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Government Planning “Phased” Exit Strategy

Bob Moran’s cartoon in the Telegraph on January 15th

The Telegraph reports that ministers are working on a “three-stage” plan to end lockdown in Britain, with officials preferring a phased approach where restrictions are eased at least a month apart so the impact can be monitored.

Schools will not open until March at the earliest, Boris Johnson has said, as the Government works on a “three-stage plan” to release Britain from lockdown.

The Telegraph understands that officials are working on proposals which could see most shops closed until April, and pubs and restaurants shut until May. 

On Wednesday, Mr Johnson announced that schools will not reopen before March 8th, and even that would depend on the success of the vaccine rollout and the rate of COVID-19 deaths and cases. 

Promising to publish a “roadmap” on February 22nd, he said that would allow Britain to “begin steadily to reclaim our lives”.

No rush, eh.

The Mail reports today that the slow pace may be because the Government wants to lift restrictions nationally rather than returning to local tiers to avoid spread from hotspots (and annoying Andy Burnham). This will mean no areas can reopen until the worst hit area in the country is free of infection.

The saddest part is they still think they can “control” the virus.

An NHS Nurse Writes…

Patients wait on hospital trolleys in a corridor in December 2017 due to the wards being completely full

A Lockdown Sceptics reader and registered nurse who has been working in NHS hospitals throughout the crisis has written the following article for us about his experience.

Matt Hancock said that there are 37,475 patients in hospitals in the UK with coronavirus – yet no context was offered. So there are approximately 120,000 NHS beds in England, which would make Hancock’s figure around 30% of NHS England bed capacity (and that’s not taking into account bed capacity of Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland). That also doesn’t take into account extra potential capacity from private hospitals nor the Nightingale hospitals. A headline grabbing statistic like “37,000 Covid admissions” might sound alarming, but without context it is meaningless.

It is also important to stress that this figure of 37,475 are patients admitted for any health reason, with a positive PCR test on admission or within the last 14 days – it is definitely not 37,000 patients who are unwell with Covid respiratory symptoms.

Patients are tested on admission to determine whether to be put in “green” or “red” areas. I have seen first-hand patients admitted to hospital for completely unrelated conditions, nil Covid symptoms, but have a positive PCR test on admission. These go down as “Covid admissions” but they are actually admitted for conditions completely unrelated to the respiratory system, such as heart failure or kidney disease.

I am sure by now we all have known somebody who has had a positive Covid test result but no symptoms. This is true also for hospitalised patients being admitted for other reasons – massively inflating the “Covid admission” numbers.

I have also had first-hand experience of patients who have been admitted into hospital for an unrelated reason, and caught Covid whilst there (nosocomial infection)  – and then they also go down in the NHS statistics as Covid admissions.

Hancock’s figures without context are not only unhelpful, they are misleading the public.

Surprisingly, NHS bed occupancy rates are at relatively low levels for this time of year. So are the staff on the wards lying? No they are not. I know first-hand how busy it feels, but I see four main reasons to explain why it feels so busy:

(1) Staff self-isolating – this is causing huge numbers of staff to be off work. I feel the impact of this first-hand in my ward. On a regular basis we have staff awaiting a test, as they or someone in their household has a symptom, however mild. I am sure most my colleagues are genuinely concerned not to be infected and pass it on to their vulnerable patients, so are acting ultra cautiously. But there is also room to milk the system, as it is fully paid time off work, and not counted as “sick leave”. Nurses are absolutely hard working people – but we are only human too, not saints. As soon as the decision is made to get a test, then we cannot return to work until PCR tested and the result comes back negative. Reduced staffing is causing the NHS significant strain.

(2) Thousands of NHS beds have been removed. This is not due to budget cuts this time (which in fact have reduced NHS beds significantly year on year) but due to social distancing requirements. I have experienced this first-hand: the hospitals I work in have removed beds for social distancing regulations, which has meant the departments fill up much quicker, and can cause backlog in the system.

(3) Regulations such as donning and doffing PPE (which is actually very time consuming when done properly) – and segregating patients in “green zones” or “red zones” – causes logistical problems, making workloads much busier and much more stressful.

(4) A huge amount of bed capacity has been lost due to a lack of NHS funded nursing home beds. Previously, the NHS funded beds in nursing homes to take “medically fit” elderly who were awaiting care packages to begin from social services – these beds were referred to as “hub beds” in my Trust. However, at the moment this option seems to be unavailable (for understandable reasons, as nursing homes were not “Covid safe” environments during the spring). This results in “bed blocking” in the hospital, and causes a backlog further down, ultimately filling A&E.

I’m not saying that hospitals are not busy – they are incredibly busy, particularly ICUs in London and the South East. What I am saying is the amount of patients coming in to the hospitals is not unprecedented. It is the policy decisions that are making this period feel unprecedented, and not the actual crude work load.

This is so important to understand as the severe restrictions on our lives are justified in order to “protect the NHS”. I therefore feel obligated to speak out, as how I am experiencing my work within the NHS is not quite how the media is portraying it.

The image above is from December 2017. It is a photograph of patients on hospital trolleys due to the wards being completely full – the NHS was in crisis. Yet we didn’t realise how good we had it – back then we had no staff self-isolating, more hospital beds, no routine time-consuming PPE requirements, and better discharge flow of patients out of hospitals. It is decisions by NHS policymakers that are making this winter feel so much worse.

A Senior Scientist Writes…

Professor Susan Michie, who sits on both SAGE and Independent SAGE and is a member of the Communist Party

A Lockdown Sceptics reader who is a senior scientist has done a fact check on the claims of two psychologists who sit on SAGE.

In a January 9th BBC report – “Lockdown needs to be stricter, scientists warn” – Professor Robert West (of the SPI-B subgroup of SAGE) said the current rules were “still allowing a lot of activity which is spreading the virus”. Professor Susan Michie (also of SAGE, and also Independent SAGE, and a Community Party member) said the spread of the new more infectious variant meant the restrictions were “too lax”.

Oops…

Daily positive cases in England

This time round we have seen a relaxing of the restrictions compared with March. Many business are open this time that were closed last time, roads are busy, yes schools are closed, but in some areas more than 50% are attending. Yet still the virus has receded.

 What hasn’t changed since March? Those in care homes and hospitals are not being protected.

 Care Homes:

  • Since September 1st there have been 5,496 (35%) care home outbreaks
  • In the three weeks to January 17th there were 1,948 outbreaks
  • Nearly a third of all Covid deaths have been among care home residents

Hospital-Acquired Infections (HAIs) rates:

  • There have been 11,376 HAIs in January (January 1st to 24th), 14.1% of all admissions
  • Mortality in HAIs likely very high – likely approaching 50%

Who has lockdown protected? From the ONS:

There were 7,961 deaths involving COVID-19 in the working-age population (age 20 to 64 years) of England and Wales registered between March 9th and December 28th 2020. When looking at broad groups of occupations, men who worked in elementary occupations (699 deaths) or caring, leisure and other service occupations (258 deaths) had the highest rates of death involving COVID-19, with 66.3 and 64.1 deaths per 100,000 males, respectively.

I’d call this focused protection for the well-off and not for those that require protecting.

Council of Europe Decrees Vaccines Must Not be Mandatory and the Non-Vaccinated Must Not be Discriminated Against

The European Court of Human Rights, part of the Council of Europe

The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe – the international body of which the European Court of Human Rights is a part (not to be confused with the EU, and of which Britain remains a member) – has passed a resolution that vaccines must not be mandatory and no one should suffer discrimination on account of not having been vaccinated. It reads:

7.3 with respect to ensuring high vaccine uptake:

7.3.1 ensure that citizens are informed that the vaccination is NOT mandatory and that no one is politically, socially, or otherwise pressured to get themselves vaccinated, if they do not wish to do so themselves;

7.3.2 ensure that no one is discriminated against for not having been vaccinated, due to possible health risks or not wanting to be vaccinated;

While most of the resolution is a depressing regurgitation of Covid orthodoxy (“non-pharmaceutical interventions have helped slow down the spread of the virus”, “following the festive season, with its traditional indoor gatherings, infection rates will likely be very high in most member States”, “the vaccines will no doubt not be sufficient to bring down infection rates significantly this winter… A semblance of ‘normal life’ will thus not be able to resume until mid to late 2021 at the earliest” “the Assembly urges member States to take early effective measures to counter misinformation, disinformation and hesitancy regarding COVID-19 vaccines”) this clear statement of the longstanding principle that medical treatment should be voluntary is welcome.

Unfortunately, some people have other ideas. Matthew Lynn in the Telegraph wrote a shocking article, arguing that “no jab, no job policy should be the law“.

There are lots of jobs where you can’t work from home, and plenty of factories and offices that will remain closed if people don’t get vaccinated. Of course, no one should be forced to take the vaccine if they don’t want to. But they have to accept it may limit their employment options. Businesses already face plenty of uncertainty without the additional anxiety of a blizzard of legal claims.

The solution is simple. Parliament should legislate for no jab, no job this week – and that way everyone will know where they stand and can start planning for the future…

Of course, no one should be forced to take the shot if they don’t want to. There is an argument for mandatory vaccination, but it is a huge infringement of civil liberties, and we have probably seen enough of those in the past year to last a lifetime. People should be free to choose. But that doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be any consequences of their decision.

There are plenty of countries where you are only allowed in with a vaccination certificate, and it is up to you whether you want to travel there or not. In the same way, anyone who prefers not to be vaccinated may have to accept it limits their employment opportunities. If they don’t like that, tough…

Parliament should pass a one-line bill this week making it clear that it is legal to discriminate on the grounds of whether a person has been vaccinated against COVID-19, and that no claims on the grounds of unfair dismissal will be accepted. That will settle the matter once and for all, and stop the employment lawyers and unions in their tracks.

Meanwhile, Germany’s vaccine committee has said that the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine should only be given to under-65s, stating there is “insufficient data to judge how effective the vaccination is above 65 years”. This is a blow for the vaccine which is much cheaper and easier to store than others like Pfizer’s and Moderna’s, and which Britain is relying on heavily for its reopening strategy, meaning we need it to work among the most vulnerable. The European Medicines Agency’s decision is due later today.

Stop Press: The Novavax vaccine has been found to be 89% effective and to work well against the Kent Covid variant in trials. It will now go to be considered for approval by the MHRA. Britain has 60 million doses on order, which will be produced at Stockton on Tees, and if approved it will take Britain’s vaccine doses total to 217 million. The Novavax vaccine is closer to a traditional type of vaccine than the mRNA Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, containing purified pieces of the spike protein that are administered with an adjuvant, a molecule that enhances the immune response.

Stop Press 2: New research in Israel suggests the Pfizer vaccine with both doses administered is “99.96% effective”.

“You Might As Well Use Your Passport for Target Practice”

Professor Sharon Peacock thinks the possibility of new Covid variants means restrictions need to continue indefinitely

There follows a guest post by Lockdown Sceptics regular Guy de la Bédoyère

Since the spirit of the age is “following the science”, it’s good to have an idea where the science is leading us. Radio 4’s World at One January 28th interviewed Professor Sharon Peacock of the University of Cambridge, executive director of the COVID-19 Genomics UK (COG-UK) consortium.

This is a transcript of the latter part of the interview. Nothing Professor Peacock said about COVID-19 should occasion any surprise since the potential risks to life from this virus and its mutated forms she outlined have always existed with respect to any virus and will always exist, though she made all this sound like a new discovery. Like everyone else I have lived with the risk of viruses since I was born but am lucky enough to live in a time when vaccines were at least one way of reducing that risk and allowing us to lead normal lives.

Not any more apparently. Now the science would have it that vaccines apparently no longer have that power. I shall be there to receive my vaccine when the invitation arrives, but according to Professor Peacock it isn’t going to be quite the game-changer the Prime Minister said it would be.

What appears to have changed is that this version of the science would like us to close the borders on what seems to be a totally open-ended basis and predicated on the notion that a vaccine-resistant, highly transmissible COVID-19 variant that causes far more severe illness might be mutating into existence right this minute. So indeed it might, but whether that means we should spend our lives gibbering with terror and hiding in our houses is another matter altogether.

Professor Peacock apparently cannot see an end in sight for COVID-19 and even if there was to be an end, I was left in no doubt that her fears will simply be transferred to something else.

I don’t know what your holiday plans were this year, next year, or at any time probably for most of the rest of your life, but if the government follows this advice you might as well use your passport for target practice.

Sarah Montague: The vaccine programme is going well in the UK, and it suggests there might be light at the end of the tunnel. But I wonder whether that light is brighter if you shut the borders?

Sharon Peacock: Well, through sequencing what we’ve shown is a very clear signal of importations both in Wave 1 and in Wave 2. And so COG-UK, which is the consortium that I lead, undertook sequencing of viruses from people in the first wave, and then they compared those sequences to see where they may have actually come from. And we know that from that study there were at least 1,300 importations into the country around the half-term during spring. Now, that’s an underestimate because we only sequenced around 10 percent of all the viruses or possible cases and that when we looked at that it was from Spain, Italy, and France predominantly. So we know that importation is really important and during the second wave we saw the importation of another tranche of variants, not of particular concern but new lineages coming into the country in the second wave again largely through holidaymakers and so I think it’s a natural conclusion that border control is absolutely central to control of disease. I think you don’t really need the genomics to prove that but the genomics has been categorical in showing that importation is really vital in terms of COVID-19 spreading in our population

SM: So, you’d like to see borders closed? The logic is that borders should close?

SP: The logic is there but that is not my decision, that of course is a decision for the Government.

SM: What is it that keeps you awake at night, at this stage of the pandemic?

SP: It has to be the emergence of a variant that is fully resistant to circulating vaccines that is also highly transmissible. That would be extremely problematic. I think that if it also had the characteristic that it also caused more severe disease then that would also worry me very much, but we are not there at the moment. That’s certainly what we’re on the look out for every day.

SM: And given your experience with other viruses, how likely is that?

SP: I think it’s really unpredictable. I’m very loath to draw on past experiences because I think there’s been so many surprises in relation to this particular virus. Instead I think I’d much rather look at the practical side of making sure that we have got all the tools in place to watch for emerging variants that could be of concern and bringing to a close the clusters of cases of people who have a virus that could be more resistant than others.

SM: So much is unknown and so much can’t be predicted but what is your assessment of when we are going to be largely out of this?

SP: As a scientist and a geneticist I would say that we have a very long-term job on our hands. I don’t think that I’m going to put a figure on that. All I know is that we have work ahead of us to continue to monitor mutations.

SM: For years ahead?

SP: Years, yes. I think it’s very unlikely that this virus is just going to disappear off the planet.

So, er, just like all the other viruses we have learned to live with in the past without shutting everything down which haven’t disappeared off the planet either? I don’t know how she sleeps at night.

What this interview illustrated very effectively is the monumentally difficult decisions the government is facing. Either it carries on ‘following the science’ in a perpetual hunt for total risk-free safety, ridden with fear of the theoretical Vaccine-Resistant Killer Super-Virus that Professor Peacock, who I am sure is an outstanding scientist in her field, is petrified of night and day; or it weighs up risk against quality of life and returns to normality on the basis the Killer Virus might never happen. Who’s to say what’s the right path to take?

It was, perhaps, one of those cases in which advice is good or bad only as the event decides.

Jane Austen, Persuasion, chapter 23

But I suppose the real question is: if we cut ourselves off from a life worth living to protect us from the theoretical Killer Super-Virus which then indeed duly turns up, whether by then anyone left will care one way or the other?

Sceptics Under Fire

A Lockdown Sceptics reader copied us into his letter to the Evening Standard complaining about its unbalanced reporting of the criticism of Sir Desmond Swayne MP. We reproduce it here.

Dear Evening Standard,

I refer to an article about the recent comments made by MP Desmond Swayne on your website. The entire piece is written in a highly biased way, and attempts unfairly to conflate Mr Swayne’s anti-lockdown stance with anti-vax and Covid-denialist views. This is apparent in the headline, in which Swayne’s name is used alongside the term “anti-vaccine”, despite the fact that within the article itself Mr Swayne clearly declares his support for the vaccination programme. The lead paragraph goes on to state that Mr Swayne has been “accused of spreading ‘dangerous misinformation’” and that he “urged anti-vaccination campaigners to continue fighting against restrictions and told them NHS capacity figures were being ‘manipulated’.” Whilst taken as a whole the article does provide both viewpoints, the prominence given to the misrepresentations of Swayne’s views and the tendentious vocabulary used in the headline and early sections of the piece are a clear attempt to damn him by association. I note that a similar negative framing has occurred on other articles on your site (e.g. here).

The first article goes on to mention comments made by Swayne in November 2020, when he stated that Covid figures were “bouncing round at the typical level of deaths for the time of year”. What is the relevance of mentioning something that he said three months ago before the winter spike? The second article also quotes his November remarks at length. The first piece goes on to state that “Sir Desmond has denied that he is opposed to vaccinating people to protect them against the virus. But he has previously labelled lockdowns a ‘complete failure’.” The ‘but’ here is crucial, implying that there is a link between anti-vaxxers and anti-lockdowners. Why are you attempting to draw a link between the two viewpoints, as if they have anything in common?

The article goes on to quote, uncritically, two people who oppose his views (or rather, their misconstrual of his views). I note that no supporters of Mr Swayne are mentioned or quoted. The Labour MP Angela Rayner (CC’d) is quoted as saying that Swayne has “endorsed conspiracy theories” (false) and that he has stated that Covid statistics have been manipulated “for which there is no evidence” (debatable – the fact that anyone dying within 28 days of a positive test counts as a Covid death means that inevitably the death figure ends up being somewhat inflated – whether that counts as “manipulation” is a matter of debate). She goes on to imply that he doesn’t support the vaccination programme – an out and out lie. Imran Ahmed of the CCDH (CC’d) is also quoted, saying that Swayne has “lended [sic] legitimacy to crank Anti-Vaxxers and peddlers of falsehoods” (false) and that “turning science into a political football is a Trumpian act of grotesque irresponsibility” (Swayne did no such thing – he is merely holding the Government to account, something the media should be doing). As an aside, I fail to see the relevance of seeking views from a man who runs an anti-hate speech organisation when we are discussing matters of Covid policy.

A narrative has been created by various governments which aims to conflate those who oppose lockdown measures (for a variety of reasons) with the minority of Covid-denialists, conspiracy theorists, anti-vaxxers and the like, a narrative which has been eagerly propagandised by a largely compliant media. The overwhelming number of people who oppose lockdowns are not conspiracy theorists, but merely concerned citizens opposed to the wanton destruction of our economies, our children’s’ education, mass unemployment, business failures, the stripping away of our basic rights on an indefinite basis, the deliberate stoking of fear and hysteria, and the McCarthy-esque witch-hunting of those holding dissenting views. Your deliberate misrepresentation of Mr Swayne’s comments is a clear attempt to damn by association anyone who opposes lockdown, and is unfit for a news organ that seeks to report the news in a fair and impartial manner.    

Sincerely,    

D Martin

Stop Press: Disappointingly, Leader of the House of Commons Jacob Rees-Mogg has backed Neil O’Brien in his anti-sceptic witch-hunt. The Byline Times reports, in typically even-handed style.

Speaking yesterday on his regular podcast with the blog ConservativeHome, Leader of the House of Commons Jacob Rees-Mogg expressed admiration for O’Brien.

“People should be held to account for what they say, and I think Neil has done a fantastic job and has influenced the debate by putting the facts forward,” he said, adding that, “in an era of fake news, it is important that people challenge news and put the alternative points of view, or correct facts.”

Rees-Mogg also said that the Harborough, Oadby and Wigston MP has been making his arguments forcefully on WhatsApp groups populated by Conservative MPs. “Neil has also been putting very helpful pieces of information on Conservative WhatsApp groups, so that Conservative MPs see the arguments as well,” he said.

O’Brien has gained prominence on Twitter in recent weeks, after directing fire at a number of prominent lockdown sceptics, most notably commentator Toby Young and talkRADIO host Julia Hartley-Brewer. He has been particularly assiduous in pointing out the false wisdom of lockdown sceptics early in the Coronavirus pandemic – for example when Young predicted that there would be no second wave of the virus.

Rees-Mogg’s comments seem to imply that he – and by extension the Government  – believe that commentators such as Young and Hartley-Brewer have been disseminating half-truths about the COVID-19 pandemic.

Stop Press 2: M.L.R. Smith and Niall McCrae in CIEO argue that the “growing prohibition on criticising the Government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic reveals a state as intent on controlling our minds as our bodies”.

Stop Press 3: A lockdown debate took place at the Cambridge Union yesterday. The motion was: “This House believes lockdown was a mistake.” Speaking in favour were Sir Graham Brady MP, Richard Tice and Toby Young, while speaking against were Layla Moran MP, Laura Spinner and Phil Whitaker. The ayes won by 362 votes to 309, a convincing victory. We will post a video of the debate here on Saturday when it goes up on YouTube.

Round-up

Theme Tunes Suggested by Readers

Two today: “Don’t Believe A Word” by Thin Lizzy and “Fiddling the Figures” by DevonMiles.

Love in the Time of Covid

Keri Russell and Matthew Rhys in The Americans

We have created some Lockdown Sceptics Forums, including a dating forum called “Love in a Covid Climate” that has attracted a bit of attention. We have a team of moderators in place to remove spam and deal with the trolls, but sometimes it takes a little while so please bear with us. You have to register to use the Forums as well as post comments below the line, but that should just be a one-time thing. Any problems, email the Lockdown Sceptics webmaster Ian Rons here.

Sharing Stories

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Woke Gobbledegook

We’ve decided to create a permanent slot down here for woke gobbledegook. Today, it’s the list of 44 schools that are to be renamed by the San Francisco Unified School District because they are named after supposedly “controversial” public figures, including former Presidents George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, current Senator Dianne Feinstein and Robert Louis Stevenson, the author of Treasure Island. What was RLS’s sin? Stereotyping pirates?

Comprehensive HIGH schools
1 Balboa High School
2 Abraham Lincoln High School
3 Mission High School
4 George Washington High School

Alternative HIGH schools
5 Lowell High School

Middle schools
6 James Denman Middle School
7 Everett Middle School
8 Herbert Hoover Middle School
9 James Lick Middle School
10 Presidio Middle School
11 Roosevelt Middle School

K-8 schools
12 Lawton Alternative K-8
13 Claire Lilienthal: Madison Campus (Grades K-2) 3950 Sacramento Street
13 Claire Lilienthal: Winfield Scott Campus (Grades 3-8) 3630 Divisadero Street
14 Paul Revere K-8

K-5 Elementary schools
15 Alamo Elementary
16 Alvarado Elementary
17 Bryant Elementary
18 Clarendon Elementary Second Community
18 JBBP (Japanese Bilingual Bicultural Program) at Clarendon
19 El Dorado Elementary
20 Dianne Feinstein Elementary
21 Garfield Elementary
22 Grattan Elementary
23 Jefferson Elementary
24 Francis Scott Key Elementary
25 Frank McCoppin Elementary
26 McKinley Elementary
27 Marshall Elementary
28 Monroe Elementary
29 John Muir Elementary
30 Jose Ortega Elementary
31 Sanchez Elementary
32 Junipero Serra Elementary
33 Sheridan Elementary
34 Sherman Elementary
35 Commodore Sloat Elementary
36 Robert Louis Stevenson Elementary
37 Sutro Elementary
38 Ulloa Elementary
39 Daniel Webster Elementary

EES (Early Education Schools)
40 Jefferson Early Education School
41 Junipero Serra Early Education School
42 Noriega EES
43 Presidio EES
44 Stockton EES

At times like these one often reaches for George Orwell.

Do you realise that the past, starting from yesterday, has been actually abolished? If it survives anywhere, it’s in a few solid objects with no words attached to them, like that lump of glass there. Already we know almost literally nothing about the Revolution and the years before the Revolution. Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right. I know, of course, that the past is falsified, but it would never be possible for me to prove it, even when I did the falsification myself. After the thing is done, no evidence ever remains. The only evidence is inside my own mind, and I don’t know with any certainty that any other human being shares my memories.

George Orwell, “1984”

“Mask Exempt” Lanyards

We’ve created a one-stop shop down here for people who want to obtain a “Mask Exempt” lanyard/card – because wearing a mask causes them “severe distress”, for instance. You can print out and laminate a fairly standard one for free here and the Government has instructions on how to download an official “Mask Exempt” notice to put on your phone here. And if you feel obliged to wear a mask but want to signal your disapproval of having to do so, you can get a “sexy world” mask with the Swedish flag on it here.

Don’t forget to sign the petition on the UK Government’s petitions website calling for an end to mandatory face masks in shops here.

A reader has started a website that contains some useful guidance about how you can claim legal exemption. Another reader has created an Android app which displays “I am exempt from wearing a face mask” on your phone. Only 99p.

If you’re a shop owner and you want to let your customers know you will not be insisting on face masks or asking them what their reasons for exemption are, you can download a friendly sign to stick in your window here.

And here’s an excellent piece about the ineffectiveness of masks by a Roger W. Koops, who has a doctorate in organic chemistry. See also the Swiss Doctor’s thorough review of the scientific evidence here and Prof Carl Heneghan and Dr Tom Jefferson’s Spectator article about the Danish mask study here.

Stop Press: A senior scientist has told Lockdown Sceptics he was involved recently in a discussion about vaccines where the view was expressed that once you’ve been vaccinated it may be better not to wear a mask. The rationale being that circulating vaccine-induced antibody fades over time and that repeated exposure to the virus keeps immunity topped up. (The same, logically, applies to anyone who has had a natural infection.) He added:

Needless to say, adopting this view – which would support the early abandonment of masks as vaccine is rolled out – requires acceptance of the assertion (which many of us doubt) that masks have any protective merit in the first place. It might, however, be a better argument against the wretched things than asserting they are useless – a line that has failed to gain traction.  

The Great Barrington Declaration

Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya

The Great Barrington Declaration, a petition started by Professor Martin Kulldorff, Professor Sunetra Gupta and Professor Jay Bhattacharya calling for a strategy of “Focused Protection” (protect the elderly and the vulnerable and let everyone else get on with life), was launched in October and the lockdown zealots have been doing their best to discredit it ever since. If you googled it a week after launch, the top hits were three smear pieces from the Guardian, including: “Herd immunity letter signed by fake experts including ‘Dr Johnny Bananas’.” (Freddie Sayers at UnHerd warned us about this the day before it appeared.) On the bright side, Google UK has stopped shadow banning it, so the actual Declaration now tops the search results – and Toby’s Spectator piece about the attempt to suppress it is among the top hits – although discussion of it has been censored by Reddit. The reason the zealots hate it, of course, is that it gives the lie to their claim that “the science” only supports their strategy. These three scientists are every bit as eminent – more eminent – than the pro-lockdown fanatics so expect no let up in the attacks. (Wikipedia has also done a smear job.)

You can find it here. Please sign it. Now over three quarters of a million signatures.

Update: The authors of the GBD have expanded the FAQs to deal with some of the arguments and smears that have been made against their proposal. Worth reading in full.

Update 2: Many of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration are involved with new UK anti-lockdown campaign Recovery. Find out more and join here.

Update 3: You can watch Sunetra Gupta set out the case for “Focused Protection” here and Jay Bhattacharya make it here.

Update 4: The three GBD authors plus Prof Carl Heneghan of CEBM have launched a new website collateralglobal.org, “a global repository for research into the collateral effects of the COVID-19 lockdown measures”. Follow Collateral Global on Twitter here. Sign up to the newsletter here.

Judicial Reviews Against the Government

There are now so many legal cases being brought against the Government and its ministers we thought we’d include them all in one place down here.

The Simon Dolan case has now reached the end of the road. The current lead case is the Robin Tilbrook case which challenges whether the Lockdown Regulations are constitutional. You can read about that and contribute here.

Then there’s John’s Campaign which is focused specifically on care homes. Find out more about that here.

There’s the GoodLawProject and Runnymede Trust’s Judicial Review of the Government’s award of lucrative PPE contracts to various private companies. You can find out more about that here and contribute to the crowdfunder here. Latest news is the Government is trying to make the action unaffordable by claiming there is no public interest and spending a million pounds on the thing, which those bringing the review are at risk of having to pay.

There’s the class action lawsuit being brought by Dr Reiner Fuellmich and his team in various countries against “the manufacturers and sellers of the defective product, PCR tests”. Dr Fuellmich explains the lawsuit in this video. Dr Fuellmich has also served cease and desist papers on Professor Christian Drosten, co-author of the Corman-Drosten paper which underpins the SARS-CoV-2 PCR test protocol. That paper was submitted on January 21st and accepted following peer review on January 22nd. The paper has been critically reviewed here by Pieter Borger and colleagues, who have also submitted a retraction request.

And last but not least there was the Free Speech Union‘s challenge to Ofcom over its ‘coronavirus guidance’. A High Court judge refused permission for the FSU’s judicial review on December 9th and the FSU has decided not to appeal the decision because Ofcom has conceded most of the points it was making. Check here for details.

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kpaulsmith1463
kpaulsmith1463
5 years ago

All due apologies for yammering on about New York affairs, but Cuomo infuriates me.
As he should do anyone with a shred of decency.
But I’ll let Styx explain.
He’s far more colourful than I.
(Meaning, ‘F’ bombs AWAY!)
https://youtu.be/r59XM3xVpIk

Tuppence Worth
Tuppence Worth
5 years ago

It would appear that being cursed with the surname “O’Brien” tends to reduce cognitive ability.

I offer a James, a Neil and a general allusion to the generic family name itself (as in 1984) as evidence.

Perhaps the latter was right concerning “re-education”, but about the wrong people, they shoiuld look to themselves first.

kpaulsmith1463
kpaulsmith1463
5 years ago

Not strictly speaking a ‘conservative’, myself, BUT, in this most perilous time, all allies are good allies, and the battle is most definitely joined:
https://alt-market.us/conservatives-must-now-draw-a-line-in-the-sand-and-stop-the-great-reset/

mj
mj
5 years ago

new page is up

Cecil B
Cecil B
5 years ago

Lockdown is a huge medical experiment being conducted without the consent of the participants

What will be the effect of not exposing the participants to virus and bacteria for extended periods?

The outcomes will be unknown until long after the experiment is concluded

The lawfulness or otherwise of lockdown will occupy the courts for many years to come

On the practical front the dictatorship appears to labour under the illusion that at some stage they can unlockdown (no me neither)

The extent of the phycological damage lockdown has caused is unknown. For the past 12 months people have been told mere contact with another human being will kill them and they believe it

Will the dictatorship be able to unfrighten the population and send them back to work? I doubt it.

Economically the county has ground to a halt and then been shoved into reverse

Imposing lockdown was easy.

I doubt if the dictatorship will be able to put back together what it has has broken

Illimitible
Illimitible
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Totally correct.

JaneHarry
JaneHarry
5 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

‘all the king’s horses and all the king’s men couldn’t put Humpty together again’

Illimitible
Illimitible
5 years ago

It’s nothing to do with the virus anymore.

What they can’t work out is how to get the country off the drug of furlough money without collapsing the economy.

What they’ve realised is that there’s so little slack in the system that most businesses that are still shut basically won’t be able to re open.

The fundamentals have changed. We’re gonna get a great reset whether they want it or not now.

Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  Illimitible

And a great depression? They couldn’t work out how to get us off quantitative easing either.

Now what comes after a great depression again? “The lattermath will be a fine one” (Edward Thomas)

Illimitible
Illimitible
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I’m not enough of a historian to know the answer, I’m just looking at the writing that’s on the wall.

Even if you had a reasonable business, literally half the population are now so petrified they won’t set foot out of the door.

Half your customer base has gone, and you weren’t making even enough for overhead recovery some days anyway.

Absolutely every £1 that moves through a business is taxed to oblivion, and if you stop the merry go round on a national scale it probably needs a jump start equivalent to at least a years GDP to get it going again.

I just don’t see it. And I don’t think they know what to do so they’re kicking the can down the road hoping a global event will happen to distract the masses and for them to blame it on.

Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  Illimitible

Well – so far as I can see, they’ve been kicking the can down the road since 2008 (at least). And they’re going to run out of road, possibly quite soon, but certainly this decade. Still, I suppose there’ll be more jobs at Amazon…

Illimitible
Illimitible
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Amazon is just a Chinese logistics operation – our working class jobs have been exported and are being done across the globe.

Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  Illimitible

Yes, coal is taxed to blazes but we still have masses of imports from China. Didn’t Wuhan have a problem with pollution from coal? If our government were really bothered about burning coal, one would’ve thought that they would not import from a country which hauls coal from filthy open cast mines – using ageing steam locomotives.

kpaulsmith1463
kpaulsmith1463
5 years ago

From the man responsible responsible for THOUSANDS of deaths, the Covidian Truth, naked.
“Who cares?”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/29/andrew-cuomos-bad-who-cares-answer-coronavirus-nursing-home-data/

gina
gina
5 years ago

Fav cheer up song of the day ‘We Deserve a Happy Ending’ curtesy the Reverend Peyton’s Big Damn Band. Love the chorus – ‘even when we’re losing it feels like we’re winning…

bebophaircut
bebophaircut
5 years ago

PR and Marketing:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/9Jpk8Ix1CCg/

Ten reasons why Greta Thunberg is a …..

Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
5 years ago
Reply to  bebophaircut

……….Neo-liberal poster child, a typical privileged, liberal, middle class hypocrite.

John P
John P
5 years ago

Good summary. How to make a BBC news broadcast:

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1355301260493287427

Bill H
Bill H
5 years ago
Reply to  John P

On the money.

wayno
wayno
5 years ago
Reply to  John P

Not on twatter but can someone please explain why normal comments are hidden as may cause offence. Is twatter that bad now with censorship

godowneasy
godowneasy
5 years ago

Kate Bingham, UK Vaccine Taskforce Chair, wife of Tory MP Jesse Norman, and Pharma insider, is so excited she was so fizzing with the excitement with the vaccine orgy that she gave up her booze free January and broke out the Champers – oh bless – according to the Star it’s a Champagne Super Nova. Please wake me up when the real world returns.

leggy
leggy
5 years ago
Reply to  godowneasy

Come back real world, all is forgiven.

Janette
Janette
5 years ago
Reply to  godowneasy

Oh god how awful is that!

Bill H
Bill H
5 years ago
Reply to  godowneasy

Throw a shedload of other people’s money around.

On crap.

Claim victory.

Trebles all round.

SOP.

Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago

I got given some Light newspapers, and Heritage Party fliers, and “The media is the virus” type stickers tonight.

Any hints and tips on the best ways to use them please? (Sorry to be a bother and all that)

Jonny S.
Jonny S.
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Leave ’em where people can see ’em. Stick ’em where people can see ’em.
Any small effort to counter the narrative is worth it.

Banjones
Banjones
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Idly leaf through magazines and papers in your local newsagents, and push a few between the pages….

Pity libraries aren’t open – you could do the same with newspapers and magazines there too.

Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Right. No phone boxes, no problem!

DJ Dod
DJ Dod
5 years ago

Panic over. According to the Daily Mail the new J&J vaccine ‘…prevents 100% of deaths’.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9201625/J-J-1-dose-shot-prevents-COVID-19-others.html

Alice
Alice
5 years ago
Reply to  DJ Dod

Does this mean immortality? Elixir of life?

DJ Dod
DJ Dod
5 years ago
Reply to  Alice

I hope not. After 10 months of ‘lockdown’ I already feel as old as Methuselah.

leggy
leggy
5 years ago
Reply to  Alice

Wouldn’t be the strangest thing I’ve heard recently!

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  Alice

Only if their talcum powder doesn’t get you first.

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  DJ Dod

Full of hyperbole as always…

South Africa, which is being devastated by a mutated variant

South Africa is NOT being devastated.

Jonny S.
Jonny S.
5 years ago
Reply to  DJ Dod

Results sound very similar to VitD

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
5 years ago
Reply to  DJ Dod

I thought I just saw on a headline on YT (yeah, I know..) it was only 83% effective, but don’t quote me on that.

Annie
Annie
5 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

That. ain’t bad, if means if you then succumb to the lurgie you’ll only be 17% dead.

Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  Annie

better than the current 50%dead!

Andrew K
Andrew K
5 years ago

I’m at a loss, up until very recently my mum in her 70’s and with diabetes always said wouldn’t take the vaccine, suddenly she gets offered an appointment and she want to have it. I asked her what changed her mind and she said all the old people neighbours have had it. Oh FFS In this whole 11 months I have never once been scared about the virus for my mum, Now I’m terrified of her taking this vaccine. I’ve told her about all the people dying after taking the vaccine and of Gibraltar and care homes, but she thinks I’m making this stuff up..

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
5 years ago
Reply to  Andrew K

I know how you feel. Despite spending the last eleven months explaining everything we could find on the vaccine, my in-laws proudly announced that they’d had it! My mum adamantly won’t have it but my dad is feeling pressured to have it as he is getting some treatment at the moment and he’s scared it will be withdrawn if he doesn’t take it. It’s heartbreaking I know, but we are only responsible for ourselves, not anyone else. They have the right to choose what they feel is right for them even though you feel it be completely wrong. It’s the same for those of us that don’t want the vaccine. We want the right to choose too. We did what we could to advise and inform them but this is all we can do. It’s something we just have to accept.

JaneHarry
JaneHarry
5 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

what worries me is our adult children caving in to the pressure to have it….not because they are afraid of covid, or think the vaccine is a rational medical procedure, but because they want jobs or housing or the amenities of life, which will be withheld from the unvaccinated

JaneHarry
JaneHarry
5 years ago
Reply to  Andrew K

I know, I’ve got a brainwashed aunt and uncle who are having it next week, and I find myself hoping they will become ill or even die, just so that my mum will never be tempted to follow their example

rose
rose
5 years ago
Reply to  Andrew K

My 99 year old MIL had hers yesterday. A jabber came to her house. MIL was a bit apprehensive about having it and rang the surgery the day before to say she didn’t feel well enough to have it. They said they were coming anyway. I asked MIL if they had spent 15 mins telling her the pros and cons…..NO. I asked if the jabber had waited 15 mins after doing the deed to see if she was ok..going to go into anaphylactic shock. She said ” no they were in a hurry” presumably to use the full vial before it was wasted

Nobody2021
Nobody2021
5 years ago

Just a thought before bed:

Most people aren’t afraid of dying from Covid. What they’re actually afraid of is becoming a social pariah for not seeming to care as much about somebody else’s death as they think is expected of them.

This fear of not being accepted makes them pretend to care or just accept whatever is done to them.

Alice
Alice
5 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

This is probably true about younger people. Among the “oldies” there are quite a few genuinely afraid. I can’t understand it (being of mature age myself). I wouldn’t like to live the remaining years in fear and isolation.

Yes, definitely time for bed – good night!

Banjones
Banjones
5 years ago
Reply to  Alice

Many watch TV indiscriminately. Then they believe whatever they’re told, and never do their own research.

Sweet dreams, Alice!

Jonny S.
Jonny S.
5 years ago

I know we’re all on the same page here but reading back through the posts, with a few

backwards and forwards,

to’in and fro’in,

you wrote this but I read that,

I just wish that the general public had this sort of awareness and ability to debate without prejudice.
I might have had the odd gin, cider and beer tonight, but thanks to all who post here for the civilised way you conduct yourselves.

I fucking hate twitter at the moment.

Alice
Alice
5 years ago
Reply to  Jonny S.

Thank you – I think civilised debate is part of the old normal, unfortunately.

Banjones
Banjones
5 years ago
Reply to  Jonny S.

I’ve often thought the same. There’s a great willingness here to ”take on board” (yeuk) what people say and discuss it or just accept it as an opinion. It’s a pleasure to take part. It reminds me of a saying about taking grain and chaff together and, with a breath of kindness, blowing the chaff away.

wayno
wayno
5 years ago
Reply to  Jonny S.

I have had one too many whiskeys tonight too, but I too wana just say thanks all for the sanity

Tee Ell
Tee Ell
5 years ago

Latest Unherd, teachers talk about “remote learning”:

https://youtu.be/lkzTUtThRtw

Les Tricoteuses
Les Tricoteuses
5 years ago

If you say to Covidians, “Imagine there was no reporting on covid and no-one wore masks to remind you. How would you know we are in a deadly pandemic?”
You can almost hear the gears grinding away as they struggle to answer sometimes.

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
5 years ago

They would still have the media headlines/soundbites emotively delivered.

assoc
assoc
5 years ago

Exactly

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Janette
Janette
5 years ago
Reply to  assoc

Love it

Alice
Alice
5 years ago
Reply to  assoc

I’ve heard this about the Amish!

awildgoose
awildgoose
5 years ago
Reply to  Alice

Mennonites too!

Steve Hayes
Steve Hayes
5 years ago
Reply to  Alice

And the Inuit in northern Canada.

Alice
Alice
5 years ago

Article in DM:
“Why didn’t anyone tell us we were fat sooner?”
To be filed under “I don’t know if I should laugh, or cry”..

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  Alice

“Why didn’t anyone tell us we were fat sooner?”

Because there is a certain question women ask that most, if not all, husbands fear more than any other.

rockoman
rockoman
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

The question husbands fear most:

“Which of my friends do you find the most attractive?”

Every possible answer is wrong – including silence.

AidanR
AidanR
5 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

“Is the dog one of your friends?”

“Oh, so you don’t like the dog?”

“Oh, your female people friends? Those women aren’t your friends”

JaneHarry
JaneHarry
5 years ago
Reply to  Alice

wait for ‘but nobody told us that lockdown could damage the economy’

theanalyst
theanalyst
5 years ago

One little thing I forgot to mention about the French is that they do seem to have more of a sense of humor as at today. They can laugh about Covid. We cannot.

French comedians were on TV today dressed as “Joan of Arc” or “Jean d’ Arc” taking the pi%s out of the “English Variant” They know its all bollo*ks and say so on mainstream TV. This would be impossible in the UK. We are too Totalitarian.

The French seem to be waking up faster and are more free. (Except for when it comes to masks wearing of course…but UK is catching up on that front). I could be wrong, but hope not.

danny
danny
5 years ago

More blatant government sleight of hand.
How do we regain momentum for a jaded and increasingly angry public in the face of perpetual lockdown?
I know, we sell the notion that thanks to brexit, the untested vaccine nobody needs for a virus most don’t even know they’ve got, is a triumph of British exceptionalism.
If all else fails, jingoistic bullshit is always a winner.

jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
5 years ago
Reply to  danny

Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel

Annie
Annie
5 years ago

And never, never, never was the country run by greater scoundrels than these.

Nobody2021
Nobody2021
5 years ago

The cognitive disonance is thick on SM today. This article about Macron questioning the effectiveness of AZ vaccine on 65+ year olds is being attacked as feuling anti-vax sentiments. I think it’s perfectly legitimate to question the effectiveness if there is a lack of data but what do I know. Won’t be long before the EU are accused of having blood on their hands.

France adds to doubts on Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine for over-65s

The key problem with the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine against coronavirus is its apparent lack of effectiveness in people aged over 65 who are the main victims of the virus, according to French President Emmanuel Macron.

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

I think it’s perfectly legitimate to question the effectiveness if there is a lack of data but what do I know.

I think you know a lot, and I totally agree with you, N. 🙂

I rarely agree with Macron, but he’s spot on here.

To take any vaccine without questioning it’s effectiveness, length of time tested, etc. is totally insane.

WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Macron is an arsehole, but unlike Johnson, he’s an arsehole with a point, on this occasion.

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

Macron is an arsehole

Agreed!

on this occasion

Agreed!

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

But that applies to the Pizer jabs etc too.

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  Cheezilla

Of course, possibly all the more so.

danny
danny
5 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

Who does Macron think he is, questioning a new vaccine? He’s up there with history’s Greatest monster Donald Trump, a fat old man that selfishly survived Covid and told the public not to panic. Monster.

A Heretic
A Heretic
5 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

the test numbers are insignificant so we can just as easily conclude they don’t work for anyone but that wouldn’t be politically correct now, would it?

theanalyst
theanalyst
5 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

Macron is up for election next year – this will sway his actions big time……so the French decided today not to lockdown again ….yet 🙂

Pebbles
Pebbles
5 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

The major difference is that the French have the right to rebel and demonstrate basically written in their constitution since the French Revolution. It’s considered a badge of honor tossing chairs out of the window when something doesn’t go their way. That is at once liberating and also debilitating for society.
The English, however, are under the intense mind control of the “keep calm and carry on” and “though shalt not question” directives, a toxic mixture of conformity and emotional repression reinforced by the old class system, grammar schools and the BBC aka your Ministry of Truth.
But one day… Britain will be set free. You shall see. One day this armored suit of repression and conformity will burst.

theanalyst
theanalyst
5 years ago

Cool – If you are French or married to a French person, or the child of a French person you no longer need a PCR Test to get into France from anywhere in the world. As of today you can just self declare. You will not be stopped.

A predictable small step in the right direction.

I also like that the French are more skeptical than the UK (40% will refuse vaccine – distrust Big Pharma etc) and most importantly they can mix in their homes. We cannot. Boris is a bigger tw$t on that front.

https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actualites/L-actu-du-Ministere/Attestation-de-deplacement-et-de-voyage

Lovely, as I shall go to France as planned next weekend to see the Mother in Law 🙂

WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
5 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

Actually I’ve observed this about them and the Swiss when trying to buy antihistamines on 2 different occasions, years apart. I was directed to every single alternative therapy available. I was advised not to become “dependent” on them, (at which my younger self took huge umbrage). In retrospect it was rather touching. But at the time I just wanted my nose back.

Carrie
Carrie
5 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

Same applies for Swedes – under their constitution the government cannot put any conditions on Swedish citizens wishing to return home. When I came back after Christmas the Brits on the plane (including me) had to have had a negative PCR test before being allowed to return home to Sweden, despite having residency status, but the Swedes did not. So Brits could potentially get infected by the untested Swedes on the plane…

Ewan Duffy
Ewan Duffy
5 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

How does that fit with free movement within the EEA and not discriminating against EEA citizens? I know that post Brexit, this is not relevant to most in GB – I am Irish and therefore have an EU passport.

Carrie
Carrie
5 years ago
Reply to  Ewan Duffy

Depends on the travel bans individual countries impose. Most will admit people if they get tested first, but if their constitutions do not allow it, then they cannot make their own citizens get tested prior to returning home. Sweden lets its own citizens enter without a pre-flight test, but recommends they get tested once home and then again after 5 days. Not mandatory to do so though… Seven days of quarantine is also recommended.

peyrole
peyrole
5 years ago
Reply to  theanalyst

Are you planning to swim?

Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
5 years ago

I sometimes wonder if where we are going wrong is that we are not too good at PR and lack a simple hard hitting message. I recently replied to a twitter post and simply pointed out that around 90% of the people who have ‘officially died with covid’ were in receipt of a state old age pension and that indicates that therefore demographics should play a part in our response. This seemed like very much stating the obvious to me but surprisingly I received 13 likes for my comment, which is good for a nobody like me. But it does indicate that this sort of simple obvious fact is currently missing from many people’s understanding of this hoo-haa.

Nobody2021
Nobody2021
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

People believe what they want to believe. When I was younger I used to end up arguing with people all the time because I tried too hard to get them to change their minds on things.

These days I say what I want to say and if people accept it that’s their choice. I don’t really care if they don’t but I do put a bit more thought into what I say now. I find my life is a lot less stressful with this approach.

rockoman
rockoman
5 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

Most people’s minds are changed by experiences, not arguments.

WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

In my long illustrious history of being absolutely nobody, I’ve always observed that it’s when people take unanticipated mass action that things start to shift. But not the predictable going on a demo, having a scuffle with a policeman sort.

Here’s a suggestion.. What if teacher sceptics, retired or inactive got together to put a strategy forward to return children to school. Like a GBD for schools. One that drew on experiences in other countries to find solutions? Like half day classes of half the number of children, reduced in-person curriculum to just essentials, so everyone can get 5 GCSESs minimum. Hiring retired teachers to teach remotely so that they have no exposure but classroom teachers can be freed up to teach. They can be kept in to continue to teach the vulnerable when all of this has passed.

You could even do it for free. Not that you should. But if you undercut all the leeches attached to home education at the moment, you’d certainly get some attention. When I think of some of the liberal loony hippies that taught alongside me, it’d be great to see them back in the classroom corrupting minds with all their… Read more »

Les Tricoteuses
Les Tricoteuses
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

We seemed to have reached the level of “Flat Earthers” with a lot of people, no matter what evidence or facts you qoute they will disregard it because to consider the alternative would be to admit to being wrong.

jonathan Palmer
jonathan Palmer
5 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

It’s not PR it’s money.The government have bought the MSM.If you are unable to get your message across how can you convince anyone.

Cheezilla
Cheezilla
5 years ago

As the country is in lockdown and we need to stay at home as much as possible, our four community testing sites are now only open to critical workers.

Surprisingly, this coincides with a drop in the “infection” rate.

Prof Feargoeson
Prof Feargoeson
5 years ago

Just been for a 50 mile “eyetest” for a moonlit walk and a couple of beers with an old school friend. A Covidian unfortunately. Believes all 100k deaths are Covid and that deaths this winter are way more than normal. Wants to take the vaccine not so much for himself but to relieve the pressure on the NHS. Sees it as his duty. Oh well. Covid will be become one of those subjects one avoids like politics and religion, Trump and Brexit.

JaneHarry
JaneHarry
5 years ago

I sympathise, your situation is familiar to me, the dismay of seeing people you love and respect turning into covidiots, more or less unwittingly complicit in executing this totalitarian coup, in which both they and we will perish. and even as we try to navigate our relationship around these subjects we can’t speak about, we know that it’s futile, they make our relationship more fake, more shallow, and ultimately drive a stake through its heart

Alice
Alice
5 years ago
Reply to  JaneHarry

I’ve had a very unpleasant experience lately, talking to an old friend (on the phone) – he’s become totally obsessed with his health, and with avoidance of infection (and blaming those who “don’t obey the rules”). I’m trying to be charitable, he’s of a mature age and with some health problems, but it’s becoming difficult to find “neutral” subject to talk about.

Les Tricoteuses
Les Tricoteuses
5 years ago
Reply to  Alice

I’m afraid I’m so outraged that I can no longer hold my peace. Had to tell fil to think of his grandchildren not just himself . I’m not making many friends but it’s that or go mad trying to suppress it.

Janette
Janette
5 years ago

Mmmm

Carrie
Carrie
5 years ago

He may change his mind after he gets the second dose of the vaccine (or even after the first…)

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
5 years ago

Sadly nearly all our friends and family are such militant Covidians we have been shunned for being “irresponsible.” I actually feel will be ostracised from ever seeing them again unless we join “Club Vaccine!”

Caramel
Caramel
5 years ago
WeAllFallDown
WeAllFallDown
5 years ago
Reply to  Caramel

I tried. But something broke in me a while ago, and I actually can no longer stomach stuff associated with them.

Ceriain
Ceriain
5 years ago
Reply to  WeAllFallDown

Me too, Handbag. I didn’t read the url address above properly. I opened the page, got as far as reading,

By Bill and Melinda Gates

and closed the page.

bebophaircut
bebophaircut
5 years ago

Rolling, hourly boycott of all the giant social media groups. Organize it. Bring them to their knees and show them who’s boss.Without our participation they are nothing.

Tom Blackburn
Tom Blackburn
5 years ago

Pandemic highlights are few and far between but Peter Hitchens refusing to take the buttock must be up there.

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