A 66 year-old male blood donor has been turned away from a clinic after refusing to fill in a pre-donation questionnaire asking him to say whether he was pregnant. The Daily Mail has more.
Over nearly 50 years, Leslie Sinclair has given a formidable 125 pints of blood.
But on his last trip he was turned away after refusing to answer a question on whether or not he was pregnant.
Mr. Sinclair, 66, was told to fill in a form which asked whether he was expecting a child or had been pregnant in the past six months.
When he complained that as a man in his 60s this question did not apply and he should not have to answer it, Mr. Sinclair said staff at the clinic told him they could not accept his blood.
The stand-off took place as NHS England launched a campaign earlier this week to recruit a million more blood donors over the next five years after numbers fell during the pandemic. The Scottish National Blood Transfusion Service (SNBTS) began a drive earlier this month to find 16,000 new donors in the coming year.
It emerged last night that all potential donors are asked if they are pregnant to “promote inclusiveness” and because pregnancy is “not always visually clear”.
Angry at the refusal to take his blood, Mr Sinclair walked away and last night told of his frustration at the ‘nonsensical’ decision.
The father of two, from Stirling in central Scotland, said: “I am angry because I have been giving blood since I was 18 and have regularly gone along. I’m very happy to do so without any problem.
“There is always a form to fill in and that’s fine – they tend to ask about medical conditions or diseases – and clearly that’s because the blood needs to be safe. This time around, there was a question I hadn’t seen before: ‘Are you pregnant, or have you been in the last six months?’ which required a yes or no answer.
“I pointed out to the staff that it was impossible for me to be in that position but I was told that I would need to answer, otherwise I couldn’t give blood.
“I told them that was stupid and that if I had to leave, I wouldn’t be back, and that was it, I got on my bike and cycled away.
“It is nonsensical and it makes me angry because there are vulnerable people waiting for blood, including children, and in desperate need of help. But they’ve been denied my blood because of the obligation to answer a question that can’t possibly be answered.”
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It would be so easy to dismiss this as an isolated stupidity. But the fact is that it is increasingly being demanded of us that we demonstrate our submission to authority by suspending our rational thought and internalising some insane belief.
After wearing a face mask for 2 years pretending it protects you, I doubt few people will have trouble just ticking the box, regardless of how insane it is.
Why the downtick?
This would be hilarious if it wasn’t so tragic. Its like being caught in a never ending Monty Python sketch, and saying to yourself ‘cmon, it was funny, but its getting a bit too ludicrous now’. I once read a great book about Von Bismarck, and I remember a line in the said book that went something along the lines…’When a lie becomes the popular narrative, it is time to stop recording history, as lies are not worth recording’. Although, you could apply this to the whole of the last 2 years, and thinking about it, you could probably go back a lot, lot further than just 2 years.
I used to work with a guy in the Timex Dundee that was absolutely convinced that in the future, (this was the 1970’s so maybe around now), that HEAD transplants would be a regular, everyday medical procedure.
I always struggled to think of a scenario where this would be a necessary intervention.
I know it’s off topic and totally irrelevant, but when @stewart mentioned isolated stupidity I suddenly thought of this, and as I have no friends, I thought I would share it here.
Plus, I want value for my £5.
I’ll have Klaus Schwarb’s head…….On a plate
Actually, thinking it through there might be some appropriate uses for this once Bill Gates gets the “technology” sorted out.
For example, that trans woman swimmer lassie might look a little less odd if she/he/it had Farrah-Fawcett’s* head on her shoulders…..assuming FF has no further use for it.
*Insert other 70’s female sex icon according to personal taste.
Apologies…..gender confusion strikes….I obviously meant Tom Sellick’s head.
I think I would have just put a line through it and written ‘not applicable’, but each to their own.
I think that’s a bit of a tempest in a teapot: The NHS can obviously save some money with unisex forms and the software processing these becomes slightly simpler when assuming that pregnant yes/no is an attribute of everyone. For a man, the correct answer is obviously “No!” and that should be it.
Pregnancy isn’t always visually clear and random nonsense NHS receptionists repeat because they either feel this way or have been told to repeat it is just random nonsense. I wouldn’t ask them for their opinions on a real lot of other topics, either.
It can be a bit embarrassing all round when as a staff member you get, ahem, ‘larger’ ladies in and you have to ask the question.
Surely it is about the principle. This is a ridiculous form which should not have a question for a male person, such as this, as we all know it is physically impossible for a man to have a baby so why would you consider it to be a ‘bit of a tempest in a teapot’.
Unfortunately, if one follows your view, there is no stopping all of this nonsense about non binary and all the other impossibly woke rubbish. We need to make a stand.
The point made earlier about masks and the whole debacle of the Covid issue is a case in point. The general public was phsycologically coerced by a ‘nudge unit’ to be overwhemingly afraid of a typical Winter virus which affected elderly people on the whole more severely but in reality was not a particularly bad statistic at the end of the day. The average age of death with Covid was 82.4 years. I rest my case.
Surely it is about the principle. This is a ridiculous form which should not have a question for a male person, such as this, as we all know it is physically impossible for a man to have a baby so why would you consider it to be a ‘bit of a tempest in a teapot’.
The alternative is to have two forms, one for men and another for women. And that’s not going to work as some people are going to lie about their sex and the outcome of a sufficient amount of cosmetic chirugy can look quite convincing. There’s still an ongoing court-case of a transman who’s living in a permanent partnership with a transwoman. As the couple wanted to have children, the transmen stopped taking his hormone pills for long enough to get himself pregnant. He’s now fighting for his human right to be recognized as the father of the child he gave birth to.
This kind of lunacy can’t be cured by pettifogging over NHS cost-saving measures. A better idea would be to insist that providing lifelong opposite-sex-immitation-treatment to these people isn’t exactly a sensible use of NHS resources. After all, I want to have sex with bearded women! isn’t a health problem.
How could he know if the government aren’t giving out free pregnancy tests?
We could be in a pandemic of asymptomatic male pregnancy and not know till we have babies literally bursting out of todgers.
…yes I agree, all joking aside this is where it will lead..once you start asking men if they are pregnant you are bound to end up going further down the ‘stupid’ path…
that’s why I’m glad he refused and walked away rather than just giving in to the stupidity…
Only “yes” and “no”? Who said pregnancy was a binary think in the first place?
These NHS bigots.
And what if he identifies as pregnant? Shouldn’t there be a question for that?
There’s potential in that: Asymptotically pregnant men might not be getting babies themselves but could perhaps infect people who are especially vulnerable to pregnancy with it, ie, women, who would then suddenly give birth to completely unexpected children. Until there’s a vaccine for that, members of opposite sexes are therefore advised to always remain at at least 2m distance in public and resort to genitial masking in crowded areas where this isn’t easily possible, eg, in beds.
Stay alert to keep safe!
“Until there’s a vaccine for that [pregnancy]”.
I think that might be what they’re trying for…
I don’t really find this particularly disturbing. There’s nothing inherently wrong with a “gender neutral” questionnaire, as it simply means one which can be filled out by either males or females. As far as his comment is concerned – “…a question that can’t possibly be answered” – of course it can be answered: The answer is NO! Simple as that. What harm has been done?
What sends my head spinning, however, is medical practitioners, in the full knowledge that a patient is male, being required to ask a patient they KNOW is male whether they are pregnant or not before a scan. But a form that asks about pregnancy? Just answer no and get on with it!
Could it be that this is done in order to streamline the processes of the NHS, in this instance to cut paperwork in half where they previously had one form for men and one for women? For men filling out the form, yes, it’s a pointless question, but perhaps it also reduces unnecessary paperwork by making the form suitable for everybody.
You have one questionnaire and it says “If you’re male, there’s obviously no need to answer questions 7, 11 and 13.”
Sounds about right, to be fair. And I guess the point was that they refused to go ahead with accepting a blood donation unless he explicitly indicated that he hadn’t accomplished a biological impossibility!
‘To promote inclusiveness’……..well it didn’t include the people waiting desperately for blood did it? Shouldn’t they be the priority?
In fact how many men have complained that they don’t feel included because they have never been asked that question? I’ll bet any money it’s exactly zero!….
virtue signalling nonsense by the dumbest people you will ever meet!!…
It would have been very easy to go along and ‘not make a fuss’ I’m very pleased he didn’t…we all need to stand up to this fascist health nonsense.
One of the most important questions to be asked should be “have you fallen for the scam and been jabbed?” A dual purpose question that acts as both an intelligence test and health survey.
Now that would be progress ellie.
Another question they always ask is, ‘in the last 6 months have you had sex with someone who has had sex during that time with an intravenous drug user.” You may answer that you hope not but no one can really answer with certainty.
What about if you’ve had sex with someone who’s had sex with someone who’s had sex with an intravenous drug user?
I’m not sure this is the hill to die on, as a bloke he can simply tick ‘No’ can he not?
He’s dead?
….. and in response the Conservative Party run government said “doh”.
Please will someone tellme when the revolution is to start as I want to take part.
On reflection, the man should have said he didn’t know, that he’d had quite a lot of unprotected sex recently with his partner and so would like to see a doctor to find out if he’s pregnant or not.
It would be interesting to find out how far the NHS is prepared to indulge this insanity.
Please tick: are you:
Those were the days…
What does Attorney General Suella Braverman say about this?
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Oh dear, if the same is true in England it looks like my blood doning days could be over. Suppose I could try and find myself a womb somewhere seems a bit extreme though.
While he could have truthfully replied “no”, the point at issue is that they refused his blood based on the fact that he refused to answer when he clearly wasn’t, or ever had been, pregnant. That’s the stupidity.
So presumably, when a woman (a real “old fashioned” one) turns up for a health check, she will be tested for prostate cancer?
To be inclusive, natch.
Or does the “inclusivity” only work one way …. forced on us by activist male trannies ….. which is what I think is going on.
Surely when confirming his name, and more importantly Date of Birth on arrival the question of pregnancy would have answered itself would it not?
Sixty six years old! Pregnant?