Fatties – You Don’t Need to Worry About Dying From Coronavirus
Matt Hancock has written an article for the Telegraph today in which he warns people who are “morbidly obese” that they are at a higher risk of dying from COVID-19.
Obesity is one of the greatest long term health challenges that we face as a country.
It not only puts a strain on our NHS and care system, but it also piles pressure on our bodies, making us more vulnerable to many diseases, including of course coronavirus.
The latest research shows that if you have a BMI of between 30 and 35 your risk of death from coronavirus goes up by at least a quarter.
And that nearly 8 per cent of critically ill patients with coronavirus in intensive care are morbidly obese compared at around 3 per cent of the country as a whole.
He concludes:
If everyone who is overweight lost five pounds it could save the NHS over £100 million over the next five years. And more importantly, given the link between obesity and coronavirus, losing weight could be lifesaving.
So just how great is the risk of dying from coronavirus if you’re a fatty?
According to the latest ONS infection survey data, about one in 2,300 people had COVID-19 in England in the week of July 6th to 12th. Now, that’s not very reliable because the false positive rate for the antigen test could easily be one in 2,300, so to confirm this the ONS would need to re-test anyone testing positive to confirm the result – which it hasn’t done, obviously. Nevertheless, let’s assume that’s correct – that the number of people infected with coronavirus in England is 1/2,300 or about 24,350 (56,000,000/2,300). We know that the number of new cases is declining because the R is less than one, but for the sake of argument let’s assume that after 14 days, when those 24,350 people have either died or recovered, they’ve each passed it on to one other person. So that means the total number of people infected in England over the course of a year is ~633,100 (24,350 x 26). Again, a huge overestimate, but let’s give the bed-wetters the benefit of the doubt. So if you’re an Englishman, your chances of contracting the virus over the course of the next 12 months is 633,100 in 56,000,000 or 1.13%.
Now what are your chances of dying from COVID-19 if you’re unlucky enough to get it? It varies with age, obviously, but let’s assume an IFR of 0.26%, the last-but-one CDC estimate which I suspect was a little high. Again, benefit of the doubt. That means the average chance of an Englishman catching and then succumbing to the virus are ~0.0029%. Let’s add Matt Hancock’s 25% – the increase in your chances of catching COVID-19 and dying if you have a BMI of between 30 and 35 – and it comes to ~0.0036% or one in ~27,777.78. That’s remarkably similar to your chances of dying in a road traffic accident in the UK – and remember, that’s all ages, so if you just look at under-65 year-olds your chances of dying from COVID-19 are far, far lower than your chances of dying in a road traffic accident, even if you’re morbidly obese.
Don’t worry, Mr Creosote. I think you’ve got room for one more wafer thin mint.
Teaching Unions Demand Compulsory Muzzles in Schools
It was inevitable. The General Secretary of the National Union of Bed-Wetters – I mean, the NASUWT – has called for face coverings to be mandatory in schools and colleges. The Telegraph has the story.
Patrick Roach, the General Secretary of the NASUWT teachers’ union, said: “The Government’s guidance for schools is now out of step with wider public health guidance and guidance to other employers where it is recognised that, where physical distancing cannot be assured, face masks should be worn.
“Teachers and other staff working in schools also want to be assured that, when they return to the workplace in September, they will be afforded the same level of protection as other workers, and that the guidance for schools will be brought into line with guidance for other workplaces.”
Mr Roach noted that Government advice means children over the age of 11 are required to wear coverings when they visit “a range” of facilities such as shops and banks. He said: “So there is a strong argument that face masks should also be made compulsory for children when they return to secondary schools in September.”
The teaching unions must know that only four children under the age of 15 have died from COVID-19 in the whole of the UK and no one has been able to document a single case of a child infecting an adult anywhere in the world. So why the insistence of face nappies? I can only assume it is to make it even harder for schools to re-open in September so the unions’ dues-paying members can extend their six-month holiday.
Stand firm on this one, Gavin Williamson. Make it clear that face masks won’t be required in schools and any teacher refusing to turn up for work in September will be sacked.
In the meantime, you can sign this petition started by Them For Us.
Stop Press: Some US colleges are insisting on painful nasal swab tests for all students every other day.
Track and Trace Programme is Unlawful
Lockdown Sceptics has a special correspondent who’s been following the slow-motion car crash that is Matt Hancock’s track-and-trace programme since it was first unveiled. Here’s his latest report.
The UK Government has conceded that its flagship contact tracing programme has been operating unlawfully since its May 28th launch.
Digital rights campaigners at the Open Rights Group (ORG) have forced the Government to admit that its track-and-trace programme has been operating unlawfully. The programme was not subject to a full Data Protection Impact Assessment (DPIA) as required under GDPR. If only they had paid attention to Lockdown Sceptics on May 28th, when we warned of precisely this risk. Apparently, the Government developed the scheme “at such pace and scale” that it was not a primary focus. So going at things in a rush is now a defence?
But who cares about DPIAs and GDPR? It’s not as if contact tracers are sharing patients’ data on social media. Oh wait, what’s this? Coronavirus contact tracers have been sharing patients’ data on WhatsApp and Facebook.
Where is our indomitable UK regulator in all this? It appears the Information Commissioners Office (ICO) see themselves as “a critical friend” of the Government providing guidance and advice. Well that’s nice, but if it is not too much trouble could they please do their job and take meaningful action on behalf of UK citizens?
Cut-Out-And-Keep “Mask Exempt” Cards
A reader has got in touch to point out that “Mask Exempt” cards are available for free from this medical centre’s website. Just download the PDF and print it out. The site even provides a handy dotted line so you can cut out the card and laminate it yourself. And the upside is, you are only claiming you have a “reasonable excuse” for not wearing a face nappy and not falsely claiming to have a specific disability.
Further to your post on lanyards today, I would like to contribute my experience.
I have so far been in three big chain shops since Friday, including Co-op, Waitrose and Currys. In each case I was, depressingly, the only mask dissenter.
I am uneasy with claiming a disability when there is no such reason at all for me to not wear a mask. I was therefore pleased to find the this PDF which I printed out and placed in a holder I had in a drawer. The wording of the dark blue ones is wonderfully appropriate – I have many very reasonable excuses! And my conscience is clear in not claiming disability. Perhaps it’s worth drawing this link to the attention of our friends?
Round-Up
Here’s a round-up of all the stories I’ve noticed, or which have been been brought to my attention, in the last 24 hours:
- ‘Beer sales rose in lockdown, and yet we drank less‘ – Contrary to popular myth, alcohol consumption actually declined during lockdown
- ‘Vietnam evacuating 80,000 from city after three positive COVID-19 tests‘ – After three cases?!? Guess how many have died from Covid in Vietnam in total since the pandemic began? Zero
- ‘Holidays in turmoil as quarantine is imposed‘ – What’s the next country to be removed from the travel corridor? France? Germany? Britons are cancelling their summer holidays in droves
- ‘Angry holidaymakers vent over new 14 day quarantine rule for Spain‘ – Poor buggers
- ‘Airline passengers “panicking” over quarantine‘ – Imagine being told on landing from a safe country that you have to quarantine for 14 days, which means not even leaving your house to get essential groceries. I’d panic, too
- ‘Benidorm in shock as UK’s quarantine “hammer blow” threatens to wipe out tourist industry‘ – Does this make Dominic Raab a bed-wetting version of Thor?
- ‘Regenstrief COVID-19 Dashboard‘ – For fans of Covid dashboards, this must take first prize. Tells you everything you need to know about Covid in the good state of Indiana
- ‘Shocking moment thieves in medical face masks raid Currys PC World – snatching phones and tablets as terrified staff look on‘ – Thieves are taking advantage of mandatory face coverings to rob shops. Who could have possibly foreseen that?
- ‘Workers are leaving the restaurant industry‘ – Depressing news from across the Atlantic
- ‘Most A-level and GCSE results will be decided by computer modelling, not teachers, in major U-turn‘ – Computer modelling? What could possibly go wrong?
- ‘Use glory holes for safe, socially-distanced hook-ups‘ – Advice for Canadian homosexuals in Pink News to protect themselves from Covid. You really couldn’t make it up
- ‘Why is this Government acting like a Lib-Dem, anti-car nightmare?‘ – Telegraph editorial poses a good question. Why have local authorities turned town centres into nightmarish labyrinths of one-way systems?
- ‘The troubling rise of the Covid contrarians‘ – Handy round-up of sceptical heroes in the Standard
Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers
Just one today: “No More Heroes” by the Stranglers.
Small Businesses That Have Re-Opened
A couple of months ago, Lockdown Sceptics launched a searchable directory of open businesses across the UK. The idea is to celebrate those retail and hospitality businesses that have re-opened, as well as help people find out what has opened in their area. But we need your help to build it, so we’ve created a form you can fill out to tell us about those businesses that have opened near you.
Now that non-essential shops have re-opened – or most of them, anyway – we’re now focusing on pubs, bars, clubs and restaurants, as well as other social venues. As of July 4th, many of them have re-opened too, but not all. Please visit the page and let us know about those brave folk who are doing their bit to get our country back on its feet – particularly if they’re not insisting on face masks! Don’t worry if your entries don’t show up immediately – we need to approve them once you’ve entered the data.
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And Finally…
Handy guide to what wearing a mask says about you, as compiled by American cartoonist Ben Garrison.
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Took OH in to Aldi and Tesco on Sunday, just so she could see there is nothing to be worried about, going shopping sans mask. She spent ages doing clothes, hair and face, just, I suspect, to wind up the maskers. 🙂
Anyhow all went well, except that when waiting outside Aldi, I was harassed by some young chap in his 20s. We were about 12′ apart (!), light to medium breeze blowing, no-one else around.
“Do you have to smoke there ? It’s smells revolting.” Usually I’m ok to move if requested to, but this wasn’t a request.
“Yes, I do. You look like a fucking idiot, but I’m not having a go at you about it.” (He was kitted out in sunglasses, neck mask, poncho, shorts, and big boots.).
He then shuffled off, muttering inaudibly.
I’m only posting this non-event, as it seems to me other internal censors have been ‘removed’ by the recent calls to shame non-maskers. I recall vague psychological arguments about approaching/breaching one taboo, leading on to others. I reckon it is now more ‘ok’ (for some) to shout at strangers in the street.
Just stick to your guns.
You are in the real world.
Zombies are in Hell.
Where they deserve to be.
PS. Do click and collect if the zombies get too much for you.
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The Makeitupasyougo Virus is very clever:
Covid-19 is a strange beast indeed. For it seems that it can be passed on in shops so we need masks, but not in offices where we don’t…
We don’t need masks in pubs and restaurants when eating and drinking, so obviously it doesn’t spread then, yet it does when taking a driving test. However, it very conveniently doesn’t spread when you remove your mask so that the examiner can check your ID. That’s considerate of it, isn’t it?
But even in shops, it only spread starting from the 24th of July, so it’s was okay up until then.
Also, hairdressers and beauticians can cut hair and carry out nail treatments providing they wear a mask – so it won’t spread there, but they cannot do any facials, because then it will spread. However, barbers are somehow immune from spreading it when they trim men’s facial hair, so it clearly doesn’t like beards.
The other odd thing about this virus is that it creates a second wave when people go to the beach, but doesn’t when they riot. Likewise, gathering for a clapathon to praise the tractor stats makes you immune as well.
It knows how you are eating, if you… Read more »
This is the sort of thing I said to my mother the other evening – she ended up laughing and agreeing with me!
It’s so deadly we have to do
everything we canthings that look like we’re doing something to stop it.Oh brilliant! that has made me laugh out loud for the first time in a while! thank you
As a fatty I am elated. Now if you excuse me I have a crate of walnut whips to eat.
McDonalds will be participating in the eat out to help out 50% up to £10 off scheme.
Tuck in, Enjoy. Fuck Fascists.
Have just now passed the Mary Kings close plague tourist attraction on the High Street here. A mediaeval ‘jorvik’ through an underground plague street. Their logo is a creepy bird-like plague mask. So, on the street we have a man in mediaval peasant costume holding a large plague logo lollipop sign wearing a covid 19 plastic visor.
The irony of self aware, post modern man making a living by cocking a snook at poor peasants who lived through a full on kill-your-whole-town plague, while at the same time wearing a modern plastic superstition device was too much to take in. I will return for a chat later.
Locked Down And Out
asked an hour ago when the MSM were going to wake up to the ONS showing that total deaths are now below the 5 year average?
Devon Live local online (not really local but national with local characteristics) today excitedly report
Devon and Cornwall total deaths now less than normal
FOR THE FOURTH WEEK RUNNING.
Well they took their time but got there before the nationals.
And most didn’t need to die before: see US Doctors conference in DC demanding use of hydroxychloroquine (because it works) & exposing its suppression:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/c7rrMPoXqGvn/
That was taken off Facebook, Twitter, youtube as soon as it went viral.
The whole 3hr conference is under ‘Summit’ in menu at:
AmericasFrontlineDoctors.com
3 hours very well spent I found
It is so sad to see what has been done to our lovely country in the name of dogma.
Thank God for this site…a little oasis of sanity in the great sweltering Sahara of mass hysteria.
I am not normally a toadying type but in this case Toby does deserve full praise and support for facilitating this community of the sane and the sanguine.
That’s not toadying, it’s proper acknowledgement.
Welcome to Toby’s regiment!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8567833/Covid-19-deaths-drop-low-England-Wales-RISING-South-West-South-East.html. Big headline -Virus fatalities rising in the South West and South East. Yes it’s a scary 57% increase in Covid deaths in the South East Err except the rise is from seven to eleven in the South West which looks more like the the 57%.Still you can never be too safe . Surely a local lockdown with mandatory gloves and indoor masks.
WOW, that’s TERRIFYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, terrifying how the media use the statistic that creates the darkest impression, I was just thinking how %’s can really suit those who want to inflate the fear, instead of :
flattenthefear.com
a doctor’s website worth visiting
The only comfort you can take from this sort of farcical use of numbers is the confirmation that the Scary Fairy Mengele Brigade are stupidly innumerate.
By implication – intelligence lies on the side of the contrary case.
Just when you thought Johnson could be any more cretinous: “Boris Johnson has defended the Government’s decision to impose quarantine restrictions on Spain, saying there are signs of a second wave of coronavirus in Europe.” Why are most of the population so fucking stupid that they are taken in by this?
The Bible did say that God would send delusions during the End Times. This is it. We’re in it and these are the delusions. Sceptics are blessed.
Just when you thought the stupidity level around Wuhan Lab Flu had reached the ultimate, we get this (paywall):
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/28/people-6ft-have-double-risk-coronavirus-study-suggests/
Here’s the bit that isn’t behind the paywall:
People over 6ft tall have more than double the chance of being diagnosed with Covid-19, a survey suggests.
An international team of researchers, including experts from the University of Manchester and Open University, surveyed 2,000 people in the UK and US to look at whether personal attributes, work and living practices might influence transmission.
The team found that taller people are at higher risk, which the scientists say suggests that the virus is transmitting through the air, as height would not make a difference if people were contracting the diseases exclusively through droplets.
have you ever read so much utter BOLLOCKS! in your life?
It’s because they’re closer to it. Remember if you sit in a restaurant you can’t catch it!
Does this mean that taller people should be double bagging? Maybe they should make it mandatory asap.
I am exactly 6ft! Where does that leave me? Slightly higher risk especially if on tiptoes?
Your nose might be at slightly higher risk than your mouth and precautionary steps should be taken accordingly.
Just a nose mask should suffice then – phew!
There was a general consensus maybe 20 years ago that tall slim people are more likely to suffer collapsed lungs. I know nothing more that that.
I certainly enjoyed the comment ‘because they are closer to it’!
There is an old saying: long bones don’t make old bones. Sorry to be heightist.
Oh fuck… I’m 6’2 !
Matt Handcock has today announced that people over 5’9” should now kneel on a skate board or “a home made wheeled platform” when in public and avoid standing up in confined spaces. Failure to comply will result in a £100 fine. Also high heels are now banned and everybody must wear flat soled shoes.
He has also said the “Emerging Science” has clearly shown the need for height restriction in public as the virus can be spread farther the higher up people’s mouths are.
It was always about flattening the sole.
Well, they’re longer, that’s more of them to infect, stands to reason
Proof that it is the tail wagging the dog with regards government’s relationships with scientists?
Daily Mail: Chris Whitty ‘DEMANDED ministers put Spain back onto the UK’s quarantine list’.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8567225/Chris-Whitty-DEMANDED-ministers-Spain-UKs-quarantine-list.html
It’s people like that who really make me want to requisition a full yellow tychem suit with full visior helmet and a belt mounted battery powered respirator, walk around a few shops, and tell them that if they want protection, well, this is like 99%
I’d rather borrow an AK47.
Anybody done the childish sucking the air out of a mug/cup to make it stick to your face? Remember how it leaves a visible ring when you take it off?
I’m wondering if prolonged mask usage could eventually make everyone look like Homer Simpson, via tan lines, spot rings etc:
Hubby sometimes uses a mask with filters on either side, when working with a sander or other dust-creating machinery. He ends up with a big red ring round his chops; same with the eye-goggles. Takes ages to fade away!
But the most annoying thing about those masks now is that you can’t get them for love nor money! I need to do some DIY in the loft, so to keep the fibreglass at bay I need a proper dust mask. Unfortunately, all the bedwetters have stripped the shelves bare of them, and are wearing them in the supermarket.
Dust masks protect your from dust not bloody viruses. People are morons if they’re using them in supermarkets
The politicians and media are constantly pushing the number of new “cases,” without elaborating what that means exactly, the number of deaths, etc. There’s never any mention of treatments available or being used by the medical profession, the recovery rate, etc. They’re deliberately scaring and confusing the public, “wear a mask, shut up, don’t question, wait for a vaccine.”
Then they have the audacity to say that they’re following public opinion, having formed it in the first place.
If we didn’t have CV19 constantly in the news, with mandatory masks, etc, the vast majority of people wouldn’t even know there was a problem in the first place.
Exactly. It’s the only disease that needs a constant PR campaign.
Nice one – a virus with an expensive PR campaign behind it! How true!!
Hey, Boris and pals! This is from your own big book of law:
Offence of sending letters etc. with intent to cause distress or anxiety.
(1)Any person who sends to another person—
(a)a [F1letter, electronic communication or article of any description] which conveys—
(i)a message which is indecent or grossly offensive;
(ii)a threat; or
(iii)information which is false and known or believed to be false by the sender; or
(b)any [F2article or electronic communication] which is, in whole or part, of an indecent or grossly offensive nature,
is guilty of an offence if his purpose, or one of his purposes, in sending it is that it should, so far as falling within paragraph (a) or (b) above, cause distress or anxiety to the recipient or to any other person to whom he intends that it or its contents or nature should be communicated.
Considering the SAGE minutes suggested increasing people’s fear of personal threat.
Wow, good one.
You nailed it Lms!
Nick R I think it was linked to BBC article from 2018 when we had 50000 excess deaths
and no one batted an eyelid.
That was a fantastic post. We need to make the most of that.
My comment was prompted by a U.S. gymnasium owner who was arrested yesterday because he’d defied the local governor’s orders to close his business. He’d had 13,000 customers since June, and not a single case of CV19. The case numbers are very low where he is, but the governor is another tyrant Democrat who wants to keep everything closed, except liquor stores and cannabis shops. That tells you everything.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YGeGY9sYt6g
Tucker Carlson Tonight 27/7
In 1968 Hong Kong flu killed 80,000 in the UK. I didn’t even notice it was happening.
And there were only 55 million people in the country then
Clear communication completely absent on any public platform. This is creating hysteria. . What ‘the numbers’ are: how many tests, results of tests, % accuracy tests, who carrying out tests (private or public) , % likelihood false + or -ve. How many people unwell. How unwell? How many people hospitalised. How many deaths? % expected deaths with improved clinical treatment? All this could be portrayed in simple terms. It isn’t. Appalling.
If it was significant we’d be hearing all about it.
Yes but even then only in a rational non hysterical manner. Respiratory illnesses are often a blessed relief for those in extreme old age. We do not currently have either the medical knowledge or the technology to declare war on viruses – it’s like an Amazonian native trying to use a bow and arrow against a tank.
Pneumonia has been termed “old man’s friend” because ‘left untreated the sufferer often lapses into a state of reduced consciousness slipping peacefully away in their sleep giving a dignified end to a period of often considerable suffering’ (netdoctors). Compare that to the reported cases of PTSD in those ventilated.
https://www.lockdowntruth.org/post/we-could-open-up-again-and-forget-the-whole-thing
From the Swiss Doctor summary site :
““Case numbers” are, however, a misleading figure that cannot be equated with sick or infected people. A positive test can, for example, be due to non-infectious virus fragments, an asymptomatic infection, a repeated test, or a false-positive result.”
https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/
US doctors conference demanding use of hydroxychlorquine (because it works) and exposing its suppression: taken off Facebook, Twitter, youtube as soon as it went viral:
short video: https://www.bitchute.com/video/c7rrMPoXqGvn/
full Summit (under menu) : AmericasFrontlineDoctors.com
Well worth listening to full summit, 3 hours
Went to KFC yesterday. I was the ONLY person in the restaurant. The assistant was behind perspex and wearing a mask. She asked me if I had a mask. I said I wasn’t going to be wearing one. She asked me to leave.
Then went to ASDA. Quite busy. Almost 100% of people wearing masks except a few staff and a couple of customers. But I had no hassle of any kind. So that made up for KFC!
NO. It was’t open for sit down eating.
Apparently if you’re sat down eating you don’t need a mask but if you’re just taking away you have to wear a mask.
In the same room.
Simple, kitchen staff in MacDonalds Drive Thru (sorry) surrounded by new partitions must wear masks all day long. Kitchen staff in neighbouring Transport Cafe with no physical barrier to the eating public need not, hope that helps.
Sorry meant for Steven Farmer below, anxiety about guidelines.
Not really her fault, KFC have clearly not briefed her properly unlike the supermarkets who have been open all along and, in my recent experience, whose staff could care less about masks.
As if by strange magic I crossed the threshold of a KFC yesterday too – it was so empty I decided to venture in and have a chat all thing lockdown with the staff. None in masks – the manager, most manager-like person, said they did not really know really when and wear to tell me to wear masks. Just go with how you feel they said. I was asking about cafe vs take away.
They will section you for being disasociated from your anxiety (ie not being anxious when you ought to be).
Do take this with you:
Big hint: when you need 3 decimal places to note how dangerous something is, it’s probably not very.
Out and about for work yesterday. Large outdoor car park where London commuters park before getting on train. This is about 10:30am, dead, a handful of cars. On the few occasions I have gone to London for work you can arrive at this car park around 6am and it already filling up.
Tesco Extra for petrol, from passing the windows it looked quiet inside. Just used pay at pump, one person two rows away with no one else around them but wearing a mask. I guess the evil genius that is the virus is lying in wait on those contaminated pumps.
Drove through a couple of small towns, general observation that they were fairly quiet. However the weather not being great could be a factor.
Tesco Extra again later that evening, I would say at a guess 80% masked. It seemed to be mostly younger people choosing not to mask up. I didn’t witness or experience any hostility. But this was post 8pm and due to it being quiet it’s very easy to keep apart in the large aisles.
The old Pink Floyd song springs to mind
‘quiet desperation is the English way’.
“…shorter of breath and one day closer to death”. Whoops!
Today’s report comes to you from the nearby Tesco Local. The shop floor was almost deserted, save for a young mum (unmasked) with her daughter and a handful of bored-looking employees. One was wearing a plastic visor and another was wearing a mask, but the others weren’t bothering. No questions were asked. Next, I paid a visit to my village pharmacy. Some of the employees milling around behind the counter were wearing chin hammocks. I was surprised at the lack of questions there, given that it’s a ‘medical setting’ of sorts. All in all, a good visit to my local shops.
Shopping has now become such an unpleasant experience that people will obviously start either ordering online or stocking up on essentials and limiting their shopping trips. Either way it will reduce browsing time and impulse purchases and have negative economic impacts.
Yeah, that’s why they now want to tax online shopping.
To ‘help the high street’.
My gawd.
OMG. I think I’ve found another symptom of Covid-19—-agreeing with the Labour Party.
My symptom appeared this morning when I read this on the Sky News website.
Labour’s shadow transport secretary, Jim McMahon told Sky News:
”We’ve seen in the UK where individual cities have different interventions….because it recognises where you have a localised spike…..but we haven’t seen that (with Spain) we’ve seen a very blunt tool if you like, again, where the government has imposed restrictions on the whole of Spain including the islands”
Gosh do you think my symptom could be infectious?
Let’s hope not, but I also agree. There are clearly some absolute numpties in government….
Well – if you’re worried – just think how f.ed people are by agreeing with the Tory Party. 🙂
When is the MSM finally going to pick up on this? It’s what Toby and others here have been saying for weeks. So, many of those dying in March and April would have otherwise died in June and July.
How long will it take, I wonder, before the excess deaths of the spring are counter-balanced by lower-than-usual numbers during the rest of the year meaning (as we all know here) coronavirus was a big fuss about nothing.
Deaths in England and Wales have remained below the five-year average for the fifth week in a row, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).
There were a total of 8,823 deaths registered in England and Wales in the week to 17 July – 270 fewer than the five-year average of 9,093.
Of those deaths, 295 mentioned Covid-19 on the death certificate – the lowest number of deaths involving the virus since the week ending 20 March.
The ONS said that as the virus has a greater impact on the elderly and those with underlying health conditions, some of these deaths are likely to have occurred over the duration of the year.
“These deaths occurring earlier than expected could contribute to a… Read more »
There were also lower than five year average excess deaths last winter. I suspect that a calculation of excess deaths from September 19 through to March 21 will reveal that excess deaths have been in line with averages from the last five years, then the excess deaths will start to rise as the catastrophe of the lockdown plays out… the WHO are now admitting that Covid is just one wave of illness I.E. Professors Geisecke was right all along!!!!
If there had been a bad Autumn /Winter flu last year many of those recently carried away would have already been dead.
It’s quite clear that this years total morbidity will be about normal, fewer RTAs, industrial accidents but more suicides and child murders.
You’re saying that the cure will be worse than the disease! WITCHCRAFT!!!!
Simple maths (which you won’t hear from the MSM) : Averaging the 2018/19 mild flu’ season with the 2019/20 more severe season (including the April spike) gives a all-cause mortality at the median level for the past 27 years.
Nothing to see here. Move on!
First happened in London, week 20.
Was obvious then that you can’t die of the Covid in March and then die again in June from your underlying condition.
The fact that the curves were lagging for other parts of the country as compared to London should have been one of the early indications that Lockdown was pointless. Transmission and illness really got going in London earlier than it did in the rest of the country, but the lockdown was imposed at the same time everywhere.
That the north west or the north east (for example) could be visibly 2-3 weeks behind London in terms of peak and tail, despite having had the same restrictions imposed for exactly the same length of time should have been a pretty clear sign that lockdown made next-to-naff all difference.
Agreed, London got it first because Heathrow and got it bad because Heathrow, the tube and crowded living conditions. It lingers oop north because it got there later, simples.
That’s why we still have the lockdown. The more deaths caused by lockdown etc, the more they weigh against the expected drop in excess deaths. So premeditated killing of extra people to hide the proof that government action was a clusterfuck.
Killing to cover their arses, that’s the type of psychopath our political system has been designed to attract.
“When the world is run by psychopaths (think Stalin, Hitler, etc) the world goes mad.”
6% of the population are believed to be psychopaths, and it seems that most of them have found their way into power.
Thanks for that quote, I think it perfectly sums up current times. I’ll be using that myself.
Read Jon Ronson’s “The Psychopath Test”
What kind of plaint have I
Who perish in July?
I might have had to die
Perchance, in June.
The Yeomen of the Guard
Just ignore the masked brigade, they want to be dehumanised so treat them as such. I ignore people who address me whilst wearing a mask, I haven’t been challenged yet. In my mind I call the ‘The Invisibles’, and I treat them so.
I don’t wear one and I have had no issues with officious twats. I hope that I do though, cos they’ll wish they hadn’t. I carry a wafer thin scarf with me which I hold over my nose if I must, it is totally permeable and almost see-through and does not look like a mask. This is my effort to ensure face masks don’t become normalised. I instinctively want to avoid any place that enforces this unholy, un evidenced bollocks BUT I also don’t want the high street to die or our way of living to be changed by this, so I figure I will wear the scarf when I must, which is adherent in the loosest sense, to avoid this consequence. I won’t let them ruin the things that matter to me, like independent retailers, cafe culture, shared spaces etc. Keep it light, keep it bright… keep it gaaaaay.
Exactly. I just ignore them completely until they make some sort of personal gesture (a pointed stare etc.) and then I smile BROADLY at them.
“I won’t even go back to work I feel so unsafe”
This is what is happening – induced mental illness by the Mengele Brigade.
But she goes out shopping….
Yeah, exactly. Shopping nice, work not. Conveniently been given a legitimate reason to live off the state and pull a massive sicky.
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0728/1155918-coronavirus-global/
Are the WHO starting to backtrack? One big wave, not a series of waves.
Thanks for linking that. It looks like a significant change in stance. Not inconsistent with there not being a vaccine any time soon, or indeed ever?
She also warned against thinking in terms of virus waves, saying: “It’s going to be one big wave. It’s going to go up and down a bit. The best thing is to flatten it and turn it into just something lapping at your feet.”
It IS flat! This is gaslighting!
https://www.lockdowntruth.org/post/where-s-the-evidence-there-may-be-a-second-wave
Someone should tell her the story of King Canute.
Ah, yes. Tried to turn back the tide, but it couldn’t hear him through his mask…
If that’s the case, that’s a big change in tune from them.
This quote now from a WHO scientists says it all. Liar. WHO was the one introducing on size fit all lockdown from the beginning also in Africa leading to mass starvation and millions of girls thrown out of school into misery. This disgusting WHO is now getting second thoughts when other UN organisations like FAO warning about the consequences.
“But as the figures kept rolling in, the WHO argued against a wholesale closing of borders.This was “not necessarily a sustainable strategy for the world’s economy, for the world’s poor, or for anybody else,” said WHO executive director Michael Ryan.A “global one-size-fits-all policy” was impossible because outbreaks were developing differently in different countries, he added.”
Dr David Nabarro just interviewed on Sky. He was talking about ‘living with the virus’, ‘rich countries helping poor countries’, and ‘local, rapid lockdowns rather than blanket country lockdowns’, so very stable, and door. That said, no mention of a vaccine once!
Mental health support? Watch out, might be another ruse to get more people tested.
I checked out of planet insanity a while ago. I think we should just ignore the nonsense. I did a home visit last week , very unwell chap, didn’t want to bother us because we are so busy !! Argh !
ONS data deaths down for the 5th week running on the five year average down 3 percent. But now mega panic mongering on Spain even though most of the place is no worse than the uk
For some amusement in these very unamusing times, we could start a list of the most offensive words/phrases. Top of the list for me “Covid Secure” followed by “safe” “shielding” “mandatory” “the science”.
‘Stay safe’ is the one that makes me cringe.
‘Stay sane’ is a good alternative.
Here in Ireland where I now be there were no “shielding” going on but “cocooning”. But sadly those that have now emerged are not quite so liberated as a butterfly.
‘We’re all in it together’ gets me going.
‘care’
Especially from some upper middle class media or public service 100% furlough type.
A friend has a ‘capsule’. More up market, don’t you know.
Not forgetting “Lockdown” – the word previously known only in the context of USA Prisons extra incarceration methods used on Criminals. So we are ALL criminals now?
‘My mask protects you, wear a mask to protect me’
‘Flatten the curve’
‘Public Health England’
‘Secretary of State for Health and Social Care’
Haven’t we forgot about “Flatten the Curve?” That’s the one we need to bring back to remind us exactly why we went down this route in the first place before the goal posts were moved to another stadium, league and sport.
‘stay safe’ for me. Friends(?) use it, I want to hit them.
N E W N O R M A L
Latest ONS registered death figures just released, total deaths 8823 against 9093 average, so 270 fewer deaths than average. That is the 5th week running that total deaths have been below average, at this rate, despite Covid, 2020 could end up being an average year for deaths?
Mind you, even if that is the case, the monstrous test & trace system will still have us all running round in circles, pointlessly chasing our tails!
And still no test required:
Coronavirus (COVID-19) deaths
Coronavirus (COVID-19) deaths are those deaths registered in England and Wales in the stated week where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate. A doctor can certify the involvement of COVID-19 based on symptoms and clinical findings – a positive test result is not required.
Yeah, but apart from that, and the fact the test is no good, and the double counting and the putting anyone down as a covid death even if they fall under a bus, it’s all pretty reliable ‘data’ innit?
Indeed, I understand there was a fatal motorbike crash and Covid was included in the list of causes of deaths! To my mind that is why all we can do is look at total deaths from all causes and they are running at below average. As part of this Covid stuff was to save lives, & as total deaths now below average for 5 weeks running it looks to me like job done, pack up this nonsense and start living again.
Absolutely right, Steve. Absolutely obvious. And absolutely not happening. This should be the big item on mainstream news. But…
Stay Home. Protect the NHS. Save Lives.
We did. Done. They don’t need it.
“We’re in the middle of a deadly pandemic, you know “
“No, we’re at the very end of a completely unremarkable pandemic”
“Unprecedented public health emergency!”
“Yes. Without precedent since 2017/18”
And that’s it. It’s all there in that four line post.
Even the spike in April didn’t make 2019/20 particularly exceptional in terms of mortality – merely the eighth highest since the 1993/94 season (population adjusted – an essential measure).
Since that peak, infection has been on a constant decline to the current insignificant level.
Imagine if we’d always done this stupid Scary Fairy dance every time winter-spring infections rose!
To keep an eye on reality, as opposed to fairy stories :
https://www.cebm.net/oxford-covid-19-evidence-service/
We live in Wonderland now.