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Labour Hasn’t Done its Homework: Plan to Charge VAT on Private School Fees Will Not Raise £1.7 Billion

by Mr Chips
22 July 2023 11:00 AM

The Labour party plans to end charitable status for private schools, applying 20% VAT and business taxes to raise £1.7 billion and help improve social mobility via the state education system. Conservative Chancellor Jeremy Hunt showed only lukewarm opposition in his Autumn Statement, appearing substantially to accept Labour’s calculation (incidentally, HMT confirmed in response to a FoI inquiry that they had no supporting analysis regarding VAT and school fees). Meanwhile Darren Jones MP (Labour) says it’s a bad idea and won’t raise money anyway. What to make of this?

I wrote to Shadow Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson – personally and via my MP – asking for Labour’s business case, and have been looking forward to a reply for several months. So neither Labour nor the Treasury has actually published any assumptions or cost/benefit. I was excited when the Institute for Fiscal Studies published a review. According to one of the IFS founders, “never again should a government, regardless of its political colour and intentions, introduce far-reaching tax legislation without the benefit of deep and thorough analysis of second- and third-order effects”. That sounds sensible.

Disclosure – I’m a private school parent. But I’m also a taxpayer and an economist, of sorts, and I care very much about the state education that taxpayers buy for other children. I can also see the logic in robbing Peter to pay Paul, even when I oppose it. But when Labour wants to rob Peter to punch Paul in the kidneys, we’d all really rather they didn’t. Surely, I thought, the IFS will go into all the unintended consequences and provide us with the clarity that is missing?

Disappointingly, the IFS recites Labour’s lines. Its headline is Labour is basically right – the 20% effective fee increase will cause only a small migration to state schools, which won’t cost much, and everyone else will suck it up and pay, so that there is “net gain to public finances of £1.3 to £1.5 billion”, only just shy of Labour’s £1.7 billion. It only briefly mentions risks, but they are buried deep in the report and omitted from the press release, which is probably the only bit journalists will read. It certainly doesn’t quantify them as in “…and if we are wrong, the net tax impact could be neutral or strongly negative”, which is ironic given the power of the “worst-case scenario” in climate and lockdown politics.

I remain convinced this policy is crackers. It is more likely to lose billions than raise them and it will harm not help state schools (as well as harming or closing private schools). We should expect the departure of significant numbers of children from private schools and their (disgruntled) arrival in the state sector, demanding places that are not funded and that physically do not exist; the “second- and third-order effects” that I indicate here are strongly tax-negative and remain ignored.

I don’t know many people who think Labour can be dissuaded from their crackpot policy. I’m more optimistic. I believe (1) it’s a rich political vein for Conservative and Lib Dems; (2) there’s mileage in simply demanding Labour publish their working; and (3) the Treasury will, in time, conduct proper cost-benefit analysis and it will be published. I’ll keep asking. For now I’ve written to the IFS author, Luke Sibieta, raising my questions as an economist, and await his response.

Here are the highlights from my letter.

Elasticity of Demand (how demand responds to effective price changes)

Mr. Sibieta states his “best judgment” that VAT on school fees will lead to a 3-7% reduction in private school attendance. His justification is to assert that “the effects of fee rises are quite weak” based on observations since 2010. Essentially, the rich will pay, they always do. But an economist of Mr. Sibieta’s standing ought to recognise that:

  1. In general, we can’t predict the future based on the past. Specifically, predictive analysis can be quite accurate for markets with easy switching, frequent purchases, large but divisible quantities, and well-observed historical price shifts, such as groceries or forecourt petrol. It is “unusual” to rely on it where switching is costly, there are long-term relationships, decisions are binary, and where the main substitute is perceived (rightly or wrongly) as vastly inferior.
  2. The link between past and present is completely broken given changes in the macroeconomy. Mr. Sibieta makes no mention of house prices, interest rates, earnings, core inflation, aging relatives, pensions or the tax increases which all parties agree should “fall on the broadest shoulders”, as if private school affordability is unaffected by these tectonic shifts.
  3. Price elasticity is not (as Mr. Sibieta assumes) constant. Just because I accept a hike this time, doesn’t mean I will accept another hike next time. There is a risk of a ‘last straw’ effect.
  4. Disposable income, and its distribution, is of greater importance than Mr. Sibieta’s blanket observation that “15-20% of household income goes on private school fees”. It is not even clear if Mr. Sibieta is referring to post-tax income; he should certainly deduct core expenditure, mortgages and pensions, and should review the distribution – because it is the families “at the margin” that drive elasticity of demand, not the existence of a few billionaires at our more famous schools.

School Closures or Contractions

Mr. Sibieta appears to assume no schools will close following the loss of 3-7% of pupils (let alone, as I believe, many more); for those schools surviving under reduced demand, he does not consider they will be forced to cut costs. In either case, Mr. Sibieta does not consider any effect on:

  1. Lost VAT receipts and state school costs from pupils forced out of private schools not by affordability, but school closures.
  2. Income tax and NICs; benefit claims if redundant staff are unemployed.
  3. Payments to suppliers – and their income tax, NICs, corporation taxes, and benefit claims if they make redundancies that conclude with unemployment.
  4. Tertiary impact of a+b+c via multiplier – in other words, the loss of (taxable) economic activity that those various firms and employees no longer generate from their own expenditure.

Labour Supply

One cheer for Mr. Sibieta who does at least mention “potential reductions in labour supply” as a risk, albeit not in the press release. He doesn’t explore the issue further – and it’s a big one, potentially costing the taxman some billions of pounds via secondary and tertiary effects:

  1. People become high earners/wealthy mostly via some combination of hard work, personal sacrifice and ambition. “Top earners afford private school” is half-true, the other half being “people wanting private school become top-earners”.
  2. For those at the margin – earning, let’s say, £150k across both parents, which covers mortgage, bills, groceries and two average day-school fees, leaving about enough for one elderly car and one holiday a year – for such people, life is not luxurious. If they are doing it on two full-time jobs, it’s genuinely hard. It’s not the same ‘hard’ as struggling on benefits as a single parent – but it’s hard.
  3. If those families leave private school for the state sector, it’s like becoming £300,000-£500,000 richer (based on 10-13 years at a school for two kids, average fee estimates ranging from 15-17.5k, never mind more expensive schools at double that price or more), raising a significant chance they quit, work less, or retire earlier. Or, if you’re a younger family, making career choices to become a high earner and afford private school… well, perhaps you just won’t bother.
  4. The motivation to reduce work could also be associated with (a) childcare issues (state school hours being less than private school hours); (b) wanting to manage extracurricular activities no longer provided at school; and (c) wanting to provide parental tutoring to support what may be seen (rightly or wrongly) as inadequate academic provision.
  5. It doesn’t take many top taxpayers reducing or quitting work (or younger people choosing not to adopt high-paying career paths) before the consequences for NICs and income tax alone reach some £billions, and Labour’s policy is blown away…
  6. …and that’s before considering the tertiary losses. At the risk of sounding repetitive, it’s the lost (taxable) value-add to those higher-earners’ employees, employers and customers (doctors, anyone?); it’s the lost (taxable) employment of armies of cleaners and gardeners who serve the time-poor, and otherwise risk claiming benefits; it’s the multiplier effect of all those people’s reduced (taxable) economic activity downstream… etc. ad nauseam.

Mr. Chips is a pseudonym for an employee of a private school.

Tags: Bridget PhillipsonLabour PartyPrivate SchoolsVAT

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

More lies, more psychological warfare

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago

So a lockdown Christmas is a certainty. Lying bastard.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Only if you want a lockdown or up or any other way

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Vaxxports macht frei.

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robwallser
robwallser
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

what would be the point though no one wants it and they cant justify it …. wont happen

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago

Oh Dijas, why greet us with a kiss?

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BJs Brain is Missing
BJs Brain is Missing
3 years ago

Do you notice how these smug evil criminals always have a particular kind of smirk? You could call it ‘dupers delight’. They are openly mocking you and I, and they think they are oh so superior. But they are not and there is a reckoning coming.

I will not be taking any booster jab, nor will I abide by any unlawful lockdown (house arrest) restrictions. So get lost Javid.

Last edited 3 years ago by BJs Brain is Missing
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karenovirus
karenovirus
3 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

“So? How about you show a Government Minister some respect . . .”.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Hiw about we shoe him something that isn’t respect? I think it’s called ‘mooning’ in polite society.

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Norman
Norman
3 years ago
Reply to  BJs Brain is Missing

I like to think of it as a guilty grimace.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago

In general you wait until the first official denial.

As this is now the third official denial (I think) I’d imagine we’ll get plan B coming along before Christmas.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

They’re doing it so they can later claim that they did everything they possibly could, but it’s all because of those dirty, diseased, anti-vaxxer cockroaches. And then people in the year 2100 will sit and wonder how could such evil be allowed to rise to power and abuse human rights so blatantly, all as they’re voting a new tyrant into power because the other guy is a bit mean.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago

This is consistent with Kim Jong Johnson not ruling out lockdown.

These bastards are evil.

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robwallser
robwallser
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

Yes but the rest of us ARE ruling out voting Tory in the next election .I think they might have a little think about things

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IanC
IanC
3 years ago
Reply to  robwallser

Oh, and who to vote for?

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

Still… they’ve got away with it for months on end, and they are still getting away with it.

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Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Yes, thanks to the opposition in parliament being non-existent.

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TruthHurts2077
TruthHurts2077
3 years ago

Evil bald headed little c*nt who told a double-jabbed Pfizer f*ckwit to “show some respect to the NHS” after the double-jabbed f*ckwit was complaining about getting (another mRNA) Moderna instead of Pfizer for his booster. Mad c*nts deserve each other!

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago

What has made a real difference here in the UK is our booster programme, our hugely successful booster programme.

So successful that “cases” are higher in the spiked than the unspiked…

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Indeed. The “cases” are predominantly in those who have been double injected.

I spoke with a nurse yesterday. She’s had two injections (not happy) but she’s a single parent and she was adamant not having a “booster.”

A nine year old daughter:

“No duckin way are they injecting her.”

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Hopeless
Hopeless
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I hope that she hasn’t read the Sunday Times main editorial today, whose title “Keep jabbing and Britain can reap the rewards of its success” may perhaps give a clue to its hysterical, “jab” advertorial content and slavish admiration of Javid. The Letters page is equally off-putting.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

The Times is always one of the worst pushers of establishment Covidian propaganda – only surpassed by the BBC and the Guardian.

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IanC
IanC
3 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

That’s why I unsubscribed from them, ST, and DT over a year ago after years of ‘keeping me abreast’. They lost any idea of what journalism is about. They aren’t interested in keeping their readers….informed, only in pandering to the diktats laid down by their paymasters and by parroting the official narrative. Pointless read unless you are in their particular echo chamber.

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Jon Garvey
Jon Garvey
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

More “correlation coopted to causation”- the cases were going down before boosters were initiated.

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marcusc
marcusc
3 years ago

There’s a lampost reserved for Jabbit

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  marcusc

We will need a lot of lamp posts.

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webtrekker
webtrekker
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

We will need a lot of lamp posts.

It’s the only way these lying, treasonous, murdering, bastards will ‘see the light!‘

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  webtrekker

Indeed it is.

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Peter W
Peter W
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

We have plenty. Failing that there are a lot of gargoyles around the house of parliament…and the scaffolding.
NB. For those who don’t remember, “parliament ” used to be where our democracy was practiced before the single cabinet state.

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Norman
Norman
3 years ago
Reply to  marcusc

A gibbet for Jabbit?

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Norman

https://members.parliament.uk/member/3945/contact

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caipirinha17
caipirinha17
3 years ago
Reply to  marcusc

Perhaps a tree branch instead to keep all those climate fanatics happy?

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  marcusc

https://members.parliament.uk/member/3945/contact

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago

I am calling on all parents to consider this call to action. We have to draw a line in the sand. We have to do something about this tyranny, but we have to do it peacefully.

ALL AWAKE PARENTS SHOULD REMOVE THEIR CHILDREN FROM SCHOOLS IMMEDIATELY.

I honestly cannot understand why anyone would send them there in these circumstances, but surely now that they are actually murdering kids under the guise of a health emergency which is clearly fraudulent, it is time to remove from harm. By sending your kids to school, you are putting them in harms way. You are allowing these disgusting entities, to influence and shape YOUR children. Why would you want to do that. Why would you want to send your kids to school to be masked and gagged, to the detriment of their health. Why would you send them to a place where they are literally murdering kids and setting them up for a lifetime of illness and disease and boosters forever.

GET YOUR KIDS OUT OF SCHOOL NOW.

DONE RIGHT, THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO MAKE WAVES AND SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE TO THESE CRIMINALS – WE DONT SEND CHILDREN TO PLACES WHERE THEY KILL CHILDREN.

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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

Or just keep them off on the day of the jabs.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

Why not name and shame the ‘school nurses’ (from a private company) who are doing the jabbing? Does no-one know who they are?

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A Y M
A Y M
3 years ago

The evil savage cabbage head opens his nasty little Goldman Sachs trained lying flaphole and treats the people like a bunch of mugs.
Hell is too good a place for this slab of flesh.

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isobar
isobar
3 years ago

The real power behind the thrones of western politicians and their lockstep lockdown responses to covid? Naturally their investment portfolio includes shares in the ‘vaccine’ manufacturers.

https://hannenabintuherland.com/news/blackrock-unregulated-investment-firm-now-rules-the-world/?utm_source=mailpoet&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=herland-report-independent-cultural-analysis-week-46-2019_70

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

Coercion and Bullying is illegal, Gov.UK.

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IanC
IanC
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Illegal means nothing to these creatures. The law no longer applies other than in their interpretation of it and the judiciary simply rules in their favour every time with the odd exception (for show) before being overruled.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago

Can we go the Singapore route, that is, unjabbed have to pay for covid treatment? And of course, allow the unjabbed to chose their treatment freely.

That really tests all hypotheses.

It verifies whether those of us who think the jabs are worthless really believe it.
It verifies whether those of us who think ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine are effective treatments really believe it, because they are very cheap.

It also verifies whether the government really believes the jabs help because if they do there will be no danger of the NHS being overwhelmed.

It really is the best solution. We all get our freedom back to chose how to live our lives and the government doesn’t have to fight a bunch of “anti-vaxxers” to save the NHS.

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thirts
thirts
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I’ll go along with that if people who’s body mass index is above average pay for any treatment that is at all attributible to weight, if people who consue more alcohol than the recommended weekly allowance have to pay for any treatment related to alcohol, if people who are injured in sports also have to pay for treatment, if anyone who refuses to exercise pays for treatment related to lack of exercise, the list could go on and on.

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago
Reply to  thirts

anybody that doesn’t eat 5 lots of vegetables a day to be denied medical treatment

the government could make a ‘vegpass’ app where we upload photos of our dinners each day

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Norman
Norman
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Does 5 portions of chips count?

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robwallser
robwallser
3 years ago
Reply to  Norman

yes the potato is a vegatable of course fine

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IanC
IanC
3 years ago
Reply to  robwallser

As is the consumer.

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robwallser
robwallser
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Dont joke son

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Joke about vegetables removed.

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  thirts

I am 100% with you.

The problem we have created is that the NHS has been presented to us as free medical service. What we really pay for though is medical insurance. A state-mandated medical insurance plan.

But it’s a disaster because it doesn’t put any limits on people. I am absolutely in favour of our government medical insurance limiting coverage under certain conditions – like for example obesity would limit certain types of treatment required as a result of the obesity. Or over-drinking. Or indeed risky sports. Or you have to pay a higher premium in those cases.

If in addition you allow people to opt out and purchase a different type of insurance, that would generate competition. And then we would really see whether covid jabs help or not as the insurance company would have to take the actual facts into consideration, not the propaganda of whether they work or not.

We currently have an unaffordable, unsustainable medical service that is only going to be more overwhelmed as the population ages. Let’s start demanding personal responsibility from each other.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

And then we would really see whether covid jabs help or not as the insurance company would have to take the actual facts into consideration, not the propaganda of whether they work or not.

How’s that working in other countries that have gone down the insurance route? We already know the jabs are dangerous and have negative impact on Covid, whatever it is. Insurance companies are part of the ruling cabal and they will be of no help in fighting this dirty business.

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Norman
Norman
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Even payment of a nominal amount for each visit is a deterrent. Some years back, son’s Irish girlfriend hada contact lens move from the front of the eye and she at first refused to go to A&E thinking she would have to cough up 30 Euros (she was a student) and would put up with the discomfort until it sorted itself out. She agreed to go when she knew it was free.

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robwallser
robwallser
3 years ago
Reply to  thirts

yes but i would have to pay for the headache tablets for the migraine caused by listening to all the superior shits in creation who dont smoke ,drink,over eat etc and that woud seem unfair

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  thirts

On the other hand, these fatties and tobacco-addicts and piss-artists have paid through taxes for the roads you drive on. If you drove only along the length of road you’ve paid for, would you even make it to the shops?
Same with railways – everyone else has contributed to the train you sit on.
We live in a complex society.
And talk about living ‘off-grid’ is a nonsense.

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John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I’ll have a course of ivermectin tablets, please … that wd probably cost the NHS 70p-£1. Early treatment appears essential though otherwise you might also need other (also cheap) drugs.

Decades ago the NHS was going on endlessly about the need for doctors to prescribe cheap generic drugs when possible to save money. Funny how that got reversed.

*

I watched this doctor analysing patients’ blood before and after
https://www.bitchute.com/video/NmhFesU2aPue/
Shows the depression in a person’s immune system.

I assume this is the phenomenan making people more susceptible to viruses for 2-3 weeks, after which they may or may not get 2-3 months of elevated immunity.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

On top of which the non-injected would qualify for tax refunds. And could elect to be treated by injection free individuals.

There is merit in the suggestion

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stewart
stewart
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Introduce choice and market discipline? Sounds great to me.

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robwallser
robwallser
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Another classic unworkable idea from those in charge .I love em

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robwallser
robwallser
3 years ago
Reply to  stewart

BIG FUCK UP CANT SAY SORRY SO JUST KEEP THIS SHIT UP No more no less

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webtrekker
webtrekker
3 years ago

Uncle Fester can go fπck himself!

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  webtrekker

Slum landlord

landlord.jpg
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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago

Pacing and leading.

Jabid is positioning himself as the voice of liberalism. He’s against restrictions, he wants to gift us some freedoms back that were stolen by the Chinese virus, and the unvaxxed.

Follow me, he cries, just get a few more jabs, and I’ll lead you to liberty.

Then he’ll turn around and say “Ackchyually, followers, I’ve been thinking about it, and…”

Meanwhile he sacks pureblood care home workers, and is preparing to sack NHS purebloods.

His words are meaningless. Only actions matter.

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TheGreenAcres
TheGreenAcres
3 years ago

Fcuk off Jabber

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

Sajid and pals

fuckoffplebs.jpg
Last edited 3 years ago by Emerald Fox
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PatrickF
PatrickF
3 years ago

No, the Government is not complacent. It’s following Agenda 30.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

“What has made a real difference here in the UK is our booster programme, our hugely successful booster programme.”

What has made a real difference here in the UK is our general administrative incompetence, combined with a large part of the populations liberal instincts and behaviour and their common sense, aka not giving a fig about ‘the rules’.
This has led to us being able to let the virus do its work in the beginning, let the young catch it in the summer and thereby build up long lasting natural immunity and avoid OAS in the majoriry of our people, cushioning the effects of the against Covid19 useless, SARS-Cov2 proliferating and otherwise sickening vaccines and boosters, which we peddled and continue to peddle for no discernible and defensible reason.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago

To be treated with caution but interesting – Alex Berenson saying all cause death rate is more than double in England for the vaccinated over 6 months.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/vaccinated-english-adults-under-60

perhaps WJ will take a look.

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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

see great comments in other comments section earlier today, here…

https://dailysceptic.org/todays-update/#comment-640006

Last edited 3 years ago by Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

Also

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/new-study-from-germany-confirms-higher

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John
John
3 years ago

Thinking of alternative Christmas song titles
Santa Covid’s coming to town
Last Christmas I gave you Covid
Just a COVID’s tale
covid this Christmas
im dreaming of a Covid Christmas
Merry Covid everyone

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago

Devi Sridhar says the vaccines are 100% safe.

I know someone who claims 3 of their closest friends – in their 40s – died of covid in 2019

If you take my mum’s claims seriously, there is literally no-one alive in East Sussex

What a load of old bollocks.

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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Devi Sridhar is a sales person for the pharmaceutical industry and cannot be trusted – she is a dangerous individual

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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
3 years ago

Sajid Javid said earlier today that he was called a P*ki when he was growing up (Britain has taken decades to get rid of ‘shade of skin’-ism and we are certainly not perfect now) – yet he is promoting discrimination against people who decline an unproven medical experimental drug.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

Hypocrisy from members of government.

Well I never.

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Backlash
Backlash
3 years ago
Reply to  Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

Well he is one!

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

I believe the Politically Correct term nowadays is ‘Parking Stanley’.

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Backlash
Backlash
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Ha, I’ll stick with using adjectives I understand to describe people. He’s a Paki.

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Dame Lynet
Dame Lynet
3 years ago

That last paragraph of his is pure oily, sick-making putrescence and anyone who falls for it needs sectioning for their own sake and ours.

I was going to say it’s unbelievable that he, or a minion, could put that out, but then I realised it isn’t.

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brachiopod
brachiopod
3 years ago

Are the boosters different to the jabs that are ‘waning’ (a.k.a. not working after a short period)? – NO

Will a booster produce a different result? – NO

Does a ‘fully jabbed (3 jabs so far and counting)’ person develop a long lasting immunity after vaccination – NO

Do the frail with weak immune systems generate a strong immune response from vaccination? – NO

Do any of the vaccines prevent infection? – NO

Are the fully vaccinated less likely to spread the virus? – NO [latest data from the CDC and US Prison service testing shows there is no difference between vaxed and unvaxed]

So, Javid, when are you going to justify your spurious claims that boosters will save Xmas?

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Sinor
Sinor
3 years ago

I really think this this guy is very dangerous .As an inept ex banker he assumes total compliance to whatever his department say.

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I am Spartacas
I am Spartacas
3 years ago

The government is probably closely watching events unfold in Europe where protests are not only growing but becoming more violent. Unfortunately its seems that this is only language politicians understand – when they themselves feel threatened then they finally listen and decide to do something.

I hope it never comes to violence and conflict like we saw in some eastern European countries and the fall of communist regimes … but there are times when you feel as if there is not going to be any other way.

Freedom is never voluntarily given by oppressors especially new tyrants addicted to their newfound powers … it is demanded and then if need be taken by the oppressed..

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Paul B
Paul B
3 years ago

Won’t be long now? Plan “b” AKA agenda 2030

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10226551/Now-Germany-says-set-make-Covid-vaccinations-COMPULSORY-unavoidable-move.html

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

The idiots saying good don’t realise its setting a precedent.

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James Kreis
James Kreis
3 years ago

What’s “making the difference” in Kenya, Nigeria and other African countries Mr Javed? Shouldn’t we be learning from them?

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Hopeless
Hopeless
3 years ago
Reply to  James Kreis

Can’t afford Pfizer poison?

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

Jabbit “get your boosters now or Santa won’t come”

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Teddy Edward
Teddy Edward
3 years ago

Hang this Cunt!!!!

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martinbritnell83
martinbritnell83
3 years ago

He needs to rule it out full stop. We are constantly looking over our shoulder waiting for them to implement it all. It’s coming… we all know that but when? It’s mental torture. Can you imagine what would happen if you treated your partner like this?

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago

If he wants to see a duplicate of the unrest on the streets we see in other countries, he had better drop all these plans, permanently.

He also needs to understand that Pfizer have nothing in their plans or protocols for any boosters, none. They’re is no scientific support for them, and likely to (i) wane just as the double vax has, and (ii) end up killing many more people.

There is growing evidence that these mRNA non-vaccines are severely impairing the natural immune system, making those vaxed (let’s now call them victims) open to/prone to/unprotected against/causing all sorts of other conditions. In Canada, the all-cause death rate has just jumped by 600%!

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robwallser
robwallser
3 years ago

For Now twat

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robwallser
robwallser
3 years ago

why is it SAD to see cases rising .Did you ever think it was SAD when more and then more people got the flu in 2011 or something .Its just a constant hype How is being off work for a few days worthy of the term sad .The fact is any one who will die of Covid would also certainly die of the next virus ,bug,flu,cold,pneumonia that came along especially the 89 year old with COPD .These government people will NOT for some reason differentiate between cases and fuck all to worry about .Really what does 50000 cases a day really mean .?? 500000 dead,49576 recovered its just empty plastic language that only fuckwits cant interpret.This guy could be the fucking housing/education.agriculture /transport minister this time next year utterly pointless entity lining his own expensive pockets

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Backlash
Backlash
3 years ago

I was quite hopeful the rubbish would end when Javid was made Health Secretary, I saw him as a strong/decent type who wouldn’t let that odious little rat and his cabal (Cummings) dictate policy when he was Chancellor.

But within weeks of getting the role it was like he had been brainwashed too into becoming one of these power hungry covid zealots we have in cabinet.

There is a pandemic alright, but it’s not a virus, it’s a pandemic of morons across the world running countries.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

For all my faults, I couldn’t believe people were really thinking Javid was going to be some saviour.
Funny how the issue of Hancock giving contracts to the Italian slut’s brother has been hushed up. Never mind all the elderly people you killed, Matt, let’s have a grope. And in front of the camera. All staged to give Matt an excuse to slink off and to wheel the Rabid Jabber in.

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ewloe
ewloe
3 years ago

This should not be a surprise, since the British are famous lovers of tradition. It all shows that the trust between the British and the government and all the traditional information sources are still strong , while the trust of most alternative sources of information is quite weak.

This also explains why the sceptics have struggled to land many hits against the establishment over the last two years.

Last edited 3 years ago by ewloe
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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago

What are the criteria for implementing Plan B? Is it if hospitalisations and/or deaths reach an as yet undisclosed threshold? Or maybe when ‘cases’ breach some unspecified level? Or if vaccinations fail to reach some arbitrary target? Or when Whitty and Valence re-emerge from wherever they are currently hidden to scare the shit out of us?

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LonePatriot
LonePatriot
3 years ago

There is an ivermectin panic on the big tech and MSM right now. Massive articles from MSM on Ivermectin trying to push a danger narrative and also negative press on Americans Frontline Dr’s, again, to keep the Covid narrative alive. Just go to the Goog and type ivermectin then look at all the panic news articles. We are over the target. Big-Pharma is panicking. This medicine has been widely used by humans without any problems for 40 years. It’s inventor won a Nobel Prize after 20 years of successful use and after 100 million people were cured of a broad spectrum of problems without any side effects. Get your Ivermectin while you still can! https://ivmpharmacy.com

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago

The virus is a wisp of DNA.
It does not love winter. It does not love or hate anybody or anything.
But by God, everything evil in the human(?) race loves the virus.

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DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

600,000 deaths per year approx, since covid began 1 million deaths, Covid, with/OF 142,000

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cloudster
cloudster
3 years ago

Threats threats and more threats. Will they won’t they. As per SAGE scientists, exhaust them, break them down, then they will accept anything.

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independent observer
independent observer
3 years ago

I emailed Javid with a polite request for justification for some of his key claims made in past months. No surprise – no response. I asked my MP to invite Javid to respond. No surprise – no response. By default, proving that on the balance of probabilities there is no evidence to prove any of the claims as being honest and grounded in medicine and science. In other words more of the Big Lie narrative

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SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago
Reply to  independent observer

MPs generally tend to be very big on assertion and very light on evidence. Mine is the same. Even when I’ve provided real-world deployment evidence of the safety and overwhelming success of Ivermectin, it’s still “well, err, no data, no approved, mumble, mumble, excuse, excuse”, etc., all lies of course. My next letter to him is to inform him that Ivermectin is approved by the US NIH for treatment of covid-19, considering all these politicians are rabidly trying to avoid medicines, as they would destroy the vaccine narrative. The NIH page is here: https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/tables/table-2e/ (below Remdesivir) and is quite recent, so not an artefact.

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Peter W
Peter W
3 years ago

“Sajid Javid has said that the Government does not need to trigger ‘Plan B’, which would see the return of mask mandates and the introduction of vaccine passports for certain venues, …”
In Wales we never lost those mandates (Labour Welsh government) and look how well they brought down infections – not! Perhaps Javid has also noticed that it’s not made a damn difference in Wales (and Scotland), but then again…..

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IanC
IanC
3 years ago

“Urged members of the public to take up the offer of a booster jab”

What an absolute Cxnt!

The Center for Disease Control (CDC) Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) Sept 2nd, 2021 about the risks non-jabbed pose to others, bearing in mind it is an accepted fact that the jabbed can and do spread it and can and do still get it!
Yet it is the naturally immune who are being locked away, sacked, and demonized!
OK so because there is no data doesn’t mean it’s never happened but NO RESEARCH into something as critical as this. Even the most fanatical COVIDIOT Jab zealot would have to wonder WTF is going on here?
Worth a look at this, it’s covered in the first few minutes.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/EhYBHZlIRyv2/

CDC info on non jabbed spreaders.jpg
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