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Nick Dixon and Toby Young Talk About Whether Matt Hancock or Simon Case is More Loathsome, Whether Chris Rock is Funnier Than Dave Chapelle and the Right Way to Eradicate Trans Ideology

by Will Jones
7 March 2023 11:31 PM

In this week’s episode, Toby and Nick discuss who emerges as the most loathsome character in the Lockdown Files, Matt Hancock, Simon Case or the duo of Slackie and Lee? They also discuss why so many senior journalists and broadcasters appear to be more outraged by the fact that Isabel Oakeshott gave Hancock’s WhatsApp messages to the Telegraph, apparently breaking a non-disclosure agreement, than they are by the scandalous revelations the messages contain.

Next, they consider whether Sue Gray joining Keir Starmer’s staff is a man-bites-dog story or a dog-bites-man story. Toby thinks it’s the latter – after all, didn’t we already know that most senior civil servants are Labour supporters?

They go on to discuss Michael Knowles’s comments about wanting to ‘eradicate’ trans ideology at CPAC and whether that was deliberately misinterpreted by woke journalists as wanting to ‘eradicate’ trans people, or whether those journalists believe – alongside trans rights activists – that any challenge to trans ideology is tantamount to erasing trans people?

They also talk about Stella Creasy’s amendment to the Public Order Bill, which would create ‘buffer zones’ around abortion clinics in England and Wales, and the recent arrest of the Christian campaigner Isabel Vaughan-Spruce for silently praying outside an abortion clinic and puzzle over why she’s been arrested again when the last time it happened the charges against her were dropped.

In the last item before the break, they discuss Chris Rock’s swipe at Meghan Markle in his latest Netflix comedy special and agree that Rock, while good, isn’t as funny as Dave Chapelle. They also wonder whether comedians are now the only people left who can get away with attacking sacred cows and try to devise a test whereby Toby writes a defence of Prince Andrew in the Spectator and Nick includes one in a stand-up routine and they wait to see if Toby gets cancelled but Nick doesn’t.

This week’s sponsor is Thor Holt and you can find him here or on his Substack, LinkedIn or Telegram channel @thor­_holt.

Will Jones then joins Nick to talk about the big stories in the Daily Sceptic in the past seven days: a new study saying mRNA vaccines contain DNA that may turn human cells into spike protein factories; the risk that Net Zero policies will cause global starvation, according to two top climate scientists; whether the number of births in England fell in 2022 compared to 2021 and, if so, whether that’s linked to the Covid vaccines; the rise in hormone prescriptions since 2020; and new scientific evidence suggesting temperatures have been stable in Greenland for 60 years, save for a sudden jump of one degree in 1994.

In Peak Woke, Nick offers up drag queen baby raves, while Toby volunteers the removal of any Christian content from songs the Girl Guides sing around the campfire.

Finally, we are blessed with another visit from Dr. Jordan Peterson, who answers listeners’ problems, including a query about whether if you dressed as a woman to go to a party you could get away with blackface, claiming you’d come as a ‘woman of colour’.

To advertise on one of the fastest growing podcasts in the world – or if you have a question for Dr. Peterson – drop Toby a line.

Please send in your problems for Dr. Peterson to answer next week (and let us know if you’d like us to use your name).

You can listen to the podcast here and subscribe on iTunes here.

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Listen to Nick’s podcast – The Current Thing – by going here.

Produced by Jason Clift
Music by Tinderella

Tags: Chris RockFree SpeechLockdown FilesMeghan MarkleTrans Rights ActivistsWeekly Sceptic

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