UK’s Covid death toll rises by ONE
In spite of all the hysterical talk of a ‘second wave’ this Winter and rising cases in England, the number of people who died in Britain on Sunday was precisely one. The Mail has more.
The country’s death toll is remaining low as just one person died after testing positive for the disease bringing the UK’s total fatalities during the pandemic to 41,499.
Figures on Sunday are usually smaller due to a delay in processing over the weekend.
There were no new deaths in Scotland for the fourth consecutive day. Wales and Northern Ireland each had no new fatalities for the third straight day.
Scotland reported 123 new cases, taking the total number of positive infections to 20,318.
The Mail says that 1,715 people tested positive for coronavirus on Sunday, the biggest daily rise in 12 weeks.
But the death toll continues to fall.
And 40 B&H Please
A reader has an amusing story.
A surreal scene, recounted to me by my elderly neighbour as he queued to pay for his groceries at the local store.
The chap ahead of him (fully masked up) got to the till and said to the girl at the checkout “and 40 B&H please…”
It’s a strange world we live in!
Perhaps the chap had heard that smokers are at a lower risk of ending up in hospital with COVID-19 than non-smokers.
Humiliation for Kim-Jong Dan
A few days ago, an Australian reader cautioned me not to treat the 18-month extension of emergency powers being sought by Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews as a done deal – and he was right. After trying and failing to get an 18-month extension, Andrews had to settle for six. The Mail has the story.
Daniel Andrews has sensationally backed down on his plans to extend Victoria’s state of emergency by 12 months, after top doctors branded his government’s handling of the coronavirus crisis a ‘slow car crash’.
A state of emergency – which gives police extraordinary powers to search, arrest and detain – was first declared in Victoria on March 16 and is due to expire on September 13 after several extensions.
Mr Andrews wanted to change legislation so it could be extended for a further 12 months, but was met with furious backlash from the public, civil rights groups and his political friends and foes.
As a compromise with upper house independents and minor parties, who vowed to vote with the Coalition next week and oppose his plan, Mr Andrews has now offered to accept a six-month extension instead of 12.
The premier is also willing to compromise on the terms of the extension and the powers the state of emergency would give police and health authorities, according to the Age.
Let’s hope the mad dictator can’t even get a six-month extension through the Victorian legislature.
Largest Academic Trade Union in UK Uses Covid as Excuse to Down Tools
The University and College Union (UCU), Britain’s largest academic trade union, has advised its members against returning to work because it’s “too dangerous”. The Guardian has the story.
Plans to reopen universities have been thrown into serious doubt as the UK’s largest academic union warns today that it is “too dangerous” for face-to-face teaching to resume, and calls on the government and vice-chancellors to prevent students returning to campuses this autumn.
Around one million students are expected to move around the UK as they head back to universities over the next month, which union leaders and public health experts fear could lead to a dramatic increase in outbreaks of Covid-19.
The University and College Union (UCU), which represents over 120,000 academics, lecturers and university workers, accused the government of “encouraging a public health crisis”, warning that British universities are just “weeks away” from “sleepwalking into a disaster”.
“A million young people are being encouraged to travel all around the UK, move into halls of residence and congregate in large numbers. This could lead to universities being the care homes of any second wave of Covid,” general secretary Jo Grady said in an interview with the Observer.
Jo Grady must know that the chances of the Covid death toll in Britain’s universities matching that in care homes are vanishing to zero. Readers of Lockdown Sceptics won’t need reminding that under-65 year-olds with no co-morbidities are more likely to die in a road traffic accident than succumb to COVID-19. So what is she up to?
The answer, I’m afraid, is that the UCU, like the teaching unions, is trying to exploit the crisis to score political points against the Government – and to hell with the welfare of young people.
Unforgivable.
Eye-Witness Accounts of Saturday’s Rally
A reader has emailed us to tell us about her experience at Saturday’s anti-lockdown rally. She describes it as “crushingly depressing”, I’m afraid.
I had umm’d and ahh’d about whether to attend, because I believe that all the conspiracy theorists are counterproductive to the immediate problem of getting the Coronavirus Act repealed/stopped. But I am also so worried that the governments behaviour during this very strange time is going to continue unless something big makes them change. I guess I looked at a lot of the sites with my rose tinted specs, and although I already knew that Piers Corbyn was going to be speaking tripe, Delores Cahill gave a good speech in Dublin, so I thought we’d make up another couple of bodies and get up there.
The rally was crushingly depressing. The main organisers were SORUK I think, their FB page certainly seemed to have the most sensible pre rally information regarding what NOT to put on your placards..
PLEASE think carefully about what you put on your placards, tshirts, etc…
ON TOPIC, YES MESSAGE SUGGESTIONS ARE:
*No Covid Vax
*Tell the Truth
*We want a real democracy
*Save Our Rights
*Stop New Normal
*Anything related to statistics & cover ups of the truth
*Anything highlighting the devastating effects of the lockdown (eg. cancer deaths increase, domestic violence, suicide rate increase, etc…)OFF TOPIC, NO TO MESSAGES ARE ANYTHING MENTIONING OR ALLUDING TO:
*Bill Gates
*5G
*anti-vax (in general)
*New World Order (NWO)Needless to say, there were plenty of placards highlighting the ‘Plandemic’ ‘5G’ ‘Bill gates, evil mastermind’ ‘NWO’. Probably 50/50 conspiracy theorist placards to those with a more reasonable message. There were no masks and no social distancing.
We arrived just before 12 and most of the protestors were in the fountain area of the square, with the speakers shouting from the base of Nelson’s Column. There was some problem with the PA system, something about the police confiscating their video screen because they hadn’t applied for the right license I think, so for the first 50 minutes we could barely hear the female voice shouting. But then they got some big speakers working and we were able to hear better, although the police helicopter that continued to circle the square for the rest of the rally did make all but the most able speakers hard to hear properly. But that is probably just as well.
It is hard to estimate the numbers of protestors, but I would suggest the numbers were more like 5,000 than 35,000.
The loons were there in number. I had no idea people were linking so many things to the virus. If you believe what they are all saying the outcome is truly apocalyptic. And worse… David Icke spoke. He didn’t actually say anything controversial, thank goodness, but he is the front man of monster raving loonies and his presence there was manna to the theorists and flattening for the rest of us.
I was unable to identify any of the other speakers apart from the three mentioned, so cannot attribute announcements to individuals I’m afraid, but we heard claims that the vaccinations would change us at a genetic level, and once changed we would no longer be considered human and could therefore be killed. We heard that the swabs used for PCR testing contained nano particles that would roam around our bodies for some reason (I didn’t hear why). We heard that something in fluoride was doing something to us (I didn’t hear what). There was chanting including ‘Choose your side’ – great unity message then.
I was tempted to leave on several occasions, but stuck it out because I felt I should try and listen to what was being said. It was a long 3 hours.
It is the first protest that we’ve attended. It was interesting to see the policing of the event. A couple of community support officers walked by, masked up, and I caught their eye and commented that I couldn’t see their lovely smiles. They engaged in a little small talk, bless ‘em, and actually posed for a photograph with me. I had a gilet jaune on with the message ‘REPEAL THE CORONAVIRUS ACT 2020. RESTORE OUR FREEDOM. ACT NOW TO STOP THE ACT. CONTACT YOUR M.P. A.S.A.P.’ A young lady saw us chatting and came and asked if she could take a photo of our backs, 2 yellow met police vests and one protestor vest. The officers agreed. The officers made sure they were facing front so they couldn’t be identified, (even though they were masked up) but I made a point of looking up and smiling at the officer next to me. I wonder if I’ll ever see that photo? The officers then started to walk off before remembering they were supposed to be doing a job, and came back to tell us that we were participating in an unlawful act by being at a gathering of so many people. We said we knew, and understood that they were just doing their job. And off they strolled. Apart from the police helicopter drowning out (thankfully) most of the speakers, we weren’t aware of much of a police presence until we had had enough, and started to stroll down towards Parliament Square.
But another reader emailed with a much more positive account.
I travelled two hours by train to the protest yesterday (no issues using the ‘exemption’ badge printed from your page – thanks) and wanted to add a couple of things to the report you published yesterday.
Firstly it’s worth people of all sorts getting out and joining these kinds of rallies. Even if you don’t agree with the 5G conspiracy, etc., the issues at stake here are far greater than that. Going by the signs held aloft and from speaking to a few people, the vast majority there were not conspiracy theorists. They were advocates for freedom pure and simple. Freedom not to be forced to take a vaccine. Freedom to question the authorities without losing your job (as happened to several speakers from the medical profession). Freedom to send your children to school without a mask. Freedom to see your family especially on their deathbeds.
Secondly it’s necessary to break the law when your basic rights, such as that of free assembly, are being suppressed. If you do so in enough numbers, the police cannot act and so the suppression will end. The entire gathering was of course illegal given its size. Almost nobody wore a mask (illegal given our proximity?). During the rally we were encouraged to hug and shake hands (illegal?) with the people next to us. It felt good, having not done that with a stranger since March. The police did try to stop the rally in a couple of ways: firstly by confiscating the organisers’ amplification and video equipment, then by trying to drown out the speakers by means of a constantly circling helicopter. We waved or made other gestures to the flying cops in a show of defiance. Even so it was slightly intimidating.
Thirdly, in amongst the nonsense of Bill Gates being behind it all, there were some really interesting ideas discussed. For example:
*’peoplescourt.org‘ intends to defend whistleblowers in the courts and hold officials promoting unagreed DNRs accountable
*apparently ‘notice of liability’ letters can be sent to teachers opening them up to charges of malfeasance if your child is adversely affected by anti-covid measures taken in school
*most interesting was a proposal to depoliticise the NHS and return hospitals and surgeries to the local institutions they once were, accountable to the patients in their areas. This would be accompanied by disbanding the GMC and other politicised medical bodies.I left part-way through David Icke’s speech in order to catch a train but from what I heard, I noticed that even if he has some mad ideas, he had to appeal to the loss of freedom and the need to fight facism so as to get the crowd on board. I conclude from this that there is a massive body of sensible opinion out there waiting to be led by someone rational. If such a person or group would appear it could be the start of a new political group that many people traditionally from the Left and Right would join.
Stop Press: Piers Corbyn, who was arrested at Saturday’s rally, has been fined £10,000. The Standard has more.
Round-Up
- ‘The China Syndrome Part I: Outbreak‘ – Part one of a four-part series in Quillette by Philippe Lemoine
- ‘Finally, CDC Admits Just 9,210 Americans Died FROM COVID-19‘ – Principia Scientific highlights the CDC’s admission that only 6% of all Americans recorded as dying from coronavirus had no co-morbidities
- ‘New CDC guidelines are aligned with science‘ – The new testing guidelines are much more sensible, says Jennifer Cabrera in Rational Ground
- ‘Brompton riding high as Covid gets us in the saddle‘ – Nice to see some companies are doing well (and I’m a Brompton owner myself)
- ‘We wanted the toughest possible lockdown, and now we will pay the price‘ – Excellent column from Daniel Hannan in the Telegraph
- ‘“Our service was dead”: NHS worker under investigation after claiming coronavirus is “a load of b*****ks” and admitting she did “f*** all” during the pandemic‘ – Shocking story of an NHS worker being penalised by her employer for dissenting from Covid orthodoxy
- ‘Finally, states are retracting Hydroxychloroquine bans’ – Prohibitions on the use of HCX in the treatment of COVID-19 have been lifted in Ohio and Minnesota
- ‘Entire flight to Cardiff told to self-isolate after seven confirmed COVID-19 cases‘ – Absurd over-reaction. The evidence that Covid can be transmitted on planes is threadbare at best
- ‘How the media has us thinking all wrong about the coronavirus‘ – Decent piece by Emily Oster in the Washington Post about how people have a tendency to over-estimate the risk posed by COVID-19
- ‘A bluffer’s guide to surviving COVID-19‘ – Statistician Tim Harford calculates that the risk of becoming infected and dying from COVID-19 in London are about one in two million
- ‘Investigation: African migrants “left to die” in Saudi Arabia’s hellish Covid detention centres‘ – Harrowing story from Saudi Arabia about the appalling conditions in Covid detention camps
- ‘The BBC has a real chance to reform after losing sight of its purpose‘ – Robbie Gibb with some advice for the BBC’s incoming Director-General Tim Davie
- ‘Red-listing of Ibiza and Mallorca a disaster for local businesses‘ – A report in Euronews about the catastrophic impact of red-listing the Balearic Islands
- ‘Treasury officials push for bombshell tax hikes to pay for virus‘ – And there we were thinking it would all be paid for by a magic money tree
- ‘Refusal to wear a facemask linked to sociopathy‘ – What nonsense is this in the Times?
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Five today: “Living in Fear” by the Power Station, “Scaremonger” by Total Science, “Nothing is Safe” by Grannysmith, “Make It Up As We Go” by Jason Derulo and “We Are Led By Fools” by Jayo From Cpt.
Love in the Time of Covid
We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums that are now open, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We’ve also just introduced a section where people can arrange to meet up for non-romantic purposes. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.
Small Businesses That Have Re-Opened
A few months ago, Lockdown Sceptics launched a searchable directory of open businesses across the UK. The idea is to celebrate those retail and hospitality businesses that have re-opened, as well as help people find out what has opened in their area. But we need your help to build it, so we’ve created a form you can fill out to tell us about those businesses that have opened near you.
Now that non-essential shops have re-opened – or most of them, anyway – we’re focusing on pubs, bars, clubs and restaurants, as well as other social venues. As of July 4th, many of them have re-opened too, but not all (and some of them are at risk of having to close again). Please visit the page and let us know about those brave folk who are doing their bit to get our country back on its feet – particularly if they’re not insisting on face masks! If they’ve made that clear to customers with a sign in the window or similar, so much the better. Don’t worry if your entries don’t show up immediately – we need to approve them once you’ve entered the data.
“Mask Exempt” Lanyards
I’ve created a permanent slot down here for people who want to buy (or make) a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and it has the advantage of not explicitly claiming you have a disability. But if you have no qualms about that (or you are disabled), you can buy a lanyard from Amazon saying you do have a disability/medical exemption here (now showing it will arrive between Oct 2nd to Oct 12th). The Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. You can get a “Hidden Disability” tag from ebay here and an “exempt” card with lanyard for just £3.99 from Etsy here.
Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face nappies in shops here (now over 31,000).
A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption.
And here’s a round-up of the scientific evidence on the effectiveness of mask (threadbare at best).
Stop Press: King David High School in Manchester is insisting that children aged 12 and above wear masks in classrooms.
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A thought-provoking post by ‘Moneycircus’ on Off Guardian:
“People want to get on with their lives. It seems there are three ways to do this. One is to try to ignore Covid entirely. This seems impossible because traps have been laid at every door. Testing, surveillance, disinformation, compliance, intrusion into our very computers and working tools. If you are part of the corporate bureaucracy this may work, because in a strange way you ARE Covid.
Another approach is to lash out in all directions, demanding freedom ‘as was’ and pushing back against each and every affront to our lives: smartphones, surveilled email, 5G, the credit-debt trap. In doing so we are forced to reject conventional employment, even conventional locations: perhaps this works if we band together with others, go off grid and ‘back to the land’. We become invisible.
A third approach is to engage the enemy. To seek to identify exactly who is behind this. The targeted approach perhaps allows us to avoid this enemy, to inhabit different planes in the same space. And if most people want to comply, to live in parallel but jostling for space, for land, for rights. This is the most political option, setting oneself against… Read more »
This ‘dark triad’ mumbo-jumbo seems to be getting trotted out a lot these days. First of all, narcissism and psychopathy are not personality traits, but disorders that are defined by the possession of personality traits, such as grandiosity or lack of empathy. Psychopaths are themselves narcissists, but in other ways the two are antithetical. Psychopaths are more self-aware and better able to gauge how they come across to others, while narcissists simply have no comprehension at all off others’ emotional reactions to them. Like the old saying goes, ‘Psychopaths know how you feel, they just don’t care. Narcissists don’t even know.’ You can’t add up and get narcissist + psychopath = sociopath. Right now, both types of people would be wearing masks: narcissists because they depend heavily on the approbation of others and want to be seen to be better than everyone else without going out on a limb at all, and psychopaths because they can manipulate others less conspicuously. Ted Bundy would absolutely be wearing a mask.
Always be wary of ‘studies’ like this. Woke progressives are very much invested in manipulating mental health narratives, partly as a means of discrediting their opposition and partly as a way of… Read more »
Played golf today with 7 others.general consensus is that it’s all bollox.Went to a Toby carvery later in the evening.Packed with everyone getting their last cheap meal courtesy of the chancellor.no masks,visors on any staff or patrons the only thing different is that you can’t serve yourself,other than that a very old normal day
Ferguson and other “experts” are pushing the fear again, this time in The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/aug/31/little-room-for-manoeuvre-as-uk-covid-cases-rise-say-experts
Loads of “upticks” and some “surges”.
How come the hospitals are empty?
Yesterday it was reported that Nicola Sturgeon was feeling a greater sense of anxiety than at any time because of a few test results. When they interviewed some of the passengers on one of the Greek flights where infections had been subsequently found the people seemed febrile and anxious to an alarming degree and all over a virus that there is a good chance would cause them no problems.
Then it occured to me, I was happily using the word chance, I tend to evaluate the risks and the chances of success and give things a punt, take a chance, as Johnny Cash put it ‘he’s the kind of man who gambles on luck, looks you in the eye and never backs up’. I’ve done some stupid things and looked death in the eye on several occasions but my luck held out and amazingly I’m still here and still taking risks and ‘chancing it’. It just set me wondering if the people who are getting so anxious about this virus have never taken a gamble, never chanced their arm and nearly blown everything and are thus unprepared to come up against a virus which they cannot 100% control and where… Read more »
I now believe that newspaper interviews are entirely made up.
Every woman who gives birth has had a brush with death. Looked risk full in the face. Doesn’t stop people from being poor at weighing up the likelihood of death or injury
I find it odd that serious people, like Michael Levitt, Nobel prize winner and Professor at Stanford, are brushed aside as detritus in the wave of health professional groupthink.
Has Ferguson ever stopped to consider that, if a Nobel prize winner thinks it is tosh, it just might be? There’s a kind of twitter mob endorsement that says, if Twitter opinion is with you, you must be right. It is a mass hysteria.
I think what dismays me the most is the idea that our society is controlled by people, in the media, in politics and in public health, who think that if they judge a risk to be severe, they have a mandate to allocate whatever resources they see fit to fix it. It is the Soviet tractor factory applied to public health.
Let’s assume that Covid may be twice as bad as flu. OK, so we would need half a lockdown annually. But what about every other health statistic? Surely we must ban cars for the 20,000 annual “deaths” (where no-one actually died). There must be 100 other causes with a better claim in health benefit. What about children’s diet? A ban on alcohol and cigarettes? Fast food? That’s got to go!
They have also decided that work is optional. If you are employed by the State, then you get paid whether you work or not. Judges get paid for not sitting in court. GP’s get paid for not attending surgery. Anaesthetists get paid for not doing operations. Fairly soon you must get a black market in government jobs.
At the moment they are using magic money. For ten or fifteen… Read more »
Remember all the stuff there wasn’t enough money for, care of the elderly, those without work, disabled people, youth services, libraries, refuse collection, mental health services, miserly coercive benefits and benefit sanctioning leading to a rise in FOOD BANKS!, child poverty, homelessness, cuts to drug and alcohol services this list goes on and on.
Then the Scamdemic was foisted upon us.
Now, well how much money do you want to buy half a billion face nappies and 120 million doses of an untested vaccine, useless track and trace phone apps, contact tracers, not to mention all the workers of the land’s salaries….
300 Billion? Sure, let me do the cheque for ya….There is more if you want it 😉
PS: Like my parting?
It is seriously crazy. Public health hysteria. All the people I have asked say that the protection in hospitals for flu is none. All of a sudden, we have RAF airlifts of defective PPE for Covid. Imagine if that money had been spent instead on simple hygiene in hospitals, or earlier detection of cancer?
Yes. It’s beyond sickening.
Fast food is the obvious killer! Very likely causes 100,000 early deaths every year through obesity, diabetes, heart disease and cancers. For some reason no national emergency has been declared. More will now die because Fergie’s Fake Figures have resulted in Covid monopolising our health resources.
Radio 4 just said 90% of all patients in ICU with covid were obese
I have decided.
From Tuesday, every adult must do a 5k run, every day. You will be timed. If your times are slower than before, you will not be paid. Simples! Everyone’s health will improve and we will be the most healthy nation of Earth (My personal trainer suggested this. I have recommended him as Head of the Home Civil Service. Such clarity of thought. We need people like this).
There once was a lady called Mona
Who was scared of catching the Rona
She got in her bin and shut herself in
and stayed there till Boris said it was over
It’s been a long day….
Half a year, half a year,
Half a year onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six sceptics.
“Forward, the Awkward Gits!
Charge for the pubs!” he said.
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six sceptics.
II
“Forward, the Awkward Gits!”
Was there a man dismayed?
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to go and lie,
About the Track and Trace
Went the six sceptics.
III
Johnson to right of them,
Hancock to left of them,
Sturgeon in front of them
Hectored and thundered;
Sprayed at with handisan,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the Dog and Duck,
Into the public bar
Marched the six sceptics.
IV
Flashed all their faces bare,
Flashed as they met the glares
Dumbfounding all the maskers there,
Charging the doorman while
All the bar wondered.
Plunged in the sea of woke
Right through the line they broke;
Cummings and Ferguson
Reeled from the master stroke
Shattered and sundered.
V
When can their glory fade?
O the wild charge they made!
All the world wondered.
Honour the charge they made!
Honour the Awkward Gits
Noble six sceptics!
Valliantly – and well – done.
Though I hope we’re not remembered for the futility of our deaths in a vainglorious accident that came from a mistake.
Remembered ? If we lose this one, nobody will know we even existed.
Sky news just babbling about something on a front page tomorrow being a ‘triple threat’. Lest we forget the vaccine is going to ‘give double protection’.
Quite honestly in another time these people would end up with bloody noses.
All it needs is for people to stop complying.
stop complying everybody, now please.
What lessons do our media overlords want us to learn from the Covid plane infections I wonder? It seems they would like us to conclude that the ‘cases’ arose because of incorrect mask usage, whereas of course the only logical conclusion is that masks don’t work full stop. Still don’t rule out the next click on the ratchet being a new army of mask inspectors.
Absolutely! The maskquerade that they block “most”/ “much” and it /“much less” transmission correctly actually express the available evidence that No, these masks are not a 100% effective barrier against transmission. So everyone could be wearing one and they “might” work for “most” people. But not all, so No they will not end the virus.
So, back to square one, that didn’t work.
Balance that against the actual real time issue of an entire generation not being educated, sick people going untreated, and a country and economy that has been stopped in it’s tracks because it can’t find a way forward with masks/rules to combat something quantifiably increasing the number of people currently dying by about 0.6% per day.
You can’t undo the damage done already and bring back lives lost already
Tell me again then what “might” be in the best interest of “most” people.This is not a discussion about what an effective filter is.
Jim, that’s superb.
Firstly I don’t think it’s either established or likely that these people were infected on the flight but more likely at the resort.
2ndly, are any of them ill?
Pah!, If you can get sucked out a plane’s toilet when your fat bum makes a good seal and are sitting down when you flush, I am sure a plane toilet can suck out covids no problem. Idiots.
Why did I turn the news on??
Adele is going to be cancelled for doing her hair a fun way.
Labour want to screw next years students already.
The Official c19 deaths say 2, but Sky have found some way to quote a number of 4.
Please just smash me in the face instead!!!
The CDC figure of 6% dying of Covid whilst the rest is WITH is worth taking note of. As it is saying that developing Covid is basically the same as the flu (with a slightly elevated risk maybe) As has always been predicted and seen in the mortality rates.
I’ve seen the argument that someone can have Covid and then die if say they had asthma. They may live to 80 but die at 60. See Covid is still dangerous. Of course I can see that argument but it is equally possible with the flu, a cold and pneumonia.
The CDC have just said that the “excess danger” is 6%. That SARS-Cov-2 presents a slight increase in relation to other respiratory illnesses.
I think the upper limit is 12% if we take the Italian minister’s word for it.
So still within the excess death variations that we see where we DON’T DO ANYTHING i.e. nominal societal behaviour and interaction
This was obvious from the Wuhan data and the Diamond Princess but yet here we are.
The final local lockdown in Ireland (that of Kildare) has been lifted today.
Non food serving pubs remain closed across the land with no date given for re-opening.
And can anyone explain why?
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200622-the-long-term-effects-of-covid-19-infection
Interesting. I wonder whether the risk of side effects increases if you give a person 10 times the normal amount of sedation.
Robert F Kennedy Jr reckons that 1.5 million protested in Berlin on Sat. Will link to his Instagram below but for those who don’t have access, here’s the text that he’s posted and also one the shots. Impressive.
beneath the Siegesäule Monument where I spoke. This was one of 40 sites scattered around Berlin where where some 1.5 million people gathered around separate stages to evade police harassment and peacefully protest the alarming global rise of Medical & Digital Totalitarianism. As I said in my speech,the government strategy is to portray the protestors as right wing extremists or “Covid Deniers”(a euphemism,in the official narrative for Holocaust deniers) none of which is true. The government issued three proclamations declaring the protest illegal. Our Rapid Response team of lawyers successfully appealed each of these declarations in court. The Pharma-controlled main stream media blacked out all coverage the main event altogether-ignoring what were perhaps the largest crowds in German history. No main stream media covered this momentous gathering. The only media reports claimed only 38,000 people & showed clips of a staged incident where 100 riot police colluded in a false flag show with some 50 agents provocateurs in Nazi regalia near the… Read more »
Love it. Thomas Berthold, legend.
Hopefully this is just the start.
His caption is brilliant and his support so important. He interrupted his press conference to promote the European arm of his organisation to protect child health to come to the Siegessaeule on Sunday to support the protestors. I hope the rally in Berlin encourages other countries to come together and demand of these infantile policies.
I’ve been out and about these last few weeks trying to spend some money and do my bit for our tourist attractions. The mask nonsense is driving me up the wall in museums and art galleries, but I don’t think I need dwell on this madness with you guys. Here are some of my views on different attractions if anyone is interested (I had intended on going on holiday to France but Bojo and Hancock put paid to that):
Tower of London – was dead when I visited. Was told by one of the staff they can’t afford to fill the moat or light up properly. Normally this time of year there would be long queues to get near the crown jewels -I walked straight in and rotated round multiple times. When I went, one of the most interesting bits, St Peter ad Vincula church was closed off which I’ve wanted to investigate for years… Staff member admitted they miss the big-spending Asian and US tourists who buy imitation crown jewels and Kate and Wills tea towels.
National Art Gallery – Maskophiles but I can’t fault them otherwise. One of the first places to reopen and they seem to know… Read more »
Thank you. I care a lot about being able to visit places like this so appreciate your report.
You get about friend. London is great.
Agree with the Thames boat & masks. Pushiest anywhere so far, but they’re mainly kids and a firm ‘Exempt’ with stare backs them down. Once on, no probs. They’re always pushed for timekeeping so a 15 second fiddle on the gangplank looking for card sees them abandon rules anyway.
Maritime Museum NOT open, but is this week I believe. Queens House good & free. Relaxed.
Planetarium not open either.
Greenwich market running but sparse. Usually rammed Peyton & Byrne in Church St relaxed and good for coffee, cake & more.
I like Greenwich.
Didn’t realise the main maritime museum wasn’t open but wouldn’t have had time! The clippers are being very pushy, I’ve used them a couple of times. The tour boats going upstream to Kew are operating but they’ve been buggered by the problems with Hammersmith bridge. I used them a few weeks back, they told me they weren’t going to offer Hampton Court this year as they don’t want to pay lock charges at Teddington…. I popped in for a few pints to the Trafalgar and was able to get a seat on the riverside.
The boat thing might be Uber generated. They’re big on masks in their cars apparently. Used black cabs. Because they deserve it and it’s only a few times a year. Had a Caribbean driver from Victoria who was a breath of fresh air. Great hybrid cab too. He was running it on the engine because plugging it in is a hassle, man.
Report from Scotland.
Today our Dear Leader allowed gyms to reopen. My last visit to the gym was a defiant one on March 23rd. 5 months later I was able to return. It was much quieter than it would normally be at that time of the morning. I’m not sure if fear, disinterest or the bank holiday (English, not Scottish) had anything to do with it. Either way, very little has changed in my gym, which was great.
A couple of people were wandering around in masks, all but one ditched them quite quickly.
This evening it was a trip to the cinema. The group I went with were literally the only customers in the place. Masks were expected to be worn in the public areas, but none of us did, no one said anything. All the staff were masked up. I spoke to the guys at the concession counter. They said the place has been dead since they reopened. They’re hoping that as new films get released, it’ll get busier again, but they’re sure people are still too scared.
In other news, Dear Leader tells the nation that this is the most anxious she’s felt for weeks, for some… Read more »
I’ve given up trying to make predictions based on time. Hopefully the government are shitting themselves as we speak, as they realise how much public opinion is turning on them.
I’m off to the cinema tomorrow night, for the first time in 7 months. I love sitting in a cinema, with a great crowd watching a great film, it’s just one of those pleasures in life that we’ve been robbed of.
I would be interested to be a fly on the wall in cabinet. It’s clear there are some severe divisions between the economically literate and the NHS worshippers. Hancock has clearly got a cob on. I am often in the Westminster area and sometimes have had too much to drink – it has taken all of my self control to not charge down to Westminster bridge and start shouting ‘Show yourself Hancock’!
Do you think cinemas etc. are quiet because people are too scared or because they can’t be annoyed with all the masks and social distancing palaver? I think it’s possibly the latter. Since masks were made compulsory I haven’t gone into a shop or anywhere else requiring them unless completely necessary.
I’ve been twice since unlocking. No masks yet. Old films mostly but I did catch The Quiet Place. Excellent stuff. Had the Cinema to ourselves as well.
Tend to think a lot of people are not going out / going to shops because they can’t be arsed with the palaver.
When the establishment stops treating you like you have bubonic plague there may be an increase in custom again.
Supermarket footfall decreased dramatically with the mask follies AFAIK.
I know I can’t be arsed with it so have started making home wine, living in Kim il Sturg On land, with its minimum pricing, adds another incentive to do so.
Plenty chairs round barbecue for sunny days & could convert 1/2 the garage to a home pub.
I know of a few others that have done that already in my town.
What’s the atmosphere like in Scotland? If the Dear Leader, who is the perfect incarnation of the appearance a leader should have, tries to close off Hogmany, how will the people react?
I am a Welsh exile in England, and my rellies back in Wales seem to think Blackford is doing a good job and ‘cares’ for their health deeply, whilst merrily ignoring all of his holy sayings. They must not do as the evil Saesons do!!
Sorry, but then your ‘rellies’ are stupid. No choirs in Wales, the land of song?
No North Wales is a bit different that way…
To your question, I don’t either. I’m in a quandary over Christmas: my sister, her husband and their child live in my mother’s house. We should be going there for Christmas. I’ve no doubt that my mum would want us to, but technically by the “rules” (guidelines) 8 of us from 2 households is bad. Add in my brother and his wife, who live near us and you have 10 from 3 households. My uncle – my mum’s brother – who lives alone and normally comes for Christmas, makes it 11 from 4.
The tiniest crap about which, I could not give (“up with which, I will not put” for those of you who know their Churchill) but I’m certain that my sister will be militantly against the exercise and since I don’t want to put my mum in the difficult position of having to argue with her, I’m thinking we’ll do Christmas here, which will mean my brother and his wife and my wife’s aunt will have somewhere to go for Christmas and my mum is very welcome to come if she wants to.
Thanks – I am in the process of deciding whether to book a Christmas in north Wales – the train tickets are eye wateringly expensive from round here. My parents are sticklers for the rules, except when inconvenient e.g. needing to cross into England to buy something because all the shops ‘yn Gymru’ were ‘ar gau’ (shut)
That sounds like a good solution all round – don’t you have issues with your brother-in-law’s attitude to lockdown anyway? We are going through the same discussions. Latest plan is my brother drives to Newcastle, picks up my mother, and brings her to us, then comes back for her with his family (we normally all get together on Boxing Day, or the day after), she stays with them for a few days, then he drives her home. It means he has, all told, about 1000 mile drive. We are a household of four, none of us drives, and nobody wants to rely on trains (it will be a nightmare over Christmas). As long as my mother gets to watch all the soaps, she’s as happy as Larry (with glass of red wine and plate of cheese)!
There’s the additional problem (thanks for remembering) with the apparent fact that my brother in law is a Facebook mask-warrior, yes. Don’t know for sure because I haven’t looked at Facebook in a decade, but my wife tells me so. I won’t go into his personality, but he won’t be able to keep his mouth shut and on this particular issue that I really care about, nor will I. So it might get uncomfortable.
More to the point though – my mum came to us in London last year. She has 3 grandchildren: my two (8 and will-be-7-by-Christmas) and my sister’s (8). Although she spends a lot of time with my sister’s boy, we’re running out of time on magical christmases and it’s not very fair to ask her to choose. Plus, my boys are desperate to see their cousin.
Remember when the worst we had to worry about was uncle Steve getting drunk again and insisting on singing the black velvet band’?
On gyms, this was a good piece on Hector Drummonds blog recently. Gyms should have been morgues with COVID-19
https://hectordrummond.com/2020/08/14/sarah-ingham-gyms-and-fitness-studios-confounding-covid-19/
But no. Maybe Weigh Protein is an unknown source of immunity.
Do you mean Whey protein?
DavidC
That’s the one
‘They’re sure people are just too scared’? Maybe they can’t be arsed to buy into the narrative, that’s why I’m not doing the ’rounds’.
If the idea was ‘unite for freedom’ – the organisers used it under the belief that opposing ‘Them’ on any and every from is what that meant.
However my intention was to be there – as part of living with myself.
Everyone would have perceived it through the lens of their own judgements.
I had a critical awareness to much of what was said or the way it was said and the general panto approach of working a crowd. But I recognise human foibles and know that whatever else – these people actually got it together and it happened as a witness to openly protesting the political oppressions running under pretext of virus.
I don’t see any future for cliques and factions and I foretell that those who survive will be grateful for any who join in a shared humanity – regardless our self-image.
However, the organisers did not hold a disciplined focus and yet contrary to their possible beliefs, it was not their event. It belonged to all who participated – who may or may not have agreed or aligned in the various statements but in the main were happy enough to rally in a sense of sharing a… Read more »
Bravo. Nice comments
“However my intention was to be there – as part of living with myself.”
Well said. Glad you were there.
Just asking – does anyone here actually know whether it is possible to design a coronavirus vaccine to cause a specific harm? Do we have the medical knowledge to do this yet?
I have friends who are frightened that the new vaccine will sterilise them.
Personally I doubt that this is medically possible, but I am concerned by the clear intent to rapidly impose a costly vaccine on the UK when we can ill-afford to buy one – having lost so much of our economy.
Unless we are hoping to sell a British vaccine on the world market first, and thus recoup some of our losses
So why is there this rush to inject people? Is it to get us used to the concept of subcutaneous chips? And becoming tolerant of invasive techniques?
Just look at Elon Musk trying to get a pig to do something, if our top technologists can’t control a pig do you really think the British government or anyone else could manage to seamlessly take over people’s brains? The ideas you float are just bonkers.
It’s conceivable that a vaccine could do some people some harm but this isn’t Star Trek.
The British government have quite clearly taken over people’s brains since March.
No, the people have surrendered them, there’s a difference.
A pretty fine distinction. The gov definitely wanted to do this. People were unaware of surrendering.
With the help of the MSM – there is an interesting thread on Simon Dolan’s Twitter about how the government paid for 3 months of advertising…
It’s highly likely that hundreds of thousands of Kenyan women were sterilized via tetanus injection, circa. 2013-2014. Can’t recall all of the specifics, but Kenyan Doctors did go public claiming they had found something in one of the vaccines that acted as an anti-fertility hormone. WHO took centre stage.
Some years prior there was a Gov. whistle-blower in the Philippines, who basically alleged the same thing.
http://www.theinterim.com/issues/population/former-population-control-official-affirms-philippine-vaccine-scandal/
To answer your question, it’s most certainly medically possible. Who knows what the vaccine is [or will be] and how it will react in individuals – that’s the real issue. Nobody can really make any guarantees. and if something does go wrong – like poor little Saba Button, left disabled via a flu jab – the powers that be will say, “whoops. sorry about that” & then what?
Earlier than that even, in the early 1990s.. In 1994 Human Life international became suspicious of a WHO vaccination programme against tetanus in Tanzania, Nigeria, Nicaragua, Mexico and the Philippines, because only women aged 15-45 were being vaccinated (ie not men or children), and got hold of some of the vials, which were found to contain human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG, a hormone essential for maintaining a pregnancy). When introduced into the body coupled with a tetanus toxoid carrier, antibodies get formed not only against tetanus but also against hCG. These antibodies will attack subsequent pregnancies by killing the hCG, meaning the woman cannot sustain the pregnancy.
I don’t believe that there’s some dystopian objectives behind the push for a vaccine. My view is that its simple greed and political cowardice. Vaccines have done some good in the world I reckon but there are serious questions to answer about their safety, need and effectiveness.
There’s some excellent info on vaccines in general via the link below, which is the organisation ran by Robert Kennedy Got to the research tab for lots of detail.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/
One other resource that I would encourage you to read is JB Handley’s blog https://jbhandleyblog.com/published-science and book https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-End-Autism-Epidemic-Revealing/dp/1603588248
There’s a really good conversation between Kennedy and Handley here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHeP7nJA9MY&t=2s
Hope that helps.
I agree AN… greed (Big Pharma), grandstanding (billionaires like Gates), cowardice & opportunism (politicians), and mass hysteria (orchestrated by a malevolent media) are enough to explain the rush to mass vaccination, even though it will probably create the conditions for the rise of further novel pathogens, some potentially far more dangerous. We don’t need to resort to fanciful conspiracy theories to explain what’s going on.
Could you include something in an injection (any injection) that might lead to sterilisation?
Yes. Many substances can do that.
Would you realistically want to?
I’m doubtful
Would you need to create a global panic over a virus in order to have the opportunity to inject people of childbearing age, or pre-childbearing age to accept a sterilising injection?
No. Those people are injected so often for so many reasons that you could just add whatever it is into whatever injection you’re giving them.
What about mandating a secretly sterilising vaccine?
Well, however wealthy you are, you need a functioning society to support any kind of lifestyle you might want to maintain. And a massive collapse in the human population would preclude the maintenance of that lifestyle, however you look at it. So I’m not quite sure what’s in it for the people who apparently want to do it.
I wrote a long reply to this and then deleted it because it was too depressing. In short, it is possible but seems very unlikely for various reasons. The biggest of which being that for something so heinous, the reprisal consequences for the likes of Bozo and Handjob would be terminal. However, with many of the new stages in the madness, barriers are being removed with the result that it is looking more possible as we progress. In my mind the odds are tiny, but growing each day. I’m ~80% sure it is still gross incompetence and psychopathic arse covering rather than conspiracy, but we better keep an eye on it just in case.
Could be eg stroke victim who tested positive while in hospital.
If the numbers are like the US ones, according to the revised version from the CDC, they should amount to 2,490 deaths from covid alone with no co-morbidities (6% x 41,500).
Re the US covid-only deaths, we don’t know if they were of otherwise sprightly 86 year-olds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9gkStFnLQY
Media Lies Exposed In New Hyroxychloroquine Study | Pat Gray Unleashed
Another retailer with a death wish:
https://twitter.com/verityguildford/status/1297843974925881349
This is not the first time I’ve heard of TK Maxx’s disgraceful treatment of customers with exemptions and they should really be careful because they will get their comeuppance if someone decides to take them to court for disability discrimination.
We should vote with our feet to put this company out of its misery.
Our tkMaxx (Hove) has been fine – no masks, no harassment, sanitiser optional.
The ones in Central London are pretty dead – they had ropes and antisocial distancing stickers for the queues that have never materialised.
https://skwawkbox.org/2020/08/31/us-sees-huge-rise-in-child-coronavirus-cases-hospitalisations-and-deaths/
https://www.tribpub.com/gdpr/sun-sentinel.com/?fbclid=IwAR3exfiZr0EpchpllPEyFiGqqfXNSHLtkzqJqsXXyiU2nzf-urz8K98W6Kg
Right on queue for all schools returning tomorrow, just to get the fear ramped up. The strange thing is half of parents want to pull their kids out due to teh masks and rules, the other half as its a walking virus infested death factory.
Any principals/teacher among the group here wish to give us an insight as to what your feelings are?
I have a relative who is a teacher and she is very upset and depressed by all the new regulations, feels they will adversely affect children’s psychological wellbeing, as well as hers – she wants to be able to teach normally.
I was talking to someone this morning whose wife is an NTA. She said that every time they get the school compliant, the guidelines have been changed at short notice. She said they’ve been doing this crazy dance throughout much of the summer.
That is misleading website with links and stories dating back to May.
To be clear, I was only sharing it as it seems to have been shared across a number of social media accounts this evening to add to parents stress, and teachers of course.
Two reputable sources they are not.
The danger of face masks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWYKIS-2YFM
Very good!
I think that video is misleading. He’s claiming that the mask reduces the PROPORTION of oxygen in the inhaled air. That could only happen if the proportion of nitrogen correspondingly increased. But that doesn’t make sense, since the sizes of the molecules of each gas are vastly smaller than the holes in the mask. A possible argument is that a mask reduces the absolute amount of oxygen (not the proportion) being inhaled, unless the wearer breathes harder, which could cause problems for someone who already has respiratory issues, e.g. asthma, or even someone with no such issue exerting themself. Another argument is that the mask causes buildup of carbon dioxide. That has some validity but I think that the air we breathe out has only a slight reduction in oxygen content and a slight increase in carbon dioxide compared to what we breathe in. For me the valid argument is that our exhaled breath contains organic compounds (which in large amounts cause “bad breath”, but nobody’s breath is completely odourless) and it’s unhealthy to have these building up in contact with mouth and nose. The same argument (buildup of noxious material) applies in the unlikely event that the breath contains… Read more »
I think it’s probably in combination with the increased CO2 levels – which are also going to impair mental function.
The pathogens which are trapped are given the perfect warm damp environment in which to multiply. Lovely – not!
Your saliva is full of sugar so the inner surface of the mask will have a nice layer of feed for bacteria.
O2 in fresh air is normally 20.9%.
Exhaled breath is normally around 16% O2.
Gas proportions inside masks when a sample probe is inside mask show O2 at around 17-18%,with elevated CO2 levels.
Officially HSE define O2 at 18% as an oxygen deficient atmosphere, i.e. if you had a confined space, sampled atmosphere at 18% O2 before entry, your risk assessment will have to include mitigation for the risk of Hypoxia.
You also open yourself up to prosecution from HSE if you instructed anyone to work with O2 at that level.
Thanks, I’ll take your figures on trust and they do show that rebreathing exhaled air is not very good for the body. The video didn’t make clear that it was talking about rebreathing exhaled air, but I guess that’s what they were getting at.
Remember all those first aid memes about getting someone hyperventilating to breath from a paper bag.
Why do we think that was?
Because the rebreathed air had more CO2 and less oxygen, this lowering body response.
Then they try to tell us this doesn’t happen with cloth masks but still does with a paper bag you can see through.
FFS
Interesting – can we try to prosecute using HSE definition of an oxygen deficient atmosphere, with regard to being required to work under those conditions?
If the science is there, I think you could mount an effective legal challenge that mandating nasks is “Wednesbury” irrational, not just stupid, biased or doubtful but highly irrational, acting against the declared rationale (protecting public healt). You probably have to show that the secondary legislation goes against the purpose of the primary legislation.
Possibly, remember the HSE are very coy about being pinned down though, think Sir Humphrey.
They are all about prosecuting others for inadequate risk assessment and precautions.
I’m sure there is a precedent somewhere in UK, so that could be used..
Possibly get management forcing mask wear as condition of employment to sign a document of liability for mask mouth conditions.
https://www.foxnews.com/health/mask-mouth-dentists-new-term
this song gave them too many ideas
Zager & Evans – In the Year 2525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKQfxi8V5FA
This is a better version by The Nephilim:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdYuSbthibI
I’ll take this bit of good news for what it’s worth. I’m glad it’s in print as it’s now on the record and would be difficult to walk back. Having said that, they could require a health reason to refuse the vaccine or make life difficult for those who refuse it. Canada is one of 2 G20 countries who does not compensate for vaccine injury, and we do currently have exemptions but some provinces have tried to rescind them. I’m only cautiously optimistic after reading this.
“She (Minister of Health) added that no vaccines in Canada are federally mandated and that will be the case for a COVID-19 vaccine as well. Hajdu said Canadians have a responsibility to keep each other safe but there is also an understanding that some people cannot be vaccinated for various health reasons.”
I am afraid this will be done by the back door, for example to visit certain countries you need a vaccination certificate, I seem to recall when we went to Sierra Leone we had to show a yellow fever vaccination card. So this Covid vaccination will be forced by requiring a vaccination card to do some things or go to some places.
I’m becoming more and more resigned to the fact I may not be able to travel for a very long time, if ever. I won’t wear a mask on a plane and I won’t get a vaccine. Makes me very sad as hubby retired last year and travel was one of the many things we had planned. I can only be thankful I’ve been all over the world already and wasn’t waiting until middle age.
Travel locally around you. Reduced travel will be common and so it will be the thing to do.
Tricky if you live in a different country to the rest of your family…
What happens if you cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons? there are always people who cannot use vaccines (immunocompromised etc).
I have no idea what counts as a medical reason. Some reasons I’ve read about include being immunocompromised, as you point out, and an allergy to any of the ingredients in the vaccine (like eggs for some vaccines). Past vaccine reaction or injury (so difficult to get anyone to take seriously) might also be exemptions. Also religious exemptions have been allowed based on vaccines including fetal tissue. But I think all bets are off now and it’s going to get really ugly.
Joe Biden Weighs In With His Virus Expertise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyhNP36Jnlw
Puppet President?
More like the sock!
His continuing to stand makes a mockery of the whole democratic process – though that’s very easy to do nowadays.
Its comedy gold, albeit a little sad.
Dear God, I knew he was a long way gone, but that is a dead man walking.
Gosh, I didn’t realise he was that bad. How can they possibly have found a candidate that makes Trump seem like a sane choice. Maybe Elon Musk tried his chip on Biden’s brain before he tried it on the pig?
Three weeks, three weeks to flatten the curve, that’s what the the lying bastard said
We are now entering the seventh month and people are being locked up for making speeches
The dictator is a lying, thieving, c*nt, he should locked up and put on trial
Apologies for the language but there is no other way to describe this excuse for a man
Really, I can’t take much more of this shit.
Not man more of a jelly like blob. Odd man too,one of the things about being a new parent is you usually become full of ideals for the world becoming a better place for your baby.
He’s not even sure how many he has though. He’s totally irresponsible – like a teenage boy who has just discovered sex!
I’d love to think of a responsible reply, but I’m now mostly thinking “hmmm. Good times”
I’m a responsible mother of two teenage lads – well 20 and 18!
I don’t like the explicit language.
Out of the blue, I got a call from my oldest friend today. We don’t talk often anymore (long story), but it was nice to hear from him.
He’s not stupid (he was made QC a couple of years ago) but very conventional.
As conversations do, we drifted onto the current situation. “I’m a bit worried about the number of cases at the moment,” he said. “Don’t be,” I said “the only thing that’s relevant is ICU admissions and deaths.”
I then explained that – even with a generously low false positive rate, the current testing numbers and the current low prevalence means that you probably don’t have the virus, even if you test positive. I had to explain it twice, but he got it. I also pointed out that, if you’re not sick, it really doesn’t matter what you’re not sick of.
“Oh,” he said “so I should look at hospital and death numbers?”
“Yes. And they’re bimbling around zero. And they’ll bimble around zero for the rest of time, because this is a respiratory virus that is known to pass between humans and animals, so we can’t get rid of it.”
“Unless there’s an effective… Read more »
Good work.
I find it concerning that a QC needed this explaining to him! But glad you did.
I am continually shocked by the lack of any kind of medical or scientific understanding among people in positions of power. MP’s for example….(From experience) And I do not mean high level knowledge, but just the ability to reason from simple basics or ask relevant questions.
People focus on what they do. He’s a clever man and very hard working, but he will have spent the last 6 months focused on his cases and looking after his family. His knowledge of this farce won’t go any further than what the telegraph and the bbc have told him.
crazy you had to explain this to a QC? I mean seriously I though these guys were supposed to be the cleverest people on the planet
If he didn’t get this he is in the retarded region of intelligence.
Well done.
Also, had the opportunity to evangelise in the pub this evening. Just a few facts and corrections of misconceptions. Think I moved things forward for a few.
Great work, but I bet the next time you speak to him he asks you about “the imminent second wave” or some other such nonsense. You get through to them but as soon as they watch the 6 O’Clock news it’s back to square one again.