There’s been a lot of excitement recently about a Danish study published as a pre-print in the Lancet that analysed trial data and claimed to find adenovirus-vector Covid vaccines such as AstraZeneca (AZ) and Johnson and Johnson (J&J) reduced overall mortality by around 63% and cardiovascular mortality in particular by around 99%. The study authors note it appears these vaccines “provide significant protection” against cardiovascular disease, and speculate this may be because the adenovirus vector, though not able to replicate, “may prime the immune system in a way similar to a ‘live’ vaccine”. How this might protect against cardiovascular disease is not explained.
The study has been reported at sceptical sites such as the Brownstone Institute, TCW Defending Freedom and Bad Cattitude. Each asks whether people have been given the “wrong vaccine”, in that while the trial data for the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) did not show any mortality benefit, those for the adenovirus vaccines showed considerable and, importantly, statistically significant benefit.
I reported on the study earlier in the month, expressing scepticism about the supposed benefits of the adenovirus-vector vaccines for non-Covid mortality.
Medical student Santiago Sanchez has criticised the claims of the study and its commentators on Twitter in a thread that is unnecessarily laced with vitriol but nonetheless makes some helpful points amidst the bile. In particular he notes that almost all the favourable mortality data come from one trial, the J&J one, where nine people in the placebo arm died from non-Covid, non-accident causes versus just three in the vaccine arm (see below).
Indeed, the placebo arm in this trial seems to have been oddly death-prone, with 16 versus three deaths overall, including two versus zero accidents, two versus zero cardiovascular deaths and seven versus three deaths from other causes. Interestingly, the AstraZeneca vaccine trial in the U.S. had an accident-prone vaccine arm, with four versus zero accident deaths, illustrating how these small numbers are very susceptible to freak random occurrences. The same U.S. trial also had two versus zero cardiovascular deaths, while the Sputnik (Gam-COVID-Vac) trial had one versus zero cardiovascular deaths, to give the five versus zero cardiovascular deaths (out of around 50,000 and 72,000 participants respectively) in adenovirus-vector vaccine trials overall that raise the possibility of causation and the vaccines somehow curing heart disease.
Notably, the death rate overall in the adenovirus-vector vaccine trials was considerably lower than in the mRNA vaccine trials (377 vs 822 deaths per million overall, 600 vs 809 per million in just the control arms). This is likely a reflection of the lower age profile of participants in the adenovirus-vector vaccine trials – though this wouldn’t explain the lower proportion of deaths in the vaccine arms versus the control arms.
Perhaps the most significant difference between the two types of trial is in the follow-up time, with the J&J trial follow-up after the single dose being around half that of the mRNA trials after the second dose – and the mRNA trials also had the four week period between the doses.
In the U.S. AZ trial, a massive 10.2% of participants in the vaccine arm (2,206) were followed up for less than 15 days after the second dose (see below). How many of them were lost to follow-up because they died but this was not identified, and how many died subsequently without their death being recorded? It’s worth noting the number lost in the vaccine arm was considerably more than the 8.5% (920) followed up for less than 15 days in the placebo arm.
Santiago Sanchez notes:
If you follow people for longer, more people will die of more causes, by chance. If you look at one group followed over a longer period versus another in a shorter period, you can’t interpret mortality differences between those groups.
Sanchez has also spotted that the recently published final results for the J&J trial are now available and include a longer follow-up time of around four months. By this point the odds ratio (OR) of non-Covid death in the vaccine arm rises to 0.7-1.18 (95% confidence interval), reflecting a between 30% drop and 18% rise, which is not statistically significant. (The final trial data don’t include an update on causes of death so we don’t know how many were cardiovascular.)
Based on this, it seems most unlikely that the adenovirus-vector vaccines really reduce non-Covid mortality or cure heart disease. Much more likely these were random events, assisted by short and possibly weak follow-up.
While adenovirus-vector vaccines may not be as bad for the heart as mRNA vaccines, they have been found to cause some serious and deadly blood clotting issues. More data on vaccines and mortality are needed, but in the meantime it would be advisable to proceed on the basis that any apparent association between the Covid vaccines and improved heart health or reduced non-Covid mortality is coincidental.
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“So instead we are heading for vaccines that reduce severity of illness rather than protect against infection, provide only short lived immunity, and will at best have been trialled by the manufacturer against placebo. As well as damaging public confidence and wasting global resources by distributing a poorly effective vaccine, this could change what we understand a vaccine to be. Instead of long term, effective disease prevention it could become a suboptimal chronic treatment. This would be good for business but bad for global public health.”
BMJ Editor 20 August 2020
https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3258
The BIGGER question being? When is enough…. enough.
Resist, refuse…. hold the line
Patches and patches until there is no one left standing.
https://www.ageofautism.com/2020/06/british-prime-minister-channels-churchill-as-he-surrenders-to-gates-and-the-vaccine-cartel.html
I hate that smirking mug!
Durex, now manufacturing condoms that provide ‘some protection’…
The pandemic was supposed to last possibly until next year last year already. From the boss of Pfizer, such a statement just means We’ll not let go of this money making machine voluntarily in the next 12 months. And if he can get away with that, he’ll be telling the same story next year.
A booster for what ?
Someone please wake me up when this ridiculous shitshow is over.
I’ll be watching with popcorn and supplies. But I’ll wake you up when the fighting starts.
For their balance sheet, probably. They appear to be following the classic “hype graph”, if you look up the term under marketing theory.
Ooh, can’t wait!
Hey Pfizer CEO, I think this Aussie probably has something to say to you:
https://twitter.com/BristolBlues40/status/1442092517655257090
“How ’bout you cunts start doing the right thing? Huh? That’s right, you won’t. You’re fucking greedy lying fucking dogs. So you know where you can stick your fucking booster shot? Right up your fucking arse, that’s it.That’s the right thing. The right thing, you fucking sellout drug pushing fucking losers!”
Harsh!
But fair.
There are some real Aussies, still!
[Language warning – don’t watch if hearing “the c word” applied to coronapanicking “leaders” upsets you]
I got the distinct impression he’s just a little bit annoyed!
Can’t imagine why…
This is concerning…. but worth the read
https://covexit.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/slides_Dr_Rose_talk.pdf
And Dr. Jessica Rose, PhD talks…
https://covexit.com/vaers-what-do-the-data-tell-us/
Why does the same problem keep occurring with this data – namely the lack of standardisation? Absolute numbers are not very informative unless they are contextualised to a population size.
That won’t be up for long, I said ‘hang’ on there once and got banned for a week, shortly before I banned myself for life.
Good while it lasts, though.
Sadly he’s right.
Once vaccinated the only way to limit ADE (and other negative) effects will be to have an annual revaccination (if not 6 monthly).
Of course, this will be associated with annual risks of blood-clot disorders and other serious side effects/complications.
We should have only vaccinated the most vulnerable. They were in a position of high risk from covid and the it was probably worth risking the vaccine for the benefit of reduced covid risk.
“We should have only vaccinated the most vulnerable”
No, No, NO!!!
Pure ascientific bullshit from the ‘Narrative’ about one of the untested sub-groups.
Additionally, the latest data shows absolutely no ARR for the most vulnerable in terms of age.
I’m with you. It’s confusing and frustrating to hear a qualified skeptic speak positively about the shots for the vulnerable. Why would anyone need the shots, if proper treatment is dispensed?
Because a true skeptic is skeptical of everything – inc. the things that already support their narrative. I’m skeptical of the jabs, of ivermectin, of ventilators, of nanobots and population control…the whole shebang. It’s a state of mind. Skeptics shouldn’t be “jabs bad treatment good” – they should be in favour of everyone having the freedom to do their own research and make their own choices.
No-one told 80 year olds that the ‘vaxx’ had not been tested on their age group and I doubt if many of them (or even their panic-stricken families) did the research. Freedom of choice is the right way to go but it would be nice if the governments and medics told the truth as well.
Oh I definitely agree that the coercion in all its many forms has been disgusting. But people having the jabbyjabs so that they can go on holiday or “get their freedoms back” deserve what’s coming to them now as far as I’m concerned. They made their choice knowing full well it was BS.
Should probably made a proper vaccination for COVID as well, not the current clot-shot.
Probably everything EXCEPT the clot protein which would make the virus inert.
In the context of Dengue fever, ADE is a theoretical explanation for more severe disease upon reinfection: There are four so-called serotypes of Dengue viruses and it’s conjectured that antibodies specific to one of them can bind to another but without neutralizing it. The same antibodies then facilitate the un-neutralized virus being engulfed by a macrophage but instead of being eaten, it starts to replicate inside of it. This phenomenon has reportedly also been shown as possible by lab experiments.
Taking this theory for granted, there’s obviously no way revaccination generating the same kind of defective antibodies could do anything to improve the situation.
NB: Summary of Wikipedia on the topic, something I finally read because this acronym keeps being thrown around. Corrections welcome.
There is a traditional vaccine being developed by a company called Novavax which is now seeking approval. It will be interesting to see what happens. They have trialed it on large numbers so hopefully they are honest trials.
If it gets kicked out it may be an indication that the worst scenario is taking place as opposed to just pure greed. Another possibility is that a larger Pharma takes it over and converts it to mRNA quietly.
Keep an eye on it.
Even if you are anti-vax it could be a good “tell” as to intent.
I’m losing count now of acquaintances who used to brag about being “double-jabbed”, always said with an expression caught between deep pride over being a good person and the embarrassment of being so self indulgently proud that derived from a bygone era where people were regarded as sinful for exhibiting that behaviour.
These medical procedures are so useless, they are causing some really stressful cognitive dissonance that they aren’t protecting people at all. Indeed, they seem to be causing a lot of very nasty injuries.
The big question is, whether or not this will awaken some of these sheep from their pious slumber.
I’m not going to hold my breath though. In what is fast becoming an idiom, we must say “Look at Australia “ Which is precisely why the resistance there must be hidden. So if you know of any of these bemused Branch Covidians, this might be a good time to politely re-engage and try and wake them up a bit.
or I guess just wait for Winter….
I’m losing count now of acquaintances who used to brag about being “double-jabbed”
‘Used to brag’? As in, they’re not bragging any more?
I may have mentioned a while back a friend who treated my vaxreluctance with condescension. We’ve spoken a couple of times since and he has not raised the vax at all.
Exactly, I’m not hearing a peep from the pious right now.
Yeah because if the first and second vaccines didn’t kill you, we will keep on giving them to you until one of them does!
Dr Mike Yeadon reckons it will be about the 7th or 8th ‘jab’ that will be the killer. Israel alteady giving out number 4
and he bases this on what exactly?
Well, he would say that, wouldn’t he?
(to slightly misquote Mandy Rice-Davies)
” the pandemic is on course to be over in about a year.”
Now here’s the news :
The pandemic never actually started.
This plandemic will never end. Especially as they’re drunk on power. No way will they want to give that up. Especially that wanker Dan Andrews!
Just look at the increase in share prices for an explanation!
It’s just three weeks to flatten the sombrero.
They can push their ‘boosters’ as much as they want, but sorry Pfizer, vaccination isn’t mandatory in the UK and can’t be made so without very significant changes to law that would look distinctly odd at the tail end of a so-called pandemic. It looks to me like the aim was to inject as many victims as possible in an initial shock-and-awe campaign, who will then be reliant on boosters to avoid the effects of ADE for evermore. It was in effect an intelligence test, and if you’re reading this you probably passed. Good job
I’ve heard quite a number of older friends and relatives set to receive their ‘boosters’ say they’re not having them, so I can only hope this is going on across the country. Just don’t think right-minded people will be up for this. Sorry Pfizer.
I’ve heard this on the grape vine also (real life, not internet).
I keep telling people and have been from the start: this will not be a battle between vaxxed and unvaxxed, it will be a battle between the free who say “no more” and the willingly enslaved.
Yes, but will they stay strong? I know people who said they weren’t having vaccines at the beginning of this business but who had both ASAP. I also know people who say they’re not having the booster but I don’t believe them! The peer group pressure is enormous where we live.
I have to agree with you. I too have heard a few people who are double jabbed say they won’t get the booster(s). However, these were the very same people who consider myself to be a crazy conspiracy theorist.
So when the numbers are ‘scary’ in the reports during the winter, and fear is circulating society, it will be interesting to see the percentage of those double-jabbed taking the booster. I wouldn’t be shocked to see numbers pass the 90% mark.
Will boosters fend off ADE?
You need a booster to protect you against the original jabs?
First thoughts, “predictable”. Second thoughts, start with “B” and end with “t”!
The new discrimination.
I am entirely happy being able to get a Covid19 booster each year, in exactly the same way I am happy to be able to get an Influenza shot. As in, I don’t.
Ker-ching!
$$$$$$$$
The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.
Children aged 12-15 to drive HGV vehicles distributing the ‘vaccines’, coming to a country near you.
A free pint of petrol for every kid you put on the sacrificial block.
Ching, Ching,Ching, Jackpot
Pfizer – the company with a criminal record so extensive, you have to wonder how they are still in business. Because of corporate corruption of course. Corporate culture is abhorrent. People become corporatised at work, and it changes their soul. It’s very ugly to watch.
For me the most important story involving Pfizer (and J & J) is the fact that their injections switch of cancer suppressors in order to trick the cells into allowing access to the synthetic mRNA shite. The folk who designed this tech are up for the Nobel Prize, haha. Will Daily Sceptic ever cover this, or is that not allowed by Ratschild and co?
Is There A Covid Vaccine / Cancer Connection? Dr. Cole Interviewed by The Highwire with Del Bigtree
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9bggZXNetrAo/
Pfizer: Corporate Rap Sheet
https://www.corp-research.org/pfizer
People have not, hitherto, been viciously bullied and coerced into having flu shots. And flu shots have not been forced on those who don’t need them. And the decision of which flu scariant to attack has always been pure, roll-out-the-dice guesswork.
They are in charge of our politicians so they can say & do what they like cant they!! They PAY everyone & everyone is greedy! BUT, there are more o fun Ugly M…F…rs than they are , As Frank Zappa once said
believes life will return to normal “within a year”
That’ll be the new normal.