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SIGN THE PETITION AND WRITE TO YOUR MP: OPPOSE MANDATORY OR COERCIVE VACCINATION.

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You'r welcome. One thing I can't help being worried about is that fact that as far as I know,no other nation is in quite such a hurry to rush out this preposterous vaccine as the UK seems to be. This coupled with the fact we are an island and can be sealed off from the world much more easily than we could if landlocked, makes me paranoid with the idea that if it's a disaster, we will be left isolated. It feels like a control experiment. Then again, what do I know?

Chancers in rubber dinghies seem to be able to get here easy enough?

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(@lip09am)
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Ahead of the debate tomorrow in the House of Commons can we get some more people to sign the below petition to Prevent any restrictions on those who refuse a Covid-19 vaccination. Although a bit last minute, it may also be worth writing to your MP about the matter.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/323442?fbclid=IwAR0FJi15JYuWClwoz_OsKvYqzoRU6hxjfE0QYXbGhjBhQRTFmuW2kmtr4vU

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I recently heard from a friend overseas:she had heard "the British public are starting to mass vaccinate."
I was semi-joking when in my A-Z I wrote "UK test population for vaccine." It seems more and more as though the rest of the world is much more cautious about "rolling out" any kind of vaccine.
Although it does seem the US is now following suit. There is something very odd about the rush for Britain to be first to pincushion its citizens.

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(@debra)
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Part one: I always have too much to say 🙄 and my post violates the number of characters allowed!
 
Hello everyone- This is a copy of an e-mail I have received from my Nazi Party MP.
 
I am incensed that they spout the rhetoric that it is morally correct to mandate Vaccines. The data that "it saves many more lives" than if they didn't is, obviously, bunkum, and that natural immunity is “less than” vaccine immunity - especially given that SARS 1 infected people show T-cell immunity 17 YEARS later🙄 and the wonder drug gives 6 months protection (their very own rhetoric - from “The Science” obvs….) thereby needing, very profitable, booster serum injections. I also note the terminology used that NI “raises operational problems” … Mmm! Me thinks this is nothing to do with a health issue? But hey, call me a sceptic and be done with it!🥳🎉👏
 
I would greatly appreciate any assistance in framing my reply - in the strongest terms. - I could just say FU NAZI but I suspect that wouldn't cut it....😏 I have used data from DS to great effect when calling out vacuous commentators on FB but this, I feel, requires a special type of response. I am utterly exhausted at this stage - I am flagging and beginning to despair. I see so many people giving their tacit approval to vax passports (by attending events that demand them) and I am at a loss.
 
Humour, and ridicule, as Toby rightly states, are very strong elements of our armoury - but so are facts and data. As my MP has never voted, or spoken against, anything this “Government “ has done, I am not entirely sure what good it will do to continue my correspondence- but for the sake of my own conscience I can do no less.

PLEASE CAN ANYONE HELP ME?
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(@debra)
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Part 2: The letter as mentioned above.

“As you may know care homes have been by far the hardest hit group for deaths during the pandemic. The reason the Government believes mandatory vaccinations to be morally correct is because mandatory vaccinations will save many more lives than doing nothing. The evidence shows that the vaccination programme has directly averted over 52,600 hospitalisations and analysis on the direct and indirect impact of the programme on infections and mortality suggests between 11 and 12.5 million infections and between 35,200 and 38,600 deaths. Studies have indicated that a single dose of either the Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccine is between 55 and 70 per cent effective at stopping symptomatic disease, 75 - 85 per cent effective against hospitalisation and 75 - 80 per cent effective against death. Of course, people who are vaccinated may still catch COVID-19, as no vaccination offers 100 per cent protection, but the risks associated are significantly reduced. We know that vaccines work and are saving lives. The vaccine also helps to decrease viral load, which means if someone who is vaccinated passes on Coronavirus to another person the newly infected person will be less ill than they otherwise would have been. More information on vaccine effectiveness can be found here:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/998411/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_26.pdf&source=gmail&ust=1627155595634000&usg=AFQjCNGMHvNxo0tKd_xdpGbkoxxPF9kgN g" data-originalfontsize="10pt" data-originalcomputedfontsize="13.333333015441895"> https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/998411/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_26.pdf

The point you bring up about taking into account natural immunity post Covid infection is certainly interesting, however this method was thought to be less effective in Public Health England's consultation. Natural immunity raises a few operational problems. Antibody tests will just tell us if they are currently naturally immune, but wouldn't give an indication as to when this natural immunity would run out. Besides this booster jabs would also be staggered between all care home workers rather than all care home workers receiving booster vaccinations within a smaller time frame, which ensures full confidence that workers would have antibodies.

Further information to any other questions you may have can be found in the link below:

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/making-vaccination-a-condition-of-deployment-in-older-adult-care-homes&source=gmail&ust=1627155595634000&usg=AFQjCNHpZr36jS3W799Mz3qTyo815E13L w" data-originalfontsize="10pt" data-originalcomputedfontsize="13.333333015441895"> https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/making-vaccination-a-condition-of-deployment-in-older-adult-care-homes
 

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