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UKHSA Suddenly Discovers There is No Good Evidence on Lockdowns

by Dr Carl Heneghan and Dr Tom Jefferson
3 October 2023 1:00 PM

In the early summer of 2020, masks were introduced in the U.K. Thereafter, there was a mishmash of weird and wonderful measures that didn’t prevent further restrictive measures or lockdowns. According to Rishi Sunak’s statement to the Spectator, not even Cabinet Ministers were aware of the rationale for this merry-go-round.

As most of the important people making decisions, or at least communicating them, flip-flopped at approximately the same time on both sides of the Atlantic, were we treated to (or should we say, were we victims of) some clockwork change of course?

But why did this take place? Perhaps the question for Trust the Evidence is: on the basis of what new convincing evidence did the flip become a flop? We are unaware of any new high-quality evidence apart from the feardemic the flip-floppers induced.

Now that things have calmed down, we look closer at the efforts to retrofit the evidence to the policy decisions. Keith Duddlestone comments that some folks want to forgive, forget and move on. Some understandably want to do so, as they have suffered enough; others, though, are well aware that these measures will remain on the menu if we do not hold those responsible for their actions.

The reintroduction of masks will depend mainly on the politics of the day. More so the case in the U.S.: the CDC is back recommending face coverings in areas where hospitalisations are high, and some universities announced face coverings would be compulsory for staff and students on their campuses.

Because of the mismatch between policy and evidence, we promised to track the flip-floppers, escape artists, retrofitters and those who have just collected their honours and want to move on.

So, let’s start with the U.K. Health Security Agency (UKHSA). We have documented its dreadful reviews on masks that include the wrong type of evidence to answer the question, including just about anything its researchers could lay their hands on. The garbage in its reviews was presented in Parliament as evidence of effectiveness of mask use. It led us to question whether they had read some of the studies.

However, it now looks as if the UKHSA intends to update and enlarge its evidence dragnet. Now we are told:

There is a lack of strong evidence on the effectiveness of NPIs to reduce COVID-19 transmission, and for many NPIs, the scientific consensus shifted over the course of the pandemic.

Did you note the flip-flop? Consensus shifting, hey. Apparently, “there are specific limitations to the evidence-base for NPIs effectiveness”. Who’d have thought it?

The UKHSA has mapped available evidence by intervention and study design. The map is interesting. It is a cosmology of every non-pharmaceutical intervention (NPI) they can think of. The typology is unclear, but that is not the point. They called it an Evidence Gap Map.

If you go to the page and click the arrows in the boxes at the top, you obtain a detailed list of interventions under each heading.

The map is part of a more detailed 91-page review of ‘What evidence exists of the effectiveness of the NPIs as implemented in the community in the U.K. to control the COVID-19 pandemic?’

The rationale for deconstructing the evidence solely to focus on the U.K. doesn’t make sense. There are certain situations where this might be appropriate. If the issue is genuinely setting specific, e.g. waiting list initiatives, or if the intervention is a U.K.-specific public health intervention alone. But masks are masks, and their deployment and effectiveness in developed countries should be the same as in the U.K.

The boxes in the map show the availability of evidence for each intervention and are almost all bare except for the model row. As no one seems to venture into conducting randomised controlled trials because of the politicisation of the whole issue, we wonder how the UKHSA plans to fill the boxes. With more models? With observational studies or ‘systematic reviews’ carried out by friendly and trustworthy academics carefully directed by the agency? 

Or is UKHSA just playing draughts using a chequerboard of its own design? Whatever, it must get a move on, as more people are asking questions and getting fobbed off, like Philip Davies MP.     

The UKHSA concludes the evidence was “primarily based on modelling studies (100 out of 151 studies) and there was a lack of experimental studies (two out of 151 studies)”.

It goes on to report that:

Whilst this body of evidence overall provides weak evidence in terms of study design (study designs at the lower end of the hierarchy of evidence such as cross-sectional studies are at higher risk of bias than studies at the higher end of the hierarchy of evidence such as RCT) and potentially in terms of study quality (although critical appraisal was not performed), the wider challenges of the pandemic should be acknowledged, including the limited resources that were available.

We did not perform a critical appraisal. Why? Because we didn’t have the resources. This is an astounding statement; it means the UKHSA doesn’t know how to do a critical appraisal.  

Furthermore, it states:

It is also worth noting that the traditional evidence hierarchies and corresponding ‘low level of evidence’ and ‘low or very low certainty’ of the GRADE framework were developed to inform clinical practice where RCTs are feasible, and linear causal pathways are more often the norm.

For this reason, the ROBINs I tool was developed to assess the risk of bias in non-randomised studies of interventions. It’s only been available since 2016 and is the preferred method for Cochrane reviews.

UKHSA says the “next steps are to critically appraise and synthesise the evidence identified on the effectiveness of individual NPIs implemented in community settings to reduce the transmission of COVID-19 in the U.K.”

Despite a lack of resources at Trust the Evidence, we think we can do the job of critical appraisal for them as we’ve done in the past.

The UK Health Security Agency Review – our Trust the Evidence Critical Appraisal

  • U.K. Government Evidence for Mask Mandates – an introduction
  • Mystery studies
  • Studies with non-representative populations
  • Studies with obscure methods
  • Studies with no blinding and no protocol
  • Office for National Statistics – Part 1
  • Office for National Statistics – Part 2
  • Studies which shouldn’t have been in the UKHSA review

Dr. Carl Heneghan is the Oxford Professor of Evidence Based Medicine and Dr. Tom Jefferson is an epidemiologist based in Rome who works with Professor Heneghan on the Cochrane Collaboration. This article was first published on their Substack, Trust The Evidence, which you can subscribe to here.

Stop Press: The BBC reports this morning that face coverings are now needed in clinical areas of three hospitals in Leicester: Leicester Royal Infirmary, the Leicester General and Glenfield Hospital.

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varmint
varmint
9 months ago

“If I played Andy Murray I would lose 6-0 6-0”——-Serena Williams

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Mogwai
Mogwai
9 months ago
Reply to  varmint

B-b-but..Johnson, Sunak and Starmer have all shown us how great they are at being PM!💁‍♀️ So goes the author’s argument…..🙈🤡

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For a fist full of roubles
For a fist full of roubles
9 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Compared to Truss?

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I think there’s a world of difference between being good at becoming PM and being a good PM.

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NeilParkin
NeilParkin
9 months ago

The ‘patriarchy’ is a foolish notion. If you imagine that its a mans world, controlled entirely by men, then you have not understood anything about how the world works.

As for men competing against women in a combat sport, The IOC should hang their heads in shame. I know they won’t, as shame is somewhat out of style, but nevertheless that’s what they should do.

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stewart
stewart
9 months ago

On previous posts I drew a line from the feminist movement which professes that men and women are equal to transgenderism which professes that “man” and “woman” are social constructs and not biological ones.

And I got badly hammered for it by many people.

Transgenderism is extreme feminism. It is rooted in a denial of reality of the nature of men and women.

Interestingly like with other ideologies and religions, the bitterest enemies are often the factions within the same ideology.

The trans people have their most vicious (and effective) opponents in the feminists.

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varmint
varmint
9 months ago
Reply to  stewart

I am not sure if this fine female specimen is a heavyweight or not so perhaps she would not have done that great against Ali ———“Never mind what you see, this gal is gonna fall in 3”

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wokeman
wokeman
9 months ago
Reply to  stewart

Totally agree and what we did through the 20th century was hype the worst elements of masculinity and feminity. So we became overly aggressive and overly emotional, this explains why Nato leaders seem to thinking poking the Russian bear hard when it possesses nukes is sensible. The idiocy of the idea men and women are the same is the same stupidity that underlines all other leftist ideologies, denial of reality.

Men as a group can do all physical tasks better than women as a group, but so what!!! As a group men are useless, as women are alone, we’d become extinct without women who have sacrificed strength as they encumbered with the problem of carrying offspring.

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Epi
Epi
9 months ago
Reply to  wokeman

Women are more efficient at sowing than men that’s not disparaging that’s a fact as they are generally more dexterous having nimble fingers.

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varmint
varmint
9 months ago
Reply to  stewart

Oh dear the lone leftist net zero mass immigration gender crap person is out today to thumbs down all us far right fascists that don’t want to sit in their little castle on top of the moral high ground beside them

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Solentviews
Solentviews
9 months ago

Great article. Thought provoking.

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Elizabeth Hart
Elizabeth Hart
9 months ago
Reply to  Solentviews

It IS thought provoking!
Even though it’s anonymous…

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
9 months ago

Well, quite. As I’ve argued time and again, men and women are physiologically different which creates behavioural differences, which should be accepted and respected. The feminisation of society, which will naturally attempt to become more risk averse, is key to understanding the destructive societal shifts that we are witnessing. The article shines a spotlight on the rank hypocrisy that exists in our society and ponders why that is so. The answer is simple: modern feminism (being distinct from original feminism) is a narcissistic, far-left, ideology that demands that men and women are equal in all aspects and, therefore, must witness equal outcomes… until that equality highlights a difference that is not advantageous to women, and, at that point, society is bullied once again to recognise there just may be a difference here and there after all. As I’ve always maintained, the cake eating brigade are responsible for much of the social destruction. The sooner we get back to respecting each others differences, and start thinking of others rather than the victim in the mirror, the sooner society will repair. It won’t happen anytime soon.

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wokeman
wokeman
9 months ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Original feminism is equally bs, vicious and nasty. Imagine campaigning for the vote through terrorist means, then ww1 comes about where upon you start handing out white feathers to men not at the front line whilst being excused for being there because you are a women! Small point half of men couldn’t vote in 1910 due to the householder rule. Suffragette history is the smelliest bs ever inflicted in the classroom. Btw we’ve now all get a vote on precisely nothing thanks to the extension of the franchise away from households who produce to having everyone voting whether they produce it consume taxes.

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Elizabeth Hart
Elizabeth Hart
9 months ago
Reply to  wokeman

“Btw we’ve now all get a vote on precisely nothing…”
Yep…

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Elizabeth Hart
Elizabeth Hart
9 months ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Re “The feminisation of society, which will naturally attempt to become more risk averse…”
Was the diabolical response to ‘Covid’, against a so-called ‘killer virus’ that doesn’t kill most people, led by women?

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Mogwai
Mogwai
9 months ago
Reply to  Elizabeth Hart

We’re supposed to ignore the irrefutable facts and evidence right before our eyes that it was the vast majority of male leaders and other authority figures who put us all through years of misery and human rights abuses during the Scamdemic. It’s the inconvenient truth that contradicts the misogynists’ warped world view that females are to blame for all the ills in society. Men were just hapless manipulated puppets, therefore absolved of all responsibility, apparently.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
9 months ago

Maybe I’ve just not had sufficient caffeine and haven’t read this article right but is the author seriously saying women aren’t deserving of their sporting achievements and resulting success all because their times/heights/points, whatever it is in that event, are not as good when competing against other females as when compared to the equivalent in the men’s categories?🤔
Then the author goes on to make a straw man fallacy by talking about how women allegedly aren’t as good as men in other areas, such as being Prime Minister?🧐
Is that what they’re seriously saying?

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

No, I don’t think that’s what the author is saying.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
9 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

”Why is it fair that Jamaican Elaine Thompson-Herah can win the 100 metres gold medal at the last Olympics, when her time – 10.61 seconds – would not have enabled her to progress through any of the heats, let alone the semi-finals, had she competed against men? How is it fair to the men eliminated, that runners slower than them should continue to international glory simply because they happen to be women?
If you’re a man and ran the 2003 London Marathon in 2 hours 15 minutes, no-one will have noticed you. A woman, however, running the same time created a world record and got international fame, as well as honours from Her Majesty the Queen. We all remember Paula Radcliffe. The men who ran as fast or faster than her are forgotten.
Why is this fair? More importantly, why is this even allowed?”

You sure about that? A woman can beat a load of other women, fair and square, but because her time is less than men that didn’t get to qualify in the men’s race she’s somehow deemed unworthy of her success and it’s just all so *unfair*?? That’s what I’m getting from the article.
Oh, and men make better CEOs apparently, though regarding the job of Prime Minister, that’s seriously debatable! lol 

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I doubt the author is wanting to abolish female categories in sport. He is just making a point for effect.

I think the author is arguing that men are better, on average, at becoming CEOs – that’s not the same thing as being better.

I’ve taken his general argument to be that we should stop focusing on arbitrary categories and accept that everyone is an individual.

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stewart
stewart
9 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Interestingly, that is the liberal idea. But transgenderism has taken it to the extreme now.

If you look at the Paris Olympics opening ceremony, that was the theme – everyone is an individual, they can be what they like and we should embrace every one’s individuality.

I’ve always considered myself liberal, in the classical sense, but I don’t know what to make of that because it’s deeply unsettling.

I think the problems arise when there is a denial of objective physical reality.

I think I can tolerate any idea but the denial of objective reality I struggle with.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  stewart

Everyone is an individual but that doesn’t mean that objective reality doesn’t exist. People can think whatever they like as long as they don’t expect everyone else to go along with it. I’m not sure I want anyone to “embrace” my individuality – I try to treat people as I find them, and hope people do the same for me – life seems to work better when that happens.

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stewart
stewart
9 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

I agree. BUT, if you follow the logic of the fundamental idea that we each chose to be who we are and accept others as they are without coercion, you reach a fundamental problem.

What do you teach children in school?

If I believe in objective reality, that a man is a man, a woman is a woman and gender is not a social construct but an objective physical reality and someone else believes the opposite, that gender is a social construct and physical reality can and should be adapted to each person’s conceptualised gender, then what do we do?

Do we both get to teach kids each of those ideas and let them decide?

I don’t want my children being taught that madness. I’m happy for people to hold that view but don’t force it on me.

But the trans ideologue can claim that by not allowing him to teach his views, I am forcing my views on others.

I find myself fighting to keep harmful ideas away from kids and I recognise that that’s where my liberalism ends.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  stewart

Good point. I suppose you could teach them that some people believe that “gender” is a thing and others don’t, but depending on the age, it’s going to confuse them. It’s a good argument for complete freedom of choice in schooling – get the state out of education, or give people vouchers if they opt out of state education. I don’t think it would be that hard to find schools that taught objective physical reality.

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stewart
stewart
9 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Couldn’t agree more.

In the meantime, in our current world where the state imposes its extreme.ideology in schools, one is forced into taking an illiberal position of fighting to shut down certain ideas.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  stewart

True, though kids are always going to be exposed to all sorts of ideas that you think are harmful and all you can do is your best in order to give them what you think is the best start in life – which they may well ignore later. Speaking as a parent of grown up kids, it’s like bloody torture sometimes.

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Elizabeth Hart
Elizabeth Hart
9 months ago
Reply to  stewart

Why don’t parents fight back against state interference with their children?
What are schools about exactly?
Should they be just for teaching the basics – reading, writing and arithmetic? And other useful things such as home economics.
Very concerning to think about indoctrinated teachers indoctrinating students.

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Elizabeth Hart
Elizabeth Hart
9 months ago
Reply to  stewart

“…objective reality, that a man is a man, a woman is a woman”.
Exactly.
What happened to this objective reality?
And who is behind destroying it and why?

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Elizabeth Hart
Elizabeth Hart
9 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Re men being better at becoming CEOs…
Like Larry Fink, CEO of Black Rock?
How’s that working out for everyone?

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  Elizabeth Hart

He’s probably quite good at what his job ought to be about – making money – but seems to think he should be saving/re-shaping the world at the same time. Him and lots of others. Seems to be what people want/expect now.

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Elizabeth Hart
Elizabeth Hart
9 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

And why do they have weight categories in boxing?

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IngyPing
IngyPing
9 months ago

Can you please stop using ‘they’ to describe this person. ‘They’ is a plural pronoun and by using it you are buying into the language mangling that the alphabet people have invented to scramble our brains with nonsense about ‘non-binary’. Call the boxer ‘he’ if you want, though ‘she’ in this case is OK as presumably with her particular DSD condition she has the outward appearance of being female. It is her Y chromosome that gives her the unfair advantage in sport and we would not be bothered about her genetic make up if she wasn’t in an olympic boxing ring. Call her ‘it’ even, if you must, but please let’s preserve our English grammar and stop it with the singular ‘they’!!

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Mark Ellse
Mark Ellse
9 months ago
Reply to  IngyPing

Now leaden slumber with life’s strength doth fight;
And every one to rest themselves betake,
Save thieves, and cares, and troubled minds, that wake.
Shakespeare, The Rape of Lucrece

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Mark Ellse
Mark Ellse
9 months ago
Reply to  Mark Ellse

Canterbury Tales:
And whoso fyndeth hym out of swich blame, They wol come up…

Wycliffe Bible, “Eche on[e] in þer [their] craft ys wijs”. 

In part, I suppose, it’s a number issue as much as a gender one: in the second person we have completely dropped singular versions of pronouns.

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RTSC
RTSC
9 months ago

This argument has already been tacitly accepted by the governing class.

It has been argued that if there were more females in the top of the banking profession, the risky behaviour which has led to various banking scandals (for instance the collapse of Barings Bank) would be less likely to happen.

Women tend to be more risk averse than men.

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Elizabeth Hart
Elizabeth Hart
9 months ago
Reply to  RTSC

More concerning is the type of individual who gets to the top, regardless of sex.

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Baldrick
Baldrick
9 months ago

Patriarchy- rubbish! How often do you see stuff about women’s health on websites etc, but never see Men’s health.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
9 months ago
Reply to  Baldrick

Erm, there’s an actual magazine called Men’s Health.🤭
But honestly, the only patriarchy I’m aware of in society is that coming from Islam, which naturally has very real and negative effects on Muslim women. But because of “cultural differences” and good old double standards, the feminists don’t seem overly keen on going there. Hence, it’s yet more proof of how their culture is incompatible with ours.

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Baldrick
Baldrick
9 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Fair enough, but I think there is a bias there.

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WithASmallC
WithASmallC
9 months ago

Leading clergy?? How is this linked to risk taking in any way shape or form?!

Anyway, surely the argument is best summed up as a belief in meritocracy. And the best person for a job might be a man, might be a woman. It’s who is available at the time based on your best evidence.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
9 months ago

The same argument applies to any other arbitrary categorisation of human individuals – for example, by race. Identity politics just leads to bad stuff. I’m a white man. What does that mean? To me, absolutely nothing. I am me. What could it possibly mean, beyond the obvious – I need to be a bit more careful under strong sunshine, it’s easier to pee standing up and I can produce sperm?

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Mogwai
Mogwai
9 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

This is why forever banging on about the whole gender thing is tedious AF, as far as I’m concerned. It’s been rehashed and dissected more times than is strictly necessary and achieves precisely nothing. In fact, I took nothing away from this article at all. It just sounds to me like the author ( I’ll hazard a guess that they’re a man😆 ) is trying to “stir the pot”. Why does the focus always have to be on differences that have always been self-evident since forever?
Men are also evidently better than women at being paedophiles, rapists, terrorists and murderers ( especially serial killers ), but let’s focus on the positive and behold how evidently superior they are at being Prime Ministers instead.😁🤡

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Well yes and no. Lefties bang on about under-representation of their chosen “victim groups” all the time. We either ignore those arguments or try to defeat them with logic. Neither approach seems to work, sadly.

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stewart
stewart
9 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

It can’t be ignored because the feminist movement, once perhaps about ensuring better treatment of women in society, has long been a political movement aimed at women obtaining privileges over men.

That’s in essence the gist of the article.

You are right that men, because of testosterone, are much much more likely to be rapists, murderers, etc. And that is perfectly well reflected in the prison population which is mostly male.

You don’t hear men banging on about how unfair that is and there should be just as women in prisons as men, do you?

I know you don’t like to hear this, but cureent day feminism os about women trying to gain special treatment over men.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
9 months ago
Reply to  stewart

”I know you don’t like to hear this..” How would you know that? Where have I ever said I’m a feminist? And your argument doesn’t explain how it’s feminists who are shafting other women due to their support of these men parodying women ‘trans’ folk. It’s feminists who are fully onboard with men identifying as women gaining access to female’s private spaces, winning Miss World, and god knows what else, we know the drill by now.
I should really correct that by emphasising *some* feminists, given there’s some who are actively opposing all this nonsense, demonstrating how feminism appears to operate on a spectrum nowadays, effectively ensuring the whole thing is meaningless.
What you conveniently fail to acknowledge is the fact that it’s actually the Woketards ( who come in both genders, btw ) who are front and centre at doing a demolition job on society, which would include men’s rights and women’s rights. I think you give the feminists too much credit. Is Mark Adams, director of the IOC, a feminist? As per the article, it isn’t feminists who made sure biological men could compete in the women’s categories at the Olympics, past and present, it’s the Woke ideology that has ensured this can happen. Same goes for all the other areas in society that this is happening, whereby *everybody’s* rights and natural differences are being abused, dismantled and exploited.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
9 months ago

Some years ago whilst at University my son wrote a short piece about exam preparation by men and woman. He argued that men were much more prepared to take a risk and focus all their efforts on some key areas and ignore others whereas women were much more inclined to study and revise everything just to be sure. He was, as you can imagine, duly vilified for his efforts although one female academic privately told him he was quite correct but she would never dare say so in public.

Men do seem to be gamblers, is it nature or nurture? who knows;

”If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss; ”

”He was the kind of man that would gamble on luck
Look you in the eye and never back up”

If you take a risk you can win big or you can lose big. Why are men such big risk takers? is it down to hormones and biology or social conditioning? Either way, the willingness to take a gamble and a risk seems a key factor in male activity.

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paul6316
paul6316
9 months ago

“She has been allowed to compete as a woman…”
The point is, it’s not a woman, so why call it “she?”

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Mogwai
Mogwai
9 months ago
Reply to  paul6316

Exactly. You’re just capitulating to the Woketards, playing into the hands of the biologically male ( as per a sex text, which has proven Y chromosomes present ) imposters. Language is important. Personally I’d use ”he”, or ”they”, depending on the sentence, e.g, ”He is a man”, ”They are men”. Using ”she” just screams acceptance of this nonsense and weakens one’s opposition to what’s happening. ”She is a man” just sounds dumb.

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sskinner
sskinner
9 months ago

To take this a step further do we want women as front line soldiers as warfare does not follow any rules, not even IOC rules?

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rachel.c
rachel.c
9 months ago

What a joke the Olympics and major sporting events have become. (I’ve never recovered my enthusiasm since Lance Armstrong admitted to cheating with drugs in the TdF.) We should boycott them all and go back to supporting our local sporting clubs and events, encouraging boys to be boys and girls to be girls valuing competition and hard work.

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iconoclast
iconoclast
9 months ago

Imane Khelif, the genetic male expected to win a gold medal tonight after beating a woman in the welterweight final at the Olympics, has dramatically focused attention yet again onto sex differences in sport.

Wrong focus.

The problem is woke International Olympic Committee.

They proved that with the ‘last supper’ scene which has been wrongly described as a ‘parody’.

Woke up Woke up Woke up sheeples to the real problems.

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Kornea112
Kornea112
9 months ago

You are equating testosterone levels with IQ and ability levels. I know plenty of smart aggressive dominating women. Your argument is a gross oversimplification that men are naturally better at everything because of a hormone level forgetting all of the other attributes required to rise to a CEO level.

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Epi
Epi
9 months ago

My grandmother could never understand Women’s Lib as far as she was concerned women ruled anyway quietly in the background but none the less ruled!

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