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The anti-vaxxers have failed! 70% of UK of adults have been vaccinated

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(@amanuensis)
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Given PHEs figures today its showing our choice of vaccine may well derail the entire vaccination project due to the awful efficacy of AZ v mRNAs

66% v 93% against symptomatic infection for B.117.
60% v 88% against symptomatic infection for 617.2

Qatar today has the efficacy of below 50% for B.1.351 against symptomatic infection.

There's little point vaccinating everybody with a vaccine so poor at preventing infection and therefore cases.

What's derailed the vaccination programme was the asinine push for universal vaccination over targeted vaccination of the most vulnerable and perhaps some health workers, given that the vaccine didn't provide sufficient protection against infection. This has led to the perfect conditions for vaccine escape to develop.

The reason the vaccines are performing so badly now is almost certainly because they've vaccinated so many people.

Yet they're still pushing for surge vaccination. That's quite possibly the worst decision that could be made at this point in time. To surge vaccinate outside of outbreak areas would be bad enough, but to do so within the outbreak areas is staggeringly stupid.

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Aw, bless!
Wrong on so many counts: most of us are not anti-vaxxers, would not presume to impose our will on others, and would only consider this a failure if we were wrestled to the ground and jabbed without our consent.

Meanwhile, I will continue to labour for the restoration of our freedoms and abandonment of plans for digital ID and medical passes.

I'm just grateful to be self-employed with sufficient autonomy to tell authorities to eff off to some degree.

Just dont reply. That avatar is not reflective of a person worth giving any time too. Its purely vulnerable narcissism at this point being protected from karmic forces by the current affairs. Provide that karmic force by no longer feeding this avatar.
Dont be distracted by what is going on.
Sh*t people still exist and the people showing their true colours are now doing so under the guise of a change of identity but it is still the same sh*t person who no doubt throughout their life has never had a solid, conducive and healthy identity that has remained stable over time to hold onto.

Vulnerable narcissism at its finest. See it as petulent antisocial children who have crap caregivers and role models in their life projecting their inadequacies onto the world desperate for someone to tell them everything is okay. Its all about how special they are and nothing you can do is good enough. With narcissism its always done in a way that makes it look like there isnt a problem and what they are doing is normal and you should accept it. Just notice it, disengage and leave the wounded individual to take it upon themselves to heal the void in their life as apposed to forcing you to burden the responsibility of it.

What are you trying to say?
Briefly and with clarity, please.

I think the dumb thinksaboutit is posting, funtimes. This one can't deal with more than a couple of sentences. Its above his or her paygrade.

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(@stpioscafe)
Joined: 3 years ago

Given PHEs figures today its showing our choice of vaccine may well derail the entire vaccination project due to the awful efficacy of AZ v mRNAs

IIRC there was no choice of mRNA vaccine, only two vaccines Pfzer and Oxford were available, we chose Pfizer but had to switch to Oxford when the Pfizer supply (4m doses) ran out.

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(@stpioscafe)
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The sceptics moved on from arguing against restrictions, to arguing against vaccinations.
Where to go now?

You can debate restrictions forever, and vaccinations too, but one thing we tried and definitely did not work properly: NHS Test and Trace, it was a fiasco.

Since another massive NHS project, vaccination, worked well, we have to assume that the NHS Test and Trace failed on practical grounds, it could never have worked. It was simply all wrong, the test framework on which it rested was wrong, the labs were disorganized and flaky, the trace procedures were wrong, the organisation, almost all of the work outsourced to consultants and contractors, was all wrong, the record keeping at every level was wrong, flaky, inconsistent, and corruptible, the various quarantine services were all wrong, the data protection was wrong.

In summary, it was and remains a total shit show, involving use costs, scams, unqualified staff, and so on. So where to go now? Step 1 is to admit defeat, NHS Test and Trace did not work and could never have worked. It is the most extreme form of policy overreach ever seen. Perhaps such a thing might be made to work in a highly regimented totalitarian regime, but we would never want to govern this place like that.

We need to put data protection and right of privacy foremost in our policies to dissuade any future government from again embarking on such a fiasco. And these data protection and right of privacy undertakings should be laminated in international agreements. International agreements are one of the few ways to bind the hands of a UK government.

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72% first dose
43% both doses.

The success goes on.

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