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And Finally…

by Toby Young
17 March 2022 8:40 AM

In this week’s episode, James and I talk about his recent holiday in Costa Rica (he loved the wildlife, but not the masks); whether his neutrality in Russia’s war against Ukraine is because he’s suffering from ‘oikophobia’ (Roger Scruton’s word for people who loathe and detest their homeland); the horror that is the Online Safety Bill; and, in Culture Corner, Horatio Hornblower, Somerset Maugham and the Ipcress File.

You can listen to this week’s episode here and subscribe on iTunes here.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago

Why was Zelensky wearing an iron cross on his T-shirt to address Congress? What has supporting Zelensky got to do with British patriotism?

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Mumbo Jumbo
Mumbo Jumbo
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

I was just about to make the same point as your latter one. We are not at war with Russia, we are just stamping our feet and virtue signalling (we not you and me, but you know what I mean).

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  Mumbo Jumbo

I would love to think these thing were just empty gestures – certainly moral emptiness is exemplified. It seems to me we are in thrall to something very disturbing, and all our elected politicians stand and applaud it – we have never seen scenes like these, yet this is not an admirable man and I don’t recognise my own country. The image look like 1984 or Leni Riefenstahl.

Last edited 3 years ago by PhantomOfLiberty
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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

Just to add to the atmosphere: there is at the moment no NATO no-fly zone over the Ukraine, but there’s still a big push for one. The idea has in no way been “buried”. For example, in the reports of this week’s Russian air strike on Yavoriv, in which three British “ex-soldiers” were apparently killed, you can count numerous references to NATO – the base was “where NATO training drills took place”, it was “near the border of NATO member Poland”, and so on.

If NATO does go for a no-fly zone over the Ukraine, you get nuclear war within a week.

Last edited 3 years ago by Star
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Dodgy Geezer
Dodgy Geezer
3 years ago
Reply to  Mumbo Jumbo

We are not at war with Russia, we are just stamping our feet and virtue signalling…

We are doing much more than that. We are affording full political backing, and full military support short of troops on the ground. Arming one side of a conflict and providing military intelligence and training gets us right in the Russian frame as an enemy. I do not know at what point they will consider us ‘active’ – but the Russians may well be considrering interdicting our supply lines and destroying our satellite reconnaisance capabilities…

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer

Has the Phoney Pharaoh of Harrods stopped selling Russian caviar?

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

In answer to your first question: the big point where you have to start is that the cross on Zelensky’s shirt is a Christian reference. Yes it’s a symbol of the Ukrainian army, but when military thought meets Christian thought we all know what the result is.

Focusing on the Ukraine but spreading around the world, including to Africa and the Middle East, a schism took place in 2018 in Orthodoxy. Some wish it to be (or view it as being) as significant as the 11th century schism between Eastern Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism.

Zelensky could also be about to sell the neo-Nazi Azov Regiment (which prefers the wolf’s angel and the black Sun as its symbols, and is much keener on Slavic paganism than on Christianity), down the river. They’ve probably always hated him anyway, even if they and he have been paid by the same pro-Israeli “oligarch”, Ihor Kolomoisky. There are reports that the Azov have long wanted to “bring the war (the one they have been fighting since 2014 against the Luhansk and Donetsk republics) to Kiev”.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  Star

I doubt whether Zelensky is in a position to sell the Azov Brigade down the river unless he comes to peace terms (which he should do). The Iron Cross admittedly goes back to the Napoleonic wars but it was discontinued after Hitler’s and it is a disturbing sign. Why does Zelensky wear a T-shirt to address Congress? To show off his bulging muscles, so he can stick this disquieting emblem on it? And Congress applaud – he’s making monkeys out of them.

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Old Bill
Old Bill
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

Not just congress though. At the start of the conflict when Russian sanctions were discussed in parliament it was standing room only for the monkey virtue signallers. I wonder how that will contrast with attendance to debate the ‘Online Harms Bill’? aka the Death of Democracy Bill.

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago

“whether his neutrality in Russia’s war against Ukraine is because he’s suffering from ‘oikophobia’ (Roger Scruton’s word for people who loathe and detest their homeland)”

It’s interesting that James has turned out to be more right than wrong in his opinions about COVID and I suspect that events will show he is more right than wrong about the war as well.

I very much doubt that James loathes and detests his homeland. That’s quite a hateful thing to say in fact. Perhaps Toby would let James write an article here to refute that point.

I suspect the reason James doesn’t want us to get involved in the war in the Ukraine is precisely the opposite – he loves his homeland and doesn’t want it to get embroiled in a war which does not concern us, or in sanctions against Russia which, it is already clear, harm us far more than they harm Russia.

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harrystillgood
harrystillgood
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Is Mr. Young in the difficult position where he has to feign scepticism?

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LMS2
LMS2
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

I would suggest that James loves this country, but hates what’s being done to it by our feckless, useless leadership, and the ongoing wokification. That’s how I feel, and many people I know feel the same.
We despise our political establishment as much as they despise us.

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Doom Slayer
Doom Slayer
3 years ago

OT – Telegraph hit job bashing Russell Brand and Joe Rogan getting an absolute pasting in the comments. Always chuckle when journos and media continue to show they are completely detached from the views of their readers (take note TY). Another example of when someone is taking the most flak it means they are right over the target.

Hint
(keep tapping Esc when the page has just loaded to get around paywall if needs be)

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Doom Slayer

Does look like they found something the MSM puppet masters want buried.

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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  Doom Slayer

I’ve always had Brand down as a Pied Piper just looking at his history.

If Russell Brand was really a right-on anti-establishment type, would he really be getting the youtube promotion he’s had?

Hugo makes some good points too
https://odysee.com/@hugotalks:8/Russell-Brand-Wants-A-ONE-WORLD-GOVERNMENT-Hugo-Talks2:b

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harrystillgood
harrystillgood
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

I think it’s simpler than that. Mr. Brand goes far. But still stops when the going gets tough. But can you point at anyone who does not suffer this kind of failure?

Wait… there was a guy about 2000 years ago who went all the way. And the people nailed him to a tree for it.

(I”m not religious by the way. But what he’s alleged to have said is unanswerable)

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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  harrystillgood

But can you point at anyone who does not suffer this kind of failure?

James Corbett, but they deleted his ~14yrs worth of youtube videos.

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LMS2
LMS2
3 years ago
Reply to  harrystillgood

If he went any further than he does, he wouldn’t have a YouTube channel. He’d be cancelled like so many others.

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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  LMS2

Maybe that’s the point. Self Censorship is acquiescing to tyranny. He’s in a position to challenge it, yet he doesn’t.

Like he can’t afford to stream his own show and say what he wants, go all the way. I know some doing it on a shoestring, e.g. Dr. McCairn, Corbett hosts all his own stuff as a backup too.

you can call him saying we need a global goverment “misinterpreted” if you like, I’m not having it personally. How much have you researched his past, all the occult tattoos, his ex fiance, that whole “Obey” thing too, he’s dodgy AF.

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LMS2
LMS2
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

I think Hugo might be a bit off the mark with this. There’s nothing I’ve heard from Brand to suggest that. Perhaps it’s been misinterpreted.

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LMS2
LMS2
3 years ago
Reply to  Doom Slayer

All the comments have been deleted entirely for that article. Cowardly behaviour by the DT, public a dishonest hitpiece, then deleting the comments calling it out.

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harrystillgood
harrystillgood
3 years ago

What do you call someone who loves their country, but hates it’s leadership?

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realarthurdent
realarthurdent
3 years ago
Reply to  harrystillgood

Patriot?

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harrystillgood
harrystillgood
3 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Oh yes, good one

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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  harrystillgood

far right, antivaxer, conspiracy theorist, terrorist

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harrystillgood
harrystillgood
3 years ago

What does a nation do, when it finds its leadership is systemically corrupt and its social institutions are no longer serving the great masse?

Does it continue to support it? Or does it call for the execution of it’s leadership?

Answer: History so testifies. The question is, when will the people start executing its leadership?

It was curious yesterday when Facebook decided it was OK to hate Russians but not its leadership. And is there a situation where it’s OK to call for the execution of ones leaders?

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iane
iane
3 years ago

Toby Wrong’s main approach now to careful reasoning seems to be to aim ridiculous and thoroughly unpleasant insults at his opponents. I am getting seriously worried about his mental health.

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