The disturbing case of the 20 year-old, who was abducted and brutally beaten by residents of a French housing project when a group of ‘ultra-Right’ protestors attempted to march on the neighbourhood last weekend, is even more disturbing than it originally appeared. It now turns out that the young man had not even been a participant in the protest march. The below still, which has circulated widely on French social media, shows the young man bloodied and apparently unconscious after the beating.
As previously reported on the Daily Sceptic here, the protestors had descended upon the La Monnaie neighborhood in Romans-sur-Isère in southern France in order to demand justice for 16 year-old Thomas Perrotto, who was killed in a knife attack on a village ball in nearby Crépol. Many of the suspects in the Crépol attack, who are reported to have made racist comments about ‘whites’ while stabbing and slashing their victims, are known to come from the largely North African Arab ghetto.
But according to an internal police document, cited by the French daily Le Monde, while the young man had indeed come to Romans from his home in Mayenne in northern France to take part in the protest march, he had been dissuaded from doing so by the large police presence which greeted him and his companions upon their arrival. According to his own account, when questioned by the police after receiving treatment for his injuries, he had travelled to Romans in a minibus with eight other people whom he hardly knew.
Noting the large police mobilisation, he chose to return to the minibus on the margins of the protest. But he would be pulled from the vehicle and beaten by a group of young locals. Some of them “had a jerrycan full of gas and threatened to burn him alive if he did not undress”. The below still from a video recorded on the night of the events shows the young man naked and surrounded by his tormentors.
On the young man’s account, after he undressed, the beating continued and he lost consciousness before coming to in the entry hall of a building.
According to an unnamed police source quoted by Le Monde, the beating only came to a halt thanks to the intervention of older residents of La Monnaie, “including at least two people known for their past links to radical Islamism”.
It is not clear just how investigators are supposed to know this. If they know why the assailants ultimately spared the young man’s life, it is reasonable to assume that they know who the assailants are. Many of the latter were, in any case, filmed while abusing the young man. Nonetheless, no arrests have been announced.
Furthermore, nothing in the police account related by Le Monde indicates that the young man had any ideological affinity with the so-called ‘ultra-Right’. He is merely supposed to have made the trip to Romans after having received a message the day before inviting him to “pay homage to young Thomas”.
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Civil War is coming to Europe & Britain over the coming decades thanks to the adoption of open borders. Delusional to pretend a clash of civilisations will end up any other way, especially when both sides are being deliberately made poorer by the powers that be.
Put an end to the Ponzi scheme that is the bloated welfare state we have now and you’ll see how quickly the flow of immigration dries up.
I think all the immigrants I know personally are working, but that may be a reflection of the circles in which I move. But there are for sure a lot of immigrants who do work. I still don’t think having so many of them is good, even if all of them contribute to the economy. It’s just postponing the time when we need to deal with why so many UK-born people are not working.
Where they come from also makes a difference. The way I look at it, if someone comes from a country that works well (by our standards) then they are more likely to fit in than people who come from countries you would not yourself want to visit or live in.
I’ve always held the opinion that immigrants for the most part work. But an article I encountered recently claimed that more than half the social benefits in Germany were claimed by immigrants, which made me question my assumptions.
In any case there are two issues. One is the current welfare burden which may or may not be negative. But the bigger issue for me is the idea that we need immigrants to come to work to sustain our welfare system, pay pensions etc..
If we didn’t have such an unsustainable welfare state we wouldn’t need so many immigrants to come and work. Or at least the argument for it would disappear.
There is so much talk about sustainability. How about having a sustainable state expenditure that doesn’t need an ever growing pool of immigrants to prop it up?
Yep exactly importing ppl to work when we are already paying ppl to do nothing is insanity.
I suspect the % of immigrants that work is a fair but higher in the UK than it is in Germany.
I agree with your other point. The welfare state seems to me to distort incentives in a way that is not the best use of human and other resources. But beyond that, I simply think that preserving England as an English place should have a very high priority and that we must find solutions to whatever “problems” that brings us. I cannot fathom how what was once a global superpower that led the world in many things now thinks itself unable to function without importing software developers from India and builders and baristas from Europe.
I can see why builders can’t commute internationally but why would software developers need to live here?
And are Indian software developers as utterly useless as Indian call centre workers?
Now that working remotely is more established, indeed software developers can be anywhere (though time zones are an issue if you need to interact in real time) and my firm employs a few (though that has partly been by accident through people moving and friends of friends being recommended to us – our first port of call is always UK based people).
In my personal experience Indian software developers are just fine as long as they have good English (which is not always the case). We employ loads (who are all UK based) and they are great – but then we would not have employed them otherwise. As to why they come, the ones I know personally much prefer living in the UK to living in India. From memory only one has gone back to India – the rest see their futures here, are educating their kids here, etc.
P.S. We employ lots of foreigners – not by design but because they were the best people we could get for the roles at the time. I am always baffled why more UK born people don’t go into software development – it’s a decent living and doesn’t require unusual intelligence (even I can do it reasonably well).
The problem is that social media etc rewards passivity with instant gratification.
And the school system discourages independent, creative, critical thinking.
People just don’t have the attention span required for software development, I find.
And at the first hint of even slight complexity, they just give up.
It certainly does require a good attention span. Mine isn’t great generally but when I have a problem to solve it comes easily and I am dead to the world for the duration.
I agree with your comments on the school system which seems to accentuate rote learning and box ticking over creativity and problem solving.
Erm … you do realize that it require unusual intelligence to accept that error messages from a compiler are helpful information and act on them instead of getting offended because of the apparent criticism of one’s perfectly legitimate opinons?
One of the nice things about software is that in general stuff either works according to requirements or it doesn’t, so there’s little room for people to whinge and whine if their code doesn’t work.
Story I feel like telling here: A fairly long time ago, I was in China and supposed to work on a (Linux-based) OS for an UTM appliance (by then, a new and innovative concept). My immediate problem, however, was a bit more mundane: I was supposed to use a particular driver for writing something to a NOR flash ROM (this was before NAND flash devices like SSDs became available, let alone popular). Upon examining the (ARM9 machine/ assembly) code in question, I found that the implemented writing procedure had absolutely no relation to the documented writing procedure from manual of the chip manufacturer. Next to this piece of software innovation (sarcasm) sat a comment:
This is not the documented procedure. But we have tested it.
Replacing the innovated (sarcasm) procedure with the documented one fixed my problem.
There are people working in software development out there (I know this — I’ve worked with their code) who will – out of principle – never follow a documented procedure for the simple reason that they refuse to take orders from other people. In a similar spirit, the problem I mentioned (being offended by compiler errors instead of regarding them as helpful) was a paraphrase of something I once read about real-world problems faced by German CS undegraduates. The original complaint was (AFAIR)
Der Compiler ist ein ekelhafter Meckefritze, der ständig an allem etwas auszusetzen hat!
(roughly: The compiler is a disgusting smart alec who always thinks he has a right to complain about everything! — and such people end up getting degrees and working in the industry).
Great story. I’ve come across people a bit like that. Sometimes not taking orders is the right thing to do – there are a lot of idiots working in IT. But sometimes clever people (or people who think they are clever) can take individualism to extremes. The very best mavericks are able to write great code that other people can understand, and also document it.
Judging from very limited personal experience, they’re chancers seeking to get paid for doing nothing (useful) and then vanish quickly, to be repeated with an as yet unsuspecting victim.
Almost all the Indians I’ve employed have been good’uns – and I am a pretty intolerant boss. Through the ingenuity of an ex-employee of ours we seem to have hit upon a fairly reliable mechanism for sorting out the wheat from the chaff, from a technical perspective, and perhaps at interview I come across a bit weird and put off “chancers” who prefer to work for larger corporates where getting paid to do very little is easier to achieve.
Bring back the Gold Standard or remove their ability to print money.
The problem tof is ideology. We are a Christian based society. The invaders come from countries which are muslim and this is clearly a religion of hate. There is no compatibility so strife is inevitable which is the intention of the Davos Deviants.
Indeed there are some peoples and cultures who/which are more compatible with us than others, but recognising this is seen as racist.
The Home Office are acquiring rental housing to house immigrants directly from UK landlords by paying inflated rents a year or more in advance, this is why our own (my son included) younger generation can’t afford or even find rental accommodation.
The UK gov spends less on ‘subsidising’ the immigrant population than it does on subsidising Wales. (£18BN). Wales should be independent – it would be way better off without Parliament – as would the rest of the country.
The latest attack last night in France;
”On Saturday (December 2), a man shouting “Allahu Akbar” killed a German tourist and injured two others in a knife attack in central Paris near the Eiffel Tower. The assailant is reported to have said that he was ‘upset’ over the death of Muslims in Afghanistan and Palestine. The name of the attacker has not been revealed.
Taking to X, France’s Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin confirmed the attack and said that the attacker has been arrested by the police.
“The police have just courageously arrested an assailant attacking passers-by in Paris, around the Quai de Grenelle. One deceased person and one injured person were treated by the Paris Fire Brigade. Please avoid the area,” Minister Darmanin posted.
Speaking to the media later, the Minister informed the attack took place at around 7 PM GMT when a man attacked a couple with a knife. The man was then chased by police, he then attacked two other people with a hammer before police arrested the 25-year-old French national, using a Taser stun gun. Darmanin said that the assailant shouted “Allahu Akbar” slogans and told police he was upset because “so many Muslims are dying in Afghanistan and in Palestine”.
https://www.opindia.com/2023/12/eiffel-tower-paris-france-knife-attack-allahu-akbar/
“The police have just courageously arrested”
Courageous police eh? Whatever next?
They’ve courageously shot someone in the back with a stun gun after that someone knifed a few people. That’s as courageously, as they prevented a civil war while those they were seeking to protect pulled someone from a parked car and tortured him a little for their personal entertainment.
If we don’t want this to happen here, we need to mobilise now. Although some will say it’s too late to do anything, we are still the majority in this country but with every passing day, week, months and year, the numbers of illegals grows. There is absolutely nothing racist about wishing to defend yourself, your family, culture and way of life from invasion which is what this is. It’s a planned invasion. We can stop this but we need a nationwide movement that is able to answer all the nay saying racist calling mobs who will be mobilised to silence us. We say no and we get rid of all the politicians AND civil servants who continue to support this either actively or because they have no backbone or sense of culture.
Finding a way to blockade the RNLI is a start, with warnings to Trawlermen to fish at your own risk.
ReformUK has a large number of candidates selected throughout the country for the forthcoming GE but they struggle to mobilise those who identify themselves as being on the centre Right in organised activism.
Those on the Left are far more committed to their objectives, better organised, prepared to engage in activism and don’t look to their fellow travellers to do the spadework as those on the centre Right tend to do.
Anyone who was active with a UKIP branch will understand exactly what I set out above.
As pointed out in the past, the literal meaning of ultra-right is so right that it’s really already beyond right. This is nothing but gibberish employed by people who always seek to top their hypersuperlatives of yesterday with new hyper-hypersuperlatives of today to maintain an impression of something which keeps getting worse fastly despite it actually doesn’t. It’s better to avoid such meaningless terms.
What’s next? “Far Right Boiling”? “Far Right Collapse”? Quick, hire some Newspeak developers from overseas.
Ultra-climate-denialism? Extreme democracy hyper-collapse? Hyper-global ultra-boiling? Extreme far right ultra-extremist?
It is usual for an unconscious person to lay with their arms to the side and legs apart. In the picture the legs are crossed at the ankles and it looks like the hands are clasped over the waist area.
This requires muscle control and suggests the person is conscious. It is not normally the pose of someone in discomfort – more likely to be the fœtal position.
So he had nothing to do with the ‘far-right’ and was beaten anyway. Much like the Gazans have nothing to do with Hamas and are murdered anyway. And you complain about a two-tiered police system DS? Oh the irony – and hypocrisy.
Immigrants should not be allowable to receive government social benefits for the first
10 years after arriving in their new home country.