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Shock Poll Puts Reform U.K. Just Four Points Behind Tories

by Will Jones
21 March 2024 3:29 PM

A shock poll put Reform U.K. just four points behind the Tories today on 15%, with the Conservatives down to 19%. The Mail has more.

YouGov research put the Nigel Farage-backed outfit on 15%, up one over the last week. 

Meanwhile the Conservatives were down one on 19%, with Labour miles ahead on 44%, according to the study for the Times.

Mr. Sunak seized on a bigger-than-expected fall in inflation yesterday as evidence that his “plan is working”.

But he has been facing increasing unrest in his ranks, with persistent rumours of a bid to oust him and claims that Commons Leader Penny Mordaunt is “on manoeuvres”.

The lack of a Budget bounce and former Tory Deputy Chairman Lee Anderson joining Reform recently also jangled nerves.

The PM pleaded for unity last night as he addressed the backbench 1922 Committee ahead of looming local elections in May – set to be a critical indicator for an Autumn General Election.

Meanwhile, the Conservative candidate for Manchester Mayor today defected to Reform. Dan Barker declared that he is switching sides, saying Reform is the “new home of conservatism”.

The Mail says Sunak is “begging his panicking MPs to ‘stick to the plan'”. Well, should have used your 80-seat majority to cut immigration. Too late now.

Stop Press: Lee Anderson writes in the Telegraph that “the Rwanda Bill is a mere distraction from the real issue: legal migration is at an unsustainable record high – and is only headed further up unless drastic action is taken”.

We can all see it, our country is changing, and not for the better. It is changing in part due to the sheer weight of numbers that arrive here, legally and illegally every year. Our attempts to control our borders are a laughing stock on the international stage.

Legal migration is at a level unthinkable just a few short years ago and our beaches are continually breached by illegal boat crossings from France. 

This faltering Government has utterly lost control of migration and we now face the unprecedented situation where the public have lost all faith that the political system will defend their borders.

Tags: Conservative PartyDemocracyGeneral electionImmigrationManchesterReform UKRishi Sunak

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago

What’s much more shocking is that 80% of people support some kind of left wing party, including a whopping 44% for Loony Labour, and that 19% are deluded conservatives who think the Tories are worth voting for.

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Monro
Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

This is, of course, a country perfectly at ease with lockdowns, 32% of whose voters voted for Corbyn in 2019, a bigger proportion than voted for Major in 1997.

42% of voters voted for the quite dreadful Blair’s Britain that surrounds us.

We can confidently expect the sale of ‘footer bags’, black football shorts, to increase dramatically after the election so all one can reasonably do at this stage is advise the welkin to purchase shares in sportswear companies……

Last edited 1 year ago by Monro
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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Monro

Indeed

The football shorts remark went over my head I am afraid, and I don’t know what “welkin” means 🙁

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Monro
Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

‘(P.G. Wodehouse’s) Spode, who is clearly based on Oswald Mosley, is the leader of a militaristic fascist group called the Blackshorts (shorts because all the shirt colours had already been taken)’

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Monro

I have not got round to Wodehouse. Too many things to read, too little time left.

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iconoclast
iconoclast
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Which assholes downvoted that perfectly sensible comment?

But transmissionofflame I still hold the DS world record for 100% downvotes with no upvotes so you have not taken my title.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  iconoclast

There are at least seven DS readers who think Wodehouse is a must-read? I’m currently reading “The Idiot” – let’s see if that meets with the approval of the literary critics among us 🙂

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iconoclast
iconoclast
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Shockingly, I nearly upvoted you. That would never do would it.

I’m currently going for a new DS world record here:

My Comment on Watch the Game-Changing New Film That Explodes Climate Change and Net Zero Lies

Down-vote for me now please and help me achieve a new 100% DS world record of down-votes.

Down-vote for me.

Yes. Do it. Do it now.

Last edited 1 year ago by iconoclast
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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  iconoclast

I don’t downvote, sorry. It has always seemed silly to me.

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iconoclast
iconoclast
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

In this case it is in a good cause.

Just one little down-vote here just for little old me: My Comment on Watch the Game-Changing New Film That Explodes Climate Change and Net Zero Lies

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Monro
Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  Monro

Welkin: firmament: in biblical cosmology, the dome created by God separating the earthly realm from the heavens

So a probably not strictly accurate way of saying ‘everyone’ without actually saying everyone.

My apologies.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Monro

No apology required – I’ve learnt something!

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varmint
varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Perhaps that is because I hear that 70% of people still get their news from the BBC. It is very difficult for people busy with work and family life to have time to investigate every issue. They probably think Investigative Journalists are doing that for them when they switch on their 6 O’clock News. But if 70% get their news from a leftist spouting channel (BBC) they assume is impartial with no axe to grind, then is should not come as a surprise that a vast amount of the public get influenced by that.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

Possibly, but also people are just weird if you ask me.

Before “covid”, I got all my news from mainstream sources. Have always been fairly cynical, but started to smell a rat with Brexit and Trump 2016, worst fears confirmed by the scamdemic. Mrs ToF still gets her news from mainstream sources but doesn’t believe much of it.

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godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

A lot of people just go along with whatever they think most other people are going along with, whatever seems to be the trend, rather than thinking for themselves.

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Smudger
Smudger
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Let us hope that every Conservative Councillor in the land who is privately disgusted with their party can find the decency to say enough is enough, throw in their party membership and serve the rest of their time out as an independent candidate in order to regain some respect from their electorate and distance themselves from this wretched party that is wrecking our nation.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
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I’m amazed there are any left

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Solentviews
Solentviews
1 year ago

We are getting very close to the Tipping Point. It will perhaps need half a dozen defections (which is quite possible) or Farage to make a decisive commitment to the Reform GE campaign to make this certain. Then it’s all over for the Tories – imho. Their betrayal(s), added to their sheer incompetence and wilful ignorance over the past 14 years will seal their demise.

If Reform can pick up the right of centre standard and continue to opposed Net Zero, Immigration and wokery, then I can’t see what the Tories could ever offer to make a return. They were warned enough times, but always thought they knew best. Soon Camoron, Treason, Buffoon and Wishy Washi will be but a distance (unpleasant) memory.

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kev
kev
1 year ago
Reply to  Solentviews

The largest hurdle facing Reform as a credible party is overcoming the First Past the Post Voting System. They are highly likely to get a large number of 2nd places behind Labour and Conservative candidates, but any wins could be difficult.

Under PR, with 20% they’d be getting something like 120 MPs.

The local elections might be interesting, to see how they perform at a more grass roots level.

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AynRandyAndy
AynRandyAndy
1 year ago
Reply to  Solentviews

Yup, I was wondering whether there would be a tipping point. When the bulk of those who’ve voted Conservative in the past conclude that a vote for the Conservatives only helps put Der Stürmer in number 10.

Last edited 1 year ago by AynRandyAndy
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10navigator
10navigator
1 year ago

Despite the trashing of just about anything sensible and substituting it with wind farms, solar panels, electric cars and heat pumps etc, one in twelve folk are still daft enough to vote for the green party. Incomprehensible!

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NickR
NickR
1 year ago

Surely the oddest thing, if it’s in any way true, is that Tory MPs & Alison Pearson believe they’d be better off with Penny Morduant. What problem would that solve? Would a single disaffected Tory think “at last! Morduant, a Tory I can vote for!” What with her desire for self ID, transwomen are women line. Bonkers.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  NickR

Indeed. I would hope that a lot of “disaffected Tories” are covid sceptics and as such would not contemplate voting for any Tory leader or MP who did not speak up the time (that’s more or less all of them) – short of a Bridgen-like repentance.

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Smudger
Smudger
1 year ago
Reply to  NickR

Clearly Alison Pearson does not appreciate that the Tory Party is rotten to its very and that its electoral oblivion is the only thing that can save conservatism.

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euge
euge
1 year ago

Do the latest polls mean last orders at the Carlton ?

trebles all round ?
oh and who will turn off the lights ?

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stewart
stewart
1 year ago

Shocking only to people who live absorbed in a certain media world and who don’t observe too much of the real world around them.

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
1 year ago

I’m a bit confused. Didn’t Tice say that he was pro jab a few years ago? That said he has changed his tune now. Reform is the only party to commit to an investigation into excess deaths as well, will be a vote winner if the sheep wake up.

It would be good to know Corbyn’s views (I mean Jeremy not his antivaxx brother – good on him) on jabs, he’s certainly said he was dead against any form of compulsory vaccinations ever and especially for care home and NHS staff. Interestingly he’s also refused point blank to reveal whether or not he’s jabbed, – which probably means he isn’t. Maybe another reason why the lovely liberal caring Labour party booted him out. Oh, sorry I forgot. He was kicked out because the powers controlling Labour Friends of Israel MP’s wanted him gone. I mean they do get an awful lot of money from them.

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NeilofWatford
NeilofWatford
1 year ago

Tipping point?
Tice needs an effective strategy urgently to ensure:
1. Ordinary, non-political people understand that a vote for the Unaparty maintains the globalist status quo (globalism, Carbonocracy, wokism, covidism, open borders, massive state spending, massive taxation).
2. Agreement with other independents there will be only one, clear, unambiguous anti-Unaparty candidate in every constituency.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago

“The Mail says Sunak is “begging his panicking MPs to ‘stick to the plan’”.

Plan?

Well that’s firkin news to me. Or as a Geordie might say “Haway and shyte.”

Sunak is play-acting. Nobody could be so utterly dim and stupid to believe that destroying the country bit by bit, day by day was going to result in a successful election outcome.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

”Rishi Sunak needs to get some balls”. Well said, Adam Brooks. I mean, even some lady balls would be an improvement, to be fair, but we all know that 1) Sushi is a WEF puppet weasel, and 2) Nobody’s going to stop the flaming boats. Not even Reform.

https://twitter.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1770890513979158992

Edit: I dig your Geordie lingo 😉 *Hadaway* ( Not of the ”What is love?” 90s classic either. )

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Thanks Mogs and I agree with your comments 👍

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

And can we see anyone getting sent to Rwanda ever? Well I don’t think so. Agree with Farage here;

”Here @Nigel_Farage
comments on the 500 people who crossed the Channel yesterday, & the stabbing.

“There are some very bad people among them, who will do our country great harm”.

He can’t see even if the Rwanda Bill passes, the law & judiciary will stop all flights.”

https://twitter.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1770738823250514409

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Rwanda Bill – the epitome of gaslighting. Actually beyond gaslighting because Fishy knew it was all bollox from the off. A complete con.

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RTSC
RTSC
1 year ago

Why is it a shock?

The Treacherous Tories have deliberately betrayed the voters who gave them an 80 seat majority. They are reaping exactly what they deserve.

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Free Lemming
Free Lemming
1 year ago

You’ve got to respect the effort Toby puts in to stop the system from being derailed. Toby, bless him, still hasn’t worked out that most people know, with absolute certainty, where those rails lead. He hasn’t worked that out because I know, with absolute certainty, that he thinks the proles are incapable of working it out.

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Grim Ace
Grim Ace
1 year ago

I am afraid that our democracy only worked in the days when we were a monoculture, mono-ethnic country. The future is only disorder and probably violence, eventually. The muzzies will keep pressing their case using threats of violence to scare MPs and the weaker members of our society into helping them implement a sharia state. And, then, hopefully, enough indigenous will show that they will not stand for that. The military and the police-stasi will have to take sides, and our country will be in flames. All thanks to polticians deciding that they can operate parliament as an undemocratic den of thieves and traitors.
Toby Young will carry on muttering that things can be solved by voting, whilst the bullets fly around his head.
Time we all woke up and looked at where this is all going
We are a weak nation and always have been, but once we had the moatd around us which stopped most enemies and we could use force to stop bad people. Now we are regulated and strangled by laws that protect the rights of criminals and invaders over law abiding people. A lot of suffering coming I think.

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V Detta
V Detta
1 year ago

Off topic I know..but that pic of Sunak….who the freck wears a hoodie with a tie??

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AynRandyAndy
AynRandyAndy
1 year ago
Reply to  V Detta

A billionaire who’s too stupid to buy an eye-patch.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  V Detta

Who the F. wears a hoody?

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iconoclast
iconoclast
1 year ago

The past 14 years have earned the Tories the right to be eradicated.

George Osborne’s austerity with David Cameron started the ball rolling. Traitors sadly to their own country – starting racking up the current eye-watering national debt.

To whom did they sell us out? What did they get from it?

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AynRandyAndy
AynRandyAndy
1 year ago
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