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UK Electricity Grid Rescued by Gas as Massive Winter Wind Droughts Disrupt Supply

by Chris Morrison
18 April 2025 11:00 AM

Sunning himself in some Spanish spring sunshine, the British Prime Minister is no doubt relieved that the Supreme Court back home has given him some much needed guidance on the biology of a woman. But we must hope his holiday good humour is being disturbed by news that the breezes that will power his new socialist economic miracle went on strike during significant parts of the first quarter. In a colder-than-usual winter, windmill output fell by 11%, pushing up demand for gas and imports and causing a number of unstable and highly expensive price spikes. What dick is in charge at the Department of Energy, he might be asking himself.

Step forward Ed Miliband, whose entire political career now seems to rest on his ability to keep a straight face while stating that the unreliable breezes and sunbeams are cheaper than regular-as-clockwork gas. According to Montel Analytics, low levels of renewable generation and high demand drove gas-fired power production to its highest level since 2021 for the first three months of 2025. But this gas rescue act came at a large cost since Britain’s increasingly unstable electricity supply, which provides some of the highest prices in the world, showed wild cost swings in windless days in January. On at least two freezing winter days, wind production was more-or-less zero. Not untypical winter weather conditions also saw the sun fail to shine for a number of consecutive days. Some periods saw the wholesale peak-time electricity price top £160 per megawatt hour ((MWh). On January 8th, when winter high pressure stopped the wind blowing across the UK, the wholesale price soared to £300 MWh, while the sophisticated clearing price needed to balance the non-storable supply with instant demand soared to £2,900 MWh.

Gas-generated electricity rose to 26.8 TWh during the first quarter, a rise of 13% from Q4 2024 and the highest Q1 level for four years. This despite considerable new wind capacity coming online. Wind generation fell to its lowest first quarter output since 2020. Britain sits on huge reserves of onshore gas and offshore hydrocarbons but over the winter the Mad One ordered two remaining gas fracking wells near Blackpool to be destroyed. Despite an official admission that gas will be needed for renewable electricity back-up into the foreseeable future, new oil and gas exploration has been stopped. And continuing with the de-industrialising, job-destroying, national security harming themes, a new coking mine in Cumbria was recently knocked on the head and this may have contributed to the economic woes of steel-making at Britain’s last blast furnaces in Scunthorpe.

A modern electricity system fit to power an advanced industrial society is highly complex and must take account of large swings in demand throughout a 24-hour period. Power has to be instantly supplied whatever the time of day, weather conditions and the industrial or social activities a population of nearly 70 million people choose to undertake. Last winter saw long periods of wind drought causing chaos to this delicate operation and the UK was lucky to avoid serious blackouts. The German word for such a drought is dunkelflaute which might roughly be translated as ‘no frigging wind’. It might also be noted that the eco-zealots led by the Mad Miliband who are destroying a once reliable cheap electricity system and causing mass de-industrialisation have no frigging idea what they are doing.

The big lie of course is that renewable power is cheaper than gas. Many commentators including David Turver in the Daily Sceptic have shown this is deluded poppycock. The lie travels around the TV and radio studios because £15 billion of annual renewable subsidies are ignored. Without these subsidies, which add hundreds of pounds to the electricity bills of rich and poor alike, nobody would instal a windmill or solar farm. Add in the extra costs of grid balancing, backup and necessary expansion of the network and it is not difficult to see why some of the highest prices for electricity in the world are driving industry away from the UK. Turver notes that “if something needs a subsidy, it’s more expensive”. But few want to acknowledge the huge elephant in the room since Net Zero is not subject to rational mathematics and science. The obvious reason for this is that it is a political agenda. A fake climate crisis, accepted for 20 years by media outlets such as the BBC without a scintilla of convincing proof, is mobilised to achieve long sought after hard Left collectivist ambitions.

Another reliable commentator is Paul Homewood and he has been working on the true electricity figures for many years. “These subsidies have to be paid because renewables are intrinsically much dearer than gas power, not the reverse,” he observes. But the house of cards is undoubtedly starting to sway in the sceptical breezes. Journalist legend Andrew Neil recently posted on X his frustration with those interviewing Miliband by suggesting they “need to be better briefed so they can call him out when he spouts nonsense”. Miliband often claims the UK is in the grip of petro-state dictators, yet in the absence of job-creating fracking, Britain obtains most of it foreign gas from Norway and the USA. On the other hand, Miliband was noted to have recently travelled to China to plead for stakes in green UK infrastructure. Not so much a petro-state dictatorship, points out Neil, just a dictatorship.

Chris Morrison is the Daily Sceptic’s Environment Editor.

Tags: Climate AlarmismDunkelflauteFossil fuelsGasNational GridNet ZeroOilRenewable energyWinter

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Ossettian
Ossettian
4 years ago

I nornally read the comments first but as there aren’t any I’ll have to go straight ATL.

At least it is Will.

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popo says
popo says
4 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

Brave man!

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  popo says

It’s high time Europe’s lockdown rebellion spread to Britain

Sonia Elijah
February 12, 2021
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/its-high-time-europes-lockdown-rebellion-spread-to-britain/

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

The British do not benefit from their relative placidity, that’s for sure.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  popo says

A lesson in oppression for the mask generation
By
Sophie Birtles
February 12, 2021
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/a-lesson-in-oppression-for-the-mask-generation/

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

Horrible.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  popo says

Uk Police Catch Saucy Couple Doing A Bit Of Dartmoor Dogging
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AutekwKhAGU&list=WL&index=31

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

When there’s a Will, there’s a way.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

Will you give it a rest?
Or: where there’s a will there’s a family argument.
Take which you will.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  Dermot McClatchey

Michael Gove, the Brexit betrayer
By
Timothy Bradshaw
February 12, 2021
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/michael-gove-the-brexit-betrayer/

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

Let me know if there’s anything of interest up there- I haven’t looked ATL for three days now.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago
Reply to  Dermot McClatchey

Yes. Today’s has some good critique.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

Thanks, CZ!

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Binra
Binra
4 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

If it isn’t the same critiques as have been reiterated – or rather coming from the same framed narrative reaction – then I missed it.
For anyone new LDS may of course be a stepping stone. But a stepping stone is not a destination.

To be fair, ATL is expressly a limited hangout in that from the outset it was not going to allow crackpot theories. Which provided a kettle within which to talk about covid like we might talk about football or the weather.

As I see covid as being a many levelled intent to lockdown consciousness as well as freedom of movement or business, the degradation and redefining of the mind as dispossessed but ‘happy’ or reprogrammed to system compliance as the new normal for ‘social virtue’, and etc, I feel the most important defence or resilience to the mind-virus is the re-education and development of consciousness from a new place, as a mind renewed and not as a reset to the same old control but ratcheted up as biosecured, carbon assets, under mainstreamed groupthink enforced by robots.

There was a complaint of the replacement of clinical judgement by medical mandates. A bit late! The replacement of doctoring by clinical skills with pharma dictated biomarkers and standard of care had degraded doctors to be replaced by robot-screen dispensers, along with any other system management for the underclass. Life is being replaced with system efficiency under corporate structures that are themselves captured and controlled by the system of finance and law that they are expressions of.

‘Killing the goose that lays the golden egg’ or ‘Midas finding you cant eat gold’, A ‘monopolistic tower disintegrates to babble’ – the mythic record is full of condensed wisdom-experience that the active-ignorant and arrogant have no basis by which to recognise that wisdom is NOT control over fear nor the invoking of deep demonic fear and forces for the sake of gaining a dream of ‘Control’. Wisdom is a discernment within the whole, not fear distanced, locked down and set apart and over its experience.

There is a view that says that our only opportunity for healing the deeper ills that plagued even our old normal*, is in the exposure to awareness of it.
(*but were effectively lidded over and masked out for the many),

My sense of life is that denied conflicts are carried and active in our lives and world regardless our surface awareness of them. Reconciling our selves and our world with Reality is not a bargain struck!

“Forgives us our illusions as we forgive them in others”.
Integrity is not a tick boxed social mask of correctness, but a truly integrated life. Where there are areas we are unable or unwilling to face, the mind generates ‘protections’ as bubble ‘realities’ of a limiting substitution and displacement, that operate an evasion in delay. This is called ‘control’ or indeed power. That closing of our eyes or mind can shut off a living Universe from awareness, is a kind of freedom or power, but while it can provide time or space in which to grow willingness, it does not change the underlying Law that a Living Universe is the manifestation of. Hiding or masking narratives are a form of magic that demands the distortion and perversion of logic.

If this novel ‘virus’ had not been ‘discovered’ as a needle in a haystack of selected code fragments put together again with computer software, and run with by a rabid media blitzkrieg that displaced all else to shape the minds that gave attention their, what would have been different? Allow that the reactions generated upon organised panic are the principle destructive event still unfolding a fear and control agenda within the frame of the narrative set.

Nothing is more dangerous than a false basket of protection into which all our eggs are placed, while the centralisation of power and wealth always becomes the possession of control over subjection. Monopoly is not relational. That is to say there is no life or love in it. It’s a dead thing and a death cult founded on dead concepts. To which the living give sacrifice in order to get for themselves alone. To get their protection for a locked down, distanced and supported masking. This IS a choice.

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

Although I would have liked to see some of the stuff which is at the bottom featured as a leading article instead of just copying from MSM.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  Ossettian

Trump’s Lawyer Uses Video Montage of Dems to Absolutely DESTROY Their Case
BlazeTV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdwR4s_3CQI
Trump’s lawyer David Schoen just played a DEVASTATING video montage of Democrats and their incitements of violence which blows apart their entire impeachment case. WATCH Trump Lawyer EXPOSE Dems for playing manipulated video of Capitol Rio

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TheClone
TheClone
4 years ago

The real conspiracy theorists believe that the government cares about them, the media would never mislead or lie to them and the pharmaceutical industry that makes billions off sickness wants to cure them.

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jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
4 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

They are not stupid but evil.its important to make that distinction.

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Binra
Binra
4 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

We would be wise to recognise that evil is consequence NOT a true cause.
The cause of evil is the sin of placing self-illusion above real relationship.
This error is correctable. But it runs as a mindtrap.

Sin is not self imaginings as such, but of giving them priority over truth, such as to usurp the mind that MUST then deny and attack truth as threat to its ‘self-invested illusion’. Threats are seen as evils – even if they are a genuine feedback, such as to be denied and sacrificed for the ‘survival of the self-illusion or system that proceeds from it.

Another means by which evil comes in is the wish to generate meanings and narratives to divert away from self-exposure so as to divert from the obvious denial of truth and lack of substance in all kinds of tricks.

The ‘necessary evil’ or the ‘noble lie’ is the foundation of doublethink or masked self contradiction as a basis for a mind and a world of such mindset. It generally posits as the lesser of evils when set against feared or modelled outcomes.

The mind can model virtual outcomes without computers, but taking the modelled outcome as a fact and reacting as if it is true is to exchange a wish or a fear for a living truth.

The manipulation of the mind begins with wish and fear made ‘real’ by giving priority of energy and attention (or funding and resources for the collective mind). This generates scarcity and fear of lack, conflict and competition, set in power struggle as weapons of deceit.

The need to believe and worship evil as a cause stems from the uncovering of hate, attack and guilt in our self as a horror to be excommunicated, eradicated, cast out or cast in a masking displacement layer of self justification. What we give energy and attention to is what we feed and fund and value by action, regardless the mask of ‘war on evil’.

This consideration of evil and its characteristics continues on:
https://willingness-to-listen.blogspot.com/2021/02/evil-is-consequence-not-true-cause.html

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Binra

Nothing remotely noble about what they are up to. They want the planet for themselves and we are in the way. The vaccines are here to fix that.

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jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
4 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

Rushing out an experimental vaccine ,which they know is killing people,is evil in my book

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

Think it might have been Sergey Brin who said he’d never been able to write a patch for stupidity.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

Calling the government stupid is letting it off the hook.

Last edited 4 years ago by Rowan
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J4mes
J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

This hoax has proven beyond doubt the stupidity of the public has reached dangerously high levels.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Yes, the high level of public support for the highly malevolent UK government would strongly support that view.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Electing this lot in the first place had already made the point.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

After a lot of scare propaganda about Corbyn which gave us Johnson, we now get scare propaganda about the new Black Death…

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Binra
Binra
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

I focus more on buying into the circus of diversion from the underlying regulatory capture. Vengeance doesn’t correct error to restore the conditions for live to flower and thrive or in a truly living sense, survive.

They are groomed as media fronts to face out the leveraging that is orchestrated in private and rubber stamped for public consumption. Or indeed predation upon the public as a result of Private ‘partnering’ (sic).

By all means uphold the law that represents and serves the sovereignty of the common people. I don’t know if rehabilitation is possible, there has to be a willingness. An addict has to bottom out in some way that gives them their life back against all hope or expectation, and as a basis to live from a renewed sense of life and purpose, one step at a time.

I appreciate that people seek to make sense within what they know, but the nature of current events is to reveal that all we thought we knew was wrong or at the least fundamentally questionable.

Perhaps the incoming technocratic saviours will appeal to your desire to damn and destroy their proxies along with what’s left of any social and parliamentary structure for political oversight.

There HAS to be huge influence at back of all this. the seeming leaders are as little dogs barking madly with impunity because they and others in any position, know that wealth, influence and power of penalty is supporting the show. Without financial QE style bailout and lube, this whole thing would be dead in the water in a day!

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Van Allen
Van Allen
4 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

Yes I’m pretty jealous of those living in LaLa land with a loving caring Government and freedom just around the corner.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Van Allen

Somewhere over the rainbow.

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  Van Allen

Freedom is always just around the corner. So is enslavement.

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Binra
Binra
4 years ago
Reply to  bebophaircut

Slaves live the hope that freedom is coming.
A dissociation from present experience is set in past and future.
True presence is not a narrative identity.
Or narrative stamped on the face of the present.
Jealousy and envy operate from self-lack – which is the same as the above.
These are reintegrative or ‘spiritual’ considerations.
As an undoing or healing of the dissociative and segregative – that becomes disintegrity and destructive to the whole.
Where is our freedom right here and now?
Does the reader go to the head or the heart for answer?

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albert hall
albert hall
4 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

Not to mention a very large part of the population

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Rich
Rich
4 years ago

Good morning all! Hoping to spread some hope and peace to you all…

Let’s keep our spirits up and avoid the mental pitfall of boundless pessimism. It’s a human tendency for us to dwell too much in the present, and feel that things will continue as they are, but they never do! As unprecedented as these lockdowns are in their severity and scope, this is far from the first time in history that a new pathogen has been met with draconian measures. There is a predictable “new pathogen” response cycle that societies tend to go through, and we will most definitely come out of this cycle just like we did all the others. Hopefully this time we will finally learn the lesson of liberty that this educational episode can teach us.

Today I found this interview with Jeffrey Tucker (Great Barrington Declaration fame) to be very uplifting – his positivity and historical knowledge is amazing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzYLIJ3nmEs

If you’d like to zone out for a bit, here’s a hopeful video I watched recently:
https://youtu.be/KsVW2BuLLKs

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Rich

Hear hear. Wallowing in pessimism helps no one.

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I think that’s untrue. Wallowing in pessimism helps governments, sage scientists and pharmaceutical companies.

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maggie may
maggie may
4 years ago
Reply to  Rich

Thank you for this. This morning reading the piece about vaccine passports, i have felt more demoralised than ever. i have already had a large chunk of the rest of my life removed by the government and it looks like another large chunk is going to go too, ie 2021, i don’t want the vaccine although i have now been invited to make an appointment, being of a certain age. Just hope i will not be prevented from doing anything enjoyable (which in my case is not a lot, i don’t ask for much!) in the future if i continue not to have a vaccine. But your post has given me some optimism again. Thanks

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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
4 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

Its hard. Just had this conversation with my wife. She wants to have the jab so she can “get back to normal and get on with her life,” but why would this government give you back your life? Its so easy for them. They know where you are and you’re not going anywhere. Can’t protest, can’t complain, can’t hurt them. Lovely! I think my wife just wants to go on holiday. But that will be awful, tests, masks, tests, more masks. Not really much of a holiday, then prison when I get home, sounds dreamy!

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lizzie81
lizzie81
4 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

I don’t think I will ever be able to leave the country again…😞 there is no way I am having a “vaccine”

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Pebbles
Pebbles
4 years ago
Reply to  Rich

Thanks Rich. It’s been a demoralizing news round up this morning.

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Binra
Binra
4 years ago
Reply to  Pebbles

The hope that ‘it will go away’ is the susceptibility to pitfalls of despair. Putting faith in externals is giving power away. If every time a liar lies, you see untruth, then you are not looking for truth from where it is not.
Then you will see what is not being said and what is being revealed behind the attempt to conceal, not within a complex of deceits, but as the mask over hidden truths.
Those fixated on external outcomes do not see or want or value truth except it serves the outcome.
If you love life and live the loving, and this is true, then this is a foundation not to be abandoned for the fears that would rob you of it – so as to ‘sell it back to you’ inside a package of false premises for protection or profit.
If we do not use adversity to connect at the heart, we give it the power to destroy our lives – even if the shell is left intact.
Hope of change is surely not unfounded in a realm of always changing, but to see the true paths and opportunities calls for being truly present and alert – not least to mind viruses! But also for our peace.
The mind does not have it and can never give it, while divorced from the heart and struggling to manage from a distanced, locked down sense of lack and grievance. The calm of a true peace is not a medicating tranquilliser, but the embrace of what is here within being simply and directly present. This means learning to not let the mind get in the way as an already reactive emotional state.
How can we be responsible for a life that everyone else is in ‘control of’?
If we neglect what is within our own sphere of responsibility while driven to change what is not our personal or direct responsibility.
So it is not the hope of a positive change that is wrong so much as putting all our eggs in needing it to occur according to our ‘terms and conditions’ or those of others who set their ‘offers’ seeking consent under duress and misinformation that hope WANTS to be true or fears to question.

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Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
4 years ago

Somebody needs to throw the first stone.But who and when?.I’m through with idle chat and pondering this and that.Words require actions.For every action there is a reaction it’s our lives at stake here not our frail liberties.

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karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago

‘Another Government U-turn.
Vaccine Passports on the way’

The lockdown junta are boring in their predictably.

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TheClone
TheClone
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Show me your papers! Are you a second or third class citizen? I am the controller of the papers and so I am above all of you!

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It isn’t a U-turn, though. They lied in the first place: this was always the planand it won’t stop at trips abroad.

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stewart
stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  jb12

Very good point. The media isn’t even able to call out blatant government lies.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I notice the tabloids like The Sun try to be upbeat, The Grauniad in contrast likes to doom-monger.

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It sounds as if a lot of countries expect other countries will demand proof of vaccine so they prepare for it. That is what I understand Sweden’s official line is.
So, just like lockdown, everyone is copying everyone.

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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

“Manchester-based cybersecurity firm VST Enterprises has signed a deal with digital health company Circle Pass Enterprises (CPE) to create a digital health passport designed to “manage a safe return to work, life, and safe travel” after the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic.

The two companies have partnered to create “the world’s most secure digital health passport”, known as Covi-pass, and according to VST Enterprises, are committed to working with governments and “major stakeholders” to deploy the technology.

CPE will ship the digital health passports to 15 countries around the world, including Italy, Portugal, France, Panama, India, the US, Canada, Sweden, Spain, South Africa, Mexico, United Arab Emirates and The Netherlands, with the goal of supplying 50 million digital health passports. The first passports will begin shipping from next week.

VST Enterprises’s VCode and VPlatform technologies will be integrated into the Covi-pass to ensure it is secure.”

11th May 2020….

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Elisabeth
Elisabeth
4 years ago
Reply to  LMS2

The globalist filth has been planning this for a while

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james007
james007
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I think we should stop talking about u-turns. They imply that the Government was going in one direction with a purpose, only to change their mind.
For over a year now they haven’t had the faintest clue what to do about Covid-19. Without the technocrats telling them what do, they would have no ideas at all. Rather like Corporal Jones on Dad’s Army, they are running around screaming “don’t panic! Don’t panic!” Whilst thowing grenades in all directions.
They are like children, deluded into think they are great men of state.

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Elisabeth
Elisabeth
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

„East German government: @we have no Intention of building a Wall“

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jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
4 years ago

Note to Will and Toby.It not a u turn when this has been the plan all along.
It’s called deception and they won’t just be for holidays,they will be needed to access normal life.Be a proper journalist and research the Chinese Social credit system.
Q codes,track and trace,temperature scans and masks are all just conditioning to get us to accepted the premise.

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jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
4 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

Reply to myself.They did highlight China in the article.My apologises.This is the future they have planned for us.If anyone is in any doubt to the Governments malign intentions this should dispel it.
We have a small window in the summer to stop this before a critical mass of people have been vaccinated.

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kpaulsmith1463
kpaulsmith1463
4 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

…OR before a critical mass of people explode, as things reaching critical mass tend to do.

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Mr Taxpayer
Mr Taxpayer
4 years ago
Reply to  kpaulsmith1463

Agreed. Let’s hope for a hot Easter and May BAnk Holiday for a mass outbreak of “Enough is enough”. Never have I looked forward more to the prospects of huge crowds heading for beaches and tourist spots.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr Taxpayer

Hear hear

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  kpaulsmith1463

Yes, all empires fall and all despots meet their end. This happens throughout history.

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stewart
stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

Tool 70 years in Russia.
The CCP reached 70 and going strong.

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

history is very reassuring to me now and so many peopel here know so much about histroy i love reading the commenst thank you all

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Woden
Woden
4 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

Good sunny summer weather will help

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Woden

But will it change a malevolent government, which is clearly working to the globalist depopulation agenda. This sold out government is in it far too deep to back off now and it will push this madness to the bitter end.

Last edited 4 years ago by Rowan
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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

Yes, vaccination in the key. They are so intent on injecting people with biological agents, which have nothing to do with disease prevention , that we can be absolutely certain that their intentions are totally malign. People who still fall for the government nonsense will deserve all they get, but of course they are dragging the rest of us along into the nightmare scenario.

Last edited 4 years ago by Rowan
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Pebbles
Pebbles
4 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

Thank you for saying it as it is. Since last year I have sent emails to Toby et all saying “look at the bigger picture”… they have a bigger plan. It’s a global-fascist coup d’état, not governmental incompetence. I wonder when, if ever, he will come round to that that the Chinese Control State was always the goal, depopulation via vaccines par for the course.

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Thomas_E
Thomas_E
4 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

Agreed..this will not stop at travel.When your employer asks you for a vaccine certification or no job ,shit will hit the fan and I will have to have a deep look at my self and just how strong are my conviction. I think that right at the end I will be forced to take it in order to feed my family. Or I will put a gun in my mouth. Both are options I have been thinking a lot about lately.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago
Reply to  Thomas_E

Guns in mouths don’t feed families!

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Thomas_E

Those taking the vaccines are effectively putting a gun to their own mouth. This is all about depopulation and the vaccines are their weapon. The only option is resistance.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Totally agree

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Janette

There are people who seem to think it’s all lockdowns. It isn’t, as you know.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Thomas_E

So glad I don’t have a family – and most of all that I’m retired. If push comes to shove – I will be off – only I will use carbon monoxide (I gather one is asleep literally in a matter of minutes and painlessly – provided pppm is high enough – ie parts per million). I’m not having the Vax no matter what ever.

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Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
4 years ago

No intention of travelling again.My partner is from Slovakia and that’s under despotic control because somebody sneezed in Bratislava 11 months ago so that suits both of us.In the absence of an Aviation Industry it’s all irrelevant.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

Travel means nothing, if a compulsory lethal injection is part of the deal.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Well, death is the ultimate journey. Of course, they can’t say the jab is what brings you there…

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Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
4 years ago

My Agency texted me all front line workers to be vaccinated by the 15th of Feb this is in Wales.My response short and sweet.I know plenty of Nurses who are saying no so watch the shitty care Home sector collapse as the Foreign Legion and the Africa Corp attempt full control of the day to day running of these camps.

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
4 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

Thank you for standing up for yourself and other healthcare professionals who are being coerced into taking an untested, experimental gene therapy. I can only hope there are enough of you and of us laypeople who refuse. Coercion is not informed consent.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

Yes let’s hope so

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RoseE
RoseE
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

I think there’s a new definition of Informed Consent. You have been informed. You will consent.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

You have my respect, Teddy.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

ine
God damn Dungford and his foul, filthy minions.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

I’d be interested to know exactly how they phrased that “request” (aka instruction) please. (Willing to bet it was phrased along lines of “You are all to ensure you have been vaxxed by 15 Feb”, rather than “We’d like to request that those who have decided to have the Vax ensure it is done by 15 Feb”). I don’t blame you for giving short/sweet response whatever way they phrased it = your body your choice. Do keep us posted.

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Pebbles
Pebbles
4 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

Thank you for saying NO. If you need ammunition, please show them the UK Medical Freedom Alliance latest letter in pdf format that outlines the severe adverse reactions and deaths in care homes. They also have the Informed Consent Letter…

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fiery
fiery
4 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

Well done for not agreeing to have the vaccine although sadly the majority of nurses and medical staff will happily agree to be injected as being assertive simply isn’t in their nature.

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Sceptical Steve
Sceptical Steve
4 years ago
Reply to  fiery

As we saw a couple of days ago, the government’s plan is to coerce health professionals and the over 70s into having the jab, on the basis that their failure to do so will delay the ending of the lockdown for the rest of us.

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Alex B
Alex B
4 years ago

When things get crazy, and things for the last year have been off of the Richter scale crazy, like many people who visit and comment here I, all of us, find solace in something to try and keep an even keel. For me it’s music and photography, and books and poetry; so I thought I’d offer this, a poem I love and has meaning for me in these dystopian times.
[as freedom is a breakfastfood] by e.e.cummings

as freedom is a breakfastfood
or truth can live with right and wrong
or molehills are from mountains made
—long enough and just so long
will being pay the rent of seem
and genius please the talentgang
and water most encourage flame

as hatracks into peachtrees grow
or hopes dance best on bald men’s hair
and every finger is a toe
and any courage is a fear
—long enough and just so long
will the impure think all things pure
and hornets wail by children stung

or as the seeing are the blind
and robins never welcome spring
nor flatfolk prove their world is round
nor dingsters die at break of dong
and common’s rare and millstones float
—long enough and just so long
tomorrow will not be too late

worms are the words but joy’s the voice
down shall go which and up come who
breasts will be breasts thighs will be thighs
deeds cannot dream what dreams can do
—time is a tree(this life one leaf)
but love is the sky and i am for you
just so long and long enough

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Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  Alex B

Lovely but the broken dong concerns me would a handful of fiery jack improve that condition?

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Alex B
Alex B
4 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

😀

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

Shades of Larry Grayson.

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Woden
Woden
4 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

Is this the Dong with the Luminous Nose?

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago
Reply to  Alex B

They tuck you up, your mum and dad. Look after your grandchildren if you can.

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primesinister
primesinister
4 years ago

 Dan Hodges talking about suicide clueless prick ,,, as i have contemplated this during low moments and all due to lockdown.

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Charlie Blue
Charlie Blue
4 years ago
Reply to  primesinister

Hodges enraged me with this guff. And what the hell is a “senior mental health charity”?

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stewart
stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Blue

Just another of bunch of puffed up social scientists who don’t realise how little they actually know about anything.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago
Reply to  primesinister

Another Red Prince, best ignored.

Last edited 4 years ago by Nigel Sherratt
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Spikedee1
Spikedee1
4 years ago
Reply to  primesinister

Yes I have no proof but you must be wrong because I said so. What am arrogant twat!

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Scotty87
Scotty87
4 years ago

I haven’t flown since 2014, and now I can happily announce that I won’t fly until this wretched exercise in vaccine coercion is completely dismantled.

I don’t care if it takes 10 years.

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
4 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

I do believe my travel days are over. It used to make me very sad, but as each country is worse than the next I don’t believe I’ll be missing anything. The best I can hope for is that the Canada-US border opens up to vehicular traffic at some point in my lifetime and I can drive to a sane place like Florida for a vacation. I used to hate Florida, but everything is topsy turvy now.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
4 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

That is all very well but many people have family in other countries, we have family in Calgary and our twin grandsons are in Kampala, as far as my wife and I are concerned, in the end, we will do whatever it takes to get to see them.
I do feel that there is a problem with this vaccination passport as unlike yellow fever etc, this vaccine is thought to have a limited protection period and so there is going to be quite an issue keeping it up to date.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

It will cause such chaos that they will have to drop it.

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Suzyv
Suzyv
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

That has occurred to me too. What about all the people who can’t have vaccines due to health, allergies, pregnancy etc. I suppose they will say get a letter from your GP, then the GPs will be complaining they are inundated and cannot do it. There are disability discrimination issues although that’s only for the UK it’s upto each country what their own laws are. Protected characteristics under the Equalties Act includes health but also religion and philosphical issues. Then there is the Data Protection Laws and Human Rights Laws certainly all applicable across Europe.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

Not only that, but different victims will have had different snake oils, and some countries will accept some oils but not others.

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stewart
stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Did you not notice how quickly the WHO jumped in to squash the squabbling over the Oxford vaccine?

Anyone who thinks there isn’t some form of supranational coordination going on is simply not paying attention.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I think you’re correct, Annie. My concern is that these bastards are in this for the long game.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Fingers crossed

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Sorry to hear this and I have been surprised to find the number of “international” families there seems to be these days – as I can think of very few personally and those don’t maintain regular physical contact. But do please consider responsibilities to others (ie the wider Society) and stay unvaxxed – and not let the Government use “international” families as a “thin end of the wedge” to push the Vax on the rest of us.

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

I too, have been surprised by how many people have family abroad. Also astonished at quite how many people regard international travel as a normal part of their lives. It’s only the events of the past year that have actually confronted me with the stats and made me think about this aspect of modern life. I am curiously naive about the world in which everyone else lives.
I’ve only been on an aeroplane once (or twice, if you include the return trip) and that was for a school trip in 1972. Mrs F has never been on a plane at all. The whole idea of getting on one of those flying tubes and going to foreign, and potentially dangerous lands, fills me with horror. Mind you, the idea of staying in this country with the kind of future the tyrants have planned for us, and the kind of zombies who apparently make up the majority of the population, now fills me with horror too.

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

in the end, we will do whatever it takes to get to see them.

….. and it could kill you and you might never see them again

yes having family in other countries makes it much more complex – therefore to fight this with everything you have. This includes standing together and vote for the new political parties at the next election – never vote conservative or labour again.

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stewart
stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

The logistical issues are enormous. We should really not overestimate the capability of governments around the world to organise something so vast and complex.

This doesn’t mean they won’t try, bit we have time to build up an opposition to it. There is time.

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cubby
cubby
4 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

Unfortunately I fear you are too optimistic. When Governments worldwide enforced smallpox vaccination it took a massive outbreak among the vaccinated in 1871 to reverse public opinion, an entire city (Leicester) to resist it and another 50 years of diminishing public acceptance until punishment for vaccine refusal was removed from the law.
In our time, the compliance of the public and the efficacy of the government’s propaganda wing (mainly the BBC) will allow all future deaths related to the vaccine to be classified as Covid deaths.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  cubby

Interesting on the smallpox vaccinations – is there a concise account of this anywhere?

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

I’m also wondering if there is a suitable link that could be given for us to read about this online. It was news to me to read online (here I think??) re that mandatory smallpox vax thing happening and going on so long – as I’d not known anything about that. So it would be useful to read about it and details of how it was removed eventually.

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The Filthy Engineer
The Filthy Engineer
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

Some info here: https://navigator.health.org.uk/theme/united-kingdom-vaccination-act-1853

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cubby
cubby
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Read “Dissolving Illusions” by Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk. The chapter on smallpox is an eye opener, the one on Polio an absolute shocker.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  cubby

Many thanks – I see it on Amazon, and where a part of the smallpox chapter is available to view.

Is this the ‘Anti-vaxxer Bible’?

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  cubby

I’ve just received a copy of that in the post today – think I must have read about it on here and then decided to order a copy.

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Simon
Simon
4 years ago
Reply to  cubby

News travels faster today, so things will change much more quickly this time as people share information.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

I’m with you on this. I gave up flying personally – for environmental reasons and personal health concerns (ie about the quality of air within cabins of planes for instance) some years back – probably around 2010. I don’t like feeling I literally can’t fly though – by Government diktat – as not flying is MY decision and MY decision only. But I have to admit there doesn’t look to be any chance to fly for literally the rest of my life courtesy of the Government – even if I changed my mind and decided to (NB; my estimated remaining lifespan is 15 years). Just as well I had made my own personal decision before all this that any foreign travel to farflung parts would be done now after I’m dead anyway and I can manage without for a few years and then happily start travelling again as soon as I’m dead (ie relocated to “Heaven”).

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Simon
Simon
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

You needn’t worry about the air quality in the cabin, in the majority of aircraft it’s bled from the compressor stage of the engine and filtered many times before coming into the cabin. Usually above your head and exits beneath your feet. It can be pretty dry in there though.

The air is from a fresh source, unless you have an oil leak in the engine which can cause it to smell quite bad…

Newer aircraft use fresh air from the outside, filtered and distributed around the cabin in much the same way.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago
Reply to  Simon

Good to know. Thanks!

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
4 years ago
Reply to  Simon

You are correct, but only for airlines where smoking is allowed.
One of the reasons smoking was banned is it did not allow the airline to recirculate air. When smoking was allowed, it was continuous fresh air which had to be heated.
This has a fuel cost and the use if recirculated air is the reason behind the rise in respiratory ailments in airline travellers since the smoking ban.
So curiously enough, when smoking was allowed at the back of the plane, the air quality was better for the majority of passenegers.
Dr John Brignell has written extensively on this:
http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/number%20watch.htm

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

Yep – I’d gathered that the airlines used to do the continuous fresh air and then stopped doing so and doing recirculating air instead – for cost-saving reasons. Didn’t know it was connected to smoking – so that’s new info. to me.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

Agree. I have family abroad but given how much they’ve imbibed this Kool Aid hook, line and sinker I don’t care if I see them physically again.

Life is short and if I do get to travel again, I want to go to places because I want to be there not because of any obligation.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Have all Fillipinos drunk the kool aid? I know a nurse here and she is a lockdown fanatic….I had a huge row with her and have not spoken since. She called me a selfish bastard!

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

Certainly among the people in my Arsebook circle they’ve all drunk the kool aid. Not surprising as they’re mostly rich or middle class or are teachers still being paid despite the schools being shut.

The only sceptic I know is a friend of mine – we had a fairly long chat 2 weeks’ ago and she was concerned about how the lockdowns are affecting children (she has one).

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Interesting to hear that Bart. The nurse I know has a house over there but has married an old pensioner here and moved into his nice country house…no doubt it will soon be hers! She rants on about how her job is now impossible with covid and how we all need to stay indoors all day and night for months. I suggested she change job and maybe take up one in an office if doing the job she trained for is so bad.

She is the new breed of health fascist who thinks the NHS is all that matters in the world and that they have the right to dictate how everyone lives so that her job will be easier. It reminds me of a fireman I knew who lectured me about having a log burner!

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

That sort of attitude doesn’t surprise me. Filipinos are resilient yes and are some of the nicest people in the planet but sadly the vast majority aren’t bright and easily take things as gospel truth so long as it’s an “authority figure”who says it.

We actually have a saying for that friend of yours, its translated as “big headed” or “swell headed”. Just because she works for the NHS she thinks she’s special and ergo is “swell headed”

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I don’t think she counts as a friend anymore…as I said she called me a selfish bastard for daring to suggest there are other things in life besides viruses and health. I think you have a good point about the listening to ‘authority figures’.

i am fortunate that I worked out decades ago that such figures are not to be trusted…never more so than now.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

My road-to-Damascus moment was when my primary school headmaster loudly opined to my class teacher that left handed people were in some way, can’t remember his exact words, mentally deficient. My eyes were opened as to the true nature of authority at that moment and have remained open from that day to this. So thanks, Mr. Walker. I owe you a lot.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

As a kid, my school reports constantly described me as a “malcontent” and of course like the Japanese, the Filipinos also have a way to hammer down those who stick out.

So glad that I got out.

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stalfie
stalfie
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Round my way, a village in rural South East, it is the tradespeople who are the most ardent lockdown and mask fanatics- for others! You should read the rants if an old lady should linger for a little chat in the butchers shop, or if a few lanky teenagers gather in a skatepark. These people are out all day, mingling with colleagues, going into customers homes, and – this is the crunch- very very jealous of what they perceive to be people being paid to loll about at home.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  stalfie

It’s “rules for thee but not for me” isn’t it? Mr Bart points out that for many people they’re happy to break the rules when it suits them but if its other people, they clutch their pearls and go “oh no, no, how selfish of them”

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
4 years ago

Nobody can “prove immunity status” by virtue of having taken an experimental gene therapy that was never intended to stop you from getting Covid or spreading Covid. FFS, the manufacturers themselves have said these treatments don’t confer immunity. At this point all I can hope for is that the adverse reactions keep piling up and the countries that have immunized the most keep wracking up more “cases” and deaths. It’ll take some number of years, but I believe we will see ADE/pathogenic priming and a proliferation of autoimmune disease, in addition to the already high rate of more immediate adverse reactions.

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Suzyv
Suzyv
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

Totally agree. Adverse reactions are coming in. I am personally hearing of them through friends and family and literally every other day. If you look on Vernon Coleman’s website he is keeping details and updating regularly.

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kpaulsmith1463
kpaulsmith1463
4 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

Or, as I mentioned above, look up Hugo Talks on YouTube – kid does good work.

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kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

The problem is that adverse reactions to vaccines have been evident for years. This has not led to their safety being reassessed.

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jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
4 years ago

I just received an email from my daughters school.They are planning mass testing of children when they finally return,using the LFT

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Sodastream
Sodastream
4 years ago
Reply to  jonathan Palmer

Hi Jonathan, is your daughter at primary or secondary school?
I had this stress around Xmas as my son who is at secondary year 7, his school were introducing it.
They need parental consent which we obviously did not give and he’s been left alone ( he’s there as key worker child) It stressed me out a lot though as many emails coercing parents to fill out the consent form. After all “it would reduce the spread” and “make school safer”.
Utter bollox. There is a part on the forum “testing in secondary schools” though it ground to a halt as the schools shut.
There are some good template letters on us for them uk and miriaf.webs.com which has excellent letters for all manner of mask/ testing / vacc etc issues.
I haven’t needed the letter for school this for but one is brewing as my son was asked to explain his exemption for non mask at the school gate by a a high vis gestapo.
My son replied “my mum says I’m exempt” bless him. She didn’t like that!

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Sodastream

Well, it’s all your fucking fault, you parents, isn’t it. You gave up your rights over your children to the state.

It was always going to end like this.

The future of freedom is ironically in the land of Gates and FAuci, the United States, where homeschooling and farmer’s markets and evangelical communities still exist.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

where homeschooling and farmer’s markets and evangelical communities still exist.

We’ve got all these things in Sussex, FuoL.

Now if you’re talking about the 2nd Amendment, I’m completely with you.

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Sodastream

explain his exemption for non mask at the school gate by a a high vis gestapo.

My son replied “my mum says I’m exempt” bless him. She didn’t like that!

Fantastic!!

Great information thanks! Al parents should use these resources and challenge testing – it leads to anxiety in children = child abuse

Last edited 4 years ago by Victoria
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nickbowes
nickbowes
4 years ago

Another day, i wonder which gates paid non-entity “expert” (on a gold plated guaranteed by the tax payer, secure pension) will be on the news, suggesting years long “lockdown” is worth it, if it only saves just one 83 year old.. Come on people, as the prophet Icke says “time to get off our knees” !

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SallyM
SallyM
4 years ago

The suggestion to deflect attention to the overweight is abhorrent. Why would anyone who cares about liberty and autonomy and decency want to replace Covid tyranny with another? I’m sick to death of people trying to escape their predicament by turning the spotlight onto smokers or the overweight or some other scapegoat category.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

Satire, m’dear.

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SallyM
SallyM
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Oh yes, the height of wit.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

I wonder how you would have responded to Jonathan Swift’s A Modest Proposal?

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Get the cookery book out! Enfants à la sauce Robert.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

A poisonous little piece, and a wonderful send-up of the type of spreadsheet management that has got us into this current mess, three centuries ahead of its time.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

Don’t feel bad, Sally. We’re that used to seeing bad news above the line, it’s easy to be fooled. 🙂

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The Filthy Engineer
The Filthy Engineer
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

It might be satire but we don’t need to go around giving them ideas. 🙂

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sophie123
sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

I quite like the idea, given that Johnson, Gove and Patel are chubbers.
Hancock, Witty and Vallance could stand up on TV and harangue them. See how they like it.

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Ovis
Ovis
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Look into their eyes

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  SallyM

As a smoker, I can only say that I look good under a spotlight.

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kpaulsmith1463
kpaulsmith1463
4 years ago

Andrew Cuomo, mass-murderer.
I truly, truly HATE this guy.
https://nypost.com/2021/02/11/cuomo-aide-admits-they-hid-nursing-home-data-from-feds/

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  kpaulsmith1463

Anybody believe that they didn’t do the same over here?

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The only country in the west that didn’t attempt to cull their elderly, was Belarus. Instead, during the initial 3wk house arrest, infection control teams were sent to all the nursing homes, alongside supplies of PPE. And then life resumed as normal. Poor Belarus, with their awful dictator. Sigh

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago
Reply to  Jinks

Perhaps we’ll get a huge golden statue of Dilyn soon like the chap in Turkmenistan put up. Would be very suitable for the continuing worship of Baal Hammon/Moloch/NHS.

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Jinks
Jinks
4 years ago
Reply to  Nigel Sherratt

satanic occult ritial sacrifice, in broad daylight, and most people haven’t a clue how demonic this all is.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago

Bring it all down

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

Don’t give me Peter Hitchens. At the beginning he was a hero, but now he doesn’t even touch the issues of the coup d’état by Big Pharma and the coming Reset.

He could have used his position to lead protests. Instead he just sat on his ass complaining about David Icke.

FUCK YOU HITCHENS!

All that stuff about ‘courage’ and the previous generations bla bla bla and he does nothing himself.

He could have been a real leader, THE leader.

Instead he sat it out.

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

How bout you do it rather than criticising others?

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

He has made it pretty clear that he fears mass civil disobedience more than he fears lockdown. He has stated in a spiked interview that he thinks Ferguson is a man of integrity and that he thinks that govt ministers are driven by the best of intentions.

I used to like him but he is becoming increasingly annoying. I find it hard to think of someone who thinks those things as being on the same side of the barricades as me.

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Bill
Bill
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

If he wasn’t ‘moderate’ he wouldn’t be allowed on the MSM. As it is it’s difficult enough for him. Pity, but there we are.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago

I am 59 years old. I have had 3 heart attacks (told no. 4 will probably be it), I’m asthmatic, I have no spleen, and have COPD. I had a double heart bypass 5 years ago; since then, I’ve never felt better.

I’m a person who, were the vaccine real, would have been jabbed by now. I declined the offer when it was made this week by my GP.

No, Mister Hancock, I will NOT take your poison!

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Brave words. May you live long and prosper.
And you don’t swallow his verbal poison either. That’s resistance.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Bless you, Annie. 💖
I’ll do everything in my power to live long enough to hopefully see the bastard pay for his crimes.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

I’m confident we all will.
It will be the biggest celebration in British history. VH Day.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

And what about the overwhelming majority who supported him?

People will NEVER admit their complicity.

As Musk said “people wanted this”.

A CHOICE was given: the public accepted.

This is the beginning of 1984. Winston Smith is in the future. Brave New World, too!

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Pebbles
Pebbles
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Keep going! Well done mate.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Not necessarily so- re the 4th one. My erstwhile brother has gone through 14 heart attacks last I knew and he’s just erstwhile status because he’s turned out to be the right little selfish sh*t I’ve long thought he was, but he is still alive as far as I know – so I don’t want to know someone like that any longer. NB; I’m sure you’re a much nicer person than he is I hasten to add…

I admit to astonishment that anyone could have survived so many heart attacks…

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

14! OMG!

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Well done. KBO!!!

More power to your elbow sir!

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Hoppy Uniatz
Hoppy Uniatz
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

You are undoubtedly the only person on this thread with no spleen!

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AshesThanDust
AshesThanDust
4 years ago
Reply to  Hoppy Uniatz

Hahaha!

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  Hoppy Uniatz

Literally, yes; figuratively, no. 😉

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Mutineer
Mutineer
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

It’s a medical trial!!! Nobody will underlying health issues should even be offered the death elixir (vaccine it ain’t) They are not even checking medical histories! I have been offered it and I had a severe life changing reaction to a BCG jab I was forced to have working in the NHS and never worked again. It hasn’t been tested on people with health issues or people on medication. It’s slaughter.

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kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  Mutineer

You are quite correct. This experimental treatment will be riskier for those with underlying problems.

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Old Trout
Old Trout
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Brilliant! I wish my dad had some of your spirit. He has what he calls a ‘dicky ticker’ which has turned him into the world’s biggest hypochondriac and, despite all the information I showed him about its lack of effectiveness and possible side effects, he couldn’t wait to be jabbed. I wish you all the best for the future.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  Old Trout

Thanks, Old Trout.

I, too, have met a few people who have had heart attack/s and have used it to almost give up on living, or wanting to do anything, but really are, just as you say, hypochondriacs. That said, I’ve met plenty like me who used it as an excuse to live life better.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago

How the sheeples are going to enjoy their double knickers. A wire digging into the bridge of your nose. Knots digging into the sides of your face. A tight string yanking at each ear. Itchy material clamped tight against your nose and mouth and facial skin. Then another wire and more knots and more itch on top, grinding the first lot further into your face. And if you work in a shop or other public place, this is for eight hours a day with no remission. And if the Fascists have their way, it goes on for ever.
Enjoy, sheeples, enjoy.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

We’ll probably be seeing more skin problems. Not just your usual acne but severe dermatitis and impetigo for a start.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The mask tan should be interesting this summer. I imagine them all looking like reverse Barney Rubbles.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago

Fauci claimed that face masks were of no use for the general population and recommended that people did not wear them. He later claimed that face masks prevented transmission of the virus and recommended that people wear them. Asked about this change, he claimed he had been lying when he had said that face masks were of no use. Later Fauci claimed that wearing two face masks was better than wearing one, as two were obviously more effective than one. Within days of this new position he admitted that there is no evidence that double masking is effective in preventing transmission of the virus.

The World Health Organisation has also struggled with this issue. It changed its long standing position on face mask wearing by the general population in June 2020, not on the basis of evidence, but, as even the BBC reported, as a result of political lobbying. (Unfortunately the BBC did not identify the lobbyists.)

Here at home we saw the same pattern with experts pointing out that face mask did not prevent transmission of virus and they were not recommended for the general population. Then the government changed its position (something neatly led up to in the media) and made face mask wearing mandatory first on public transport and later in other indoor public spaces. Chris Whitty, the Chief Medical Officer, was asked by the House of Commons Science and Technology Committee about the evidence for this change. “The data had not changed. What changed was our interpretation,” was Whitty’s reply.

Of course this change of position had the serious problem (for people whose incessant mantra was “the science”) that there not only was no evidential support for it, but there was decades of research against it. So studies were quickly generated, showing masks reduced water droplet transmission, which we were all supposed to believe proved that face masks prevent transmission of the virus.

The change of position on face masks was political, and it was global, and it happened in a very short period of time.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Maybe gay saunas impact the mind

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cubby
cubby
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

The change in position may reflect a change in personal or family investment in companies producing the lockdown paraphernalia.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  cubby

good point

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  cubby

It would simply reflect what Bill Gates wanted.

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Mr Taxpayer
Mr Taxpayer
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I’ve been free-faced throughout. I was walking out of ASDA Hereford 30 minutes ago and was stopped by 2 of West Mercia’s finest. Apparently they had been called by the security guard that I reminded of the extent of his powers a few days earlier. I told them I was exempt. they explained it easier if you carry a card or something, so I flashed my “I am exempt” free card downloaded from .gov.uk and I was let on my way. The best bit was them walking across to the security guard and telling him I was exempt. I could have pointed out a few other points of law but my daughter was with me and the bacon was getting warm.

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr Taxpayer

I am surprised they respond to these calls.
They could as well explain to the security person on the phone what the law is and ask him to review how he handled it, and not waste their time.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

I suspect the filth might have been hoping to make an example- possibly accompanied by a scare-piece pour encourager les autres in the local rag- of Mr. Taxpayer.

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Scotty87
Scotty87
4 years ago

So most Brits back immunity passports, eh? Well let’s see how that stacks up next summer. It’s easy to virtue-signal and give the “right” answer in a poll, it’s very different to roll up your sleeve and be jabbed with an unlicensed, experimental form of gene therapy.

I’m predicting wails of desperation from the heads of the Spanish and Greek tourist boards before long.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

Immunity passports? Not even the developers of the so called vaccines claim their products confer immunity; they merely claim their products reduce the severity of the symptoms. This is an admission that the “vaccinated” may well be walking around carrying the virus and thus be able to pass it on to others.

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PeeDubbya
PeeDubbya
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Steve, The paper work that comes with the Pfizer jab clearly states in the ‘what is it used for’ section:

COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 is a vaccine used for active immunisation to prevent COVID-19 disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 virus

The vaccine triggers the body’s natural production of antibodies and stimulates immune cells to protect against COVID-19 disease.

To me, that sounds like they are claiming immunity, not a reduction in the severity of symptoms. More truth massaging going on here probably

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cubby
cubby
4 years ago
Reply to  PeeDubbya

A job for Trading Standards? Does this department still exist and if so maybe a UK resident could report this?

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Sceptical Steve
Sceptical Steve
4 years ago
Reply to  PeeDubbya

My assumption would be that they’ll claim that “Covid-19 Disease” is an acceptable description of the more serious consequences (hospitalisation, death) of the Viral Infection, which is what the vaccines claim to suppress.

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I think the distinction between immunity status and vaccination status is being deliberately fudged. They are different things.

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MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
4 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

Several people including me pointed out yesterday that YouGov was founded by Vaccines Minister Zahawi. MW

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  Scotty87

The Greeks somewhat opened up last summer – they had to, as they depend on tourism and the reported death toll from Covid was tiny last year until November, when it rose for obviously seasonal reasons.
This year they will certainly be wanting people to hit the beach.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Waldorf

Won’t be me if they want a CovviPass.

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Suzyv
Suzyv
4 years ago

I will be sitting back and watching and waiting regarding the vaccines and travel. And yes looks like it may mean not travelling overseas for a while which may not be practicable for some I know due to family and work etc. There are already a great many adverse reactions published and this will only get worse with time. No matter how hard they try to cover it up some of it at least will come out. And it isn’t just a headache or sore arm, heart attacks, strokes, bells palsy, loss of sight etc and even some deaths admitted and we haven’t started on the possible autoimmune illnesses and ADE for some further down the line although they will definitely try and say no link to these. It’s a personal choice but is a risk of a very serious life changing reaction worth it? And if with time there seems to be no risks then you can think again- although the reactions have already started so I am not hopeful on that.

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kpaulsmith1463
kpaulsmith1463
4 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

I would refer you to the YT Channel & website, ‘Hugo Talks’, where he DOES talk about it.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

Indeed – the info. is starting to come out re effects of the Vax – and this is before many have had the 2nd one and goodness only knows what will happen then. In fact I think one of my main concerns is re the effect on the person themselves – not their body. I do wonder and there’s some comments already that the Vax will affect about one-third of people mentally. Already there are reports coming out of the person themselves changing – eg an instance I read of a couple of close relatives and close friend commenting that the person themselves has changed (ie their personality has gone from outgoing etc to depressed and introvert and they just aren’t themselves any more). There have been several tales of that sort of thing I’ve read recently. Added that, I know it’s only anecdotal, but apparently some very well-known (spiritual) healers have reported that they were simply unable to “reach” three people they tried to send distance healing to any longer – and it felt like there was a blockage in the way that they had never experienced with people they had tried absent healing on prior to The Vax. Very early days yet – but I am concerned about the effect of The Vax on the person themselves (and not just their body).

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

It reminds me of Pullman’s intercision!

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Spearthrower Owl
Spearthrower Owl
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

I have also read that – quite some time ago – and it makes me think that there will be a category of people “vaxed” behaving very differently from the “uvaxed”

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

I agree with everything you said Suzy

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Pebbles
Pebbles
4 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

Please can everyone send the latest UK Medical Freedom Alliance Brief about vaccines to their MPs, and also to medical correspondents in the media… you can find it on their website in pdf form. It is pushing for an enquiry regarding the side effects. Also distribute to others who are thinking of getting vaccinated. Thank you.

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kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  Pebbles

I have done this and am very glad I did. I also sent it to my local councillor who said he has forwarded it to the local Director of Public Health

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/directors-of-public-health-in-england–2

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mps/

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rose
rose
4 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

We have n’t had the second round yet. Adverse reactions will be much worse and then when ‘vaccinated’ come into contact with the live virus …who knows

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primesinister
primesinister
4 years ago
Reply to  rose

TThe data from the vaccine adverse event reporting website ive only seen for usa, is pretty grim reading plenty dead after mrna jab.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Suzyv

Knowing what I have learnt since last April about this being a political agenda and not concern for our wellbeing, we will not comply.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

They will have to tie me down first. It is all a scam and their end game is massive depopulation.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
4 years ago

My local authority of Torridge has a case rate of 19/100000, the neighbouring area of North Devon has a case rate of 25.7/10000. The hospital for these areas, Barnstaple, serves a population of 164,253 people. The NHS data board reports that there are currently 2 Covid patients in Barnstaple Hospital and as far as I am aware the hospital is running relatively normally.

The actual local area where I live and am ‘locked-down’ has a case rate of zero because try hard as they like they cannot find any virus. People locally look hale and hearty, stop and chat in the street, walk through the local woods all looking very fit and healthy. Yet the schools are half shut, the pub is shut, the village hall is closed and we are not supposed to travel very much.
How long can they impose all these restrictions when there is virtually nothing happening and it is proving so hard to find any signs of virus?

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

For as long as the zombies bleat for it.

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Harrydean
Harrydean
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

That’s the sad truth Annie. We can blame the government but they do seem to have the support of the majority. The vaccination potential time-bomb may become difficult to hide though.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

I know that’s why they are going door to door testing people. They are so desparate to find cases so they can keep us locked up.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

How long? As Sunetra Gupta warned, until some nasty virus is on the rise because of the lack of social mixing.

These people know what they are doing: they are genocidal SCUM!

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Sceptical Steve
Sceptical Steve
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

I would expect that your suggestion that Barstaple Hospital is running “relatively normally” is far from the truth. My wife works as a secretary within the clinical psychology department of our local NHS hospital and is expected to wear mask and goggles throughout her time on the premises. Hancock and Johnson need to address how they expect the hospitals to reduce their massive waiting lists when all the staff, clinical and administrative, are forced to continue working under such restrictive and unnatural conditions.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago

Good to see Will ATL again today.
Maybe Toby will do the weekend shift and he can remind us all again that this is just incompetence and Boris being terrified of the death numbers.
I’ve read many people on this forum BTL say, “this is not/was never about a virus”.
They’re right, it’s not, it never was, and it’s not about a vaccine either!

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Yes such nice people these govt ministers and they have our best interests at heart. Sadly even Peter Hitchens thinks that!

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TheClone
TheClone
4 years ago

Only the government minds and souls are empty!

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

Laphroaigh regularly heavily discounted at local Sainsbury’s and the reassuring smell of brewing drifts over from Britain’s oldest brewer so no, it’s balls of course.

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JanMasarykMunich
JanMasarykMunich
4 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

The ‘leaked Canadian report’ mentions:

Projected supply chain break downs, inventory shortages, large economic instability. Expected late Q2 2021.

I really do not know what to think about this document…

https://thecanadianreport.ca/is-this-leaked-memo-really-trudeaus-covid-plan-for-2021-you-decide/

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kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  JanMasarykMunich

It seems remarkably prescient for something I first read last October. Since then, second wave, stronger lockdowns first local, then progressing to nationwide, mutations, travel restrictions, both internal and external, increased pressure and propaganda directed against the minority that will not accept vaccines……

None of this had occurred last October, in fact I remember reading this and thinking it unbelievable.

Just waiting now for the supply chain breakdown, financial collapse and being carted off to the isolation facility under the Coronavirus act as a danger to society. Oh, and having all my assets confiscated, of course.

On a more optimistic note I am hoping that the attack on private property will prove to be a step too far. The right to own private property has been a cornerstone of British law.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
4 years ago

From observations locally in North Devon, no and no, our village shop and the greengrocers in Torrington have stacks of fresh produce, the bakers have plenty of bread, the wine shelves are full and the farms are producing plenty of eggs milk and cream.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Oh don’t – do tell us more…

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

I read the German press.

I have noticed too.

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago

no. the supermarkets are as normal

traffic on the roads seems normal – I don’t know where everyone is going as not much open

london is almost deserted

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
4 years ago

Henceforth, I no longer wish to be referred to as anti-vaxx. That implies that I have not given any consideration to other options.

Indeed, I decline in spite of my mother now being scared of seeing me, such is the level of fear that has been instilled in her by this evil regime and a complicit media.

I now wish to be considered a conscientious objector.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

It would be useful for us all to have a (suitable of course) name that could be used by us to describe our refusal to have The Vax status. I am personally totally anti all vaccinations and also anti The Vax. But I would think it likely most on here would have vaccinations – but not have The Vax. So I can/do call myself an anti-vaxxer (and that means I’m anti the lot of them and also anti The Vax) – but I appreciate others would like to differentiate to make it plain they are in favour of vaccinations but not The Vax.

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Barbara Baker
Barbara Baker
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

I have mentioned before that I say I am in the Control Group – vital for any medical experiment . It also sounds like a positive choice which is correct and important.
Most don’t seem to understand the concept but if they ask for an explanation they mostly say “Reeelly? How interesting”

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Barbara Baker

A vital role indeed – as today’s UK Column News included the thought that those who were the control group in the tiny short-lived amount of trialling there was will also shortly have The Vax in all likelihood and so there’ll no longer be any sort of control group at all!!!

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

Informed decision

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

you are just somebody who has resisted the brainwashing, the mind control. you are still free. let them put what stupid labels they like on you, who cares, they’re all stark raving mad, in any case. ‘anti-vaxxer’ can be translated as ‘heretic/apostate; blasphemer’ – I’m proud to number myself as one of those, I reject this entire cult, which I consider satanic at bottom

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago

I cannot see what the problem is with ‘vaccination passports’. When I first started travelling abroad in the 1970s, to Africa and Asia, you had to have with you vaccination certificates for such conditions as typhoid and yellow fever. These were inspected by the health authorities just before you went through immigration at your destination. If you don’t want to travel the you won’t need a certificate. We can’t influence the numpties in our Government so there will be no chance of doing so in foreign lands!

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

Do you really think this will stop with just ‘permission to travel’?

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Stephanos
Stephanos
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Definitely not. Its use will be extended to gradually and not so gradually to EVERYTHING. Restaurants, pubs, museums, libraries, corner shops, sports centres, driving, you name it. It is a not very thin end of an extremely thick wedge. Our freedoms have gone completely.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

I’m more than happy to let the markets do the talking on this one.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

How about the fact that the so called vaccines are not vaccines; do not confer immunity; but merely (according to the developers of these products) reduce the severity of the symptoms (making it more likely that individuals who are ill will continue with everyday activities rather than take to their beds until they are well)?

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
4 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

The difference was that vaccinations were limited to exotic destinations with deadly viruses not found on our shores for which we have no immunity. Not for what amounts to s common cold for the majority.

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this is my username
this is my username
4 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

This illness is not serious for most – indeed as we are aware most cases are in fact false positives caused by high PCR test cycle thresholds. They are not even asymptomatic. So once we take those out of the equation, we are left with a few who will be badly affected, just like with the flu every year.

We have never treated flu like this – I don’t know about you, but I’ve never take precautions against catching flu, let alone a vaccine (nor would I take a vaccine, they are filth – monkey viruses which have been genetically altered are not something I want anywhere near me, let alone the mRNA gene therapies).

The virus is the ploy for more control. The vaccine passports are a coercove measure to get more people to take the vaccine now. They know what they are doing – the Behavioural Insights Team knows that by creating such a feeling of hopelessness in the population they can get people to aquiesce to their plans more easily, and that once you’ve had one of these vaccines, you’ll be more likely to accept another.

The Overton window is being shifted by these measures. It’s not a public health measure, it’s a control measure.

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cubby
cubby
4 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

A couple of reasons for not accepting the vaccine; the deaths from vaccination are likely to be similar in number and frequency to deaths from the disease itself (see ‘flu) and the people who are mandating this are probably profiting from it (see Handcock and Vallance). Would these not be reason enough to object to vaccine passports? And we’re not talking about Africa, we’re talking about people wishing to see family members working in the community without borders to which we once belonged.

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
4 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

As far as I am aware, for Yellow Fever there is one vaccination and this is internationally agreed as being needed for travel to certain countries and also it seems to be accepted that it lasts for a lifetime.
There are now a large range of SARS-Cov2 vaccines, all experimental and all dubious and there is no International agreement as to how long they last? nor which ones are acceptable. Indeed whilst yellow fever seems a fairly stable disease, SARS-Cov 2 is unstable and mutates and so international agreement on a vaccine protocol will be tricky to achieve.
These proposed vaccine passports are more likely to be required by travel companies, in which case it will depend on how keen they are for your business?

Another thing; I note that my Yellow Card has an exemptions sheet, all existing Yellow Card treatments have an agreed exemptions protocol. Before SARS-Cov2 can be officially added to the Yellow Card system there will need to be an agreed exemptions protocol.

My optimistic hope is that before all this official international agreement can be reached SARS-Cov2 will have duly disappeared.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Actually SARS-COV-2 is not very mutable – especially compared to something like flu. I don’t think we have seen anything that can be classed as mutations, only small changes in RNA from replication errors. The word “mutate” is deliberately overused as part of the propaganda.

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Marcus Junius Brutus
Marcus Junius Brutus
4 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

Fuck off.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Junius Brutus

Et tu, Brute?

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Quousque tandem abutere patientia nostra, DBB?

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Apache
Apache
4 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

The typhoid and yellow fever vaccines were proven to be beneficial and safe. The covid vaccines haven’t finished safety testing. The disease is survivable for most healthy people so the unknown risks of vaccine outweigh the upside. If the vaccine passports were purely for travel your stance might be justified but just watch the mission creep and they being required to enter other areas.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

the difference is that typhoid and yellow fever are real diseases, and the vaccines are real vaccines, which went through normal development and safety protocols. I too have a yellow fever vaccination certificate [somewhere]

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

I had my polio vaccinations in 1958 at Medical Centre, Rifle Range Road, Kuala Lumpur. I’ve still got the chit and all the subsequent ones for other serious diseases. There is no comparison with the current Great Insanity.

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Mutineer
Mutineer
4 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

You can’t even compare typhoid and yellow fever! This is seasonal flu ffs!

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Old Trout
Old Trout
4 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

How about the fact a person is risking serious injury or even death by taking an experimental treatment in order to travel abroad?

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Ewan Duffy
Ewan Duffy
4 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

A “vaccine” for an illness that 99.7% of the population survive and where the greater risk individuals are easily identified (the elderly,the obese and those with other illnesses). In addition, there has never been a vaccine for a coronavirus yet suddenly there is!

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
4 years ago
Reply to  Ewan Duffy

Its not even the obese, otherwise Japan, Taiwan, Belarus etc would be reporting far more deaths.
Its only the obese with other issues AND low Vit D

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The Filthy Engineer
The Filthy Engineer
4 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

On one level I don’t necessarily have a problem with vaccination certificates and I’ve said as much a few months back on this forum. What I have a problem with is the almost guaranteed mission creep that these digital “passports” will have.

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Bungle
Bungle
4 years ago
Reply to  The Filthy Engineer

You’ve said this before? Wonder why nobody was listening?

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Bungle
Bungle
4 years ago
Reply to  DevonBlueBoy

I used to say “oh, sorry,must be in my suitcase” and they let me through.

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Basics
Basics
4 years ago

The NHS has 1.2 million employees. Roughly a third of them are overweight or obese. How seriously do the employees want to save the nhs and help the nation?

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PeeDubbya
PeeDubbya
4 years ago
Reply to  Basics

It would appear there’s a few of them on sick leave at the moment:

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago
Reply to  PeeDubbya

I asked Whately months ago what proportion of the self isolators were obese. No response of course.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Basics

I’d say rather more than a third of them are overweight – judging by those gruesome little TikTok videos of them dancing. The vast majority of them are overweight – going by those. What a load of little porkies in the main…

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fiery
fiery
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

Absolutely – when I worked for the NHS there’s was certainly more than a third who were morbidly obese.

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muzzle
muzzle
4 years ago
Reply to  Basics

I’ve been to the hospital and all the nurses are fat. Surely that would be like going to a tailors for a nice suit but all the staff are in scruffy jeans.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago
Reply to  Basics

You can draw your own conclusions from Sir Tom’s fund being spent on biscuits and chill-axing spaces.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Not helped by the free food they’ve been getting from the likes of Domino’s Pizzas.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

haha yes ‘protect the NHS’…eat at Dominos every day!

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DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago

No and very much no!!

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago

latest PHE all cause mortality

1st peak = NHS launching biowarfare against care homes + lockdown

2nd peak = NHS biowarfare + lockdown + vaccine on hyper-frail (banned in some countries)

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Bungle
Bungle
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

Which countries have banned it?

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

banned for the over 65s

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9214625/AstraZeneca-Covid-19-vaccine-not-recommended-65s-Sweden.html

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HelzBelz
HelzBelz
4 years ago

The only hope now for those of us that don’t want to take the experimental ‘vaccine’ is for the vaccinated to start dying in large numbers.

Whether the deaths were attributed to COVID or the jab, it wouldn’t look good for the vaccine.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

“variants”

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

Yes I agree

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

I tend to agree. I think we probably are waiting for Critical Mass to be reached – ie for so many of the vaxxed to have been killed/injured/personality altered by the Vax that TPTB can’t hide the fact any longer and everyone has to admit it. At that point I feel the tide will turn and we will start getting our freedom/normal Lives back. The only ones I will feel sorry for out of them are those that got blackmailed into The Vax (eg by an employer threatening to unfairly dismiss them if they didn’t have it). I won’t even feel sorry for those that gave way to family pressure from the more selfish/stupid of their family members – as they could have “been Strong” and held out against them and so even they are complicit with the way the rest of us are being made to suffer.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

but if I’m right, (and my only hope is that I’m completely batshit crazy) the ‘vaccinated’ (ie, lethally injected) will die is such huge numbers that those of us diehards who are left will be in an extremely vulnerable position – there will be nothing stopping them then from just hunting us down and shooting us.
I do hope I’m wrong, but I’m afraid I really think this is the level of evil we are up against.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

My mind runs more along the lines of “If a lot of the vaxxed are dead or ill – then Society will still need a noticeable number of people to run it/keep the pumps manned so to say and maybe they’ll be trying to tempt us back into work with bribes (would have to be a VERY big one in my case – as I’m retired).

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TheBigman
TheBigman
4 years ago

GOOD MORNING SLAVES!

I have come to the opinion that anyone who gets one of the DNA altering vaccines willingly is a proponent of the lockdowns and a sheep to what has been done to them in the form of lockdowns and devastation.
Even more disgusting are the supine that will take the experimental concoction just to get a gold star passport so they can go to Spain for a week to then spend 10 days in a concentration camp at their own expense.

Are we really a nation so badly in need of excitement that we have become uncritical idiotic dunces in the face of a virtue signalling psychological operation (see SAGE’s ’emotional messaging’) aimed at stripping us of the liberties that were fought for over centuries. Are we that generation that are so willing to accept Blairite globalism that’s purpose is to lead to the One World Government (see Brown’s many calls for it).

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TheBigman
TheBigman
4 years ago

Make no mistake we live in a lefty world.

They aren’t called the loony left for no reason.

Where is the ‘Right’ lockdown sceptics site???

I hope everyone enjoys the trip to the gulag.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago

This knobhead is changing her tune…..

The Scotsman: Coronavirus in the UK: Prof Devi Sridhar says ‘very open debate’ is needed over easing of lockdown restrictions.
https://www.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-uk-prof-devi-sridhar-says-very-open-debate-needed-over-easing-lockdown-restrictions-3131257

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Nobody2021
Nobody2021
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

My instinct tells me that this is to allow the pushing of the zero covid agenda because it is currently not considered a realistic option within government.

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

she wants hard borders between countries and then borders within countries – between zones of different levels of infection – it is zero covid stuff

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

Its ironic that often those who favoured no borders now want hard borders!

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

its natural for extremists to shift from one extreme position to another – the only thing that stays constant is that they are extremists

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

good point!

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

It is… especially the ones whose rightful place is the other side of that border.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

Open debate.
I say something paralysingly stupid.
You beg to differ.
I suppress you.
Zombies shriek aproval of me.
End of debate.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

who the fuck is Devi Sridhar and why should anyone take a blind bit of notice of anything she says?

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Ewan Duffy
Ewan Duffy
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

Being a pal of Chelsea Clinton means you are somebody /sarc

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

She’s shouty and on message. That’s why I am ignoring her anyway.

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Lowe
Lowe
4 years ago

See the illustration used in a Guardian article yesterday: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/11/matt-hancock-lays-out-his-plan-for-wholesale-reorganisation-of-nhs
Is that a scene from a film version of 1984?

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The Filthy Engineer
The Filthy Engineer
4 years ago
Reply to  Lowe

I was thinking of the omnipresent screens of Dr Breen from the game “Halflife 2”

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AN other lockdown sceptic
AN other lockdown sceptic
4 years ago

Morning fellow amazing Lockdown Sceptics.

Well doesn’t this shitshow keep on giving eh!?

We must not let the buggers grind us down. The world has gone collectively insane in the past but has always come to its senses at some point.

Keep fighting the good fight in whatever way you can. We are the resistance.

Onward and upwards.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  AN other lockdown sceptic

Yesyesyes. We are adamant. We can’t be ground down..

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  AN other lockdown sceptic

Summer 2020 is starting to look like a golden idyll compared to Summer 2021. But yes that only hardens my resolve.

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Margaret
Margaret
4 years ago

I listened to most of the Hitchens-Hodges debate yesterday.

Hitchens kept on pushing the point-yes this has been a nasty virus, but we need to keep our response to it in proportion to the dangers involved.

It has not been the killer which it was predicted to be, nor has it affected 99.5% of
us, apart from destroying livelihoods, our children’s education and our mental health, that is.

In proportion is the key phrase and has been my viewpoint from the very beginning.

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

It’s not the virus that has destroyed livelihoods, our children’s education and our mental health, it’s the government!

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Margaret
Margaret
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

You are absolutely correct Smithy. I should have made my point, about the percentage of us affected, a little clearer. We have not been affected by the virus but the out-of-all-proportion response to it.

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John David
John David
4 years ago

Why is it that SAGE (which role is to only advised the government) allows it members to appear on the main stream media to announce their latest speculation and general scaremongering day in and day out. Surely all this should have to be vetted by No 10 to ensure some form of coherent strategy. When is our spineless prime minister going to take some form of control of this mess. I am actually surprised that the narcissistic control freak Matt (I am the Minister of Health) Hancock has not had words. But then chaos and disordered aids this government’s continued usurping of our now non-existent parliamentary democracy. To all intents and purposes we’ve now had a bloodless coup in this country and not many people seem to have noticed.

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Nobody2021
Nobody2021
4 years ago
Reply to  John David

Any and all information that is made public we can probably assume to be sanctioned. Even so called leaks are now so common it’s clear that somebody left the tap running.

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Sceptical Steve
Sceptical Steve
4 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

I’m increasingly of the opinion that the German reports of collusion between the German Interior Ministry and their scientific community, specifically to encourage the scientists to provide evidence to justify further restrictive measures mirror the relationship between the UK government and SAGE.(https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article225864597/Interner-E-Mail-Verkehr-Innenministerium-spannte-Wissenschaftler-ein.html) It seems to only credible explanation for the way that the UKG tolerates the apparently spontaneous interventions from SAGE members, always warning of new dangers and recommending more restrictions on our freedoms.

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Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
4 years ago
Reply to  Sceptical Steve

About time some of these cunts were offed

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago
Reply to  John David

Certain SAGE members are long overdue the nudge. I assume it has natural wastage, ins/outs. When will it get a shake-up?

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Charlie Blue
Charlie Blue
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

It needs to be stood down. It exists to advise in times of emergency.
An endemic virus is not an emergency.

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Blue

it should have been stood down when it declared the effects of lockdown were not part of its remit

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Charlie Blue
Charlie Blue
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

Spot on, steve.

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Barbara Baker
Barbara Baker
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

Hear, hear !

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Blue

Yep.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

I rather they got a hang-up.

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DeepBlueYonder
DeepBlueYonder
4 years ago
Reply to  John David

I often wonder about this. They always carefully precede their appearances with words “speaking in a personal capacity” (even when they are introduced as being a member of SAGE, or whatever).

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  John David

Because they do what they are told by the government. If they were to do the opposite, they would be removed.

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mikewaite
mikewaite
4 years ago
Reply to  John David

It is interesting that Whitty addressed the problem of how science based data should interact with Govt policy on medical issues in a paper published 5 years ago:
https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-015-0544-8?utm_campaign=BMCF_TrendMD_2019_BMCMedicine&utm_source=TrendMD&utm_medium=cpc

What makes an academic paper useful for health policy?AbstractEvidence-based policy ensures that the best interventions are effectively implemented. Integrating rigorous, relevant science into policy is therefore essential. Barriers include the evidence not being there; lack of demand by policymakers; academics not producing rigorous, relevant papers within the timeframe of the policy cycle.
This piece addresses the last problem. Academics underestimate the speed of the policy process, and publish excellent papers after a policy decision rather than good ones before it. To be useful in policy, papers must be at least as rigorous about reporting their methods as for other academic uses. Papers which are as simple as possible (but no simpler) are most likely to be taken up in policy.
Most policy questions have many scientific questions, from different disciplines, within them. The accurate synthesis of existing information is the most important single offering by academics to the policy process. Since policymakers are making economic decisions, economic analysis is central, as are the qualitative social sciences. Models should, wherever possible, allow policymakers to vary assumptions. Objective, rigorous, original studies from multiple disciplines relevant to a policy question need to be synthesized before being incorporated into policy.

I have highlighted what I thought were important points in this message , and points which he seems now to have forgotten that he once made
The article btw is open access.

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Sceptic in SA
Sceptic in SA
4 years ago

Morning all from Cape Town.

I am on this Arsebook page with about 10 other people, which is mainly about golf. I posted a month or so back about an argument I had with JC who is about 35 (20 years younger than me) and a know-it-all keyboard warrior. Most if not all of them are what I would call typical – not exactly zealots but they pretty much believe everything they read.

I will share some posts from yesterday which make me wonder what goes on in their heads. The characters in this short story are below. Without wanting to sound rude, none of them are that bright. :

KS – about 65-70 yrs old, ex copper. A bit of a bigot, for instance believes that women shouldn’t be members of his golf course
TA – N Irish, about 60, works in health service
DF – about 50. Usually quite objective although not exactly a deep thinker
MP – about 45, scouser, the most sceptical but again not exactly a genius.

KS joined in with JC last time with “nutter” jibs at me when I raised the point that this is a scam-demic.

Here is the conversation, which as I said is quite depressing. They seem to be celebrating the fact that they are having the jab, and that immunity passports are on the way. Crazy.

KS
Yes.! Getting my first jab on Saturday.
 · Reply · 13h
TA
KS I’m booked for the second one on 13th March.
 · Reply · 11h
KS
TA that’s great mate. Hopefully get my second in May.
 · Reply · 11h
Write a reply…
MP
TA and KS: The government have this target of getting everyone – the vulnerable/underlying – done by April/early May.
Is it wrong that we should target that date, or do we just carry on with lockdown after lockdown?
This isn’t going away because I’ve said before it’ll be like the flu jab.
However, we all need something to look forward to.
 · Reply · 9h
KS
Viruses mutate, it’s what they do. I think we will have to have a yearly jab, possibly one day it will be combined with the flu jab. I also think that you will need to prove you are vaccinated and up to date before being allowed into a lot of countries.
 · Reply · 9h
DF
KS I bet bill gates can’t wait to tune into your daily activities https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.0.1/svg/1f609.svg
 · Reply · 8h
TA
KS I know of a guy who travelled to Dublin last week for a flight home to India. Got to the check in desk and was refused travel as he didn’t have a current PCR test certificate. In reality he was being asked for a travel passport so only a matter of time before that becomes a vaccine certificate.
 · Reply · 8h

Although this sounds cruel, part of me hopes that he has his jab and then develops an instant and fairly serious adverse reaction. Only because it will demonstrate to him and the rest of them what I have been trying to tell them

In other news, my sister (55, diabetic, overweight) told me that her and her hubby (65, asthmatic) are having the jab. I sent her various articles and videos to try and dissuade her, but she won’t change her mind. I’m genuinely worried that she will get some sort of bad reaction and told her as much

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Two-Six
Two-Six
4 years ago
Reply to  Sceptic in SA

Sorry 😉 I hope you find this funny, the views expressed are not that of the author…much

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Monro
Monro
4 years ago

This is the scandal; the indictment of NHS England and this government:

Only England, out of all of the 27 European countries listed (including Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland) has overall all cause deaths, amongst age group 15-44 years, above the ‘substantial increase’ dotted redline.

And England is the only country of the 27 where that above ‘substantial increase’ mortality for 15-44 years age group occurs both in April/May 2020 and Dec/Jan 2021.

https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps#z-scores-by-country

This tells us that government interventions specific to England are directly responsible for at least a major part of the increases in all cause mortality for those periods; nothing to do with SARS CoV 2 (because atypical whereas SARS CoV 2 common to all).

Of course, if those specific government interventions caused a substantial increase in deaths within the 15-44 years age group, it takes little imagination to work out what effect those interventions would have had on the older age groups.

Nowhere to hide………

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Monro

This. 100%.

And if you listen to Hodges on Talk Radio, he sees the English numbers as ras evidence that sceptics were wrong. Talk about cherry picki

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Basics
Basics
4 years ago

Cold, frosty morning? Bring cheer and warmth to your heart with this thread of comments after China boot BBC comment!

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsPR/status/1359929545281970181?s=20

Yes twitter bad as facebook as instagram as…etc, but go on see the public stick it to the man.

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this is my username
this is my username
4 years ago
Reply to  Basics

I needed a laugh

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

Their “from our correspondents” on R4 yesterday was one of the worst programs I ever heard.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

Defund the BBC

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

ROFLPMWL

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago

Can’t be bothered with all this. If this means doing a George V and simply staying in this Sceptered Isle for life (he loathed the idea of travelling abroad anyway) then so be it.

My family live in the Philippines and have long drunk the lockdown Kool Aid and if their insane government wishes to plunge more Filipinos into the extreme poverty bracket then the lockdownistas there will deserve everything they get.

This is what the Greens have long wanted – a new Medieval Age where foreign travel is only the preserve of the mega rich, celebs, politicians and royals. While the rest of us have to make do with Scarborough.

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mikewaite
mikewaite
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

GeorgeV: seems to have loathed travelling anywhere outside Sandringham estate to judge from his last words: “Bugger Bognor”

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  mikewaite

That too. He was forced to go to Italy for his health during the late 1920s which Queen Mary was excited about because it meant her visiting the museums there but as she later wrote George’s philistinism partly ruined the holiday.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Scarborough is very nice.

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago

“UK economy suffered record annual slump in 2020”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56037123

How to destroy a country because you don’t understand data

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Monro
Monro
4 years ago

This whole global hypochondriacal silliness is so over:

Corticosteroid Budesonide via an inhaler:

‘They hypothesised that the use of steroid inhalers, which suppress immune response in the lungs, could have a beneficial effect on COVID-19 patients who often suffered lung damage due to overactive immune response to the disease.’

‘Professor Nicolau said they realised in the early stages of the pandemic that people with asthma were under-represented in severe and fatal cases of COVID-19.’

‘A preprint version of the trial’s findings is being considered by medical journal The Lancet, which published the team’s hypothesis before the start of the trial last year.’

‘“When we first began the trial back in March [2020], we were hoping for 50 per cent reduction [in risk of developing serious symptoms], which itself would have been very high,” he said.

“We got 90 per cent, which even with only a few hundred people is off the charts.
“And it’s not just the overall result – their temperatures are less, they get less fever, and they recover faster.”

The trial wrapped up recently, with the strong early results independently assessed to be sufficient with no need to continue.

Professor Nicolau said there were also ethical considerations to continuing the trial while getting such positive results.

“There were 10 times as many people going into the normal arm of the hospital rather than our treatment arm,” he said.

“It reaches a point where it’s no longer ethical, so we stopped [the trial] about two-thirds of the way through.”

The randomised trial ended up looking at 146 patients, who were given regular doses of either corticosteroid budesonide via an inhaler, or a placebo.

Professor Nicolau said the implications for the treatment were enormous, especially for parts of the world which would not have access to any vaccine for some time.

‘“We’ve never had a good treatment for the common cold, it does make people sick, especially older people, and perhaps this could be it,” Professor Nicolau said.

“These pandemics are now coming every five years or so, and this treatment should work for the next one, because hyper-inflammation is not particular to COVID, it happens with all respiratory infections.”

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/over-the-counter-inhalers-suppress-severe-covid-symptoms-trial-finds-20210210-p5716m.html

Remind me: how much money did we spend on vaccines?

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Monro

Yep. Hence the massive propaganda mission now in motion to push the vaccines.

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kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  Monro

I’m an asthma sufferer and as such have a ventolin and budesonide inhaler. I have always used my budesonide inhaler whenever I have had a bad respiratory infection to cut down on the inflammation in my lungs. I am surprised this is a “discovery”.

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Monro
Monro
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

‘I am surprised this is a “discovery”

The leitmotif of this shambles.

Who knew, for example, that Britain’s healthcare system was so much worse in terms of health outcomes than those of most of its neighbours?

Errrr……everyone. What has been done……..nothing

Same with your asthma treatment………

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Will
Will
4 years ago

Many might think me heartless but I can’t help a bit of of a “Go on the Kent strain” in relation to Australia. If the virus gets in and does it’s thing in Australia it might make people see the utter futility of trying to “stop” a virus.

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Ovis
Ovis
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

When you realise Covid is not the real enemy, and that the enemy claims to be opposed to Covid, it does become tempting to cheer on the Covid. Poor Rona, she’s not even relevant, you know.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

I think we can be pretty confident they will have their hands full come their winter.

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Professor
Professor
4 years ago

The article posted today on “Imperial College Modelling Falsely Assumes No Seasonality to COVID-19” is perfectly correct and the same logic can also be applied to all the other modelling studies (such as those from Warwick) that similarly predict huge numbers of cases in the height of Summer. The models also seem to ignore, or grossly underestimate, pre-existing immunity. Unfortunately, none of these concerns are new and yet the predictions produced continue to scare the politicians. “Computer says no” is apparently argument enough for them.

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Will
Will
4 years ago

Can someone help, please. I am trying to find the number of under50s in the UK who have been registered as having died with covid. All I can find is graphs and I could really do with the actual number preferably with and without comorbidities.

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DomW
DomW
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

The only figures I have to hand are the ONS total “deaths with covid on the death certificate” numbers for England and Wales, You can add on around 10% for Scotland and Wales to get approximate UK total.

For ages 0-49 up until 29/1/21 the total (England = Wales) was 2,253

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Liberty
Liberty
4 years ago

In response to the excellent but anguished poem today in the Poetry Corner. This is my unashamedly Christian response. In the face of such a lack of hope, I wanted to share my hope.

My Hope

I mirror your thoughts,
I know what you mean,
Life in this nightmare,
Is not just a bad dream.

I too often wish,
I could bury my head,
But I have to face up,
To the whole truth instead.

I hear what you say,
It’s hard to have hope
But I do have an answer,
Which helps me to cope.

All we see’s been accounted,
In the Bible I read,
God knew this was coming,
His warning I heed.

If you reach out to Jesus,
Then new hope will arise,
His Word has the answers,
This was all prophesied.

There’s not an event we see today that doesn’t make sense if you line it up with The Bible. The stage is being set for a one world government and a mark on the hand or forehead allowing people to buy and sell. If we trust in Christ though we have the promise that he will keep us from this coming time of trial which will come upon this world. This is a good time to ask the big questions in life. I pray each of you considers whether Jesus was who he said he was. As CS Lewis said about Jesus Christ,

“A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic—on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg—or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.”
C S Lewis, Mere Christianity, 1960.

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Basileus
Basileus
4 years ago
Reply to  Liberty

Amen.

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Marcus Junius Brutus
Marcus Junius Brutus
4 years ago

I will commit suicide before I have a vaccine passport. Fuck off. Just fuck off.

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this is my username
this is my username
4 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Junius Brutus

The pressure they are putting on people is appalling – this is such a coercive move. Please don’t think about doing anything drastic as a response. Hold on!

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

they’ve never made a coronavirus vaccine before and now they have a handful in 8 months – partially tested

mRNA vaccines have been tried for years but have never really been licensed due to side-effects and efficacy

I predicted ages ago hat they would start being abandoned by about March. Let’s see – we already have countries not doing over 65s (the only people at risk of covid). We have side effects in younger people that are horrific – what’s that going to do to a frail 90 year old?

What will happen will happen but they can’t hide it. No way the laggard countries are going to go ahead if it looks bad – they have no interest in saving face for someone else and spending money doing it.

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this is my username
this is my username
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

This is worth looking at https://web.archive.org/web/20210207100203/https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1358290308757409794

Israel has seen a surge in deaths, just like the UK, since the vaccine was brought in. I hope you’re right that they will be abandoned, what governments are doing is immoral.

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Norman
Norman
4 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

From Worldometer:
February 12 (GMT)Updates

  • 1,831 new cases and 3 new deaths in Israel [source]

February 11 
Updates

  • 5,083 new cases and 26 new deaths in Israel [source]

February 10 
Updates

  • 6,010 new cases and 41 new deaths in Israel [source]

February 9   
Updates

  • 7,191 new cases and 45 new deaths in Israel [source]

February 8   

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

Israel is perhaps the most vaccinated country of them all.

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Basics
Basics
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

I wrote last night about Elwoods statement he now fully supports vaccine passports. You may remember a few mobths ago he made an implying statement in favour of Vpasses then put out a following statement to say pretty much her was a weasel and did not say no such thing.

I pointed out the times those sceptics like myself who have, from the very beginning, being raising the alarm about the pattern of developments and where they lead. It is tiresome to have incompetence theorists pooh-pooh any notion of planned global control when the evidence is all around us. I am patient with those who are seeing only UK Government involvement and a political haplessness which just so happens to be causing death and misery unchecked.

This crime is so big, so broad that I can understand why people are not prepared to see the trajectory we have been set on. But my god is this tedious to watch.

Evil exists, it lives in the minds of the fuckers who come onto screens and preach fear at you. It lives in the minds of those unseen making calculatiins to cause anxiety and fear. The purpose they have in mind is evil.

Just the most simple of facts – masks – is enough to tell you this is seriiusly sinister. Put yourself in the eyes of a child then the mind of the people who dreamed up and imposed the mask on all of humanity. Is that not evil incarnate?

I respect other views entirely- exception being the trolls. So please respect my opinion and contemplate once again looking beyond Westminster for the source.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

I will holiday in any country that does not insist on a CovviPass. £££ waiting.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

I’m afraid this was completely predictable – by those of us who were paying attention: first: the ‘soft’ coercion: you will not be able to participate meaningfully in society without a vaccination: this will be enough to capture a large proportion of the ”vaccine hesitant’ and when only the real diehards are left, comes the ‘hard’ coercion – the gulag? the bullet to the head? forced vaccination under anaesthesia? – I don’t really see any ‘way out’ to this: it’s die standing, or die on your knees, that is the choice

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

‘Real diehards’ have families, friends, neighbours, work colleagues. It won’t be at all easy for the bad guys.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Junius Brutus

At least take one or two of them with you !

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Henry2
Henry2
4 years ago

Who is this prat Hodges? We had a bad winter, somewhere between a bad flu season and an unvaccinated flu season. This was predicted as an unsavoury outcome by Witty and Vallance back in March 2020 if we suppressed the virus with perpetual lockdown and failed to build immunity. Lockdown scepticism was bang on the money illustrating this from April, that the virus was seasonal and no matter how many banal, overweight nurses said ‘just wait two weeks for the 2nd wave’ after every human indulgence – from BLM marches.to sitting at the beach. IT WAS FORECAST to happen during every peak respiratory disease season or more specifically winter. You can’t call a FORECASTED (by your science committee) bad winter a 2nd wave. We can all predict when the next peak in covid cases will be.

Lockdown scepticism, with numerous.examples has clearly shown that the only thing that works is immunity. You can be optimistic about a vaccine if you want, but there was no way it would have an effect being deployed when it did, and may even have worsened the problem (another debate). But if you have a run in to winter with literally no other levers to pull because regions and the country is already in lockdown, failed to be build any immunity barrier, it’s on the onus of the lockdown zealots to be ACCOUNTABLE for elevated covid mortality by denigrating basic epidemiological science chasing the unicorn of the silver bullet vaccine. I despair at this tired argument. And that’s before you take ACCOUNTABILITY of the cluster fuck of collateral damage now and forever going forward. Dan Hodges et al. should be reminded, that lockdown sceptics aren’t pulling the levers or have had influence since the BEGINNING.

LOCKDOWN is the biggest public health disaster ever, and the vaccine could be a close 2nd.

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Will
Will
4 years ago
Reply to  Henry2

My thoughts exactly Henry2.

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Monro
Monro
4 years ago
Reply to  Henry2

Hodges is the Chief Air Raid (ARP) Warden and greengrocer.

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TheOriginalBlackPudding
TheOriginalBlackPudding
4 years ago
Reply to  Henry2

Who is he? Son of Glenda Jackson. Yesterday’s man. Former Blair-arse-licker; soft-lefty opponent of Livingstone, K and Millipede,E (so not entirely bad) and a mate of the vaccines minister.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  TheOriginalBlackPudding

What a great guy!

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RichardJames
RichardJames
4 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

You forgot the /sarc at the end!

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Another government u-turn.

No its just another government lie exposed.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago

Let’s start flushing some of these vaccine passport/compulsion MPs out. Last summer I wrote to my own MP, Geoffrey Cox, asking if he was in favour of compulsory vaccination, and he replied that he was not. 

Why can’t all Sceptics do this with their own MPs? Then get a database together so we know where we are with these bastards. 

A question for Will and Toby especially: will this site organise and host such a database?

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Charlie Blue
Charlie Blue
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

I respectfully suggest that we would be none the wiser. Most of them are untruthful and even those that are will still vote with the Govt when it came to the crunch.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Blue

I think it’s worth doing – would help hold some of them to account and give a bullet to fire at any who turned out to have lied subsequently.

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Still Got It
Still Got It
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Blue

I’m afraid I agree. My MP categorically said would not support another lockdown (after number one). She did, of course. When I wrote back, copying her own response back to her I got the usual tripe about situation changing, deadly virus, blah fucking blah.

My experience of all of this is that writing to MP’s is a absolute waste of time and is there purely to give us something to do.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Why can’t all Sceptics do this with their own MPs?

What’s the point in wasting time, when your MP is called Ian Blackford?

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

God help you. My old Great-Grandma used to say “There’s always somebody worse off than you.” Well…….although I think Andrea’s MP is RLB, so possibly a dead heat at the bottom of the pile there.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Save the stamp for his head.

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

At the next election people will need to stand together and vote for the new parties. Never vote conservative or labour (failed to oppose anything and therefore collaborated) again.

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primesinister
primesinister
4 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

The current sysem /politics/parties = corruption,.
Politics and parties is their invention their game, we need our own game.

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primesinister
primesinister
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Fuck all the lying bastard mps Irefuse to engage with them anymore.

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
4 years ago

Morning folks , Well there you have it , the Vaccine passport ( micro chip is on its way ) that’s what all this is about ! You can see from all the cover up info of real science , logic, common sense , Hope etc that the powers that be are absolutely determined to see this thing through to the bitter end , no matter what the human / economic cost is , I’ve said it before “ This is a War “ Period !!..

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Basileus
Basileus
4 years ago

This was recently shared on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/goodfoodgal/status/1359619207374073856/photo/1

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

Indeed this has been planned for decades by big money man Gates and his associates. Now gates is the biggest owner of farmland in the US that will focus on GM foods and developing more highly processed and unnatural products like the impossible burger

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago

In Cretinigulag Wales, Wales, I can buy as much wine as I like from the supermarket so long as I buy it before 10 p.m.

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Bungle
Bungle
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Dylan Thomas would call it ‘Dnaltnuc’

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Bill Hickling
Bill Hickling
4 years ago

Well what a surprise that Imperial College has other bogus assumptions in their modelling and that they would be politically-motivated!

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Lose Weight, Stay Healthy, Protect the NHS

Haven’t we got this ass about face, when is the NHS going to meet its obligation of protecting us so we can live our lives?

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

The government/nhs have failed us for decades with their incorrect advice on how to eat – sponsored by big food and confectionary companies. The eatwell guide/plate that is heavy carbohydrate makes people fat. It is not healthy and leads to lots of other diseases such as diabetes, heart disease, cancers etc

I cannot see that they will provide a proper nutritious approach to food

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

We have biologically evolved, to eat meat, scavenge predator kills, suck out bone marrow, forage for seasonal berries, the occasional flower, some succulent spring greens (leaves) collect eggs, browse for insects, catch the odd rodent or fish & slowly progressed to hunt larger prey, the richest source of many essential vitamins is animal organs.

Grass seed is a relatively new addition to our diet, its not a biologically appropriate diet. There’s barely any nutritional benefit in the likes of wheat & rice. Note cereals often labelled fortified (artificial) vitamins.

Our teeth & jaw muscles became smaller, i’d speculate because we invented tools & fire. Not entirely sure when humans started cooking meat but it obviously aids consumption of tough foods & release nutrients from some sources. Like everything neo-liberal corporate globalism goes against nature. The best way to promote good health is a good biologically appropriate diet, that’s not exotic grains, fruits & vegetables from the other side of the planet.

We are paying the price of our dismissal of natural process, ecological capacity.

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

How many times are we going to have to shoot the overweight zombie.
NHS stats show:
1) People classed as Overweight have a greater life expectancy.
2) People classed as overweight have more chance of surviving surgery or an encounter with OURNHS.

Being overweight i s healthier than being of ” normal” weight.
(Normal being a noodle armed NHS desk jockey)

It’s almost as if humans like many other animals lay down fat reserves to carry them trough the lean times of no food or illness,but nah – that can’t be true.

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
4 years ago

Every day they are cranking up reasons to keep this Shit show on the road !! .. Dropping little Shitty Hints about can’t let our guard down etc , the latest one making out that virus’s are not seasonal so they can Fuck summer off , what is there left to do !! Are we going to sit here while they destroy us , if an army was coming we would know what the threat was but this is worse just as real and it’s happening under our stupid dumb noses !!

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

“We know that fit is important for masks to be effective”

Stopped reading right there, everyday this site capitulates more & more to appease covidian mob.

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Indeed.

Can’t wait for the massive increase in dementia, cancer and other illnesses that thrive in low oxygen environments. In addition young people that will never realise their potential as low oxygen affects brain development.

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Unbelievable.

!5 sets of randomized, controlled trials show muzzles provide no detectable benefit,

It’s pure superstition.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago

The headline above does not surprise me. The government has consistently lied to us since March 2020 so this is another one of their long string of lies.

Anyone who still believes this is about a virus and that the government is their best friend and has their best interests at heart needs to have a long honest conversation with themselves.

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ElizaP
ElizaP
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Bart telling it like it is again – keep at it…

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  ElizaP

Thanks!!!

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

“Anyone who still believes this is about a virus and that the government is their best friend and has their best interests at heart needs to have a long honest conversation with themselves.” Well there are some, like me, who simultaneously believe that it is at least in part “about a virus” but think the government is dishonest and evil.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Agree. But I know a lot of people who are both and they don’t care about the collateral damage – the job losses, the bankruptcies, suicides, untreated illnesses, mental health, etc

And they have the nerve to call us “selfish”

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Yes they have no right to the moral high ground. We are not “all in this together”

The ones that make me maddest are people who think it’s bollocks but defend the PM and say he had no choice and blame Labour and the media

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Exactly. That’s another reason why I’ve pulled back out of Arsebook as I’m fed up with seeing all the virtue signalling and endless posts about how “we’re all in this together.”

The odd thing is many of the lockdownistas I know have a pathological hatred of Johnson and the Tories and yet now are the biggest cheerleaders of this shit show.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I know such people myself…its laughable.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago

The Australian Open tennis was up to now allowing 30,000 fans per day to enter across all the courts. I don’t know what the daily capacity is but I think 30,000 is half or less of the normal total

Surprisingly they didn’t sell all of the tickets (I think they sold about half of that number) – presumably because people are still worried about being in crowds.

Would you go to a crowded sports event at full capacity tomorrow if you could?

Do you think sports events here would sell out?

(From what I could see, the crowds in Aus were nappy-free and I doubt they had to have a vaccine as lots of them looked young, though a negative test MAY have been required, not sure)

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Scouse Sceptic
Scouse Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I’d go to ANY event at full capacity right now!

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Scouse Sceptic

Even to watch the Toffees … ?

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

Steady now

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nottingham69
nottingham69
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

They allowed 30000 at the Cricket in a 90k capacity stadium. I expect it is all the extra spurious safety crap around attending that puts people off, rather than the virus. Australia was bad before this on zealous safety measures.

I would go back to Forest without hesitation but if I was harassed by jobsworths, or stupid rules like muzzles imposed, I wouldn’t bother with it until sanity returns.

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago

Nope. Well stocked and loads of food and wine for Valentine’s Day weekend.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago

If anyone chirps at you about zero covid and Australia, point them to this news:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-56035668

“Victoria to enter lockdown with fans barred from Australian Open (tennis)The Australian state of Victoria will enter lockdown for a third time in a bid to suppress an outbreak of the UK strain of coronavirus.
Officials this week found 13 cases stemming from a quarantine worker who became infected at a Melbourne hotel.
The lockdown will begin on Friday midnight and end on Wednesday.
However, the government has said the Australian Open tennis tournament would continue in the state’s capital, Melbourne.
Spectators will be banned from attending the event from Saturday, which had previously allowed up to 30,000 visitors a day. Tickets will be refunded, tournament director Craig Tiley said.”

The tournament has only just started. Note that the “cases” came from a “quarantine worker” from a hotel and note the low number of “cases” that triggered this. It shows very clearly that zero covid cannot possibly work even on an isolated island where the virus isn’t circulating much, and that “quarantine hotels” won’t work. Zero covid just means lockdowns forever, at short notice.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Historically, public respect for and trust in doctors has exceeded that awarded to politicians. The unquestioning capitulation of medicine to an authoritarian executive and predatory corporate power may have undermined the doctor-patient relationship for a generation.

At least someone gets it! Not sure doctors ever deserved the trust & respect they once had. Statistically medication is the worlds third biggest killer. And frankly the way they’ve abandoned any principle or integrity ‘DO NO HARM’ during covid earns them a seat in the dock of Nuremberg 2022.

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this is my username
this is my username
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I highly recommend this video to everyone here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gDnDE_WpU8

It’s called Pharmakeia The Sorcerer’s Wand – it exposes the medical and pharmaceutical industries. It’s also heartbreaking, but so worth watching.

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WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I know someone who refused to say their Hippocratic oath because they felt it was an impossible commitment.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

Doctors in affect have just become sales assistants handing out drugs. Just medication technicians.

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stevie119
stevie119
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Or licensed drug dealers.

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Basileus
Basileus
4 years ago

The doctor’s letter to the BMJ quoted AtL was a response to this article also in the BMJ:

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n314

Covid-19: Social murder, they wrote—elected, unaccountable, and unrepentant
‘After two million deaths, we must have redress for mishandling the pandemic.’

‘The “social murder” of populations is more than a relic of a bygone age. It is very real today, exposed and magnified by covid-19. It cannot be ignored or spun away. Politicians must be held to account by legal and electoral means, indeed by any national and international constitutional means necessary. State failures that led us to two million deaths are “actions” and “inactions” that should shame us all.’

Last edited 4 years ago by Basileus
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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

That social murder article is Keir Starmers argument. Zero Covid, we should have locked down harder blah. Avoid.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago

Another job gone – tennis line judges replaced by technology at the Australian Open Tennis, to make it more “bio-secure”. Being a line judge doesn’t pay much but it’s a way for tennis lovers to be involved in major tennis events. They will replace the ballkids next. Why not just replace it all with CGI?

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

It will soon be robots playing the tennis….even more bio secure!

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nottingham69
nottingham69
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Why did they not move that event from Melbourne this year. With the fruitcakes they have there running the show, what has transpired was totally predictable.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes, and the huge enormous prizes can be allocated by Guinevere.

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primesinister
primesinister
4 years ago

And the people who do not wish to be par of this experiment.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

“I’m living in a country that won’t let me out” – Lionel Shriver in the Spectator

She deserves it, despite everything she says, she still supports the democrats Clinton mafia!

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Yes this woman is a bit peculiar.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

… a bit peculiar.

She’s called Lionel …

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

The Rapists Dad announces that he is ahead in the ‘vaccinations ‘ game

He says they will soon have vaccinated the over 70’s

What’s not mentioned is that they are ‘vaccinating’ 60 year olds in the constituencies of the Rapists Dad and the Health Minister

In the ‘wrong’ constituencies the over 70’s are ‘missing out’

We have had four offers in the past 48hrs

Don’t they know there is an election on

I love Marxism

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Nobody2021
Nobody2021
4 years ago

This is quite an observation below. The Government is propping up the economy with T&T and also making some people very rich all with taxpayer funds.

Jonathan Portes
@jdportes

Interesting note in the GDP release – well over half of the 1% growth in Q4 came from the test and trace scheme…

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Margaret
Margaret
4 years ago

https://science.news/2021-01-15-long-term-mask-use-breeds-microbes-lung-cancer.html

This was posted in Stop Press ATL but in case people miss it, it is worth a read.

No wonder there are no health and safety studies available re. wearing masks for long periods of time!

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

“Supporting the vulnerable during lockdown” – The Government is currently inviting evidence for an inquiry into support for the vulnerable during lockdown

That’s not what we need, we just need to stop “lockdowns”, by definition lockdown is compulsory enforced by draconian police powers.

If you must support those vulnerable categories who wish to cower isolate themselves (just do it with your money).

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WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

God I hope no one replies. Because it’s actually a road map for silently neglecting the weak abs allowing them to die off. Ask anyone involved in the various DWP enquiries. It’s all a crock of shit.

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Ross Hendry
Ross Hendry
4 years ago

Clearly vaccine uptake isn’t going too well so they let it be known that vaccine passports are under consideration.

These scumbags are totally predictable.

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Nobody2021
Nobody2021
4 years ago

“Bring out the Gimp”

Once again Imperial College and presumably Ferguson are brought out to provide modelling on demand to paint whatever picture is required to justify additional measures.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

Yes, and I’m now of the opinion that it’s that way around – they are producing the results they are told to.

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Bruce Reynolds
Bruce Reynolds
4 years ago

Skeptics I just want to say this,I have not obeyed one single government diktat since this shit show got off the ground.. No mask (other than WW2) mixed and hugged family and friends, had house party’s, drank in a pub, traveled where I want within the UK, told covid Marshalls to fuck of and go die, and I will continue to do all the above in other words, live a normal life..

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Bruce Reynolds

My heeero!

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Bruce Reynolds
Bruce Reynolds
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

And your my favorite comment lady..

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Bruce Reynolds

And mine, seeing as we’re peddling gratuitous compliments this morning. Well, dead heat photo btwn. you and Andrea followed by a stewards’ enquiry if I must be pedantic.

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Bungle
Bungle
4 years ago
Reply to  Bruce Reynolds

Totally with you M8. We are having regular parties here. Someone asked me “aren’t you worried about being grabbed by the fuzz?” I said “no,just worried about being swung round by the tits!”

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Bruce Reynolds
Bruce Reynolds
4 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

Respect to you Bungle.

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Harry Chara
Harry Chara
4 years ago
Reply to  Bruce Reynolds

Good on you that’s exactly how I have lived my life since last April

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Bruce Reynolds
Bruce Reynolds
4 years ago
Reply to  Harry Chara

Respect to you Harry.

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chaos
chaos
4 years ago

Interesting facts #478474948

Bill Gates doesn’t even have a degree He dropped out.

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Marcus Junius Brutus
Marcus Junius Brutus
4 years ago
Reply to  chaos

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Junius Brutus

That photo looks like the flames of hell busting out behind him.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  chaos

bill gates doesn’t even have a soul.

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tarfu
tarfu
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Ah!… soul.
Arsehole

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doug
doug
4 years ago

Toby Young stating incorrect data on the LC Podcast which totally blows his increasingly MSM repeat signal on this site.

I have been listening to London Calling Podcast since March 2020 and have enjoyed the banter between James Delingpole and Toby Young.
I even gave £ to Toby site last spring.

During this time, I have been party to the pairs transformation over time. They both went through the “ …we are all going to die ” phase before both realising this was a total data fiasco and nothing like the media driven “pandemic” portrayed by the Government. Late summer 2020, they philosophically parted ways and Dellingpole has become a rare lonely voice, however he has all the data on his side.

Having just listened to the latest sparring contest on the London Calling Podcast (8th Feb 2021), James Delingpole said that this entire “pandemic” is nothing more than an enormous over reaction to something no worse than a bad winter flu.

Toby Young disagreed and said this was only true for under 65 yr olds and that older people were at significantly more risk and hence he is justified in his stance.

I decided to review again the latest data from the ONS to see who is correct.

The attached charts are taken from the ONS, and like all the data this year, the conspiracy is hidden in plain sight.

The first chart here is showing the past 20 years data for various age groups “at most risk”. This deserves to be in quotations because even a cursory glance at the data shows two main points.

1) Firstly, the excess deaths all occurred during April and early May 2020. Before and after this date there is nothing that can justify the ongoing Government and media fed propaganda.

Even if you believe all the April / May 2020 deaths were ALL Covid related, then the “Pandemic” was over by the end of May 2020. However the ONS data shows that most of those deaths had no mention of Covid on the death certificates. This Conservative Woman web site has written before about the DNAR ( Do Not Attempt Resuscitation) notices that were forced on the elderly in April which were responsible for most the deaths.

Toby Young also reported that

“Care homes were asked by NHS managers and GPs to place blanket ‘Do not resuscitate’ (DNR) orders on all their residents at the height of the coronavirus pandemic to keep hospital beds free, a new report has found.”

He referenced the Telegraph story here.

2) Secondly, July 2020 had the lowest death rate for ANY AGE Group going back to 2001. Despite the endless media noise of “increasing cases”……“ beaches packed ”….. ” hospitals overrun ”, this has never translated into excess deaths.

The narrative used by all the lockdown zealots is that the deaths last year were above the 5 year average and hence the virus is going to kill us all.

However the 2020 overall mortality (14% above the 5 year average) is only true because of a single spike in April/May 2020 which coincided with closing the hospitals and the DNAR notices placed on care home residents. Remove this April / May excess deaths and 2020 no one would have noticed anything remarkable about the year.

This whole “pandemic” is nothing more than a total failure of MPs and the media who failed in their duty to look at basic data. Instead this has morphed into a political disaster, fed by people with vested interests in keeping the crisis going.

Dr. John Ioannidis, the C.F. Rehnborg Chair in Disease Prevention at Stanford University wrote in March 2020 that what we were looking at was “once-in-a-century evidence fiasco.” He was correct, and nothing has changed since.

The definition of the word “Parliament” means “a formal conference for the discussion of public affairs”, yet there is no discussion anymore. Simply a one way announcement of new diktats made up by the Government and forced on a populations with almost zero questioning by the MPs.

Shame on the MPs and shame on the media.

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ChrisW
ChrisW
4 years ago
Reply to  doug

Good analysis.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  doug

Dr. John Ioannidis, the C.F. Rehnborg Chair in Disease Prevention at Stanford University wrote in March 2020 that what we were looking at was “once-in-a-century evidence fiasco.” He was correct, and nothing has changed since.

So good it should be repeated many many times.

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago

So since the start of the lockdowns anyone mentioning that the end game is health passports were labeled as conspiracy nutters but hey ho here we are….

But will the wishes of others be taken into consideration, their rights protected, their religious views respected, if vaccine documentation is brought in? 

If you just look at how disabled rights are trampled on with masks, it is clear that rights won’t be protected.

So they want to build the health passport on ‘vaccines’ that are not properly tested, the positive research findings based on a very unreliable PCR test, new vaccine technology that could eventually wipe out most people or make them very sick or even affect fertility, etc

Be afraid, be very afraid

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

Don’t worry. We are. Time to find out who are friends are.

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Dodderydude
Dodderydude
4 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

I attended an anti-lockdown protest in Liverpool in early August. This was the report of the event in the Liverpool Echo. Note the scoffing assurances given by NHS staff that we were protesting about nothing as our freedoms were not under threat. I would love to catch up with said NHS staff to remind them of what they said. “They won’t be held down and vaccinated against their will!”

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/nhs-workers-slam-scaremongering-pandemic-18739103

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Dodderydude

Another said: “It’s important to mention any vaccine is not forced. They are talking about freedom, well they have the freedom to do what they like.

Yeah except travel anywhere, get treatment, go see a film, go to a concert, buy groceries. You can still leave the house can’t you? This week.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

Arse. Fear is failure.

Staying properly alert as to likely developments is one thing; wetting ourselves in advance is both smelly and inconvenient. And people will laugh at us …

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

“Critics of the 10-year Covid jail sentence are right, but out of touch” – Ross Clark in the Spectator on the disturbing YouGov poll

The medieval prison system is an obsolete cruel & entirely worthless instituion that only serves one purpose revenge (oh & profit)! 90% of all incarcerated slaves do not belong in a cage. Especially with modern technology, other sanctions would be far less costly & harmful to society & therefore more effective. Only persons considered dangerous to others should be segregated from open society.

Entirely academic of course because we are all prisoners now.

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Next they will demand people sentenced to 10 years have to pay for their own meals, like in mediaeval times. Oh no, they already have to.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago

LOL No!

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chaos
chaos
4 years ago

Interesting Facts #73933838

Why woiuld MP’s put in letters to 1922? It’s great working from home on full pay.

Why do some working people willingly go for a flawed PCR test? Because a positive means you get to stay home for almost two weeks.

Why mask us? Because it increases fear factor (makes it seem more real) and dissuades us from talking to each other. Same reasons pubs and gatherings are closed. To stop us talking. Stop us askingquestions.

Every month or day now is the same. TalkRadio toiday was TalkRadio in September. Same old. And the ordinary kids have now missed out on almost one year of education.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago
Reply to  chaos

The first point makes no sense. MPs are not employees. They are paid regardless of how many or few hours they attend the House of Commons or anything else.

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chaos
chaos
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

They get to stay home dullard.

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chaos
chaos
4 years ago

Valentine’s day this year will be somewhat illegal for many if not most..

In Bojo Kemal’s and Nut Nut and Wancksock’s new Taliban China UK..

We’re all muslim now. Masked. No sex before marriage.

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Basics
Basics
4 years ago
Reply to  chaos

Sugar rationed.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Laura Dodsworth speaks to sociologist and SAGE member Robert Dingwall

There should be no place in government for “sociologists” in a democratic society.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Prof. Dingwall has been bob on throughout this nonsense.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

That is beside the point, a democracy should be the opposite of government manipulating the masses to advance governments agenda.

In any case if it weren’t for sociologists & psychologists we wouldn’t be in lockdown or wearing masks etc.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I totally agree. If Dingwall has helped our cause then good luck to him, and glad he is there, but that doesn’t take away from the point that the govt has no business employing social scientists to “nudge” us. They serve us, not the other way round.

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Charlie Blue
Charlie Blue
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

He could be an entomologist for all I care. He has spoken eloquently and convincingly about the need for people to live their lives and for the fear narrative to be dropped throughout.

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Nobody2021
Nobody2021
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

He’s probably one of a handful within SAGE stopping us from going full China lockdown.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

Best of two evils?

Alternatively just eradicate evil.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

He’s one of the few I would spare.

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Basics
Basics
4 years ago

Twitter

Bill Gates @BillGates
· 8 Feb
I’m teaming up with Anderson Cooper for a virtual chat on my new book “How to Avoid a Climate Disaster”.

_
No comment needed.

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nottingham69
nottingham69
4 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Pooper yuk.

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Bugle
Bugle
4 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Nerdboy meets Vanderbilt – what could go wrong?

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Hawkins_94
Hawkins_94
4 years ago

While LS was busy parroting the government’s “vaccine miracle” it was clear to its readership this had to, simply had to, be part of the big picture.

My wife will surely have her medical consent removed and force vaccinated to remain working with the NHS. (Yes, vaccinated and NOT “immunised”) Having just married all of this will likely happen before we ever wanted to begin family planning.

It’s beyond frightening that something could become mandatory before anyone has even completed the programme by having their second dose. Surely the millions of voluntary guinea pigs make for an excellent case study? And to think they’re already saying some of said mandatory vaccines don’t even work!!

I’m deeply distressed about all this and feel utterly helpless… I’d consider leaving UK but where to. I’ll forego foreign holidays, but then what about everything else.

Others on here will refuse it at all costs and good for you, but for me I have my whole life ahead of me and the extreme pressures to conform will ultimately make me take a knee. Who knows what comes next

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nottingham69
nottingham69
4 years ago
Reply to  Hawkins_94

No case study involving current authority could be excellent because honesty just isn’t going to happen.

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  Hawkins_94

I have a young child. If, as I have known all along, they will make them mandatory for employment, I think the best option is to find one that is as close to a traditional vaccine as possible and do whatever it takes to get that. I don’t feel I have anywhere else to go and have felt this way for months now. This charade will not end, no matter how much we recite figures and stats and the harms of lockdown because it has nothing to do with any virus. Anyone who believes it so, even to think this all began as a response to some virus, is my enemy. It is that simple.

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Victorious Sponge
Victorious Sponge
4 years ago
Reply to  jb12

I believe the Novavax is a traditional attenuated virus vaccine, rather than an mRNA Frankenvaccine, and the adverse event patterns on its Phase III clinical trial so far show no signs of the horrifying autoimmune damages associated with the experimental technology injectibles. It’s been touted as “less effective” against the super-mutant ninja covids, but still effective. And much safer.

It’s expected to be approved in the UK by end of summer, so could be one worth going for if needed – I imagine you’ll be able to buy it at private clinics even if the “good old” NHS doesn’t stock it.

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  Victorious Sponge

Yes, I noticed that one, but I wasn’t sure with all of the talk of nanotech. But hey, this is where we are: discussing which of these abominations are the lesser of all evils.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Victorious Sponge

Just tell your GP you have already had it at some backstreet vaxx emporium
Then go apeshit when your records aren’t updated
and then get them updated
problem solved

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Hawkins_94
Hawkins_94
4 years ago
Reply to  Victorious Sponge

This is an interesting point, thanks

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Victorious Sponge

I’m holding out for the Salinovax. Salt on the wounds maybe but safe enough.

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this is my username
this is my username
4 years ago
Reply to  Hawkins_94

This gene therapy is an experiment you have every right to refuse. Stand your ground, you will not be alone in that. This is NOT a vaccine, this is a genetic experiment and must be refused.

The narative is that 85% are willing to take it. That is a lie – statistics carefully cherry picked by the nudge unit to get you to change your behaviour and accept this jab as inevitable. Meanwhile they tell us that the UK economy will bounce back – headlines today proclaiming that we’re going to be propsperous once again – no there will be an inevitable stock market crash once furlough is removed. Jobs and businesses will fail in large numbers.

We are being lied to every day in the press. Don’t fall for it.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Hawkins_94

Several friends in the NHS are ‘vaccine’ refusers.

Beware of believing how the msm paint the picture.

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Alethea
Alethea
4 years ago

Hilarious. No. I go to Waitrose two or three times a week. It’s completely normal in what it’s stocking and the quantities available.

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Lydia
Lydia
4 years ago

I started to read today’s post but stopped after the first paragraph.

I feel that there is no point anymore, I’m so sad and angry at what is happening. I fear for for my children’s future.

I have no friends who think and feel the same as me about all of this. They’re happy to do everything the gov tells them and can’t wait to roll their sleeves up.

I only leave the house to go and collect my shopping or visit my mum.

Is this life now? Trapped at home. Am I a bad person for wanting my old life back, to have the freedom to do what I like, to go abroad without having to have a vaccine for a illness that I’ve most probably had and recovered from?

I have my husband for support and he keeps reassuring me that it will end. Some days I agree but then a lot of the time I feel that nothing is going to change.

Sorry for being so miserable and negative but I genuinely have no one to turn to other than posting my thoughts and feelings on here.

Xx

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

We all want our lives back. That makes us good people.The bad people are the vicious, selfish, hysterical cowards who want us locked up so that they can protect their miserable non-lives.
Don’t feel trapped. Your mins us free. It’s the zombies who are trapped in their own cretinous idiocy.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I think you miss the point, Annie.

This isn’t as serious as it is because of “vicious, selfish, hysterical cowards”. That’s just a feel good rant.

It’s serious because of ordinary people.

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Bruce Reynolds
Bruce Reynolds
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

Stay strong and try to be optimistic, this shit show will end there are far more people against Lockdown than the rigged pols would have you believe..

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Bugle
Bugle
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

Lydia, I know just how you feel. You don’t say how old your children are. Mine have all left home and have their own children – and I fear for all of them. What sort of Brave New World are they going to live in? Be thankful you have a husband you get on with: many don’t. Mrs Bugle and I are united in our resistance. I think gene therapy refusers are going to be smeared and bullied, so it’s no good pretending things will get easier in the medium term. Having said all this, the Regime is massively incompetent. Perhaps therein lies a shred of hope.

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Lydia
Lydia
4 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

My children are 12 & 9. They had a very fulfilling life with sports and activities before this. They both loved school and were doing brilliantly but now they struggle to motivate themselves.

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Harry Chara
Harry Chara
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

Sprry to hear that

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Still Got It
Still Got It
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

I have two boys – 10 and 12 and am in a state of perpetual fury. There is a creeping normalisation going on with regards to the kids and their new lives which makes me want to scream.

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Lydia
Lydia
4 years ago
Reply to  Still Got It

Their new lives involve sitting in front a screen, for mine anyway. I’ve spoken to them this morning and I’ve told them that this half term they are to get out as much as they can. Go get your friends out and get some fresh air and exercise.

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Bugle
Bugle
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

That’s the spirit!

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

Trees, fields, parks, balls, bikes, skateboards, dogs, etc.

“Come back for your supper”, as our mum used to say.

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Woden
Woden
4 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

In the olden days ,it was’ come back for your tea,’

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

I am a private tutor….i see those effects everyday…it makes me sick to see it.

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Bugle
Bugle
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

I assume they’re doing online learning, which is no substitute for the real thing. Are you able to home school at all?

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Alethea
Alethea
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

Hang in there, Lydia. Lots of people here feel very much as you do.

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Lydia
Lydia
4 years ago
Reply to  Alethea

Thank you. Some days are harder than others. Just had a big cry to my husband and kids.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

You’re very fortunate that you can do that. Mrs. M is a full-on New Model Citizen. I have to keep my own counsel- I find it easier to do that than many seem to, but it still takes its toll.

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Harry Chara
Harry Chara
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

Don’t be trapped at home then . I am out every day for all manner of things from shopping to visiting friends in their homes / offices , biking 20 miles , etc etc . Fuck these pricks I haven’t ‘obeyed’ any of their nonsense rules and regs since April last year . Live your life it’s YOUR life

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Harry Chara
Harry Chara
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

Feel free to get in touch Lydia . I have been a sounding board for lots of friends and family for months now .

stevie38@live.co.uk

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Lydia
Lydia
4 years ago
Reply to  Harry Chara

Thank you.

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mariehelene
mariehelene
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

I feel exactly the same as you Lydia and I cry every morning for what we have lost to these power mad leaders and will never get back! I’m french and I have a twin brother and family there. I also have a house where I go every year but I refuse to have this experimental vaccine to cross the border ! Does that mean giving up on my country! I will probably move back there if this shitstorm carries on here! And as Harry says: get in touch as I have few friends on my page! I do go out for walks and shopping but not much else!

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jennybean
jennybean
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

I feel the same and am losing all hope. I have 3 kids 13, 10 and 5 and feel sick to my stomach every day that they will try and push a vaccine on them that they have no idea what the long term effects are. My husband is on same page and says we can homeschool them if they try and bring in mandatory Vax but my youngest is autistic and really needs school to help him develop. I cry every day as I’m so scared not for me but them.

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Lydia
Lydia
4 years ago
Reply to  jennybean

Yes, I am the same for my two. I feel sick at the thought of a vaccine for children and testing at school. There is no way I would let that happen.

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jennybean
jennybean
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

They’ve had every other Vax but it’ll be a cold day in hell before they have something that’s still in clinical trials!! 13 year old is meeting her mates in park and taking 10 year old to meet her friends at weekend. Surely there’s plenty of people just getting on with life quietly and ignoring the evil government. My Mum’s 73 and has had 1 jab and is coming to see us when she’s had second one no matter what the government says

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

Stay strong and bugger the rules. My mental health nosedived during the first lockdown when I confined myself to my local areas despite the lack of green spaces and rampant anti-social behaviour. Since then I’ve been out everyday and I don’t care. I realised that no-one cares for me and I need to take care of myself and if I have to go into Central London everyday even for a walk along Regent Street so be it.

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Lydia
Lydia
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

Just going out for a walk can make you feel so much better. Its easy to get trapped indoors especially during winter time.

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GuyRich
GuyRich
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

I feel your anguish Lydia. I have been in this boat since October 2019 with the whole ‘Event 201’ thing and news of a quantum dot tattoo from a ‘patch-like’ vaccine delivery system which would show someone is vaccinated when a UV light is shone on the skin – advertised at the time as beneficial for children.

I genuinely cried at the thought of my children being taken away from me, when the WHOs Mike Ryan suggested that infected people could be taken from homes in a ‘dignified manner’, along with all of the new ‘laws’ laid out to the same effect in the Coronavirus Act.

It hasn’t gotten any easier. I am so utterly depressed (chronically, diagnosed many years ago) and this is all pushing me to my limit. I have young children and their future looks bleak. I have tried looking for freedom cell networks but no one is forthcoming in any of the ones I have found. Quite how they’d even work long term is beyond me but thought it worth a shot.

My partner is supportive but doesn’t think things are as bleak as I make out (she says I catastrophise everything) and we will return to normal soon. We go out for walks every weekend with our children, go to the park etc and she takes them out nearly every day. We are fully prepared to homeschool if needs be.

I have one friend who is suspicious but won’t meet up. My brother is totally on board and we meet regularly, thankfully, and I do see my mum too (less on board but is also suspicious). I have taken to growing my own fruit and vegetables to not only channel my energy/mental health but to also do something useful for my family, getting the kids involved etc.

I don’t have much hope for the future, but while there a like minded people out there like yourself, then there is always hope.

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Lydia
Lydia
4 years ago
Reply to  GuyRich

There’s always hope, lets try and cling on to that and hope that this will be over in the future. We will always have like minded people on here who we can turn to for support.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

You are not a bad person you are wonderful. Sadly its your friends who are the wrong uns…they probably always were…. you just did not realise it. Now you know.

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Lydia
Lydia
4 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

I do know now. My husband said you’ll find new friends. I’ll have to as my friends will be vaxxed and going abroad and I’ll be going to Skegness for my holidays!

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

Skegness ?! Only if you’re lucky ! 🙂

Seriously though, I’d keep trying with the groups angle. Every week our groups get new people who ‘didn’t know any others thought the same’. Once you find a good one, children can meet up, parents can have a mental health support group, or business meeting, over a couple of pints and a snack. Plus just fighting against the tide is very empowering.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

Even the right-on types are majorly pissed off they can’t have a holiday this year. It is unfortunate the “vaccines” arrived (were waved through by MHRA) so early – this is what is making this year much worse than the last one.

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
4 years ago
Reply to  Lydia

i think a lot of us have only here for those who think like we do.is so wonderful to have this

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WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
4 years ago

Got to ask this and go… If you could live anywhere in this God-forsaken country, where would you go?

I need a spot of land and an MP with guts who makes it feel safer than it is because he’s non-compliant, (like Desmond Swayne). I enjoy the company of people and have huge faith in their ability to do good, but I don’t enjoy living cheek by jowl with them. Where could we go?

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Harry Chara
Harry Chara
4 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

Screw THIS country I don’t even want to live here anymore . Had plans to up to the sticks but I would rather leave this shower of shit and the brain dead sheep behind

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Woden
Woden
4 years ago
Reply to  Harry Chara

See the scene in the film ‘My Dinner With Andre’, where the bloke reckons he would like to escape the robots, but it is impossible because they are everywhere.

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Basics
Basics
4 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

Mistake spotted.

Your MP with guts will either be an apparition or else evaporate.

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Bugle
Bugle
4 years ago

“School return date must be ‘signed in blood’, Boris Johnson told.” No – vote down the emergency powers and get the 1922 to wake up and get rid of Boris Johnson.

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Ovis
Ovis
4 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

Parliament is a waste of time and space, it is a distraction. Its role is that of the French National Assembly at Vichy, or the Reichstag after 1933. I don’t really know why people here keep discussing what this or that MP has said. Will they exercise their constitutional authority to do anything other than give cover to the regime? No. They are culpable, the institution is of no use or value.

What we have seen in history is that when democracy is destroyed, dictatorship is preferable to oligarchy. There is no permanent oligarchy, certainly no possibility of a permanent ‘liberal’ oligarchy.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

I think it’s far more serious.

I see no evidence that the majority of MPs actually grasp the fundamental issues : either of civil rights or about Covid itself.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Have to agree with you there Rick…its impossible to overstate the seriousness of this.

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B.F.Finlayson
B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

It seems unfathomable how so many agenda driven, sometimes ‘educated’ but always fundamentally unintelligent party selected MPs/ministers (from all major parties) have hoodwinked the nation for quite so long. Not to put too fine a point on it most MPs are thick, and most ministers fundamentally unqualified/inexperienced for the positions they hold. How did Gideon ever become Chancellor, for example (there are many, many more)?
Perhaps we just didn’t want to call ’em out, as this would force us to actually get of our sorry collective a**es and do something about it between catching up on Soaps and commenting about Strictly on twitter.
The people get the government they deserve might be a convenient truism, but all too apt atm I’m afraid. And we are ALL culpable.

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Bugle
Bugle
4 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

I think that, like the Americans, we imagined that our institutions with their ‘checks and balances’ were strong enough to protect our fundamental freedoms. We now find to our alarm this is no longer the case and we don’t know what to do about it. We have elected a PM who has two talents, avoiding scrutiny and accumulating power. Parliament, despite its occasional shows of affronted dignity seems not to care.

Some daylight brought to bear upon the inner workings of this coup would most likely end it – although, I suspect, we would all find ourselves much poorer.

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B.F.Finlayson
B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

we would all find ourselves much poorer.

We can’t get any poorer than having our lives ripped away and basic liberties arbitrarily denied. We will not get back these days of state imposed imprisonment, nor will compensation be paid. Besides, once the IMF imposes strict austerity conditions for a post-Lockdown ‘future economy’ bailout, all private assets and savings will be at risk (remember Cyprus, Malta, Spain, Greece etc). And for what exactly?

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Bugle
Bugle
4 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

Some one posted a comment here today suggesting that once the Reset has taken place, all the debt – national and private – will be forgiven. Digital currencies will be launched from a new base, and. I guess, good compliant, ‘vaccine’-taking, health-passport bearing citizens will not even notice. The Guardians will have bought the world and the people will be their tenants.

For those who resist, the choice will be stark and the future rough. George Osborne has suggested that the uncertificated will not be able to participate in normal life and should be ignored. As well as being a hysterical over reaction to a relatively minor disease, it raises a good many questions. For example, will the children of the “ignored” be able to attend school, or will they become wards of the state?

But to return to my point, some transparency on the inward workings of this international coup would finish it. Those culpable would suffer shame and prosecutions. Debt forgiveness would not then be forthcoming and the public finances would be in ruins. So the choice is servitude and a bearable standard of living, or freedom and poverty. Personally, I would choose the latter.

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B.F.Finlayson
B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

once the Reset has taken place, all the debt – national and private – will be forgiven

This statement stands in stark contrast to the IMF’s own ‘Future Economy’ Covid bailout loan conditions, already in place in several developing economies. It also goes against the long-prevailing neo-liberal policy of using debt as a means of reversing decades of downward wealth distribution. Debt will not be forgiven, moreover the trillions now being run up by Sunak will be recoverable from private wealth and property. We are already in this mess to approaching £50k per UK citizen. May was already flexing her muscles prematurely in 2017 when threatening to take the homes from the elderly in care – this policy has not been cancelled, merely shelved for a later date.

Osborne has suggested that the uncertificated will not be able to participate in normal life

I have long held that the unqualified should not be able to participate in government economic policy making, which would have excluded Gideon the towel folding historian from the outset. He (and other fellow amateur public school dilettantes) should be made financially accountable for the incompetence and damage inflicted when in office.

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Achilles
Achilles
4 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

More posturing. Will amount to nothing as usual.

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C S
C S
4 years ago

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-australias-victoria-state-enters-snap-lockdown-after-coronavirus-outbreak-linked-to-quarantine-hotels-12215664

Looks as though the last lockdown was really worth it then…I’m sure it will just be for 5 days though…

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  C S

Yup, how’s that zero covid thing working out for them?

“Linked to quarantine hotels” Yeah, great idea to have quarantine hotels. Can’t fail.

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

The virus is thought to have leaked from quarantine hotels.

Ok, who left the door open and let all the viruses out,?

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

It’s worse than that. The explanation is while the person implicated wore their mask in the room, this had a nebulising effect and meant the virus was able to spread through air conditioning systems and through cracks in doorways.

So masks nebulise droplets and release virons. Yep. Logic

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gedhurst
gedhurst
4 years ago

So Imperial were not aware of the affect of sunlight/UV on airborne virons, no idea of seasonality. I’m just trying to assimilate that information, but finding it very difficult.

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Basics
Basics
4 years ago
Reply to  gedhurst

Theoretically speaking, would anyone be comfortable sending the son or daughter off to ICL where other universities don’t harbour such seemingly maniacal staff?

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Lindy
Lindy
4 years ago
Reply to  gedhurst

Add ignoring the risk to one of the most vulnerable groups, care home residents.

it seems there is more that they don’t know vs what they do know

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mikewaite
mikewaite
4 years ago
Reply to  Lindy

I am sure that they know- these are bright kids remember . Its just that they don’t want to know what they know because their boss , the man determining their academic futures, is Ferguson.

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Dodderydude
Dodderydude
4 years ago
Reply to  Lindy

I re-watched this Channel 4 interview with John Edmunds (SAGE) last night to remind myself what a moron he is. Note the number of times he says words to the effect of “We/I didn’t know…” or “We couldn’t foresee…” “I’m not sure…” His whole demeanour is extremely disconcerting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsH5u9LJOH4

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Nobody2021
Nobody2021
4 years ago

Mandatory vaccination = Trial without jury for a crime you have not committed and may never commit but could possibly commit. There is no plea for innocence, by standing trial you are automatically admitting guilt.

Mandatory vaccine passport = Confirmation that you pled guilty.

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If you accept both for this particular “crime” then you are giving express permission to be treated the same for all future crimes regardless of whether or not you are even capable of committing them. Crimes will be determined by the state and the mere possibility of you committing said crime is enough to confirm your guilt.

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BertieFox
BertieFox
4 years ago

Has anyone heard of a group called Covid19 Assembly? They keep sending me e-mails. I don’t trust them at all.

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Basileus
Basileus
4 years ago
Reply to  BertieFox

I am suspicious.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  BertieFox

Yes I have heard of them

I think TY is involved, among others

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TheOriginalBlackPudding
TheOriginalBlackPudding
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes he is involved and gave them a mention on here months ago. Martin Kulldorff has endorsed them.
The website is currently a temporary “holding” site, with a new one to be imminently.

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Basileus
Basileus
4 years ago
Reply to  TheOriginalBlackPudding

The temporary website hasn’t changed for about three months.

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Stephanos
Stephanos
4 years ago
Reply to  BertieFox

Yes, I have heard of them. I did some work for them ‘tagging’ articles ATL for their new website; the tagging was accomplished with the knowledge of Toby I understand. It seems to me that they are genuine. The person with whom I corresponded put me in touch with the ‘Back to the Old Normal Group’.

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
4 years ago

So the salami slicing continues. Vaccine passports to fly, how about the end of the salami, vaccine passports to go out, visit friends, go in a shop, go to the cinema etc. The police having the power to demand to see your passport/papers and if you don’t have it, you’ll be arrested.

I would of said a year ago that this was conspiracy theory, but not any more.

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l835
l835
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

We will definitely need it to book theatre, cinema, sport or gig tickets etc Visits to cafes and restaurants will continue to use T&T.

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

It will be the jolly old Sector system that the old Nazi party used , ( vere r your papeers!! ) The New Nazi party will be just the same !! It was only one mans lifetime ago , oh we think we are so much more advanced “ it could never be like that again “ Stand by cos it’s here !!.. Now if we all chucked our Smart phones in the bin , that would be a start !!

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

It’s in the nature of Psychopaths’ to lie

The lying of this regime has been on an industrial scale

The 22nd of February became the 29th of February without so much as a blush

The Greater Covidia have fallen for it and really do think they are being vaccinated

They really do think they are going to get their freedom back

All roads lead to Jonestown

Twelve million have supped the Kool Aid so far

(I’m still down to have Piers pad so keep your mitts off)

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Reckon he’s got more than one, Cecil. I’ll take the one in mid Sussex.

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crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
4 years ago

In the same way that some shops don’t accept Amex, Diners Card you will find some countries won’t accept some vaccines. Within that there will likely subsets relating to upgrades in the same way you upgrade your iphone.

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Mr Taxpayer
Mr Taxpayer
4 years ago

I’ll carry a card if I HAVE to. If I have to put an app on my phone, I’ll get a cheap phone with nothing on it but the app and only turn the phone on when required to show it.

Last edited 4 years ago by Mr Taxpayer
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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr Taxpayer

Then you are collaborating
We will find ways around the system
fake papers and apps will be readily available
The Government is inherently incompetent

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr Taxpayer

I haven’t got a phone. Live free (er).

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primesinister
primesinister
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr Taxpayer

please dont do any of those things ,it wont be easy but we must resist

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crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
4 years ago

Another Lockdown in Victoria. This time it’s Dan Andrews vs Kent Variant. May the best side win!

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chaos
chaos
4 years ago

A Bill Gates advert (about his new climate change book) every few minutes on TalkRadio.. I guess TalkRadio don’t mind losing listeners.. Bill is a eugenecist. He doesn’t even have a degree.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  chaos

Talk Radio lost me a while ago.

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GuyRich
GuyRich
4 years ago
Reply to  chaos

I raised this the other day. Absolute shilling. Scum.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  chaos

Largest farmland owner now in the USA apparently. Funny that. This little twat wants to kill people, then feed the remainder with his food monopoly.

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xplod
xplod
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Soylent Green, 2022-3-4-5.

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rose
rose
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

He could also starve the remainder if he owns all the farmland

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  chaos

I get email notifications from Waterstones and Foyle’s and they have been pushing Gates’s book for weeks now.

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maggie may
maggie may
4 years ago
Reply to  chaos

It was on Classic FM as well. I guess with all the advertising revenue they’re losing from businesses which aren’t operating (i think there was a piece on this ATL recently) they’re having to take what they can get ie propaganda from government and others like Gates.

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  chaos

He doesn’t even have a degree.

What does that even have to do with anything? Some of the thickest people I’ve ever met have degrees.

Gates – as much as I hate the man – can hire more people with firsts from Oxford and Cambridge, Princeton and Caltech than you or I could afford wine gums.

This detracts from your main point, which is spot on. Talk Radio, like every other media outlet has been bought and paid for by globalists and the government.

Last edited 4 years ago by AidanR
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James Leary #KBF
James Leary #KBF
4 years ago

Listened to the Delingpod yesterday with Josh, the running ex-Marine who’s taking himself on a solo run/walk from the south coast to Hadrian’s Wall along with his English White Dragon to publicise the death of free speech, and English democracy. Somebody had set up a GoFundMe page to pay his young family bills and for a lawyer when plod jump on him. I went to it last night. It’s gone. Been taken down. Natch.

https://youtu.be/UfQSqh9bZhc

Telegram link.

https://t.me/lionheartengland/316

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  James Leary #KBF

Still on u-tube.

White dragon though ? Dubious alchemical symbology …

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James Leary #KBF
James Leary #KBF
4 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

LOVE White Rabbit, though.

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Achilles
Achilles
4 years ago

The fact Imperials model ignores seasonality shows you how far from reality they have drifted. The model is their reality now and they will happily ignore even the most well established principles of respiratory viruses if they don’t support their beliefs. It is the Koran to them now. These people are very, very dangerous.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  Achilles

Models are shyte. Globaloneywarming is an example. No connection to reality. None. Ferguson et al are not programmers (I do program). I could rip apart their outsourced code, schemas, apps in about 4 hours. All shyte.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Yep, these models are a backwards and simplistic thing that only a certain type of deluded individual would engage with. They are fine for modelling entities with simple rules on a massive scale but can never be successful for something with as many variables, unknowns and chaotic interactions as an epidemic – as Professor Pantsdown has proven time and time again. They could possibly make decent use of AI and machine learning but I would imagine that they find it difficult to get machine learning algorithms to give the dramatic output they desire.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Achilles

Retrospectively, the models in general have rarely been anywhere near reality – although they have been the key driver of much nonsense.

The general distance from the real world was shown with Vallance’s ‘4000 deaths a day’ nonsense back in November when several modelling projections were issued, most of which didn’t even mimic the shape of a virus curve.

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B.F.Finlayson
B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago

At first, it would just be a glorified doctor’s note, to help you get on that longed-for flight to Greece. Later, it could exist to “reassure” your employer.

Lara Prendergast in the Spectator

Stop there please, as you seem to be either deliberately or unwittingly avoiding the real issue that a ‘piece of paper’ is no longer needed in the 2020s. A vaxx passport (like a MOT certificate or a DVLA tax disc) will be a digital procedure available by tapping in one’s own personal number plate ID. One can already find out how many ‘MOT advisories’ the neighbour’s posh car had last time round by tapping in their registration number, and check which wheel size to boot.
The link between State and Corporate has strengthened in the last year, with supermarkets being allowed to thrive while small shops and local economies go to the wall aided by police and local government intimidation. Accordingly, there will be no national or local paper passport, compliant world states will allow the Vaxx to be its own bio-passport.
The psychologists in marketing are working on this, with an ever more confident and dominant Pharma (in the manner of 90s mobile phones) projecting ‘basic’ and ‘luxury’ models, regular free upgrades, lifetime contracts etc..
Freed from being simply a C19 vaccine gene therapy will incorporate all manner of must have bio-apps & add ons, and every year we will be running after the latest models; willing to shell out $trillions worldwide for the privilege/necessity. Soon a jab will not even be necessary, and each of us will have their own preference (chewy capsule, energy drink, herbal smoke inhalation).
Then there’s the matter of cost. Some will favour the expensive Gates backed i-MOON technology, some will economise with ‘Lives-R-Us’ or Tesco’s own pay-as-you-breathe ‘Every Little Dose Helps’ budget brand. Will there will be Vaxx class snobbery? Of course there will!! Vaxx Wars will drive sales still further.
Oh, I almost forgot, the NHS, what about the NHS, doesn’t it have a say in all of this?
I think we already know the answer.

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John
John
4 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

You already have an ID number from birth, it’s your NHS number. As soon as you reach employment age you get a National insurance number.

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B.F.Finlayson
B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago
Reply to  John

My point exactly. Passport number also. Numbers already used as a digital key to unlock personal information. The extent of the information linked to the number (and so available to police, border control, employers, HMRC etc) is the only change. Immunisation info will be simply layered into this, and so be available for inquiry, so there is no need for a separate vaxx ID.
Corporate Pharma will be in control so will ensure this info is updated, and state the level of disease protection you have bought into within your chosen contract. It is called taking control of your health and your loved ones, and will be 100% backed by the insurance sector. We will not notice the change, it will be subtle and painless, and within 3 years we all have private health care plans – or lose our basic civil liberties permanently.

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leicestersq
leicestersq
4 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

It may not be a piece of paper. Isnt the crucial thing here that you are obliged to share your health information with others for inappropriate reasons? The reason for the sharing isnt to protect anyone else’s health, it is to coerce people into taking the vaccine. That is a breach of the Nuremburg code and the Data protection act.

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B.F.Finlayson
B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago
Reply to  leicestersq

Isnt the crucial thing here that you are obliged to share your health information with others for inappropriate reasons?

Privacy has already been compromised by allowing police to access personal health records, without any parliamentary debate or opposition. The ‘common cause’ argument, used time and again to trump any human rights objections, is being used daily by the state to drive a coach and horses through now obsolete notions of civil liberties.
But it is worse than that, because not only will private Vaxx contracts (aka gene therapy) become the compulsory norm, they will become the desirable norm. The sought after, increasingly expensive, life accessory to boast about. There will be no concern of out-dated notions like human rights or healthcare for all or even privacy of info.
It doesn’t need nano-chips in the vaccines (a stupid idea put out there by Pharma just to be debunked), it is the process and technology itself that is life & culture destroying. However did we manage our bank accounts and personal lives in the 90s without that screen sitting on the table, or the insistent little beeping box in our hands?

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  leicestersq

That is a breach of the Nuremburg code and the Data protection act.

Have any lawyers stated that?

Nothing personal, but I’m starting to find bar room barristers extremely tiring. They rarely add anything meaningful to the debate, and their extrusions serve no purpose other than to say ‘look at me, I’m clever’, while actually saying ‘look at me, I’m opining on something I’ve no training or experience in, because it looks easy when Rumpole of the Bailey does it’.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

Lawyers & barristers are highly overrated, as has been demonstrated during the panicdemic.

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I don’t disagree.. there are plenty of mediocrities, and I don’t wish to ‘appeal to authority’, but I’ve been around a lot of subcultures (e.g. freeman on the land) where they’ve echo-chambered their way into a complete misreading of the law.

“I’ve got my rights” they will cry, as they are clapped in irons and led to the cells at the point of a gun. No mate, you don’t, because the rules of the game don’t work the way you think they do, because you’re reading them all wrong.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

Not sure they misunderstood how the law was meant to work, they just didn’t keep up with the neo-liberal take over & common law being replaced with rules based order regulation.

Freeman on the land, are wonderfully naive people, i admire greatly, but either way there’s no such thing as natural justice or a fair trial its all rigged to go the establishment way. We live in a hierarchical society its who you know & how much (money) power you have that matters.

Last edited 4 years ago by Anti_socialist
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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Again I don’t disagree, and I don’t think it’s anything new, because it’s precisely what my father told me 30 years ago.

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straightalkingyorkshireman
straightalkingyorkshireman
4 years ago

Unless I’ve missed it the NSPCC has been rather quiet about schools being closed.

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Paulus
Paulus
4 years ago
Reply to  straightalkingyorkshireman

There are so many charities that have been far to quiet on the harms being done in their areas of campaigning; cancer; heart disease; dementia; domestic violence and the list goes on.

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Paulus

indeed. no more contributions to these useless sods. It is well know that most contributions pay for salaries and very little goes for the cause.

Rather make a contribution to the Free Speech Union by becoming a member

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Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson
4 years ago
Reply to  Paulus

The charities have been useless and I will never donate to them again ever.

This also includes military charities such as the British Legion & Help for Heroes especially as its a disgrace that the British army has a branch that works against the people of this country.

They can all get stuffed & shan’t be sorry if they have to wind down their operations.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Bart Simpson

I think we have to face the fact that ‘charities’ or certainly the larger ones are just multinational businesses these days who don’t have to pay any tax. They own huge assets and employ vast numbers and have CEOs on eye watering salaries. They were no more likely to come out against this than Amazon.

This is the new phase of capitalism that has been developing for a long time. It has no respect for national borders or democratic governments. They all pursue global strategies and are in league with global NGO organisations.

Ironically the modern ‘Left’ are fully signed up for this but that does not mean they are the true architects. They are just Lenin’s ‘useful idiots’.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  straightalkingyorkshireman

I wouldn’t read too much into examples like this. Charities can be ‘got’ by the charge of political activity, and are also sensitive to funding pressure.

A difficult balance.

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

The ‘political activity’ thing is not something that’s ever bothered the big charities before.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Charities, philanthropy, altruism all = corporate neoliberal globalism aka communism to you comrade.

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

The primary purpose of charities is to provide awful people with terrible things on their conscience with a way to get to sleep at night.

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this is my username
this is my username
4 years ago

Project Immanuel – Announcement
https://odysee.com/@Projekt-Immanuel:3/Announcement_Eng:6

“In this video we would like to introduce Project Immanuel, which critically examines the scientific background of the so-called “Corona Crisis.” With the help of the natural scientist and virologist Dr. Stefan Lanka, all fundamental publications on SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19 are closely scrutinised and scientifically examined in a series of posts.”

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago

Trying to buy an EAG oven – no stock available. No frozen french croissants at Ocado (much better than the local ones). Think a lot of products from Europe will become difficult to get

Later this year we will be presented with food inflation and higher taxes

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captainbeefheart
captainbeefheart
4 years ago

A global ID card.

“It’s not a conspiracy! All this evolved over the last 11 months of bumbling cock-ups! It was never planned! It’s the only way we can go back to ‘normal’!”

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Apache
Apache
4 years ago
Reply to  captainbeefheart

If they want a global ID card then say so. But it must include all countries and all people. No ID card no rights – asylum seekers.

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  Apache

Steady on, they’ll try to sell it to right wingers that way, while telling the left it’ll allow them to better safeguard refugees’ rights and lives.

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  captainbeefheart

I don’t think it’s this back or white.

The capacity of governments for cock-up and groupthink is undoubted.

No doubt there is pure evil at large, but the most coherent narrative I’ve come across so far is the ‘convergent opportunism’ one, posited by Mike Yeadon.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

You’ll come round …

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  captainbeefheart

Yep. In the nicest possible way, ‘Fuck off Toby !’. 🙂

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Cbird
Cbird
4 years ago

I understand that the vaccines contain animal products. Will vegans be allowed to claim exemption to vaccination then?

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Basics
Basics
4 years ago
Reply to  Cbird

Yes.

Will you be able to travel the globe with a V stamped in your passport? Unknown.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  Cbird

Yes, as long as you wear a very big Yellow Star on your jacket and tug your forelock at the masktards and jump out of the way with your head bowed.

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Cbird

sadly most people fail to do their own research in order to make an informed decision so many vegans will happily take the jab because the ad on the TV said it was safe

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kvnmoore561
kvnmoore561
4 years ago

So, apparently testers are out in my area today. If we’re in lockdown and lockdowns work, what exactly are they testing for? Is it to see that infections are down and the lockdown ‘worked’? I don’t get it, seems to be a complete waste of time and money. Anyway, I’ll politely refuse if they turn up.

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Nobody2021
Nobody2021
4 years ago
Reply to  kvnmoore561

See my post below: https://dailysceptic.org/2021/02/12/latest-news-283/#comment-411221

I think they’re propping up the economy whilst lining their own pockets. Robin Hood and the Sherriff of Nottingham rolled into one.

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kvnmoore561
kvnmoore561
4 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

Thanks.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

Ay up ! Robin Hood was one of the good guys.

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leicestersq
leicestersq
4 years ago
Reply to  kvnmoore561

They clearly need to find some more cases to keep the scare story going. With the PCR test, the more they test the more cases they will get irrespective of how many people are actually ill with Covid. Without those numbers it is difficult to make an argument to continue the lockdown. Sad that so many people find it difficult to understand that testing isnt always 100% accurate. In the case of PCR testing I doubt it is even 5% accurate.

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago

what have they done?

“The crisis is projected to create the first ever drop in the global Human Development Index”

“estimates suggest that an additional 100-420 million people may fall below the US$1.90-perday poverty line”

“double the number of food-insecure people globally from 135 million to 265 million – including 74 million children”

“there will be an additional 3.43 million stunted children as a direct result of the COVID-19 crisis”

“children have a higher risk of death from diarrhoea, pneumonia, malaria and measles”

https://docs.wfp.org/api/documents/WFP-0000123232/download/?_ga=2.7984689.2053770521.1613121465-1163328150.1613121465

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

If it saves one life!

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Marcus Junius Brutus
Marcus Junius Brutus
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

This is biggest global catastrophe since WW2. For most people that penny hasn’t dropped yet. Good post, thanks.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Junius Brutus

It truly is. That is horrific.

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Junius Brutus

I only really considered UK horrors and changes to life expectancy in the UK til last summer. Then started reading WHO, UN, WFP documents. Considering only 2 million have died ‘of’ covid so far worldwide, deaths worldwide (in QALYs) could exceed this from each of suicides, malaria, diarrhea, starvation, malnutrition induced disease etc etc etc. Add them together and this is an absolute catastrophe

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Basileus
Basileus
4 years ago

The implications of vitamin D deficiency on COVID-19 for at-risk populations
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7543577/

The complications of obtaining sufficient vitamin D are further exacerbated in subgroups at risk for COVID-19; the complications include the global quarantine, isolation, and stay-at-home orders that have been given to individuals who have been officially diagnosed with COVID-19, believe they have contracted COVID-19, and who are taking measures to reduce their risk of exposure.1,2 For many, especially older individuals in nursing homes or community long-term care facilities, as well as for ethnic minorities who more commonly live in densely populated areas, these measures include little or no movement outside their home.1,2 Major implications of limited or no time spent outdoors are the reduced synthesis of vitamin D from sunlight exposure and the increased risk of vitamin D deficiency development.

What was it that Hancock said?

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

During lockdown version one Hancock asserted that sunbathing was illegal.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

It was totally obvious that the government were desperate for this virus to be as severe as possible. We knew very early on that vitamin D massively reduced risk at negligible cost. They surpressed this information and made people hide indoors during the sunniest spring/summer ever.

I’d they wanted to save lives they would have distributed vitamins widely or at least advised their use. The sheep think the dictatorship is there to protect them, when in fact the psychopaths need people to die to prove the virus is scary.

The only actions the dictatorship have taken are the ones with the greatest financial costs. If an effective drug or mitigation comes then it must be burried unless it is expensive. Economic destruction is their objective and lives do not matter. The spending spree is happening everywhere – local government have also been told to spend like mad, and they have been given deadlines to use it or lose it.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

They also denied HCQ treatments from the start of this scam.

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Basics
Basics
4 years ago

Travellers from England face checks at the Scottish border after UK ministers snubbed SNP demands to quarantine all international arrivals.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/travellers-from-england-face-checks-at-scottish-border-dbpmb5c5g
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There are many in Scotland who wish to visit friends and relatives in other parts of the UK and return. This isn’t about folks travelling to Scotland – let’s be honest why would you do that in the current situation, unless studying collapsing dictatorships of the world for a PHD.

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Andrew K
Andrew K
4 years ago

I don’t know if anybody BTL has picked up on this story ATL about continued lockdowns in china.

https://swprs.org/lockdowns-in-china-2021/

Some of these video’s emerging from china THIS YEAR are very disturbing. And to think everybody has followed the lead of a crazy dictator in China. This link must be shares and shared more to show these zealots who keep banging on that lockdown worked in China.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrew K

Is Wancock so very different from Xi or Bidentard with his 7.000 troops encamped around the White House? When will Doris call in the army?

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

yes, the most popular president in history, if you believe the vote count [and who does?] – yet he does not feel safe without an enhanced military presence around him.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrew K

That ambush testing is frightening.

You have to be careful, we’ve seen this before

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago

Covid Fascists always changing the messaging, objectives.

1-Diapers and Distancing, just flatten the Fat curves of Doris’ fat ugly obese body they said.

2-Shut down all businesses, public places, to limit the infection, transmission they said.

3-Test and Vaxx the vulnerable they said.

4-Vaxxing 70% of the vulnerables will allow normality they promised.

5-Now: to travel, to work, to go to the toilet you must be vaccinated and wear your useless, stupid, idiotic face diaper for at least 1 year…..

What a load of fascist horse shit. 80% of the sheeple apparently applaud, bleat more more more, according to the Fake Polls. Fake data, Fake Dead counts. Fake Pandemic. Flock Off already.

Wake up.

Last edited 4 years ago by FerdIII
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PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago

The vaccinated master race is here. For the rest of us it’s the Gulags until we’ve been re-educated.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

But we’ve been pre-warned by Mr Solzhenitsyn !

Sharpen those billhooks, oil those cricket bats, and let’s see how up for it the snatch squads are.

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Nobody2021
Nobody2021
4 years ago

The vaccine passports make me think of a man who’s wife has just caught him with his mistress.

“It just kinda happened”

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PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago

I’ve just seen a global id card. It reads “I’m a cunt.”

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

That’s mine, where did you find it?

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alw
alw
4 years ago

Please sign this petition against Vaccine passports. Share far and wide.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/569957

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this is my username
this is my username
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

That one is gaining some serious traction – the government won’t be able to ignore that. You can actually watch the numbers ticking up. Excellent. 🙂

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

The Government will absolutely be able to ignore
pay attention

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

the government won’t be able to ignore that.

Bless…

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

Signed it, but wasn’t there a very similar petition a few weeks ago, which was debated in ‘Parliament’?

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Marcus Junius Brutus
Marcus Junius Brutus
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

The petition committee has been suspended, so this will achieve fuck all.

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Andrew K
Andrew K
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

I’ve signed it for what good it’ll do. Now they know my name and post code it’ll be easier to cart me off to the detention centres for reeducation.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrew K

I always use Her Maj’s – SW1A 1AA

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BTLnewbie
BTLnewbie
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

Signed (but to little effect). I look forward to meeting Andrew K in the re-education centre!

Last edited 4 years ago by BTLnewbie
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Cat Woman
Cat Woman
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

Up to 89,700 moments ago…

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norwegian
norwegian
4 years ago

I accept that the west is in for harder times with regards to less of many things but I do not accept a future a la Scam-19. Problem is, if most people accept such shite the shite will be forced on me. Not having that, I’m joining the resistance, no surrender!

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  norwegian

Yes, agreed.

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alw
alw
4 years ago

Good to hear that Great Barrington Facebook page up and running again. No exclamation as to why it was removed.

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
4 years ago

Unless there is resistance we are headed for full on totalitarianism.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Fascism is always inplemented incrementally. Piece by piece. Changing messaging. Changed objectives. Nazis and Commies used ‘science’ to impress the Sheeple and get compliance. There is no science to the Covidian cult, just fascism.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Indeed, and one opportunity will be at the Great Reopening, which I believe is scheduled for 20th March.

Yesterday someone posted this link. Catherine Austin Fitts points out what is needed for the oligarchs to fail.

Planet Lockdown | Catherine Austin Fitts (Full Interview) (rumble.com)

Last edited 4 years ago by PastImperfect
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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago

https://mobile.twitter.com/TTBikeFit/status/1359911243147018243

How the Oxford Stringency Index tried to undermine the Swedish success, trying to show they did lockdown. Ends up chasing its own tail because it pushed other less stringent countries into the control(Finland) and they had even less deaths.

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leicestersq
leicestersq
4 years ago

Now we know that when Matt Hancock used the weasel words of ‘no plans for vaccine passports’ he straight out lied to us. This is going to give him very bad Karma indeed.

Does anyone trust him at this point?

And what are these passports for exactly? They are of no use to anyone worried about Covid because as we know, vaccines do not stop the spread of Covid. If the vaccines worked, you could simply avoid Covid by taking the vaccine yourself. The only people left vulnerable to Covid would be those who choose not to take the vaccine, a risk that those people are happy to accept.

That leaves us as Sherlock Holmes would say, with just one reason for vaccine passports. And that is to coerce us into taking them, just as the conspiracy theorists have said. And why would they do this? Clearly the vaccine doesnt do the good it is supposed to do, it cannot stand up on its own merits. The question then is just how bad is it?

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  leicestersq

Internal passports a la Soviet Union.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  leicestersq

As its a global plan, this country can’t stop them if people need them to travel, trouble is, things don’t stop there, Blair, still sticking his oar in, has always wanted ID for everyone.

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Is it a global pan or a western one? There seems to be doubt about Russia going down that road. Too much collective memory of the USSR.

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Ganjan21
Ganjan21
4 years ago
Reply to  leicestersq

He is currently top of my shit list. The little runt is a maniac.

Exactly, the vaccine doesn’t stop spreading the virus so why the effing passport. I am seriously beginning to think there must be some shit in the vaccine to try to persuade people to take it. More money for Big Pharma? To eventually cull the population? I am way open to theories at this stage

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  Ganjan21

Aren’t we all?
All, that is, except for an elderly rellie of mine, who is DETERMINED to accept the jab (next week) and won’t brook any argument whatsoever. I’m not even sure what he expects to gain from it. He knows now it won’t ”allow” him to travel (as there’s nowhere we’re ”allowed” to go) and he isn’t afraid of catching the Coercid either. Perhaps there’s some misguided sense that he’s doing it for the well-being of the community – I don’t know. I’ll just keep plugging the vitamin D and zinc advice. There doesn’t seem much more to do. I’m worried though.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Ganjan21

well, put it like this: even if you’re not as hardcore as I am, you can at the very least be certain that it’s NOT what it says on the tin: – a vaccine that will prevent the spread of a respiratory virus. If that is the concern, then why was not the flu vaccine similarly mandated? why have there never been ANY mandates for vaccines, even for extremely dangerous diseases such as TB and polio? And why should the government be so concerned about protecting sick and elderly people from being carried off by a respiratory virus? [‘the old man’s friend’]? And why was it rushed through in record time? And why were the usual trial procedures dispensed with? and why were civil indemnities issued? …so many things just don’t add up, it all stinks to high heaven…. I think in my case it is my intuition which is telling me that this is the worst case scenario [ie, genocide] I don’t have any direct evidence for this, but I know from experience that I am very intuitive, and my intuition has seldom or ever been wrong. I hope this is a first.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

Given that there are documents showing this to be literally a human experiment gene therapy costed for a few years, I am guessing it is part of some general investigation into how nanotechnologies will be inserted into humans with the eventual hookup to the social credit cloud via 5G.

Once Gates and his friends have worked it all out on the ordinary scum, it will be used on themselves though not as social control but some form of transhumanist improvement. ALso, such improvements will be sold by corporations to those who have the money.

Make no mistake, this is absolutely dystopian: Look up Judy Mikovits ‘Plandemic’ and also Dolores Cahill and others.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  leicestersq

The phrase ‘no plans‘ is one of the oldest disguises for a lie in the book.

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pvenkman
pvenkman
4 years ago

I suspect passports are part of the global plan there is nothing that our government can do about it.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago

To quote Dr Ian Malcolm
“Life finds a way”
We will find a way around the jab certificates
The Government is inherently incompetent

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Ganjan21
Ganjan21
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

A poster mentioned here before of a potential way around it……… when you get a call from your GP to get jabbed, tell them you have already had it at a vaccination tent somewhere and why were they not informed? Insist you have had the vaccine and its a disgrace they haven’t passed the information on to your GP and demand it goes on your record for you to obtain the passport. Not sure how it would work but hey, worth a try.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Ganjan21

Government incompetence is our friend

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Ganjan21

Like the way you think ! 🙂

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Ganjan21

And the next time, and the next time ( I mean the booster jabs etc )

So it is just a short-term thing.

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

Be that as it may, border officers in France, Germany and pretty much any other country are inflexible and brook no debate.

While what you say is true, it’s basically beside the point.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

For me personally, it’s not a problem. I’m of an age and disposition where I’ve done enough travelling, seen plenty of the world, can take or leave foreign holidays, and am unlikely to need to travel for work. So I don’t see not being able to cross borders as a particularly big deal.

But it’s a fiendishly effective way to force young people to comply.

And that’s before they start to require it routinely for domestic activities.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Also bear in mind the millions of people in this country with close relatives abroad.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Since I have one (adult) offspring in Spain and one in Singapore, I recognise that situation…

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I told my mother last year that she should have come to England to see her grandchildren as they would be closing the border or making it so expensive. Of course, she thought and thinks I am a conspiracy theorist ( I am yet to send her videos etc ) so said she didn’t want to do the isolation, fair enough, in the house, even though they have a garden etc.

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

We’re in the same boat…

While I’m grateful to have seized the day and done the travel and whatnot, it’s never occured to me to say ‘well, doesn’t affect me so it’s fine’.

I’m not saying you have, but it’s a rationalisation I’ve seen a lot from people in general.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

Yes, absolutely. It’s wrong and must be fought.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I tell you honestly if I am stuck in the UK forever, I will kill myself.

I HATE this country. I love France.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

De gustibus non est disputandum, I suppose. Each to his own. But you probably should have bailed out across the border before the end of the year, if that was your view.

Personally my suspicion is that while we will have our own problems, they are nothing to what Europe will be facing as the EU superstate project caves in on its rotten foundations.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

The days of young people travelling to Morocco or whatever on a limited budget are OVER.

The climatology fanatics will ensure that. And millennials and z support these fanatics and would rather sit in their houses watching netflicks or some ‘influencer’ garbage anyway.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

Outside Western Europe, a $100 bill will continue to work wonders.

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katz
katz
4 years ago

I see that China has banned the BBC due to it broadcasting “fake news”. Nice to hear that a world power has taken heed of what happened in my house last Summer and has followed my example.

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

fantastic

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

yes, why don’t we copy China’s better ideas?

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

I NEVER blame China for any of this. China is China.

It is ENTIRELY the fault of Westerners.

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago

I’ve just been sent a link from a friend in NZ. It’s an excellent site, and here’s one of the articles:
https://voicesforfreedom.co.nz/studies-suggest-4-vitamins-to-lower-risk-of-severe-covid19/

There’s a PDF file you can download for a positive message to share with others: ”The day the people stood up”…..

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

Great link.

Yes these supplements really do work

Number 1: Vitamin D, get your levels up, and you can also ask your doctor to test your levels, a very easy blood test.

 

Number 2: Vitamin C, we know it’s working well. There have been some studies on COVID where vitamin C has shown to have very good benefits in the outcome of an illness.

 

Number 3: Zinc stops viral replication multiple ways, so it prevents the virus from hijacking your DNA, prevents the virus from replicating. It also prevents the virus from entering the cell, so zinc is very important right now.

 

Number 4: Quercetin, which is what’s called a natural bioflavonoid. Quercetin opens up the cells in your body so that zinc can get inside your cells, where it works. So think of quercetin as the key. Think of zinc as the repairman, that is allowed into the house, so-to-speak,” says Dr. Osborne.

Note Quercetin plays a similar role as HCQ – helping the Zinc getting into the cell

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

👍

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peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

The ATL article from Canada describing covid as three times worse than seasonal flu is actually a very story.
With all the efforts of the worldwide ‘mafia’ involved in this scam, they can only get this result.
As the excellent letter from the retired GP in ATL described so lucidly, the ‘mafia’ has been doing its level best to deny all sufferers of this coronavirus from having any of the increasingly vast array of drugs/medicines that would relieve symptoms enormously if allowed to be given.
Yet despite this they can only get it up to 3 times worse than seasonal flu! And in many areas of the world nowhere near these levels.
Early use of such as HCQ, zinc, ivermectin, vit D, asthma inhalers, even vicks nasal spray would have reduced hospitalisations to normal flu numbers or below.
It was and is a deliberate attempt to inflate numbers that has caused problems.

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Canada-stan is full on retard for CV Fascism. This article is a joke.
Death from the normal flu for the over 80s is about 2%.
Death from CV 19 for the over 80s is about 5-6%.
Hence the 3x greater risk.
If under 60 there is little risk dying from either.
As usual the Covidiot cult plays with numbers, no context, no reality, no even handedness in discussing the data.
The article headline gives the impression that all people are 3x more likely to die from CV. Factually this is a lie.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Flu is more of a risk to under 40s than Covid. Covid is a gerryatric disease primarily.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Death from CV 19 for the over 80s is about 5-6%.

Wow, different to most of the stats I’ve seen. Evidence ?

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Basics
Basics
4 years ago

Care Home Relatives Scotland.

Bringing together people who have loved ones in nursing/residential homes & have been locked out for 10months. Email chrscotland@gmail.com find us on Facebook

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrScotland

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Campaigning group working to return relatives to care homes. Critical for good care.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Did you previously wonder what it would be like if Extinction Rebellion ran the county?

Well you know now

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concrete68
concrete68
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

I often wondered what it would be like if we elected a fat lying bastard on the basis he was a cheery fat lying bastard. Well now I know.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  concrete68

“Well now I know.”

Indeed. We know it’s much the same as if we’d put a bearded lying “zero covid” “herd immunity is eugenics” bastard in office.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Yes plague on all the bastard’s houses…I thought they both looked shit in the GE campaign anyway…especially Johnson…what a cretin.

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concrete68
concrete68
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The difference between knowing and believing. That’s what got us in this place.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  concrete68

Oh, you want to preserve your illusion that “zero covid” Corbyn in office, surrounded by Labour panickers, would have done something entirely different from what he was pushing the government to do?

Understandable, I suppose, but not particularly useful if you want to address the real world.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Spot on and I think we know whose driving this!

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concrete68
concrete68
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Spot on meaning “yes I don’t like climactic activism so pretend this is something to do with them rather than face reality “?

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Jolly Green Giant
Jolly Green Giant
4 years ago

Once the government starts flatly denying that there are any plans for covid passports, you can bet your pension that they are coming. It’s like that article says though, the scheme will start small (holidays only) then gradually be expanded until in encompasses pretty much anything else essential to everyday living … work, shopping, pubs, restaurants, gigs, cinemas etc. etc.

So much for vaccines being the “road back to normal”. Coronavirus has a 99.5% survival rate anyway. Even without the vaccines (for argument’s sake I’m assuming here that they work as advertised). Once they’ve been fully rolled out, the death rate will be so tiny as to be barely noticable.

Anyone who still thinks that all this is about “controlling the virus” is an idiot.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Jolly Green Giant

Obviously, international pressure has been a key factor in all this vaccine passport nonsense, as the boys and girls in the gang polish their self-importance ahead of the interests of the populace.

One fascinating aspect of Covid baloney is that our Brexit government has been far more susceptible to this than non-Swexit Sweden, who managed to hang on much longer, despite recent concessions.

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Mike
Mike
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I get the impression that the government in Sweden won’t have to try so hard to convince people to get micro chipped etc. No need then for the strong arm tactics..

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String
String
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Yes. saw a mini film on them a while ago (pre-2020) but it certainly appeared as though large portions of the population lived via microchip – one guy had one in his arm for work ID, another in his hand for something else (cash?). Got the impression it was something they were very far along with, in the main.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

‘Swexit’! Sounds good that lol.

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Jolly Green Giant

Once the principle of a Covid passport is established it won’t be long before it is expanded to include other things like booster vaccines, vaccines for other illness and vaccines for whatever the next new virus is that appears over the next few years. It could then easily morph into a form of ID card and anyone who displeases the state in someway will have their “passport” removed or restricted thus essentially excluding them from society. Of course as with all these things the real criminals will find a way around it by purchasing a “passport” on the black market.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

The real criminals will be happy to sell to the rest of us, too. 🙂

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BertieFox
BertieFox
4 years ago

Has anyone heard of a group called Covid19 Assembly?

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  BertieFox

Yes. They’ve been mentioned on here a few times.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  BertieFox

What is it?

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Maverick
Maverick
4 years ago

To provide some hope to those who are suffering through this shitshow, does anyone have a possible, positive scenario to how this all ends?

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  Maverick

That’s a tough question. Did you used to work as an A Level exam setter in the olden days when A Levels were the ‘gold standard’ of educational echievement?

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago
Reply to  Maverick

The only route out of this is mass non-compliance. Every act of defiance is a victory. Each act of non-compliance potentially encourages others. It is not predictable, but any one of those acts could inspire a mass revolt, much like Rosa Parks’ act of defiance on a bus inspired the civil rights movement.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

I agree.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

No Steve haven’t you heard? It will be resolved by us all writing to our MPs!!!

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Sampa
Sampa
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

And who will be the Rosa Parks of the LS movement? It’s got to be someone with the right “image”. Toby Young? Piers Corbyn?

Rosa Parks was the carefully selected public face of the protest, and was already a member of the civil rights movement when she was arrested. She wasn’t the first to defy to the segregation laws, Claudette Colvin was. Three other women were also arrested for the same offence before Rosa Parks, but they didn’t have the right “profile” to be the standard bearer the protest.

I agree that non-compliance is the way forward, but hiding your exempt lanyard in Tesco so you can have a pop at the minimum wage, zero-hour staff member at the entrance is not it. It might make you feel big and rebellious but your actions may have cost some poor twat their job. Writing to your MP is another pointless activity, they don’t have any say on anything, especially if it’s one of Starmer’s mob.

We are seeing some acts of non-compliance, those who refuse to close their business in that face of police intervention are in the forefront. Support them, in person if possible, financially if not. They are the folks who will lead the way out of the shitstorm.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago
Reply to  Sampa

I do not have an exempt lanyard nor do I have pops at minimum wage zero hour members of staff. I have no idea why you are making such accusations.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

No lanyard either.

Though I will take a pop if one is thrown at me first.

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Sampa
Sampa
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Sorry Steve, that was a general observation on the level of non-compliance and not a criticism of you in particular. Confronting minions won’t change anything, non-compliance has to get the attention of those in power.

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pvenkman
pvenkman
4 years ago
Reply to  Maverick

Seasonal variations mean cases dwindle to tiny amounts government can’t find any more cases people demand to be let out and come winter herd immunity is reached and it’s forgotten about.

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Jonny S.
Jonny S.
4 years ago
Reply to  Maverick

As with all who have gone before. Death.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Maverick

no

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alw
alw
4 years ago

“Authorities Probe Rare Blood Disorder Among Some COVID-19 Vaccine Recipients”https://www.theepochtimes.com/authorities-investigating-after-covid-19-vaccine-recipients-develop-rare-blood-disorder_3693312.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-02-11-4

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago

The article on obesity may be correct re. its role in morbidity.

But we could do without alternative health fascism, thank you very much.

The only value of the article is as yet another illustration of what not to do in public health

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Pray tell what do you think of Jonathan Swift’s A Modest Proposal?

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Proper satire. Private Eye wouldn’t touch it with a ten-foot pole if it were published today. And its influence lives on even today, as Matthew Brittain ATL may or may not be aware.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Totally agree. I suppose encouraging people not to be obese could be helpful, but as we’ve seen it’s a slippery slope into micromanaging people’s lives and worse.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

It’s satire. Designed to show the circular logic of zero Covid type fanaticism.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I think there’s debate to be had on causes of obesity, if it were a free & fair debate I suspect we’d find its what people eat, not how much.

Processed food high in carbs & sugar! Is the number one cause & yet liberal lefties continue to push this vegetarian nonsense only promoting corporate profit.

Grass seed isn’t a biologically appropriate diet. Throughout our evolution vegetables only made a small part of our diet.

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bluemoon
bluemoon
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

That last assertion isn’t true – our nearest relatives in the animal kingdom are vegetarians.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

Did they invent fire & hunt woolly mammoth? You have heard of evolution? And do you know Chimps hunt monkeys, eat insects & eggs, some even hunt small mammals with weapons, spears to impale rodents etc in holes. Chimps have even been known to catch & eat human babies. Baboons hunt & are effective scavengers of carcases, baboons are omnivores. Our evolution is probably more like that of baboons than any other species. Gorilla essentially eat herbs.

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kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

The human gut is much shorter than the chimp. If we ate our food raw we would starve in six months. We have an “external stomach” the cooking pot!
Ever since we became human, however that occurred, we have been dependent on technology to survive.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

Yep its called evolution. Its why we invented fire & ground roots, but humans are quite capable of digesting raw meat (cant say the same for grains) , highly likely cooking meat helped increase available resources by killing pathogens in rancid meat.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

What, these nearest relatives?

A surprise: Bonobos eat and share meat at rates similar to chimpanzees

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

In evolutionary terms its irrelevant what or who our closest relatives are anyway, that’s the function of evolution to exploit new niches of a changing environment. Homo sapiens ecological success would have been impossible, if we didn’t evolve to eat meat. We may have started off eating leaves but we’ve travelled along way since we lived in trees.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I’ve never lived in trees. Is there proof any of my ancestors did ?

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bluemoon
bluemoon
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Orang utans and gorillas.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  bluemoon

What about them?

Are you disputing humans eat meat?

When did we first start eating grass seed? There’s little nutrion in wheat.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

“liberal lefties …”

Do leave your obsessions behind. They just get tediously in the way of serious debate.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Of course comrade, you’d know all about that.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Play nicely children!

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

The time for nice has past, the leftist, neo-liberal puppets are destroying us & our culture, it may already to late.

The naive belief that politics & modern life can be separated is delusional or dishonest but a typical tactic of socialists to dismiss opposing opinions.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I agree I was joking.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

obesity is a metabolic disease – contrary to widespread opinion it’s not ‘a lifestyle choice’ ; and yes, it is a metabolic disease which is essentially caused by ingesting ‘poison’ – foods that the obese person’s body was not designed to process, and can not handle, and therefore cause it to malfunction, and become sick. People who are not obese are in many cases simply luckier: they handle this poison better, it does not affect them in the same way. The good news is that obesity can be managed, brought under control, but the bad news is, it’s far from easy or pain free, and requires a lifetime of constant vigilance.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

Whilst that maybe true – for some
Portion control is also an issue – for some

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

Its called agro-chem corporate profit & globalism. The simple fact is self indulgent comfortable lifestyles with an overabundance of high carb, high sugar processed food are to blame & some people aren’t as naturally (genetically) disciplined as others.. There are plenty of unhealthy skinny people, i don’t automatically buy into the liberal left corporate scienctism of fat bad. Its mostly about what not how much that causes poor health.

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mj
mj
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

you telling me that Barry Pieface doesnt have a good diet????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkoE8x7Gdbw

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PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago

We’re all vaccinated. Does that mean all our freedoms are restored? Of course not.

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

You won’t be getting those back I am afraid. We are now living in a totalitarian dictatorship. Better get used to it and forget about holidays, seeing friends or having any enjoyment. Trying to plan any of those things is now as futile as planning a trip to Jupiter.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

Sadly Smithey I think you are right. The sheep think otherwise though…they think one more heave together and we are back to freedom!

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

forget about holidays, seeing friends or having any enjoyment. 

You have stopped seeing friends and enjoying life ? Seriously ?

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alw
alw
4 years ago

‘Right from the start, the “stay home, protect NHS, save lives” messaging was completely drilled into the minds of the UK population,’ he said. ‘Britons have been terrified by what I can only describe as government propaganda. I think this collective fear, along with British politeness, is what’s preventing initiatives like this from taking off.
‘Britain has ceased to be a free country and we must do everything in our power to get our freedoms back. Is it right to comply with laws which are so damaging and wrong? If enough businesses are to take a stand and open, the rules would have to change, as they have done in other countries.’

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/its-high-time-europes-lockdown-rebellion-spread-to-britain/

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

But I am afraid 90% of the population do not want their freedoms. They have an infantile mentality and want the government to look after them and do their thinking for them. Most people are content to live like an animal in a zoo, looked after but not free.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

Nothing like 90% I am 100% sure of that. A substantial minority are as you describe but many others believed the vaccine would get us out of this and will be furious when it doesn’t. We have to hope that fury is turned in the right direction.

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I hope you are correct but my worry is they will all swallow whatever excuse the government comes up with for keeping us locked up.

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I get the impression that many would like to rebel but are either too afraid of the peer pressure or don’t know how to rebel.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

What is this peer pressure? Maybe I am strange but have never cared a jot what my peers think…I make up my own mind and to hell with them if they cant handle it. Maybe thats why we are on this site and most people are not.

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

You are in a minority then. Most people are terrified of not fitting in so go along with whatever their peers think/do, just like sheep really.

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

Just like in all other totalitarian regimes throughout history.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

That is my hope. So many have gone along with the covid jab because they thought it would free us from this nightmare, when they learn it was for all for nothing that just might light the blue paper. We can only hope!

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

No!

This is SICK and you are JUST AS BAD AS THEM.

CHILDREN MUST BE PREVENTED FROM TAKING THIS EXPERIMENTAL GENE THERAPY.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I am afraid they will simply blame those who refused it.

Unless you intend to take the experimental gene therapy.

The most important moral task now is to make sure it is NEVER mandatory for children.

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

Wow what a great way of putting it! Wish I had thought of that…hope you dont mind me using that one with the sheep.

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

Please do. If it helps to bring just one person round then I will be glad to have helped.

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PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago

The Government promises to lie to you. That’s the truth.

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Less government
Less government
4 years ago

Great article by the undergraduate mathematician, extremely well written. ICL SAGE members are clearly doing far more harm than good, and our government is too feeble and too naive to realise it.

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Bruce Reynolds
Bruce Reynolds
4 years ago
Reply to  Less government

They realise it, everything is going to plan..

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alw
alw
4 years ago

“Ten days ago, I was expelled from my Chambers after 30 years of unblemished practice at the Bar. My expulsion shows that it is now impossible to practise as a barrister whilst expressing conservative and populist opinions. If you are content with this state of affairs then the public should know that the Bar has become a profession for those who either hold left-wing politics or who do not publicly challenge them. If, on the other hand, you believe there is a place at the Bar for those who are prepared to challenge Guardian-reading liberals, then I look forward to receiving your response to this letter.”

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/sacked-barrister-is-the-bar-a-left-wing-club/

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

Yet more proof that the hard left have infiltrated the nations institutions and gained power by stealth. We have to accept that we are now living in a totalitarian state akin to 20th century East Germany.

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

Irrespective of whether we have a so called conservative party elected, this is the far left operating within so many organisations. If you look at the last couple of years brexit was voted for, Trump was elected, the tories won another election and more centre right parties gained traction in many countries, this went against all the left woke narrative on social media and in the MSM. So instead of using democracy to win they have just decided to change things and over ride democracy. Facism and communism form a circle eventually and become the same thing, an elite ruling the little people and the removal of liberty and free speech.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

Exclusion from legal practice for offending woke leftist opinion, banks refusing basic services to Gab for offending woke leftist opinion, Amazon web services denying basic server provision to Parler for offending woke leftist opinion.

Core establishment institutions and the very biggest of corporate big money operating to enforce an explicitly left-wing partisan political agenda.

“we have to turn down the capability of these conservative influencers to reach these huge audiences”

Yet liars and delusionals still try to claim there’s some kind of “right wing” elite that’s meaningfully in charge!

Bear this in mind, the next time one of the liars here pretends it’s a “right wing” agenda that’s running the show.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Neo Liberalism isn’t Left wing per say
They just think they are

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dhid
dhid
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

That is profoundly disturbing.

If the legal profession follows the general state of infestation by the intolerant left everywhere else in important areas of life, we really are screwed.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  dhid

If they keep pushing and suppressing legal avenues for the expression of dissent, the only way out will be violence. And of course, that’s what they are preparing for in the US with plans for a new “war on terror” targeting “white supremacists” [dissenters from pc dogma], “bigots” [conservatives], and “religious fanatics” [Christians].

The useful idiots on the left just want to silence opinions they hate. The hardliners on the left want to provoke violence so that they can have a real crackdown and bring to bear all the resources of the security state against their political enemies.

That way lies reeducation camps and civil war. It’s by no means the implausibly remote possibility it once was.

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dhid
dhid
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The current state of affairs is certainly becoming increasingly disturbing, however I try to look at them.

The present incumbent of the White House is a big concern.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  dhid

Though not particularly for himself, but for the attitudes and people surrounding him. He’s just a corrupt old fart who will most likely be fairly quickly sidelined.

The really significant thing is the anti-democratic attitude of the left elites as it was displayed in their response to the backlash against their policies, that manifested in support for Donald Trump. VDH summed it up as well as I’ve seen it put recently:

“It’s tragic that this country is at this place right now, because it didn’t have to be this way. They could have said Donald Trump represented a lost constituency that … globalised culture had ignored in a very amoral fashion and that was an understandable pushback, but the way to beat Donald Trump is to appeal to his voters in the way that the Democratic Party used to do, and win them back. They didn’t do that. They didn’t do that because they wanted open borders, and they’re tribalists that believe in identity politics, and they don’t care about people of the working class any more, and they feel that their money and their power and their titles and their degrees have allowed them to be an unquestioned elite. Sort of Platonic Guardians that we … don’t dare question.”

https://youtu.be/K7b-HT3DLh0list=PLKDm1nJ92oeuZAAP9kTW2bOOIiIGrTndT

The leftists poohpoohed the idea of a backlash, until it arrived in the form of Trump, then instead of learning from it they went hysterical and used every dirty, big money trick in the book to overturn it, and doubled down on imposing their agenda by force.

As a result, there will be another backlash, and the longer and harder they suppress it, the more devastating it will be.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The people who prioritised the 2nd Amendment were Divinely inspired.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

If it comes to that, it will save them a lot of time and blood of martyrs that we will,have to expend to catch up with them.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I’m an advocate of facilitating martyrdom on the other side. 🙂 But yes, agreed.

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pvenkman
pvenkman
4 years ago

positive tests and cases are falling and the government seems to get only more negative.

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Mike
Mike
4 years ago
Reply to  pvenkman

They can’t allow the fear to subside before the sheep have had the jab…

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike

I think it’s worse than that. I think at last count 12 million had been jabbed, possibly more now. If they wanted a way out they would have taken it, but they are either in grip of SAGE or Dr No or their own power crazed madness. I think we have to assume there’s no way this is going to end unless the people rebel en masse.

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pvenkman
pvenkman
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

A part of me wonders if that’s the only way out for the government mass rebellion like Italy. Otherwise the vocal minority will be screaming about how they are murders

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  pvenkman

No, I think they have easily enough control of the narrative to declare victory under cover of the vaccine, use LFTs, reduce PCR cycles

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike

This particular 🐑 isn’t having the jab.

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Will
Will
4 years ago
Reply to  pvenkman

And lockdown has the square root of FA to do with it. I drove past a primary school yesterday afternoon, it was so busy the lollipop man was seeing all the kids across the road.

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mikewaite
mikewaite
4 years ago

“Whan that Aprill with his shoures soote
The droghte of March hath perced to the roote,
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Thanne longen folk to goon on pilgrimages, “
A modern version of Chaucer’s pilgrims are the attendees at academic conferences opening up as soon as the sidewalks in US cities are free of snow.
Hundreds of conferences in cities across the Northern Hemisphere, attended by folk from nervous PhDs with their first presentations to grey haired professors emeritus .
How will the vaccine passport affect them ?
Will their joint academic influence change political minds here and in Europe ,North America and the Far East , the latter being a major player in academic conferences nowadays.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Some one who usually talks sense Neil Oliver: Leadership has ‘callous disregard’ for individual livelihoods

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Does he still think it is all just one big mistake?

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  jb12

Give me a break, I said usually. He’s not perfect i know but who is?

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I only asked you a question. He is a rational, seemingly benevolent person, but if he thinks it is all a big mistake, he is part of the problem.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  jb12

I’m not here to defend anyone, I have no answer for you, listen & make up your own mind or not.

Last edited 4 years ago by Anti_socialist
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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Sure. You stated he makes ‘sense’. But yeah, ok then.

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kate
kate
4 years ago

More Pharma censorship of honest fair debate. Robert Kennedy has been deplatformed from Instagram.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/robert-kenney-jr-instagram-removal-account/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=f76ab033-3a3d-469e-83f2-80c463ef3a5d

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago

Fund is up to £17k. Last I heard (yesterday), they’d been to court to try to overturn the 48 hours closure order and lost, and they are planning to reopen next week.

Presumably making plans for how to deal with the inevitable repeated closure orders and harassment.

I’ll be spending money in their cafe any chance I get, and leaving good tips, though it’s 30-odd miles away so I can’t be there every day. Miriam and Alan of this parish have also said they are up for dropping in there.

We’ll do what we can.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Remember I’m not on the spot and have no direct link,so there’s no guarantee my info’s up to date. That’s just the last I heard about it.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Don’t expect any justice in this country. The only way we can make a change is by mass rebellion, we have the numbers we just need to orchestrate ourselves.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

I agree with the former. On the latter (having the numbers), that remains to be seen.

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Aslangeo
Aslangeo
4 years ago

This come in my you tube feed – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aKhO3e97ss

Nicola Turdgeon jealous of DUP from 2017

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Aslangeo

She’s jealous of Arlene’s looks and fashion sense

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Ewan Duffy
Ewan Duffy
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

That is in the same league as two bald men fighting over a comb.

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago

Imagine a botanist who claims to have discovered a new vaiety of peony.

…and yet it has nothing to distinguish it from other peonies.

So, he develops a PCR ‘test’, which which he then claims shows him that there is a certain speck of a particular dust, which only settles on the kind of peony, which he ahs discovered.

But investigators find the dust on pawpaw fruit and on goats.

Other botanists wonder why the total number of peonies in the park is the same as in every year, despite the claim that the new variety in only additional to all of the previous varieties.

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago

Wisconsin resident doctor has miscarriage days after COVID “vaccine”
The Dr. Sara Beltrán Ponce public miscarriage

Dr. Michael Yeadon is the former Vice President and Chief Scientific Advisor at Pfizer. He and Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg filed a petition with the European Medicines Agency on December 1, 2020. The petition asks the agency to halt trials for the Pfizer BioNTech BNT162b shot and all other mRNA trials until study designs conform with more universal methods.

One of their concerns involves Syncytin-1. The protein is responsible for placenta development during pregnancy.

Placentas provide oxygen and food to fetuses. They also eliminate waste from the baby. Syncytin-1 is “also found in homologous form in the spike proteins of SARS viruses,” according to the petition. The mRNA shots would thus inhibit or eliminate Syncytin-1, and prevent or obstruct pregnancy.

Further, according to Section 10.4.2 of the Pfizer BioNTech trial protocol, pregnant women or women who may become pregnant should not take the mRNA shots. Section 10.4.1 also warns men taking the mRNA shots to “be abstinent from heterosexual intercourse” and to not donate sperm.

Despite all these clear warnings, people are lining up and getting these shots to conform with social media and mainstream media norms. Medical professionals are not immune to said social pressures.

https://thecovidblog.com/2021/02/07/sara-beltran-ponce-wisconsin-resident-doctor-has-miscarriage-days-after-covid-vaccine/

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

Oh no its not (its working for me) are you being firewalled?

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

Try Dissenter/DuckDuckGo, working here too.

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago

I have posted this before but the idea of a vaccine passport was being discussed in 2018, how convenient how the dates fit.

https://ec.europa.eu/health/sites/health/files/vaccination/docs/2019-2022_roadmap_en.pdf

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Dodderydude
Dodderydude
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

I am grateful to you, C. I have been trying to find this document for months! I remember looking at it about nine months ago when a number of statistics jumped out at me.

GPs in all EU Member States were asked to complete a questionnaire regarding their personal perception of the safety of vaccines, generic and specific. The results are summarised within the document you have linked to. This is the specific section that was of interest to me in the context of ‘SARS CoV2’.

https://ec.europa.eu/health/sites/health/files/vaccination/docs/2018_vaccine_confidence_en.pdf

Page 11 is a table of flu vaccine uptake for over 65s in EU countries. It is notable that the UK tops the list percentage wise, and there does seem to be a distinct correlation between flu vaccine uptake being highest in the countries that are reporting the most covid deaths.

GPs were asked about their confidence in the safety of the seasonal flu vaccine (page 17). The UK had the highest confidence at 85.4%. Conversely France was 51.8%. A significant difference.

GPs were also asked about confidence in the safety of vaccines generally (page 18). The UK was fifth highest at 89.9%. Out of 28 countries France was 26th at 69.9% and Bulgaria was lowest at 66.3%.

These opinions are based on GPs’ knowledge of existing vaccines, many of which have been in use for decades. It would be interesting to know their corresponding views on the current experimental vaccines.

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  Dodderydude

I downloaded the pdf what seems like an eternity ago, presuming it was unlikely to come to anything or it would be deleted, how wrong was I!

I do not believe in coincidences. It is all written as though it is such a simple process, nowhere does it mention if there will be any pushback. I doubt many people in the EU are even aware of the document, considering we were part of the EU when it all was starting to be discussed.

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DThom
DThom
4 years ago

We suspect that the dictator is being dictated to by a ‘higher’ power but surely the other 649 of them can do some critical thinking? They can’t all be ‘in on it’?

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  DThom

Indeed not

Some probably know it’s bollocks but fear for their jobs or have ambition

Some e.g. Labour are using it for political ends

Some just believe the propaganda – I don’t think there’s much reason to suppose the average MP is somehow immune from being brainwashed or that they have better critical thinking skills than the average person

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Dodderydude
Dodderydude
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

As Vernon Coleman pointed out the other day, you have to ask what sort of ‘grey matter’ David Lammy has as just one example. In a celebrity quiz show (I think from my own memory it may have been Mastermind) he was asked the following:

Q: Surname of famous physicists Marie and Pierre who researched radioactivity?
A: Antoinette
Q: Famous historical prison in Paris….?
A: Versailles
Q: Who acceded to the British throne after Henry VIII?
A: Henry VII

Is it any wonder the country is in the state it is?

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Basics
Basics
4 years ago
Reply to  Dodderydude

You deserve a seat on the Krypton Factor with Gordon Burns for remembering all that jibberish! Well done! Are you good at obstacle courses too?

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Dodderydude
Dodderydude
4 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Simultaneously! 🙂

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Dodderydude

My daughters, who mercifully are not as far-gone as many of their generation, counter this when I draw it to their attention by saying ah yes, but he got into Harvard, didn’t he? Hmm…..conceivably an adverse comment on Harvard’s admission criteria? No, okay then……

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago
Reply to  Dodderydude

One of our top barristers/baristas, astonishing, the few I have know have been super smart.

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mj
mj
4 years ago
Reply to  Dodderydude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsR4Nx-ELgc

he got 8 on his specialist (mohammed ali) and 5 on gk. And in 2014 the questions were harder as like most quizzes in recent year it has been dumbed down

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Old Bill
Old Bill
4 years ago
Reply to  Dodderydude

But that was from a long time ago, the ‘rewoked’ (sic) questions are:

Q: Surname of famous scientist that beat coronavirus?
A: Ferguson
Q: Famous historical prison in UK?
A: All of it.
Q: Who acceded to the British throne after Boris Johnson?
A: Nobody.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

If Labour are using it for political ends, they are stupid, because I don’t think there will be any real advantage in time to come in a line of “lockdown harder, harder!”

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago
Reply to  DThom

Anyone who has ever worked in a large organization at a lower level particularly, knows that one of the most important skills , if you want to survive within the organization, is to learn to recognize which way the wind is blowing..

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  DThom

Suspect the dictator isn’t in on it, to be a dictator you have to be willing to be a leader. I’ve long been suspicious of his girlfriends role & who her paymasters are. Follow the money.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

A sleeper?

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Honey trap!

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Honey trap in what sense? Come on, nobody cares about adultery anymore.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

In the sense of a handler/controller/minder.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Feminine charms are a well known de Pfeffel weakness.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I honestly wouldn’t rule that possibility out.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Dermot McClatchey

That might explain Chomsky’s disgusting silence as he has a young wife telling him what to do.

Women have a lot to answer for with this.

Mothers have shown themselves to be sadists.

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pvenkman
pvenkman
4 years ago
Reply to  DThom

Many of the other 649 are merely the first level of the useful idiots I suspect at least 600 of them are as out of the loop as the rest of us

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  DThom

Definitely coerced, wonder if blackmail?

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago

At least 36 people develop blood disorder and a doctor DIES after receiving mRNA vaccines (Pfizer or Moderna COVID vaccines) – as experts probe potential link between shots and the rare condition

At least 36 cases of thrombocytopenia after COVID-19 vaccination have been reported in the US 

One person, a previously healthy Miami doctor aged 56, died of the blood disorder which causes platelet counts to drop, preventing blood from clottinng. Miami obstetrician Dr Gregory Michael, died after thrombocytopenia caused his platelets to drop to virtually zero. He was just 56 and died of a brain hemorrhage just 16 days after receiving Pfizer‘s shot. 

Thrombocytopenia has occurred after other shots, but it is exceedingly rare and not yet clear whether vaccines could cause it 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9241027/36-people-developed-rare-blood-disorder-covid-vaccination.html

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago

This government are so crooked they couldn’t lie straight in bed.

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Sceptical Steve
Sceptical Steve
4 years ago

This has so much to do with the UK government not giving proper guidance on the trade deal that it was doing. (As various commentators said at the time, 95% of the deal was done and dusted by the middle fo 2020. The rest was just political theatre.) In a practical sense, I expect that the ultimate solution will have to be for small UK exporters to abandon the idea of point to point delivery and route items through EU-based wholesalers.

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nickbowes
nickbowes
4 years ago

Look East dear friends, that is where freedom now lies.

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Andrew K
Andrew K
4 years ago
Reply to  nickbowes

I’m wondering if George Orwell had a time machine or met somebody who had traveled back in time. I say this as the west were at war with the east in 1984 so as to get them to toe the line.

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swedenborg
swedenborg
4 years ago

This shows how difficult to think that travel restrictions can stop a respiratory virus.Even a month before the first report in NYC there were multiple sporadic cases pf C-19.Why did it kick only off 1 month later? No herd immunity? Changes in the innate immunity? Favourable climatic conditions? Anybody who think there is an easy answer is misguided.New article.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.08.21251303v1.full.pdf

Before the Surge: Molecular Evidence of SARS-CoV-2 in New York City Prior to the First Report

“Additionally, we detected SARS-CoV-2 RNA in pooled specimens collected in the week ending 25 January 2020, indicating that SARS-CoV-2 caused sporadic infections in NYC a full month before the first officially documented case.”
 

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

Of course, the WHO planning document in 2019 dismissed travel restriction – along with lockdowns, universal test and trace and general masking.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

It is pretty obvious now that they are intent on Genocide

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

In terms of its scope this is the greatest Crime Against Humanity.

The major moral issue of our lifetimes.

Where is Chomsky? Where are all the moral figures.

Answer: they were only ever anti-American, NEVER pro-liberty and human dignity. Shame on them. I SPIT on them.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Chomsky has either lost the plot in his extreme old age or, as you suggest, was always merely anti- American. He critiques the Covid shitshow as yet another example of the failure of neolib capitalism, and has described Trump as the worst criminal in history. Ah, well- don’t follow leaders (watch the parking meters).

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago

Voluntary informed consent is a fundamental of professional health ethics.

Ethics are rules that exist for the difficult circumstances. Rules are not necessary when the right thing is obvious and easy. The reason for ethical rules is precisely for those situations where the right course of action is unclear and/or difficult.

The coronavirus madness has tested the health care professionals. In order to be admitted to a hospital patients are required to have a test for the virus. If they refuse, they will be denied treatment. This violates the ethical requirement of voluntary informed consent. Doctors and nurses and others have been going along with this ethical breach for months. And because they have been doing it, they have persuaded themselves that the difficult circumstances justify their behaviour.

Months of violating the ethic of voluntary informed consent in respect of the test has prepared the way for the violation of the ethic in respect of the so called vaccines. Health care professionals have persuaded themselves that telling patients that the products are vaccines, are safe, are effective (all at best misleading) is done with apparent sincerity. Persuading patients (an obvious form of pressure) is done with apparent good faith on the rationale that it is necessary given the coronavirus pandemic – an obvious ends justifies means rationale, which is precisely what the ethical duty is designed to make obviously illegitimate.

Health care professionals have shown their (collective) commitment to their ethics is superficial, mere lip service, empty words.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

“In order to be admitted to a hospital patients are required to have a test for the virus.”

Unlike the government, let’s keep accurate : this is not universally the case.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Perhaps you would like to share the examples you know of doctors and nurses etc refusing to go along with the rule that all patients admitted to hospital have to be tested for the virus? Or the doctors etc who are informing patients that the so called vaccines are not vaccines, have not completed trials and therefore they are not known to be either safe or effective?

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
4 years ago

Does anybody know if discarded face masks are classed as biological hazardous waste?

I ask as some of the village do-gooders are proposing a litter pick, “to keep the community sprite alive”. All very noble but I think I may piss on their parade by asking what are they going to do about disposing of the bio-hazard waste?

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Andy Riley
Andy Riley
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

Well, if they work by trapping contaminated particles from infected people, as we are informed by the pro mask folk, then they must be a bio hazard.
Here’s an opinion from a consultant anesthetist:
https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m2012

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

At my ex workplace we put them into a separate bin, which got emptied once a week, the bag quarantined for 2 days before putting it into general rubbish to be burned in the county facility.
Does that make it bio-hazard waste/ I do not think so.
Any surgical masks found on the floor went into the general bin.
As usual, it does not make sense.
In your case I would say as they were in the fresh air and rained on, they are not a hazard.

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

Yes it is hazardous waste.

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mj
mj
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

they wont be a hazard but best to wind them up and say they are toxic and whoever picks them up must wear biohazard suits

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  mj

Whoever picks them will need to self-isolate for 10 days. You will come and wave at them through their window as long as it is closed.

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kate
kate
4 years ago

Just reposting this from Pebbles here, to keep the subject topical.

Please can everyone send the latest UK Medical Freedom Alliance Brief about vaccines to their MPs, and also to medical correspondents in the media… you can find it on their website in pdf form. It is pushing for an enquiry regarding the side effects. Also distribute to others who are thinking of getting vaccinated. Thank you.

My answer

I have done this and am very glad I did. I also sent it to my local councillor who said he has forwarded it to the local Director of Public Health
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/directors-of-public-health-in-england–2

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/

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kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5fa5866942937a4d73918723/601ffc3e56a64132caa3f42f_Open_Letter_from_the_UKMFA_Vaccine_Deaths_Care%20Homes.pdf

Here is the paper from the UK Medical freedom alliance.

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
4 years ago

Van Tam says that international freedom of movement won’t be possible until the entire world has been innoculated.

Let’s do the maths shall we. Even if only about half get inniculated, that is close to 4 billion people. Each requires two doses annually and lets say for example the average cost is $15 a shot.

That would be $120 BILLION that world leaders would be handing over to the Pharma giants annually, for something that probably costs dime to manufacture.

That is what is driving this whole shit show.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

And then we need to look at the shares in pharma and who have them

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concrete68
concrete68
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Assuming from comments here it’s Jeremy Corbyn and extinction rebellion?

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

Info from the manufacturers:

stops neither ‘infection’ nor ‘transmission’

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Ewan Duffy
Ewan Duffy
4 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

A logical follow on from masks sold from boxes on which the manufacturers note that they will not stop COVID19 infection.

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alw
alw
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

Damnation and Witless have chosen to ignore the oath “Do No Harm.
Why haven’t they been struck off by the GMC?

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Basics
Basics
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

Papa New Guinea and Amazonian tribes ignored I presume. Do these people have UN special human relic status which keeps circulating humans from making contact?

I recall a BBC ‘adventure’ muppet showing up in a jungle to try and make contact with a ‘lost’ tribe.

One of the tribe chaps appeared out of the under growth with an angular stick for ramming home decisions. The weapon was operated in a feorboding manner.

The BBC muppet even then did not voice recognition of his own stupidity crashing through the jungle and showing up at a tribe who needed nothing and wanted nothing. He did scarper sharpish – bless them they are stupid and don’t know I am a BBC hero.

The encounter stays in my mind because it was a moment of true human defence. This is what we ought to be doing, showing the muppets the strength of our intent as they pose a clear and present danger to our families and ourselves.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Watched an excellent film of an explorer returning to make contact with PNG hill tribe after many years. They rushed out of the bush shaking their spears and clubs then collapsed in laughter at the excellent trolling.

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Sampa
Sampa
4 years ago
Reply to  Basics

You’re a bit behind the times. The Amazonian tribes all have top-end phones, cable TV and wi-fi, and at least when the cameras are on them they are muzzled up too. They are also one of the priority vaccination groups here in Brazil, at least they were with that last supreme court ruling but that could change depending on which way the wind blows.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

I think at the last count, Van Tam had £600,000 invested in Pharma shares.

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String
String
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Yes I think so. that we know about. I suspect there’s more where that came from, or did he really sell himself so cheap?

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Caramel
Caramel
4 years ago

So ‘snap lockdown’ for Victoria. 5 days or whatever. It’s going to be the brutal one.

I was in my friend’s car today and the radio was playing. Kim Jong-Dan’s voice was on so I put my hands over my ears as I can’t bear to hear him speak. According to said friend, I had to ‘deal with it’. I was forced to live through the traumatic lockdown here and so why would I want to listen to him. I’ve heard his voice only a handful of times but it stresses me out. Said friend dismisses it all as ‘opposition politician might not have handled it well ‘.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Caramel

How can you be a friend of a child hurting lockdown-loving scumball?

DUMP THEM!

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Caramel
Caramel
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

They’re all brainwashed here.

Am wfh and had a meeting the other day with someone who ended the meeting with ‘stay safe’.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

I asked a masked neighbour, how am I still alive having never worn a mask, she said she has protected me with her mask. Of course the question, ‘so it only works one way and how does it get through yours for you to stop it getting to me?!’ gets a blank dead stare.

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HelzBelz
HelzBelz
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

This just shows the level of stupidity to which the majority have sunk. Or maybe they were already there – we just didn’t notice!

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Sam Vimes
Sam Vimes
4 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

That’s it. They were always that thick, this has just shown it up, as Annie posted, yesterday.

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Mike
Mike
4 years ago
Reply to  Sam Vimes

Correct, it has highlighted peoples true characters, previously hidden by societal niceties.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

It’s no good just dismissing this as ‘stupidity’.

Although people generally are poor at information and risk assessment’s, it’s much more sinister than that.

Where are people to get there reference points with such blatant propaganda and deliberate misinformation?

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

If she thinks she has Covid why is she out talking to people?

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago

Interesting news re jabs from Lower Saxony, Germany, this morning.

BionTech/Pfizer recommend 30mg, when 10mg showed effective.

A vile holds 5 jabs of 30mg. Germany has already done 6 jabs per vile, Lower Saxony will now do 7 so they can get more people vaccinated.

It will also mean the risk of side effects is less.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

Looks like someone didn’t get the memo that they are supposed to be spending as much money as possible. Economising on vaccine doses just won’t do.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

They’re vial things, those ‘vaccines’ …

🙂

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

Street level drug dealers often resort to ‘cutting’ the product

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Nobody2021
Nobody2021
4 years ago

Same story, 2 different perspectives. One is a cheerleader for zero covid and thinks this is a rational way to act. The other seems like a regular human being to me. I wonder what people will think of the strategy if/when there are multiple outbreaks at the same time.

Victoria to enter lockdown with fans barred from Australian Open

The Australian state of Victoria will enter lockdown for a third time in a bid to suppress an outbreak of the UK strain of coronavirus.

Christina Pagel
@chrischirp

A suppression strategy looks like Australia – when there is an outbreak you stamp down on it hard but fast to allow quick return to normal life. this outbreak was linked to a quarantine worker getting sick. And Aus have stricter rules than us!

Kieron
@Sewn_apart

Perhaps this might show the lockdown zealots that there is a difference between free from, and free to. And being free from viruses isn’t a realistic goal if we want a life where we are free to do the things that make being alive worthwhile

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
4 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

This is my hope for NZ and Aus, that as their winter approaches they will be in so many snap lockdowns in so many different places that it will become untenable and zero covid will be put in the bin where it belongs.

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frankfrankly
frankfrankly
4 years ago

It’s always a mistake to prepare for the last war but the next looks like it will strongly be a continuation of the present one. The Govt. will have to account for failures on ppe and testing but the dominant meme is going to be “We should have locked down sooner”-esp. from Prof. Ferguson & Owen Jones. This will be used as an excuse to always lock down or impose tiers in future, no matter the NHS capacity or how dangerous or not new variants are. It is this narrative which we must destroy. Undermining the model and the modellers must be a crucial part of this as today’s article shows-‘Maths student shows up professor’ would be a good headline.

Meanwhile we need to keep up the pressure on MP’s as they are the ones who can prevent all this happening again; and be careful to keep a record of what they have said. In future, some of them may not like to be reminded of it!

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Achilles
Achilles
4 years ago
Reply to  frankfrankly

We’ve undermined the modelling many times over. People aren’t interested, it’s too technical. Highlighting the human cost of lockdown, the duplicity of government, the long-term future and the impoverishment of the “New Normal” are the only places we can gain traction. People act emotionally and then justify it logically afterwards. We can only trump emotion with emotion.

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Mike
Mike
4 years ago
Reply to  Achilles

I would argue that mocking is the way to go. From my interactions with covid zombies the only thing that has even got them to consider any information in a critical manor has been making them laugh at parts of the scenario we are in..

I’ve tried facts, evidence, reason, graphs, tables, YouTube videos etc and they have remained indifferent. Make a joke of parts of the scenario we are in which sneaks in a few nuggets of truth and they have re-acted in a sceptical manor…one caveat…don’t attempt on a zealot, you’ll be accused of being a heartless b@stard.

Andrew Lawrence on YouTube has been quite useful for point out the stupidity without scaring them off..

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frankfrankly
frankfrankly
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike

I don’t disagree with any of these comments but the inevitable enquiry can’t be allowed to establish a dangerous theme without challenge.Mockery, esp. of masking is good. The problem is that fanatics react differently and damagingly to normal people.

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alw
alw
4 years ago
Reply to  frankfrankly

As I have noted previously this is now World War 3. People versus the political elite and technocrats. We also need to remind all sitting MP’s whatever the party that there is now no longer such a thing as a safe seat

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leicestersq
leicestersq
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

Amazing how during this terrible pandemic, there hasnt been one single by-election. How do so many MPs all manage to stay alive?

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godowneasy
godowneasy
4 years ago

Irish Health Chief says frontline health workers who refuse vaccination will be “removed” from frontline roles. i.e. it’s mandatory.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/healthcare-workers-who-refuse-vaccination-can-be-removed-says-hse-chief-1.4482365

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  godowneasy

Then its time people banded together to fight back.

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  godowneasy

Great. The Irish health system will be on its knees in days

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  godowneasy

Good luck filling those posts.

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Will
Will
4 years ago

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/569957?fbclid=IwAR2xao2TkjEBcT_63pUHfPrE2_X2Fne_1vyuwCrnCVghOVBYYYiSJh4tCoU

Petition to stop the imposition of identity cards, renamed as health passports.

Last edited 4 years ago by Will
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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

The non vaccinated are the new 1930’s German Jews

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

I’m waiting for yellow badge wearing to be made mandatory showing who the covid dissenters are.

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Alan P
Alan P
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

We already have a system. Believers wear face masks, dissenters are coming under pressure to display exemption badges or lanyards.

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Ganjan21
Ganjan21
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

My hippy commune idea for us type of folk is becoming more and more realistic.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Ganjan21

The won’t allow it. The last thing they will want are visible groups of the unvaccinated who are stubbornly refusing to die, while the vaxxed zombies are dropping like flies. The vaccine refuseniks are the worst enemy of those pushing the corona depopulation scam and as such they will be relentlessly hounded by government. Of course, the alternative is death by “vaccine,” so resistance is not optional.

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Basics
Basics
4 years ago
Reply to  Ganjan21

I don’t have the feet for sandals.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Basics

TMI.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Pobbles will not be discriminated against.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Ah well now you must be careful when making such comparisons because when you are famous enough to have your own page on Wikipedia they will be referred to, as below on Matt Le Tissier’s page

“In 2020, Le Tissier became an outspoken critic on the reaction to the COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom, with several tweets in which he criticised what he deemed to be an “overreaction” from the government and media, among others opposing lockdowns and mask orders. An image he posted on Twitter which implied a comparison between the Holocaust and having to wear masks during the pandemic was deleted.”

There’s a whole army of Wikipedia editors who must spend all their spare time digging “dirt” on anyone with heretical views and slipping them in, regardless of how important, relevant or balanced they are.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

There certainly is. The “Philip Cross” and “Slim Virgin” franchises come straight to mind.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Dermot McClatchey

I’d not heard of them. There are probably lots of others plus amateurs who hate anyone remotely conservative.

The longest paragraph in Lord Sumptions entry concerns his remarks about the value of life – so in his long career that’s the most important aspect? There are some rent-a-quotes attacking his views – they love a citation. One day when I have more time I will include something defending his views, from Toby or someone like that, and see how long it lasts.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Craig Murray’s blog has an interesting article- possibly two, not sure- on “Philip Cross”. The “Slim Virgin” operation is a spy-story in itself.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

If they deleted it then that is all you need to know

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

I expect he deleted it after getting attacked

He tweets less than he used to about covid now that the football season is underway but in general he has stuck to his guns despite the attacks

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

delete

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

The inmates of care homes. The majority have been killed off

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Dodderydude
Dodderydude
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Excellent article here about the latest case of censorship for speaking the truth.

https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/11/what-really-got-gina-carano-cancelled/

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Andrew K
Andrew K
4 years ago

There was a picture of a giant sign attached to the railings directly outside the cafe from teh local council saying that this cafe has been ordered to close under section blah blah blah. My first thoughts were the painting of star of David on jewish doors and businesses

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Message to Kate and Luc

You have done enough. Don’t put your family at risk. Don’t open again until the PIg Dictator has gone. Hopefully you have enough money now to get by until after the regime has fallen.

There is more than one way to skin a cat

If this is ever over I will visit and buy everyone in there a full Polish

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago

Toby posted this in June last year!

The Health Passport — A Green Light for Tyranny?
https://medium.com/@aarondavidsonn/the-health-passport-a-green-light-for-tyranny-545298e108d

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

A friend told me last year that COVID was short for:

CERTIFICATE OF VACCINATION ID



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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Wishful thinking
Cov is the common prefix of a coronovirus (as in Hcov-Oc43)

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

And yet vaccine IDs are being issued! Did anyone become hysterical about Influenza deaths? So whilst you may dismiss my comment what I say is still relevant. What is happening now has been in planning for a number of years.

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
4 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

Tyranny ! It is here now ! What can we do ??? Can Toby let Delingpole run this site ( with a disclaimer for himself) as a call to Arms , Dellers could be the Churchill for our times 😇

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

Has delingpole been suspended on utube?

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John
John
4 years ago

With regards to the critique of the Imperial model, here is a quote from Hope-Simpson in his book about Influenza:
“The most striking defect of the current concept of direct spread is its inability to explain a common feature of human epidemic influenza, namely the fact that it is a seasonal disease. This is so well known as to be taken for granted. Perhaps, for that very reason, it has tended to be forgotten that, as an aspect of influenza behavior, it needs to be explained by any valid concept of the epidemic process.”
He also considers the differences between the number and rate of infection based on latitude.
Perhaps Darth Ferguson should do some reading before unleashing his Death Star predictions.

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danny
danny
4 years ago

Following the ideology behind masks to the logical conclusion, shouldn’t people be forced to safely dispose of a mask as soon as they remove it, and then to replace it with a new vacuum sealed new mask, a few times a day?
Anything less is surely making them super spreaders?

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albert hall
albert hall
4 years ago
Reply to  danny

That’s beyond the intellect of most maskers. They’d sooner wave the filthy rag around to ensure the rest of us get a lungful of whatever they’re spreading and not just Covid. Then why not just drop it on the ground.

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Basics
Basics
4 years ago
Reply to  danny

Taken care of in part by the council here. Your waste, including used tissues they helpfully point out, is to be double bagged and left for 72 hours before disposal. This applies to those who have a positive pcr test. The council have spent thousands on that little campaign, posters applied to building works. Our council are clever, but the haven’t yet addressed the issue of biohazard facemask disposal. They will, they are brain boxes in our council.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Surprised there isn’t a separate light blue wheelie bin yet for face nappies. Binmen with good life insurance and in hazmat suits could collect it once a week.

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  danny

Indeed and that is what we need to tell the mask wearing people. Stop touching your mask. Now that you touched your mask, go and wash your hands, now put on a clean mask

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  danny

And there should be proper hazardous waste disposal points if the muzzles are THAT effective. They’re so contaminated by viral stuff AND bacteria (which we know is dangerous and never gets a mention).

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tony rattray
tony rattray
4 years ago

LAND OF THE ECONOMIC NUMPTY

Two of three BiFab yards bought out of administration – BBC News

The above story really does sum up the economic numpty-land of the so called scottish government. Remember, the future is about building back better (green)!

However, in the real world the scottish government / economy cannot even maintain a business that ought to boom under this future (off shore wind farms, etc.).

Instead it has been bailed out by an english based company with the current skeleton staff on holiday (sorry, lockdown furlough).

But as the ginger nut has decreed, we do have universal basic income also to look forward too….

Please sir, can I have some more…

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Nobody2021
Nobody2021
4 years ago
Reply to  tony rattray

Where’s the money for UBI going to come from?

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tony rattray
tony rattray
4 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

Nicola will sell her house as she really does care.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

I doubt they care, when has public debt & rising taxes ever bothered socialists?

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

We can hand in all the pots and pans we’ve been banging to be melted down to sell to CCP.

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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
4 years ago

First do no harm

Lockdown was a panic move by a weak leader for a virus that turned out to be not as deadly as the panic suggested – and without first checking what harm may be caused by the lockdown experiment.

For political reasons from then on it was required that the population believe;

the virus far more deadly than it turned out to be to justify the panic,
only lockdown can secure safety and reduces deaths to justify the panic,
only population vaccination can get the population into safety and out of lockdowns.

The Government have gone from a forgivable panic to crimes against the British people including mass murder simply to cover their arses

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Maverick
Maverick
4 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

Spot on!

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

To simplistic, the smoking gun was the sudden abandonment of decades of science from there, theres a chain of impossible coincidences, its much more than incompetence, that’s just an excuse used for denialists unwilling to acknowledge reality. The tories are doing what tories always do exploiting others to enrich themselves at everyone elses expense. Privatised profit & nationalised debt.

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Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Labour would have done exactly the same they are all the same bucket of shit.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago
Reply to  Jaguarpig

Sir Kneel demanding incarceration etc. harder and faster.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  Jaguarpig

Hear hear

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DeepBlueYonder
DeepBlueYonder
4 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

Professor Christopher Whitty, 10 October 2018:

“Although the first reaction is usually panic, epidemics should be addressed systematically. Panic kills. How to respond to any given new epidemic or pandemic depends on factors all of which are predictable as being important. These are: mortality/severity, available treatment, available vaccines, force of transmission and above all route of transmission.”

Source:
https://www.gresham.ac.uk/lectures-and-events/epidemics-pandemics-control
(at 50:14 onwards).

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

So true, those responsible for this must be brought to justice.

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Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

At the end of a rope

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Jaguarpig

Rope or firing squad.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

By face mask would be preferable.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

A brilliant CCP psyop to take back HK, Taiwan next no doubt. Our only hope against complete domination by CCP aided by their satrap in WH is collapse of CCP under the weight of its many internal contradictions (the collapsing birth rate in China not the least of them). Corrupt dictatorial regimes do collapse eventually (USSR) but it will be a close run thing this time round.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

Totally agree with all you say Major Panic.

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Caramel
Caramel
4 years ago

Reminder that the Plan B symposium starts soon. https://www.covidplanb.co.nz/symposium2021/

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Katabasis
Katabasis
4 years ago

In all honesty folks if they bring in both negative interest rates and soft coercion to take a vaccine whose safety I have every reason to question I’m going to consider my life effectively over.

Negative interest rates mean I won’t be able to protect myself by saving responsibly for lean times and possible gaps between contracts. Morally and emotionally I would never be able to live with myself if I gave into deeply questionable medical tyranny just to go to the gym, the pub or see family. We all know it won’t stop there either.

Prison or an early death would be preferable.

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Charlie Blue
Charlie Blue
4 years ago
Reply to  Katabasis

I understand how you feel – would be the same for me. But don’t give up yet (or ever). Not feeling too optimistic myself but let’s call their bluff before we wave the white flag.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Blue

I’m not waving a white flag .,.. ever!

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Katabasis

REVOLT!

REVOLT!

REVOLT!

WE MUST CHOOSE A DATE for PROTEST!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvFHRNGYfuo

Last edited 4 years ago by FedupofLies
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pub with no beer
pub with no beer
4 years ago
Reply to  Katabasis

yes, the same thoughts just crossed my mind, so going forward we will see the real heroes emerge to fight this, including myself. never give up . no surrender. we will find an alternative reality.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago
Reply to  Katabasis

Perhaps we’ll get hyper inflation and wealth taxes too just to add to the fun. Joked about spraying the lead internal ballast ingots in my little wooden boat gold to troll HMRC but I might be spraying gold ingots lead coloured now.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Katabasis

Buy gold and silver and keep it under the floorboards
This will also help to implode the fiat currency system
Only keep in a bank as much as you need for month to month bills

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Katabasis

Buy hard assets or just find a secure hiding place for the cash. It’s worth more under the mattress in a NIRP world. People will always take cash or barter.

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago

“We are in the typical context of a “self-fulfilling prophecy”, where, through neuro-immunological overresponses, physical immobilization, social isolation and socio-economic difficulties, the death toll gets maximized and the expected death prophecy confirmed.”

https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/12/lockdowns-are-a-self-fulfilling-prophecy/

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godowneasy
godowneasy
4 years ago

Israel marches forward to exclude the unvaccinated from society. At least they are being honest about it I suppose but do they realise what they are doing?. What I find amazing is that they are actually saying the vast majority of vaccinated Israelis are NOT sufficiently protected by the vaccine and that the minority who have refused the vaccine are a danger to their health system and society in general.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/government-plans-to-punish-businesses-that-serve-unvaccinated-customers-report/

Excerpts:
The Health Ministry is reportedly planning to clamp down on Israelis who refuse to vaccinate against the coronavirus and impose severe sanctions on businesses that accept unvaccinated customers and on individuals who forge a document that says they have been vaccinated.
According to a Channel 12 news report Thursday night, Health Minister Yuli Edelstein wants to encourage widespread vaccination by offering advantages to those who take the shot, and also by limiting the options of those who don’t.
“Whoever doesn’t vaccinate will only go out to supermarkets or pharmacies, while the vaccinated will go to stadiums and gyms,” Edelstein was quoted as saying.

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leicestersq
leicestersq
4 years ago
Reply to  godowneasy

Odd that Israel are so keen to breach the Nuremburg code. They want us to remember why it was introduced, dont they know why it was created?

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  leicestersq

I agree 100% with your comment, it scares me if Israel is prepared to ignore Nuremburg what hope is there for us?

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

Israel have been involved in atrocities since they were re-invented. Why is this a surprise?

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  jb12

As have many other countries, however it was what happened to the Jewish, and others, which as we all know led to Nuremburg. History is being airbrushed by many in order to introduce such draconian measures.

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

The Israelis, along with South Africa, are a special brand of psychotic, which is why it is not surprising.

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HelzBelz
HelzBelz
4 years ago
Reply to  leicestersq

Exactly my first thought too.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago

The NUMBER ONE moral issue is to make sure that CHILDREN are KEPT AWAY FROM THAT FILTHY NEEDLE!

SHAME on Peter fucking Hitchens and his stupid debate with someone I don’t even know

WAKE UP!

It is a POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS and UNNECESSARY VACCINE!

CHILD EXPERIMENTATION.

SAGE ARE CRIMINALS AGAINST HUMANITY!

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

I’d go along with your other points wholeheartedly but I think Hitchens in firmly on our side and has tirelessly argued against the coronamadness since Day 1

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I agree he is but he needs to drop this nonsense about the govt being motivated by the best of intentions…that is horse manure sorry.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

Where has he said that?

In any case the govts intentions are somewhat secondary – unless and until we persuade enough people that the coronapanic has done more harm than good, we are nowhere

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Need to form LARGE mass protests like in Germany et al.

Non-violent, of course, so that people SEE there is an alternative.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Where has peaceful protests got anyone?

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Satyagraha. Just saying.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

I’m not sure violent protests would be the answer though, until more of public opinion is on our side – I think they would serve to put people off

Mass civil disobedience may be a better way forward

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

We don’t hear much about New Zealand. So this website (sent to me by a NZ friend) is well worth a read, so that people can see that many Kiwis feel EXACTLY as we do, and trying to fight their corner.
Here’s the blog page, with some great articles:

https://voicesforfreedom.co.nz/blog/

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

It’s really just to provide a visual sign to those who are sceptics that something isn’t up, that they might join us.

That really is all that can happen now.

Also, there are other countries in the world who are rebelling. They would see it on social media even if, like the German protests, mainstream media ( fascist complicit and criminal ) ignore it.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

He does make a point of insisting that we must presume our political opponents have good intentions. He regards that as the basis of civilised discourse. I think he extends that to the government despite his intense dislike of what the have done and the way they have done it.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

That is the kind of RUBBISH Hitchens has been coming out with for months.

This is TOTALITARIAN FASCISM we are fighting, and there is no room for ‘polite debate’ now that all avenues of it have been demolished.

At best Hitchens and his debate serves as an example for future generations on how to behave in a civilised society.

THIS is a society that is OPENLY calling for MASS EXPERIMENTATION ON CHILDREN!

There is NO ROOM for polite debate.

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

I’m not so sure. If makes too much anti government noise he will be labelled an anti government crank and likely banished from the airwaves. If he comes at it from the angle that the government have the best intentions but have inadvertently got things wrong and we want to help them correct things he may well engage better with the majority of the population. Even though we know better we have to think about how best to win over the majority of people.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

It is MONTHS away from MASS EXPERIMENTATION on children.

I care not a jot what a FUCKING FASCIST PUBLIC THINKS.

I am interested in drawing out the decent people among them who already have realised the truth. A MASS RALLY creates the assurance that there is a significant number of citizens who think differently from the mainstream.

PLUS, muggles will also begin to have doubts, potentially, when they see it is more than Piers Corbyn out there. Fantastic guy as he is, hero and all that.

Last edited 4 years ago by FedupofLies
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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

Well – we know what the road to hell is paved with.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yeah, sorry, I wrote that when I was angry. Peter Hitchens was the first person I read against the lockdown. I am just angry that he has the kind of middle-class identity that he could have led a revolt. Instead he attacks David Icke who has clearly filled a vaccum where such as he might have been. Fair enough, I guess.

And he is getting into silly twitter spats with lightweight journalists that go nowhere.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Yup we’re all angry

I don’t remember everything he has said about Icke but most of the things I have seen are along the lines of “I don’t agree with everything David Icke says” and have been a response to people comparing him to Icke. I don’t think it’s fair to call that an “attack”

As for the Twitter spats, it’s a point of view but at least he is trying to engage the opposition in debate – he’s not going to convert Dan Hodges but some people watching that debate might start to change their views and it’s an opportunity to put forward the sceptic case

As for his middle-class identity and leading a revolt, I don’t think he’s got that much credibility outside of those who generally agree with his take on things

He has worked tirelessly to put the sceptic case, actually quite a purist version of the case based on the value of liberty, since the start and been mercilessly attacked for it

I don’t think he is much of a joiner, and prefers to plough his own furrow, which is his choice. I expect his views on leading a revolt are that he is not a person to do such a thing and the revolt doesn’t need leaders, just ordinary people taking whatever action they can to push back

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Ah well, he’ll just stand by as mass experimentation on kids takes place.

I have never been on a protest in my life. I LOATHE the protesting classes.

As for Icke, he says that the ‘sceptic position would have won were it not for Icke’.

My point is, Icke is up there because Hitchens preferred not to be.

I have literally no idea who Hodges is.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Hitchens refuses to condone breaking the law and appears to ascribe our predicament solely to compound incompetence- he is perfectly entitled to hold these opinions. In fact, such traction as he has upon what passes for the national debate about the response to Covid would be completely destroyed were he to renounce the former, and possibly the latter. His debate on the Mike Graham show with the vacuous Establishment brat Hodges, whom he schooled, was seen by a mass audience. Were Hitchens to start advocating breaking the law, even assuming for a moment that he ever would be inclined to do so, he would be un-personned in an instant. He absolutely needs to keep doin’ what he’s doin’ in the way that he’s doin’ it.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Dermot McClatchey

“ appears to ascribe our predicament solely to compound incompetence” That’s not my reading of his position. I think he’s made clear that there’s a good deal of power madness, cowardice and arse covering involved, which makes the govt wicked rather than incompetent

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Fair enough, Julian, yes…..was meaning more that he sits on the “cockup” side of the unfortunate, false and unhelpful “cockup/conspiracy” binary. As opposed to the “conspiracy” side of said unfortunate, false and unhelpful binary. Wickedness and incompetence are certainly not mutually exclusive- a government can be both wicked and incompetent, as our current junta demonstrates on a daily basis. Uptick, anyway!

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

To not mention Big Pharma, at least, as the engine of this is pure wilfull ignorance.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Dermot McClatchey

There is no DEBATE!

They are making an experimental gene therapy mandatory for a fucking non-dangerous virus, and all because BIG PHARMA has taken over government.

They are planning EXPERIMENTATION on YOUR KIDS.

THEY ARE THE WORST CRIMINALS IN HISTORY.

Then again, maybe you are right.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Hitchens has argued against the coronavirus madness from the outset. His arguments have persuaded others, people who supported lockdown and the rest. He has made, and continues to make, a significant and substantial contribution, challenging the madness day in and day out.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Update on Hitchens: He has just posted this tweet:

“Good and right are often defeated, @davidhoban8, and frequently far more utterly than they have been defeated here and now. There’s no secular answer to this, only a hope that what we do here matters somewhere else, and that telling the truth is worthwhle for its own sake.”

So that is Hitchen’s moral response? To the planned experimentation on children?

He says there is justice in heaven. What a fucking immoral douchebag.

he only ever cared about his own being a contrarian.

Fuck him!

I am never reading anything by him again. Ivor Cummins thread is my go-to, anyway.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago

All the western vaccines are part of the depopulation scam. If push comes to shove, perhaps the Russian Sputnik vaccine might be the best of a bad bunch, but even then not if it can be avoided.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Forced injections for the whole population including children. No not even the Nazis went that far

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

My niece has 3 children who live in Portugal, they all have to be vaccinated or no schooling.

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Oh dear. And it seemed for a little while as though Portugal just might have been a beacon of hope.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

Now it’s just a bacon of hope

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Hope she isn’t expecting grandchildren.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

That’s horrific. Has there not been any pushback Bella Donna from the parents in Portugal?

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ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago

Stephan Lewandowsky? STEPHAN LEWANDOWSKY? Those of us that have been following ‘climate wars’ over the past decade will recognise the name – he was responsible for the fr**dulent “97% of scientists” paper, along with aussie cartoonist John Cook (founder of the Orwellian “skeptical science” website). Lewandowsky is also one of the most unpleasant people I’ve seen in the whole “debate” (and that’s a crowded field) – all we need now is for Michael Mann or Naomi Oreskes to pipe up and I’ll consider my (and others’) hypothesis that covid19 and climate change are the same monster wearing different clothes proven. Ashamed that a Bristol ‘educational’ establishment should employ him – sorry.

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Katabasis
Katabasis
4 years ago
Reply to  ChrisDinBristol

FWIW Chris, if it gives you a chuckle, it was me who originally leaked his data to Steve McIntyre and other sceptics after I pretended to be a head-banging green who needed his data to help me fight off “evil deniers”.

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ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  Katabasis

Chuckle? You deserve a medal (so does Steve, but I expect you’ll both be waiting a long time). Anyhow, well done indeed!

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EssieSW
EssieSW
4 years ago

Forgive my rant, I only very occasionally comment but I visit the site almost every day and I just need to let this out.
I am so full of hate now, and I hate it. I have always been one to let and let live and to try and see the best in people, but no more. Lockdown and the whole response to covid has changed me as a person. I find myself wanting to hide away because every single time I go outside there are morons walking outside in the open air in masks. People stepping into the road (often without looking first) rather than walking past me on the pavement. It makes me feel like there is something wrong with me even though I know full well the problem lies with them. I avoid all eye contact with people, my eyes constantly trained at the ground when I see someone approach me. I hate these people, and I know nothing about them. And I hate them more for making me feel that hatred.

They question nothing, and I find myself hoping that they suffer. That the masks make them ill, that following the ‘rules’ ends up harming them somehow. Then I feel hatred towards myself for wishing that on a stranger.

I’m sure this is also something the behavioral physiologists have engineered too. To make those of us who don’t buy into the fear feel very isolated. I am not going to start a conversation with a stranger because I hate them on site.

The hardest part about all this for me is the uncertainty. On this site we share ideas and information about what is happening or might happen in the near future. Health passports, forced vaccination and the ever lasting lockdown. I just want to know what is going to happen. Even if it is going to be a fully totalitarian state and the end of life as we once knew it. The worst thing is this purgatory we find ourselves in. Living of scraps of hope when we read about protests, businesses staying open and facing fines and the odd voice in the government and public eye daring to question this madness. I don’t know if that is enough for me anymore.

Last edited 4 years ago by EssieSW
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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

I want to see this government publicly lynched, that’s how much I hate them.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Fair enough.

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

I’m sure many of us understand completely what you say.

I hope you continue to share your thoughts.

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

Hate is normally such a strong word however I can certainly relate to your feelings. It is not a surprise so many are experiencing such emotions which we probably do not do. The behaviour bods have managed to scare so many into submission, the flip side of their actions is to make many very angry.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

I have no problem saying I hate them. well, probably not the sheeple, but certainly those who devised and are pushing this agenda. I could quite cheerfully take part in murdering them, and moreover believe that I was doing a good thing. I suppose because I believe that they are trying to murder me: therefore it’s only self-defence technically speaking.

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

I understand everything you say. I feel the same way.

But one thing I do differently, in an effort to plant a seed (which may take root, who knows?) is, when approached by a muzzler when walking, to beam broadly and say brightly ”Good morning! Nice day!” (or whatever) – so that they can remember how it felt to be greeted with a smile and a merry word. I want them to be reminded. I want them to feel uncomfortable about the loss.

It may not work – but if it makes JUST ONE of these idiots actually THINK, then it’s worth the effort. And it IS an effort to treat them as if they’re normal. So YOU continue to be normal. That’ll show ’em.

Last edited 4 years ago by Banjones
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EssieSW
EssieSW
4 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

Thank you Banjones, this is the approach I took last year but I feel so worn down lately I haven’t done it. But I will resolve to try and do this again, you are right, it is worth the effort.

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pub with no beer
pub with no beer
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

I have avoided places like supermarkets and town centre where the masked people are. I can only hope that they are following the rules to avoid confrontation, and will realise the plot eventually. I go out on my bike a lot and have found shops and a catering supplier who never say anything to me when i go in unmasked and an outdoor market for butchers , bakers and greengrocers, all of which i am trying to educate about the facts, not the lies. keep up your resistance , you are not alone, and keep venting on here. its a great place for humour , facts and educated people.

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  pub with no beer

Just an aside, re muzzles – it specifically states on the government’s own website about ‘examptions’, that the police should NOT wear them because of their job to ”serve” the public… (I know, the word ”serve” is risible.)

Perhaps we should all make a point, if ever in a ”conversation” with an officer, of asking him/her to remove the muzzle.

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Sam Vimes
Sam Vimes
4 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

Police officers are exempt, and yet they wear them outdoors, where they are not needed or mandated. All part of the propaganda assault.

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John Crichton
John Crichton
4 years ago
Reply to  Sam Vimes

Out walking my dog earlier today out in the countryside. A cop car passed me with a lone plod in it – yep, you guessed it, fully muzzled. I laughed so much had to sit down for a few mins to recover.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

The most important thing for you to do is to find people irl who share your hatred of this coronapanic mess and find constructive things to do with them. You can’t change anything on your own, none of us can, but you can at least be someone pushing in the right direction.

Find a way to direct that hatred constructively. Don’t ever let it turn back on yourself.

Real life contact is vital. Isolation of dissenters is what all propaganda and censorship is aimed at, from pc cancel culture to coronapanic manipulation. They want you to feel alone and helpless and to doubt your own sanity. The best way to resist it is to find real people to talk to about it.

There is no certainty about what is coming, and anyone who tells you there is, is lying.

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EssieSW
EssieSW
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I will try to find people in my area again who share our views, and I do desperately want to take action and do something constructive. Unfortunately the town I live in is ‘middle class’ so compliance is very high, lots of mask wearing outdoors, virtue signaling with those bloody rainbows in peoples windows and I since the new year I am 99.9% of the time the only person in the shops/supermarkets unmasked.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

Same in my area, tbh.

Have you tried the forums here? There are some regional posts there, might be one for your town or area.

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EssieSW
EssieSW
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I posted on the forum towards the end of last year but didn’t get a response, but I will certainly try again.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

As Silke says, can try Telegram as well. The Great Reopening campaign has a whole bunch of regional subgroups. It’s pretty chaotic and there are a lot of people of doubtful sense and possibly motives there, but it is possible to find a likeminded few amongst the chaos.

THE GREAT REOPENING (UK), [12.02.21 10:40]
LOCALISED GROUP MASTER LIST

LONDON –
BIRMINGHAM –
BUCKINGHAM –
MANCHESTER –
LIVERPOOL –
NOTTINGHAM –
LEEDS –

ESSEX –

WILTSHIRE –
NORTHUMBERLAND –
KENT –
BRISTOL –
HERTFORDSHIRE –
YORKSHIRE –
LEICESTERSHIRE –
LANCASHIRE –
BRENT –
NORFOLK –
SUFFOLK –
SOMERSET –
BERKSHIRE –
SURREY –
OXFORDSHIRE –
DURHAM –
NORTHAMPTONSHIRE –
DORSET –
WORCESTERSHIRE –
CHESHIRE –
CAMBRIDGESHIRE –
LINCOLNSHIRE –
TYNE AND WEAR –
GLOUCESTERSHIRE –
DEVON –
HEREFORDSHIRE –
BUCKINGHAMSHIRE –
CUMBRIA –
HAMPSHIRE –
TESSIDE –
TUNBRIDGE WELLS –
SHROPSHIRE –

SUSSEX –
WARWICKSHIRE –
STAFFORDSHIRE –
BEDFORDSHIRE –
ROCHDALE –
CORNWALL –
MERTON –
DERBYSHIRE –

WALES –
NORTH WALES –
SOUTH WALES –
CARDIFF –

SCOTLAND –
IRELAND:
NORTHERN IRELAND –
SOUTHERN IRELAND –
DUBLIN –

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EssieSW
EssieSW
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Good suggestion, I will check it out

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

Have you tried telegram?
I, too, live in a very middle class town, and we have a group who organise maskless shopping trips. Just one thing to make you feel better, being in a supermarket with other visible faces.

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Bungle
Bungle
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

Why not give us a place and time?

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

Same with mine but not outside the town (or even the centre). Plenty of normals there. Go for long walks and you will see them.

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EssieSW
EssieSW
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

It would not surprise me at all if that is the way this will go. Its kind of what I mean about the purgatory. Civil war would be very messy but at least something would be happening and the government will see not everyone is abiding by and believing this shit

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this is my username
this is my username
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

Essie, I understand your feelings. I know that for me, living alone this last year, I lost almost all human contact because I couldn’t even chat to people in the supermarket queue anymore – partly because I couldn’t understand them with their masks on. Like you, I have changed to avoid eye contact in the main, with anyone wearing a mask.

I’ve managed because I have kept my eyes on the God of the Bible – my hope is in Him and nowhere else. There are no political solutions to this, although I wish everyone the best with whatever they want to do to try to stop this – maybe they will succeed. My priority is my relationship with God. I try to stay humble and feel sorry for those who have been misled into following along with the beginnings of this totalitarianism.

I’ll add here some verses from Micah Chapter 7 which bring understanding and comfort.

1“Woe is me!
For I am like those who gather summer fruits,
Like those who glean vintage grapes;
There is no cluster to eat
Of the first-ripe fruit which my soul desires.
2 The faithful man has perished from the earth,
And there is no one upright among men.
They all lie in wait for blood;
Every man hunts his brother with a net.
3 That they may successfully do evil with both hands—
The prince asks for gifts,
The judge seeks a bribe,
And the great man utters his evil desire;
So they scheme together.
4 The best of them is like a brier;
The most upright is sharper than a thorn hedge;
The day of your watchman and your punishment comes;
Now shall be their perplexity.
5 Do not trust in a friend;
Do not put your confidence in a companion;
Guard the doors of your mouth
From her who lies in your bosom.
6 For son dishonors father,
Daughter rises against her mother,
Daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law;
A man’s enemies are the men of his own household.
7 Therefore I will look to the Lord;
I will wait for the God of my salvation;
My God will hear me.
8 Do not rejoice over me, my enemy;
When I fall, I will arise;
When I sit in darkness,
The Lord will be a light to me.
9 I will bear the indignation of the Lord,
Because I have sinned against Him,
Until He pleads my case
And executes justice for me.
He will bring me forth to the light;
I will see His righteousness.
10 Then she who is my enemy will see,
And shame will cover her who said to me,
“Where is the Lord your God?”
My eyes will see her;
Now she will be trampled down
Like mud in the streets.
11 In the day when your walls are to be built,
In that day the decree shall go far and wide.
12 In that day they shall come to you
From Assyria and the fortified cities,
From the fortress to the River,
From sea to sea,
And mountain to mountain.
13 Yet the land shall be desolate
Because of those who dwell in it,
And for the fruit of their deeds.

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ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

Look them in the eyes. Be proud. They are deranged, not you. This is taking – and will continue to take – a kind of moral courage that we never expected to need, but which shows us to be stronger – and yes, better – than they. Government measures worldwide will cost tens – maybe hundreds – of millions of lives, cause utter misery for billions, and are removing fundamental freedoms fought for over centuries – that is blood on their hands, not yours.

Be proud.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

Source unknown:

“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of ‘Men who wanted to be left Alone’.

They try, so very hard to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love.

They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it.

They know the moment they fight back, the lives as they have lived them, are over.

The moment the ‘Men who wanted to be left Alone’ are forced to fight back, it is a small form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be.

Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these ‘Men who wanted to be left Alone’, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives.

They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror.

TRUE TERROR will arrive at their door, and they will cry, scream, and kick but it will fall on death ears. For they are the few and we are the many. “

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HelzBelz
HelzBelz
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

I totally empathise. I hate people that I used to consider friends. I hate my husband. I feel like a bad person for hoping that he will get the vaccine and die. But I cannot abide his views any more – he has become a moral vacuum and is not the person I married.

This morning’s row – he thinks vaccination passports are OK because ‘it’s out only way out of this’. He said the same about extended lockdowns, restrictions, masks, testing, track n trace, quarantines, travel bans… he hasn’t been right yet, so why would any sane, intelligent person think that vaccine passports are the way out?

What disgusts me is that I’m living with someone who clearly supports medical interventions for which voluntary, informed consent has not been given. He is no better than the Nazis that supported Josef Mengele.

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EssieSW
EssieSW
4 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

No wonder you feel disgusted! I think this whole episode has shown a lot of people for what they really are and where their true morals lie.

I hope that things are not too difficult for you HelzBelz living in that situation and I am sorry you are having to put up with arguments on a frequent basis.

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HelzBelz
HelzBelz
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

Thank you – just wanted you to know that you are not alone in your hatred. I’m sure many of us feel this way.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

Oh god that’s awful. Luckily my husband and I share the same views in all of this.

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kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

Hi HelzBelz,

Your husband does not know, or cannot accept, that vaccines can cause serious lifelong harm. Try asking him to look at this site, and then ask him if it is reasonable to force an untested liability-free medical product on anyone, adult, or child who has an objection.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/

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kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/about-us/mercury-vaccines-cdcs-worst-nightmare/

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Bungle
Bungle
4 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

Get in touch with me, Helz, and we can run away together like the owl and the pussy cat. You sound wise and I purr a lot!

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

We all know how you feel, Essie.Raw hatred is strength, but it’s also poison.
I try to act on the words of a character in a favourite children’s book: ‘Once I hated a nan, and it poisoned my days and nights until I realised he was mere scum and not worth hating and so got peace of mind’.
These zombies are mere scum. Look through them. They don’t dare touch you or even come near you. They aren’t fit to do so even if they wanted to. Walk tall and stay with us!

Last edited 4 years ago by Annie
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EssieSW
EssieSW
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

Thank you very much to all of you who have taken the time to respond to me. I appreciate the experiences you have shared and words of encouragement. It is helping me to find the will to fight and turn the hatred into something constructive 🙂

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

Hi

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  Janette

Hi EssieSW I totally understand your feelings and do also wonder where this is all going. It’s horrendous but we must stay strong and support each other. I am sure more people are waking up. Stay strong. Don’t forget we are here for you.

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

Beautifully put.

I’m 100% with what you say.

There’s a real danger of being consumed by the burning anger.

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

I’d still rather nuke China.

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

That sounds like a 77th Brigade diversionary comment.

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Bungle
Bungle
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

Nice one Essie, we’re with you!!!

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

see you on the barricades, Granny Slayer!

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primesinister
primesinister
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

I second rockomans comment 100%
 

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Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

The end game is depopulation by “vaccine” and this explains the governments frenzied efforts to get us all clamouring for the lethal injections.

Last edited 4 years ago by Rowan
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nootnoot
nootnoot
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

Hello
I “hear hear” everything you say.
Please hang in there. I also experience the same things you mention. Living with family and friends who are all pro lockdown and a wife who is a covid nurse really makes my sceptisism hard to promote. Is there anyone you can talk to localy? I’ve talked to more neighbours during lockdown than before. It seems many off us are similar thinking.
Also, if you walk past someone and they don’t cross the road, try saying more than “Hi”. Stop, say something more and just try and start a full conversation. I always find many people want the other person to stop and say more otherwise they’ll just walk on. People do want to talk. My Grandad told me today we need to get out and all talk to each other as that’s the best way to really try and understand what’s going on.

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago

I got the link to theburningplatform from LS (thanks). This page was particularly interesting, about Fauci, PCR and the ”vaccine”.

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/01/27/the-flip-flopping-anthony-fauci-part-4-pcr-tests-defining-vaccines-vaccines-are-safe-and-choosing-a-vaccine/

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swedenborg
swedenborg
4 years ago

A tale of two countries.

One has been world leading in science led response to the pandemic. The best scientists in the world. They have brilliant virologists and are sequencing the virus much more than any other country in the world

The other country is poor and has been in armed conflict recently. I can bet not a single virus has been sequenced as above.

One country has afforded not just one lockdown in the spring but even two more with enforced mask mandate and SD. Although the price has been -10% GDP fall 2020 ,it has been acceptable to all political parties and public opinion.

The other country had the first lockdown in the later spring early summer wave but quickly stopped these measures. The country couldn’t afford a lockdown and mask regulations is constantly flouted and any SD in restaurants etc has ceased.All shops etc are open. There have been wide spread demonstrations in the capital without hinderance.

One country has been strongly against a  “let it rip through” darwinistic spread of the virus in the population which could kill many.

The other country thought that there was some immunity from the first wave and did nothing in the second wave with LD and further SD measures as they could not afford it.

https://eurasianet.org/armenia-eschews-lockdown-but-enjoys-covid-reprieve

Please tell us how SD and LD is working.
 

coronavirus-data-explorer.png
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Chicot
Chicot
4 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

Hah! Great minds think alike. I just posted exactly that graph to prove the point on a different forum. So many have been brainwashed into believing that cases and deaths just carry on rising indefinitely in the absence of human intervention.

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

The highly-indebted, highly-taxed welfare states of the Anglosphere and the Eurozone are at the centre of this.

If things continue as they are doing, then these societies are heading for collapse.

Last edited 4 years ago by rockoman
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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

Good
I look forward to hunting collaborators in the street Mad Max style

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

By then everybody will be a lockdown sceptic.

Last edited 4 years ago by rockoman
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Two-Six
Two-Six
4 years ago

So vaccine passports. The vaccine doesn’t stop you getting “it”. Vaccine passports are useless. Not everybody can actually have a vaccine for very good reasons. Vaccine passports are useless What about all the other diseases that are much more dangerous and common? Vaccine passports are useless. How can such a system be realistically workable it’s going to be really hard to do. Vaccine passports are useless.

Whats more important than these important things is this. A lot of people just aren’t getting jabbed.

Look, they have jabbed all the most vulnerable and gullible, hit all the soft targets and now they have ran out of jabbees in the upper age groups and ALREADY they are jabbing the 50+ demographic.

I think by next week they will be targeting the very brainwashed 20 somethings and once they round up these fools that might be another 5 million.

So then when all the very brainwashed have had the jab. We will have 20 to 30 million people in the UK who will not get jabbed.

They know this so what do they do, predictably they turn up the fear/threat/coercion dial up another level. No holidays sheeple unless you get jabbed. Like no Christmas unless you follow the rules.

This is all they have FEAR THREATS AND LIES. It’s not working very well any more is it.

This is why they did that advert with all those has-been “celebs” saying “do your best to stay at home” “Stay at home and save the NHS”, “please stay at home and save lives”.

They bastards know that nobody is listening to their bullshit anymore. No holidays and health passports are the last thing they can pull out their butts to scare the sheeple into getting jabbed and even that isn’t going to be enough. People are sick of their bullshit and their lies don’t work very well any more.

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Two-Six

Great post

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  Two-Six

I am hoping, almost praying, it is the last throws of desperation.

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  Two-Six

This is where the manipulation of the information the public can or cannot see becomes even more important. The polls, so they keep telling us, are all in favour of what they are doing. So they feel they are justified. It is very difficult to communicate with like minded sceptics with the censorship ongoing. I am sure there are far more sceptical people out there, at least I hope there are!

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nottingham69
nottingham69
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

They know support is falling the internal information will tell them. The only thing in their favour now is the weather. For males I am sure there is a sceptical majority. More of the ladies are still scared, particularly those with young children and working in public sector. They are bombarded with propaganda and fear porn.

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  nottingham69

All the sceptics I know are women! Perhaps I should get out more…. oh, just remembered – I can’t, can I?

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

Other than my husband, the sad situation is other than on LS I do not know any! I have found that women are the most awful when I am out without a mask, I am sure they would not be so nasty to a man.

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jennybean
jennybean
4 years ago
Reply to  Two-Six

I hope so, my husband says they’re just trying it on. I’m not scared of covid, I’m scared and very angry at whoever is in charge (not sure who that is)

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Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
4 years ago
Reply to  jennybean

3 deranged scientists, 1 Secretary of State for Health with serious delusions of being Hitler and 1 Prime Minister known to be a charlatan, pathological liar and worthless individual. That’s whose in charge.

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mattghg
mattghg
4 years ago
Reply to  jennybean

That’s more or less exactly what Charles Walker said when he voted against lockdown 2: I’m not afraid of the virus, but I am afraid of what’s lurking in the shadows.

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  mattghg

Was it Charles Walker who also mentioned dark forces?

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mattghg
mattghg
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

I think we’re thinking of the same speech.

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mattghg
mattghg
4 years ago
Reply to  Two-Six

I saw that advert. A few of them said ‘we’re almost there’. Does any of them have a clue where ‘there’ is, though?

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Steeve
Steeve
4 years ago

Discuss

COVID-19 mRNA BNT162b2 is a vaccine used for active immunisation to prevent COVID-19 disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 virus.

The vaccine triggers the body’s natural production of antibodies and stimulates immune cells to protect against COVID-19 disease.

Apparently a rare side effect (1 in 1000) people is temporary one sided facial drooping.

Not know side effect (cannot be estimated from the available data) severe allergic reaction.

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  Steeve

Pfizer’s own figures for reactions, etc. Here, I think:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/958616/COVID-19_mRNA_Pfizer-_BioNTech_Vaccine_Analysis_Print.pdf

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Steeve
Steeve
4 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

Thanks. Is that updated weekly?

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
4 years ago

…and on the basis of that politically motivated US PH behavioural paper that cites highly speculative modelling papers or talks about weather and climate and splits hairs between pandemic and endemic virus behaviours, the modellers can dismiss seasonality and simply ignore latitude altogether. These people are extremely confused and ignorant and yet they drive policy.

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l835
l835
4 years ago

So I had an operation to remove a suspected cancer before Christmas, and was expecting a follow up appointment with histology. Two months later I phoned them as I hadn’t heard anything, more for reassurance as if they’d found anything they’d let me know urgently? Wrong. They “haven’t forgotten about me” and will be sending me a letter. Great, let me know if I’ve got cancer or not by post.

Stay home, save the bloody nhs.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  l835

This is a scandal. Awful Disgusting.
Do write to your MP. Even if s/he’s the usual spineless slimeball, s/he won’t be able to say that s/he didn’t know about it.
You could write to Wankok as well, same reason.
I will pray for you (unless you object!).
Bon courage! Hope you get good news, and soon.

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l835
l835
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Thank you Annie, your chat before Christmas helped me decide to have the op. Will write to my AM once I get the results, although he’s probably still drinking somewhere in the senedd!

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gina
gina
4 years ago
Reply to  l835

I’m so sorry to hear you’ve had such a stress. I wish you well.

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l835
l835
4 years ago
Reply to  gina

Thank you.

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mj
mj
4 years ago
Reply to  l835

not in the same league, but i had a blood test before christmas (surgery wouldnt do it , i had to pick up a form from them and the book the hospital.
after a couple of weeks i phone surgery as they had not let me know results were back. apparently not their job.

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
4 years ago
Reply to  mj

And yet I bet they got arsey that you dared to phone the great doctors to find out…

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
4 years ago
Reply to  l835

This is how the Great NHS has always done it, FIL was told a few years ago that he would get a letter if his cancer had come back, if no letter then everything fine.

Not like letters ever get lost in the post or anything, is it? Quite apart from the inhumanity of hearing the news by post.

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Lindy
Lindy
4 years ago
Reply to  A. Contrarian

It must clear to anyone with half a brain cell that the NHS is run for the convenience of its employees not for those it’s is meant to provide service to. It was before SARS-CoV-2 arrived, and even more so now.

How dare we expect hIghly paid NHS management to have properly planned for the predictable annual winter crisis.

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MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
4 years ago

Last week, I posted that our local butcher’s family had gone down with ‘IT’. Yesterday, the main butcher was back at work. I asked her how she was and it appears that 3 of them had tested positive after 1 daughter lost her sense of taste and smell and she herself developed a bad cough. She said she’d been ‘a bit poorly’ but kept on working on the farm (frustrated at not being able to be in the shop), the daughter was, unsurprisingly, otherwise asymptomatic but her husband was ‘quite poorly and weak’, now slowly getting better. She did not seem to feel very sorry for him but then she is a farmer!

I sympathised and asked her if she thought their experience justified the ‘measures’. Answer: a resounding ‘NO!’ and she said, ‘They’ve buggered the country’ for this. We agreed (again) that you cannot hide from a virus, masks are useless and damaging (like me, she’s appalled that people wear them outside), that the lock-downs have been a disaster and it’s all about money and power.

I missed a trick. The shop assistants are also sceptics and none of them got ‘IT’ so I wish I’d accused J, who I always have a laugh with, of being the ‘superspreader’! (sarc alert) Next time. . . .

If only there were more people like this. Pay attention, local zombies! MW

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG

And the virus was game-functioned off research started by Fauci and then shifted to China. Laboratories built by Big Pharma corps. Don’t know what the Chinese knew about what was going on there.

Judy Mikovits spills the beans in her banned Plandemic documentary.

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MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG
4 years ago
Reply to  MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG

ps They are all anti the so-called ‘vaccinations’ too! 🙂 MW

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Ovis
Ovis
4 years ago
Reply to  MiriamW-sometimes-AlanG

Well, they’ve not buggered the country for this. They’ve buggered the country, at best, for the joy of buggery.

There are of course other hypotheses represented btl.

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Ovis
Ovis
4 years ago

There is at least one thing going badly wrong for the regime: the obedient, compliant people are even more miserable and desperate than we are.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

I’n afraid I find that a very consoling thought. A whole year of living in hysterical terror. I hope it was really, really horrible.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Man fined £10,000 for pushing a pickled onion along the road with his nose.

A senior officer commented. “I understand peoples frustration but this sort of behaviour is extremely selfish and could lead to the death of four million babies

In the interests of public health I have instructed officers to punch the next person they find doing this”

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Cecil, I love it.

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Freddy Freethinker
Freddy Freethinker
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Was he wearing his face nappy?

I’ve consulted with a lawyer friend and as I now understand it the walking of pet pickles is legally acceptable (possibly a loophole) so long as they are not gherkins and you are not making a wally of yourself.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Freddy Freethinker

And are wearing two masks and the onion has been sanitised.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  Freddy Freethinker

It’s not a pet it’s a wild pickle, so therefore unlawful

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mj
mj
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

and when he finished speaking he said “That’s shallot, I walnut accept any argument or egging on “

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isobar
isobar
4 years ago

Wtf? ‘Prof Lockdown’ says parts of UK could be in Tier One from May: Neil Ferguson hints summer could be ON, says Covid cases are falling faster than expected and hopes this will be the FINAL shutdown – despite warning social distancing may stay until 2022
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9253133/Claims-social-distancing-stay-END-2021.html

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

What business of Ferguson’s is it to be speaking to the media about what Tier’s people will be in and what will and will not be allowed to do. He is only a government advisor and so should not be appearing in the media at all, all announcements such as this should be made through the proper Downing Street channels.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

Good point – as John Lee (I think) said this week – there was a time when government advisors kept schtum as a matter of principle.

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

He’s an ignorant, arrogant, self-serving, unprofessional oik.

What’s more he is unelected and DISHONOURABLE.

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Bugle
Bugle
4 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

With bad dress sense.

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isobar
isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

Totally agree, same goes for the rest of SAGE and or NERVTAG

Last edited 4 years ago by isobar
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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

He’s such an odd one. A few weeks ago he was saying that herd immunity might have been reached. It’s almost like he’s becoming slightly less pro-lockdown.

They are contradicting each other about every 5 minutes now. It’s horrendous.

Cases have been falling faster than expected for weeks now, has he only just noticed?

Last edited 4 years ago by A. Contrarian
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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  A. Contrarian

“He’s such an odd one.“

I think ‘opportunist’ is the word.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

‘Slimeball’ is better.

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Freddy Freethinker
Freddy Freethinker
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

G7 summit in June, Cornwall.

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Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

I thought this lockdown was longer so there wouldn’t be any more tiers. I think Pantsdown is trying to publicly influence Johnson.

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago

This is going to be the most expensive humble pie the pro-lockdown people have ever made.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/02/12/economy-shrinks-99pc-record-annual-contraction/

For those without access, text here: https://pastebin.com/3FucWYHq

Screenshot 2021-02-12 at 12.56.01.png
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Ovis
Ovis
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

If it postpones one death by a few minutes…

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

Quite

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

Exactly, if just one 101 year old mages to eek out another hour drooling in an old people’s home then it will have all been worthwhile

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

Nah, it’ll be because of coronavirus, not lockdown.

Still, it might make Rishi think twice before extending furlough yet again… or perhaps not.

Last edited 4 years ago by A. Contrarian
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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  A. Contrarian

The unions already calling for furlough to be extended until the end of the year. Hopefully Sunak will say enough and turn off the free money, I doubt he will as you say.

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

It beats me why Sunak has had such an easy ride of it. He is printing money hell for leather and in a few years no doubt will move onto another cushy overpaid job and leave the rest of us to sort of the mess of a bankrupt nation.

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

Perhaps there’s ”someone” behind the scenes, either supplying the money or ready to bail us out.
I wonder who that could be?

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

He is hopeless as a chancellor, no experience, always wants to raise taxes and not pro small business or the self employed. I am sure he will cave in and extend furlough.

He was put in as a yes man long before this madness.

Last edited 4 years ago by Cumbriacracked
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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

I can never understand why a multi millionaire married to the richest woman in Britain would want a job like Chancellor, looking after everybody else’s money.

Of course, I might also be cynical.

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

Instictively, I want to stridently disagree with you.

But I’m afraid I cannot.

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Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

I don’t think Sunk so to blame actually. He was handed a poisoned chalice. Under the circumstances I think he’s doing o.k. Johnson needs to sort out Wancock and the scientists.

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo Dominich

I disagree, all he has done is hand out free money and ensure public sector workers do not have to worry about how to pay their mortgages as many others have. Sunak is as part of this as the others. By not resigning he is going along with everything. It’s very easy to just keep the printing presses going for quantative easing.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

He is the worst offender of the lot. He could end it tomorrow by turning off the money tap.

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

He’s probably been tipped the wink that there’s plenty more where THAT came from…

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Bullseye.

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo Dominich

Do you not remember the years when Brown was Blair’s chancellor?

Brown ran domestic policy with an iron fist simply by controlling the money departments could have and what they could spend it on.

I’m not seeing any evidence that RS is using his powers in such a resourceful way. (assuming he is what he’s purported to be by those who have hope in him)

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

Printing press go brrrrrrrrrr
Get your savings out of stirling

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Ewan Duffy
Ewan Duffy
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

And put it into what? EUR/USD are also printing press go brrrrrrrrrr.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  A. Contrarian

Fishi doesn’t do thinking. Or arithmatic.

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Barbara Baker
Barbara Baker
4 years ago
Reply to  A. Contrarian

It will morph seamlessly from Magic Money Tree to UBI and New World Order at the swipe of a pen …..

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DJ Dod
DJ Dod
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

Listening to the news (R4) this morning I was struck by how the report on the shrinking economy was swiftly moved on to a positive view about the ‘pent up demand’ that would deliver a speedy recovery. It was almost as if they were trying to placate listeners who might have noticed a link between ‘lockdowns’ and economic disaster.

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  DJ Dod

Remember the V-shaped recovery?

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

They won’t care so long as THEIR money keeps coming in. It seems to me that lockdown zealots must be the most selfish people alive.

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Freddy Freethinker
Freddy Freethinker
4 years ago

If this great big charade is all a smokescreen for a failing International Monetary and Financial system then look no further than Deutsche Bank for the root cause back in September 2019. No one wanted to lend them money overnight.
Rife with dodgy dealings, dead bankers over the last decade and about 50 trillion in derivatives liabilities, most of it junk.

https://wallstreetonparade.com/2019/09/the-repo-loan-crisis-dead-bankers-and-deutsche-bank-timeline-of-events/

How long before the wibbly wobbly stack comes tumbling down?

My view now is act like a once derided prepper.

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Freddy Freethinker

When it does come tumbling down I think it will be the final nail in the coffin for the European Union.

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  Freddy Freethinker

China certainly would like the west to suffer financially, that has certainly happened and will continue. Planned or using it to their advantage?

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Freddy Freethinker

Am I a bad person for wanting to watch it all burn?

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

no, it’s the only fun we’re likely to have left now

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

Fat Boy’s wonderful “trade agreement” probably has a subsection promising to pay half their CovviCosts that only appears when you hold it over a candle.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Freddy Freethinker

“My view now is act like a once derided prepper.“

Sometimes, the difference between lunacy and genius is timing.

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alw
alw
4 years ago

“An in-depth analysis of the government’s covid vaccination strategy and their plans to reopen society. All makes perfect sense. Hope you feel reassured.

It only stops when we say it does.

Because the government don’t have a plan at all and never have had.

Resist.”

Just brilliant a must watch

https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1360125856715313157

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

Ha ha ha.

Brilliant video – to get this to all the people that believe that lockdowns will stop if they just get the jab

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danny
danny
4 years ago

Ferguson (somehow still given a media platform) proudly announces that some areas might be in tier 1 by May.
1) tier one is still more restrictive than anything since WW2.
2) May? It is mid February now you deranged sadist.

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OKUK
OKUK
4 years ago
Reply to  danny

Why should we be arsed to follow the rules if if their primogenitor Ferguson can’t be arsed to obey them, because he wants a cross-London shag with his bit on the side? And why did he go swanning off to North America to “spread the fear” back in early 2020, knowing what he claims to know about viral transmission…he was just adding to the risk, wasn’t he?

It seems epidemiologists are exempt from their own rules and advice – perhaps they have a weekly booze up together at Imperial College?

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Freddy Freethinker
Freddy Freethinker
4 years ago
Reply to  danny

G7 summit in Cornwall in June.

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  Freddy Freethinker

I do think keeping people in lockdown is one of the reasons to stop any protests at the G7 summit.

Last edited 4 years ago by Cumbriacracked
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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

And an excuse to cancel the May elections?

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Freddy Freethinker

Ten day’s quarantine and imprisonment for liars?
Imprison the bloody lot, then.

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  danny

Why are the schools not yet open?

Why are the english schools not opening after half term?

School closures = child abuse

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

cf a few years ago when some parents were imprisoned for taking their children out of school for a few weeks to go on a foreign holiday – apparently because this would cause irreparable damage to the child’s education

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  danny

Let’s say, rather ”deranged UNELECTED sadist”.

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godowneasy
godowneasy
4 years ago

The UK hotel quarantine system is a bit risky compared to the Australian approach because inmates will be able to go outside for “fresh air” (or a fag?) in the company of the security guard. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56037420

One Australian epidemiologist described allowing travellers quarantining in hotels to leave their rooms for fresh air as “very risky”. Prof Michael Toole said there was evidence of transmission when guests opened doors, and “with the positive pressure this kind of fog of virus went out into the corridor, travelled down and infected hotel staff”.
It comes as the Australian state of Victoria enters a five-day “circuit breaker” lockdown in a bid to suppress an outbreak linked to its hotel quarantine system.
Victorian Premier Dan Andrews said that the quarantine system would be further strengthened – all inmates will be placed in an induced coma for the length of their stay – this will help tackle the “hyper infectious” bastard mutant strains now appearing. It will also save money on the catering, he said.

Yes, I made up the last bit, but you get the idea.

Last edited 4 years ago by godowneasy
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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  godowneasy

I read something from South Korea that suggested the virus can circulate through the air con

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Sars Cov1 seemed to really like air con by all accounts

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Not just aircon:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/344561555_Intercontinental_Spread_of_COVID-19_on_Global_Wind_Systems

Fine aerosols on the wind means:

SD – useless
Masks – useless
Lockdowns – useless

Last edited 4 years ago by rockoman
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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Viruses can circulate through anything.

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redbirdpete
redbirdpete
4 years ago
Reply to  godowneasy

The safest place to be is outside. Without a mask.

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merlin
merlin
4 years ago

Kim Jong-Dan has locked down Melbourne again . The source of the latest outbreak is one of the quarantine hotels. Tennis fans watching the djokovic vs Fritz match were also kicked out at 11.30pm , part way through the match. How much more light needs to be shone on these brainless fucktards for the masses to realise that they are taking the piss.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-australia-idUSKBN2AC06S

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  merlin

Yup, that’s the reality of the covid-zero lunacy – you think you are covid free and suddenly you’re not and you lock everything down again at short notice, ad nauseam

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I think that’s a feature rather than a bug. Some people find the idea of a state mechanism to shut everything down and order everyone about at the drop of a hat very enticing.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Well, yes, a feature for those doing the ordering, but the carrot for some of the deluded here is that once we achieve zero-covid then things can be normal again – I see a lot of comments from people saying we should be like Aus or NZ, and I think they should reminded that the reality is very different

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

As can be seen from the NZ website:
https://voicesforfreedom.co.nz/blog/

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merlin
merlin
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

It’s pure mental illness. Matts Wilander mentions the crowd being kicked out in passing like it was a perfectly sensible step. We are being trolled by these arseholes.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  merlin

Quarantine works really well, then.

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OKUK
OKUK
4 years ago

Well we have another rubicon…if that’s metaphorically possible. Any MP who votes for vaccine passporting is voting for authoritatian globalism and against a return to sane normality.

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
4 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

You think they will actually get a vote. ?

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

I’ve just written to my MP to ask her if she’s in favour of these diktats appearing without debate or scrutiny. She just spouts the party line though. Too comfortable on the gravy train, no doubt.
Sir Charles Walker seems to be on our side though.

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John Galt
John Galt
4 years ago

If you want everything that’s going on to make sense, you need to learn about Technocracy. A book called “Technocracy Rising: The Trojan Horse of Global Transformation” by Patrick M. Wood is a good start.

To sum it up briefly – technocracy is the society they want to implement. They want us to be pawns in a global dictatorship ran by “experts” rather than elected politicians. They want us all to live in cities where they’ll track our energy usage and track our movements. I’ll break down each part as to how it applies to now:

Global dictatorship – we’re essentially living in a globalist world now, as we’re all restricted by the same thing.
Experts – none of us have voted for any of this, we’re just expected to listen to the “experts” and to follow their guidance.
Tracking our energy usage – think about the big push for smart meters and the implementation of smart motorways, amongst other things. Also their decade long onslaught of trying to shame us regarding “global warming” (which is a big part of this plan), will result in restrictions to our “energy usage”.
Track our movements – track and trace, surveillance on our smartphones, rumours about tracking chips etc.
Cities – the countryside is very inconvenient for them to track us. You may have seen an advert for NEOM, this is how they envision future life.

Once you learn about technocracy, which is what The Great Reset is, everything starts tying up. For example, you may think “how are they printing so much money? How do they intend on paying it back?” Well, they don’t intend on ever paying it back because they expect to move into a new society where past debt is irrelevant to them. You may also think “why are they flagrantly and blatantly violating laws?” And, again, they expect to move into a new society where their past transgressions are no longer challenged.

It surprises me to see comments on here with people still saying things like “why are the government not looking at the facts?” The top comment a couple of days ago was a long breakdown about how statisticians weren’t looking at the situation “rationally”. Rationality is an irrelevance, the truth is an irrelevance, it’s all an irrelevance because this is all for an agenda, and they’re pushing full steam ahead with it regardless of whether the “facts” match up or not.

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  John Galt

Spot on. An escape to the 3rd world might be the only option to avoid it.

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John Galt
John Galt
4 years ago
Reply to  leggy

If they succeed, sure. Personally, I don’t think they will.

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  John Galt

Let’s hope you’re right. I have a very sceptical local friend who is of the same opinion – “They won’t get away with it this time”.

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John Galt
John Galt
4 years ago
Reply to  leggy

My optimism comes from the fact that they’re attempting to make a world altering change in a short space of time. There’s so much to juggle and it’s based on such lies that it won’t take a lot for it to topple.

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Alice
Alice
4 years ago
Reply to  John Galt

I haven’t read the book, but my conclusions about recent events seem to agree with your summary of technocracy.

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John Galt
John Galt
4 years ago
Reply to  Alice

Once you start looking at recent events with this in mind, everything ties up, doesn’t it.

It’s why I’ve stopped paying attention to the minutiae they throw at us – it’s all just a distraction so we get bogged down and don’t see the big picture.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  John Galt

Parts of S America are quite nice
It isn’t all shanty towns

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John Galt
John Galt
4 years ago
Reply to  John Galt

He is indeed:

http://trilateral.org/download/files/TC-MEMBERSHIP-LIST-JANUARY-2020.pdf

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captainbeefheart
captainbeefheart
4 years ago
Reply to  John Galt

I’m still baffled as to why so many people can’t see / don’t want to see this

(well, no one wants to see it, but it’s there)

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John Galt
John Galt
4 years ago
Reply to  captainbeefheart

For people who post on this site and sites like this, I agree, there’s really no excuse to stay ignorant towards it. This is why the main updates are useless now – they’ve decided that they’re not going to cross that line, so any updates are now just about frivolous nonsense that, like I said below, they just throw at us to baffle us. On other forums we were discussing vaccine passports last April, so to see the main updates portraying them as some kind of new idea is just completely laughable.

For people who are ignorant towards the whole thing, I think it’s a mixture of a couple of key things. The first is that it goes entirely and completely against what they believe, so to even consider for a second that it could be true would completely wreck their world view and subsequently their entire psyche. The second is that without any prior knowledge it’s quite a complex subject. As I was reading the book I kept thinking “how are we going to get this across to the masses?”

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  captainbeefheart

Me too. But it’s a kind of denial. It’s too uncomfortable. Much easier to throw insults about ”incompetence” and so on.

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago

ONS Coronavirus Infection Survey UK February 2021 now out, which gives an indication of prevalence of SARS-C0V-2 in a cross-section of the community.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/releases/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveyuk5february2021

First thing to say is that despite the survey’s name, this doesn’t actually measure infections because most of the positives are ‘false positives’ for example people who have no symptoms, or only have detectable viral fragments not live virus (and that’s ignoring any test contamination issues).

The positivity rate is the percentage of people who have tested positive for COVID-19 at a point in time. We use current COVID-19 infections to mean testing positive for SARS-CoV-2, with or without having symptoms, on a swab taken from the nose and throat. This is different to the incidence rate, which is a measure of only the new infections in a given time period

For example 75% of the positives have a cycle thresholds above 26.6 whereas live virus is highly unlikely at a cycle threshold above 25. It is possible that live virus is actually roughly equivalent to a positive at a cycle threshold below about 20 which would mean only 10% of the positives are true infections. So between 10 and 20% of the positives are genuine infections perhaps.

First here is the positive test prevalence by nation. Ignore the modelled estimates but just look at the official reported estimates. Falling in all nations.


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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Regional PCR positive prevalence attached here

The percentage of people testing positive has decreased in London, the South East, North West, North East, and the South West in the week ending 30 January 2021

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Positive prevalence by age attached. The ONS describe this as

The percentage testing positive has decreased in England in all age groups except in those aged over 70 years
I might alternatively describe it as ‘The percentage testing positive has decreased in England in all age groups except in those where vaccination has been concentrated’

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Thank you for the info, very interesting.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Useful information, Freecumbria. Well done.

One thing that needs to be mentioned is the overall picture : this virus, even at worst, is not very prevalent.

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Portnadler
Portnadler
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I still don’t know anyone personally or have actually met anyone who has had it or anyone that I did know who has died from it.

No-one.

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Luckyharry69
Luckyharry69
4 years ago
Reply to  Portnadler

a friend’s friend of mine has got it…but to be fair he has been ill on and off for years……that’s the only person I know of…….

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Portnadler

I’ve known loads – I think because I know a lot of people in other countries, but I also know some in the UK, – and it’s just a cold

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Positive test prevalence in community is about 1 in 80 in England according to ONS. Only 1 in 10 of the positives are positives with symptoms and Ct below about 20 perhaps.

Then that’s at a guess around 1 in 800 in the community testing positive for ‘live’ virus at a recent point in time. Most of those will have mild symptoms. In a typical town you might only have the odd person in the community needing to be hospitalised with severe symptoms at the moment. The rest are likely to be nosocomial and care home cases.

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Regional prevalence to 6th February 2021 (corrected)

The percentage of people testing positive has decreased in all regions except for the South West in the week ending 6 February 2021

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Andrew K
Andrew K
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

But yet nearly all the over 70’s got jabbed.

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Sam Vimes
Sam Vimes
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

That will never do, will it? New ‘lethal’ variant incoming in 3… 2… 1…

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

And positive test prevalence of the new variant by nation.

Still looking from the data like the new variant isn’t more transmissible, despite what we hear.

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Whoops have posted last weeks figures. Will post this weeks shortly

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

National prevalence to 6th February 2021 (corrected)

12thFeb-nations-prevalence.jpg
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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Positive prevalence by age to 6th Feb (corrected)

12thFeb-age-prevalence.jpg
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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

And new variant positive prevalence to 6th Feb (corrected)

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

And corrected link to the 12th February survey (previous link was to 5th Feb)

https://www.ons.gov.uk/releases/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveyuk12february2021

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Carrie Symonds
Carrie Symonds
4 years ago

I’ve read the conditions for returning to the UK and it seems if you don’t complete the form it’s a criminal offence. As they are threatening to prosecute people under the Forgeries Act then not forging something is now arrestable. So will I be put in prison for which I don’t have to pay £1,750?

I am not over worried about catching covid but I am worried about catching it by being locked up in an air conditioned hotel not designed as a medical or isolation facility in any way. Bit like a care home really but it’s awful to say that.

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redbirdpete
redbirdpete
4 years ago
Reply to  Carrie Symonds

No, it’s quite right to say that – what has gone on in care homes amounts to manslaughter at the least.

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago

It’s all of a piece with the Global Action Plan, Agenda 21 and Agenda 30. All for the Common Good and nothing else. It has nothing to do with health, wellness and all those other Woke, PC clichés.

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  bebophaircut

No Mardi Gras in New Orleans this year. Order from the Mayor’s office.

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  bebophaircut

I have friends in New Orleans. One of them posted this the other day:

No parades. No bars. No go-cups. No loitering.Yes, it hurts that Mardi Gras won’t be the same this year, but it’s for the greater good.

I asked if he thought it’d be any different next year. His reply?

I honestly don’t know. Seems like there has been less resistance to distancing and masks lately,so here’s to hoping.

Yes, they’re a bit woke. I didn’t see any point in pushing it further.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
4 years ago

Can anyone please explain why we’re saying it’s a U-turn that government now wants vaccine passports?

Also, can anyone explain why the British, who have been so adamant against ID cards which are actually useful, are taking this laying down?

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Charlie Blue
Charlie Blue
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Is anyone here saying it’s a u-turn? You would have needed to believe them when they claimed they had no plans to introduce vaccine passports in order to think of it as such.

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gina
gina
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Blue

Nadhim Zahawi expressly and clearly stated in a number of interviews, only a week or two ago, that vaccine passports would not be introduced as they were discriminatory and not the ‘British way.’
I’ve written to him today to ask why he’s changed his mind since he made those statements and some follow on questions.
I would urge people to write to him expressing their alarm and opposition to any kind of vaccine passport.
Though writing emails doesn’t change what is done, it does at least give MP’s and ministers some sense that not everyone agrees with their actions – and they will never be able to say, come the reckoning, they did not know there was any opposition to their actions.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
4 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Blue

Yes… it’s at the very top of the page… Did you even read the update?

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

ID cards are useful – for whom?

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muzzle
muzzle
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Indeed. I know who I am so it’s not for my benefit.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
4 years ago
Reply to  muzzle

So you’ve never opened a bank account, then.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

For anyone who’s ever had to provide proof of ID or proof of address.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Anyone with any firing neurons knew that the Government was lying

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Also, can anyone explain why the British, who have been so adamant against ID cards which are actually useful, are taking this laying down?

Great question

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Fuck off with the ‘useful’.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
4 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

As some how has had an ID since i was 18, and who has had to deal with the backwards “proof of address, proof of ID” system in the UK, filled with people that can’t write down a name properly with a passport in front of them… Trust me, it’s useful. What exactly is your problem with it?

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

If you need to ask, you’re part of the problem.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago

Hector Drummond is correct:

Hector Drummond, Gone to Gab
@hector_drummond

The @Telegraph is lying again. Their graph says the UK’s worst economic collapse in 300 years was caused by coronavirus. That’s funny, because Sweden also had coronavirus and never locked down and they didn’t have a crash like this. Sick of legacy media.

https://telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/02/12/economy-shrinks-99pc-record-annual-contraction/

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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Any economic damage was due to the responses and lockdowns, not due to the virus.
If everyone had stayed open, there would have been no contraction anywhere, no debt explosion and none of the millions of deaths solely due to Western lockdowns in the 3rd world.
Every lockdown supporter has their blood on their hands, for good.
But then, thye know or even avtively wanted just that.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Of course. Claiming coronavirus caused lockdown consequences is like claiming a spider set fire to this fellow’s house:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-sets-home-fire-blowtorch-kill-spiders/story?id=58716474

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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Minus 10% with a gov debt/GDP ratio increase of 20% is a true contraction of 30%.
In an economy with an unchanged government sector and a previous equal 50% share for it and for the private sector, the real damage was minus 60% for the private sector.
That’s the true size and distribution of the economic destruction and the rebuilding task at hand.

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redbirdpete
redbirdpete
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Get over there and comment while you can. if they keep having to shut down comments due to all the dissidents (us) eventually they will realise they are committing suicide.

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Andrew K
Andrew K
4 years ago

I’ve lost all hope, you give people medical papers tat show an alternate side to the project fear narrative, and your a conspiracy theorist! You know what, I will probably be killed and stripped of my assets soon enough but at least I will die a free man in my mind. These sheeple who are asleep will get a very big shock soon enough.

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merlin
merlin
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrew K

We will win. I refuse to let the bastards get me down. If you can see the fraud then others will eventually see it as well.

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Harry Chara
Harry Chara
4 years ago
Reply to  merlin

Wouldn’t be so sure sadly . The Sheep are beyond saving in the UK . Accept it

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  merlin

Ae will win. Despite the sheeples. Let them hide under the bed for ever and ever.

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redbirdpete
redbirdpete
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrew K

Carry on hoping. What we need is good old Saxon stubbornness. It takes a lot to fire it up but it’s in there somewhere, as Kipling said:

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late
With long arrears to make good,
 When the English began to hate.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy-willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the English began to hate.

Their voices were even and low,
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show,
When the English began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd,
It was not taught by the State.
No man spoke it aloud,
When the English began to hate.

It was not suddenly bred,
 It will not swiftly abate,
Through the chill years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the English began to hate.

There will be a final straw that tips the balance – in fact handcock’s ridiculous 10 year sentence has already moved it our way – earlier last year you gov were reporting overwhelming support for government policy – by this week it was down to half and half.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrew K

the problem is I like some of the sheeple and don’t want to see them murdered

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/its-high-time-europes-lockdown-rebellion-spread-to-britain/

Excellent video embedded in this article of Italians harassing police to get the fuck out of a restaurant they are eating in. No face nappies in sight (apart from the scumbag police). Wonderful stuff. Nothing like this in the UK of course, and there never will be. We are one of the most supine, compliant, brainwashed countries in the world. Pathetic. The problem is, the longer we leave peaceful protests of non-compliance like this, the greater the need there will be for more extreme acts of resistance further down the line to turn things around.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

The Italians have a long proud history of throwing out their Governments

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

Usually once a year.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago
Reply to  bebophaircut

Like Belgium, things generally run better between governments.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

Very good point.
The UK has a long history of stable government. On the whole (said with all due caution) it has been better government than in many other countries, more stable and more respected.
Sadly, this means that now we have a thoroughly bad and wicked government, it’s harder for us to kick against it than it is in most other countries.
Maybe we’ll have to wIt until Bozo and his foul gang are the only Covvifascist tyranny left in the western world. If so, I hope their eventual humiliation will be the most abject.The worst government in British history.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

It’s high time Europe’s lockdown rebellion spread to Britain

That’s the spirit the likes of Toby Young, Peter Hitchens and TalkRadio need to be displaying. Ruat caelum.

These laws are wrongful, and it is our duty to disobey them.

Easy for me to say, you might suggest, because I’m not in the public eye. Ok, But I break these laws every single day if I can find a way to do so. I have never worn a mask. I’ve continued training weekly throughout, with a couple of like-minded friends. I’ve eaten out to support a business defying these laws, and I will do so again when the opportunity comes. I’m prepared to take the consequences, when they come. Those who have the privilege of a public platform have the higher duty thereby.

Things have gone too far already. It’s time for dissidents to put their money where their mouths are, because any other way out than forcing things by mass disobedience leaves the perpetrators unpunished and the laws and structures in place for next time.

No liberty, no compliance!

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Harry Chara
Harry Chara
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

We will never EVER protest or bring about action like the Europeans . As a country / populace we are finished !!!

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merlin
merlin
4 years ago
Reply to  Harry Chara

The sheep are 90pct , they are fickle and will easily change their position( and forget their previous position). Only need to convince 10pct. We are far from finished.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  merlin

Any revolution has only ever needed 10%

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

Fewer, as active participants anyhow.

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mikewaite
mikewaite
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

One part of that post amazed me was this item from Simon Dolan :
‘Britain has ceased to be a free country and we must do everything in our power to get our freedoms back. Is it right to comply with laws which are so damaging and wrong? If enough businesses are to take a stand and open, the rules would have to change, as they have done in other countries.’
Dolan champions SMEs (small and medium-sized enterprises) which make up ‘the lifeblood of our economy’ and he is heavily critical of the government’s Covid loan scheme. The general public may be unaware but these loans have sky-high interest rates of up to 35 per cent.

3%% interest rates? . people have been imprisoned for loan sharking for less surely.
Why does this Govt hate small businesses so much? It can’t be due to some political dogma can it? or if not that then there must be a financial motive underlying ths crusade against cafes , shops , hairdressers and all those who provide beneficial and appreciated services to te community .

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  mikewaite

It’s all part of the Global Action Plan. AI robots will cut your hair, polish your nails and give you relaxing massages. The government is just full of cretins who cannot think critically.

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Old Trout
Old Trout
4 years ago
Reply to  mikewaite

Speaking as a small business owner who looked into the loan situation, I haven’t seen any 35% loans. The ‘bounce back’ loans are actually 0% interest for the first year and then 2.5% interest. BUT once again they are biased towards larger businesses as the loan amount is based on your annual turnover. If you have just a part time business that turns over less than £8000 you won’t get a loan. Also many smaller businesses, especially those without business accounts, have been turned down. I can’t help but think its just another way for comfortably well off people to get easy cheap money.

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Puts all those jokes about Italians being cowards into perspective.

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago

That is very strange.
Unless, like you said, they made larger vials, that dose not seem possible. I am not an expert, but Dr Schmidt-Krueger in the Coronaauschuss already talked about this.
During trials it showed that 10mg is effective with less side effects, and doing 30mg per dose is a purely political decision. She did say you can dilute it more, ergo less mg, to get more jabs out of a vial.
Would be interesting to get an explanation.
I posted earlier that a region in Germany wants to do 7 doses per vial, so they can jab more people.

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

Update from German news website:
Usually there are drags left in a vial, if there is enough to make another dose, use it. Do not use drags from several vials to make a dose.
I guess the machines filling the vials are not very good.
Not really the answer to the instruction leaflet, but one explantion.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago

It is so they can charge more. The vial contains the same amount, which Pfizer had assessed as five doses, but the NHS were getting six doses out of each vial.

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Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve Hayes

Pfizer. The charge is per dose.

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Harry Chara
Harry Chara
4 years ago

I got a SMS from my Doctor’s Surgery to ask me do I want my Vaxx . Instructions to reply YES or NO to the text . Put NO 5 times and the message was unable to send . Looks like the System won’t even accept my reply hahahahahhahah . They don’t like what they hear lol

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  Harry Chara

It’s a hidden survey. Don’t answer yes or no. It’s none of their business. Ignore them. Every time you or anyone else answers one of their queries it spurs them on to continue their insidious intrusion in our private lives.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  bebophaircut

100% ignore the stab merchants for as long as possible

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fiery
fiery
4 years ago
Reply to  Harry Chara

People really do need to block their GPs number on their phone or alternatively ring up, say you’ve changed your number and make one up.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Harry Chara

Have you tried typing UNSUBSCRIBE?

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Markus Skepticus
Markus Skepticus
4 years ago

Say it all, really.

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godowneasy
godowneasy
4 years ago
Reply to  Markus Skepticus

35…..stones????

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mikewaite
mikewaite
4 years ago
Reply to  Markus Skepticus

Surprised they were able to fit a mask around that neck.
What a nasty thing to say you cry – but if he had denied himself a few pies he might have saved an 85 year old from dying due to being coerced into accepting a lethal vaccine injection., So i am not sorry for being so unsympathetic.

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  Markus Skepticus

They took away their Whisky.

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WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
4 years ago
Reply to  Markus Skepticus

That man is NOT in his 30s

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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

It’s what frying Mars bars does to you…

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Markus Skepticus

Maybe he identifies as a 30 yr old transageist

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  Markus Skepticus

That guy is a year younger than me. He should be ashamed of himself. The problem is, in Scotland in particular, the public are also fat gluttons, so don’t see it as the health issue it so obviously is.

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Two-Six
Two-Six
4 years ago
Reply to  Markus Skepticus

He is wearing a “high pressure oxygen mask”…
Looks like it.

STAND BACK HE’S GONNA BLOW!!

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Pebbles
Pebbles
4 years ago
Reply to  Markus Skepticus

35 years my arse. That’s more like 55 going on 60… morbidly obese and never gave a crap about his health. Nevertheless I wish him well… fuck theMSM.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Markus Skepticus

Why are they pumping him up with air?

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago

Disney cancels Gina Carana for stating historical fact:

Carano ignited fresh fury on Tuesday night when she shared a post implying that conservatives are treated like Jews in Nazi Germany.
“Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors…even by children,” the post said. “Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views?”

Sound familiar?

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  bebophaircut

Sorry, Gina Carano.

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  bebophaircut

Lucasfilms supported the ban. George Lucas: from THX 1138 to Star Wars to Hollywood Liberalism and Woke Culture to Cancel Culture Totalitarianism.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  bebophaircut

Hasn’t she already gone to the Daily Wire?
Gina will make bank from this if she is savvy

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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  bebophaircut

As a German, I can confirm her statement and supply plenty of evidence, even from family records.
No one says we are at the killing stage yet, which is what the Liberals always seem to comply when any such comparisons are made and makebthem get a tantrum, but the parallels to its prequel are unquestionable, which is what she stated eloquently and correctly.

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
4 years ago
Reply to  bebophaircut

My pronouns are beep/bop/boop.

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Johnsontown
Johnsontown
4 years ago

Headline article on the BBC website:

“Levels of coronavirus are going down in all four nations of the UK, latest figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show.

The data provides more evidence that lockdown is working to control the virus, even [with] the more infectious variants circulating.”

The first paragraph is a statement of fact (okay, we can argue about how “levels of coronavirus” are measured and whether the tests are accurate etc, but it is at least an accurate description according to the ONS metric).

The second paragraph is an interpretation of that fact, presented as though it were unambiguously true, without any nuance or challenge. Levels of coronavirus are coming down: this must be due to the lockdown “controlling” it. The counterfactual – that they would be coming down even without the lockdown, or perhaps that the lockdown may be playing a part but only a minor one – is not considered.

This is not objective reporting; it is simply pushing the contentious narrative that lockdowns work, without putting any alternative view across. Imagine them saying: “This has been the coldest January in the UK for some years; this data provides further evidence that climate change is a myth”. The BBC would never report like this and rightly so: it would be a contentious and disputed claim.

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  Johnsontown

yes. coming down at the exactly same time all for the whole the world

lockdown is literally the last thing I’d think of

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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OKUK
OKUK
4 years ago
Reply to  Johnsontown

Yep, typical BBC subjective propaganda. No mention of seasonality or, as Steve mentions, universality.

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Sam Vimes
Sam Vimes
4 years ago
Reply to  OKUK

Or the lockdown intentionally being juxtaposed with already falling figures.

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Johnsontown

“The BBC would never report like this and rightly so: it would be a contentious and disputed claim.” They would never say climate change was a myth but a lot of what is presented as fact is contentious and disputed. The BBC is a full-on propaganda organisation now. Just look at their news pages and half the pieces are obvious attempts to push an agenda

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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Johnsontown

A look at Sweden would also immediately nullify their conclusion.
They know that, and that’s why they double-down on doing it.
Same in Germany at the press conference today.
Over there, they have either gone completely mad, or are taking the p*ss out of the people in a most obvious and ever absurder fashion, probably to test how far can they still go with these absurdities.
They now changed the totalky arbitrary and mesningless incidence number from 50 to 35 before they’d consider loosening restrictions, and Wieler, the Whitty equivalent, seriously spouted that we should now try to eradicate all illnesses and stay shut until that’s achieved.
What can you say?!

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Paul M
Paul M
4 years ago

I’m hoping Reiner Fuellmich and his crew will expose all this and bring the house of card crashing down.

I always thought coercion to have unwanted medical procedures went against international law.

Indeed, even the Council of Europe (a group of, I think 47 countries) recently stated vaccines should be voluntary and those not having them must not be discriminated against

Many of us saw this coming, but were written off as conspiracy theorists. Well, the are becoming conspiracy facts. I dread for the future if the rest of the stuff starts coming true

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Sarigan
Sarigan
4 years ago

https://twitter.com/lozzafox/status/1360125856715313157?s=24

An in-depth analysis of the government’s covid vaccination strategy and their plans to reopen society. All makes perfect sense. Hope you feel reassured.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  Sarigan

I’m going to transcribe this, it’s absolutely brilliant. Completely demolishing the case for the fake vaccines in less than a minute, and with humour.

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B.F.Finlayson
B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago

Levels of coronavirus are going down in all four nations of the UK, latest figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show.

The data provides more evidence that lockdown is working to control the virus, even with the more infectious variants circulating. BBC News Online.

One more time – no it does not prove lockdowns are working! It simply confirms what I and many others have saying since last Summer that C19 figures (projected or otherwise) have been deviously mapped onto previous years’ data for flu and other respiratory infections. As I stated on here a couple of weeks back the C19 will begin falling in Feb, and then drastically tail off in March. No vax, no lockdown, no masks – it’s just going to happen and you can’t stop it.
Meanwhile Bojo, SAGE & the BBC keep trying to play at Columbus taking the moon away. .

Last edited 4 years ago by B.F.Finlayson
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Paul
Paul
4 years ago

My wife has just been pretty much thrown out of our gp surgery because she refused to wear a muzzle.She has a medical reason for being exempt,and the bloody surgery knows that,she was wearing her exemption lanyard but the receptionist said exemptions do not apply on surgery property with no exceptions at all.
My wife tried to stand her ground but they would not budge and told her to leave.My wife is the nicest,kindest and most gentle person I know and the way she was treated was disgraceful,she is upset and quite distressed by what happened,I am absolutely livid.
They said to her.’can’t you just wear a mask just this once ?,it won’t be for long’,bastards !.
We have been at this surgery for 30 years and know the receptionist well and this is how my wife gets treated.
I want to take this further but I don’t know who to complain to,not that I think it will make any difference,I would be grateful to anyone who could point me in the right direction.
My wife goes to a hospital clinic and they have always been perfectly happy with her exemption and she has never once had a problem.
I really want to fight back against the insanity more than ever now,I mean actually physically fight back,being nice,calm and reasonable has got us nowhere.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul

Buy a WW2 gas mask on ebay and go full satire

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

Provo-spec ski mask gets my vote.

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Charlie Blue
Charlie Blue
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul

You can write to the GP Practice manager with a complaint. If you want to go beyond that then I think Citizens Advice website have info about making GP and NHS complaints.

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul

Bastards. Sounds like a good case for a discrimination case.

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Paulus
Paulus
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul

Check this website – they have a number of similar cases:

https://disabilityrights.org.uk

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Sodastream
Sodastream
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul

That’s truly disgusting and it happens where I work (nhs hospital) the staff have been known to say exactly the same. I’m so sorry for your wife .
There’s a great website miriaf.webs.uk where Miriam had done excellent template letters including one for being turned away at the gp surgery for not wearing a mask.
I fine it difficult when I’m upset and angry to compose a complaint so these templates help a lot .

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String
String
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul

Sorry to hear this Paul. This is atrocious.
Agree with other comments – probably the first port of call is to complain, formally and purposefully, to the Practice Manager.
I believe that actions of said Receptionist will almost certainly constitute a hate crime, but don’t take my word for it, your local police will likely have more info on their website. if that’s a road you wanted to explore.

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul

Next time go wearing full hazmat suit.

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Steeve
Steeve
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul

Before writing a complaint you could ask them for their medical proof/documents that masks work. At the end of the day being asked to wear a mask is a medical intervention. Before writing you could also ask for a written statement that a consultation was refused because of not wearing a mask and that they(the practice) do not recognise exemptions..They have said this verbally but they should also be willing put this in writing. It would also be worth getting help in constructing any letter so that it has a legal tone.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Steeve

In writing is sensible. Always record these incidents if possible.

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Achilles
Achilles
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul

I’ll be sure to give them a clap on Thursday. Bloody heroes.

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ituex
ituex
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul

Write to the practice manager, the senior partner and the Primary Care Trust.
Oh and get a mask that says ‘ I hate the NHS’ or ‘ The NHS is Useless’, ‘ Defund the NHS’ then they will ask you to take it off.

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Woden
Woden
4 years ago
Reply to  ituex

Couldn’t the receptionist be sued personally under the Equalities Act?

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul

Fire off letters to everybody. Don’t take this lying down. Good luck to you, nd all sympathy to your lovely wife.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul

A half-brick through their window is one response.

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul

V mask time. Troll those mofos.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/V-Vendetta-Mask/s?k=V+for+Vendetta+Mask

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul

Government guidance says if you’re exempt you don’t have to wear a mask. So ask the surgery if they are intentionally breaking government guidelines.

See (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own)

There’s also a Cabinet Office document saying the same, but in more forthright terms. I’d hazard a guess that if they deny a non mask wearer entry, they are breaking the law. Maybe they would like to think about that.

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago

Just saw on the Not on the Beeb FB that apparently a court has declared closing of bars and restaurants in Basque country illegal as there is no evidence they are a spreader.
Can still be overturned by a higher court, but for now they are open and setting a precedent for other areas.

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

Is that North East Spain? Old ETA stomping grounds? Huge ruling if that’s the case. Spain have had it bad in terms of restrictions.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  leggy

It isn’t generally wise to mess with Basques.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Best not to restrict them to just one way out – a bad idea to put all your Basques in one exit.

<< coat >>

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago

Thinking of getting a shirt printed.

“BRITAIN IS MATT HANCOCK’S BATTERED WIFE”

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WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

Yes!

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l835
l835
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

Mine will be “I’m fucking exempt, don’t even think about asking”

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  l835

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

Make it with a cartoon of a bruised and tearful union jack and that list of characteristics of an abusive relationship that applied so well to lockdown Britain.

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Nobody2021
Nobody2021
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

I don’t want that man associated with Scotland. If anybody is doing any battering it’s the Scots.

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
4 years ago

don’t give in or try not to, it’s what they want . i wont get any vaccine. the more of us who refuse the faster the vacine passport plan will disintegrate and not too soon enough i say

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago

In Mark Windows Lies Go Viral- For The Common Good From: Windows on the World
11 1 9 months ago
At minute 19 he calls Matt Hancock a dreary liar and other choice putdowns, but he doesn’t stop there. Further on, he suggests ridicule as a way to fight back. I’ve checked the Science Boris, you are a robotic liar.

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Niborxof
Niborxof
4 years ago

According to the PRB, the number of people born since the beginning of time is c. 108Billion (2019). With millenia of cumulative experience , of those c. 108BN Billion were ‘lockdown skeptics’ . Who do you think are the extremists, them or Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock and their ilk globally? I think we all know where the next few Billion will sit. We are all in good company.

Last edited 4 years ago by Niborxof
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WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
4 years ago

Here’s some ideas for passive insurrection.

1.) Stop sending your kids to virtual school. Turn on the BBC remote offering (it’s total shite, but state mandated). Tell the school you are still here and you will NOT be deregistering. They will have to involve the Child Missing Education team. You will eventually be given a School Attendance Order. At which point, turn up at the school, en masse and it’s job done. You cannot compel school attendance if you don’t provide a school.

2.) Concurrent to this, turn of the microphone setting off on every app on your phone and tablet, and stick something over your camera. (It’ll come off with an alcohol wipe anyway).

3.) Cancel news subscriptions and just jump from free sub to free sub for as long as it takes to see what you need.

4.) Get a shortwave radio and just listen to the World Service. (Very relaxing when it’s not genocide).

5.) Sit out on your corridor/balcony/front garden without your phone or any other digital media for an hour every day at the same time and chat to your neighbours. Be sure to keep 2 m distance. Call it “Chat for ourselves” or WhatsUpp Covid Support group.

6.) FOR GOD’s SAKE OLDER GENERATION (65 plus), get out there and be counted. Demo outside NHS buildings and schools. I suggest a placed that simply says, “Not in my name.”. Nice and simple. Stand 2 meters away and be sure to wear your lanyard that says, “under the equalities act I have the right to self-identify abs don’t have to explain a thing to you”.

7.) We fatties need to get the heck on and shed some tonnage. So that COVID can’t find any more victims, and pharmaceutical companies run out of idiots to feed with statins etc.

8.) Get a VPN. Use encrypted apps for communication. Just shut as many doors as is takes for all the parasites that are making money out of this manufactured crisis to crawl back into their holes.

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PWL
PWL
4 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

Take your children out of the hands of the state once and for all.

Let My People Go; How Organising In A Legally Cultural Separate Enclave Destroys Pharaoh

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

Some good ides, Handbag.

Not sure why you need to shout at us more mature folk though – we ain’t all deaf, young’un !

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SweetBabyCheeses
SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

Why do we have to stand 2m away from everyone else? Fuck that. I’m not assaulting anyone. Don’t like it then stay at home.

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nottingham69
nottingham69
4 years ago

Those who make a personal choice not to be vaccinated should also sign a form waiving their rights to hospital treatment for the next twelve months. Letting them loose in society is like opening the door to a guy with a machine gun. They are both potential murderers and should be treated just the same.

This is taken of the localrag Mirror site and they are happy to let such vitriol stay up. It is a one way propaganda campaign.

What I don’t understand is why the Mirror and Labour in general back Bunter and give themselves the smallest of potential political capital gains, saying he dithers etc. Tactics I don’t get, they won’t benefit when the economics bite.

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String
String
4 years ago
Reply to  nottingham69

Well seeing as NHS waiting lists have multipled for a number of treatments by a factor of 200x; I’d say the odds of being treated for a lot of things in the next 12 months are somewhat variable anyway…!

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PWL
PWL
4 years ago
Reply to  nottingham69

Not having any contact with the murderous NHS, not a problem for anyone not already on the death pathway.

As for treating vaccine refuseniks as murderers – that would mean innocence until proven guilty, as usual, and good luck with that. On the other hand, plenty of evidence that the NHS kills.

Is “Covid-19” An NHS Prescribed Drug-Induced Pneumonia (Amongst Other Things)?

The Beneficent NHS, Where Corporate-Government Makes A Buck From Population Control

Last edited 4 years ago by PWL
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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  nottingham69

https://www.reachplc.com/our-newsbrands

Reach PLC owns the Mirror, and 70 plus other news outlets.

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  nottingham69

So, do these people agree when they are denied treatment after they fell over drunk or their liver gave up?

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

most illnesses/accidents can be traced back to some extent to the sufferer’s own acts. it is a road that a socialistic health care system inevitably leads to, and another reason why such systems should never be allowed

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Apache
Apache
4 years ago
Reply to  nottingham69

More than happy never to use any NHS services ever again. Can I have a rebate please.

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  Apache

Exactly that.

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fiery
fiery
4 years ago
Reply to  nottingham69

At my age I’m probably mostly at risk of cancer, a heart attack or stroke all of which if treated might extend my life but seriously compromise any quality. I’d be more than happy to refuse treatment for any kind of life changing condition.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  fiery

Get some Chateau Lafitte Rothschild and Nembutal in.

Who would want to spend the rest of their days in a fucking death camp stewing in some disgusting mask while waiting to be told they can’t see their family or even leave because of some CUNTY ‘strain’ dreamed up by some CUNT and then being put down as a statistic to justify the ruining of their grandchildren’s futures?

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  nottingham69

They think the tory government will fall, this is all about getting into power for the labour party. Support the government to ensure lockdowns piss the country off (eventually) hope tories lose the next election, secondly if the country continue to say we should have locked down sooner, they will campaign on that. Finally if the country and MSM turns saying what we on LS think, Labour will support that position saying if elected they will never lockdown the country.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

BULLSHIT!

Starmer is on the Trilateral Commission.

This goes far beyond your parochial observation.

UNTIL people WAKE UP to the power of BIG PHARMA and the Going Direct Reset / Great Reset and Agenda 21/30 ( see interview on Planet Lockdown website with Catherine Austin Fitts: Catherine Austin Fitts – Planet Lockdown – Full Interview (bitchute.com) ) then they are going to be twisting in the wind for the rest of their miserable lives.

This is globalism.

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

I still maintain Labour will want to be in power irrespective of any other motive.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

I suppose, given how pathetic ‘Jezza’ has behaved in the wilderness with fuck-all to lose, it is obvious how pathetic he would have been as leader.

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
4 years ago
Reply to  nottingham69

They reckoned it worked for Biden so they think they can ride the same wave in 2024.

Last edited 4 years ago by Dorian_Hawkmoon
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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  nottingham69

“… waiving their rights to hospital treatment” — for me, fucking gladly. I have never had to visit a death camp willingly.

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago
Reply to  nottingham69

Should those who go to be vaccinated have to waive any treatment required following any vaccination injury?

After all, it is a free decision.

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
4 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

You nailed it. Anaphylactic reaction from the “vaccine?” Too bad, no treatment for you. There’s no question that some percentage of people will end up with lifetime autoimmune issues. No treatment for them. These sheeple will cost the rest of us a ton of money as the medium- to long-term effects of this experimental gene therapy manifest.

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ituex
ituex
4 years ago
Reply to  nottingham69

Thank God! I started reading this and thought it was your actual view!!

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Portnadler
Portnadler
4 years ago
Reply to  ituex

Getting familiar with the quote button helps!

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PWL
PWL
4 years ago

Of course vaccine passports are on the way. Dangling foreign holidays and entry to football matches was the only way UK Government was going to get a lot of cattle to get over its vaccine hesitancy.
“Covid-19 Vaccine” Adverse Reactions; Part One: Dropping Dead?

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  PWL

It’ll take more than that for me to get involved in their dystopia

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago

Cancel Culture appeals primarily to poorly educated, grammatically challenged (i.e. illiterate) persons.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

R number is down: Of course it Bleedin is; Its called HERD IMMUNITY!!!

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Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

We hope . I’m not yet convinced.

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Dorian_Hawkmoon
Dorian_Hawkmoon
4 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

It’s also called the end of Winter.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Dorian_Hawkmoon

YES.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Dorian_Hawkmoon

🙂 Just need Aslan to turn up now …

Last edited 4 years ago by JohnB
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l835
l835
4 years ago

Rhetorical question. Should I get one of those natty sunflower lanyards? Having been completely embarrassed trying to gain entry to M&S due to the following pantomime

“Have you got a mask?”
I’m exempt thank you
“Could you pop one on?”
No
“Are you sure?”
Yes
“I’ll just let my colleagues know your coming”
Whatever

I went to Tesco instead, and emailed M&S customer service.

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String
String
4 years ago
Reply to  l835

Only been to M&S a couple of times in the last year, but found them probably the worst place I’ve seen for mask compliance. Staff to be fair were very good in my experience, but a couple of death stares from folks, literally in one case masked 3/4 of the face, gesticulating wildly at me, ‘hey you haven’t got a mask!’ to which I just smiled and said exempt… paused for a few seconds and said, ‘exempt from bacterial pneumonia’. (technically true, I knew someone who contracted this a few years back, believed to be due to a temp covering they had in place for a short period. Extremely nasty for a while but thankfully made a full recovery) anyway I saw the woman’s eyes bulge as I said it, so maybe gave her food for thought. for a second anyway!

Re: the lanyard, I have one. it’s a personal choice, use it sometimes but not always, & just occasionally feel a bit more comfortable with it. For me I got one from etsy I think it was, and it was worth a couple of quid.

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pub with no beer
pub with no beer
4 years ago
Reply to  l835

i have 2 old v festival lanyards, one is yellow so im going to wear it next time i venture to the supermarket. wonder if they will spot the difference?

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  l835

Which M&S, l835 ? The ‘Could you pop one on ?’ is out of order.

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l835
l835
4 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

The big one at Cheshire Oaks.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  l835

Ta. Did you hear back from Customer Service ?

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l835
l835
4 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

Not yet, expecting the usual reply…

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Ovis
Ovis
4 years ago

I can see only one way for this to end: massive civil disobedience in the Spring.

In the end, it comes down to the use of force, and at this stage the police and army are not quite prepped for gunning down unarmed protesters or people behaving in an old-normal way. It is also not quite clear who in the regime would be willing to sign off on that kind of use of force, given the difficulty of escaping some level of personal responsibility. Massive defiance in the Spring probably overwhelms the regime.

In the aftermath, the main political parties, Parliament itself, and most British institutions are humiliated busted husks, held in deep contempt by the British people. But that’s tomorrow’s problem.

If the regime can keep up the kicks and kindness abuse routine through the Spring without serious opposition, then I think basically we are fucked all the way to Hell. There will be no escape, and no end.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

I agree as far as overthrowing the lockdown regime is concerned, though mass civil disobedience doesn’t have to mean riots. It can be dispersed and passive.

Our wider problems won’t be overturned in a few months, regardless.

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

True, the only way to clean up the mess if we ever get out if this would be if every single parliamentarian, civil servant and high ranking police officer resigned and was replaced by someone who was not complicit in such as abuse of the British people.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

RESIGNED?

They need to be PROSECUTED.

PUT in jail for a LONG TIME!

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

True, we need to ensure that there is a deterrent to put people off abusing public office again. Sadly if there ever is an enquiry it will be a whitewash and those responsible will not be brought to justice.

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

According to the series The Crown, it would take 10,000 totally dedicated and loyal troops to carry out a successful coup in the modern UK.

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PWL
PWL
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The economic blockade is just another in a long line of abuses. The Crown, all its secret handshake merchants, all its means to authority, has to go, and real republican government installed – and that’ll be a long job.

Action To End The Interminable Unlawful Lockdown

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  PWL

Yes, the Queen is a traitor and the future King a traitor to their subjects. And to think, minus the climatology garbage, I used to think Prince Charles had decent views.

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Me too. I believe he was a good, well-meaning soul. Then I listened the treacherous garbage he spouted for the WEF.

I still think they chose him as a useful idiot, to give some kind of respectability to their ”cause” (and he, not being the brightest, fell for it) – rather in the way his brother was chosen to give respectability to a different nefarious bunch.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Our CENTRAL problem is the EXPERIMENTAL GENE THERAPY on CHILDREN that is coming down the line.

THAT is our central concern.

The rest can be sorted out.

These people need a NUREMBERG.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is not serious.

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

I agree about the children but it is not just on children, adults who do not wish to take the vaccine for whatever reason need to be protected by Nuremburg too.

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EssieSW
EssieSW
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

I am interested to see what will happen at the one year mark. Could that be a turning point for some people when they actually realise how long they have been putting up with this? And that there is no end in site as the goal posts are being continually moved?

Not that I will hold my breath.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  EssieSW

We need to STOP THE VACCINATION OF CHILDREN with experimental gene therapy.

Who gives a flying FUCK about anything else right now?

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

It is up to the parents to say NO. Unfortunately, many of them are narrow-minded and dimwitted enough to believe the narrative. How do you stop children being abused in this way if the parents are ready to give their consent?

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

I think it is more than that: I think it is sadism.

A lot of women have abortions. I know sometimes it is reasonable, but they have them all the time. They HATE their children.

There is a female doctor doing the rounds on social media among sceptics. She was virtue signalling about taking the vaccine to protect her patients and her unborn child. Soon after she had a miscarriage and said how she felt the need to be honest with her followers.

Not for a SECOND did she question taking the vaccine, despite the evidence and the recommendation of WHO etc that pregnant women forego.

She could WARN other expectant mothers but she doesn’t. It was ALL about virtue signalling on stupid and overrated social media.

I honestly think a lot of women are evil. Possessive over their children, yes, but incapable of loving them.

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Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

See you at the barricades.My piss is boiling fuck democracy let’s try Chaos and Anarchy.Time for the filth to retreat to their barracks.

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Markus Skepticus
Markus Skepticus
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

Come on now, people have been saying it’ll end due to mass civil disobedience for almost a year. No such instance of civil disobedience has occurred nor will it occur.

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Ovis
Ovis
4 years ago
Reply to  Markus Skepticus

I don’t say it will happen. I say it’s our only hope of getting to an end point. To be honest, I don’t even give it even odds of happening. I just think there is still a chance, and it is worth pointing that out.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

sorry to be a pessimist, but my money’s on the regime. there will be no uprising. they will release the pressure valve just enough before tightening up again come the autumn.

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago

Half past two and over 1000 comments, so I don’t have time to read them all. Apologies if I’m repeating what others have said.

Questions for the general public:
If the vaccines work, why can’t restrictions be eased as soon as most of the vulnerable people have been vaccinated?
If the vaccines don’t work, what is the point of them?

Of course the binary assumption of “working/not working” is a bit simplistic, but it’s a starting point for more detailed arguments.

Mixed messages on the front pages of the tabloids today. The Sun says vaccination is going according to plan. The Mail quotes a Bank of England bigwig saying that the economy is like a coiled spring which will leap into action when released. But the Metro leads with some SAGE bastard basically saying lockdowns for ever (also inside the Mail according to the above-the-line stuff here). Classic good cop, bad cop routine.

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Luckyharry69
Luckyharry69
4 years ago
Reply to  Edward

There has to be a SECOND vaccine first?…and then the other 50 million or so have to have to have TWO jabs as well to get your ‘passport’?….so I reckon that’s a couple more YEARS at least of dragging this on?

and we will have another lockdown in the autumn….guaranteed

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Luckyharry69

“I reckon that’s a couple more YEARS at least of dragging this on?” I doubt it – once the reliance on the vaccine as a way out of this was established, it was always going to go on forever because of mutations

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Luckyharry69
Luckyharry69
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

apologies…yes…forever…I was trying to cheer myself up…….

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Polonium1806
Polonium1806
4 years ago
Reply to  Edward

How can someone believe that after a year or lot longer actually, everything will just spring back to normal like nothing happened is beyond me. Or do this detached eggheads think of the plebs as a mindless mass, obsessed with consuming? And what about all the sectors of the economy that will not be even close to normal, like everything travel related? Lies, lies, lies

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  Polonium1806

It’s often said that confidence is the key to an economic upturn. I can’t see any grounds for confidence in the current situation. The precedent has been established that lockdown and other restrictions can be switched on instantly at any time.

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Edward

Exactly, who on earth would start a business now (other than some ultra-light home business) knowing that at any time, it could be shut down by government decree?

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  Edward

Off on a tangent here: I listen to a lot of classical music, but I’ve never been keen on opera (Mozart and Rossini aren’t too bad). In one of the Sunday papers there used to be a feature called something like “My Week” in which some posho or bigwig would give a diary-style account of his or her week. There was usually a line “To the opera, with friends”. I was always a bit suspicious of people who claim to like opera but don’t seem to have a broader interest in music – is it just the spectacle they like? Or is it just a fashionable place to hobnob and network with others of their type? If they really do like opera for its own sake, aren’t they missing it desperately and what do they think of the notion that large-scale events seem to be banned for the foreseeable future?

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Edward

I’ve been saying for a while that this may be where the permanent-lockdown advocates get it wrong. The boffins whose only friends reside in petri dishes don’t care about permanent lockdowns, but the MPs and influential people who participate in the Season – Ascot, Henley, Wimbledon, hunt balls, Cav-Mem parade, Trooping the Colour, plus all the society weddings, baptisms, passing out parades &c might just start to tire rather of it all quite soon.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Edward

Last time I looked, you could get most operas on gramophone records. 🙂

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liztr835
liztr835
4 years ago
Reply to  Edward

I now believe there is more to it than a virus (yes I am late to the party I know), this is a minor illness for most of the population, if the vulnerable have been vaccinated, then there is no reason to not get back to normal, relatives in their 60s have now had their first vaccine dose, I can imagine people in their 50s being done next month at this rate.

The government have paid a lot off the population, who will sit compliant as long as they are financially whole. They have brainwashed people into thinking this is a deadly virus like Ebola, I know people who are not in any risk groups who are terrified of leaving their homes and are borderline agoraphobic.

If we have lockdowns forever, people like me in close contact jobs that will close in a lockdown will have to either close permanently, or up our rates to allow for 3-4 months off a year, this is not going to be viable, no pubs/restaurants/tattooists/hairdressers could operate under this. So much for the economy being like a coiled spring, the country is in massive debt, lots of people like me excluded from all help, there will be a massive financial reckoning for this.

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  liztr835

You are right. Economists have their uses, but when they’re wrong they can be seriously wrong. Before the 2008 crash, there would be occasional letters in newspapers from ordinary punters saying that “you can’t build prosperity on a mountain of debt”. The “experts” would respond, “these simple plebs don’t understand sophisticated modern economic theory”. But then in 2008 the sub-prime mortgage debt which had been sliced and diced into “collateralised debt obligations” (if I remember the jargon correctly) became worthless and the resulting collapse spread to the rest of the system.

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Tim Paton
Tim Paton
4 years ago

When ever I see a news piece about how traumatised NHS staff are I always wonder what our young men and women who served in Afganistan are thinking. They were never given the same amount of airtime and they have seen I imagine alot worse.

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim Paton

I remember very well how soldiers were disliked after Iraq, the management even advised soldiers to go in civvies when they did their shopping as they sometimes got abuse.
That changed after “help for heroes”.

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Nigel Sherratt
Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ ” Tommy, wait outside “;
But it’s ” Special train for Atkins ” when the trooper’s on the tide
The troopship’s on the tide, my boys, the troopship’s on the tide,
O it’s ” Special train for Atkins ” when the trooper’s on the tide.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Nigel Sherratt

Well, where the FUCK are they now?

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

Bullshit! Nobody hated soldiers after Iraq. This is like the myth of Vietnam vets being spat on.

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redbirdpete
redbirdpete
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Only the more extreme followers of a certain religion.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  redbirdpete

Oh, just a bunch of worthless types bussed in from some dump in Bradford.

IF we get through this, it is time to just simply END all this Identity Politics.

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ituex
ituex
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

I’m sorry, you are wrong. Soldiers and cadets were advised not to go out in their uniforms because of the threat of Islamic terrorism after Lee Rigby was murdered on his way back to barracks. Help for Heroes predates that.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  ituex

‘Lee Rigby’ ?!? I detect an msm narrative here …

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim Paton

FUCK THE NHS!

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richardw53
richardw53
4 years ago
Reply to  Tim Paton

I recall the army officer responsible for assembling the ExCel Nightingale comparing it to fighting on the Somme. God help us if ever we have to fight a real war.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  richardw53

The Officer class is all compromised with Identity Politics.

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago

Lockdown driver who got car stuck in the mud after ‘feeding ducks’ fined £200 (msn.com)

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Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago

This guy reports on Israeli data. He is not an anti-vaxxer – far from it.

https://twitter.com/dvir_a/status/1359603522581454856

Third update of my estimations of vaccination effectiveness. Not as optimistic as my previous posts. Data is based on cases of vaccinated individuals up to February 9th. Findings: 1. No protection up to day 21. We only see protection from day 0 of the 2nd dose. =

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Mayo

What do you make of that? Well down on the 95% claims and certainly nothing tangible after the first dose, again undermining the UK approach.

The government us acting as if it’s not a trial at the moment, assuming the vaccines allow for travel to return and vaccine passports etc. The big assumption in many models is that the marketing claims of the vaccines stand up.

Another shambles in the making. Even their most nightmarish policies seem doomed to fail.

Of course that’ll just mean restrictions stay. Eventually the Great Barrington Declaration will be shown to have been well ahead of the curve on many issues. Before then we may have to see the rise and disastrous fall of zero Covid for which the entire country will pay.

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merlin
merlin
4 years ago

If I were the chief cunt on SAGE running the psyop, now would be the time to unwind the lockdown. I would say that vaccines and lockdown saved the day , knowing that I could pull a similar stunt later on in the year. If I keep pressing lockdowns then the chance of major ‘short squeeze’ is increasing by the day as even the most docile sheep are getting twitchy.

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Mike
Mike
4 years ago
Reply to  merlin

I really not sure about the sheep getting twitchy…I’m literally on a team call at this moment in time and the numpties I work with are discussing their joy at the vaccine being rolled out and how good it is that their parents have now had the jab…sheep.

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Luckyharry69
Luckyharry69
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike

all my family are the same…you have my sympathies…

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Luckyharry69

As are mine. My parents are intelligent and normally very sensible rational people yet right now my Mother thinks certain death awaits if she dares step out of the front door or has any visitors in the house. It is easier to get my Father to see the lunacy of the situation but he still believes the whole thing is a government overreaction rather than something more sinister. Both can’t wait to have their jabs and think once they have had them they will get their lives back. Don’t know why I shared this with you all…….

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landt2020
landt2020
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

For what it’s worth, mine are the same. I’m taking my mum on an outing tomorrow. We will “happen to meet” at the entrance to the gardens we’re visiting, and then take our “daily exercise with one adult from another household” in the same vicinity… I think it’s the first time she’s been out for a month, she’s even getting the shopping delivered these days. She believed that everything outside was closed; just tumbleweed and virus rolling down the high street. I blame fucking Facebook and those poisonous local FB groups full of curtain-twitching Karens. Dad’s still working, it gets him out of the house and he can see the normality of the world outside but mum’s shut herself off mentally as well as physically. I’m really worried about her.

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  landt2020

I read an interview with Michael Palin in Radio Times and he was apparently genuinely surprised when the interviewer told him the trains were still running.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

uGH

people should have NEVER given so much credence to these goddamn entertainers

fucking sick society . ACTORS! THEY ARE FUCKING ACTORS.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  landt2020

I am not remotely afraid of ‘the virus’, which I don’t even believe exists, but the last time I left the house was October. the result of living in a village without a car.

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Pebbles
Pebbles
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike

Condolences. I know plenty people like that. Colleague even volunteering in vaccination center recruiting volunteers… Usually I try to say sth but I decided to let it be. May ADE fate decide… the awakening will be painful when the realization sets in people are getting ill – possibly fatally – with vaccine.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Pebbles

Mental health problems and god knows what. an entire generation of children to be experimented on. SICK!

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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  merlin

Communist party clinical psychologist Susan Michie, who is on various committee advising the government, is warning that vaccinating the entire adult population still won’t be enough.

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
4 years ago
Reply to  LMS2

She needs Offing !!

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Achilles
Achilles
4 years ago
Reply to  merlin

You’re forgetting who funds some of the key players in SAGE.

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this is my username
this is my username
4 years ago
Reply to  merlin

They are planning to destroy the economy – it never was about a virus. They are going to do it sector by sector – hospitality and tourism are not needed in the new UN Agenda21 smart city world they want to create. They have to destroy to get you to comply – if you have a job/income/security you could resist them.

That’s why they are unlikely to phase out lockdown, because if they do, these businesses might not fail as they want them to.

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merlin
merlin
4 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

I do not dispute your description of their objectives. However there is no guarantee that they succeed and even if they can pull it off it will take many years.
I reckon a tactical retreat makes sense else they run the risk of blowing up their plan.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

Mrs. F P went to pay for petrol at our local Sainsburys this morning and genuinely forgot her face nappy; “Haven’t you got a mask?” was the friendly greeting.
“No I’ve mislaid it” was my wife’s reply, “Well you will have to go outside and pay at the “leper’s” window, then” was the reply, “Well, I’m facing you at the cash desk right now” my wife retorted.
A “face off “then ensued for a few seconds before common sense won out and sanity returned.
Good start to the day!!

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

Ha ha nearly got your fuel for free

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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago

https://computingforever.com/2020/05/29/digital-immunity-passports-are-coming/

DIGITAL IMMUNITY PASSPORTS ARE COMING (Dave Cullen 29th May 2020)

https://v-healthpassport.co.uk/
V-Health Passport “The People’s passport”

[Notice how they call something “the people’s….” when it’s being imposed on the people, whether they want it or not, and pretend it’s a good thing.]

“Introducing the V-Health Passport™
The ‘digital health passport’ & ‘contact tracing’ platform created using VST Enterprises revolutionary patented VCode® and VPlatform™ technology.

The V-Health Passport™ is a simple to use I.D system that can display various health status’ about the passport holder in the most secure way.

VHealth Scan permissions also allow other items to be viewed from the issued Passport such as travel and event tickets.

Once the public user has registered their details via the V-Health Passport™ portal or mobile phone application (available on both Android and iOS), they can request an appointment with their nearest test centre (over 250 to choose from) via the V-Health Platform™.”

https://www.verdict.co.uk/vst-enterprises/
Coronavirus digital health passport to be supplied to 15 countries
Ellen Daniel
11th May 2020 (Last Updated June 12th, 2020 14:23)

“Manchester-based cybersecurity firm VST Enterprises has signed a deal with digital health company Circle Pass Enterprises (CPE) to create a digital health passport designed to “manage a safe return to work, life, and safe travel” after the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic.

The two companies have partnered to create “the world’s most secure digital health passport”, known as Covi-pass, and according to VST Enterprises, are committed to working with governments and “major stakeholders” to deploy the technology.

CPE will ship the digital health passports to 15 countries around the world, including Italy, Portugal, France, Panama, India, the US, Canada, Sweden, Spain, South Africa, Mexico, United Arab Emirates and The Netherlands, with the goal of supplying 50 million digital health passports. The first passports will begin shipping from next week.

VST Enterprises’s VCode and VPlatform technologies will be integrated into the Covi-pass to ensure it is secure.”

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  LMS2

It’s ALL about the MONEY.

Population Management is MONEY and a private prison system at the centre of it.

WAKE UP!

Worldwide Day of Protest — #IDoNotComply

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Freddy Freethinker
Freddy Freethinker
4 years ago

This chap should be the new covid-19 official spokesman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5xndXDowRs

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago

This is just the start – the impact of the economic destruction is going to be massive…..
.

Outrage as hundreds of desperate homeless people are forced to queue in the snow for hot food in Glasgow as temperatures plunged to -14C

However, charities are warning things will get even worse for those struggling to make ends meet when lockdown ends, with soup kitchens now facing unprecedented demand for handouts. 

The number of people regularly using the service has almost doubled since the start of the pandemic – with Covid forcing families who had stable homes and businesses into poverty.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9253051/Outrage-hundreds-forced-queue-snow-hot-food-amid-14C-temperatures.html

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

So in the spring all the homeless were put into hotels as one was afraid they would all catch covid sleeping in tents and door ways.
Now we let them freeze to death.
In Hamburg, Germany, 13 died so far this winter. ok, some do not want to be housed.

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EssieSW
EssieSW
4 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

It is the language the media use that keeps sheeple fearing ‘the virus’.

The pandemic and covid have not forced families into poverty – lockdown restrictions and businesses not being allowed to operate have.

Last edited 4 years ago by EssieSW
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The Filthy Engineer
The Filthy Engineer
4 years ago

This is what you can expect the “vaccination passport” to be integrated into if you are concerned about mission creep

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-uk-digital-identity-and-attributes-trust-framework/the-uk-digital-identity-and-attributes-trust-framework

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Dame Lynet
Dame Lynet
4 years ago
Reply to  The Filthy Engineer

Oh dear, not at all sinister.

Yet another creepy-looking Matt, with the potential to be as punchable as the one we have come to know and loathe.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  The Filthy Engineer

It’s all a shakedown racket by Big Pharma while they also experiment technologies on CHILDREN for a not very dangerous virus .

SICK!

This is the GREATEST CRIME in the history of the world.

And our current monarch is a TRAITOR to the British people and our future King is a TRAITOR to the British people.

SHAME ON HIM!

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Harry Chara
Harry Chara
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Off with their miserable heads

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String
String
4 years ago
Reply to  The Filthy Engineer

So loss of physical documents can lead to identity fraud, – well what do they suppose happened when Israel’s biometric database was hacked (7 million records)? or India’s massive data breach encompassing most of the country & IDs were traded on WhatsApp for a couple of £? (over 1 billion records)? good grief.

Still at least there appears to be a survey so you can give your thoughts (a few minutes of your life you probably won’t get back!)

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  The Filthy Engineer

Bliar’s plans all coming true, he wanted this many years ago, who would have thought it may come to fruition with a tory government.

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The Filthy Engineer
The Filthy Engineer
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

Tory in name only. I see nothing more than a lighter shade of red.

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  The Filthy Engineer

I agree, although I actually think quite a dark shade of red!

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

A shitty brown colour.

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
4 years ago
Reply to  Edward

Definitely looks Brown on a shirt ! Oh hang on that’s been done !

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TheOriginalBlackPudding
TheOriginalBlackPudding
4 years ago
Reply to  The Filthy Engineer

As ever, they give utterly disingenuous examples to make it appear so beneficial.

Still, with the economy going down faster than a whore’s drawers they won’t be able to pay the software development costs.

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TheClone
TheClone
4 years ago
Reply to  The Filthy Engineer

And this is how freedom dies! Welcome to Prison Earth!

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mhcp
mhcp
4 years ago

Remember how the impact statement on the SIs said “no impact assessment has been made”

Whitty and Vallance: “No impact or cost benefit analysis has been done”

Well dickheads the economy just phoned – you fucked it completely.

Worst drop in 300 years!

Gordon Brown couldn’t even pull off that scale of catastrophe. Not even Normal Lamont with Black Friday.

And as has been pointed out elsewhere, they are counting PPE contracts, adverts and testing as GDP. As if this is lifting the economy.

Frederic Bastiat had it perfectly: you cannot build an economy based on destruction.

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The Filthy Engineer
The Filthy Engineer
4 years ago
Reply to  mhcp

“And as has been pointed out elsewhere, they are counting PPE contracts, adverts and testing as GDP. As if this is lifting the economy.”

This is nothing more than a self-licking lollipop.

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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  mhcp

I could have told them last March that lockdown would fook the economy and I failed my economics A level!

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Luckyharry69
Luckyharry69
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

I saw this coming 20 years ago and I have no economics knowledge at all……..

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  mhcp

What happened 300 years ago? That other great exercise in mass hysteria and fraud The South Sea Bubble

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

spot on. its a regular occurrence. humans go mad. tulipmania, WW1, coronapanic, medieval dancing plagues

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crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Isaac Newton allegedly said that he could “calculate the motions of the heavenly bodies, but not the madness of people.” Yet he was caught out too.

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  mhcp

They don’t care though

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JayBee
JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  mhcp

Minus 10%GDP with plus 20% gov. debt/GDP equals minus 30%GDP.
The replacement of productive tourism with useless testing forms a part of that within.
And as the government sector shrank zero, it means that the private sector shrank 20% incl. the gov.debt increase financed subsidies, and 60% without them.
That’s the real cost of lockdown, and the real size and distribution of the damage and the dimension of the task to rebuild.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Northumbria Police admit that they are cowards

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-56039285

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B.F.Finlayson
B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Covid regulations allow police to issue fines for organised gatherings but the rules do not apply for crowds consisting of individual households.

Cleveland Police Insp Tony Cross said: “It’s taking up a lot of resources.”

“You can see we’re outnumbered,” he added.

Ha, ha, ha, ha!! Priceless stuff. It only takes one snowball of dissent and it will lead to an unstoppable avalanche of rebellion.

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landt2020
landt2020
4 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

Police do have powers to disperse crowds and fine or arrest those refusing to leave, but only if they have a justifiable reason such as disorder or crime.

Very interesting that the covid regulations are not deemed a justifiable reason!

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

We all need a good laugh.

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

Bad news for the 30 people in my town who gathered on a field near the estate to release balloons. The argument that they just happened to be at the same time at the same place with balloons does not sound convincing.

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

I object to them being called pigs. Pigs are intelligent animals with no malice in their characters.

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

excellent

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

Filth! Haven’t heard that for a few years. I think you might be as old as me.

Last edited 4 years ago by WineDarkSteve
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smithey
smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

“If they’re not going to engage with us and we can’t explain and reason with them in an amicable manner we’re going to have to start taking names and addresses and issuing fines.”
Well I am not surprised that the police cannot explain the reasoning. People sledging outdoors are unlikely to get close together for long enough for the virus to spread let alone result in the sudden death of granny! It is right they had to back off and let people have some much needed enjoyment even though that is now banned in Britain.

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Harry Chara
Harry Chara
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

I hope they get more than a wake up call and sometime soon

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

At least they’re acknowledging that they’re outnumbered.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  leggy

Always worth reinforcing. 🙂

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

So how about one hundred thousand households meeting up in Trafalgar Square, say sometime about ten on Saturday week.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago

NEW – Instagram to permanently ban users that send “hate speech” in their private Direct Messages, the social media platform announced.

Another burning straw in the wind from the bonfire of our freedoms of opinion and speech stoked by the woke left.

And in practice, of course, here’s the kind of stuff that “hate speech” means:

What REALLY Got Gina Carano Cancelled

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

“If you go to the southwest desert and catch 100 red fire ants, as well as 100 large black ants, t can catch about 100 red fire ants that live in the southwestern desert and also about 100 of those large black ants, and put them in a jar, at first, nothing will happen.

However, if you violently shake the jar and dump them back on the ground the ants will fight until they eventually kill each other.

The thing is, the red ants think the black ants are the enemy and vice versa when, in reality, the real enemy is the person who shook the jar.

This is exactly what’s happening in society today:

Liberal vs Conservative
Black vs White
Mask vs Anti Mask

The real question we should be asking ourselves is who is shaking the jar and why?”

Gina Carano

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

Ain’t that the truth.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

Yes, even that kind of relatively harmless hippy nonsense mixed with fantasy about a shadowy “them” deserves not to be censored as supposed “hate speech”.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Had never heard of her previously. But good for her !

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Dartford44
Dartford44
4 years ago

Johnson is a total wanker,we all know that.Never ever a leader,a charlatan.
The war is against sage and all their policies.
The general public have no idea what is coming down the line and I am including my wife.
People have lost their liberties and rights and it is going to get worse.I understznd to some extent the idea of vaccine passports to go abroad, however,we all know they will be used to go to a football match or pub.The World has changed forever.Wwe are now run by Left wing sage who want to control us,as do any socialist party.
We need to demonstrate peacefully.

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  Dartford44

We need to stop being afraid of our neighbours and afraid of the gestapo and that includes me. Many of my friends think the same way as us, but are going along with it out of fear of being stigmatised and singled-out in their communities.

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago
Reply to  Dartford44

“.I understznd to some extent the idea of vaccine passports to go abroad,”

Why?

The manufacturers themselves say that the ‘vaccines’ neither confer immunity nor stop transmission.

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Kat
Kat
4 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

It’s also another way of taxing us and deterring us from going abroad in the first place. Will then morph into a charge on movement of any kind. We will be the equivalent of medieval serfs.

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Gtec
Gtec
4 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

It’s what you could call a ‘Greta’: a symbolic gesture that achieves nothing, but denies freedom to others.

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John001
John001
4 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

You’d probably be more immune using Fauci’s vitamin D intake (6000 IU a day, or 1.5x what the NHS says is ‘safe’) and no vaccine.

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Luckyharry69
Luckyharry69
4 years ago
Reply to  Dartford44

“Johnson is a total wanker”?…..very succinct.I cannot improve on that……..

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Luckyharry69

Johnson – total wanker !

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

BBC Headline

Covid: Man denies giving woman, 92, fake vaccine

(If you don’t believe me check it out on their ‘news’ website)

Have they finally caught up with the Pig Dictator?

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Ewan Duffy
Ewan Duffy
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

He was just doing whatever the person who administered a jab to Brenda and Phil did.

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pub with no beer
pub with no beer
4 years ago

just watched delingpoles’s last podcast with Josh. very good and stay to the end for a brilliant speech by Josh.

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  pub with no beer

Not seen that yet, but a good cameo on Sky News Australia too:

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6231120593001?

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
4 years ago
Reply to  pub with no beer

Dellers is a legend 👍

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago

Washington, D.C.: Tear down this wall.

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago
Reply to  bebophaircut

Who are the insurrectionists/domestic terrorists in Washington, D.C.?

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago

This really was prescient from MUSE wasn’t it:

The paranoia is in bloom, the PR

Transmissions will resume, they’ll try to

Push drugs, keep us all dumb down and hope that

We will never see the truth around, so come on

Another promise, another scene, another

Package not to keep us trapped in greed with all the

Green belts wrapped around our minds and endless

Red tape to keep the truth confined, so come on

They will not force us

And they will stop degrading us

And they will not control us

We will be victorious, so come on

Interchanging mind control, come let the

Revolution take its toll, if you could

Flick a switch and open your third eye, you’d see that

We should never be afraid to die, so come on

Rise up and take the power back, it’s time that

The fat cats had a heart attack, you know that

Their time is coming to an end, we have to

Unify and watch our flag ascend, so come on

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

To describe Bill Gates as a philanthropist is akin to describing Dr Mengele as a Child Protection Officer

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Even disregarding character, people talk as if he is giving all of his money away: he has increased his wealth during this last year, for goodness sake!

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

indeed.

He is a ‘philanthropist’ to his own so-called non profit organisations – very tax efficient making tax deductible donations to these non profits, then control them as a normal company to pay people off, buy lots of farming land in the US, setting the pieces in place on how to control the whole world etc

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Freddy Boy
Freddy Boy
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Superb analogy 👍

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

or
Dr John Money as a Paediatrician

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Awkward Git
Awkward Git
4 years ago

Just got an answer back from the Government Legal Department about social distancing, guidelines being law and enforceable or not.

They have some very dubious reasoning to justify themselves.

I’m going to send it out to people such as laworfiction and Francis Hoar who will be very interested in what they said.

kh1485 could have fun with it against that BID woman I guess.

Here is a link to the FOI – if you are going to use it on social media or print it up for posting in your business window etc please redact my name and personal E-mail from it is all I ask.

https://1drv.ms/b/s!Agv7JEO8MngCim1MvBxQNN4zPlCV?e=yQ9RPp

Highlighting mine:

1 – the legislation that states the social distancing is a legal requirement and has the force of law and is not just “guidance”

Their answer:

The term “social distancing” is not used in legislation. However, some restrictions which form part of the concept of social distancing are included in legislation as set out below:

– The prohibition on gatherings of two or more people (unless an exemption applies) and the requirement to have a reasonable excuse to leave the house are set out in The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (All Tiers) (England) Regulations 2020 (SI 1374/2020).

The advice relating to the distance to be maintained from others (which is one aspect of social distancing) is not set out in law and is instead set out in guidance.

So does not really explain all the road and footpath closures, signs blotting the landscape and officials acting like jack-booted Nazis when dealing with businesses and the public about having social distancing signs etc in their premises, making customers wait outside and so on does it?

2 – the legislation that states anything with the words “guidance” or “guidelines” in the title is anything other than advice or a recommendation and has the force of law the allows it to be enforced if not followed.

Their answer:

There is no legislation on the legal status of guidance or guidelines. In some instances social distancing guidance advises and informs on the application of the law. Other elements of guidance are produced to inform the public, business and other organisations how they should operate to minimise the risk and spread of COVID-19. The guidance published by the government relating to the COVID-19 pandemic can be found at: https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus. It is not an offence to not comply with guidance but individuals, businesses and other organisations should act in accordance with the guidance produced. You may find this report by the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments useful in considering the relationship between legislation and guidance.

So they state that it is not an offence to comply with guidance but businesses etc should act in accordance to guidance – contradictory or what?

I’ve browsed through the report they linked to and cannot find anywhere where it states guidance must be followed as it’s law and legally enforceable.

But one interesting is section 3.3:

The Committee asked the Department for Health and Social Care to confirm that the “rules” relating to limited exercise, local travel, social distancing and shopping only for basic necessities amount to non-statutory advice or guidance that is not legally enforceable. In a memorandum published at Appendix 3, the Department confirms that this is the case. The Committee remains concerned that guidance continues to be used in the context of the emergency pandemic response in a way that appears to purport to impose more severe restrictions than are imposed by law. The “new rules” were widely reported before the Regulations were published and have been the focus of public and media attention. The Committee is concerned that many readers will not readily appreciate the distinction in rule of law terms between provisions of regulations and paragraphs in government guidance; and a statement such as “the law will be updated to reflect these new rules” is likely to add to the confusion by suggesting exact correspondence between the “rules” (which are not in fact rules but guidance) and the law. The Committee considered it important to have confirmed on the record that a number of specific provisions of the guidance, despite being described by Ministers as “rules” and using imperative language, are in fact no more than guidance , and accordingly reports the Regulations for requiring elucidation, provided in the Department’s memorandum. (their highlighting)

So even the committee overseeing the legislation says guidance cannot be enforced and ministers should stop trying to say it is law.

Can someone else have a look and let us all know what they think?

Health and Safety Executive were asked the same questions but not answered yet.

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

Great information thanks

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

What I think is that their answers are evasive gibberish and that guidance is guidance, not law

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

It isn’t all good. A law can be scrutinised in court. A guideline can’t.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Reflexive Law. Check it out.

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Pebbles
Pebbles
4 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

Doesn’t this actually sum it up nicely… it’s not law, it’s guidance, and only maintained because people perceive it as law…? Isn’t that where the hoodwinking is happening?

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John001
John001
4 years ago

Bad news & good.

Unpleasant supermarket incident 3 (1 & 2 were two very minor ones in 2020):

Cashier in Aldi, who turned out to be the manager, asked for a mask and an exemption card before I paid for the goods … I was basically refused service. I correctly said a) I don’t have one b) they’re not required. They also used the ‘private property’ argument … I don’t know if that breaches yet another law.

Mildly positive: the GP has agreed to do a vitamin D blood test in early March. Last year they seemed sceptical that anyone needed more than the NHS ‘micro-intake’ (400 IU a day) and anyway a Mar 2020 test wasn’t possible.

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Lili
Lili
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

How did the Aldi trip conclude then? Don’t leave us hanging!

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John001
John001
4 years ago
Reply to  Lili

I politely walked out and left the goods behind (only £3, as it was a top up shop; I visit Lidl Mondays for that). Being an ‘oldie’ I don’t carry recording equipment. An e-mail will go to the CEO this evening.

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John001
John001
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

I mean that I visit Lidl for a normal £25-30 trolley-load of shopping.

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Lili
Lili
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

I carry the printed out government exemptions list with me. Never had to use it yet.

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Edward
Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  Lili

I wear the blue badge with white text from the government website, and carry a copy of the Law or Fiction guide to mask exemptions, though I’ve never had a need to bring out the latter.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

Might be worth borrowing a mobile phone, and pulling it out and switching it on when refused service ?

“I’m recording this for use in court” can work wonders.

(Our local Aldi has been good throughout, except for one bottom-feeder on a checkout, who a quick word with the manager soon sorted out. Whereabouts is yours, John001 ?).

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

Go back and fill a trolley next time you need to fill up the freezer.

They can’t put frozen food back in the freezer.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

Good tip !

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

I had a very similar bad experience in Aldi a week after they hitched their wagons to PHE last month. My letter went to the CEO and got a lengthy reply. Will never darken their doors again. One less leper in there is what they want after all.

https://dailysceptic.org/2021/01/19/latest-news-259/#comment-366905

https://dailysceptic.org/2021/01/29/latest-news-269/#comment-386089

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Victoria
Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

They can ban you from a private property if you are out of control or similar but if they refuse to serve you when you are exempt they are discriminating against you – similar too refusing to serve you if you are black.

You absolute must report this to their head office. ALWAYS film these incidents so that you have proof – stay calm and constructive

Imperative to vote with your feet – do not support companies like this.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

Stick to your guns, John. Aldi bullies need taking down a peg. Or hanging out to dry on one.

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katz
katz
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

You could make one of these:

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Two-Six
Two-Six
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

Next time go in there fill up with a sack load of crap get the muppet to ring it through and then say oh sorry I forgoten my methods of payment you bitch.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Two-Six

that’s actually quite a good idea for a sabotage: especially if a whole gang of saboteurs went in at the same time, and especially if they went for the frozen foods – you could wipe out that store’s profits for the day

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peter-
peter-
4 years ago

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/12/sage-scientists-seeking-five-minutes-fame-must-reined-pontificating/

Nice to see some critique of the SAGE committe finally, only taken 11 months.

As I have always maintained, they are the biggest problem and without them we would never have been locked down and the whole situation would have played out exactly as it has done in Sweden.

One issue with the article is it gives that vile little weasle (apologies to weasles everywhere) John Edmunds a completely free pass. On balance I feel he is the absolute worst of the lot of them on SAGE, which when you factor in the likes of Whitty, Vallance, Van Tam, Michie, Ferguson etc, is quite an achievement. Not one to be proud of but an achivement nonetheless.

I do wonder what will become of these SAGE members when the lies, crimes and human rights abuses of the last year are laid bare and people finally realise what has been done to them.

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  peter-

Probably not much. Ferguson seems to just keep getting invited back regardless of what he does. I expect one of them, probably Van Tampax or Twitty, will be made a patsy by the government (assuming all this ever ends).

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peter-
peter-
4 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

The Govts, plan to hang people out to dry is so obvious, you wonder how supposedly intelligent men like Van Tam and Whitty can’t see what is going on. Vallance appears to have some brains as he is cashing in pharma shares and will do a Reggie Perrin as soon as he can.

When I said what will become of them my thinking was more how they get on with their lives. Ferguson must know he is going to be in danger every time he walks down the street from now on, will come across the wrong person sooner rather than later.

On this never ending it has been my fear for so long, but I do feel there is light starting to appear. Given we now even have David Blunkett on our side (not that he can see the light…sorry, cheap shot but fun to type) it must be a good sign.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  peter-

They’ll all move to ‘useful idiot’ hotels in New Zealand. Where a surprising fate might well await them.

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RickH
RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  peter-

I totally agree with you re. SAGE.

But they would have no purchase without the government, who appoint them and choose to listen to them.

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
4 years ago
Reply to  peter-

Funny I was thinking only this morning that Edmunds is perhaps even more vile and despicable than Ferguson, especially at the moment,

And also that they both look like mangy skinny weasels.

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peter-
peter-
4 years ago
Reply to  A. Contrarian

It takes a certain “type” to dedicate a career to a lab or mathematical models.

Both 100% virgins as well.

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suitejb
suitejb
4 years ago

Having just declined the offer of a jab without any problem I wondered if it’s possible to find out how many people are refusing to have the vaccine. Anyone know?

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Lili
Lili
4 years ago
Reply to  suitejb

I’ve refused it.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  Lili

Good

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Luckyharry69
Luckyharry69
4 years ago
Reply to  suitejb

when we are all in the same internment camp together we can count the numbers?

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago
Reply to  Luckyharry69

What if the guards refuse to take it?

Who guards the guards?

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  Luckyharry69

Haha yes

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Bugle
Bugle
4 years ago
Reply to  suitejb

Let’s just say the regime is getting worried. A few days ago, over 70s were told not to wait for a letter, just phone for an appointment. This morning, the DM reported that the regime were going to write to over 65s. Yesterday, our dear leader claimed to be ‘missing’ two million people who need to be invited to get their jabs – Vaccine-Hesitancy Nurses with baseball bats are on their way. Large numbers of “BAME” people, are said to be “vaccine hesitant”. Good for them, say I.

Three members of my family, 40 and under, have got short notice appointments – obviously to get rid of the stuff before it becomes un-useable. I am also informed that if a young person waits until the end of the day and turns up unannounced at a jabbing-centre, they’re likely to give them the shot there and then.

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suitejb
suitejb
4 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

I had a text I ignored then a phone call from my surgery. Husband got a phone call from surgery and a letter today even though he’s having the jab on Sunday. They’re very keen! As I’m not having it I feel we’re doing our own little experiment!

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Bugle
Bugle
4 years ago
Reply to  suitejb

Keep us updated.

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Bugle
Bugle
4 years ago
Reply to  Bugle

Nor would I.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  suitejb

Yes I was wondering that too. I hope it’s a lot

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  Janette

Yesterday there was mention of “hunting” the 2 million over 70’s ( I believe) so even if that is replicated over the age ranges it is quite a few not having the vaccine. There was also the % given as to how many NHS and care home workers refusing the vaccine so although not specific published figures, I imagine it is not a small number.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  suitejb

Not sure if it helps any, but the Beeb posted this today in connection with how many BAME have supposedly not taken the vaccine. I’m carefully saying ‘not taken’ as opposed to ‘declined’ as I can’t be sure if the non-takers did decline, or just haven’t had it.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

My dog has no nose

Really? How does he smell

He doesn’t he’s got covid

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Basics
Basics
4 years ago

This is the Friday evening headline from Edinburghlive

“Hero Midlothian worker gritted street for mum whose son has brain cancer in case of emergency
“The kind-hearted worker even sanitised the vehicle to allow five-year-old Lyle to sit at the gritter’s wheel”

Well done to the gritter guy and good luck and best wishes to Kyle and his mum.

The subheading strapline says so much about where we are in 2021 – laced with propaganda. Instead of being a story about a kind act for a hardy wee soul readers are treated to venomous spin. This kind of thing is where the nation is ground down. Where the kindest of things is exploited into a managed risk warning complete with bogus hero.. He did a kind and generous thing, does that make a hero these days?

If we are in a real pandemic is this the sort of thing a mum lets a kid do, even with the best antibac wipes going.

There’s something I find especially draining about this, good people doing their absolute best for all the right reasons yet being restricted by covid fearing and propaganda.

Perhaps I am just miserable, I thought it a particularly illustrative example of where we are.

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Dermot McClatchey
Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Basics

Mawkish sentimentality and totalist brutality are two sides of the same coin.

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TheClone
TheClone
4 years ago

It was never about any virus! The lockwdowns and vaxxs are just a psyops prep for the coming digital ID! Enslaving the earth for the benefit of few!

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

China have a head start:

Exposing China’s Digital Dystopian Dictatorship – China is marrying Big Brother to Big Data. Every citizen will be watched and their behaviour scored in the most ambitious and sophisticated system of social control in history.

https://youtu.be/eViswN602_k

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TheClone
TheClone
4 years ago
Reply to  leggy

When China leads the UK, US and EU will follow! For the benefit of people, nothing personal!

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

You can check your social credit score here:

https://abcfinance.co.uk/blog/surviving-the-social-credit-score/

Unfortunately, it’s the gulag for me.

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isobar
isobar
4 years ago

Another article about infection dropping in the Daily Fail. Second day in a row that they have called out SAGE members. I think that it was ‘Doomsters’ or suchlike yesterday. Today they are described as ‘Doom mongering’. Maybe I had too long a chat with Jack Daniels last night and I could be completely wrong. But I do think that what with Charles Walker telling Bojo to rein in Wancock and Schlepps, the semi-conversion of Professor Pantsdown today to ‘save summer’, and that SAGE members are now being derided, the stage might be being set for Bojo the ‘vaccine hero’ to say that he has overridden his errant Secretary’s of State and SAGE in his plan to open up. But then again it might be just wishful thinking!

“More proof Britain WILL be able to ease lockdown from March 8? Symptom-tracking app predicts daily Covid cases will fall to 3,000 when schools re-open in levels similar to last June – as ONS says number of infections has dropped 31% in a fortnight”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9253365/Symptom-tracking-app-predicts-Covid-prevalence-fall-85-000-infected-day-schools-open.html

A best rated comment that attracted 90 upticks caught my eye, illustrating what some DM readers think about Professor Pantsdown

“In shock announcement, SAGE said they had identified a new variant. Known, as the Winklesham-on-Sea, variant, named such because Ferguson said so, it is feared that this mutation will be communicable up to 36 miles away. Ferguson said that the absence of any symptoms whatsoever is a sure way of diagnosing infection. Wearing four masks including whilst sleeping may help, Ferguson said.”

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Even if they ‘open up’ for the summer, they will lock right back down in the autumn. The genie is long out of the bottle.

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  jb12

I certainly think that is the intention of some – I suspect what is causing sleepless nights in Westminster is whether a summer release is too risky, because once the sheep are out of the pen they may not want to go back in so easily.

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

I think you may be right, I have noticed a change in the wind lately; the ever present stink from the direction of the SAGE slaughterhouse and the Government gasworks seems ever so slightly diluted by a fresh breeze. There has, for example, been open talk of reduced case numbers in the news for the first time I can remember.

I think some in HMG are getting squeaky bottoms about the growing levels of anger in the press, particularly about hols being uncertain, and have finally decided to a. start making ever so slightly optimistic noises about coming out of lockdown and b. start distancing themselves from SAGE in order for them to be thrown to the wolves if the public mood turns nasty.

Of course I could be wrong and it could all just be another feint to keep compliance going, but Bozo’s ‘Big Announcement’ and the Budget are both looming, with the May elections not far behind. Unless they come up with a new ‘doomsday weapon’ to scare the masses with, they are going to gradually lose more and more support.

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Why have they only just noticed that infections are falling? Makes me feel more and more like I’m living on a different planet….

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  A. Contrarian

My guess is a lot of sources hold off on mentioning any good news for as long as possible. Another reason could be that now that Davos has finished, the globalists’ warrant officers and NCOs have received their orders and are now beginning manoeuvres.

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isobar
isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  A. Contrarian

Like all the online MSM they will post articles that they think will attract the most clicks. The best rated readers comments on lockdowns have been increasingly negative of late. That tells me more than opinion polls. What seems to be really pissing people off is the inability to plan anything, whether it’s holidays, weddings or anything else. Add to that the ‘masks are forever’ crap. I really do think that the public mood is changing.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

too little, too late

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frankfrankly
frankfrankly
4 years ago

Comment from the excellent American Tom Woods about Florida and its governor-a proper politician who shows some courage:

A report in the Miami Herald two days ago suggested that the Biden Administration was considering a travel ban to Florida, supposedly to prevent further spread of the UK variant of the virus.

But now ABC Channel 10 in Miami is reporting: “The Biden administration confirmed there is no plan nor consideration of a travel ban to quell the spread of the COVID-19 UK variant, despite a news report hinting that there is one.”
So was it in fact a phony story? Was it real, but Biden’s people walked it back? Or are they being dishonest about not considering a travel ban? I have no idea.
I do know that Ron DeSantis, governor of Florida, shot back against the idea.
“It would not be based in science,” he said of such a policy. “It would purely be a political attack against the people of Florida.”

And he knows the numbers:

“It’s unclear why they would even try talking about that. Just look at the COVID situation in the state of Florida. Just since December, the last couple months, Florida’s cases per capita compared to the rest of the country: 28th. Twenty-seven other states higher per capita cases, and for the entire pandemic it’s a similar story. Hospitalizations per capita over this time period, Florida ranks 30th. Twenty-nine other states have higher per-capita hospitalizations. Fatalities per capita for this same period, Florida ranks 42nd. Forty-one states have higher per-capita fatalities. So since December 1, well over half the country has seen much worse COVID results than here in Florida.

“But all you have to do, too, is just look at some of the trends. ED visits for COVID-like illness, down 60 percent in Florida over the past 30 days. That’s the number-one indicator for COVID spread. Hospitalized patients are down about 35 percent in Florida statewide over the last three weeks.”

With numbers like that, Florida is obviously an embarrassment to the corrupt and deranged “public health” establishment. I would not at all put it past them to try to harm Florida.

“If anyone tries to harm Floridians or target us,” DeSantis concluded, “we will respond very swiftly.”

I am not a fan of politicians, but in this situation you’d better believe I’m cheering for this guy.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  frankfrankly

Looks like the Clown administration is using the same shabby media briefing tactics that the UK government does. Float a story in MSM to gauge response, then proceed or not based on the response.

Excellent work from DeSantis to tell Biden to shove it where the sun doesn’t shine.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

They too late to the game with the scare tactics. The UK Gov got in early and kept it on,they are reaping the benefits now. People gagging for more lockdown

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  frankfrankly

Wish we could clone him and have one here in Cretinigulag Wales. They can feed Dungford to the dugongs.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  frankfrankly

Circle back

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String
String
4 years ago
Reply to  frankfrankly

He’s great. There was obviously a bit of fanfare with the recent Super Bowl being in Florida, and people were banging on to him about masks. His response – can’t drink beer with my mask on now, can I? great stuff. 🙂

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Just substitute the word vaccine for spam

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2hwqlw

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Awkward Git
Awkward Git
4 years ago

I compaianed to the DHSC about SAGE members and Government advisors spouting rubbish in interviews and then not supplying any evidence to back up their claims when asked.

Their reply:

“Thank you for your correspondence of 4 January about the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies. I have been asked to reply. 

I should explain that the Freedom of Information Act only applies to recorded information such as paper or electronic archive material. As your correspondence asked for general information, rather than requesting recorded information or documentation, it did not fall under the provisions of the Act. 

The Act does not cover unrecorded information that officials may remember, opinions that officials might have, official advice (apart from past advice the Department of Health has given, where a record of this has been kept) or requests for an official policy statement (again, apart from past policy statements, where a record has been kept). ”

But “The Department is, however, continuing to record all the correspondence that it receives so that it is able to track the main issues being raised by the public. ” So all simillar complaints to them are welcome so they know it’s an issue.

My answer:

“So basically your reply is that it is OK for individuals to flaunt their SAGE membership and credentials to spout ant old, unmitigated, unscientific, unprovable twaddle as “fact” in media interviews but they are not accountable nor required to prove what they say are fact as they would if they had spoken as “official Government spokesperson”.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

Good work.

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awildgoose
awildgoose
4 years ago

US CDC throwing more mask feces at the wall:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/02/11/cdc-wear-masks-anytime-you-are-indoors-or-outdoors-with-people-you-dont-live-with/

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FerdIII
FerdIII
4 years ago

Petiton to make mandatory vaxx poison passports or vaxx IDs illegal.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/569957

Shove the genomic changing RNA up thy fetid hole.

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mattghg
mattghg
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Waiting for 19 days for a government response.

Come on guys, let’s get it up to 100,000 signatures!

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  mattghg

its 89,000 now.

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mattghg
mattghg
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

It was ~85,500 when I signed at about 10:00 today. We can do this!

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  mattghg

from the website

“Find out about the temporary suspension of petition debates“

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

91,186 now. Long time to midnight.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Signed. Much more strongly worded than the last one of these in a similar vein.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

petitions do sweet FA
signed anyway
why not

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Going on for 90,000 now. At 100,000 the parliamentary poodles have to sniff at it. For what that’s worth.

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

91,766 at 20.49 this evening. Nearly there.

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EllGee
EllGee
4 years ago
Reply to  FerdIII

Another 4,000+ since I signed this morning. Keep at it, folks

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Two-Six
Two-Six
4 years ago

I went past my local jabadabbadoo centre about half an hour ago. I must say it really isn’t what you would call a hive of activity. I looked pretty deserted in fact.

Not the festival of jabbery that the lying government would have us believe….

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  Two-Six

Maybe the jabathon has hit the wall?

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  leggy

God let’s hope so

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
4 years ago
Reply to  Two-Six

My local Pfizer branch appeared to be 100% empty last weekend.

The AZ side of the business seemed to be doing slightly better however…

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awildgoose
awildgoose
4 years ago

Well done to these two Brits:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/02/12/makes-you-proud-to-be-british-covid-cops-catch-couple-having-outdoor-sex-on-coldest-night-for-26-years/

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Basileus
Basileus
4 years ago

Investigation: MP’s and SAGE heavily invested in Vaccine industry
https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/02/12/mp-and-sage-members-heavily-invested-in-vaccine-industry/

The UK Government is on a mission to vaccinate the entire population of the UK with an experimental gene therapy. Their supposed reasoning is to protect us all against a “deadly” virus. But that just isn’t the case, the resulting disease statistically kills only 0.2% of those it infects and the majority of those deaths are aged over 85 and have underlying health conditions.

So the question remains, ‘Why does the Government and it’s scientific advisors so desperately want to vaccine every man, woman and child in the United Kingdom?’.

Well ‘The Daily Expose’ investigated by following the money, and this is what we found…

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mikewaite
mikewaite
4 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

Pleae read – difficult not to come to the conclusion that there is a shocking level of corruption in the ministers and advisors of this Govt.

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
4 years ago
Reply to  Basileus

https://www.zoeharcombe.com/2020/11/sage-conflicts-of-interest/

This information has been out there for months

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago

Apparently the BofE has said the economy is like a coiled spring and it will power forward when lockdown ends.

I disagree – there will be some bounceback but many will be in fear of their jobs and we will all be waiting for the winter lockdown whether it comes or not. If SAGE are to be believed, its masks and social distancing for years – no theatre, no festivals, pubs and restaurants with the life sucked out of them.

We will be counting the dead children in developing countries – malaria, dengue, diarrhea, starvation – all predicted to increase massively due to the economic effect of the lockdown and will dwarf either covid deaths or covid deaths ‘avoided’ from whatever spurious model you want to use. International development set back 30 years.

There is a way out though. Prosecute those that called for lockdown and made it happen. This will give us ‘closure’ and give the confidence that it won’t happen again. We can go back to the normal pandemic response plan. We can strengthen the constitution so our rights cannot be taken away on a whim with barely a debate in parliament. Prosecute for malfeasance in office, for panic-mongering, for advocating the removal of rights – the most hateful hate speech of all. Make the laws and apply them retrospectively if necessary.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

The work from home Neo Liberals have buckets of spare cash now due to the pandemic
They should be taxed until they squeak via a work from home tax and that dosh given to bankrupted small businesses

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

I would asset strip completely anyone who has advocated lockdown – in parliament, SAGE, on twitter. Everyone. They wanted to strip me of my rights and I want them stripped of theirs.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

A tax rate of 100% for the next 10 years for all of these scumbags would very quickly balance the books. They can all eat boiled masks for the rest of their lives.

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Take their houses, make them unable to access public funds as long as they live. Make it illegal for any public body to employ someone that has advocated lockdown.

The greatest stripping of human rights this country has ever seen. We either harshly prosecute or watch it happen next time there is a crisis, whether its flu, global warming or whatever else someone wants to invent

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

I agree. the penalties must be draconian. nothing else would fit the crime. for the most egregious perpetrators, there should be the death penalty. nobody who played a role should get off scot free.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

I remember Denis Healey saying he would tax the rich “Till the pips sqeaked”.
That would do for a start for the collaborating sheep.

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

I wouldn’t that far, but certainly those that profitted from dodgy contracts etc over the past year for PPE, test kits etc should be regarded in the same way that war profiteers were.

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  Crystal Decanter

Bet they would say they never agreed with the lockdown all along quicker than anything.

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

I think it would be ironic to allow their neighbours to grass them up. Maybe everyone gets stripped unless you have cast iron proof you were positively against lockdown?

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

May something like a digital ID lockdown proof passport to prove you were anti lockdown all along!

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

comments on here should suffice, emails to MP, attendance at antilockdown rallies (plenty of CCTV), going shopping without a mask etc

then you get your freedom. everyone else has to have the word ‘cunt’ tattooed on their forehead

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

except Dan Hodges. seems a bit pointless

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

love it! maybe the worst offenders could get a ‘massive cunt’ !

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

It will (might) power forward IF lockdown ends and never returns. Not when.

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Nobody2021
Nobody2021
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

I say anybody with links to the government who profited out of all this should also be investigated for potential prosecution.

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

anybody making a profit over a period of time when we are all under house arrest should just give it up. didn’t Brown do a load of ‘windfall taxes’? – there is a precedent – not that we need one

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

When you are flat on the floor, there is only one way to go: UP, but more like limp elastic band than a “coiled spring “.

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B.F.Finlayson
B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

Apparently the BofE has said the economy is like a coiled spring…

Except that it is the coiled spring of a ticking clock, with no positive economic growth to wind it up for a year. So it will be now running down, the economic rate going slower as the spring loses its stored tension and kick. Worse still, trillions of unnecessary, unsustainable debt has been added to the national balance sheet, further weighing down the ever-slowing pendulum. Sooner or later the ever unwinding coil will be unable to impart energy to the pendulum, and the clock will stop.

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Stephanos
Stephanos
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

I do agree for a prosecution. The penalties however should be

  1. For 631 MPs (i.e. excluding Sir Desmond Swayne and the like) total confiscation of all assets and the perpetrators and families sold into slavery for four generations. That is, only their great-great-grandchildren will be free.
  2. For all members of SAGE, NERVTAG (whatever it is called) total confiscation of all assets and the perpetrators and their families sold into slavery
  3. An extra tax on all civil servants of 20% for 10 years. For those employed in HMRC an extra 30% tax. For anyone who has worked on IR35 dismissal without redundancy and no pension.
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Mutineer
Mutineer
4 years ago

I hope everyone has seen this from the BMJ.Just a sampler-

‘How many excess deaths does it take for a chief scientific or medical adviser to resign? How long should test and trace fail the public before a minister of health or chief adviser steps down? How many lucrative contracts for unscientific diagnostic tests that are awarded to cronies or errors in education policy will lead to a ministerial sacking’?

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n314?fbclid=IwAR2i2y8HQsxiwMKr2ex1QDSiR4TWeE_jo2_SjFtWhTVXqUba9ItvauMoe_0

Last edited 4 years ago by Mutineer
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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Mutineer

Don’t cheer too soon. I scent a conviction that universal jail earlier on would have solved the problem, whoopee.

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ituex
ituex
4 years ago
Reply to  Mutineer

The responses are more interesting. The main article is a pseudo legalistic rant.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  ituex

It’s also a Starmer-esque call that we should have locked down harder and earlier. Zero Covid. Avoid. Bullshit article

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Mutineer

The responses are a blast

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TheClone
TheClone
4 years ago

Matthew Robert Warman – Minister for Digital ID
Who is voting for this prick? What is going on?
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-uk-digital-identity-and-attributes-trust-framework/the-uk-digital-identity-and-attributes-trust-framework

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  TheClone

That could well be the most sinister thing I’ve read this week and that’s saying something at the moment. Years in the planning.

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
4 years ago

A 36-year-old orthopedic surgeon in Memphis, TN just died after getting the Covid “vaccine.” It’s being called a delayed immune response to Covid. He suffered from multi-system inflammatory syndrome, a reaction in someone who has had the Covid infection weeks or months earlier and mounted a severe, delayed immune reaction. The doctor was not aware of having had Covid and had tested negative several times in the hospital, but they knew he’d been infected because he had the antibody from natural infection. So basically this young, perfectly healthy doctor recovered from a virus he wasn’t aware he’d had and then took a “vaccine” that killed him. And get this for double-speak: “This is not a reason to not get the vaccine. This is a reason to get the vaccine. Only people who have had Covid-19 have developed this life-threatening process.” Of course the article assures readers there is no evidence yet that the vaccine is responsible for his death. I’m sure that “investigation” will be akin to the recent WHO investigation in Wuhan.

Maybe, just maybe, it’s not a good idea to “vaccinate” people who already had Covid. And how about people like this doctor who had antibodies and never knew it? Crimes against humanity.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

“This is not a reason to not get the vaccine. This is a reason to get the vaccine.”

This is so outrageous that all but the most zealous Covid Cult fanatics might start to get twitchy. They would have to read it first though, which most of the collaborators won’t.

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

My jaw just actually dropped when I read “Only people who have had Covid-19 have developed this life-threatening process.”

Oh – that’s OK then! Jesus…

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davews
davews
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

There are loads of us who suspect we had Covid around the end of 2019, some with pretty severe symptoms but nobody was interested at that time. Another reason I shall say no.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  davews

The last respiratory infection I had was in November 2019, and it ticked many of the Covid boxes. I caught it in the USA.

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
4 years ago
Reply to  davews

My husband and I had a crazy dry cough in December 2019 that lasted for a month. My coughs in the past have always been of the productive type and my husband — who I’ve been with for 40 years — has never had a cough (it’s just not the way he gets sick). So I suspect we had it as well, but I’m not taking the “vaccine” under any circumstances. If it was Covid, I’ve been far sicker with other viruses in the past.

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merlin
merlin
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

Yeadon was right, covid was finished in the UK by May. The rest has been PCR scam and propaganda to sell their experimental gene therapies. Also explains why they never mention t cells.

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isobar
isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  merlin

Of course he was, which is why he got taken out.

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jos
jos
4 years ago
Reply to  davews

I was one of them and I actually googled it and asked people wtf this awful bug was that was going around but 🦗

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davews
davews
4 years ago
Reply to  jos

Followed by bouts of nettle rash which is now known to be a side effect of Covid. My GP simply wasn’t interested when I showed him last March.

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  davews

I know a chap not far from here, once a friend and employer, who was ill and coughing so badly for a month after Christmas 2019 that he had numerous visits to the GP because I think he thought he had something life threatening. He also gave up drinking because he said he couldn’t taste it anymore. He began to feel a bit better in February so went on a ski-ing trip to the French Alps. A week or so after he returned, the global panic set in, he pulled up the drawbridge and laid me off. My declared scepticism didn’t help matters and now we are as strangers. Pity really but I should have recognised the cut of his jib when he used to tell me how the BBC and Guardian were all anyone should rely upon for impartial national and international news coverage.

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merlin
merlin
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

Vallance and co are in deep shit. Injecting these gene therapies in to millions despite knowing a large percentage of those have already recovered from the actual virus. These fuckers only mention antibodies , t cells are ignored. War crime trials are coming.

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Awkward Git
Awkward Git
4 years ago
Reply to  merlin

Some good stuff about it on UKColumn today.

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merlin
merlin
4 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

Thanks. Prion disease…. bloody hell.

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
4 years ago

Probably like many others I keep getting emails about booking a holiday. I’ve just received one from TUI for the summer of 2022. Obviously they have written off the summer of 2021.

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stewart
stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

That’s how desperate they are for cash. Lots of fabulous deals for early booking, no doubt.

I would feel sorry for them if it wasn’t for the fact that they going to be enthusiastic collaborators with governments in imposing vaccine passports and other surveillance.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

The Dictatorship and the press announce the worst economic performance for 300 year

Not one of them it would appear have asked the quite pertinent question ‘What happened 300 years ago?”

The answer is The South Sea Bubble an exercise in mass hysteria and fraud

I understand the finances of the country did not recover for 50 years

Have any of these people ever picked up a book?

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

“What’s a book?“

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Don’t forget the Black tulips in the Netherlands.

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DJ Dod
DJ Dod
4 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

Do you mean ‘tulips of colour’?

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  DJ Dod

Yes, sorry about that.

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

I thought the big crash 300 years ago was caused the Great Frost of 1709, when pretty much the entire British economy stopped for about three months.

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jos
jos
4 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

A solar minimum just like now.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Was it the South Sea Bubble or the Great Frost, 1709 (I think)?

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
4 years ago

Covid would never say where it came from
Yesterday don’t matter if it’s gone
While the sun is bright
Or in the darkest night
No one knows
Covid comes and goes

Latest NHS dashboard figures show total ‘covid’ patients in NHS England Hospitals drops below 20,000, deaths are down, +ve tests (infections/cases) are down, R rate drops below 1 everywhere. The sun is shining and we have just been for a walk, stopped and happily chatted to various people. You cannot scare all the people all the time.
My family tell me I am ludicrously over-optimistic but could it be that we are seeing this virus slipping away? I am ever hopeful.

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Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

It’s a cold – it will always be around
If they stopped testing there would be no issue and flu would be back where it belongs

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
4 years ago

Does anyone feel like this last week has been spent testing the public appetite for Covid Zero-style restrictions – and it hasn’t gone down well? Or am I just being too hopeful?

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  A. Contrarian

Even the public health fucktards must know what’s happening in developing countries – they must read WHO and WFP and UN documents. Some of them must be thinking ‘whats the way out of this?’. Some must have realised they are complicit in a mass killing. What would you do in the same situation? Plough on or try and pivot while not losing face?

I would probably have some integrity commit suicide. But then I wouldn’t have done it in the first place

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mattghg
mattghg
4 years ago
Reply to  A. Contrarian

I was thinking the same thing.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  A. Contrarian

Shapps’ shenanigans yesterday were definitely in this vein, and went down like a lead balloon. He did our job for us without us having to lift a finger.

Last edited 4 years ago by Richard O
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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Yep.

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isobar
isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Same with Edturds and ‘Masks forever’

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  A. Contrarian

I am hopeful the 1922 have told the PM it’s put Wancock and co in their places or they 1922 will move against the PM.

They have given him until 22nd Feb to make his decision so his road map will provide the answer. What do I think he will do, sit on the fence and try to please both sides, will the 1922 fall for it I don’t know.

Last edited 4 years ago by Cumbriacracked
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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

Johnson needs to throw SAGE under a bus. We can deal with him later

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

I agree, I do think he will throw many under a bus to protect himself and yes he can be dealt with at a later date. I do think there will be many buses though and lots of people throwing eachother under them to protect their power bases. The carrot from the 1922 will be he keeps his job for the moment.

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Ewan Duffy
Ewan Duffy
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

Will they be wine box buses that he painted himself 😉

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  Ewan Duffy

But not bendy ones.

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John001
John001
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

Except for Robert Dingwall who in interviews I’ve watched has talked good sense. He just happens to be outnumbered by the mad psychologists, of whom there are far too many.

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Achilles
Achilles
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

The 1922 have been toothless sheep. It makes no difference. Lockdown until at least Easter with slim chance of schools back a bit earlier.

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  Achilles

They have been less toothless than some.

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

Its about time the 1922 gave the government hell.

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

Let’s hope so.

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  A. Contrarian

Hmmm.

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  A. Contrarian

Definitely something in the air. That parish council chap who seems to think he’s in charge of Wales – Duckforth, or whatever his name is, was in a rather conciliatory mood on Talk Radio this morning. Rather different from his ‘everything will close’ hectoring of a few months ago.

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
4 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

Not heard much about him lately, good to hear that he’s toning it down a bit.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  A. Contrarian

If I never heard anything from that wrinkly little cretin ever ever again, it would be too soon.

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I’m very sorry that you live under that man’s jurisdiction but, if this tyranny ever ends, he’ll vanish in a cloud of noxious smoke. Not quite as good as seeing his head on a spike at Traitor’s Gate with all the other shits but it’ll do as long as we never see him or his like again except in our most nightmarish dreams.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago

It’s high time Europe’s lockdown rebellion spread to Britain
By
Sonia Elijah
February 12, 2021
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/its-high-time-europes-lockdown-rebellion-spread-to-britain/

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B.F.Finlayson
B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

Most people came to Ms Elijah’s conclusion last summer, if not before. The fact TCW comes out with such an oily article at this stage illustrates how these arrogant, detached elite ‘observers’ must be panicking as the tide begins turning.
The C19 hoax cannot last much longer, the flu figures are now coming down regardless of masks, lockdowns, vaccines or social distancing (just as they do EVERY year). Vicarious websites such as TCW have suddenly felt the chill wind, and they are struggling to put themselves on the right side of history after almosy a year of fence sitting and propping up their Tory MP pals.
A great wrong has been perpetrated on the British people, and this must be corrected.

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jcd
jcd
4 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

It is obvious that you know nothing about TCW website and have just had a knee-jerk reaction to the name!

In contrast to your claim of fence-sitting, TCW has been one of the few sites that has consistently been sceptical of the government’s claim of a pandemic. There has been no ‘arrogant detached observing’ as you would know if you had bothered to read any of the articles posted on it. Indeed, LS would not post links to the site as much as it does if any of your criticism was accurate.

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davews
davews
4 years ago
Reply to  jcd

Yes, TCW is one of the sites I visit every day. Has good and bad days but by and large very supportive of sceptics and the conservative is with a very small ‘c;.

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B.F.Finlayson
B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago
Reply to  jcd

just had a knee-jerk reaction to the name!

Having read, and indeed been an occasional contributor to TCW BTL discussion, on and off for some time your bland assumption of knee-jerkism is well misplaced.
For my part I don’t give a flying fish what the site is called, preferring not to judge a book (or website) by the cover or moniker, even LS! My criticism is based on TCW’s editorial flip-flopping over key issues, including C19 and Brexit, often trying to studiously avoid the bleedin’ obvious when the Tory government was clearly at fault, preferring to speculate other factors must be at play.
Yes TCW occasionally has put out some very good articles, I don’t deny this, but the one by Ms Elijah is not one of them. It is well past the sell by date and typifies why I no longer bother wasting my time with TCW’s pussyfooting narrative.
PS: LS posts ATL links to many sites, including a permanent link to the disturbing and openly discriminatory GBD, which TCW also unquestioningly championed at the time btw, so that is no kite mark of relevance or quality.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago

Michael Gove, the Brexit betrayer
By
Timothy Bradshaw
February 12, 2021
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/michael-gove-the-brexit-betrayer/

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

Much more importantly, Michael Gove the Lockdown Zealot

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isobar
isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Agree, what’s his agenda!

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

The long game. It’s getting closer, Michael.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago

I have noticed on Talk Radio they are now promoting a book by The Gates of Hell on Climate Change. Why the hell are they giving this charlatan air time???

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  Janette

Simple as that > $$$

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Will
Will
4 years ago
Reply to  Janette

Cash.

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago

300 revellers got massively drunk, hugged each other and went sledging in a park in Newcastle-upon-Tyne. What a wonderful sight. Usual disgusted comments from the brain-dead in the papers, but who cares. All the net-curtain-twitching in the world can’t hold back normal youthful exuberance.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

Great to hear. This is exactly how this ends.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

I thought this was a great thing the youngsters did. We don’t get much snow here in Newcastle so we have to make the most of it while it lasts. You only live once so good on them!

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

I hope they get drunker.
And break out of the bunker.

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

A lad by the banks of the Tyne
Said ‘don’t swallow the government line
‘Just drink lots of ale
’Ride your sledge in a gale
’And don’t pay the hundred pound fine!’

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nootnoot
nootnoot
4 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

Love hearing about people having fun

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago

Finished up the Hitchens/Hodges debate today.

The most outrageous claim I heard was that all major mental health charities state that there is no link between lockdowns and increased suicides. Having had an old pal kill himself this week, I know that to be untrue. It’s blatantly and obviously untrue. Has anyone seen such declarations from charities? I can’t find anything, but I can find plenty of stories like this:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1348996/suicide-charity-Samaritans-papyrus

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  leggy

Sorry about your friend, an all too common story. I am surprised at how many ads there are now from various charity organisations asking for money as their donations are down due to the “deadly virus”. They could have been so more proactive by saying it was the lockdown causing the financial problems and pushing for all the various fundraising events to go ahead. Sadly they have not.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  leggy

They come out with outrageous generalisations now, makes you wonder if they are promised or getting cash to keep them quiet, can’t imagine why they would make sweeping statements like that when they know many suicides are caused by isolation

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I am certain its all driven by their own greed. Every diagnosis means more ££s for their pockets.

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FenTyger
FenTyger
4 years ago
Reply to  leggy

I had to stop watching until I calmed down, it’s just not believable with the huge amount of extra stress paced on the population that there is no increase in suicides.

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  FenTyger

We’re going to have to wait for ONS suicide statistics for 2020 which, I believe, will be published in May. The delay, according to the ONS website, is because,

“Given the length of time it takes to hold an inquest, most deaths are registered around five to six months after they occurred.”

But:

  • Provisional data show there were 10.7 suicide deaths per 100,000 people in Quarter 3 (July to Sept) 2020 in England, equivalent to 1,334 deaths registered; this rate is similar to rates seen in the third quarter of previous years.
  • In the provisional Quarter 3 2020 data, there were 16.3 deaths per 100,000 males (992 deaths registered) and 5.4 suicide deaths per 100,000 females (342 deaths registered); these rates are similar to rates observed in the same quarter in previous years.
  • Whilst the provisional rates observed in Quarter 3 2020 for men and women are statistically significantly higher compared with Quarter 2 (Apr to June) 2020, this is because of the lower number of suicides registered in Quarter 2 that have subsequently been registered in Quarter 3.
  • The lower number of suicides registered in Quarter 2 2020 is likely to be caused by the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic having an impact on the coroner’s service resulting in delays to inquests.

(www.ons.gov.uk)

It looks to me as though figures could quite easily be moved about between quarters, if necessary, but unless suicide deaths get somehow mis-registered as Covid deaths (heaven forfend), they should eventually appear, even though it’ll be May 2022 before this winter’s official rate is published, by which time …

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  Steven F

I wonder how many will be listed as suicides and other added to the virus titles?

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago
Reply to  Steven F

Coroner’s are backed up (years)

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago
Reply to  Steven F

https://www.mind.org.uk/about-us/our-policy-work/reports-and-guides/

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  Steven F

As I thought: cover up and stall for time. Bastards.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago
Reply to  Steven F

Suicide stats always come out in “spring” whenever that is.

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
4 years ago
Reply to  leggy

I think it was the Samaritans that made a statement to that effect?

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Derek Toyne
Derek Toyne
4 years ago
Reply to  leggy

I watched the debate yesterday and BBC news about relatives being unable to see relatives this morning and the attitude is it’s sad but will carry on anyway. To me this smacks of psychopath and that’s what we are dealing with their don’t care about human suffering and in fact try to deny it even exists. They call us covid deniers but they worse they not only deny people are suffering they deny society is being destroyed.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Derek Toyne

I’m proud to be a covid-denier. a covid-denier is a life affirmer, a freedom and human dignity affirmer. I don’t want anything to do with their stupid death cult.

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jennybean
jennybean
4 years ago
Reply to  leggy

My best friend is a psychiatric nurse and is On her knees as they are so over run with patients and no extra funding provided. They are seeing lots of people with no previous mental probs and she’s mentioned to me in the last fortnight of teenagers who’ve succeeded in killing themselves. It’s an absolute disgrace

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Jo
Jo
4 years ago
Reply to  jennybean

My neighbour’s friend’s son in his teens hanged himself a couple of weeks ago.

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Two-Six
Two-Six
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

So that’s about 25 possibly more. I have lost count, that I have heard about now since last march, people who have killed them selves.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  leggy

Charities? Government lickspittles. Try Age Concern for example. Are they concerned about the torture if the frail elderly in care gulags? Are they hell.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  leggy

but they just make it all up to suit the agenda, don’t they….so if you are shot in the face 25 days after a PCR test, there is a link, and scam 19 goes on the death certificate, but if you drop dead within 15 minutes of a vaccine, there is no link, that is a ‘coincidence’, [or it was Scam 19 too]…this is why I don’t even bother to listen to them any more, they are blithering idiots, liars, and frauds

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awildgoose
awildgoose
4 years ago

Is anyone really surprised by the rug pull on the Aussie Open?

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/australia-imposes-5-day-lockdown-japan-approves-pfizer-jab-live-updates

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nottingham69
nottingham69
4 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

I would have been surprised if they hadn’t done this. They tried some stunts in the Cricket but the Indians said they would walk away, unless that series stayed to schedule. The Tennis authorities should scrap Melbourne, play that somewhere else. The players have been treated with disdain by a madman.

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awildgoose
awildgoose
4 years ago
Reply to  nottingham69

Modi seems to be leading a rational response to cold and flu season in India.

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Andrew K
Andrew K
4 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

With Ivermectin and HCQ widely available.

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
4 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

Zero Covid is going well so far, isn’t it? Let’s all do it.

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merlin
merlin
4 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

It’s brilliant news. Just highlights how stupid the covid zero zealots are .

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Julian
Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  merlin

Yes, any sports fans out there who think zero covid is a good idea, tell them they can expect their events to be cancelled or spectatorless at short notice, ditto everything else

In some ways what we have here now – permanent lockdown – is preferable to what they have in Aus – open up and life is normal so you plan stuff and then it all turns to shit overnight – over and over again

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Laurence
Laurence
4 years ago

French daily death numbers to 25 Jan came out today – pretty much back to normal. UK probably only a few weeks behind. Hopefully all this nonsense will stop soon !

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steve_w
steve_w
4 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

‘cases’ down to 2% of tests. slap bang in false positive territory

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ituex
ituex
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_w

And French haven’t had a lockdown. They have had curfew but during the day businesses are open.

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Achilles
Achilles
4 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

Deaths are irrelevant now. It’s positive tests, R rates and the unknown threat of mutant strains. The deaths could be zero and we’ll still have restrictions.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Achilles

Exactly the WHO came out and said mutant strains are reinfecting previous Covid infected.

Bang on q.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1360263540339331074

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Achilles

It’s all stage managed and it is about the vaccine.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Actually, the “vaccine” is just the gateway to the real goal.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

Idiot! It is ALL about the unnecessary and dangerous vaccine. Do you not read these fucking threads?

That is what they are pushing for.

It’s a shakedown racket.

Now they are pushing this on kids. WHo knows what fucking effects there will be?

How the FUCK is that going back to normal, you ignorant CUNT.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Hmm perhaps that was a tad unecessary?

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Breaking news

BBC News

Twelve UK nationals found dead in Fangdoc Province China

Chinese police announce 12 persons believed to be UK nationals found dead in suspicious circumstances

The police said that they are at the early stages of there investigation but it would appear the deceased were the victims of a people smuggling operation

The victims aged between 21 and 88 were found in the boot a silver coloured Fiat Panda that left England on 25th December

A distraught relative contacted by the BBC said ‘We is gutted. They left hoping for a better life in China and we were hoping to join them at some stage, never mind “

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Smashing! Thanks.

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Two-Six
Two-Six
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Breaking news
BBC Asia has discovered 1000’s of Britons have set up a “Little England” in North Korea, currently until they assimilate a love of the dear leader and learn to denounce The West convincingly in Korean they have been offered work in the mining industry.

1000’s of Brotons are believed to have made the journey in the back of special trains that leave a number of secret locations in Europe, many have already made the perlious journey acros the channle in inflatable boats to start their new lives.

We talked from Barry from Essex, “Well compared to Harlow it’s great! They have made a little “pub” for us, well its a sports hall and they open it once a month, they even have Carlsberg, well they call it that!”.
He quipped
“Every hour they turn down that music that they like, y’know that plinky plonky stuff and let us put one of our tunes on, well we can have The Spice Girls, Britney Spears or Slade but y’know it reminds us of ‘ome”. Said Barry.

Another Brit, Karmella Sludge from Swindon said “Well its a bit strict here but it’s OK most of the time, if they do take you away its only for a couple of weeks and you can have a good crack with the gards! They give you fags if you make em laugh!”.

Karmella’s eyes twinkled.

“They are a bit strict about wearing a face mask too”, said Karmella, looking a bit worried but she added ” but its not that bad because then you don’t need to worry about not looking happy all the time, the police can’t see your face!” She chuckled, “but at least we can go swimming and the kids can spend 17 hours in cultural re-education lessons, which gives me and my partner Dwight quality time together.

Over the next six months 10’s of thousands of Britons are expected to find new lives in North Korea as the seek a better less restrictive life-style.

by Crispin Meatus for BBC Asia

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awildgoose
awildgoose
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Mark these casualties –

“Covid-19”

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CGL
CGL
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Oh Cecil – you had me for a couple of seconds!

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Very funny you made me read that twice ya dick, exposure to anything “bbc” brings me out in a rash. I’ve got hives on my hives now

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

You are joking about this.

Because that is exactly what is going to happen.

China is going to be have much higher living standards than the United Kingdom and there will be lots of competition from highly educated Chinese people for upper middle class jobs. In then years the former middle and lower classes will be going to China to work cleaning toilets and such things, in the hope of a better life.

Life is shit now for Brits.

And the largest portion of the blame is on Baby Boomers, who are utter scum because they inherited the greatest civilisation in history and have handed fuck all onto their grandchildren.

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Awkward Git
Awkward Git
4 years ago

A few things I’ve noticed out and about this week:

  • the smaller covid testing centres seem to be getting ready to be dismantled as direction signs being turned around or removed, gates shut and locked, no-one around, looking “empty” and unused
  • the vaccination centres I’ve driven past are empty, no queues or people there waiting
  • ambulance depots have been full, many ambulances parked up and not being used and they can’t all be there due to maintenance or repair, ditto for the Falck depot I saw.
  • no ambulances queueing up at hospitals when I’ve driven past A+E departments
  • more and more people are saying they didn’t know anyone who died of covid until recently, now many seem to know someone who went to hospital for treatment of their existing disease or illness, 3 weeks later test positive for covid and are either now dead and the NHS “has killed them” or close to it and fighting to survive
  • the same demographics are doing the same idiocy as a few weeks ago but in lower numbers
  • no-one I’ve asked at companies has seen or heard of any risk assessments, been told of the hazards of mask wearing and so on but just told “to do it” but it is almost universally ignored by those who do a manual job, work making stuff, in warehouses, building stuff etc Offices it’s ignored as long as the public or bosses are not around.
  • some of the masks are disgustingly filthy and not been washed for weeks or months
  • no real effort made to social distance anymore in shops but people do seem to be a bit more politer instead of pushing past you to get to the shelf
  • people noticing that the goalposts are being continually moved and were expecting to go back to normal once over 70s had been vaccinated, now it’s all the population of the world so people waking up a bit and questioning why can we not get back to normal now the over 70s are done?
  • where are all the people going if everywhere is shut and it’s essential travel only?
  • many more in shops only have the mask over their mouth and are just “going through the motions”

And here’s an idea for the Government:

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

Thread hijack. Hi AG – an update on my complaint to the arcade manager regarding security staff insisting any non-masker had to wear a lanyard. He admits they were mistaken and no lanyard is necessary. Is going to brief them accordingly.

I posted yesterday afternoon –

https://dailysceptic.org/2021/02/11/latest-news-282/#comment-410220

– but I don’t think you were on yesterday’s posts.

Good post above btw.

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Awkward Git
Awkward Git
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

Good, you won and they backed down.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

Ah, the oral version.
Please make it rectal for Bozo, Smarmer, Wankok and Pantsdown.

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Ewan Duffy
Ewan Duffy
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Delivered by means of a red hot poker.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  Ewan Duffy

Copyright Edward II, Berkeley Castle, 1327.

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EllGee
EllGee
4 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

where are all the people going if everywhere is shut and it’s essential travel only?
Hopefully it’s the beginning of the Lockdown breakdown.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

I have seen quite a few joggers out, mostly fit youngish people, and none are doing anything stupid and self-defeating like wearing a mask.

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Awkward Git
Awkward Git
4 years ago

Got this from Experian:

From 24 March 2021 Experian ID will no longer work with government services and therefore your Experian ID account will be closed after this date.

Wonder why they are doing that?

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Awkward Git
Awkward Git
4 years ago

Anyone else noticed that the mass testing for the Kent variant is to “find out how far it has spread through the population” as they said on the news last night and not to find asymptomatic cases?

Exactly what the RT-PCR test was designed to do originally for the AIDS virus (if I remember the correct virus that is).

Also radio adverts for the over 70s to get their free “MHRA Approved” vaccination.

Is it worth complaining to ASA expalining that a”approved” means nothing a sit emergency use approval only and the vaccine is still unlicensed due to the safety data not being available until 2023 onwards?

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

Most definitely worth a formal complaint, because it is an outrageous and very dangerous lie.

Documentation such as this will be required for the trials.

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
4 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

If there’s no real life way of telling how far it’s spread (i.e. swathes of people with severe symptoms in hospital, or a noticeable increase in deaths) why does it matter?

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Bella Donna
Bella Donna
4 years ago

This government does hypocrisy so well!

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TheOriginalBlackPudding
TheOriginalBlackPudding
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

So they should – they’ve been practising for long enough!

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godowneasy
godowneasy
4 years ago

News update from Cardiff Crown Court.

Today the trial of 12 Cardiff men concluded. The accused were arrested last month when they attempted to break into Cardiff Prison. Their defence was that they were seeking freedom from ongoing lockdown and demanded to be housed within the prison walls.

Their defence lawyer urged the judge to award the maximum sentence of ten years in line with other COVID crimes. The judge refused this plea, describing it as “cowardly and reckless” in trying to escape the lockdown. They “should suffer like everyone else” he said. He sentenced them to two years with possible early release after one year subject to ongoing bad behaviour.

Their lawyer expressed his clients’ deep disappointment that they may have to return to lockdown, possibly in only twelve months, saying it could “deliver a hammer blow” to the men’s mental well-being.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  godowneasy

Dungford congratulated the judge on his determination to keep the prison population safe.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  godowneasy

I can’t tell if this is satire or not, really nowadays it’s hard to tell the difference sometimes!

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fiery
fiery
4 years ago

Things are definitely closing in for health and social care staff who don’t want to be vaccinated. I work in a housing project and my manager has been asked by HR for details of staff who haven’t been vaccinated and their reasons for declining the vaccine. I’m determined to hold out and am even thinking of giving up the job if I’m backed into a corner. I’d struggle financially but this would be the case if I accepted the vaccine and had a life changing adverse reaction and wasn’t able to work.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  fiery

Hold your nerve. If it comes to it, face them down.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  fiery

The HR request is surely a breach of GDPR. Quite how these obnoxious bullies think they can get away with this level of overreach is beyond me. Then again, we are dealing with a death cult here.

You are better than them, and you will prevail.

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Ovis
Ovis
4 years ago
Reply to  fiery

Sadly, one way or another, I think we are all going to be backed into a corner sooner or later.

My view is hardening: I think there is no escape for any of us by compromising and keeping our heads down. It won’t work. It really is a case of ‘If not now, when? If we are not for us, who will be?’

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

Very well said. This is the hill that I am prepared to die on. Literally.

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Jo
Jo
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Me too.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

This is the hill that I am prepared to assist some of them on their way to Heaven first.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

absolutely. if you can take any of them out, do it; if you can sabotage their evil operations in any way, do that too. above all, do not fear death. it’s not the worst thing that can happen to you.

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

You’ve met my wife ?

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  JohnB

Just the once. How’s her gait now?

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Tyneside Tigress 2021
Tyneside Tigress 2021
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

Agree. It’s taken as a sign of weakness, and they will keep pushing.

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

Worldwide Day of Protest — #IDoNotComply

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popo says
popo says
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

Four weeks off!

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

Support the Great Reopening.

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Chicot
Chicot
4 years ago
Reply to  fiery

Don’t give up the job. Force them to sack you and then you can sue them for breach of the Nuremburg Code.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  fiery

Make your choice, write a cease & desist asserting your decision, the rest is harassment.

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popo says
popo says
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Don’t you think creative means will then be found to dismiss ‘troublemakers’? (“Oh, it’s not because you refused a vaccine! No, you did something wrong in the course of your duties…”)

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  popo says

Yep thats the world we live in, but at least a formal letter will stop the nagging. vaccines are a personal decision, i’d never attempt to influence some ones decision ether way.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I would try to give them accurate information.

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Tyneside Tigress 2021
Tyneside Tigress 2021
4 years ago
Reply to  fiery

Hang on in there as long as you can. Don’t resign, don’t write letters, don’t say anything. It’s a private matter. Make them do the running, and force them to write to you with demands you have the vaccine or you will be dismissed.

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Tyneside Tigress 2021
Tyneside Tigress 2021
4 years ago
Reply to  Tyneside Tigress 2021

Addendum – write up notes of any conversations with your line manager(s) when you get home, and keep the notes at home (timed and dated). Be careful what you say, and to who.

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Tyneside Tigress 2021

fiery – two very sound posts from TT, I’m sure. Elaborations on my post above. Stare them down, let them make the mistakes. Commit to nothing, say very little, just ask questions and let them hang themselves.

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PompeyJunglist
PompeyJunglist
4 years ago
Reply to  Tyneside Tigress 2021

Agreed. Keep calm, collate the evidence, don’t even recognise their battlefield.

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fiery
fiery
4 years ago
Reply to  Tyneside Tigress 2021

I certainly will as I’ve no intention of going down without a fight.

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Awkward Git
Awkward Git
4 years ago
Reply to  fiery

Look at Notices of Conditional Acceptance, informed consent and things like that.

Been plenty of links on here over the months and some stuff on here:

https://www.ukmedfreedom.org/resources/covid-19-vaccine-info#Vaccine-consent

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Awkward Git
Awkward Git
4 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

I know a few people on here have said they’ve joined this union who will help:

https://www.workersofengland.co.uk/w-e-u-affiliations/

I’m looking at joining myself, just looking to see what they can do for the self-employed.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  fiery

I am preparing myself mentally for such an occurance, although I’m not front line. I think this is such a big issue, I’ll not take it on principle that they can even countenance threatening people in such ways.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  fiery

manager has been asked by HR for details of staff who haven’t been vaccinated and their reasons for declining the vaccine

I’m not a lawyer, but I’m pretty sure current legislation doesn’t allow them to ask that.

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fiery
fiery
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

It’s difficult to say and the problem is the younger staff simply accept whatever is asked of them. The housing project is ran by a charity so in other words a private company. I’m only one of three people to refuse the vaccine. They recently introduced PCR and lateral flow tests which we all have to do and this was met with hardly a murmur of dissent.

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
4 years ago
Reply to  fiery

Whether you have been vaccinated or not is entirely the business of yourself and your doctor, nobody else. HR or your bosses have no right to that information, just as soembody challenging a person exempt from wearing a facemask has no right to seproof of exemption. Just let them guess, and if they do guess, then you can play the bluffing game.

We had a similar situation a few years ago, when the large national company I work for, was persuaded that it would be a good idea to let a private company monitor the driving records of all staff who hold licences for company vehicles. On the basis that anyone could, feasilbly apply for a licence in the future, they demanded that all staff sign a consent form for this third party company (sent by the same company no less) to request licence details from the DVLA every six months and to report back to the company and offences, penalty points or medical notations on the licences. HR thought that it was a given that everyone would happily comply, although it also came with a threat that anyone failing to return the forms would be asked to explain to their line manage the reason for refusing to return it.

That was the last that we every heard of the scheme, which was rapidly dropped when the forms began to be returned, not with consent signatures but various other comments about what HR could do with their consent and who did they think they were handing over our private data (or names and addresses) to a third party without our consent.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  fiery

quite right, good for you. you wouldn’t be able to work if you were dead either

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stewart
stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  fiery

Good for you.
I wish you the best.

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crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
4 years ago
Reply to  fiery

just say “cultural differences”

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SimonCook
SimonCook
4 years ago

Just back for a walk near the river with the family and spotted these have appeared overnight.

What a great use of our council tax contributions.

council.jpg
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this is my username
this is my username
4 years ago
Reply to  SimonCook

Pure propaganda – none of it true. At the lst count they’d found 147 cases of the SA strain since OCTOBER!

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AidanR
AidanR
4 years ago
Reply to  SimonCook

Looks kinda flammable to me.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

Looks kind of light & likely to blow away without a trace at the slightest breeze.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Or prove unable to withstand several blows from an axe.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Waldorf

Shame if it fell in a garden shredder..

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

“Why are you breaking up a Covid sign with an axe?”
“Der Freiheit eine Gasse!” (“A path to freedom!”)

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

We have similar ones for Anti-Social D. They are tougher than they look. But highly kickable.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Rubbing alcohol tends to melt anything petrochemical.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Is rubbing alcohol drinkable or does it melt biology as well as petrochemistry?

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Waldorf

90% pure melts almost anything, never tried drinking it.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

LOL!

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago
Reply to  AidanR

Funny I was just thinking the same thing!

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  SimonCook

A carelessly discarded match while lighting a cigarette or pipe could cause that to go up in flames. I hope someone’s done a risk assessment.

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

Well speaking hypothetically, any awful, terrible person thinking about a disgraceful act of vandalism should bear in mind that fire is usually a bad choice, because the punishments can be pretty draconian.

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Ewan Duffy
Ewan Duffy
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

You would get less time for setting it on fire than you would for lying on Hancock’s form about what country you visited.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  Ewan Duffy

Yes. Fuck him.

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  SimonCook

I think you know what to do.

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davews
davews
4 years ago
Reply to  SimonCook

Bit close to me for comfort, has Mr Redwood had a hand in them? We have similar signs in all our shopping centres. There again our council has been spending loads of money on new food waste bins, they claim a third of the stuff in the normal recycling is food. Not in mine it isn’t, food is to be eaten…

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  SimonCook

Is that a new bin for discarded face nappies?

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Two-Six
Two-Six
4 years ago
Reply to  SimonCook

That kind of sign board is really useful for a lot of things. You can build boxes, camera cases, flying wings and lots of other things out of it. Sticking the edges together with epoxy resin then painting your creations, its very strong, durable and waterproof.
You can also find it on the end of estate agents sign posts.

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franknhonest
franknhonest
4 years ago
Reply to  SimonCook

Cover with film of paraffin and light.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago
Reply to  franknhonest

hairspray would do it and is easier to transport…..

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awildgoose
awildgoose
4 years ago

Killer Cuomo: “Murdering granny was A-OK because we couldn’t allow Trump a political victory.”

Cuomo Coverup? Aide Admits Nursing Home Data Purposefully Concealed So Feds Wouldn’t Find Out | ZeroHedge

These people are sociopaths.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

He’s a gangster. I think he’s on very thin ice. Increasing number of reports now about the care home cover up.

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String
String
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

He’s rotten to the core. Yes his care home ‘policy’ of forcing them to accept large numbers of covid-positive patients killed far more Americans than 9/11; he then attempted to deny he it – even CNN called him a liar & pointed out he signed the declaration requiring it. He told Fox news Weather reporter Janice [something] to “stick to the weather” when she mentioned she had lost 2 relatives [classed as] covid-19 deaths… Recently when asked about his state’s death totals, he literally said “who cares” if they died in a hospital, nursing home, wherever, “they died” he said.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago

One topic of discussion which has always been mentioned but never really touched above the line here is the fact the virus has never been isolated. It’s never really gone away, and while I understand the debate it is ultimately too technical for me to get irate about. However, this blog is a good read.

https://hive.blog/worldnews/@francesleader/email-exchange-with-mhra-uncovering-the-sarscov2-mrna-genomic-sequence-copy

Shows how the vaccines are derived from computer generation rather than phsycial isolates.

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awildgoose
awildgoose
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Even the official WHO timeline makes no claim the virus was ever isolated:

Listings of WHO’s response to COVID-19

There is only this entry regarding the sequencing:

11 January 2020

WHO tweeted that it had received the genetic sequences for the novel coronavirus from the People’s Republic of China and expected these to soon be made publicly available. 

Chinese media reported the first death from the novel coronavirus. 

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Sampa
Sampa
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

I did wonder why SOTT stuck this story on the front page again a couple of days ago

https://www.sott.net/article/448479-No-The-CDC-Did-Not-Admit-That-SARS-CoV-2-Has-Not-Been-Isolated

Ready prepared rebuttal?

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Nobody likes to talk about this inconvenient truth so they just pretend it doesn’t matter or doesn’t exist.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Ah, a computer virus? Will a dose of Norton sort it?

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Computer virus, computer vaccine, signed off on PCR. What kind of madness is dis?

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this is my username
this is my username
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Thanks for posting that – I read it before, but lost the link. Good info!

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Bill Grates
Bill Grates
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Very few people on here or at large care or know anything about this or the trail of deliberate falsehoods that have been laid to lead humanity to the control agenda destination.

Most people here think a few scientific or political egos are the cause of this temporary disruption to normal service.

The general population has been completely taken in by simple low grade psychological techniques which will ultimately destroy their lives as they know it , and the worse bit is that when that happens they won’t even know they’ve been had.

Good luck with spreading facts but most people are only really paying attention to tittle-tattle stories of police arresting people who are steaming up the car windows.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Not sure about this article

https://www.sott.net/article/448479-No-The-CDC-Did-Not-Admit-That-SARS-CoV-2-Has-Not-Been-Isolated

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Awkward Git
Awkward Git
4 years ago

No problem.

I think the more in depth Health and Safety Executive reply to these and other questions may be very illuminating.

Will post it when it comes in.

Have fun with the FOI answer though, let us know how it goes.

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Tyneside Tigress 2021
Tyneside Tigress 2021
4 years ago

Tell us something we don’t know. Sir Simon Stevens, you own this:

Stopping Covid spreading in hospitals could have made ‘substantial reduction in first wave deaths’ | Daily Mail Online

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  Tyneside Tigress 2021

A friend who works in a large university hospital reckons it’s worse this time. 50% nosomial infections he thinks. Lessons obviously not learned.

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ituex
ituex
4 years ago
Reply to  leggy

Yes, on Planet Normal ‘George’ from NHS England says 60% in hospital, 20%care home, 20% community.

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leicestersq
leicestersq
4 years ago
Reply to  ituex

And almost none in pubs or schools, and yet they got closed down.

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Norman
Norman
4 years ago
Reply to  Tyneside Tigress 2021

To misquote a current radio ad “Could you look an intensive care nurse in the eye and tell them they could have prevented this”.

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ituex
ituex
4 years ago
Reply to  Norman

It’s the management not the ITU nurses that are to blame.

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Tyneside Tigress 2021
Tyneside Tigress 2021
4 years ago
Reply to  ituex

Management and admin blob is out of control and not fit for purpose. Systems and procedures need complete overhaul. Carl Heneghan and Tom Jefferson interview with Freddie Sayers last summer was very informative on that.

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Biggles
Biggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Tyneside Tigress 2021

From experience of people I know, there’s no such thing as a non-Covid ward. Spend a few days in one of those and you will come down with it.

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  Tyneside Tigress 2021

Plus Wancock, he is the health secretary after all? Hope this is the start of the truth being stated about Wancock.

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Tyneside Tigress 2021
Tyneside Tigress 2021
4 years ago
Reply to  Cumbriacracked

I think there will be quite a lot to find in his cupboards.

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Cumbriacracked
Cumbriacracked
4 years ago
Reply to  Tyneside Tigress 2021

Hopefully.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  Tyneside Tigress 2021

It’s well seeing we are not living in ‘normal’ times. In normal times, if this was a real pandemic and this happened, the Opposition parties and the MSM would be shouting for the heads of those responsible for this, i.e. Hancock, Stevens and Whitty.

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

In a time of real national crisis, eg war, there would be a National Government with no official opposition. They have cleverly preserved the illusion of democracy by retaining an opposition, but by getting the opposition to act in a more draconian way than the government, thus making the government appear more reasonable.

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A. Contrarian
A. Contrarian
4 years ago
Reply to  Tyneside Tigress 2021

Er… and in second wave deaths too, surely?

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Steeve
Steeve
4 years ago

Leaving aside employment and the vaccine.

What I am hearing a lot of is that people will take the vaccine to travel, to be able to go to the theatre again etc. Travelling to visit family is one of the top reasons for having the vaccine. I am picking up yes it “offers protection” but it’s what it will allow that is more important to people. They want freedom and they will take the vaccine to taste freedom and see family and enjoy social activities. Life is too short for thinking about any larger moral/ethical questions concerning democracy and liberty.

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Tyneside Tigress 2021
Tyneside Tigress 2021
4 years ago
Reply to  Steeve

It’s no guarantee that it will ‘allow’ you to do any of those things though, as the elderly will be realising by now.

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Steeve
Steeve
4 years ago
Reply to  Tyneside Tigress 2021

Yes you are quite right – the vaccine comes with no guarantees!

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DJ Dod
DJ Dod
4 years ago
Reply to  Steeve

You can say that again. Pfizer don’t even guarantee their own data – their ‘Disclosure Notice’ (i.e. disclaimer) is very comprehensive:

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-conclude-phase-3-study-covid-19-vaccine

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
4 years ago
Reply to  Steeve

We have close family overseas who we would love to visit but we will hold out until the last minute before getting jabbed to facilitate the visit. I think there is a lot of International discussion needed before there is any agreed procedure on this. We are looking to travel to Uganda as soon as we get the chance, to travel there it depends on their entry requirements? when it comes to getting home again we are UK citizens under International Law can we be refused entry into the UK because we have not been jabbed? I feel there is a lot more water to go under the bridge on this before it becomes a formally agreed International procedure.

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this is my username
this is my username
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

You can’t be refused entry, but you could well be made to quarantine. It’s awful.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Just book a jab and at a later date argue like fuck with your GP when they say there is no record of you turning up.

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  Steeve

This is true in my experience. Three people I know want the vaccine so they can go on holiday. They’ve all had C19 – mild to bad cold – but aren’t interested when I point out they’ll be immune then and it’s immoral they should be so coerced into the experimental vaccine, they just shrug because they want to go on holiday. HOWEVER, these are the people that may lead us out of this, they won’t take ‘vaccines aren’t freedom’ lying down.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago
Reply to  Steeve

This is reason enough for me NOT to take the vaccine. I genuinely want to see how far they want to push this crap. I’ve got plenty of spare cash to spend at the right places.

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
4 years ago
Reply to  Steeve

From what I have just read since you posted this
https://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=241536

Seeing loved ones again may be the best reason not to be vaccinated.

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Bill Grates
Bill Grates
4 years ago
Reply to  Steeve

This is exactly what the govts are planning on.
Weak people will trade something ephemeral eg personal integrity/autonomy for a perceived physical gain.
They have lived their lives with both but are now unwilling to realise they’ve been mugged.
The govts are demanding a price for giving back that which was ours in the first place, but they will keep demanding more and more acquiescence as the months go by. This is not a single trade.

People who take that line are selling out themselves, their families and ultimately all of us.
It’s our turn to say to the “authorities”. NO NO NO

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Steeve

yes, and the fact that almost none suspect that their government is evil enough to actually try to murder them

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David Ashton
David Ashton
4 years ago
Reply to  Steeve

Very true, my wife and I only took the vaccine because we expect it will be a requirement for travel. We only have 1 relative in the UK, all others in Australia, US and Ireland.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  Steeve

The information I have seen on the “Vaccine” is that it does not give you protection, but makes you feel better when you are passing it on.

Last edited 4 years ago by PastImperfect
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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

I don’t know the story behind this Police attack firemen in Paris but the cops are going insane.
Anyone no more about this?

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Don’t quote me on this, but I think that’s from the Gilet Jaune protests last year. The firemen joined the protest on the above day, and that’s how they were supported by their ‘fellow’ emergency workers.

Never a mention on the MSM, of course.

More here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HZ9psB6Q4s and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Si_dH1_–o

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Awkward Git
Awkward Git
4 years ago

Saw a good sign today saying:

“Can my children be expelled from homeschooling?”

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Boris Bullshit
Boris Bullshit
4 years ago
Reply to  Awkward Git

I saw that in Telford too!

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Nymeria
Nymeria
4 years ago
Reply to  Boris Bullshit

Are things still as grim in Telford, Boris?

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago

Sign of absurdity

Look Away.jpg
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JME
JME
4 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

Where’s that?!

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

Our coastal path is plastered with cretinous signs like those. Plus instructions to sanitise your hands before and after touching every gate or stile. Nobody takes a blind bit of notice. I’m always hoping to see a zombie step over a 200-foot cliff while trying to socially distance, but of course no zombie would walk the coast path anyway.

Last edited 4 years ago by Annie
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Lili
Lili
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Tear the damn things down.

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

It just provides ”work” for council employees. They’re not people who actually BELIEVE in what they’re pasting.
(If I were a sceptic, I’d surreptitiously alter a word or two…. wouldn’t you?_

Last edited 4 years ago by Banjones
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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

It’s like social distancing in supermarkets.
Apart from a few “swervers”, nobody does.

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

Oh, such good stories on here today!

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franknhonest
franknhonest
4 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

RIP IT DOWN

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

Thank you, it’s so good to get The Science, particularly up one’s nose.

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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

Oh, that’s excellent!
I’m sending it to the rest of my family. They need a laugh as well.

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago

I hope this excellent NZ ”poster” can be read.

https://view.flodesk.com/pages/5fc81c0e132c2d4dee7995c9

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

Afraid its unreadable, to small & just a blur if i try to zoom in.

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Jo
Jo
4 years ago

I am still reading Dr Malcolm Kendrick’s book Doctoring Data. As posted yesterday, a great read for people who are “a little sceptical” of the medical profession.

Just read a chapter about how hard it is to go against the grain it you are a doctor or scientist, and the vilification and personal abuse aimed at you if you dare to question the status quo.

This, of course, is where State Censorship usually begins…and where does it end? Well, we know where it ends:

First, they came for the communists and he goes with this much quoted piece..

and then continues:
“Do you think this is a massive over-reaction? Do I really believe that we are heading for some form of totalitarian state, where dissent against medical “experts” will be punishable by imprisonment? Well, yes, I do.

As a reminder, this book was published in 2014.

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago

I’ve only just listened to Mike Graham speaking to Neil Oliver.
Well worth the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfggCDwT-JU

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Luckyharry69
Luckyharry69
4 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

I always found Neil a bit ‘grating’ on Coast….BUT he has become something of a hero for me in recent months…

TOP BLOKE

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Luckyharry69

I always thought he was a bit of a knob – all those shots of him with his long hair blowing in the wind on the edge of lochs etc – and thought he’d probably be a raving Scot Nat as well. Just shows one shouldn’t judge.

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l835
l835
4 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

If this carries on much longer, we’ll all have long billowing hair!

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  l835

Yes but unfortunately some of us will not be able to get it to stay stuck down on our bald patches!

Anyway I have a ‘secret’ hairdresser in the village so I’m ok.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

I’ve heard Gorilla Glue does a great job.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9242541/Woman-set-hair-Gorilla-Glue-cuts-ponytail.html

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FedupofLies
FedupofLies
4 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

He lives in Sterling which is one of the loveliest places on earth so I am impressed he cares about other people. It is I suspect quite easy to ‘lockdown’ there.

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Tom in Scotland
Tom in Scotland
4 years ago
Reply to  FedupofLies

I live in Stirling, too, and while it is very nice, I would say that lockdown stinks, regardless of where you live! It is a better place to be stuck than many others, however.

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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

Neil Oliver’s commentary and assessment have been spot on for months.

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

We are surely coming to the point now where the population has to make one of the biggest personal decision’s in their lives. Either accept an ‘experimental vaccine’, yield to a criminal authority, and hope for the best. Or maintain your personal integrity and liberty by refusing to take the vaccine. I choose the latter.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago

UK Column News – 12th February 2021

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Any parent who allow their children to be subjected to this should face lengthy custodial sentences.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

they will watch their children die a horrible painful death. that is probably punishment enough. [or they will die knowing that their children will face the same fate after they’re gone]

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

The scary thing is that in the case of divorced parents if one wants the kid(s) to be vaccinated and the other doesn’t, the law here comes down on the side of the parent who wants to vaccinate. There were some cases back in the early fall with respect to sending kids back to school in person — if one parent wanted in person and the other wanted online, the judges were siding with the parent who wanted in person. My brother is in this situation but I haven’t discussed the “vaccine” with him yet, however, if his ex wants them vaccinated he won’t have a choice.

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houdini
houdini
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Excellent programme to day on Uk Column
Worth watching in full to confirm how the debate has moved from the COVID to compulsory/ coerced vaccination for everyone even children .
Then of course the censorship.
Disturbing.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  houdini

Fridays are always good but the chaps at uk column did an outstanding job today.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

All three episodes have been excellent this week.

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
4 years ago

Dogging couple apprehended by police for breaching social distancing and coronavirus rules in car on coldest night of the year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AutekwKhAGU

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Luckyharry69
Luckyharry69
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

“dogging couple”?……dogging normally involves more than two people?….thats what I have been told lol!!

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  Luckyharry69

It was clickbait. I could have aid fornicating, but I can’t say that they weren’t married. So reassuring to see that our uniformed clowns in blue are keeping the public safe from dangerous criminals.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Luckyharry69

I was gonna say, you seem very well informed, what’s dogging anyway?

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  Luckyharry69

….thats what I have been told

Good save there, Harry. 😉

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

The fight for human freedom is waged on many fronts and in several positions…

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

What was it Churchill said?

By God, makes you proud to be British!

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

They were only exercising their pussies.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

I’m rather naive in these matters, but i’ve been authoritatively informed it was two women, hows that work?

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mj
mj
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

needs a strapadictomy (which i understand is another covid symptom )

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The Filthy Engineer
The Filthy Engineer
4 years ago
Reply to  mj

Long Covid?

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago

How has Professor Prick managed to work his way back to the top table?

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

He’s been back on his model behaviour.

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awildgoose
awildgoose
4 years ago

Covid case fatality rates in India vs the US by age group:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Covid19Crusher/status/1312752180017991680

Any chance to order the $2 pill packs from India in bulk?

Asking for a friend…

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
4 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

Actually, the Swiss Policy Research web site had a story recently on Ivermectin and linked to a vetted source in India so that readers could purchase it. I’m considering ordering some myself.

https://www.medicinesdropshipper.com/antiparasitic-drugs.html#iverlast-12mg-tablet

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

I’ve heard that some have been seized by customs as they enter the country.

If you go ahead let us know how you get on.

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Less government
Less government
4 years ago

Stunning warning about the CV19 vaccines:
https://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=241536

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
4 years ago
Reply to  Less government

A very interesting and somewhat disturbing read.

Now that puts the push for zero covid into the forefront, as to allow it to remain in the population risks a massive escalation, no matter how small the possibility.

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leicestersq
leicestersq
4 years ago
Reply to  Richy_m_99

Zero Covid? Does anyone sane believe that this virus can be eliminated?

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
4 years ago
Reply to  leicestersq

No, but who says that those who introduced this vaccine to the world cannot be classed as sane if they knew the potential risks.

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BTLnewbie
BTLnewbie
4 years ago
Reply to  Less government

I don’t know how credible the science is behind this paper but I quote:

Remember that the CDC and other “authorities” are telling you point-blank that they do not believe these vaccines produce sterilizing immunity. That is, you cannot take off your mask, stop distancing and resume your normal life after being vaccinated.  
Why not? There is only one reasonable explanation: They do not believe the vaccines prevent you from being infected and producing a titer of virus sufficient to infect others — the vaccines only decrease the rate of severe disease and death.

Such “vaccines” must NEVER be given on a widespread basis to the public when a particular virus is circulating in the population as doing so risks a catastrophic mutation cascade that will kill tens or even hundreds of millions of people.  While numerically the risk of this occurring is likely quite small the consequence if it does happen is catastrophic and thus that course of action should never be undertaken. ” 

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Sampa
Sampa
4 years ago
Reply to  Less government

So basically the jabbed are a bigger danger to us than we are to them?

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TheOriginalBlackPudding
TheOriginalBlackPudding
4 years ago
Reply to  Sampa

Yes, so the only way out of the trap is to jab as many people as possible.

Perhaps they are recognising the enormity of the potential problem, hence the pressure to vaccinate the entire population including children, which shouldn’t have been necessary.
Imagine the shitstorm if unvaccinated children were to start dying of the disease as a result. Old folks in care homes, they can hide that for a bit, but children…. It could just be that the CMO and CSO have got brown trousers.

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assoc
assoc
4 years ago
Reply to  Less government

Rather scary. His explanation as to why different types of Polio jabs are used in the west and in Africa was quite convincing.
What he doesn’t say is whether or not recommends being injected for covid, and if so which type. If he’s right then it’s obvious why the aim is for zero covid, which can’t be done

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awildgoose
awildgoose
4 years ago

Basement Joe commits mask, distancing, and cup sharing violation with reporter outside the White House:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/02/12/joe-biden-gives-maskless-reporter-his-coffee-outside-white-house/

The reporter’s main concern was informing us Joe likes his coffee plain.

At least he didn’t sniff her hair.

I hate this timeline.

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The Covid Kid
The Covid Kid
4 years ago

I defy anyone to be able to do this!

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  The Covid Kid

Change that to Jonathan Sumption.

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HoMojo
HoMojo
4 years ago

Friend of mine’s just phoned me saying she’s received a leaflet from NHS about Covid19 vaccine that says the over 70s have a 1 in 10 chance of dying of Covid. I didn’t believe her and said she should get her eyes tested but she insisted this was true. Anyone else seen this? If she’s not pulling my chain then it seems like unbelievably irresponsible propaganda from the oh-so-lovely NHS and their fear mongering lackeys.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  HoMojo

Surprised they didn’t say it was a 10 out of 10 chance unless they get stabbed with the magic software.

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  HoMojo

Liars flailing in their cesspit of propaganda.

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BTLnewbie
BTLnewbie
4 years ago
Reply to  HoMojo

I have the leaflet on my desk. It says:
“Overall fewer than 1 in 100 people who are infected will die from COVID-19, but in those over 75 years of age this figure rises to 1 in 10.”
Followed by:
‘There is no cure for COVID-19 although some newly tested treatments do help to reduce the risk of complications.”
Fearmongering and abuse of stats.

Last edited 4 years ago by BTLnewbie
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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  BTLnewbie

Disgusting from a health “provider”.

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stewart
stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  BTLnewbie

“There is no cure” is a blatant lie.

The immune system cures most cases.

Why isn’t that misinformation censored?

What an outrage.

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Janette
Janette
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

God I know. How are they getting away with this???

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  BTLnewbie

I can confirm that is genuine.

“Overall fewer than 1 in 100 people who are infected will die from COVID-19, but in those over 75 years of age this figure rises to 1 in 10.”
Followed by:
‘There is no cure for COVID-19 although some newly tested treatments do help to reduce the risk of complications.”

That is word for word what the ‘Covid-19 Vaccination Guide’ that I received with the first letter I received from the NHS inviting me to book my vaccination says.

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JaneHarry
JaneHarry
4 years ago
Reply to  HoMojo

they really are full of shit, aren’t they

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  HoMojo

There are about 9 million people in the UK over 70. If 10% were to die that would imply without vaccination of any of the population there would be 900,000 future deaths in the over 70s directly from covid. Clearly that’s complete nonsense.

Last edited 4 years ago by Freecumbria
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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  HoMojo

It’s fact all old people die. And if they had a PCR covid test, highly likely they died with covid.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Ivermectin use could push the covid death rate into the long grass for healthy septuagenarians and octogenarians.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

Still goods odds they’ll die eventually.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

But not when Bill Gates wants then to.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  PastImperfect

The problem with that is he might live to 120 too, he’s only 67!

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Marialta
Marialta
4 years ago
Reply to  HoMojo

I posted about that yesterday. Scaremongering of the highest order. I showed it to a sceptic mate his answer: “ it’s a misprint they’ve left off the noughts!”

Last edited 4 years ago by Marialta
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Hoppy Uniatz
Hoppy Uniatz
4 years ago
Reply to  HoMojo

For a 70 year old woman of normal weight and no health issues, the QCovid calculator puts the risk of dying at 1 in 4,000.

https://qcovid.org/Home/AcademicLicence?licencedUrl=%2FCalculation

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Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
4 years ago
Reply to  Hoppy Uniatz

We could do with a QVaxx calculator that works out the odds of an adverse reaction.

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Sampa
Sampa
4 years ago
Reply to  Hoppy Uniatz

I now it’s a serious business but c’mon, who didn’t go and have a play with the calculator ????

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Hoppy Uniatz

Just done the calculation and my chance of dying of Covid is 1 in 1481.
I’M ONLY 72, I’M TOO YOUNG TO DIE, SOB,SOB,SOB.
Mrs FP chances of dying are 1 in 3049.
AS ABOVE.

Last edited 4 years ago by Fingerache Philip
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Hoppy Uniatz
Hoppy Uniatz
4 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

Ooer, your survival rate is only 99.93%

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Hoppy Uniatz

You don’t have to rub it in.

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Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

What does that actually mean?

Does it assume you already have Covid or is it calculating the odds of you actually getting Covid and then dying from it.

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Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago
Reply to  Hoppy Uniatz

I suspect that figure is for any 70 year old, i.e. including those who don’t have Covid.

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Bill Grates
Bill Grates
4 years ago
Reply to  HoMojo

Where are the lawyers, where are the civil liberties groups to tackle these deliberate misinformation campaigns.

Where is the outrage that this is being perpetrated on us and at our expense.

People need to wake up and soon.

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  HoMojo

I quite like this calculator.

https://www.qcovid.org/Home/AcademicLicence?licencedUrl=%2FCalculation

It calculates the odds of someone getting and dying with or from covid in a 3 month period of the first wave in Spring 2020.

As a rough guess, you would expect the odds of somebody (who doesn’t think they have had covid yet for example because they have never had symptoms and never tested positive) dying from covid in the future is probably less than the odds from this calculator.

A typical figure for a 70 year old in good health might be about 1 in 4,000. So the chances of a 70 year old in good health dying from covid in the future is probably considerably less than 1 in 4,000.

Hard to be precise, but 1 in 10 is nonsense, and putting such a figure in a leaflet without proper explanation is medical negligence.

Last edited 4 years ago by Freecumbria
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HoMojo
HoMojo
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Thank you, i needed these replies. But clearly my friend doesn’t need her eyes tested since Marialta’s quoted the same thing below. Ludicrous and criminal in that it’ll scare people who don’t need it into having it.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  HoMojo

That is, of course, the intention. Chalk it up for Nuremberg 2.

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Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago
Reply to  HoMojo

Careful here.

The 1 in 10 figure might be a bit pessimistic but I suspect those odds assume the 75 year old already has Covid, i.e. it’s the probability of death if Covid is present.

The 1 in 1000 (or whatever it is) odds are for the general (non infected) population.

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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Mayo

The 1 in 10 is the probability on some basis that you die if you test positive and are over 75. But a large number of the PCR positives probably come from hospital tests because they are testing people weekly, and testing people with severe symptoms on admission. And quite a high percentage of the people over age 75 already in hospital would die anyway regardless of covid from the conditions for which they are being treated in hospital.

Thus the high probability 1 in 10 is telling you that people in hospital have a high chance of dying of the other conditions for which they are being treated or that those admitted with severe covid are more likely to die of covid than those with mild or no symptoms, not that covid is particularly deadly for the average 75 year old who might tests positive if were they tested.

So it’s a completely meaningless figure.

What you want to know if considering a vaccine is what is the chance that the vaccine will prevent your future death from the symptoms of covid and for someone who hasn’t obviously already had covid I would estimate that the calculator comes up with an overestimate of that figure. It’s a guess for sure but it’s in the right ball park.

So you have to compare the say less than 1 in 4000 chance of the vaccine preventing your covid death against the short and potential long term side affects of the experimental vaccine.

Last edited 4 years ago by Freecumbria
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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

And to reduce your odds of dying from covid yet further make sure to take at least 2000 IU per day of vitamin D3 (and get natural sun without sun cream but without burning in the summer), because vitamin D is critical to the activation of T cells, and quick activation of T cells is importantly in avoiding severe symptoms of covid.

Last edited 4 years ago by Freecumbria
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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  HoMojo

We’ve had a leaflet today:
Page 3: “overall fewer than 1 in 100 people who are infected will die from Covid-19, but in those over 75 years of age this rises to 1. in 10.”

Last edited 4 years ago by LMS2
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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  HoMojo

P.S.: my mum’s 86 years old. She tested positive for CV19, and apparently had almost no symptoms (unless they were lying.)
Several other residents in the care home have died…..all since the vaccine….

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rose
rose
4 years ago

We just bought 6 bottles and the shelves in Aldi were full

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isobar
isobar
4 years ago

I do hope In time there will be a full and frank public enquiry into how we ended up here. It strikes me that in early March last year both Twitty and Unbalanced were talking reasonably sensibly. Ok, then came the Professor Pantsdown domesday scenario, but one thing that we seem to have overlooked is what a key influencer might have had on Bojo in terms of going for lockdown. He seems to be a forgotten man when it comes to this shitshow, Got off lightly methinks but maybe his eyesight has improved.

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Shit show only got shittier since he left so I don’t know 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrea Salford

‘since he left’?

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

‘He’ confused Barnard Castle with Specsavers.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

full and frank public enquiry into how we ended up here

Ha ha hahahahahaha ha ha ha hahahaha yeah right.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Look to the recent public enquiry into the Renewable Heat Incentive Scheme here in Northern Ireland. It was a scam. An enquiry found all sorts of political pork barrel antics and it was out of control tonthe cost of hundreds of millions in liabilities. It brought down the local government for three years. The enquiry cost millions and found nobody at fault. No politician lost their job. Today they announced the way to resolve the issue is to cut a deal with those who’d invested in heaters at great personal cost on the basis of future payback. The bailout will cost £60m to the tax payer.

Thats an enquiry which has taken 5 years.

Yes. Nobody was at fault.

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stevie119
stevie119
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Unfuckinbelievable! Well….it`s not, but it should be.

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PastImperfect
PastImperfect
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

The key influencer was megabuck$ gate$

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mhcp
mhcp
4 years ago

As a little nod to The Great Models of the Experts, the Thames froze today.

Must be that Global Warming then.

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Waldorf
Waldorf
4 years ago
Reply to  mhcp

Interesting. It is pretty damn cold.

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  mhcp

Wouldn’t mind some of that there global warming meself, it’s bloody freezing here oop North.

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Luckyharry69
Luckyharry69
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrea Salford

its ‘grim up North’ Andrea………

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TheOriginalBlackPudding
TheOriginalBlackPudding
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrea Salford

Ee By Gum… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZfS97WcRwI

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Luckyharry69
Luckyharry69
4 years ago
Reply to  mhcp

Its always fucking cold in FEBRUARY!!!!…has been for centuries!!!!

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Silke David
Silke David
4 years ago
Reply to  Luckyharry69

Like the farmer in Norfolk who complained on R4 that the field is covered in snow and no lush fresh grass and she has to feed extra so the lambs develop and the ews are strong enough to give birth.
Because you artificially brought lambing forward you idiot! 60 years ago there was always snow in February!

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

That’s why they’re called SNOWdrops!

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BJJ
BJJ
4 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

“But pleasures are like poppies spread,
You seize the flower, it’s bloom is shed;
Or, like the snow-fall in the river,
A moment white, then melts forever.”

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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

But….but….isn’t this what the climate alarmists want, colder weather

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  mhcp

Good job they stopped calling it global warming and called it ‘climate change’ instead then.

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  mhcp

Tell that to Arctic sea ice. The deepest Maunder minimum leads to a drop in solar output of about 1/250 of the usual level of solar irradiance.

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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  mhcp

South Florida is cold as temps plunge into 40s – South Florida Sun-Sentinel
http://www.sun-sentinel.com › news › weather

‘Tis cold in Florida as well….
Damn that global warming

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Richy_m_99
Richy_m_99
4 years ago
Reply to  LMS2

Anything under 60F and Floridians think an ice age has hit them. When it snowed in Tallehasse in ’19 half the OAP’s died of shock.

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Spearthrower Owl
Spearthrower Owl
4 years ago

I am chilled to the bone at the prospect of a vaccine passport, not just for travel, but so that we emulate china and use them to determine whether someone may enter a shop. What happens to people like me already very much on the margins as it is who cannot have the vaccine for medical reasons? How do I continue to support myself at even the most basic level of even keeping food in the house???

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago

LOL…yet another Guardian article title that I find funny (but don’t dare read the article)

The Guardian: When even my key-worker mother started to question the vaccine, I had to act.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/feb/12/key-worker-mother-questioned-vaccine-i-had-to-act-romesh-ranganathan

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

They really are scum.

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Bill Grates
Bill Grates
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

Guardian is govt owned propaganda.

For anyone interested in good clear assessments of what’s going on visit offguardian. They have a covid facts section and is a good place to get simplified but comprehensive info on the facts.

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Luckyharry69
Luckyharry69
4 years ago
Reply to  Bill Grates

its a shame because the (Manchester) Guardian as it was when I bought it in the 1970’s was a reputable newspaper….very sad…….

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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  Bill Grates

I wouldn’t call it government-owned, but they are fellow travellers at the moment.

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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

The Guardian is an insult to everyone.

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Caramel
Caramel
4 years ago

Plan B symposium. Professor Sunetra Gupta is speaking right now..

https://www.covidplanb.co.nz/symposium2021/

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cloud6
cloud6
4 years ago

Let the maths do the talking…..

How much SARS-CoV-2 is there in the world? – YouTube

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago

Our leaders may have boxed themselves into a corner here. The vaccine has to be perceived as working, but it can’t work so well that restrictions can be lifted. The case for everyone getting it cannot be made solely on the grounds of giving freedoms back. As we’ve seen from the reaction this week, this will be questioned by many more people.

If we are up against 5D chess players here then the next few moves should reveal the strategy. But if they are idiots and charlatans, they are fucked.

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Luckyharry69
Luckyharry69
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

agreed……..

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

They’re also playing a very dangerous game with all the international travel restrictions, variants, vaccine passports etc because they’re applying safetyism and the precautionary principle to the entire world. This is already leading to global tit-for-tat and gamesmanship so that no country can trust or deal openly with any other country.

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Luckyharry69
Luckyharry69
4 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

agreed

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Tom in Scotland
Tom in Scotland
4 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

Yes, I agree, and this is one of the reasons why I’m cautiously optimistic that the whole fucking thing will come tumbling down, probably within months.

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom in Scotland

Hopefully. Bear in mind we are told this is a ‘global pandemic that requires a global response’ or similar all the time.

But if the ‘global village’ were an actual village or small town, then the situation would be insane – some people are allowed to go to some shops and houses, but others aren’t; some businesses and pubs are open, but only to certain people; there is no agreement on who is allowed in to what premises or even what streets he may walk down. If you go to some shops you have to stay indoors for ten days; if you go to others, you have to stay in the local hotel for fourteen days at your own expense.

Some people in the village are fighting and smashing things up whereas others are staying indoors &c &c, and this is all ostensibly to fight a killer disease which isn’t really killing anyone except a few of the elderly people in the village, and even that’s dropping and dropping now. It’s a crazy situation that can’t continue.

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Sampa
Sampa
4 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

Very true, there are already rumblings about reciprocity over here. The attitude seems to be that it’s time Brazil created a red list too and applied the same restrictions as Brazilians face. It probably won’t come to much right now, direct flights from the UK are banned to reduce the risk from the Kent variation.

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awildgoose
awildgoose
4 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

This application of safetyism would seem to be so complex and unwieldy that it would eventually asphyxiate their entire globalist project.

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DJ Dod
DJ Dod
4 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

I’m fairly sure that the travel restrictions will be temporary – the Guardian-reading ‘lockdown’ zealots will have to visit their villas in Tuscany soon…

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  DJ Dod

I keep saying this about a lot of things – they won’t indefinitely put up with not being able to go to the theatre, opera, museums, galleries, awards dinners etc. Seeing and being seen is one of the main industries in the west!

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leicestersq
leicestersq
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

They are also running out of people left to infect and transmit the virus. If you take into account that 20-25% of people had pre-existing immunity, then factor in how many cases there have been and scale that up for the people who havent been tested, then you must be pretty close to herd immunity anyways. For them to go on racking up new cases reveals the fraud in the PCR test.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

You almost seem optimistic tonight Richard. Good to see

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Mark
Mark
4 years ago

Great Reset? Putin Says, “Not So Fast”

“Putin literally laughed at the idea of the Fourth Industrial Revolution – Schwab’s idea of a planned society through AI, robots and the merging of man and machine. 

He flat-out told them their policies driving the middle class to the brink of extinction over the COVID-19 pandemic will further increase social and political unrest while also ensuring wealth inequality gets worse.

Putin’s no flower-throwing libertarian or anything, but his critique of the hyper-financialized post-Soviet era is accurate. 

The era dominated by central banking and the continued merging of state and corporate powers has increased wealth inequality across the U.S. and Europe, benefiting millions while extracting the wealth of billions.

Listening to Putin was like listening to a cross between Pat Buchanan and the late Walter Williams. According to him the neoliberal ideal of “invite the world/invade the world” has destroyed the cultural ties within countries while hollowing out their economic prospects. Putin criticized zero-bound interest rates, QE, tariffs and sanctions as political weapons.

But the targets of those weapons, while nominally pointed at his Russia, were really the West’s own engines of vitality, as the middle classes have seen their wages stagnate, and access to education, medical care, and the courts to redress grievances fall dramatically.”

A pretty good summary of Putin overall and a interesting account of top level attitudes to this

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this is my username
this is my username
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

According to Deagel.com’s forcast, Russia is one of the few countries which won’t see devastating drops in overall population. They estimate the UK’s population to fall to 14million.

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Luckyharry69
Luckyharry69
4 years ago
Reply to  this is my username

no way…the UK population is going to grow beyond silly…I predict another 10 million in the next 10 years at least….to DIVERSIFY our wonderful country!!!

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ituex
ituex
4 years ago
Reply to  Luckyharry69

Well I’m off so that’s one fewer.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago

Daily Business: Omega wins DHSC Covid test kits deal and hires chairman.
https://dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2021/02/omega-wins-dhsc-covid-test-kits-deal-and-hires-chairman/

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

The DHSC contract is expected to have a significant impact on the future performance of the business and whilst volumes are unquantified at this stage it is likely to result in substantial revenue growth in the financial year beginning 1 April 2021.

I bet it will!

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

This is going well, keep it going folks, almost there… https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/569957

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eptwll
eptwll
4 years ago

The university where I am teaching and finishing up a PhD has an ‘outbreak’. Here is the text of a letter they sent to the student body. This is a hateful letter full of very dubious ‘science’. It’s even relishing the taking of ‘action’ by the Garda.

‘I would like to make you aware that we are working with the Health Service Executive (HSE) as a result of a number of positive cases of COVID-19 among our students in Galway. First and foremost, our focus is on supporting our students during this time, and we wish those affected a full and speedy recovery. Any student who may be considered a close contact is being contacted by the HSE to arrange for testing. Our pastoral care team are on hand to provide supports for those affected to look after their physical and emotional wellbeing at this time.   
 
It’s important for us all to be mindful of the symptoms, and contact your GP or the health centre immediately if you show any symptoms of Covid-19. While there is positive news with vaccines being rolled out, we have seen the devastation of this virus particularly in recent months, so we all need to hold firm and continue to follow the public health guidelines not only for ourselves, but for our friends and for our community.   
 
While I know the vast majority of you are doing your utmost to abide by the public health guidelines, unfortunately, a small number of students have been referred to our disciplinary processes in the last few weeks for alleged breaches of University and public health guidance. These will be dealt with in a manner that befits the severity of the current situation. We have been proud of the response of our community, but we know that reckless behaviour from even a small few has the potential to cause this virus to spread in our community and impact on those who are most vulnerable.  An Garda Síochána are particularly vigilant at this time, and will not hesitate to take action against those who break the law through reckless behaviour.   
 
Public health have also asked us to clarify to those of you who have may have been infected previously, that there is no long term immunity from this virus. Reinfection is uncommon but possible, making it imperative we all hold firm and continue to abide by the public health guidance.
 

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  eptwll

Jeez, sneeze and you’re arrested.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  eptwll

“Public health have also asked us to clarify to those of you who have may have been infected previously, that there is no long term immunity from this virus.”

Desperation. This has not been proven to anything like an acceptable level of certainty. Clearly a lie to justify never ending vaccines and restrictions, and I think it’s beginning to wear very thin.

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

There are many many appears in all journals now supporting immunity from having Covid infection previously.

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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

“there is no long term immunity from this virus.”

They don’t know that.

If its a stable virus, immunity will be long term.
If it’s not, then we’ll never get rid of it, because we’ll never build up immunity any more than we do for colds or flu. It will be annual vaccinations – but only vaccines that don’t kill more than the virus.
And if so, then lockdowns and restrictions cannot be maintained forever, so we might as well get rid of them now.

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago
Reply to  eptwll

Ah yes, such a ‘small number’ that they have to dedicate about 1/3 of the letter to warning about them.

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ituex
ituex
4 years ago
Reply to  eptwll

Similar things to this were sent in the UK and USA in the autumn. My daughters university in the US is particularly bad, and the students are falling over each other to report ‘irresponsible behavior’ which is usually walking too close to someone or,unbelievably, ‘eating without a mask on’.

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  ituex

Seeing them eat with a mask on must be a sight,

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eptwll
eptwll
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Or this idiocycomment image

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Annie
Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  eptwll

Universities, centres for intellectual freedom and independent thought.
Or nests of stupid, mindless, bullying cretins.

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Norman
Norman
4 years ago
Reply to  eptwll

Again breaches of the guidance (what does that actually mean, you either follow or ignore guidance) is being conflated with law breaking. Appalling.

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Bill Gisz
Bill Gisz
4 years ago

“The roads to unfreedom are many. Signposts on one of them bear the inscription HEALTH FOR ALL.”

~ Dr Petr Skrabanek

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoNewNormal/comments/ligwly/another_day_in_clown_world/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

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Cranmer
Cranmer
4 years ago

What I think might be happening now is that a division is emerging between those ideologues who want permanent lockdowns and/or the Great Reset, and who will stop at nothing to get it, and those realpolitik types who are concerned more for their own position and who are beginning to realise that could be in jeopardy.

My guess is the latter group is starting to advise the former that they have to back down because whatever happens must look as if it is a unified governmental decision, and not a caving in to public pressure.

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Ovis
Ovis
4 years ago
Reply to  Cranmer

We need them to cave. We need them to suffer total humiliation. The future of our society needs this.

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Luckyharry69
Luckyharry69
4 years ago
Reply to  Ovis

agreed

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago

Ivor Cummins speaking re NZ:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MSvjhrFaHuha/

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  Banjones

Good to see these girls essentially telling the World that not everyone in New Zealand is convinced that the Utopia St. Jacinda is claiming exists.

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago

https://youtu.be/bBIG113IvBY

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primesinister
primesinister
4 years ago

I dont give a flying fuck https://youtu.be/Vqbk9cDX0l0 what any mp has got to say I wont be writing/ listening or engaging with the self serving wankers anymore..
There will be no remedy forthcoming and no recourse to what is lawfull from them.

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Luckyharry69
Luckyharry69
4 years ago
Reply to  primesinister

agreed

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago

Just arrived from the oldest posts. People were feeling rather depressed this morning.

So, watch this and laugh: https://youtu.be/wC4awKLVHG4?t=22
Don’t miss the bit about the Royals though – explains a lot!

Less amusing but this section about the RRM explains why all the mockdown countries use the same terms and do the same crazy stuff re covid: https://youtu.be/wC4awKLVHG4?t=3525

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theanalyst
theanalyst
4 years ago

Interesting Statistics on Type of UK Tests Done by Publish date. Major change in emphasis. Fall in PCR test volumes and rise in more relevant Lateral Flow.

Most recent – 7 Days after and including 05/02/2021

  • 1,927,059 PCR and 2,352,108 Antigen Lateral Flow = 45% PCR and 55% Lateral Flow

Historical – 7 Days after and including 28/12/2020

  • 2,251,704 PCR and 315, 587 Antigen Lateral Flow = 88% PCR and just 13% Lateral Flow

Lateral Flow is now less that 1% positive for the last couple of weeks (0.6%)….so we are possibly back to a potential pseudo epidemic again. PCR might take a little time to catch up….as it detects remnants of virus.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/download

Last edited 4 years ago by theanalyst
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Freecumbria
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

Yes interesting. This AdapNation article was talking about some related testing chnages.

https://adapnation.io/the-covid-exit-strategy-lfd-test-pivot/

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Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
4 years ago

What is Joel Smalley alluding to here? Wish he would just spit out whatever it is he is trying to say.

https://twitter.com/RealJoelSmalley/status/1360236362713227265?s=20

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

He’s created a model which, given his model parameters, when run, it matches the curves seen in many regions in 2020. Almost perfect given what he’s posted there. So it basically says his model is robust given empricial data over a couple of distinct periods and many regions.

But when he applies it to January, it doesn’t hold. A new profile is taking over.

Vaccines?

His model assumes a self limiting power to the spread of the virus. And this holds, but for January the same power doesn’t kick in when it should.

Last edited 4 years ago by BeBopRockSteady
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LMS2
LMS2
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

In a few weeks we’ll find out, I suspect. If it is the vaccine, the PTB won’t be able to hide it indefinitely. They’ll deny it, of course, but eventually they won’t be able to deny it.

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Ossettian
Ossettian
4 years ago
Reply to  LMS2

But how many more millions will they have jabbed by then?

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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago

I drop into some lockdown fanatics twitter pages from time to time, and it’s a more depressing experience than the Hancock press conferences. Granted, we all have our echo chambers and need to stay wise to that, but they literally have the opposite view to us.

PCR being one example. Absolutely no problems with using it for the last year, none.

Asymptomatics are walking time bombs still.

Their constant adaptation to new rules and thh questions. DEAR GOD THE QUESTIONS. “Should we be wearing N95 and cloth when double masking now or just double cloth do?”

How can people have arrived at such a question in just twelve months? It’s almost as if they’ve been preparing to shine in this hell their whole lives and are utterly loving it.

They will never give an inch

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awildgoose
awildgoose
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Thank you for your service.

Is there any chance ideas like masking up with a plastic bag can be seeded among them?

I hear carbon monoxide is a tremendous disinfectant of Covid.

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Lili
Lili
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

These people are not human. They have no souls.

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String
String
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Good grief. Well just wait until they find out that cases of Ebola appear to be up 300% now in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (from 1, to 3). Someone better be careful next time they go in to the supermarket & find an unmasked assistant.. better watch out for that asymptomatic ebola now! 🙂

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theanalyst
theanalyst
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

More than 95% of these fanatics on twitter are enjoying the feeling of being personally much richer in terms of finance and work/life balance as a result of lockdown. They are not driven by fear. Not at all. They love it and they want it to continue. This is why they are so vocal in their support. They are selfish buggers.

Last edited 4 years ago by theanalyst
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CGL
CGL
4 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

So they have more money – that’s great – what are they going to spend it on???
We could be said to be in a similar (in a smaller way) position, but we most certainly do not share their glee at this current predicament.

Last edited 4 years ago by CGL
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Ossettian
Ossettian
4 years ago
Reply to  CGL

Child porn.

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jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
4 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

The chancellors budget in March might shake them out of their complacency.

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awildgoose
awildgoose
4 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

In the US, many of those people are what we call upper middle class.

They typically have jobs unaffected by lockdown, substantial investment portfolios and savings, and many derive good income from those portfolios.

They also tend to watch CNN and the BBC religiously.

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CGL
CGL
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Victoria cross for bravery for you then

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Brain dead celebrity watch Kadashian followers. This is what happens when you turn away and let them get on with it. Big Brother, I’m a Celebrity, Strictly, Twitter, Facebook, BLM, BBC….blah blah blah. I ignored it all and got on with my life, why can’t they leave us alone?

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The Filthy Engineer
The Filthy Engineer
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

“Should we be wearing N95 and cloth when double masking now or just double cloth do?”

Sometimes I have difficulty telling the difference between satire and real life. If only because it would be the sort of question that I would troll them with.

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  BeBopRockSteady

Branch Covidians.

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Bruce Reynolds
Bruce Reynolds
4 years ago

Just had a bell from a couple of the Bro’s, Covid Marshalls car is now standing on bricks minus two wheels unfortunately didn’t get time to remove all four, this is the same guy they boxed in last week thought he was being clever parking car in quite back street,prat didn’t even have locking wheel nuts easy peasey.. poor fuckers are freezing so I have a bottle of good Brandy waiting.

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danny
danny
4 years ago
Reply to  Bruce Reynolds

Look in his eyes and tell him he’s walking home.

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  danny

Look him in the eyes and tell him ‘don’t EVER turn on the peoples you son of a bitch. We’ll teach you integrity’

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String
String
4 years ago
Reply to  Bruce Reynolds

‘Of all the back streets in all the world he had to drive into mine..’

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago

Peabrain Authoritarians.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  bebophaircut

The new album… 😉

just_talkin_bollocks.jpg
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theanalyst
theanalyst
4 years ago

So now France admits normal immunity exists….but only just. UK government still lies about this. We must remember and one day hold them all to account for this lie.

“France’s public health authority said Friday, however, that people who had already been infected with Covid-19 develop an immune response similar to that bestowed by a vaccine dose, and that a single dose after infection would likely suffice.
“A single vaccine dose will also play the role of reminding” their immune system how to fight Covid-19, it said.”

https://www.france24.com/en/france/20210212-france-recommends-single-vaccine-shot-for-people-who-have-had-covid-19

But the last line is important……….”The authority recommended a gap of between three and six months after infection before individuals who had recovered from Covid-19 receive a jab.”

Why don’t the UK recommend this? What do the French know that Boris the Mass Killer of our elderly and lover of Big Pharma is not saying?

Last edited 4 years ago by theanalyst
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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

Tenuous link, but coincidentally I’m watching ‘Fench Connection’. Excellent film and no masks.

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Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
4 years ago

Well that’s 3 of my Nursing colleagues refusing Satans Spunk 4 including myself.Steady the Fife and Drums.

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fiery
fiery
4 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

Well done but keep us updated about whether you and your colleagues face further pressure.

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Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  fiery

They can go to fuck .I’m embarrassed to be a Nurse.I have worked 34 years in the job and this new breed of Nurse,the obese self important I went to Uni types are pure shite.

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Alice
Alice
4 years ago

Just found this gem on Laurence Fox Twitter:

@fiona_byrd
·
Feb 11
Replying to
@LozzaFox
Does this mean an end to double-breasted suits? Are they now double-chested? And is a breast pocket on a shirt a chest pocket? Do people in a group walk four achest instead of four abreast? Do we eat chicken chests?

It made me laugh, so I thought I’d share it – someone else may need a laugh…

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  Alice

Excellent 👍👍

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  Alice

“200m cheststroke”
“make a clean chest of it”

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Keeping achest of the situation

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TheOriginalBlackPudding
TheOriginalBlackPudding
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrea Salford

Grrr “I snoozed and I losed” – you beat me to it by a second. 🙂

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  TheOriginalBlackPudding

🤣🤷🏻‍♀️sorry 😇

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrea Salford

From the next ‘Shades of Grey‘ novel:

“John held her away from him; cupping one in each hand, he whispered breathlessly, “You have beautiful chests!“

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joffy69
joffy69
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

But I’ve got a chest infection! What is it?
And both my lungs are in my chest. Help!

Last edited 4 years ago by joffy69
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TheOriginalBlackPudding
TheOriginalBlackPudding
4 years ago
Reply to  Alice

And builders are going to be using chestsummers.

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Sodastream
Sodastream
4 years ago
Reply to  Alice

Made me laugh out loud thanks you! It doesn’t happen much anymore.

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godowneasy
godowneasy
4 years ago
Reply to  Alice

Everything has gone tits up.

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String
String
4 years ago
Reply to  Alice

Great stuff thank you.
Makes you wonder what some people think when they see a Horse Chestnut Tree…. 🙂

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swedenborg
swedenborg
4 years ago

The natural infection with C-19 give an antibody and T cells response. But even if antibody disappears these seronegative previous cases get a brisk response when they encounter the vaccine or infection (only vaccine  in this study).Only one conclusion. Previous infection do not need vaccine. As a theoretical risk for ADE it seems dangerous to promote vaccine in previous infected. Israel seems now to think that they might get 70% protection 2-3 weeks after the second dose. Lower than the Phase 2 but in line with a good matched seasonal flu vaccine.UK is in the dangerous position with only 1 dose which seems to be not good according to Israeli data.

https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.6.2100096#abstract_content

The Israeli study of vaccine. One dose of vaccine in previous infected gave a boost to antibodies.This was also the case for cases withC-19 who had lost their antibodies.

Conclusion the famous T cells immunity kicks in and they draw the conclusion that previous infected can not be a priority group for vaccine.

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Ceriain
Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

Conclusion the famous T cells immunity kicks in and they draw the conclusion that previous infected can not be a priority group for vaccine.

Sounds similar to the French findings posted below by ‘theanalyst‘: https://www.france24.com/en/france/20210212-france-recommends-single-vaccine-shot-for-people-who-have-had-covid-19

Last edited 4 years ago by Ceriain
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isobar
isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

Continued to be amazed by your insights, please keep it up!

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

Thank you 🙏. I’ve saved this to my library of facts that I regularly reference in efforts to educate those I care about as to all things ‘virus’ – why they shouldn’t be afraid and why lockdowns are wrong.

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awildgoose
awildgoose
4 years ago

A bit of Friday cheer from our recently cancelled fellow sceptic, Gina Carano:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6uqqtlxJ9sw/UB007EhYUyI/AAAAAAAACEM/AklTdmSs1v0/s1600/gina-carano.gif

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago

”The day the people stood up…..”

https://usercontent.flodesk.com/18362695-f9e0-4cfd-9424-36de88d15e58/upload/the-day-the-people-stood-up-2_62e437a4-3e84-44f1-8f7f-f0e79f92f5d6.pdf

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swedenborg
swedenborg
4 years ago

Easy to read very interesting article discussing why influenza has disappeared and C-19 instead.Recommended.

https://medium.com/illumination-curated/the-unexpected-case-of-the-disappearing-flu-64fd1fa5e909

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JohnB
JohnB
4 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

.

super covid.jpeg
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BeBopRockSteady
BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago
Reply to  swedenborg

Ivor Cummins relies on the work of Hope Simpson too. The elbowing out of flu by SARS-CoV-2 seems the most plausible…not masks of course

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swedenborg
swedenborg
4 years ago

At least BMJ publish this letter from a retired GP

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n314/rr-8

When medical professionals allow themselves to be manipulated by corrupt politicians and influenced by media propaganda instead of being guided by their own ethical principles and common sense based on decades of clinical experience, the outlook becomes very bleak indeed.
Historically, public respect for and trust in doctors has exceeded that awarded to politicians. The unquestioning capitulation of medicine to an authoritarian executive and predatory corporate power may have undermined the doctor-patient relationship for a generation.
 

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago

There’s something of a paradox in my approach to all this, and I suspect it may be the same for many of you on here.

I’ve spent the better part of my adult life avoiding people at every opportunity. I loathe large social gatherings. I generally dislike most people I encounter. I detest most popular things. Yet here I am, attempting in the very small ways that I can to restore all the things that mean little or nothing to me. All on behalf of people who either hate me for doing so or, if we turn things around and end up beating this, will not give me or anyone else the slightest bit of credit. Who cares, I never gave a shit about what any of those fools thought about anything, I still don’t and I never will.

I am doing this simply because I cannot live with myself if I allow these horrendous violations to happen without saying or doing anything. Opposing all that is false and evil is a moral obligation. No rewards are necessary, or expected.

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Yes, I know how you feel. I particularly disliked the local rugby drinking culture.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

Don’t get me started on rugby. A sport whose “World” Cup is still an invitation tournament. The first and last time that happened in football (which I used to follow very closely) was 1930.

The empty culture of all professional sports has been exposed as the bread and circuses bullshit it always was. Give me Hackney Marshes any day of the week.

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

With a ladder and some glasses,
You could see the Hackney Marshes,
If it wasn’t for the houses in between.

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Integrity. Principle. Moral compass. A Man For All Seasons. Thank you Richard O for believing in and fighting for what matters, what makes us civilised and human.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrea Salford

These are the only things that have ever mattered. Everything else in life, especially in our decadent Western culture, is just irrelevant noise. Hypnotic for a while – I was transfixed by the signal for decades – before I snapped out of it.

Last edited 4 years ago by Richard O
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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Same here. There is so much in the world I neither want nor need but I still believe in and would fight for it to be freely available to others especially our children. They should enjoy the freedoms we had.
My family never cease to remind me that I’m the most Howard Hughes (don’t go out much) person they know when I rant against lockdown. To which I press upon them how important the principle must be then. I’m getting there.

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrea Salford

If you’re anything like I am, you may not want to go out much but you certainly don’t want anyone telling you that you can’t! That’s when the claws come out. I’ve never been good with rules that don’t make logical sense, particularly when proscribed by ignoramuses.

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James Leary #KBF
James Leary #KBF
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Hatred is a much less dangerous emotion than apathy.

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Bruce Reynolds
Bruce Reynolds
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Good man I salute you, your contributions to this forum do not go unnoticed..

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TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Bruce Reynolds

Seconded. There’s an uncanny depth to, and humour in, Richard O’s posts (and many others on here). I spend far more time reading than I do posting, so I don’t always reply to posts which particularly strike me, but they don’t go unnoticed.

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rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Like you I have always been a nonconformist.

Although I have many private pusuits and can easily occupy myself, meaning that I fare much better than most in present circumstances, I have always delighted in meeting people and am generally very social. I have always tried to keep these two facets of life in balance.

What drives me on is my compassion for my fellow human beings, and as with you, the utter impossibility of allowing these violations to occur without doing or saying anything.

I must bear witness, and be able to say: “I did what I could”.

Last edited 4 years ago by rockoman
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Draefend
Draefend
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

I have to say this is one of the things I find fascinating about contributors BTL here. Quite a large number seem, like yourself to be fairly ambivalent about social interaction.

I however, love a crowd, am gregarious and actually find solitude somewhat disconcerting.

Therefore the fact that so many here fight for something that they themselves do not necessarily engage in, makes me rather humble.

I’m not convinced that I’d so readily fight for a cause or argue so vehemently for a lifestyle that I did not engage in myself.

I doff my hat and thank everyone here who sees the bigger picture and keeps pulling these bastards up for every appalling lie that falls like poison from their ghastly mouths.

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  Draefend

I generally dislike people, but I love truth and I despise being made to do something I know is either morally wrong or based in lies.

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BJJ
BJJ
4 years ago
Reply to  Draefend

There was this interview in East Berlin in 1989 with an old lady 90 years old. She was out in the streets celebrating. The Wall had just come down. There came a radio journalist by and asked her: “I see you are celebrating, are you going over to West Berlin?” She said “No I´m not.” “Then why are you so happy?” asked the journalist. “Because I know I can.”

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godowneasy
godowneasy
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Deep respect Richard – very profound. In more sober moments I might write something more but can’t do right now – maybe tomorrow.

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awildgoose
awildgoose
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Well said.

I’m a bit of an introvert and misanthrope myself.

However, I depise having the option to enjoy simple pleasures like heading out on a Friday night to have a beer or two removed with zero debate, discussion, or rationality.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Thanks Richard, I empathise really strongly with this. One of the things I hated until recently was the adoption of the European greeting of kissing each other on each cheek. So annoying, superficial and prone to faux pas. Mwah, mwah, what a load of bollocks.

Now though I go out of my way to instigate it, as well as unnecessary hugging and vigorous hand shaking to confirm masculine pecking orders. The hand shaking especially confuses the alpha male pretenders (i.e. 99%) who are shitting themselves with the danger.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

My old man drummed into me that I should never trust a man with a limp handshake. Consequently I have always gone for the bone crushing grip at every opportunity. Who would have thought that this would become an offence punishable by a fixed penalty notice?

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Hellonearth
Hellonearth
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

You have absolutely hit everything on the head as far as any people who are remotely human and have any compassion for their fellow beings. I am completely pissed so please forgive my ramblings and spelling/ grammar mistakes. I am not the most social of people and have always been the quiet and behind the door person, but this shitshow has made me rise up beyond the parapet and I will not lie down and take this without a fight. I hate these bastards with every fibre of my being and will not accept what they want me to, they are vile and murdering scum. Richard, you and many others on here are the only reason I haven’t thrown in the towel, I am struggling big time.

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
4 years ago
Reply to  Hellonearth

You’re spot on and very coherent for someone who is completely pissed! What makes us empathetic is that we can see beyond our own needs and preferences and fight for what is right and just. We are the least selfish people — fighting for other people’s kids if we don’t have our own, being indignant about restrictions that don’t necessarily affect us, caring about business owners even if we are financially secure. Please don’t throw in the towel — we need you!

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Hellonearth
Hellonearth
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

Thanks Lisa, you are great and I have read so many of your posts for a long time. Thank god we have people like you, Richard and so many on here who have enabled people like myself to remain even remotely sane. I am not as educated and clever as many on here, but my soul tells me that I am right and I will not bow down to the evil and tyrannical dictatorship. Love to you all out there fighting and believing in the truth. I’m off to bed, my head is spinning and I’m paying now for the bottle(s) of wine that I have drunk.

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

I think you just haven’t found your people…until now. You’d definitely like some of us! My husband hates large social gatherings and I’m no big fan, but we never thought of ourselves as anti-social. He’s always been suspicious of people and I have always assumed the best in people until proven otherwise. The problem with this last year is the proven otherwise part. I trust nobody now and am wary even among old friends and acquaintances (when I’m able to be around people). I’ve never been one to hide my opinions or care what others think of me, so it’s been hard to hold back in an attempt not to lose friends. But I have my line in the sand — if you think I am not entitled to health freedom then you are dead to me. Like you, I couldn’t live with myself if I didn’t fight back in the small ways in which I am able. I do have kids so they are a motivating factor. I commend you for your fighting spirit and appreciate your contributions to this community. You are among friends!

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

“I have always assumed the best in people until proven otherwise”

For me it’s the other way around. Any stranger by default is a threat until proven otherwise. For me it has been this way for decades and is nothing new. The ongoing catastrophe has a few meagre silver linings, one of them being that I was right to assume this about most people.

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Nymeria
Nymeria
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

We should get married, Richard!

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

We have a war to win first. Nothing else matters at this point.

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

I totally agree. I live in the middle of nowhere and have been effectively self-isolating for the past 25 years. I avoid social gatherings whenever possible but that’s my choice. Others (including Mrs F), are more sociable and I understand that so I hate the fact that normality has been stolen from them by a bunch of tin pot tyrants who have become intoxicated by their own sense of importance and want to hang on to their supreme power without regard to the precious time they are stealing and the lives they are destroying.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  Steven F

I have lived alone for 20 years, and I wouldn’t have it any other way. That you have been able to sustain a marriage is therefore worthy of high praise. I have no idea how you deal with another person in your face 24/7 like that under these circumstances, even if they agree with your viewpoint.

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

She very much does agree with my viewpoint and has spent just as much time on this site as I have since it began last spring. And she’s not in my face at all. She keeps me sane(ish) and I endeavour to do the same for her. She’s also very patient considering we haven’t been on holiday since we moved up here to the wilds of Cumbria in ’96. But she would like to go out and get a change of scenery from time to time. She likes live music and she likes a crowd round her at least a few times a year. And she hasn’t been very well so I’m more than pissed off that her few pleasures have been denied her.

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
4 years ago

Got to observe, the longer this goes on, the more fantastical the narrative lies and propaganda the greater the sceptics numbers swell. At least amongst my own circle. ‘Slowly slowly catch a monkey’.

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrea Salford

The problem is most of the pussies will take the vaccine when there is even just a little bit of pressure.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  jb12

Let them have it. Even if it is our death knell once there is an absolute majority of the population that has been stabbed. If their world comes to pass, the living will envy the dead.

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jb12
jb12
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Not so easy when you have a young family to care for. In a way, I envy my friends who have no ties.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  jb12

You are in the toughest position of all, but have the greatest motivation to carry the fight to the enemy. The future of your flesh and blood is on the line here. Do not envy those of us with no ties, it can and does lead to careless and self-destructive nihilism that doesn’t help anyone, least of all ourselves.

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  jb12

Yes many will have the vaccine and for them I hope to god it’s not dangerous because I can’t stop them. But they expect it to end on those terms. There are 12million plus (plus us). They won’t be fobbed off with ‘still need to isolate’ crap.

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BJJ
BJJ
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrea Salford

Absolutely. The narrative is falling apart. Extremism abounds. This is coming to an end.

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Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago

”Conformed covid cases pass 4 million mark.”
Oh yeah.

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Dodderydude
Dodderydude
4 years ago

Maybe I am mistaken but it seems to me that, now that the numbers of ‘cases’ and ‘deaths’ are reported to be declining, there is suddenly an absence of horror stories in the media about young healthy people dying suddenly from covid or posting selfies on Facebook about their horrendous experience that’s like no other. These stories appear to have been usurped by articles such as “Was Dixon of Dock Green the Met’s first gay policeman?”, which appeared in the Daily Mail today. For once I am overjoyed to see such banal opinion pieces taking prominence! Maybe covid stories are, at long last, no longer de rigueur.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago
Reply to  Dodderydude

Smokescreens and red herrings. There are a lot of them about.
What’s really going on?

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

Superficially it looks like a tactical withdrawal after the battering the Zero Covid approach took this week. Conceding a little territory and consolidating for the next almighty barrage.

This is WW1 all over again, but in the mind, not the flesh.

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Andrea Salford
Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  Dodderydude

Confining lockdown restrictions and face mask wearing to page 7 is just part of the ‘normalising’ scam.

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Caramel
Caramel
4 years ago

Is there a good Twitter, article, blog resource that specifically has takedowns of Neil O’Brien’s covidfaq site? Aside from LS of course.

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leggy
leggy
4 years ago
Reply to  Caramel

Does a pretty good job by itself if you ask me. Sorry if that’s unhelpful though!

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thomasm1964
thomasm1964
4 years ago

I visited:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/datasets/vitalstatisticspopulationandhealthreferencetables

There, I downlaoded their Excel spreadhseet:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/datasets/vitalstatisticspopulationandhealthreferencetables/current/vitalstatsannualreferencetable20201.xlsx

I went to the Deaths worskheet and saw it had years, death toll and – most importantly – death rates per 1,000.

I hid all columns on that page except for the three just mentioned. I then inserted a row for 2020 (the spreadsheet only goes up to 2019).

Once I had created the row, I entered 2020, 697,000 and 10.3. The 10.3 figure I calculated by dividing 697,000 deaths by an estimated population of 678,886,011 and multiplying by 1,000.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9140499/More-600-000-people-died-England-Wales-2020.html

The article says there were just shy of 697,000 deaths but I took the higher number.

My population estimate came from Worldometers earlier today. It was estimated as at 12th. February 2021 but won’t be significantly out of whack.

(697,000 / 67,886,011) x 1,000 = 10.3 (rounded up).

Having entered the figures,, I copied the Deaths worksheet to a new worksheet which I called Deaths By Worst Year.

The ONS spreadsheet goes back to 1838 but the death rate numbers only go back to 1953, the year in whch Queen Elizabether was crowned. So I removed all the row relating to 1952 and prior.

This gave me a data set which I sorted, from largest to smallest on the death rate column as the first key and the year as the second key.

Now that was an eye-opener!

It turns out that 2020 was only the 49th. worst year for deaths as measure per 1,000 ppulation since 1953. In other words, 48 of the Queen’s 67 years on the throne were worse than last year! Last year itself was exactly the same, pro-rata, as 2003, was better than 2000, only a smidgin worse than 2001 and 2002, significanty better than 1999 and so on.

Anyone with half decent spreadsheet skills can replicate the steps I took and see for themselves.

And for this, Johnson, Hancock, Gove, Schapp and their evil coterie of tame poltiical scientists are destroying everything.

This needs to be screamed from the rooftops!

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Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
4 years ago

Asymptomatic an oxymoron how fitting.
https://youtu.be/yKxM4ToLLR8

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

Brilliant!

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awildgoose
awildgoose
4 years ago

More happy Friday news – knives are out for Killer Cuomo from every angle:

https://nypost.com/2021/02/12/cuomo-lied-and-covered-it-up-we-need-a-federal-investigation-to-find-the-truth/

I guess he didn’t realize what Bolsheviks do to useful idiots once they attain power.

Last edited 4 years ago by awildgoose
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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  awildgoose

I am often reminded of the G. Edward Griffin interview with Yuri Bezmenov. Whether or not he really was a KGB defector, what he said rings true today more than ever before.

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Cheezilla
Cheezilla
4 years ago

When people express their dismay that they can’t take a holiday, I find I have to catch myself because the articles are usually for the retired middle class customers of the press and I don’t relate to the “victims”.

It’s easy to dismiss holidays as frivolous if they’re not something you’re particularly bothered about yourself. I personally hate flying and won’t be bothered if I can’t travel abroad – though I do worry I won’t be allowed to see my son and his family if internal travel threats are carried through.

However, to those people living in cramped accommodation who look forward to a change of scenery and some sunshine with their kids, it can be the highlight of a pretty mundane life. To the young people who are working from home squashed in a house share or bedsit, it could be the carrot that’s kept them sane.

The holiday fiasco has been a very useful smokescreen for whatever HMG has really been up to this week. But, even if we have no intention of every going abroad again, we must fight this for those who would. For those who have families abroad, and just for the sake of freedom for freedom’s sake.

I see that, if we dismiss the travel passport idea as no problem because “it won’t affect me”, then we fall into the same category as those furloughed who aren’t feeling the pain of lockdown.

Besides, Lockdown Sceptics know this isn’t about a “vaccine passport” merely for going on holiday.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

Very well said. Like you I disliked flying but endured it in order to reach the destinations. Post 9/11 the flying experience as a whole was abysmal, but now, even if it were allowed, it is so disgusting as to be completely unacceptable. Moreover, most of the places I used to visit have been so poisoned by the Covid Cult that they would be unbearable.

Nevertheless the idea of a vaccine passport must be defeated, because as you say it will not be just for international travel.

Last edited 4 years ago by Richard O
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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

A friend asked me if I missed being in Spain this winter. I was there this time last year and had to beat a hasty retreat back to Canada right before they locked down. My answer was a hard NO — I do not miss Spain as it’s a mask wearing hellhole right now. I hold out a bit of hope that perhaps we’ll be able to drive to Florida or the other sane states one day, but the idea of international travel makes me sick to my stomach at the moment.

I totally agree that the “vaccine passport” has nothing whatsoever to do with travel. I will not comply.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

Get down to Florida if you can, and then stay there. DeSantis is not taking any shit from the Woke Clown Covid Administration in DC. Don’t let porn star Trudeau fuck up your life anymore.

Last edited 4 years ago by Richard O
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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

He’s fucking with us pretty good at the moment. All the Canadians who spend winters in the US must get back to Canada by February 22nd or face the 3-day imprisonment at a cost of $2,000 per person. Plus the border is closed to car traffic and who knows if/when it’ll ever open up. No going to Florida until the border is open and no forced imprisonment at my own expense upon returning. And, of course, this also assumes no “vaccine passport.” I’m not super hopeful.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

This is the New British Covid Empire. The Five Eyes are under a particularly brutal assault. I’ve said it before though, our governments have been dishing it out worldwide for centuries, particularly the UK and USA. Now it’s domestic payback time.

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Bertha
Bertha
4 years ago

This isn’t new. But we must have a clear and concise message to take out there.

More and more average folk are getting pissed off with the ‘lockdown’ , but need direction.

1. 12 weeks to flatten the curve. A year ago . Why are we still in this situation?

2. The vaccine will save you. You’ve had the vaccine. Can you go out now?

3. Do you know how many people die every year?

4. The schools are closed causing much grief. How many children and teachers, do you know who have died from this?

I have found challenging the lock down fanatics leaves a gaping silence.

Do not be afraid. Take it to them. They are waiting for us. To take the lead.

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OKUK
OKUK
4 years ago
Reply to  Bertha

Here are the Lockdowner responses and further rispostes:

1.”Because we didn’t lock down early enough and hard enough.” So how do you explain Belgium and Peru experiencing such high rates after they locked down early and strictly? And why have there not been national lockdowns in China, Taiwan, Japan and South Korea?

2.”We have to vaccinate enough people”. Why do you have to vaccinate healthy young people who don’t suffer seriously from the virus if the vaccine is effective?

3.”That’s callous. Every life matters.” If every life matters equally why do NICE make decisions about what lilfe saving drugs can be used based on their cost benefit analysis of efficacy and affordability. Would you be prepared to sacrifice chiildren’s education and happiness to save just one 85 year old from dying of Covid this month as opposed to the flu the next month?

4.”But children can be infectious. They can put adults at risk.” How long are you prepared to see children’s education and life chances being ruined by lockdown? Another six months, another year, another two years, another six years?

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Nymeria
Nymeria
4 years ago

I’ve been out this evening. Good thing Wancock doesn’t know. There were around 30 of us, up close and having fun. Lots of chatter, laughter and drinking. Very much a normal Friday night of those better times we used to have. I’m temporarily happy now; I know it won’t last. I’ll leave you with the latest response from my MP who I wrote to this week.

Thank you for contacting me about new restrictions to suppress the spread of COVID-19.

I appreciate that this is a very challenging time for everybody and that there are differing opinions on how best to deal with the coronavirus pandemic. Nevertheless, I firmly believe that in being guided by the science, the Government has made difficult but proportionate decisions.

I understand that lockdowns and other restrictions have caused enormous stress and disruption to people’s lives. I also understand that lockdowns do cause other side effects and we must be mindful of these when considering policy options.
I know how frustrating it is, after the hard work and sacrifices that were made throughout 2020, to start the new year with further restrictions in place.

The Government does not take these decisions lightly, and has worked to use local measures to target the virus which enable businesses to open, children to attend schools, and friends and family to meet where the incidence of the virus is lower. Sadly, this new strain of the virus means that these measures are no longer sufficient, and you must only leave home for limited reasons permitted in law.

Herd immunity is not considered to be a pragmatic or appropriate solution to the current situation and has never been part of the UK’s strategy action plan. It would be irresponsible to allow the virus to spread through our communities unimpeded and allow our hospitals to be overwhelmed. While it is true that many may not experience serious illness from coronavirus, there remain many people who would die of this disease.

Stricter measures impact on all our lives, but I urge everyone to play their part by following the rules.

I agree with the Prime Minister that, while the weeks ahead will be hard, we are entering the last phase of the struggle.

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

Which MP might that be?

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Nymeria
Nymeria
4 years ago
Reply to  Steven F

Marco Longhi

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

Thanks. I like to put names to the responses posted here so that I can see which ones might see reason eventually and which ones are beyond hope. The majority are in the latter category, of course, and yours looks like one of them. Mine too. Simon Fell. Says he has “libertarian instincts” but he seems to suppress them quite effectively whenever there’s a vote.

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Nymeria
Nymeria
4 years ago
Reply to  Steven F

This latest response is an “improvement” to the previous two replies from him, one of which was basically a cut and paste of the first. I knew he was a lost cause when I saw a photo of him in the local newspaper, posing outside one of the vaccination centres.

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Steven F
Steven F
4 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

Mine just stopped replying to anything I sent. Letters or emails. No response now. Not even an acknowledgement from his PA. On the other hand I’ve written to Desmond Swayne and Charles Walker and, although they’re constituencies are far away from here, they both acknowledged and have even found time for a brief personal response. Manners maketh the MP.

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Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
Lisa (formerly) from Toronto
4 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

Well, I’m glad you had a fun night out. The rest is just bullshit. Well written, but crappy nonetheless. My only follow-up question would be: Define “last phase” of the struggle. With the goal posts being moved on a regular basis, forgive me for not believing you.

Take some solace in your very normal Friday night and know that you will have many more of them regardless of the idiotic restrictions.

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Nymeria
Nymeria
4 years ago
Reply to  Lisa (formerly) from Toronto

I think we were into the “last phase” in April 2020, and have been in and out of the ever since. It was good to get out, Lisa, and just listen to the buzz of the conversation. Something which seems from another world now.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

“I agree with the Prime Minister that, while the weeks ahead will be hard, we are entering the last phase of the struggle.”

False at so many levels it beggars belief. First and foremost, how can any MP in their right mind believe that only the “weeks ahead” will be hard? Maybe these pricks have bought into the brainwashing as much as Mr. and Mrs. Lockdownhardearlyforever.

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Richard O
Richard O
4 years ago

I recommend Phucemol (as widely advertised in the alternative). It’s a great drug, with highly satisfactory results. The side effects are initially debilitating, but in time are easily overcome.

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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard O

Ha ha. Took me a minute to catch on there.

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bebophaircut
bebophaircut
4 years ago

Support this young man’s March for Freedom.

https://delingpole.podbean.com
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Josh.February 12, 2021
Proud, defiant Englishman Josh – @remedysounds on Twitter, @lionheartengland on Telegram – talks about his journey from Royal Marine commando to snowboarding musician to voice of the resistance against the Covid Nazis. Raise the White Dragon flag!

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