://twitter.com/SHomburg/status/1327883042342506498
In summary, Germany has now had officially more than 800 000 cases of infection with SarsCov2, but this has had no discernible effect on total mortality.
Which excess deaths argument do you mean?
I usually point out that deaths are not that high, but then you have to go into the whole “is it because of lockdowns” debate as well.
It’s a rabbit hole and they generally just don’t want to believe they’ve been had.
Great name!
Thanks! I just love his songs!
and his eyebrow?
Loads of stuff in the Amnesty International report:
https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/EUR45/3152/2020/en/
We need the new parties to start turning the screws, the only way to get rid of the leaders of this ‘show’
I’m not sure how they can tackle the international banking cartel and not wind up dead tbh.
Boris tests negative https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/boris-johnson-tests-negative-for-coronavirus-after-rapid-test/ar-BB1b5M1Y?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds
This very thing is an admission that testing is utter bullshit! Anyone that has had a positive test but no symptoms surely must now question that “diagnosis”?
Mixed feelings. If genuinely positive this would be a disaster but if a false positive then a victory.
I’m relieved. I was concerned that he would return a false positive if the over sensitive PCR test detected old virus particles after he had it months ago. If he had tested positive it would have caused another rumpus over how long immunity lasts and we’d have been locked up forever.
Mixed blessings for old Boris then. On the one hand, his test came back negative, but on the other he’s still a monumental twat.
Small businesses here, not only face yet another 3 week hiatus, thanks to the Dear Leader, but now have the added headache of making endless phone calls to cancel booked appointments and offer alternatives.
So, once again, loss of income compounded by rearrangement of business diaries for the next 3 weeks.
This is criminally insane; there’s no other way to describe it.
Even our excellent library will now have to close again, just when services were gradually returning to normal.
We’re being turned into troglodytes.
Total nonsense. I did the maths and the fatality rate from the virus in Scotland is 0.09%. Most of them will have had underlying health conditions and / or very elderly too and many will have fallen foul of the SNP’s mishandling of care homes at the outset. Yes, every one was dear to their families but it makes absolutely no sense to destroy the livelihoods and education of the entire country to “save” such a small number.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54974373 21 million for acting as a go between to procure PPE for NHS staff, words fail me
Nothing surprises me any more from this useless shower of liars, cheats and charlatans masquerading as a government.
Some people are making a lot of money out of this.
6uild 6ack 6etter.
let`s not take their number.
Sturgeon states she command 11 areas to go into what she calls tier 4. The press report accordingly.
What she actually means is every measure she has commanded to date has failed on her own terms.
Regardless of the measures being unworkable, unneeded and unproven she employed them. They have failed. She has failed.
Press might like to report the failure of Sturgeon.
We are told that the WHO guidance up to the end of last year and for decades before that, once a disease is in a population lockdowns don’t work. So why are they persisting with this failed policy?
Because they haven’t got any better ideas.
Exactly. They have shot their one and only bolt. Weakness, stubborn stupidity, and cowardice. Plus the need to be seen to ‘do something’.
Albert Einstein’s famous line: “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”.
In today’s climate Einstein would be disregarded as fake news.
He’d be considered a “fringe” scientist like the signatories of The Great Barrington Declaration.
If our Government gave a flying fuck about the WHO they would have read John Ioannidis peer reviewed paper from last month and stopped what they are doing. Criminal.
Update on the arrest of Hancock. 17 Nov
“Private Criminal Prosecution Moves To Final Pre-Court Stage”
http://philosophers-stone.info/2020/11/17/private-criminal-prosecution-moves-to-final-pre-court-stage/
“After being bludgeoned with George Foreman’s sledgehammer fists for seven rounds, Ali knocked him out in the eighth round, when Foreman had exhausted himself and could hardly lift his arms, let alone defend himself.
“So following my seven rounds of absorbing all the punches and low blows from numerous opponents, here lies a redacted copy of the email we received last Friday, confirming that I wasn’t talking “nonsense”, “coo-coo” or “fantasy” and that the warrant application was due to be processed yesterday.
“Private Criminal Prosecution Moves To Final Pre-Court Stage
“COVID-1984 NEWSFLASH
Since beginning to write this post, we have received the following email from the Chief Magistrates office, regarding the private prosecution:”
….. Read on via link above.
Poor Dab, handy cock is the only one out their still talking bollocks
The pig dictator and Princess nut nuts are still allowing him to stomp about doing his village idiot impressions
Come on you two, it’s cruel, stop it
Enough is enough, can’t you make him Chief Constable of Avon and Somerset or something?
Thanks, that made me chuckle out loud!
NO!!!! I live there!!!!!
These two updates have cheered me up today. A really positive and optimistic warrior saying that we will win this war. Recommended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sVeGcaw36Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG3_cRd1znY
Juts watched the first one. Fantastic!! Don’t miss it.
“The cracks are appearing”
On to the second one now ….
Very well worth watching, thank you!
Great watch but it’s very hard to share the optimism.
That’s because you’re feeling down and I sympathise.
However, ultimately it’s a choice.
You can join him in seeing the cracks appearing and the truth coming out and be excited – misguidedly or otherwise.
Or you can mope around full of doom and gloom – which is guaranteed to just suck you further and further down.
I take more of a middle way. I got very depressed when it became clear back in September that the government was determined to keep this going, which meant there were ulterior motives at work. I now see it more as living under a hostile enemy power. I’m working quietly as best as I can to end the occupation, but for the present I dont’ hold out much hope because the mass of people are collaborators, and I’m not getting too excited about any developments. But I’m not losing hope.
Me and Mrs 2-6 just went out for a cycle. Even although it was fairly grey and dingy, it was nice to cycle through dank rotten mouldy smelling woodland, mud and puddles. It was also nice to interact with a few passer’s by and their dogs and we bumped into a couple of people we know. They were fairly brianwashed but still, perhaps less so now.
A couple of beers and some crisps were a bonus!
It’s not all bad.
Well it is really bad but y’know. It’s is possible to escape the lunacy. I feel better for getting out anyway.
Wish I could have come – glad you enjoyed it
It’s all we can do — make the best of a horrid situation and keep things as normal as possible. Get outside for fresh air and exercise and take control of our own health — they can’t take that away from us.
In the Piers Morgan interview, Hancock didn’t explain why the government kept the borders open during the “first wave”. I believe the answer to the question is quite simple: a substantial number of British passport holders who were abroad at that time wanted to be repatriated. Refusing these people re-entry would have upset the woke crowd – ironically the very same people who were demanding lockdown. Elsewhere, Hancock now plays up the danger of ‘long covid’ but doesn’t offer any substantive data to justify his concern. The switch of emphasis to ‘long covid’ might have something to do with the fact that fatalities appear to have levelled off (as shown by the government’s own dashboard) – something that was effectively achieved before the implementation of the second lockdown. The man is doing his best to ensure people remain fearful ahead of a vaccine rollout. As much as anything else, l suspect Hancock is now engaged in a face-saving exercise. The fact that this exercise is destroying millions of jobs and generally diminishing the quality of life appears to be of no concern to him or his cronies on SAGE.
If the deaths don’t materialise, they need something else to keep the panic going. Cases worked for a while but it’s lost its power to terrify as too many people are realising most of the cases aren’t actually ill people. So now it’s long covid.
They’re now reporting weekly death numbers, as it sounds scarier than daily totals.
Do you remember earlier in the year there was a brief crisis with young children being admitted to hospital with a new disorder linked to C-19? Can’t remember it’s name, but that seems to have died, but could be resurrected if needed to spread fear.
was it kawasaki disease?
Yes that’s right
That long covid is a bugger. Cristiano Ronaldo scored 2 goals not long after missing playing time because of a +ve test… similarly only a few weeks ago Dustin Johnson had a +ve test, he’s just gone and won the US Masters.
This really does sum this shit up and I’m not going to dwell on it but it sums up the mentality of people. I don’t give a fuck what wee Jimmie Mugabe decrees however.
Group chat about golf. I assume my usual 2 golf partners live in tier 4, golf course is in tier 3.. whatever I don’t care.
Message
P1 – W Lothian in tier 4 so can’t play at usual course.
Me – who sais
P1 – new rules from 6pm Friday
Me – ignore!
P1 – Nope. That’s why it’s getting worse. People ignoring.
P2 – that’s ok we are still allowed informal exercise.
To recap they are happy to play together in tier 4 but not mix with me in tier 3 even though we have been playing together near enough every week for the past 6 months.
Fucking cowardly cretins.
Then again maybe they just don’t like me
“that’s ok we are still allowed informal exercise.” – how fucking generous of them. player 2 has been thrown a right bone there. Stockholm syndrome.
You should record them and play it back so you can point out how fucking stupid they sound!
Has anyone seen a masked-up Nativity scene yet?
I’m sure it’s only a matter of time, but that really would be the end of anything approaching a remotely ‘normal’ about this coming Christmas.
On our village Facebook page a woman is selling homemade ceramic angels…masked or unmasked. The depressing thing is that some people seemed delighted by the masked angels…very sad.
jeez! that is sick
I agree totally.
I’d buy one with a mask, then smash it in front of her
they’ll be collectors items one day!
In lunatic asylums, maybe.
Thanks everyone, so it seems we’re still awaiting our first masked Nativity, then we’ll really know it’s Christmas – not.
What with masked pumpkins and ceramic angels, the omens are not looking good for avoiding the obvious.
But woe betide anyone who buys me anything mask-like, with a mask on it, or even a novelty mask, as it will end as an Andrex product in no short order!
I’m fully expecting novelty Xmas masks, and masks on snowmen, reindeers etc. The Chinese factory owners who make this tat must be on their knees thanking Confucious for their good fortune.
I wear a mask on Zoom now. Better than turning the video off.
Someone sent me a short clip of a masked Father Christmas fist-bumping kids behind a plexiglass screen yesterday if that counts.
I saw a masked pumpkin at Halloween.
Given that the western world has become convinced that Jesus was Caucasian, based on the standard representation of him, give it enough time and Mary and Joseph wore masks in the stable, as did the three wise men.
Just spoken to my friend who is a support worker. one place where she looks after adults with learning difficulties, they have not left the grounds since March. They are not even allowed to go out for a walk with a carer, as they could catch “covid” walking along the street to the park!
And this is in an area with very low numbers all year.
http://www.theartofannihilation.com/mandatory-masks-in-the-age-of-climate-emergency-planetary-biodiversity-crisis/
Just discovered this; lengthy but well worth reading.
Earlier today a fellow poster recommended the Trigonometry Podcast interview with Professor Bhakdi. Worth an hour of anyone’s time. Really compelling and disturbing.
I didn’t find anything too surprising. But he articulates it very well and his manner is a joy to listen to.
The lawyer Reimer Fullich or whatever his name is that Rosie has been positing us the best interview I’ve heard recently. His hunch that the whole thing is an intentional fraud with at least three players out in the open is fantastic to listen to.
Interesting times ahead with his case I feel.
Unfortunately for Johnson, Hancock and the two stooges the “Covid-19” deaths are not very obliging and not heading for 1.000 or 4,000 a day. In fact they now appear to have peaked and are heading downwards.
They’ll claim it was because of the lockdown…
Of course. It shows lockdowns work, and so need to be kept in place indefinitely, or the Covids will come back. Lockdown then becomes like some sort of Old Testament blood sacrifice.
I’m sure they will but looks like the deaths peaked on 8th November so lockdown must be powerful medicine to work in 3 days!!
DM claiming quite the opposite, as will Govt. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8957037/Coronavirus-deaths-continue-rise-England-Wales-ONS-data-show.html
DM are the worst though, they sometimes literally have 2 stories next to each other that contradict the other one
Presumably some model can be trotted out to tell us that in fact deaths have now reached the requisite 4,000, they’re just not all being recorded.
If you look at the 7 day average of English hospital deaths and build in an allowance for deaths that have occurred but not been reported based on previous days and the current growth rate, you get this interesting graph which makes the trend even clearer.
It looks like it is going to flatten off in the next 2 weeks, which would be consistent with data coming out of Zoe, ONS Infection Survey and React, taking into account the lag between being covid+ and death of 23 days ish.
Never fails to impress me how smooth the curve is for the April wave and the current seasonal uptick, seems to be unaffected by all the changes in restrictions.
See above : the autumn deaths are largely from other causes with coincidental PCR SARS presence.
I’ve noticed in the Northern Ireland numbers that the recent uptick in Autumn covid deaths is almost mirrored exactly by other deaths listed as ‘respiratory’. No indication of double counting I think so I wonder if its just respiratory PCR + for the most rather than dying due to Covid?
Again, tho’ we have the question of the validity of ‘Covid-19’ deaths. That hump is largely caused by PCR ‘cases’, I would guess – and actually represents deaths by a variety of other causes.
Yes indeed – haven’t flu deaths magically disappeared?
Need to check deaths for this time of year, adjusted for population, and compare to some reasonable baselines (average for last 5 years, peaks in the last few decades) to give a truer picture of the actual impact, if any, of covid on mortality
Agreed. All-cause mortality will kind of tell the tale, except that now younger people are dying at home and from lack of care due to Covid measures so even all-cause mortality may give us the entire picture. Today in one of our national rags there was a story about how flu has disappeared, to which all the commenters responded that it’s clearly because of all the mask wearing, hand sanitizing and distancing which we should keep up forever. Of course they’re too stupid to realize that these same measures *should* result in no Covid as well if they actually work. Never occurred to them that anything like the flu or a respiratory illness is now being labelled Covid.
True, but the point is that even if you play the game by their rules and look at deaths labelled as covid (rather than being deaths FROM covid), those labelled deaths still appear to be levelling off, negating all their predictions.
That’s good to know – although my guess is they will try every trick in the book to keep the fear going, including some sort of reclassification of deaths from Covid to ‘Covid*’ or something, where the * refers to ‘deaths from Covid 19 or any other respiratory disease’, or some such. If they can pull this off, then they can justify masks, lockdowns etc forever.
That is what Ivor Cummins was saying, this is the expected seasonal trajectory for corona viruses in general. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Z2rfsUbBs
COVID-19: Police to stop issuing £10,000 ‘super fines’ over concerns they can be challenged in court
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-police-to-stop-issuing-10-000-super-fines-over-concerns-they-can-be-challenged-in-court-12134839
There have been lawyers recommending ignoring a FPN and asking to be taken to court instead.
Yes – I reckon it makes good sense. Ideally, there needs to be a concerted legal campaign backed by those knowledgeable in the field who can help to create a template for challenge.
Was discussing this with someone yesterday, how a traffic fine for speeding, for example, is far, far less than this, yet your actions are probably far more likely to kill someone. How anyone can possibly think 10k is proportionate for not wearing a mask or visiting a friend is beyond me.
I thought the 10K was just for event organisers. I was of the view it was like £200 for not wearing a mask?
Repeat offenders
Not sure, but I thought not wearing masks went up in steps from £1000 onwards?
maybe your right it’s all smoke and mirrors. Who actually knows these days.
Like an accumulator – then 5 years imprisonment, then life imprisonment, then life imprisonment with whole life tariff, then the death penalty
That not what the regulalions says they can do. Chip shop with a dead mouse on the floor- straight to summons???? So regs, the regs state the phases and proportionality. This does not align with that at all.
I just searched the regulations for the word summon and guess what, its not there, its in the general health regulations but only as the final course of action if fines are not paid. Ditto the word arrest it doesnt appear either. Makes no difference to Plod, they just make it up as they go a long and with this government, there is zero scrutiny
Which is why we need to know our rights and the law better than they do – some people are really showing them up for what they are.
The concern is over the fact a fine will be means tested in Court, so will often be lower. (And therefore “unfair”). Rather than any dispute over the fact there shouldn’t be fines in the first place.
Today’s suggested stocking filler…
“Where’s Wally – 2020 Edition”
(AMERICANS: You may know this as “Where’s Waldo” because someone decided “Wally” is an offensive word in your lands. A bit like “crap”)
Found him!
15 seconds after this image was captured the pigs showed up and kicked the shit out of him for not wearing a mask.
I’ve been thinking that the famous photograph of August Landmesser standing out against the Hitler-saluting crowd might make a good card, entitled :
“Where’s not Wally?”
Hmm, time to reconsider the US election one feels (sorry Beeb!).
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-vote-switching-ghost-in-the-machine/
But if the other guy’s so much better at rigging elections doesn’t he deserve to win? All this reminds me of people who whinge when Lance Armstrong beats them in a bike race.
Like Chavez and Maduro in Venezuela? Because they cheated using the same corrupt voting software they deserved to win??
You think Biden even knows anything about this (even if he did a couple of days ago)!?
If their is a great cabal pulling the strings they must be be having a right laugh at all us obedient puppets.
Had a chat with a near neighbour this afternoon whilst she was out doing some gardening. ‘Been out on your bike recently?’ I said, knowing she was keeping herself fit during these weird times. ‘I’m usually out most days but today I went for a walk with my friend who, after seven months virtual isolation, summoned up the courage for a walk.’ ‘How did that go?’ I replied. ‘Not too good, she could hardly put one foot in front of the other and was exhausted after just a few yards.’
So there you go…. yet another downside to lock downs and being scared stiff of catching a bad cold or flu, is the loss of your limbs and probably a degeneration of your heart muscles. But still, if it saves me from ‘the virus’ that’s all that counts…isn’t it?
Good point, Harry. Another example of the (less obvious) health harms of the San Quentin regime. I am aware of the erosion of my fitness in all this.
I’ve never been fitter. The only break I find from all of this is a nightly run. To be fair though, even during that I listen to the Richie Allen Show.
I know somebody who’s mum is like that, terrified to go out since March, then in September went for a short walk and literally couldn’t manage more than a few hundred yards before she was exhausted.
Yer stay in, stay safe, save the NHS
Bastards
Only themselves to blame I’m afraid. One is responsible for one’s own health. Nobody else is.
She brought it on herself.
Sorry, but she did.
She was pretty active until she was scared stupid into staying all the time. Sadly.
‘She could hardly put one foot in front of the other and was exhausted after just a few yards.’
Funnily enough this is exactly how some people are describing Long Covid. I think it’s actually Long Lockdown.
And the govt actually advised vulnerable people to do this to themselves. They weren’t even supposed to have their windows open during the first lockdown.
Denmark for the win!!!
I can only hope that enough of my fellow Canadians would do the same and protest for consecutive days if our scummy politicians hatch a mandatory vaccine law.
I’m certain you all in the UK would do the same as well.
To put it bluntly…F this s**t!!
Woooo! Go on Denmark! It’s time to get revolting!
‘I’m certain you all in the UK would do the same as well.’
Then you’d be dead wrong, that ship has sailed.
The masked, lockdown zealots will welcome their new vaccine overlords and burn the unbelievers.
Eddie, we actually have pretty strict laws protecting us from mandatory vaccination in Canada. Must have informed consent. Having said that, most of us here know it’s not likely Western governments will literally hold us down and vaccinate us, but they will make life difficult for those who don’t comply. I know that form of coercion will be challenged, but I can’t say whether or not our courts are corrupt or captured by the government narrative. In Ontario we have very solid precedent which is interesting from the standpoint of both mandatory vaccination and masking. The nurses association fought the hospitals when they tried to mandate flu vaccines, which of course could not be forced. However, the hospitals then tried to mandate mandatory masking of all nurses who refused the flu vaccine. It went to the Ontario Supreme Court and was shot down. The plethora of evidence against masks preventing virus transmission was critical to the case. If Rocco Galati’s Statement of Claim ever gets heard this case will come up for sure. Rocco is the constitutional lawyer who is suing all levels of government over the emergency measures, including masking.
Hi Lisa! I love Rocco and donated to the cause a couple months ago. I have zero trust for the Feds in Ottawa of course, so I suspect they’ll hatch some sort of “no vaccine, no more freedom” kind of thing. Bring it on Justin, you twerp!!
Lunch break now, c’ya Lisa
I am so angry at Sturgeon; we knew it was inevitable that she would go for a me too lockdown but it does not make the anger any less. Further damage to people’s mental health, to their physical health, destruction of livelihoods, taking away all hope for the future and in particular destroying the prospects of our younger people. She is an evil, callous witch devoid of all human emotion.
Yip. All for a fatality rate of 0.09%. Utter shite.
Looking to the bigger picture, the hardly tested highly experimental and liability free vaccines are almost here, so things can only get worse.
She literally is evil, I’m surprised she gets away with it.
This was inevitable from the moment that Boris announced that Westminster would pick up the tab for future ‘lockdowns’. Kim-Jong Nik was never going to pass up the opportunity to grandstand at someone else’s expense. Thanks for nothing, Bojo.
All the politicians seem keen to jump on the CV19 lockdown bandwagon.
After all, Biden and his sidekicks are talking about a nationwide lockdown until third quarter 2021…Fauci wants masks worn permanently.
Sadly, something tells me Scott Atlas won’t figure on the Biden Covid task force…
Possibly radicalised, easy to do apparently, and she does look crazy in the DM photo, mad eyes
thoroughly depressing 10 minutes listening to an interview with Neil Ferguson on R4 PM contributing to the mood music surrounding keeping lockdown in place for Christmas.
Sounds like classic expectation management so they get all the more adulation from “Saving Christmas”. Or so they think.
yep, we will have another couple of weeks of will they/won’t they open the hospitality sector for Christmas.
On a brighter note went to Tescos. Plenty of toilet rolls but no Vitamin D and associated stuff like omega 3.
Order vit d3 and k2 off eBay. Better value and higher doses compared to high street stores, and also supports independent UK business.
It’s your own fault. Wasting time listening to the Beeb when we already know that Ferguson’s Imperial College was bought out by Bill Gates years ago. Only the other corrupt Gates assets, like the UK government and BBC, could even pretend to take wanker Ferguson seriously.
you’re right. It got worse. They have a feature called Covid Chronicles where people describe their experiences during lockdown. They are very wistful and sentimental and totally devoid of any criticism of the lockdown. Tonight’s episode featured the improbable story of an unemployed woman buying a houseboat on the Thames. What sticks in the throat is these episodes are going to be given to the British Museum as some of social record.
The emotional black mail is off the scale. There is a TV add doing the rounds here in Northern Ireland with a crying daughter who lost her mum to Covid. She’s in her 30s perhaps. Full on, please wear a mask, and so forth.
MSM is basically a new Germany Calling, with Piss Morgan as Lord Haw-Haw.
When people present these stories ask them about the missed cancers, heart attacks, suicides and mental anguish occurring to save a tiny proportion of people that get Covid badly. It’s like a car crash victim exhorting people not to drive.
You and I can spot propaganda from 5 miles away – do people actually not see it for what it is? Or are they just not taking any notice?
They love a good sob story.
Isn’t it dreadful??!!
Jesus wept. Just wait for the vaccine death toll yarns waiting to be told in years to come…
You actually listen to this stuff?!
Hence why he keeps getting free mics.
It’s always wise to keep an eye and ear open to what your enemy is up to.
Of course. The BBC keep trotting out that charlatan to push the same destructive narrative, when he should have been arrested and jailed for destroying the country using fake data.
Why listen to that poisonous little worm?
If somebody put Pantsdown into permanent hibernation it would be a giant leap towards freedom for Britkind.
if you want to raise your blood pressure he had a few things to say about Sweden. You can guess what
How is Turduson still advising? He ignored his own advice in Incarceration 1.0 and was caught shagging a married woman (who must have shit in her eyes) and ‘resigned’ his position. Why is he still bleating on? Fucking oxygen thief.
So Prof. Doom is all over the media, despite lying with his models, breaking lockdown twice & sleeping with another man’s wife. Telling non sick people they must behave, even though he is a mathematical modeller and not a doctor.
And he’s got a platform how ? How has no one called him out ? How are the BBC allowed to allow him airtime.
he wasn’t challenged about his vague assertions about extending the lockdown and he had enough time to make a few remarks about Sweden.
It’s funny he never turns up on LBC
Does anyone else think that given the current state of policing, that someone like Mike Yeadon might be picked up soon, for a good grilling after perhaps a tweet. I can see this coming when we look at that young girl arrested and being charged with what seems like terror offences in Devon, that was unbelievable, the police were crazed brainwashed idiots.
He’s in France
And the French police are better? Although I don’t know if he has the same public profile in France
Do they still have a Resistance?
He was on TalkRADIO today, but the afternoon rather than the Breakfast show, Ian Collins is less sceptical than JHB.
I would not put anything past the Police, Government or MSM.
Yeadon was good and explained things in a very simple way to understand . He is getting the message out so well that Richard Tice is questioning the liverpool P C R tests on twitter .
Not listening to TR now – they’ve gone soft. Ian Collins always was – think he might be a bit daft.
He few weeks ago he seemed to be almost suggesting there was a conspiracy at least to mislead the public. He seems to have stepped back from that now, so maybe he’s been leaned on either by Talk Radio or someone else.
So angry that we jumped into the car and drove to a different council area and did some shopping, maskless of course. On a positive note there were a few other maskless shoppers and I wasn’t challenged by the security guard that I walked by. Interestingly several others wore their masks below their noses. Wake up Scotland – rise up against the evil that is in our midst.
Rogues in a nation?
This is a rehash of the old 80’s game “Build a Better Burger”.
It’s a 2020 edition called “Build-a-burger better”…
Bilderburger Back Better?
Shhhh!!
Kendrick:
Stamping on the ‘anti-vaxxers’ – a very stupid idea
https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/11/17/stamping-on-the-anti-vaxxers-a-very-stupid-idea/#comments
Thanks. It’s a great read, as is most of Malcolm Kendrick’s writing.
From my earliest days in medicine, I have struggled against the prevailing model of health care. My opposition in part was provoked by the growing prevalence of overtreatment. Resorting to excessive interventions seemed to be the illegitimate child of technology in the age of market medicine.’
I love this quote.
Every single one of us should be writing evidence to the House of Lords committee NOW! Deadline Wednesday night. Go, go, go!
https://committees.parliament.uk/call-for-evidence/258/constitutional-implications-of-covid19/?fbclid=IwAR1KieLPIqDcOt4W89bRCnrPWwm_IDXAaZc-6rhAatzfeilIoKXIYnvQurs
Just reading and thinking about my response now.
It is a MUST that Lord Sumption is involved with this
I am sure he was instrumental in bringing it about! My primary evidence will be the way in which communications were handled. Daily public press conferences and threatening poster campaigns that closely resembled Hollywood movie posters for horror/dystopian stories. Death tolls on every headline of every media outlet. Psychological torture of children by ministers (“Don’t kill granny”). Misrepresentation of figures (calling questionable positive test results “cases” as if every single person had been examined and diagnosed by a medical professional. Censorship of any voice – no matter how qualified or eminent – that questioned the narrative. Not only do these styles of communication and action utterly undermine public trust, they terrorise people and clear the path for panic-induced theories. They kill vulnerable people. People will choose suicide over living with such fear. NEVER AGAIN! That’s the German motto. Let us not see death on the scale perpetrated by the Nazi Party before we say NEVER AGAIN!
The deadline for submissions is Wednesday 18 November at 11.59pm.
Call for evidence questions:
The use of emergency powers during the Covid-19 pandemic
1. Does the Coronavirus Act 2020 strike the right balance between powers for the Executive and parliamentary oversight and approval?
2. What existing powers (other than those in the Coronavirus Act 2020) might have been used to deliver the Government’s response to the Covid-19 pandemic? Was the Coronavirus Act 2020 necessary to implement the Government’s response to the pandemic?
3. How have the measures taken by the Government to address the pandemic been implemented, i.e. which aspects of the lockdown were set out in legislation, regulations and guidance? What effect has this had on the clarity of the measures?
4. Has the use of emergency powers by the Government to address the pandemic been proportionate?
Criminalisation and enforcement
5. What new criminal offences have been introduced as part of the Government’s response to the pandemic? Is criminalisation a proportionate, justified and appropriate response?
6. Have the new criminal offences introduced in response to the pandemic been sufficiently clear to: (a) members of the public and (b) the public authorities responsible for their interpretation and enforcement (including the police and the Crown Prosecution Service)?
7. What factors led to wrongful arrests and convictions under the emergency powers and how might these have been avoided?
Promulgation
8. To what extent have the legal requirements imposed on people during lockdown been clear and accessible to members of the public? How should the new measures introduced in response to the pandemic be communicated and explained to authorities (e.g. local government, police, border force, regulators), businesses and members of the public?
Devolved and local government
9. What have been the consequences of legal divergence between the constituent parts of the United Kingdom in responding to the pandemic?
10. Have local authorities been granted adequate powers to respond to the pandemic in their local area? Have the emergency measures taken by the Government struck the right balance of power between national and local governments?
11. How well have intergovernmental relations worked during the crisis through established mechanisms and through the Civil Contingencies Committee (COBR)?
12. Are there examples from other countries that are instructive as to the management of the virus between national and regional/state legislatures and executives?
Parliamentary scrutiny
13. To what extent has Parliament been able effectively to scrutinise the statutory instruments related to the pandemic measures? What additional steps ought to be taken to ensure effective scrutiny of emergency statutory instruments in future?
14. To what extent are safeguards on emergency powers (such as provisions for 21-day reviews) undermined when Parliament is not sitting, or when sittings are restricted? How might the law and/or parliamentary procedure need to adapt to such circumstances?
15. What processes are there for securing renewed Parliamentary oversight and control of the legislative agenda once the urgency of a given emergency has diminished? Are the sunset provisions and other safeguards provided for in the Coronavirus Act 2020 and associated regulations sufficient for this purpose?
16. What lessons can be learned from the (1) Government’s preparation, and (2) Parliament’s constrained scrutiny of the fast-tracked Coronavirus Bill? What should be done differently the next time there’s a need for substantial emergency legislation?
17. How does and should the Sewel/Legislative Consent convention operate in relation to emergency legislation?
18. Is there a case for reworking or consolidating emergency powers legislation? Should safeguards and scrutiny processes be standardised and, if so, how should they be designed to operate during a crisis?
I have just submitted my evidence.
It’s easy to do: just write a Word, ODF, or RTF document and upload it.
You need to give your name, and all (accepted) submissions are published. However, there is a box you can tick to request that your submission is published anonymously (although they reserve the right to ignore that request if they so choose).
Just emailed this to my MP, feel free to copy:
Dear Mr …….
Thank you for your response to my enquiry and sorry for the delay in replying.
It does appear that the information that Helen Whately provided you was inaccurate though. The PCR tests are by no means 99.9% accurate.
As you will be aware, the new ‘better’ Lateral Flow Tests that are being used in the mass testing programme in Liverpool are much more sensitive and have a reported accuracy of 99.6%.
I have attached links to the most recent set of data from 06/11/2020 to 15/11/2020 from Liverpool City Council which shows a large discrepancy between ‘positive cases’ captured using PCR tests compared to those captured using Lateral Flow Tests.
https://liverpool.gov.uk/communities-and-safety/emergency-planning/coronavirus/cases-control-and-testing/report-published-16th-november-2020/
https://liverpool.gov.uk/media/1359832/16112020_external.pdf
It appears that the results of the the PCR Test show a far higher percentage of positive ‘cases’.
47,270 tests were performed of which 1,407 or 2.97% of all tests were positive.
The new ‘better’ Lateral Flow Test is revealing that of 65,792 tests performed only 402 people or 0.6% of those tested are positive.
Dr Susan Hopkins has acknowledged that the new test has a False Positive Rate of ~0.4%.
These results show that the PCR test is wildly inaccurate. It means that its results can no longer be used as a justification to suspend normal life and withdraw basic freedoms. It also shows that of the 0.6% of positive cases identified by Lateral Flow Testing, approximately 2/3 of these people could also be false positives.
A…… you must use your influence to stand up to this madness. The Labour Party have been embarrassIngly quiet. The justification for the continued lockdown of society does not bear scrutiny.
Comments please
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFOGBeLPUnY&t=339s
We need to keep our eye on the ball, To wit:
vaccine developed in record time
Using new experimental technology
By companies indemnified against damages claims
Against an ilness with a 0.1% death rate (max)
Where most show no symptoms
I would speculate that this vaccine (and the probably dozens of others that are planned should we lose this war) was developed and ready to go long before Covid-19.
What the voluntary uptake will be is anyone’s guess, but judging by what we have seen with the masks, I would suggest it will be very high indeed. The main stumbling block for me will be how quickly it can actually be distributed before the “side” effects start manifesting in large enough numbers to bring the whole thing crashing down.
I have sensible people saying they wouldn’t touch it with a bargepole until we’re years down the line.
Agreed – but for persuasion work it is probably better to stick to the ‘rushed development’ argument.
Totally, the mad rush is a massive own goal that has aroused the suspicion of many staunchly pro-vaccine people that I know, especially given the new and highly risky technology that is being used.
I suspect the first dose will have no obvious effect. I’d be very wary of the second one!
Codenamed Triumph for obvious reasons, yes, although the second dose is supposedly to be administered only 28 days after the first.
‘The second one”…….. surely they will be ongoing ad infinitum? The amount of fear which has pervaded in nearly every nation on earth will be hard to extinguish as more new viruses will arrive and now we have a blueprint on how to deal with them.
Yearly Boosters and precautionary measures for ever too. Sorry to be doom laden but ‘we ain’t seen nothing yet!!’
Things aren’t looking good. But Ticketmaster had to climb down after unexpectedly large criticism so maybe it’s not completely lost.
I mentioned that in my latest MP email today
Is messanger RNA such a new experimental technology?
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1748013219301483
Don’t waste your time.
Do you agree with Dr Christiane Northrup re 5G etc?
I don’t know enough about it to comment other than to say I certainly think it warrants some sceptical investigation.
So you’ve not looked into the link between 5G & Sars Cov2 ?
I watched it and the one before but couldn’t find the actual female ‘conspiracy theorist/obstetrician’ he is refuting.
The doctor starts by arguing for a focussed protection and small lockdowns. Then he advises wearing a mask – not because they will prevent all droplets but because you will get less through the mask and this will give your immune system a chance to kick back…..
I’ve not heard this rationale before !!
Try this one
https://www.boomlive.in/fake-news/covid-19-vaccine-to-alter-dna-5-false-claims-by-christiane-northrup-10651
He’s just ranting a load of biased bollox.
To all Scottish sceptics: do you think that the police state that now exists in your country will rebound on the SNP?
it hasnt in Victoria yet
And what is the common denominator between Victoria and Scotland….. Lefties everywhere!
I keep hoping that happens, as do I keep hoping that there will be some sort of civil unrest…but, as of yet….still hoping.
Not sure on this one. I live in what was once a predominantly labour area but SNP have been voted in for years now. Most of my husbands family are still staunch labour and have never liked the SNP or her in charge.
I can add I stopped voting labour when they stopped representing us and have voted SNP but I will never vote for them or labour again. I will never forgive or will I ever forget what these power hungry politicians have done to this country and I will do everything in my power to make sure she and her party do not get in in my area again.
Thank you for that comprehensive and honest reply.
I stopped voting Labour after “New” Labour became “Blue” Labour and voted Liberal Democrat in the belief that the Lib Dems were further to the left than Labour and then I voted Green for the same reason, I returned to Labour last year because I believed that Corbyn had taken Labour back to a socialist party again.
But what now?, all the present parties believe in the same madness that is destroying all our lives.
Where can us sceptics turn to?, that’s if any sceptic party exists.
Apart from its being obvious who not to support right now, I think the viable alternatives will coalesce into something identifiable when voting becomes an option again.
At the moment, we have other more immediate things to focus on.
Sadly I think the SNP cult has brainwashed too many people up here already and they can do no wrong.
A cult, yes, people just give up and stop thinking for themselves.
I certainly hope so. We are out and about a lot and it is clear that those we blether to are increasingly unhappy at what is going on but most people feel helpless and comply with most of the nonsense because they feel that they have no option. However the assault on family, criminalising your children visiting you, is not going down well. Most people seem to be ignoring this or at least convince themselves that they somehow aren’t covered by the rules. I suspect that Sturgeon will resign as First Minister some time next year citing the strain of fighting Covid but the real reason is that her Alex Salmond shenanigans are catching up with her. I just do not know how the elections will play out but the rising tide of unemployment is going to be increasingly difficult to defend so I would like to believe that this will translate into a reduced SNP vote.
I’ve given up trying to convince anyone about the current and future assaults on individual liberty – it’s just too abstract for most people to grasp. While they have their bread and circuses, they will accept almost anything. But I do think ‘war fatigue’ will begin to creep in and if anything is to change, it will be this that brings it about. Eventually, there will be money problems and the ‘Great Reset’ may not be as easy to impose as some might think. However, I am resigned now to this taking years rather than months, and I do not think we will ever get back to the ‘old normal’ whatever happens.
I doubt it. Sturgeon can point to the “police state” as one necessitated by Whitehall incompetence. Dear leader Nicola is simply keeping you all safe by locking you up, effectively preventing hospitals and doctors from saving lives, isolating the vulnerable, and destroying livelihoods and family life.
No. Not in any meaningful way. The SNP have a 10-year track record of failure, but the faithful still vote for them come what may. Probably because independence (from Westminster, not Brussels) is a religion – it’s based on emotion rather than rational argument. Furthermore, the SNP have always been authoritarian (e.g. Named Persons), so the current dystopia is simply showing us what an independent Scotland would look like under the SNP, and an alarming number of Scots seem to be happy being told how to live their lives.
Our best hope of escaping the clutches of the cult is a split within the SNP itself.
Sadly, I don’t think so. Just like the factual analysis of covid, factual analysis of cause and effect is not an SNP voter strong point.
The Krankienfuhrer and her loyal band of spiteful hall monitors will find some way to blame the Glasgow lockdown on the English, or the Tories, or heretic Scots like us who don’t follow her pointless and deranged rules.
Her cult’s most precious belief is that anything bad that happens up here can ALWAYS be blamed on the English, or the Tory PM du jour. Every delusional cult needs a devil figure after all.
Not far wrong in that when it comes to Boris Johnson, though Matt Hancock might be a better fit…
I’m not optimistic. I’m a Politics lecturer at a university (that shall not be named) here and have studied the SNP for some time. The best hope for change is for a split in the party, but it has iron discipline. Even the ‘incident’ with Alex Salmond, which is being investigated by the Scottish Parliament and not receiving full cooperation from the Scottish Government (a scandal in itself), is not making a dent in the party’s support. As others have said here, if the party’s abysmal 13-year track record in power doesn’t reduce your support, it’s unlikely that anything will. Multilevel governance (devolution) allows the SNP to take credit for what works and put the blame on the UK (basically England) for all of Scotland’s problems. It’s hopeless and points to some failings in the structure of devolution, though I’m not sure that a perfect institutional design (if it existed) would work here due to the strong sense of Scottish identity and grievance culture.
The ‘rona episode has given ‘Dear Leader’ Sturgeon a platform that she has taken full advantage of. Even though she has done very little that has differed from the rest of the UK, and outcomes have been very similar, most Scots seem to think she has done ‘very well’ and much better than Boris Johnson. I despair, but most common sense and rational thinking went out the window here (and nearly everywhere else in the world) back in March – though the SNP was doing well before this despite its poor domestic policy record (education in particular) and support for independence is being sustained, for many months, at record levels.
Sturgeon has a weird Svegali effect on most people here. I have seen face masks saying ‘Thank you, Nicola’ in a shop window. She could be filmed torturing kittens and it would not have any impact on her popularity. Part of the explanation for her and her party’s popularity is simply that they are not Boris, the UK government or English. It also helps that the opposition here is divided and Unionists are seen by many (though not all) as not truly Scottish, and the Conservatives here were largely opposed to devolution itself for some time. Labour made a terrible mistake by joining Better Together (the No side) with the Conservatives during the independence referendum campaign and will probably never recover. A lot of people here seem to be quite tribal – strong Scottish identity, as well as (sometimes) other identities, such as with religious groups. The sectarian problem here is a lot worse than the government would like you to think (Scotland is not the cosmopolitan, outward-looking place they want to portray it as), though it’s hard to conceal the problem when they fought so hard to keep the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act, the first act that was actually repealed here.
That leads me to authoritarianism, which I think is somewhat worse than in England, though perhaps not all that much. Scotland does have this reputation, and there is some truth to it (particularly in the past, in areas like gay rights and prisoners’ rights), but I don’t think it’s all that different from England today. I’ve lived in both nations but come from overseas, so have observed this from a fairly objective stance. The opinion data I have seen on this matter doesn’t show a huge difference, as is also the case with the ‘myth of a progressive Scotland’ – Scots may like to think they are much more left wing than the English, but this is not true. It doesn’t stop some (not all) from displaying a rather sanctimonious attitude, which the SNP does all the time, trying to distance itself from big, bad ‘Tory’ England, yet complaining when it doesn’t get enough money.
So, sorry to go on, but I’m not optimistic about any negative impact on the Scottish Government or SNP anytime soon, at least not any sooner than in the rest of the UK. I think the way out of this will come from a combination of factors: economic (mainly), general fatigue on the part of the public, widespread failure to adhere to rules, and ultimately a big reluctance to take the magic vaccine. I hope we don’t see riots, but I would not rule that out. Ultimately, it was a hysterical public that led most governments (which, in the UK, was initially reluctant) into this disaster, and I think it will be an angry public that will lead us out. Here in Scotland, I actually think Sturgeon and her party will avoid the blame that will eventually fall on BoJo and his dreadful cabinet (except for Rishi, who I expect will take over early next year) and will probably win a majority of Scottish Parliament seats in May. We’ll see what happens with a second referendum.
This is my first post here. I have been reading for months and have to thank you for helping me to maintain my sanity! Most of my academic ‘colleagues’ were cheering the lockdown, but I was opposed from the beginning and have lost most of the friends I once had at the university.
Here’s one… Sorry for not trawling the growing number of comments to find the relevant one to reply to… But here’s my addition to the quotathon:
““I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives.”
Tolstoy
That’s utterly true.Witness the fury and spitefulness of academics whose pet theories are challenged.
PM program on Radio 4 this evening had an interview with a person that claims to have been reinfected with covid – justifying Boris isolation – but
no question as to the impact of such a discovery on vax plans
Is that six now? Out of how many million cases?
Around 800,000,000
Depend which test you’re using. About 55 million worldwide using PCR and about 2 million worldwide using the special Nick Rose testing kit, which has no false positives.
“Claims” to have been? Did they have a positive test? Any symptoms?
Don’t worry about the vaccine though. That’s special.
I think he said he had a positive test second time round then slipped in he didn’t take a test the first time- didn’t sound conclusive to me
Sounds about right, so he has no idea if he actually had it at all, yet it’s taken as conclusive evidence and reported as fact on a national radio programme.
Talk about spreading misinformation and lies… They need to be censored.
First time round he’d had some symptoms – funny taste but no test. Few months later when giving blood was told he had antibodies for cv19 – so presumed it was an infection.
Depending on the exact timeline, perhaps he did have it the first time around and the second was just debris – would at least expect a reasonable examination of this interesting claim – but it was the BBC
Do you feel that in a real pandemic the government wouldn’t need to resort to the draconian laws and punishment we have seen as people would voluntarily take precautions if they saw clear evidence there was a contagious and dangerous virus around. Does the fact governments have to resort to draconian laws mean there is no visible threat from a dangerous disease. Do you think the current laws would be excessive even in a real pandemic.
“if there was a real pandemic,
the government and the media would do everything to calm us down”
Best ever LS comment.
Yes, because people voluntarily took precautions before the first lockdown, when it was unclear how big the threat would be. I would certainly not be moaning about not being able to go down the pub if Ebola was doing the rounds.
Even if half the population was dying, the government has no right to do what they did. We’d sort ourselves out, we don’t need the government to do it for us.
I suspect the draconian laws/threats/overreactions have more to do with the government showing its own lack of leadership. That is what has been lacking in this entire “crisis”: leadership.
Thing is when China comes up with the Covid 21 upgrade where does the government go with restrictions having gone so far for the minor impact Covid 19. What would they do if there was a real pandemic with you stepping over bodies in the street?
Perhaps they would go for the Sadiq Khan approach when there’s literally blood in the street, people being slaughtered at London Bridge, Borough Market: “Oh just carry on as normal…”
Sebastian Rushworth suitably sceptical on Long Covid (apologies if link already posted):-
https://sebastianrushworth.com/2020/11/17/what-is-long-covid/
Dont think Sturgeon’s lockdown would work in the summer, convenient timing
So on the same day that Boris blunders through an indelicate message on devolution, Sturgeon responds with what is effectively house arrest and martial law across Scotland. I know I am singing to the choir here, but just how much longer are the public going to bow down and take this power grab?
You have a lovely singing voice though. Bowing down? As long as there is the BBC, Sky News etc. not for a while yet. Things are unraveling though and quite quickly I think.
I also think that TPTB also realise it.
I don’t want to sing to the choir – I want to sing WITH one! Bastards!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmGecHDps8U
I got a letter from the Labour Party, including a brightly illustrated message from Keir Starmer, a form to register for a postal vote and a prepaid envelope addressed to my council electoral services.
Given the postal vote shenanegans currently being investigated in the US, this seemed pretty daft!
I’d been jotting down juicy phrases to put in a letter of response. Then their censorship suggestions were publicised.
So, I readdressed the envelope to the Labour Party and wrote on the back of their letter:
Please tell Sir Kneelalot Stalin that the
LabourNazi Party should be stamped out forthwith.Feel much better now!
In today’s update of Sturgeon talks a lot of bollocks:-
“But Level 4 is intended to be short and sharp. And in this situation, it is specifically intended to have an impact in advance of Christmas and the most challenging winter period.”
I bet you are use to short and sharp Nicola eh. I am sure we have heard this before though…
“Lifting the Level 4 restrictions then – as we will do – also means that they will not be in place for most of the Hanukkah period – so again, while celebrations may be different, there will be a greater degree of freedom.”
Who the fuck cares about Hannukkah! Even in the progressive woke Scottish Parliament the Jews cannot be that big of a concern right now.
“We will assess nearer the time the level that will apply in each area when the Level 4 restrictions end on December 11.” The First Minister added that she hoped the affected areas would be able to move to Level 2 “much more quickly than would otherwise be the case”.
Oh great so you’ve shafted us with a higher level to get to a lower level at some indeterminate date. Thanks very much Nic!
Wales had a short, sharp lockdown. It really sent ‘cases’ soaring.
Where can I find evidence of this to send to my MP (a “circuit breaker” advocate)? On the govt dashboard Welsh “cases” appear to have fallen quite steeply, and that will be what she’s looking at. I know ONS data has found a rise, but is there any other source?
Yep their Health Secretary admitted it had failed but argued to continue with it would break faith with the people.
That faith is well and truly broken already.
‘Break faith’ is a poignant reminder of Remembrance Day:
Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
Let us not fail to catch that torch. Freedom was not won for all time in 1918, or 1945, it is passed on as a sacred gift to each generation.
The one I ignored?
Isn’t this really a third lockdown, for all the Tier 4 places? If the second lockdown didn’t work, why will a third?
Oh I give up, I don’t know why I keep asking these questions.
There’s no point trying to find any logic in it. The one good thing in all this nonsense is that if there really is some sort of Great Reset going on, our lot are so clueless they are likely to make a total hash of it.
LOL at the desperate attempt at inclusivity by references to Hannukah. How many practising Jews are there in Scotland these days? 20? Probably also meant as a dig at Labour as well.
You might be right about the labour anti semitism slight. I doubt practicing jews even represent 0.1% of the population.
Some good news today .Not only Anthony Brookes on talk radio but Karol Sakora ,Mike Yeadon and also Lawrence Fox .Fox is saying if lockdown is not lifted on the second he will be at the head of the protests and is against mandatory vaccines .Over on the Guido Fawkes website Guido tried to take Richard Tice to task for questioning the P C R tests in liverpool as Yeadon and Craig have done . So far the comments look to me very much in Tice’s favour .It seems Tice has called Hancock out on twitter .
I posted a comment on Guido about him not getting on to the real political issues like corruption, Dido, her husband and Hancock are all in it thick as thieves, Guido has really gone down in the last year, he is a bedwetter now too.
Yes, right down the pan, and I think it was the mask mandate when I detected the change. I visit far less often now. And it used to be a brilliant site.
I stopped being a regular there when Guido acted as an obvious propagandist in favour of Theresa’s Withdrawal Agreement Treaty. Ages ago now.
Trying to post anything on Guido was constantly trying to anticipate the mods. Pathetic from an advocate of free speech.
He went down a long time ago, censoring and banning anyone with perfectly reasonable sceptical views on a certain religion.
I like to look at the comments and gauge how things are going for the government .Everytime he sticks up for the government he gets hundreds of comments saying he’s wrong . Anyway i’m glad he’s challenging Tice because if Guido is wrong it give more strength and support to our cause and more publicity . I would urge everyone to write to their M Ps and challenge the P C R tests at every opportunity ,because the argument against these tests are gaining ground by the day .
I thought Paul Staines was a full-on libertarian. Anti-licence fee, legalise recreational drugs etc..
It seems inconsistent that his site is so pro-government and pro-panic.
He is complete missing the real stories.
Suggestions please?
I have used Podbean for several years
Malcolm Kendrick not holding back. Legend.
https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/11/17/stamping-on-the-anti-vaxxers-a-very-stupid-idea/
It would seem that the “behavioral scientists” in Sage are about as competent as the rest of the bunch. They’ve misjudged the shift in public mood, they’re out of touch.
Denouncing those who’ve been largely compliant as “anti vaxxer conspiracy theorists” simply because they dare to hold valid concerns has been a spectacular own goal. Two people I’ve spoken to have questioned the need for them to take a vaccine themselves in any case. The government have made sceptics out of them without any help from me.
The edifice is starting to crumble. Keep chipping away!
If you are scared of the virus, it is just as rational to be scared of the vaccine.
Managed to get a dental appointment today just for a check up which was surprising. Didn’t wear a mask, nobody asked, was offered hand sanitiser but said no. All the staff there were lovely. No issues. No price increase.
They couldn’t do a clean and polish as they then have to wait an hour before they can see somebody else if they use aerosols (ridiculous nhs guidelines that the dentist was/is furious about). Had a manual clean instead. The dentist I had knows this is all a load of bollocks.
I think most of them do. I’ve been 8 times since May (don’t ask!) – the first time I went I said what the hell do they think they’re doing telling YOU about PPE and hygiene. Talk about teaching your granny to suck eggs.
My dentist, after sending out a ‘don’t even think about visiting us’ email a few months ago, is now sending ‘please come and visit us, we’d love to see you’ emails. I think most dentists make their money from private practice so they are probably struggling at the moment.
Yes, I’ve had no checkups despite being on Denplan for years. You should have seen how fast I had an appointment when the following conversation happened:
“I want to cancel my Denplan because you haven’t given me a checkup for over six months.” “There is a pandemic on, you know.” [I actually thought I heard her say “war” instead of “pandemic” at first] “The government has downgraded this nonsense in March. It’s not a pandemic. You haven’t done the work; I’m cancelling my Denplan direct debit.” “Can you come in on Saturday next week?”
Happy birthday to me. I would be down the pub with other human beings, laughing, joking, arguing, possibly making a fool of myself. But here I am watching a birthday go by sat on my settee.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY LIAM
Thank you. Had a nice curry at home with my youngest (know the restaurant that delivered, took cash like sane reasonable people do). Having a beer now
Enioy. Happy Birthday
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.7VrbHsGyXINOefz9T8y_8gHaHa?w=184&h=184&c=7&o=5&dpr=1.1&pid=1.7
Best I can do Liam!
Thank you
Wishing you many, far happier returns, Liam!
Happy Birthday I hope you have drinks on the settee
Oh yes
Happy Birthday, let’s hope you can have your next one properly.
Happy birhtday mate. I should be in Tenerife right now…I hate this government so flippin’ MUCHHHHHH!
Thanks for that and also for the good work you do.
No worries mate!
Happy birthday, Liam. I usually go away for mine (June), for a walking holiday somewhere with beautiful scenery.
Not this year :o((
I usually go walking on mine too. Really missed it this year.
Happy birthday Liam! It was my birthday two days ago and I was sat on the sofa also but with a beer in my hand
Happy belated birthday Lydia.
Well at least you’re alive my man! Happy birthday
happy birthday!
Happy birthday — may next year’s be better! Sounds like you made the best of it though. I think we all know what your wish would be when blowing out candles on a cake.
Happy Birthday, enjoy it as much as you can! All the best
Happy Birthday!!!
Many years!
Many happier returns!
Happy Birthday!
Happy birthday, Liam!
Scottish police to arrest people travelling between different ‘tiers’!
Scotland, like many other small nations, are always the guinea pigs for the changes to come that are bourne from long standing agendas.
Can’t travel between tiers and may be charged per mile for the privilege of travelling within your tier. I would laugh if it wasn’t so serious.
I refer to the post about Scotland’s covid deaths…just 8 below 29! Yet they are all doomed! Ridiculous.
Make no mistake these tiers will never lift, they have a taste of totalitarian power and they aren’t going to give it up.
FIGHTING BACK IS NOW YOUR MORAL DUTY!
And just to rub some more SNP salt into the wound…
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/news/18875829.glasgow-city-council-block-covid-deniers-mask-decriers-anti-vaxxers-social-media-channels/
My (English) MP has already blocked me from his fb page.
Is travelling between tiers permitted to visit a bubble, or to work? If so, then they cannot realistically stop anyone.
Letter written to MP, select committees, etc:
I have read the recent submission by Dr Lisa Forsberg, Dr Isra Black, Dr Thomas Douglas and Dr Jonathan Pugh concerning compulsory vaccination against Covid-19 (https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/9253/pdf/), and note that no reference has been made to some international agreements adopted by the United Kingdom concerning this issue.
One relevant such agreement is the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) adopted by the UK on 20th August 1976, Article 7 of which includes: “..no one shall be subjected without his free consent to medical or scientific experimentation”.
I find the arguments presented to the committee tenuous at best, particularly the “parity” argument concerning the current lockdown measures, the legality of which are questionable in any case and are currently the subject of a court case brought by Simon Dolan questioning the way the Public Health Act 1984 has been used.
The last time some Europeans jabbed people without their consent they ended up at the end of a rope. The Nuremberg Code, particularly Point 1, is worthy of mention here.
Mandatory vaccination against Covid-19 is not just contrary to human liberty – it is also disproportionate. Why would anyone, particularly those under 70, consent to a vaccine against a disease which has a 99.94% recovery rate and which has dropped to very low levels in the UK? Particularly when these new vaccines have been cooked up in a matter of months, rather than years, and hence could only be considered as “experimentation” at this stage.
Many people will not consent to taking a vaccine, and any attempt to override their consent will result in massive resistance. The inhumane and unnecessary lockdown measures of antisocial distancing and mask wearing (which would get you funny looks in Sweden, Norway or Estonia) are bad enough and should be scrapped. Mandatory vaccination will just increase the disapproval of the public with the government, and lead to the wipe-out of the current political class in all upcoming elections.
We do not wish to live in a police state and under a medical fascist regime. All MPs in Westminster would be advised to listen to the public.
Thank you for your time.
Yes, of course, plagiarize and use it as you wish! The international agreement I mentioned might not be legally binding, but we have to throw everything we have at them!
In case this hasn’t already been posted and anyone is interested. You have until midnight tomorrow night to submit your views:
Call for evidenceConstitutional implications of COVID-19: Emergency powers
https://committees.parliament.uk/call-for-evidence/258/constitutional-implications-of-covid19/?fbclid=IwAR1KieLPIqDcOt4W89bRCnrPWwm_IDXAaZc-6rhAatzfeilIoKXIYnvQurs
You don’t need an app, just listen in your browser here:
https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/richieallen/episodes/2020-11-17T11_35_09-08_00
Thanks. That’s great!
So what would Boris do if we were all French?
Sorry about this but the French do do it better, sometimes, but not often. This is how it works in the French administration today. We have friends who work for the French government and have colleagues tested positive, so this is factual.
Because Boris and Matt are dicks who cannot even get the basic point that test / trace is meant to get the country moving instead of creating fantastical figures to lock everyone up through false positives, it means that Boris self isolates for 14 days, 30,000 or so nurses are self isolating, patients are dying through lack of care, we are in Lockdown and continually threatened with more Lockdown, thousands of people are facing an early death at home instead of in a hospital, and thousands are facing bankruptcy and reduced income.
Boris needs to smarten up his act. Now. At least someone in our useless government should think about this shambolic need to self isolate. Why follow the rules when the rules are total bollocks and designed by idiots who choose to stay silent when thousands of UK vulnerable people are neglected and dying in their homes after months of restricted access to the NHS?
What happens if you don’t want to ram a stick up your nose and down your throat? Sorry, but France has given me no cause for admiration. It is the country of Sade, not of Revolution, the ancien regime, and not Enlightenment.
The same as in the UK, you don’t go to lab or testing centre.
Why 6 upticks for such a silly post?
Maximum societal disruption by design.
But not by Bojo..
If the test is negative, you inform your Boss.
Your Boss then tells you to come back to work.
That’s how it’s supposed to work here! My son’s idiot colleague tested positive for a sniffle. Everyone except sniffler was back at work in a couple of days.
dePiffle is hiding and they’ve created an excuse to “ramp up” the fear.
There’s been lots of waffle about how only 18% or people obey the 14-day isolation period. I think Boris thinks the stupid monkeys will do the same if he follows it to the letter.
Yes. I reckon Boris is mentally damaged, selfish, lonely, lacks any compassion, and needs help.
He could/should probably have been more protected when he was ill. Who was caring for him back then? Instead of the NHS protecting him, when he was ill, he was following his own dangerous killer mantra of ‘Protecting the NHS’…and could have become another ‘death at home’ casualty. Why TF would you protect the NHS when the NHS should be protecting us/ the old/ the vulnerable during an apparent pandemic?
As it went he was lucky enough to go to hospital (unlike about 700 UK citizens every week today, who are the excess deaths at home).
Surely, if he were sane and compassionate, he would reflect on how to reduce death and suffering of his people during during his barmy isolation decision and start being a leader and encouraging people to see their Doctor?
I think it was clear in his Bullingdon days that he lacks compassion. He certainly hasn’t developed any since then.
He was insane to think he could lead the country but not as insane as those who voted for the lazy, lying narcissistic bastard.
It’s wrong to think that in nations of 60 million plus with 100 home languages spoken and diverse often mutually hostile cultures that mass testing and tracing will achieve the desired results. You end up testing millions of healthy and law-abiding people for no perceivable gain but at huge expense. Also the traced “contacts” never include the hundreds of contacts in the most risky place: supermarkets!
Yes. Its a complete waste of money, lots of money. Our kids will have to pay for it.
The BBC are now blaming excess deaths not caused by covid on the strain the pandemic has placed on Society and the health service. I will open a very good bottle when the license fee is abolished!!!
Abolish it yourself, stop paying. I did ages ago.
Yes, that’s Whitty’s line so I’m not surprised they’re repeating it.
abolish it yourself and have a bottle now
I’ve heard this myself from a number of sources. They are so wedded to the lockdown saves lives narrative that a young man committing suicide due to isolation when at zero risk to the virus is because eof this deadly virus.
There’ll be more of this shite as the collaborators try and explain away the lack of massive excess deaths for 2020 and the fact that any modest above average is made up of a significant of non covid lockdown caused deaths.
If someone commits suicide because of isolation, the only people to blame are the people who mandated the isolation – no one else. Boris and Matt are the killers in that scenario. HOW THE HELL can any sane mind come up with any other answer? What are these deluded people thinking??? I am literally spitting mad. What is their logic?? The NHS being overburdened (not!) caused them to throw themselves in front of a train?
excess deaths were apparent from the first week of lockdown back in March-which lead me to this site
Hi everyone.
Sorry I’ve not yet told you the rest of my adventures when I went leafleting yesterday in Wimbledon. First thing – have you seen this ?
Call-for-evidence, constitutional implications of covid19. Sounds important …
Deadline for response is tomorrow evening!
https://committees.parliament.uk/call-for-evidence/258/constitutional-implications-of-covid19/?fbclid=IwAR1KieLPIqDcOt4W89bRCnrPWwm_IDXAaZc-6rhAatzfeilIoKXIYnvQurs
yes a bit too late to put something together
I’ve asked a friend to give us a draft we can adapt. I know, I’m tired out and can’t get my head round this sort of thing. Hopefully at least a few of us can.
Why does it have to be so complicated?
The number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 6 November 2020 (Week 45) was 11,812; this was 925 more deaths than in Week 44.
Based on a statistical model that allows for the time taken for deaths to be registered, we estimate that the number of deaths actually occurring (rather than registered) in Week 45 in England and Wales was between 10,912 and 13,671.
Chilling stuff https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/11/16/businesses-must-join-fight-against-anti-vaxxers/ (paywall) but includes “It should be a rule, with a tweak to the law if necessary, that you can’t get on a plane, or stay at a hotel, or go to a theatre or nightclub without a vaccination. It isn’t much different than enforcing a ban on under-age drinking, and we can all carry a vaccination certificate on our phone.” But the point is that these vaccines have been rushed out at a speed never seen before.
“Tweak.”
These people are unfit to live.
What a patently ludicrous and false analogy: “It isn’t much different than enforcing a ban on under-age drinking.” That’s not allowing people to do something, whereas an enforced vaccination is compelling people to agree to a potentially unsafe intrusion of their body.
Subtly testing the waters for the plans again. I hope the comments are as sceptical as they have been lately.
Subtly?!
Hopefully, some enterprising IT person will come up with a vaccination certificate for one’s phone which does not require one to take the actual vaccine.
Just what I was thinking! (hoping)
Or business owners will finally grow a set and stop coalescing to the destruction of their customer base.
When the track and trace app launched someone created a web page that simulated a venue check-in. It was taken down within 24 hours of being bookmarked. Normal due process doesn’t apply anymore, censorship is swift. An app would also never make it near an app store, and only a minority know how to sideload.
No, the point is its undermines every human right gained in the past 100 years.
A door opened to this kind of coercion means we will never get freedom back without full scale societal breakdown. Remember the MPs who said that the Coronavirus Act was voted in with a heavy heart but that it was only temporary? Well, at the very least they themselves were coerced into extending it and will be again. We have to work twice as hard to regain the freedom they seem to give away with such ease.
Nothing more permanent than a temporary government measure.
Sooner or later we’re going to face some one with a syringe and we’re going to have to say no.
There will likely be a whole criminal enterprise allowing you to pay to have a fake vaccination – especially as they will be recruiting anyone off the street to inject it.
Surely this would have to apply to all vaccines? Including those for diseases that are far more deadly than covid.
No comments allowed on either that article or Celia Walden’s anti-vaxx rant. Michael Deacon’s in a similar vain has not only had comments closed, they have been removed from under the article completely. The comments were almost all highly critical of the Telegraph’s stance on pushing the anti-vaxx slur on sensible, and necessary, concerns by many well-informed and intelligent members of the public. If ‘they’ think this will engender a positive response to the vaccine they are mistaken. My sense is the public’s view on vaccination for this virus, either mandated or coerced, is hardening.
If it’s any good, they don’t need to mandate it.
No, The point is that this is completely unacceptable in a free society, however effective the vaccine. I wonder what the response of these Wokists would be to compulsory STD testing for all dating agencies?
Given the vaccine is directly altering your DNA, this basically eugenics, something else Wokists claim to despise.
The woke are easily steered with the right marketing.
Never trust someone who says “much different than”.
When will this madness end?
Another excellent article by Allison Pearson in The Telegraph: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/earth-common-sense-among-chaos/
Yes, she seems to be getting back on track!
“Do you think it’s right and proper than in the biggest health crisis this country has faced for a hundred years, that you as Health Secretary and the entire Cabinet and the prime Minister have boycotted a big morning breakfast television programme and our viewers for six months?” asked Piers. “Did you support the boycott? Did you agree with it?”
Hundreds of thousands in the UK die from flu, pneumonia and other infectious viruses every decade. Covid is not the biggest health crisis in the last hundred years.
It’s not the biggest health crisis this year.
Matt Hancock is easily one of the biggest health crisis in the last hundred years.
Matt Han-what?
I take my hat off to those of you able to watch the clown.
You do it, so that I don’t have to.
Diddums, poor old Piers, his show got boycotted. About the only bloody thing this government has got right since it was elected.
Hospital Admissions & Deaths, today’s figures from 25th Oct. That’s 20 days. There shouldn’t be any impact yet from Lockdown 2, that should kick in (assuming Lockdowns work!!!!) from the end of this week.
So, we’re still reaping the whirlwind of BBC reported rapid spikes in cases from before the MPs voted on Lockdown 2. Oh, there wasn’t a spike in cases or hospitalisations, or deaths? That’s right, all over-dramatised to scare people.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare
Hi, looking for members in Essex/Saffron Waldon.
Has kh1485 told us the name of her shop? I’ve a friend in the area who is facing the inquisition aka school headteacher and others about her child not wearing a mask.
She’s looking for local friends and ideally a person to go to the meeting with her on Monday.
Your friend needs to tell them to go boil their heads. I’d love to help but I’m in the Midlands.
Thanks – I’ll tell her!
Anyone else close enough to help, even just for a chat over the weekend?
Can I suggest you repost the comment at busy times? This is a quiet part of the evening comments wise and some people here are really good on exemption law etc. Feel really angry about your friend being bullied like this. I’d do a bit of a search on the subject but tbh I’m a bit drunk (it’s my birthday!).
LOL happy birthday Liam
Happy birthday, I’ll raise a glass to you. Argentinian Malbec if that’s ok.
I challenged the mask policy in my daughters school in Wales. Here’s the headmasters reply
“Good morning,
Face coverings are highly recommended in school during key times.
If your child is exempt from wearing one, they go to see their Learning Mentor who will provide them with a lanyard indicating they are exempt. This can be shown to staff when they ask your child to wear a mask
I hope this clarifies the situation for you.
Dave”
So only highly recommend. I then asked if lanyards are compulsory (I am a real pain!)
“She can put the lanyard in her pocket. It’s a way of staff being able to identify learners who are exempt and so it will stop exempt learners being repeatedly asked to please wear a mask.
Thanks for your understanding. A lanyard is visible to staff, which is why we have selected that option
Dave”
Not sure how visible a pocketed lanyard is, but Hope this helps.
Highly recommended by whom?
Probably by headteacher Dave, but as he’d dropped compulsory I let it go.
WTF is a learning mentor? They were known as teachers in my day. This new fangled crap does my head in.
Consultantese, which itself is a euphemism for bollocks.
Might not be a teacher. Low-paid TAs are having to teach nowadays while the qualified teachers skive off somewhere.
I suspect if you searched for coffee shops beginning with ‘K’ in Saffron Walden then checked maps for those with a view of the bandstand, you’d narrow it down pretty effectively.
Here’s the data for Uttlesford, which appears to inc Saffron Walden.
Remember, it probably went up in mid oct when lot’s of your student age kids went off to Uni, got tested there & the fools at PHE allocated the tests to the student’s home towns not Manchester, Leeds, Nottingham or wherever they were actually living.
I live nearby. Tell your friend to contact me and I will help. docross@clara.co.uk
Disturbed by the current BBC Holby City and its irresponsible promotion of mask-wearing. First the propaganda itself and then the fact that in the space of 5 minutes different characters have pulled down the front of their mask with their hand, twiddled and played with mask (not on), fetched a mask from jacket pocket, wore mask around neck next to beard…surely if the BBC must push this nonsense they need to show everyone wearing and handling responsibly.
Realistic I’d say
https://opensafely.org/
New platform which provides anonymous patient records from the NHS. 24 million. For the analysts among us.
From the Fascist Junta’s initial response to the petition against persecuting those who won’t take the Covviejab:
“The UK has a world class national immunisation programme which is constantly reviewed and updated to reflect the changing nature of infectious diseases and provide the best protection for the public. All vaccines used in the UK are thoroughly tested, meet strict safety criteria and are carefully monitored after they are introduced into the national programme. Our evidence-based immunisation programmes are informed by the advice of our work leading expert committee – the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), which reviews a wide range of scientific and other evidence, keeping the vaccine schedule safe and relevant.”
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/323442
My bold.
Note the bit about the monitoring, which they know to be a lie in this case.
These words may come back to haunt them.
What about I am a citizen of a (nominally) free country and I do not want to be injected with this vaccine? I may be wrong, but that’s my prerogative.
Yep. They won’t be able to hide from the lies when they are in court for damages and then for crimes against humanity.
The govt response to the vaccination consultation many of us responded to back in September is dated 16 October, apologies if those here already commented on it:
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu/outcome/government-response-consultation-on-changes-to-the-human-medicines-regulations-to-support-the-rollout-of-covid-19-vaccines.
The only changes made are to:
Nothing of real substance was altered as a result of the consultation.
If there are unpleasant side effects then ‘carefully monitored after they are introduced’ is too frickin late for the people suffering.
But not life tested. As in administered for a year or two under certain conditions before rollout. Like your car or plane.
So if these vaccines are all safe and monitored so carefully, there’s no excuse for making them mandatory. People will understand how the system works, and make their own decisions, based on the level of trust each vaccine deserves.
This is how Dr Gabriel Scully, of Independent SAGE, thinks we should spend Christmas this year.
“Plant your Christmas tree in the garden this year, and open your presents underneath the tree outside with family, or something like that,” he said.
What about all the millions of people who live in flats and have no garden? What about the fact that it’s the middle of winter and will most likely be freezing cold or raining? Are we supposed to have Christmas lunch out there too? What about actually suggesting something sane and sensible for once?!
‘Or something like that’
Maybe we can all come up with suggestions.
Suggestion:
Instead of pulling Christmas crackers in the traditional way you should avoid getting close to each other by tying one end of the cracker to a door handle and then one person can pull the cracker whilst another safely pulls their end from the other side of the door.
Here’s my suggestion: just behave normally and have a normal Christmas unless you have any symptoms, in which case stay at home.
The End.
She’s welcome to her medieval Christmas.
I’d very happily have a medieval Christmas! They didn’t cower in fear like frightened dogs.
After suffering the beating he took from Maajid Nawaz a couple of weeks ago on LBC he has some brass neck to be out so soon with that crap.
No doubt he has a large outdoor structure resplendent with fire pits and outdoor heaters. How do these people remain so untouched by real life?
I’m still expecting them to declare a virtual Christmas with everyone having videocall screen dinners. Although at least you can mute annoying relatives.
Do exactly whatever the fuck you want “or something like that”
Three local houses to me already have their Christmas decs up. Never seen this before December round here.
We intend to put our lights out as well, just as soon as we can persuade someone to go into the loft and get them down. (DH has put his back out, I’m scared of heights)
Funny that, according to the Sun, there is the biggest jump in Covid deaths over 24 hours for last six months: 598. Is there a parliamentary vote in the offing? Or is that Boris feels he is losing his grip? Or is this part of a power grab by Hancock?
It was 595 last Wednesday I believe, so I’m not sure what they’re getting so excited about.
It’s just propaganda, probably pumped out to dissuade MPs from voting down the next instalment of lockdown, or prevent the 1922 from defenestrating Johnson.
Hence why they always time the votes for Wednesday. The backlog on one voting day’s numbers went back to March!
You couldn’t make it up. Oh, they did.
CEBM give you an idea when these deaths actually occurred. This data doesn’t mean they happened yesterday. In England there were 159 yesterday, these deaths go back into Oct. The BBC always pick the scariest figure.
The chart below shows deaths by date of death, not date reported. The date reported means they save up the weekend numbers & splurge them all on Monday/Tuesday, whenever there’s a slow news day.
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/covid-19-death-data-in-england-daily-update/
Thank you.
Looks like it’s plateauing even when they’re ‘mining’ every death with a positive test.
A downward trending exponential flatline by the looks of things.
It’s unprecedented
Downward trending and function of 0? It truly is.
You’ve explained it much better than I.
Those columns though are going to grow in height as they are updated – the more so the more recent they are. Evenso, I’m expecting them to look fairly level from the 6th onwards – or only a modest increase.
And this is a critical point, the lockdown will have had no impact on those figures.
Where can I find this chart every day?
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases
It lists cases, tests, healthcare, deaths. If you go to the charts you can highlight on the chart & select the dates you want.
Thanks for that. I’ve just worked out what you mean by highlighting. Very useful.
A couple of days earlier there was a drop of 300 – who knows? that could have been the biggest drop for six months. It’s silly to get excited about day’s figures. Besides which they didn’t all happen yesterday – they just got reported.
Here’s the latest hospital admissions. Unless hospital admissions is going up deaths won’t go up. Any growth you see is driven by people from another part of the hospital getting tested positive, probably up to 25% from 10% in Oct. These aren’t necessarily people ill with covid but ill old people, on the edge of death who test positive. The only excess deaths are the poor sods dying at home cause they’re too scared to go to hospital.
Listening to radio 2 on the way home tonight and heard everyone’s favourite celebrity doctor, Hilary Jones, bemoaning the fact that people don’t seem to be as enthusiastic about this lockdown as the last time. He actually said “last time worked really well because had fear”.
Genius.
All I could hear in my head was the jovial voice of the doctor from The Simpsons prescribing “fear, and lots of it”.
He’s unwell.
A bad egg. Cecil B has him on ‘the list’ just below Wanksock and Pfeffel.
To be fair, if any of us guys were named “Hilary” we’d have an axe to grind
Is there a European country worth visiting for a 4 day city break? From my own research, only Latvia looks worthwhile but it is depends on the R rate here before they allow entry. Estonia want a test / isolation period and the Nordic countries (minus Sweden) have shut the pubs (I think)…..
Lisbon, but I am not sure of UK return, its OK to get into Portugal from UK.
Quarantine when back unfortunately, but thanks
Portugal has order of magnitude less ‘cases’ and deaths per million than UK, senseless.
Good analysis of the programme being rolled out to ensure mass vaccination goes ahead without criticism.
Cyber War declared in US and UK to quash vaccine hesitancy as Nations prepare for Mass Inoculations.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/cyber-war-declared-u-s-u-k-vaccine-hesitancy-prepare-mass-inoculations/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=85227058-d7bf-4222-89c9-d93879f6c617
It really is scary the rubbish that the psychopaths in power come out with. Governments their related agencies have been the biggest source of lies and disinformation this year. They are desperate to push their annual vaccinations for all, it will start at the Covid vaccine then the lobbyists will start on the next one, irrespective if it does any good.
“I would go beyond calling anti-vaxxers conspiracy theorists to say they are an extremist group that pose a national security risk.” He then stated that “once someone has been exposed to one type of conspiracy it’s easy to lead them down a path where they embrace more radical world views that can lead to violent extremism,”
I would suggest a radical extremist view is to forcefully vaccinate people for something with a near 100% survival rate unless you are very old or have other health problems.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/
I can see why the government doesn’t like the site. It actually takes the side of ordinary people rather than big business. Conservatives and Labour seem to see big pharma as the ‘victim’ of a few people not wanting to have their product forced on them.
Yes, people can be so beastly to big Pharma.
That’s a very detailed article!
An observation.
There are now almost 16,000 Covid patients in hospital.
When there was that same number back in April there were over 2,800 in mechanical ventilation beds now there is less than half that number.
What’s the explanation?
They are just positive test results
This shows you the proportion of patients (from NHS data) that were already in hospital when ‘admitted’ as a covid patient. No one will say these are all nosocomial cases but a big chunk are. You need to play their game & understand when the data is telling you the opposite of what is reported.
Ventilators kill, so I am rather surprised that they got rid of so many.
erm, well (waving hands), we continue to protect the NHS, and our world beating test and trace blah blah. no minister answer the question. Just then you need a big cannon with a very heavy lead ball in it to open fire.
dePiffle tests negative but continues to hide.
WTF???
Coward!!!!!
It was always about a fortnight off
What another one??
He’s a slacker
He can spend the rest off and most of it should be in jail.
Continuing yesterday’s report from leafleting in Wimbledon.
Met lady who knows it’s all rubbish, didn’t want to talk, no it’s all lies, bitter bitter bitter. Kept her talking.
Gradually discovered that she’s Hungarian but escaped 40 years ago. At first loved it here, it was a beautiful place, wonderful. Watched Britain sink and sink. Next week leaving for ever. Feels sorry for us. Says that the BBC/Britain are still respected overseas for truthfulness, that others don’t yet realise ….. omg ….and that’s what the PTB are exploiting (PTB = powers that be)
Meanwhile she knows many Italians, and they have been especially targeted to cover their faces and suppress their emotions because they are known to be so expressive. Evil evil evil.
(In the same manner Reiner Fuellmich says Germans were massively targeted for compliance because of their reputation to be orderly and sensible).
Says of Hungary that Viktor Orban is playing a canny game as best he can. Mostly supported by people there. He says that people want jobs not state payouts. Says the official Opposition are terrible – far more terrible than our opposition, and that the MSM and govs only talk to the Opposition.
By the end of the conversation she’d switched from bitter acceptance to a bit of fightback, accepted some of my leaflets for her friends.
………………………..
Later I stopped off at a skateboard park and went to chat to two of the young lads. Lovely young men. Asked them what they thought about masks. One had heard that they can cause bacterial pneumonia – yes I said and elaborated …. the other lad at this point removed his mask! Then I asked them about lockdown and the economy.. They said that doesn’t the gov want tax income?
But from their own point of view they’d not really thought about it, so I asked if they wanted to go to the pub when they were adults, have a job, get married, have children – and yes they said they want all those things. So then they wanted to know why the gov is doing this. Talked about Amazon getting all the business, so that made a lot of sense to them. I said they need to get onto social media, that they have more power than they think. So far so good – and they also asked about my leaflet, and where it was from, and if I actually spent my day going round and speaking to people.
So all this went well – but then I started to get upset for them, and this wasn’t a good look and they lost interest. But it shows the potential there is with this age group, if we could wake them up. Too bad the church-goers who used years ago to go out among the young have all basically retired behind their masks. I don’t think it would take a lot to turn the tide with them, though rather more than me all by myself.
However …. even if the churches have so far proved useless, UsForThem are going to start work with parents, leaflets etc and talking one-to-one to their fellow parents. Any parents/grandparents of school children here who want to join the campaign against masks in schools do get in touch with them.
Great work Rosie.
I take my hat off to you Rosie.
Ta Darryl & Liam – I discovered an unexpected ability for this, and actually enjoyed it, last year when I went canvassing for the Brexit Party.
I intend to go to St Pancras Station / British Library in the morning, about 10.30 if anyone wants to join me and take lessons from a pro, lol !!
Rosie you’re an inspiration and an absolute star!
The BBC have long talked up Orban’s imminent political demise…they werevery disappointed when he won his third consecutive landslide victory! Orban is smart. He knows how to take on the Globalists and beat them at their own game. I was impressed that he takes time out to read and his reading included Yuval Noah Harari – a brilliant observer of history and our age. One of Harari’s themes is “bad bargains that look good initially”. It seems like we have another on offer now: “We the State and our friends in Big Pharma will make sure you and your family won’t die from this deadly virus if you agree to follow a few simple rules. Just sign here. Don’t bother about the small print.”
Thanks, interesting…. “bad bargains that look good initially”.
yes
Mask resisters fighting off enforcers in a Sainsbury:
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1328785389084086275?s=19
Mental. Those mask fascists. Bastards. Good on the fighty beardy bloke.
Not that young, but waded straight in to great effect, a wonderful example to us all.
Context?!
the fact that they are dragging him inside rather than outside suggests that it is not a mask issue … more likely security wanting to detain him for some other offence.
I thought it looked more serious than a mask issue.
SO is this the cafe of kh1485? https://www.kimstea.com/ do you think?
It looks absolutely wonderful, just my favourite type of place
Yes it looks wonderful. I love traditional cafes and tea shops. Hope I can pop in there at some point when this madness is eventually over.
I know. In part it’s the thought of the party we will have that motivates me to keep going. My carrot as well as the stick of the horrors they have planned for us.
Lovely hollyhocks (flowers) – I have been growing some from seeds. Takes me back to a lovely holiday when we visited Île-d’Aix (not my blog…but good photo)
https://www.sailblogs.com/member/greydove/231163
Hollyhocks were invented in Saffron Walden.
Correct I have met kh1485 and she and her business partner are sound, but if I can help, please contact me. I live nearby docross@clara.co.uk
Many thanks. I’ll pass this on to the lady in question immediately.
Bookmarked – for summer (God willing).
Once Saffron Walden stops being insane, KH1485’s cafe is on our visit list. Perhaps in the spring.
Hollyhocks are my favourite flower. like you say theanalyst, I used to go to the Ile-d-Oleron for hoidays and they are everywhere there. Very nice
I might visit next year if things ever improve.
Forgive me for butting in. But I find myself imagining how kh1485 might feel about this. It might make her anxious, if this is indeed her cafe. I think it should be up to her whether she makes her business this recognisable on the site.
Just to be clear: I have no idea if this is in fact her cafe. I don’t live anywhere near and have no knowledge of the area. I don’t know kh1485 or have any relation to her, as far as I know.
See down thread. She’s already told people her business and talks about it all the time. That’s how I knew where it was.
I understand Johnson has tested negative but is continuing to self isolate. Why?
Because those are the rules for everyone else so doing otherwise would provoke complete rebellion.
But they’re not the rules!
But they are! If you are contacted by trap and trace you are required to self-isolate regardless of any test results. That’s bone of the most ridiculous things among thousands to choose from.
I cannot understand, for the life of me, why anyone would have the app on their phone. I also cannot understand why anyone would want to get a test. Bonkers, completely bonkers.
Get two weeks at home on full pay.
You don’t get full pay. That’s the problem!
I thought certain people did.
Me neither. But there’s no potential enforcement via the app. It’s only if you get a call from T&T and they tell you to isolate. Imagine checkups are limited, but many people will have enough fear of the fines to go along with it broadly
I think there is a line. On one side of the line, people who who have a basic trust in the state and who have therefore always obeyed the law, and respected, if not always followed to the letter, sub-legal guidance issued by the state (eg encouragement to vaccinate children). I was on that side of the line. Crossing over is something most reasonably fortunate people in a liberal democracy will never do. It takes an outrage against one’s rights, welfare, wellbeing. An experience of the state’s negligence or sadism such that the state starts to look like an aggressor, an abuser, a tyrant; or a sleep-walker with a knife. Once you’ve crossed the line, any cooperation with the state is easy to withhold; why help one’s tormentor? But most people still seem yet to cross that line. That’s a major part of our problem.
Alethea – I’d really like to talk to you. Love your insights. I’d feel privileged if you would contact me. This is my website’s contact page.
https://www.beautyandthebeastlytruth.com/contact-us
I’ve ‘crossed the line’ for sure and from being at a couple of protests recently and video footage can see the state definately being the aggressor!
An interesting question to ask people is ‘do you think the government/parliament are there to make decisions in your best interests?” I think there is a dividing line between those who have every confidence in the state to make decisions for them; and those who see that decisions are made to maintain their party, the status quo, and potentially other commercial and global nefarious organisations.
“there is a dividing line between those who have every confidence in the state to make decisions for them; and those who see that decisions are made to maintain their party, the status quo, and potentially other commercial and global nefarious organisations.”
And there’s my category, who basically wouldn’t trust the people who represent the state at any level to sit the right way on a lavatory, and see no reason to take their nonsense seriously unless directly coerced.
No. My son tested negative after a colleague was positive and the text said he could go back to work.
Had he previously been told to isolate by T&T or did the impetus to get a test come from his employers?
These are the rules
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/testing-and-tracing/nhs-test-and-trace-if-youve-been-in-contact-with-a-person-who-has-coronavirus/
A friend of mine who is a carer for the learning disabled said she’d been told she should carry on working if contacted unless she had symptoms. Not that she has the app on her phone.
Because he’s a complete moron
Because he cannot lead.
Cos he’s much better at hiding than leading the country.
He can’t find a walk in fridge.
An acquaintance got stung with the T&T app thing some time early doors (round late Sep-early Oct) having known somebody close to him, who was forced to routinely test & had a positive. Smart cookie who tested +ve figured it was likely false positive, so got an immediate [private] retest, which came back negative. T&T said they didn’t really care, everyone still had to isolate anyway, because it was a ‘confirmed case’ & didn’t matter if anyone tested negative, or anything, simply the app ‘didn’t do’ negative test results anywhere in their system.
No idea if this is still the current way they work, but wouldn’t surprise me one bit.
Reposting:
Volunteers needed:
https://www.covid19assembly.org/volunteer
We have just made a number of arrangements with leading anti-lockdown groups that should see Covid19 Assembly become the leading centre for resources for such groups in the world.
This is a great opportunity to play a major part in bringing an end to lockdowns and related measures around the world. We will create and curate content targeted at various groups such as politicians, journalists and normal, everyday people.
In order to do this we need more volunteers who can either write or edit original or existing content or are interested in researching and cataloging existing material.
There are many other ways you could help such as: proof-reading, researching specific topics or finding references, researching specific sources, contacting contributors and managing their input, etc.
All levels of experience and ability are acceptable. The most important thing is enthusiasm!
If you can’t volunteer, you could help by making a small donation here.
Thanks
Covid19 Assembly
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thanks. I’ll get in touch with them
I saw it and thought of you!
Lol, thanks! I sent them a long list of things I’d like to volunteer for
Naomi Seibt on PCR to the German Parliament:
https://twitter.com/TravelLightP1/status/1328367201661882369?s=20 Subtitled.
What a STAR !!!!
Is that the right link Rosie?
Dunno. I might have miscopied but can’t check on this computer which for reasons unknown won’t show Twitter.
Wrong link,
Here without subtitles (no good to me):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmGatna0Uf4&feature=youtu.be
Thanks for that. I don’t speak German either but have it on in the background as inspiration. She’s only 19/20.
Sent it to my German-speaking friend.
Look at Ireland now. Full lockdown announced 19th Oct – but “cases” (pcr +ves) already peaked, because would be delay to take effect. Lockdown ever since, but cases now rising again. Lockdown doesn’t work.
Source:
https://twitter.com/President_MU/status/1328409973202837517
Yes, but it’s the fault of our Irish brethren for not antisocial distancing an having the audacity to visit someone’s house. You obviously need a tougher lockdown. That’ll sort you out!
I see George Hook has joined the Recovery.ie group and doing a regular podcast.
Ivor Cummins involved.
The talk show on Rte last night had some bert from Public Health on who wore a mask in the studio until he was asked a question. Then he took it off. Christ. He then said Cancel Christmas
apologies – rant coming up………..
I Hate Zoom Meetings
My wife is an adult helper at the local Guide Group and due to the current lock-down nonsense we have just spent the last hour trying and failing to get her logged in to the zoom Guide meeting they are obliged to have in this current hoo-haa. Probably our fault for being IT illiterate old fogeys in this bright new locked down IT age. But even when they work, to my mind Zoom meeting are an invention of the devil, they are a travesty of normal human interactions. I am on the Parish Council and we now have to have Parish Councils meetings via zoom, they are dreadful, a shallow hull of normal human life.
So dreadful Zoom meetings, yet another horror inflicted on us by this virus hoo-haa.
So a point to all this? next week what is left of Parliament is going to decide what is to replace this current pointless lock-down nonsense. I think we should all write to our MP’s to protest and say that the hospital figures and the ONS total death figures do not indicate that we are in any sort of Public Health emergency and that consequently we should rescind all Coroanvirus legislation and move this whole pantomime on to a more normal public health programme of guidelines, advice, cooperation and consensus. The Public Health Act 1984 was never intended to to be used for this sort of palaver and to my mind, we should all be pushing our MPs to end this legal perversion.(and at the same time save me from any more dismal miserable zoom meetings).
Some bloke I had a Zoom call with today called Zoom sales the ‘New Normal’ and kept a straight face. I told him the last 2 decent business deals I sealed were in person in Germany, and we shook hands. One (new) client was from Malta and the other from Dusseldorf. One I met at an international conference (after a year of online dancing around and proof of concepts ) and the other in his own office. I’m not sure I could ‘sealed the deal on Zoom. Zoom is over rated. IMHO.
I bloody hate Zoom and everything “virtual”. Zoom University (not that we use that platform) is a joke and few of us students actually give a damn anymore.
Zoom meetings are worse for meetings you actually want to go to but better for ones you don’t because you can leave the camera off, put yourself on mute and tune out.
In a regular meeting your entertainment options were limited to inspecting the ceiling tiles for defects and arguing with your coworkers.
University however is supposed to be fun and by rights you should have been spared all this shit for a few more years.
All true , I’ve had to unfortunately stop girl guiding ( Brownies) not so much due to IT meetings- more that it is a total travesty to not meet properly. Our unit in its wisdom ( expenses to meet etc) also expects parents to pay full subs
For a less than experience- needless to say the unit is now only a few girls. I just could not in all conscience pretend that all is ok
Don’t apologise. Please keep going!
But even when they work, to my mind Zoom meeting are an invention of the devil, they are a travesty of normal human interactions. I am on the Parish Council and we now have to have Parish Councils meetings via zoom, they are dreadful, a shallow hull of normal human life.
So dreadful Zoom meetings, yet another horror inflicted on us
Too right. All part of the dehumanising agenda.
I call them Doom meetings
I have given an ‘uptick’ to you but I would like to present the other side, so to speak.
On Friday last and Monday (yesterday) I hosted two Zoom meetings to read through an old manuscript written in Greek and Latin. Friday was for Latin and Monday was for Greek. The meetings went very well as I was able to share my screen and then enlarge and reduce the manuscript writing. Everyone enjoyed the meeting very much.
Tomorrow, there will be another such meeting hosted this time by a professor at Oxford University.
What I am getting at is that there is a place for such meetings and it is likely that they will continue even after we get back to normal, a consummation devoutly to be wished.
However, though I would like to continue such meetings there is NOTHING to replace a face-to-face meeting in person. In addition to the Zoom meetings I would like to hold ‘social meetings’ or even conventional lessons AS WELL AS the ‘virtual’ meetings, but because of this evil government I cannot. We actually need BOTH types of meeting.
Next month I usually host a ‘Mulled Wine and Mince Pies’ party for about 15 – 20 people, nothing really special or extraordinary. But I can’t do that now.
A pox and a murrain on Johnson and his vile crew and every single one the 611 disgusting and repulsive MPs who voted for this imposition, with knobs on.
I hate zoom too. My church uses it and it feels like a mockery of the real thing.
My entire extended family has been doing bi weekly Zoom ‘get togethers’ ever since March.
Ol’ dark horse of the family here has not participated in one of them. I feel no connection unless people are in the room with me. Zoom can piss off and my extended family are all covid cult members so I’m not missing out on a thing!
The only place virtual meetings are useful is the monthly buzzword-filled company update meeting. I turn the sound way down, put myself on mute, and get some actual work done while the speakers ramble on about sustainability and “leveraging capabilities” and “thought leadership”. Pointless for anything else.
This is from https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases the 7 day moving average for positive cases expressed per 100,000 of population.
Listening to the NHS or ministers or the sodding BBC would you have thought it was this flat? No smoke & mirrors just drill in to the chart & this is what it shows.
Have you sent this to Toby?
I can never navigate to these views – any chance of an idiot’s guide please?
Just put your cursor in the top left of the date range you want. Hold the left click button down & drag to the bottom right at the end of the range. The defined range will appear.
Got it. Thanks!
Just plateauing.
We are up against completely unaccountable big tech censorship. Zuckerberg avoiding giving a straight answer to any question, apparently he knows next to nothing about what goes on in his company. At least he is forced to admit that employees frequently access users personal account information and messages and they work in tandem with other big tech companies.
BREAKING: Josh Hawley Uncovers SECRET Facebook Content Monitoring…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBJx9kqa9bc&feature=youtu.be
there are a few associated vids from the same hearings with other senators calling out facebook and twitter around censorship etc .
Zuckerberg is all for sharing – hey who cares about privacy, sharing is caring! except when it comes to himself; he bought the 4 houses around his residence. to guarantee his privacy!
I am a Chartered Accountant (ICAEW). ICAEW was formed in 1880 to secure trust in business and that remains their mission.
So I reckon to understand why this is happening to us it helps to follow the money. It is always about money. Lots of people are making it. Big time.
Here is yet another example of money making exposed, courtesy of the BBC.
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-54974373
People need ideally to stop complying and enabling this corruption. Now.
How? A few suggestions would be welcome.
That is a good question Banjones.
I wish I had the answer….but I don’t. I do not understand at all how this society accepts the restrictions so easily, other than the majority are being paid off financially.
Lacking effective leadership in the UK is probably the biggest problem.
In the old days politicians would have gained Kudos from listening and changing their behavior….and challenging their peers….but now they all fu*king agree for reasons I have not yet figured.
Get a leaflet and get out there talking to people. They are ready to listen. Have a slip of paper with links for different protest groups – here, StandupX, SaveOurRights.
Here’s a leaflet ready for you. I find it works well
Get them talking and then hand it over, picture folded inside. I got 6000 printed for £60.
https://www.beautyandthebeastlytruth.com/post/covid-rules-sayno-use-this-to-print-your-own-leaflet
Thanks Rosie -My granddaughter Rosie shares your lovely name!
Ah, thank you…
and I love growing roses as well
Really can’t wait for the win …and seeing everyone …. and our joy and music and dancing and life to begin again
We can dream.
And to think little community groups were sewing masks during March, egged on by the virtue obsessed.
All the while Gonzalez del Mucho Dinero was getting £21m for promising our government something he didn’t have.
Lol – Gonzalez del Mucho Dinero was on top of his game!
The Torygraph is reporting that household mixing is to be banned after December 2nd to “save Christmas” as if people are taking notice of them or something.
It can be Tier One Million and I’ll be doing what I want
‘Save Christmas’. Wow, they really are mentally ill, those people.
Bloody grim reading. They are just not going to give up. A Why TF do they always consult that scumbag Fergusson?
Neil Ferguson, the Teflon man? I can only imagine he has compromising photos of Boris and Handcock.
HC and PNN
Looks like it’ll be Tier 2 for all then, not that many are still complying.
Yeah. I’m going to see my niece tomorrow….It is essential. She was 18 yesterday and is visiting my 22 yo daughter. I will see her at my daughters house. My grandchild will also be there. Looking forward to it. I will give my niece a card and present. She will probably let me hug her. Fuck off Tories.
It’s already banned and has been banned in some parts of the country since March, pretty much.
Anyway the current lockdown is supposed to be saving Christmas isn’t it! WHEN WILL PEOPLE START TO SEE THROUGH THIS!!
Do you think their new zeal for lockdowns is connected to the fact that Amazon Sweden was launched less than a month ago? Amazon must make a lot of money from lockdowns.
“More than 70,000 excess deaths during the pandemic” screams the BBC and then goes on to effectively imply this is primarily due to Covid-19.
But this is, unsurprisingly, misleading.
Using ONS data, 37,643 deaths were attributed to Covid-19 in hospital between March 7 and Nov 6, so you would assume a large amount of excess deaths here right? Er, wrong. There have been just 5649.
In contrast, deaths in the home are now 32,681 above the 5-year average, of which just 2,759 are attributed to Covid-19.
Even after putting care homes into the mix, the data still clearly shows that there has been a much greater number of excess deaths due to other causes in comparison to Covid.
But the BBC seem to have missed this.
Do you have a source for these data, Draper233? I was starting to get a bit of traction on FB with a lefty friend of a friend and would love to show him these figures.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending6november2020
You can actually download the spreadsheet data
I listened to a burst of BBCR4 and the Today program, they were talking to a couple of people who’s elderly relatives died in care homes due to neglect in lockdown, Winifred was all emotional, so were the callers.
It has only taken the bastard BBC 7 months to talk about this.
Deliberate neglect
Nice to see Richard Tice getting our message out about the P C R test to his 70 odd thousand followers on Twitter .Also Guido Fawkes getting more and more abuse for questioning Tice on his site .If anyone can spare a moment go and support Tice so it all gets even more attention .
Very Appropriate – people need to wake up and stop complying….or the bigger fish win.
Please can Lockdown Skeptics look into the ingredients of proposed vaccines? Is is true for instance that aborted baby parts are used or is this fake news/conspiracy theory?
One piece of good news. Jeremy Corbyn has been re-admitted to the Labour Party.
He will no doubt repeat his anti-Semitic remarks (he is, after all, a man of principal, albeit deranged). Should help to split the Labour Party for years to come!
What, precisely, were those remarks?
I can get enough mindless received crap by just listening to BBC News.
Corbyn’s only crime was apologizing too much. He wasn’t anti-Semitic before and he isn’t now. We should know by now that most of what the mainstream media spews out is nonsense.
OK, so the odds seem to be moving towards conspiracy?:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/11/17/people-have-covid-vaccine-could-get-qr-codes-allowing-access/#comment
‘People who have Covid vaccine could get QR codes allowing them access to major events’Political conversation’ about proposal that would potentially enable people to attend large gatherings currently deemed high-risk’
Discriminatory, a massive erosion of civil liberties and possibly dangerous to our health. But, hey, only this virus matters now, right!? We must observe the new national religion Covid. Including the rituals, whether they be clapping, masking up or pointless, costly, potentially dangerous and unwanted vaccinations.
I almost dare them to do it. Wanna see just how Nazi they want to go…
Except that they will barely be able to operate a smart phone after their DNA has been totally fucked up. A major event for them will be remembering to sit on the toilet to take a shit.
Something to look forward to. We’ll be able to smell the nanoparticle vaccinated before we see them. Eau de Bill & Melinda
On the plus side our government are so fucking moronic that they may struggle to put together such a sophisticated system. Can Pratt Hand Cock even tie his own shoelaces, never mind organise such a database?
They’re clearly teasing their plans.
Thank you for your replies earlier, I really do appreciate it. Everything just feels worthless now but you are a great support. I don’t know what I’ll do after Zoom University ends in May but we just might still win this.
Stick with us! While you’re here you are DEFINITELY not ”worthless”!
Thanks, everything just feels so empty and meaningless now. But there are still some causes for optimism.
Keep fighting the good fight DRW !
I think you should cause some mayhem. You’re a student and you and your mates should play merry hell. I know you’ve posted a lot here and have indicated that you are suffering mentally and for that I hope you have support, but you’re a student. Where are all you guys in the resistance? My creaking joints find it difficult to man barricades these days but I still went to a local-ish demo a couple of Saturdays ago and I don’t reckon in the couple of thousand people there there were more than 5% under the age of 25. When I was a student a bomb was placed in a lift on campus. I’m not advocating that, it was a sugar bomb (hardly lethal) and a stupid protest but there was much more unrest then and the threat from the authorities/establishment nothing like it is today. You have your whole life to fight for, we were just larking about and knew we had any job we wanted (more or less) at the end of it. Fifteen years later in the middle of the miners’ strike I was teaching at a university in the north west of England. I asked one of my really promising students why there was so little unrest and – in the north west! – such a lack of support from the students for the miners. He said to me: ‘I just want to get my head down and get my 2:1.’ Where are the NUS in this for pity’s sake, pissing about with woke things? The NUS was radical fifty years ago, shake them up. Look up the Angry Brigade. I’m not advocating violence, I’m really not, what those people did was beyond anything civilised, and I’m not advocating anything illegal, but you have many more grievances than the Angry Brigade did. Massive civil disobedience DRW. Mobilise your mates.
Thanks. I have the odd contact with fellow students, they aren’t enjoying this but are just bored with it all.
https://www.thinkscotland.org/thinkpolitics/articles.html?read_full=14336
Another article by the excellent Linda Holt
Thanks for sharing. This article hits the nail on the head, there is no push back from the so called opposition parties in Scotland. The death rate here is just 0.09%, hardly worth imprisoning and destroying the lives of the entire population for.
The harder the government and MSM push the narrative, the more obvious their lies become, to steadily increasing numbers of people. Casual alternative speculation from the past 8 months is becoming government policy and MSM talking points at a bewildering rate.
Has the state got the guts, the ability or the resources to really go for broke and choose the hard totalitarian crackdown path (which I believe they will have to at some point)? In some respects I dare them to, because once that Rubicon is crossed I think our total victory will be assured.
I think they might have to go there sooner rather than later while the compliant and apathetic are still in the majority and can be relied upon to collude. I’m hoping they’ll leave it too late.
Yes, it struck me today how quickly everything is moving. As you say, they have to get a move on before people begin to get too savvy and get over confident, and while they still believe in the Magic Potion, that it’ll be an answer to everything, and before too much negativity begins to circulate.
“Hopeful people are more easily controlled, but the volume must be managed. Too much hope leaves a person emboldened and resistant. Too little leaves them disabled and useless. But just the right amount of hope subjugates them. They cradle it like a dying ember, and they’ll do anything to keep the wind from extinguishing it……”
That describes it perfectly.
It’s a given that a majority will be queueing up for the death shot. The crackdown will only be needed for us. And I believe our will is much stronger than that of the so-called oppressors. Nazis or Soviets they most certainly are not.
I’m hoping by the time us youngsters would be in the crosshairs there will have been enough side effects from enough people to force a withdrawal. Unless the ultra-zealous collaborators running my university who have undoubtedly signed it up as a vax site decide they want to get ahead of the game.
Then you can politely explain that even being threatened with deadly force will not be enough. If this happens to me, I will create such a kerfuffle that the soldier will have no option other than to shoot me dead on the spot.
As I’m not ever willingly visiting my horrible campus again they can’t force it if they tried. The worst they can do is kick me out but I will take that.
Cheers to my fellow martyr in waiting. I too plan to get a serious kerfuffling going and then a nice instant death from multiple bullets will be my final outcome.
No danger of it getting to you by May.
Concur.
Especially the vaccination issue.
The opposed NHS group and Ticketmaster reaction suggest that might be harder than anticipated. Hence why they’re desperate to roll it out as soon as possible before too much opposition sets in.
Yes.
All measures so far are superficially plausible to mainstream Joe and Jill.
Eventually they will have to do something which reveals openly that is is a naked power grab.
You’d think that blackmailing people into taking a rushed-through vaccine might ring a few alarm bells, wouldn’t you?
If they go full on totalitarian, there will be plenty of people who’ll remember being tested positive and who had a sniffle or who felt fit as a fiddle and the penny will drop. Soldiers with machine guns for a sniffle. The sound of tens of millions of pennies dropping
From the Speccie: Matt Hancock has said that at least 43 new NHS clinics will be dedicated to helping those suffering from long Covid-19, a number which is currently estimated to be around 60,000 people.
Have there been any proper studies that debunk (or prove!) the long Covid phenomenon, other than the ‘self certifying’ studies?
There are 67 million Long Covid sufferers in the UK. No prizes for guessing the symptoms or the causes.
It is an affliction of largely middle class metropolitan women who work as teachers, nurses or in the charity sector.
Are you suggesting, by any chance, that a lot of them will be called Karen?
Exactly and probably a similar demographic to the ones who have fibromyalgia or ME. Working class women can’t afford the luxury of this kind of malingering.
I’ve a friend in her 80s with fibromyalgia. She still runs a business.It is a very painful condition and all too real.
I’ve had Long Covid for at least ten years before it became fashionable. I never realised I was such a trend setter
There’s a hell of a lot more people that are going to be suffering from Long Lockdown Syndrome.
A decent summary by a doctor, here:
What is long covid?
“First, long covid is rare. Around one in fifty people still have symptoms at the twelve week mark, and since the number with symptoms dropped significantly at one, two, and three months, it is likely that the reduction continues after twelve weeks, and that it is a tiny fraction who still have symptoms at six months.”
I thought it was “hundreds of thousands” of sufferers the other day.
As for evidence… no more than people who tested positive then reporting long term issues, as far as I know. Anything anyone says seems to be faithfully added to the list of possible effects. I’m sure people who had serious illness will take a while to recover, especially if intubated or in ICU, as you would for any other serious illness. But I think even people who had no symptoms from the initial “illness” are deemed to suffer Long Covid too.
Presumably these clinics are only for people suffering post viral illness from covid. From any other illness – go away, it’s not important.
It seems just one poorly conducted study mentioned here and given prominence in the ‘Guardian.’
https://sebastianrushworth.com/2020/11/17/what-is-long-covid/
What about boring old long flu etc? No post viral syndromes existed before now of course.
Especially for DRW. This is why we are going to win. Excellent bedtime listening for all.
What we need to do is turn the tide of public opinion, one person at a time.
And remind people in positions of responsibility of their duty of care, which operates regardless of what latest malign rules and guidelines are proposed by the government. Headteachers imposing masks in schools without doing a risk assessment? Wouldn’t like to be in their shoes a year from now.
Dr Reiner Fuellmich and colleagues.
Here’s the video of the formal hearing to the corona committee concerning the PCR test. It’s their final hearing, so I understand from the earlier videos.
Last week, two UK scientists Dr. Mike Yeadon (a former CSO at Pfizer company) and Dr. Clare Craig (an NHS pathologist) gave their evidence concerning the UK’s Testing programme to the Corona Committee. The video of this can be seen here:
https://youtu.be/kANkpqtWLN4
this is Fuellmich speaking to a Spanish interviewer a few days ago. Legal actions to begin next week, starting with the relatively small fry. Need to educate the public, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPd5l2ekdu4&feature=youtu.be
Background summary:
Corona Ausschuss (Committee) is lawyers and esp. Reiner Füllmich, interviewing witnesses at length. > 25 sittings many four hours or longer. Some broadcasts censored. They are closely associated with the new DieBasis political party. Preparing prosecutions.
ACU2020 is medical people and scientists, separate group of people with similar name in German. They publish video interviews and some good text. They also organise events, with protesters being addressed. They have not yet replied to my request to send them my book (they warn of legal action against those sending spam or unsolicted material).
Robert Kennedy Junior has connections to both groups. He will be heading the prosecutions in the USA for fraud (PCR tests) and possibly crimes against humanity (as part of child protection group).
Reiner Fuellmich:
https://soundcloud.com/ulf-bittner/dr-reiner-fuellmich-about-crimes-against-humanity-and-corona-fraud-2020-10-20 from about a month ago with Swedish interviewer.
https://youtu.be/XQYzb5_kax8 from a week ago, Dutch interviewer
This is mentioned in the very important paper by Sebastian Friebel at ACU2020:
https://veritasliberabitvos.info/appeal/
More detail of the background:
1.This group might have been the first to get itself organised https://www.mwgfd.de/ Mediziner und Wissenschaftler für Gesundheit, Freiheit und Demokratie, e.V.
= Physicians and scientists for health, freedom and democracy, eV
It includes Prof. Dr.med. Sucharit Bhakdi’s videos which he does in excellent English, albeit speaking slowly. IDK if there are transcripts.
2. REPORT ON THE CORONA SITUATION April 15, 2020
By Dr. med. Gunter Frank
http://www.klasseverantwortung.de/english/Corona.html towards the bottom of the page. Extremely critical of the Robert-Koch Institute (RKI) which initially stopped autopsies on the basis that they were too dangerous to perform on covid patients. Dr Frank’s conclusion is the same as the Great Barrington Declaration – “Here, to close, my personal conclusion: Stop the shutdown immediately, and at long last protect the groups at risk professionally.”
Part 2
3. The Stephan Kohn story/KM4 report
https://dailysceptic.org/analysis-by-a-senior-official-at-the-german-ministry-of-the-interior/
The author of the leaked document, which was written on April 15th, is Stephan Kohn, a senior civil servant in the KM4 section of the Ministry of the Interior, which is tasked with the protection of essential infrastructure.
4. By October 2020 there are two main organisations campaigning against govt policy [this info is probably correct, it’s very hard to follow and mostly in German which I don’t speak].
One is Stiftung Corona Aussschuss https://corona-ausschuss.de/
composed of lawyers and judges. It has countless hours of hearings. i.e. interviews of expert witnesses on many subjects. A video summarizing where they are in German, 1 October 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5NsnjyWhqo
With Dr. Reiner Fuellmich (who looks so tired). About one hour. Plans to bring various establishment players to court in the USA, Canada and Germany on charges of fraud (like Volkswagen, but obviously much bigger). Plans to prosecute German politicians at The Hague for crimes against humanity.
In English Dr. Reiner Fuellmich’s – Crimes Against Humanity
For 26 years, Dr Reiner Fuellmich has been a lawyer in Germany and California. He’s one of four members of the German Corona Investigative Committee. On October 3 (or 12) 2020, he describes how there is no legal doubt about the possibility of a class-action lawsuit against those responsible for the lockdowns. Even more damning evidence. Reiner says the Rothschild family patented fake positive result Covid-19 tests years ago. Dr. Reiner is now preparing one of the largest damage lawsuits in history against the perpetrators of this fraud. Video & transcript.
https://theanp.co.uk/page-1075459
The other major organisation in Germany is
Außerparlamentarischer Corona Untersuchungsausschuss
ACU2020 https://acu2020.org/
which is composed of medical doctors and scientists. The ACU speakers (Schöning, Schiffmann, Haditsch) invite the experts and witnesses to public evidence.
“Better Normal, not New Normal” is their slogan (though it’s uncomfortably close to ‘build back better’).
The German Corona Extra-Parliamentary Inquiry Committee (Außerparlamentarischer Corona Untersuchungsausschuss) . There is – or was – a video of Dr Heiko Schöning, medical doctor in Hamburg, being seized by stormtroop-like police (TSG = Territorial Support Group) at Speakers’ Corner, Hyde Park, to be held incommunicado 22 hours and have his laptop, smartphone and a book confiscated. He refused to let them take his marriage ring! Some key videos etc. are being suppressed.
There was a not dissimilar incident Markus Haintz – German Lawyer arrested with appalling police overkill at Alexanderplatz Berlin Sunday 25 October. He was walking along hand-in-hand with his girlfriend, who was also mistreated and arrested.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/isd38bIffT2T/
World Doctors Alliance
https://worlddoctorsalliance.com/blog/crimes-against-humanity-the-german-corona-investigation/
‘initiated October 10, 2020 when Dr. Heiko Schoning of ACU2020 (along with Drs. Bodo Schiffmann, Martin Haditsch and lawyer Dr. Reiner Fuellmich) launched the World Doctors Alliance, plus Prof. Dolores Cahill from Ireland and Dr. Mohammad Adil from England. They also have a banker on board, a former Goldman Sachs employee.’
https://www.worlddoctorsalliance.com/
part 3 (some of these links already censored I think)
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Lord Sumption calling out the British gov’s actions as unconstitutional, etc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amDv2gk8aa0
https://resources.law.cam.ac.uk/privatelaw/Freshfields_Lecture_2020_Government_by_Decree.pdf
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This site is trying to keep track of what’s happening https://www.europereloaded.com/how-to-become-part-of-dr-reiner-fuellmichs-class-action-suit/
8 October: “We got in touch with the German law firm of Dr. Reiner Fuellmich via his website http://www.fuellmich.com / Kontakt (contact) and left a message in English.
On his site, you’ll see this German announcement: Wir beraten und unterstutzen aktiv die Aktivitaten zu der Corona Schadensersatzklage. Which translates as: We actively advise and support the activities regarding the Corona claim for damages. https://www.corona-schadensersatzklage.de/ Which translates as ‘Corona action for damages’.
They replied that they themselves are only representing German clients, but plan to publish names of lawyers and law firms internationally who will be taking part in legal action for redress against the corona measures.
5. Margareta Griesz-Brisson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd22FGeuyog
https://www.technocracy.news/german-neurologist-on-face-masks-oxygen-deprivation-causes-permanent-neurological-damage/
The most terrifying criticism of masks – damage to every organ in the body. Permanent lowered IQ for young people. Triggers dementia for ten years time.
6. Ines Kappstein
Prof. Dr. med. Medizinstudium in Freiburg….
https://www.thieme-connect.com/prod
So immunity is long lasting, just as the likes of Wolfgang Wodarg were saying at the start.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/17/health/coronavirus-immunity.html
Something you would be censored for saying before now. But will they apologise? No.
It’s simple – it wasn’t necessarily longlasting when they needed to argue against herd immunity, but it is longlasting when they need to promote vaccine use.
“OVID 19, and the subsequent governmental responses, appear to be part of an international conspiracy to commit fraud. It seems there is no evidence that a virus called SARS-CoV-2 causes a disease called COVID 19.”
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“In the U.S. the Centre For Disease Control (CDC) RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel state:
Last updated on 13th July 2020, the CDC are yet to obtain any pure viral sample from any patient said to have the disease of COVID-19. They openly admit their tests don’t necessarily show if SARS-CoV-2 is either present or causes COVID 19.”
https://off-guardian.org/2020/11/17/covid19-evidence-of-global-fraud/
“OVID 19” is a great neologism in any case !
A poetic pandemic, now that would be something I’d enjoy!
If you have Long Ovid do you undergo a metamorphosis?
You become a Juvenal delinquent.
I may have to impose Martial law here to end this classical punning.
‘Martial law’
Bringing us down to earth – right back to the present situation.
You could even say … bringing us Homer.
This type of article would probably not have been published in medical press earlier but now in an an ordinary scientific paper. There are signs that this taboo has been broken and more people interested. This together with the Italian study finding widespread SarsCov in Italy Aug-Sept is also a sign in the right direction about the origin of this pandemic.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/bies.202000240
The genetic structure of SARS‐CoV‐2 does not rule out a laboratory originSARS‐COV‐2 chimeric structure and furin cleavage site might be the result of genetic manipulation
On a related topic, did you see this withdrawn paper? The title is enough
to raise an eyebrow.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v2
Found the original.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full
Given we are now learning about DNA viruses I guess you couldn’t rule out a vaccine experiment that went wrong.
Not the first to make the error! Viruses = vaccines.
Are bars open on campsites?
No idea, but there’s one in my flat that’s always open. A.k.a. the refrigerator.
Just needs a name eg “The Prince Harry” – used to be fun but now implies dependency.
Currently on Burton Brewery Tower IPA, very drinkable.
Fourpure Shapeshifter West Coast IPA for me this evening.
“Whenever we check the so-called unique genetic markers for SARS-CoV-2, recorded in the WHO protocols, we find complete or high percentage matches with various fragments of the human genome. This suggests that the genetic sequences, which are supposed to identify SARS-CoV-2, are not unique. They could be anything from microbial sequences to fragments of human chromosomes.”
https://off-guardian.org/2020/11/17/covid19-evidence-of-global-fraud/
This is a person with a rare immunosuppressive disease getting C-19 and the virus persist and also an evolution of the virus in the patient surprising scientists. This type of virus evolution is of course a night mare for vaccine producers.
https://twitter.com/AntGDuarte/status/1326687092072734720
“Accelerated viral evolution in an immunocompromised patient? This sure sounds a lot like the Mojiang miners passage hypothesis”
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2031364?query=featured_coronavirus
“Although most immunocompromised persons effectively clear SARS-CoV-2 infection, this case highlights the potential for persistent infection5 and accelerated viral evolution associated with an immunocompromised state”
I’ve read before that the virus mutates in every infected person. I’ve yet to get to the bottom of how scientists differentiate between mutations, variations, strains and novel viruses.
The only place it does anything (including mutate) is inside infected hosts. Outside them it’s just an inert object a bit like a seed.
Good point…but I meant to focus kn the fact that in every infected person mutations occur.
I think I’ve had enough of scientists. I just want to live my life and be free.
I agree. For every “scientific” view about Covid, there is a diametrically opposed alternative. So eff ’em. Our liberty is more important . Totally agree.
Re the earlier green debate…
1. It is not irrelevant to the lockdown debate. It is clear Globalists are using each and every weapon to hand to destroy populism and advance or re-establish elite control. They will use Covid, they will use social media, they will use concerns over the environment,
2. We need to be very careful I think to distinguish green issues, from climate change alarmism and those two areas from the XR-Greta death cult.
Regarding green issues, most sensible people favour reducing air pollution, ensuring water courses and coastal waters are clean, and preserving our flora and fauna. Indeed the love of our green and pleasant land has long been part of our patriotic tradition (it’s the Globalists who want to import another 10 million people, and concrete it over).
Green energy is a more controversial area I accept but any objective observer will soon discover that all around the world wind and solar power are winning tenders against other energy sources, without subsidy. The price-drops for wind and solar have been huge over the last 20 years and will continue. Yes, storage remains a challenge. But ultimately as the price falls further it will become economical to manufacture methane from air and water, and that is the storage problem solved.
Climate change is a legitimate concern but has become an arena of hysteria. We haven’t yet reached the heights of the Medieval Warming and yet we are given the impression we face a global disaster. Global warming is increasing rainfall and temperature and so increasing crop yields worldwide. There is no evidence of major sea level changes. By 2050 we will have abandoned fossil fuels as being too expensive compared with green energy alternatives, even with no government intervention at all. Beyond that date it’s clear that humanity can use a variety of technologies to sequester carbon if that is deemed necessary.
The XR-Greta death cult latches on to green issues but more importantly climate hysteria with a focus on the absurd idea that life on the planet will somehow die (within four years). There is no rational basis for the movement but Soros, the UN, WHO, and a range of politicians including Gove and .Johnson support or promote it. Shameful.
Agree with all that. For me, the leverage being used to coerce Davos attendees is some critical climate related prophecy. Maybe Ferguson has been testing his hand at climate modelling too. I suspect at the end though, the elephant in the room is population growth. There’s an exponential curve if ever I saw one.
Population growth is the key threat to the environment, particularly loss of habitat. Population growth has slowed dramatically in many parts of the world often in places you might not expect, like Saudi Arabia. However the UN projects the population of Africa will rise to 4 billion (!) by the end of the 21st century. Sort of thing that BBC reporters so concerned about the environment never mention. Africa is such a fertile continent that it can probably support that population but the effect on the natural environment will be devastating.
I am often bewildered by how casually fossil fuels are dismissed as if they are an easily dispensable and replaceable luxury, when in fact they are the absolute foundation of our civilisation. Without coal, oil and gas, there would have been no industry, electricity, transportation, intensive agriculture, technology and much else besides.
The fantasy of zero carbon simply means a massively reduced population living in medieval feudalism and poverty. Forget all material advances from the last 250 years.
That’s a view not backed by facts.
Japan had huge urbanisation and intensive agriculture in the late 18th century. Japan had the largest city in the world at that point – over 1 million people. Their literacy rare at that point was probably the highest in the world.
We have seen societies leap forward in prosperity with hydroelectricity. The Scandinavian countries were some of the poorest and most backward in Europe until hydroelectricity came on the scene in the 1920s and 30s.
While I wouldn’t deny fossil fuels have created a huge energy surplus, they’ve had their day. You will always have to dig or drill them out of the ground and that is inherently expensive. Meanwhile the price of green energy falls year by year. In particular there is no reason to think the price of solar won’t continue to fall for many years to come.
The largest economic power China are still building coal fired plants.Cheap energy equals cheap manufacturing.This headlong rush into renewables will destroy what is left of western manufacturing and crown China the new hegemon.
It probably would have happened anyway but we have just sped the process up.
You cannot provide for 70 million people with renewables.It will never happen and it is utopian dreaming to think it can.
I complained about BBC gender madness. This is the smug reply
“Why does the BBC want to push gender ideology and gender confusion at our children?“
The same reason it pushes coronapanic alarmism and climate alarmism and the same reason it has pushed antiracist and every variety of politically correct identity lobby ideology and the same reason it has pushed anti-British internationalism and hatred of British history, by exactly these methods, for decades.
Because the kind of people who run the BBC overwhelmingly believe that those things are right, since they fanatically believe in them, and that people who don’t believe in them are not just wrong, but bad.
They only believe these things are “right” in a formal, public sense. In their private lives, they ensure their children achieve a pretty good formal education, their friendship groups tend to be from their own ethnic group and class, their personal carbon footprint is much larger than the national average and hugely greater than the world average, their gender roles are much more traditional than their rhetoric would suggest, and they would ensure any child of theirs got a lot of expensive psychotherapy before they approved their bit being cut off or messed around with.
Interesting one. You are probably correct about the hypocrisy, but I wonder if part of the problem we face is that the older generations were hypocritical about all this – ie sensible in their actual behaviour, but over the couple of generations this has been proceeding at pace, the younger generations have become ever more brainwashed by their parents’ sanctimony.
Maybe hypocrites don’t do as much actual damage as true believers.
No, I don’t think the upper middle classes have given up on hypocrisy but with higher education a kind of sub Marxism has been absorbed -sincerely – in the lower middle classes. That’s v dangerous I think.
This is the original BBC page:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zp6ftrd
If someone else uses the wrong pronouns when referring to your friend, you might want to gently correct the person who made the mistake. You could say something like, “Actually, my friend uses ‘they’ for themselves.”
I honestly have no problem with anyone identifying as whatever gender they like. That’s all absolutely fine with me. It’s the mutilated grammar that results from avoiding all pronouns and then using the wrong ones that’s making me feel excluded here. This is not making me a safe space to share with!
A trans friend of mine: ‘I’m sick to death of politicians using my journey to score political points. FFS! Let people use whatever pronouns they like. I couldn’t give a toss’.
Imagine it said in a Lancashire accent
Good for them. I am sure most people understand what we need here is mutual respect for each other’s freedoms.
Yep their freedom to demand to be called whatever they like and my freedom to ignore them.
I have a longstanding dislike for using the plural pronoun for reasons of political correctness. In fact, for all attempts to impose language changes on others to enforce political acquiescence under the guise of supposed politeness.
I think it’s the same basic reason I won’t wear a mask to signal acquiescence to the panic.
There’s a place for basic politeness of course, but there also comes a point where imposing changes on others’ traditional usages is itself impolite.
As for gender I don’t really believe in it. There are males and females and a vanishingly small percentage who are physically in between. Then there are men pretending to be women and women pretending to be men. If they leave me alone, I’ll leave them alone.
I insist on being called “the Lord on High whose will must be obeyed at all times”. I am sure the BBC will go along with that and remind their weirdo friends, if they have any, to respect my choice of pronoun,
Today published this important paper about immunity and memory for Sars-Cov2.So Boris J shouldn’t have worried !
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.11.15.383323v1
Immunological memory to SARS-CoV-2 assessed for greater than six months after infection
“Spike IgG was relatively stable over 6+ months. Spike-specific memory B cells were more abundant at 6 months than at 1 month. SARS-CoV-2-specific CD4+ T cells and CD8+ T cells declined with a half-life of 3-5 months. By studying antibody, memory B cell, CD4+ T cell, and CD8+ T cell memory to SARS-CoV-2 in an integrated manner, we observed that each component of SARS-CoV-2 immune memory exhibited distinct kinetics.”
Yes I read this, this was very interesting, especially that the spike-specific memory Bs are actually more abundant at 6 months. You wouldn’t think you’d still be refining your immune memory that far out.
Another thing they found was a huge range in how many antibodies people ended up with after an infection (most of the people they were looking at were fairly mild cases):
Spike IgG titers were heterogenous among subjects (range 5 to 73,071; 575 median), as has been widely observed (20, 48). This gave a wide confidence interval for the spike IgG t1/2 (95% CI: 89 to 329d)
This goes some way to explaining why antibody testing is such an inexact science– huge variation in the levels of antibodies and how long they last.
https://twitter.com/FrancescoLari/status/1328742432998121472
“Italy, today hospitalizations new record. Lombardy, the most hit region, has now double the people in hospital and more than double in IC than in April. Yet Lombardy authorities are asking to be put out of the lockdown areas, as people need to work and life must go on.”
Italy has the worst air pollution levels in Europe.
And the highest rates of smoking and the greatest proportion of people over 70 in the population in Europe
And a high Chinese population (about 2%) employed in the clothing factories in Milan, Lombardy..
On an illegal basis using false papers. An EU scandal that the EU won’t even admit exists, Because false papers are being used , when someone dies they are disposed of unofficially. The workers both work and sleep in their factories. It’s slavery but of a type the WEF has no problem with. A large proportion of the workers are from the Wuhan region. The numbers are large – in the hundreds of thousands. Even at the height of the pandemic I don’t think flights with China were suspended.
Sounds like smoking and air pollution might not be the touted problem.
More on the curious case of the mysteriously vanishing influenza.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/flu-season-2020-canada-public-health-1.5804673
Yes, I’m sure in the end there will be no difference in all-cause mortality because flu will have disappeared and Covid will have taken its place. I also surmise that because uptake for the flu vaccine has been so high this year, we’ll see ICU admissions and deaths due to other respiratory viruses and Covid; the flu vaccine *may* protect from some strains of flu but makes one more susceptible to other respiratory illnesses. Unfortunately, Canadians believe the flu has disappeared because of masking, hand washing/sanitizing, anti-social distancing, etc. but haven’t figured out that those same measures should have made Covid disappear. Meanwhile people here think we should try a Melbourne-style lockdown. Give me strength…
That cannot be the case that masking and SD has reduced flu.
Sweden and Belarus have also greatly reduced flu.
Meanwhile, Cambodia with no covid fatalities but with plenty of masks has plenty of flu.
Flu went to almost zero here in South Australia over winter. No one was wearing masks.
And now you are to be locked up for 14 cases?? What’s happening?
Why yes, of course masks and SD have eliminated the flu but covid still prevails because it is MUCH MORE CONTAGIOUS than influenza – I have read people expressing this logic all day on various tweets.
Canada is a write off, don’t bother sending help when we go full tyranny
With Trudeau spouting the Build Back Better slogan we are definitely in trouble. But there are a lot of people fighting back — Vaccine Choice Canada is suing all levels of government, Stand Up Canada, Hugs Over Masks, and Parents for a Mask Free Education to name the ones I know of. Don’t write us off quite yet!
I always considered myself a law abiding citizen but I invited my friend tonight for supper and a chat and it felt so good! It’s horrible though you half fear a knock on the door. We agreed it was like Soviet Russia.We decided on ‘support bubble’ should anyone ask.
My cleaning lady told me her uncle in his 60’s died earlier in the year of covid. That’s the first death of anyone in any way connected I’ve heard of.
Neither my friend nor my cleaning lady want to be a vaccine guinea pig.
I get a feeling more East Germany than Soviet Russia.
I am a law abiding type, but my patience for following the law is rapidly running out. Too many goal posts being moving in the last few months.
Yes, with quite a bit of Cultural Revolution thrown in for food measure.
This was an interesting discussion amongst friends the other evening – it’s such a Conservative Right response of ours to feel worried about breaking a law even when we don’t agree with it.
It’s a concern the Left don’t experience! They feel if they decide it’s a bad law then it doesn’t apply to them. Let’s just do what they do!
Or just be like Antigone. If moral law is contravened by national law, national law can have no moral legitimacy.
That’s what I believe.
I must be Left then!
I’m left wing but have always been law abiding through I’ve a rebel streak in me. When I was young the law seemed to be about serious things like not stealing or murdering, not having a friend to visit!
but what will Thailand do without the tourists? Does its government buy into the great Reset or is it beginning to wake up?
A very big study in Holland about the other 4 coronaviruses.Not so good news for the vaccine if Sars-Cov2 has the same pattern.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-1083-1
Seasonal coronavirus protective immunity is short-lasting
“In our study, the months of June, July, August and September show the lowest prevalence of infections for all four seasonal coronaviruses (Fig. 1d; Wilcoxon signed-rank test, P = 0.004), confirming the higher prevalence in winter in temperate countries, and SARS-CoV-2 might share this feature in the post-pandemic era.”
“We show that reinfections by natural infection occur for all four seasonal coronaviruses, suggesting that it is a common feature for all human coronaviruses, including SARS-CoV-2. Reinfections occurred most frequently at 12 months after infection, indicating that protective immunity is only short-lived.”
Presumably they’ll just want to give it to everyone every six months, then. Very good for the vaccine makers and our biological overlords.
In my experience, if you spend time in a different area you catch a lot of colds in the first few months and then only catch them rarely. I surmise once you’ve had a certain cold virus, it will most likely be a barely noticeable mild sniffle if you catch it again.
Like Freshers flu
Mike Graham (TalkRADIO) does a feature on YT called Plank of the week, I probably do not need to tell you who this weeks plank is, but I found this comment from Simon Dolan interesting.
Simon Dolan talking about Johnson
Kier Starmer. Honarary plank of the week every week. He defines planks.
https://summit.news/2020/11/16/forced-vaccination-law-in-denmark-abandoned-after-public-protests/
Someone who wants to befriend me on fb posted the HofC clip of this. Listen carefully:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH179rKQGPQ
“Half of whom have had the lie!!!!”
Matt Wankock 11 Nov 2020
Think I’ve found a new friend!
About time we had some politicians on polygraphs.
Beginning to think we can bypass the polygraphs for some and go straight for the noose.
Some have shown that they are far beyond knowing they are part of wrong doing.
Dolores Cahill was on Richie Allen today, second segment. She and 45 other people are in the process of creating an international organization to replace the United Nations,
The World Freedome Alliance. Check it out. She is also working on the creation of an organiztion to replace the W.H.O. That woman is phenomenal. She’s a great souled woman.
Piers Morgan is a giant douche. So glad his attempt at being an American didn’t work out.
I am not!!! His wife is equally dreadful.
If there’s ever a documentary about the government’s response to CoVID-19, the theme music will be played on a kazoo.
Here follows part 1 of a reply from my MP. I don’t know which of my several contacts she is replying to because it does not specifically answer any of my points and is clearly a cut and paste. There are many factual inaccuracies used to justify the government action and I may decide to respond if I have the energy but really these people are impervious: –
Thank you for your recent e-mail regarding the new national measures in the ongoing response to the coronavirus pandemic. Whilst I note your comments, I will continue to support this Government’s efforts to defeat the virus .As a strong supporter of freedom, liberty and enterprise I can assure you that the decisions that havebeen made by the Government have not been taken lightly.As your local Member of Parliament and as a member of the Government I do not want to see restrictions on our way of life in place for any longer than they need to be. I entered politics to work to give people more freedoms and to empower businesses. As we take action to suppress the spread of this dangerous and deadly disease I am working to get as much of society and our economy reopened to as close to normal as possible as soon as possible. My commitment to promoting more freedoms for families and businesses strengthened by this pandemic as I know that our recovery will be dependent on the strength, resilience and entrepreneurial spirit of our country. These are however unprecedented times, forcing Governments across the globe into action that would previously be seen as unthinkable, and simply standing back and doing nothingisnotanoption.There is much we still do not know about this virus,and the risk of inaction is too great. I would therefore like to set out the reasoning for the move to national measures.The second coronavirus peak that we have seen around the world has shown us all that we are going to be dealing with coronavirus for the long-term. That is why over the past weeks and months the Government have been working on a long-term, balanced approach that protects the NHS, keeps children in school, lets the economy function as much as possible, and does not require constant changes. It was hoped that the situation could be managed with the regional system of alert levels, and allow as many people to live as normal a life as possible, because a national lockdown is not cost-free -not only in terms of jobs, businesses, and livelihoods, but also the impact on mental health and loneliness.This is why theGovernment have been so determined to try and avoid another national lockdown. However, the situation has significantly deteriorated and this is now clearly a national problem. The extraordinary efforts being made by millions of people across the country—especially those in very high alert areas—have made a real difference, suppressing the Rrate below where it would otherwise have been.But the R is still above one in every part of England—as it is across much of Europe—and the virus is spreading even faster than the reasonable worst-case scenario. The latest published data shows that the R rate in the East of England is between 1.0-1.2, with a growth rate of 1-3% per day:
Source: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-r-number-in-the-uk) We have also unfortunately seen sharply increasing numbers of infections within Essex, with the statistics for the number of cases per 100,000 dramatically rising in October from the levels seen in August and September: (Source: https://www.essex.gov.uk/local-outbreak-control-plan) ItisclearthatthesituationintheUK,aswellasacrossotherpartsofEurope,isincredibly serious. Incidence rates are growing, and the NHS is under increasing pressure. If the NHS were to be overwhelmed, it would mean non-Covid cases turned away from hospital because there is no room left; and critically important surgeries and treatments cancelled and many left without treatment. The Government are taking urgent action that will increase NHS capacity as much as possible but even if we doubled NHS capacity, that extra capacity would also be full within a single doubling time of the virus. It was therefore crucial to take action across the whole of England, because there is no alternative. These restrictions will apply nationally for four weeks up to Wednesday 2nd December, and will override the current Local Alert Level restrictions. The Prime Minister set out the plans to Parliament, with Parliament presented the opportunity to debate and vote on these measures on, and with the vote having passed, came into force on Thursday November 5th. It is important to highlight that these are time-limited measures, and on the 2nd December we will seek to ease restrictions, on a local and regional basis, according to the latest data.
Part 2:
This aggressive action allows us the prospect of a better December. The alternative would be even more stringent, and longer-lasting, interventions through December and thereafter. These measures are necessary to help control the spread of the virus which thrives on social interaction. Unfortunately, we know that the virus spreads readily in indoor environments where members of different households and/or support bubbles spend time together. These restrictions do not single out restaurants, pubs or gyms but apply to a wide range of settings where the risk of transmission is high. These findings were highlighted by SAGE, who stated that: “A wide range of social, residential and workplace settings have been associated with transmission. The highest risks of transmission, including those from super-spreading events, are associated with poorly ventilated and crowded indoor settings with increased likelihood of aerosol emission (such as loud singing/speech, aerobic activity) and no face coverings are worn such as bars, nightclubs, parties/family gatherings, indoor dining, gyms and exercise classes, choirs and churches.” (Source:https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads /attachment_data/file/933225/S0824_SARSCoV-2_Transmission_routes_and_environments.pdf) I understand the points and views you have raised and would once again reassure you that I am working to support the freedoms and liberties that we cherish in this country and to have our economy and society reopened as much as it can as soon as it is safe to do so. Thank you, once again, for taking the time to share your views with me.
Not sure if this has been posted already, but it is certainly something that ought to be spread to the greatest extent possible.
https://youtu.be/01psekGKn3Y