- “Apple orders staff to return to the office once a week from April 11th” – The iPhone maker has been attempting to bring employees back to office since June last year, but had postponed the move several times as COVID-19 cases rose in autumn and the winter of 2021, the Mail reports.
- “Trudeau’s toxic tantrum tyranny” – Trudeau’s Canada shows how repressive tactics have become standard operating procedures for Western ‘democracies’ to suppress dissent, punish dissenters and banish them from participation in social life and the economy, writes Ramesh Thakur in Spectator Australia.
- “The deafening silence of Dame June Raine” – Gillian Dymond in TCW Defending Freedom asks why she has never heard back from the head of the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) after writing multiple times to ask her to investigate the extraordinary number of adverse events reported following Covid vaccination.
- “Glut of COVID-19 Vaccines: Are Masses Rejecting SARS-CoV-2 Inoculation Moving Forward?” – An accumulating glut of COVID-19 vaccine product leaves states (and many nations) in a quandary as the public increasingly rejects the messaging coming out of various national and state-level public health agencies such as the CDC, reports TrialSite News.
- “Sweden to End Pandemic Measures, Stop Classifying Covid as ‘Generally and Socially Dangerous’” – The Swedish Government is set to repeal its Pandemic Act by the end of the month and starting in April, the country will no longer classify the Wuhan virus as a “generally and socially dangerous” disease, reports Station Gossip.
- “Britain is sleepwalking into a catastrophic energy crisis” – We need a Kate Bingham of energy to end the groupthink that has left us reliant on imported oil and gas, writes George Trefgarne in the Telegraph.
- “Soaring gas prices risk wiping out European factories” – The surge in energy costs could make steel too expensive for factories to operate, reports the Telegraph.
- “Fracking could return as firms research methods to reduce earthquakes amid energy fears” – A 2019 moratorium on existing fracking methods has led to sites being filled in but the regulator is under pressure to reverse orders, reports the Telegraph.
- “The astronomical costs of pursuing a Net Zero utopia ” – The terrible events of recent days have forced us all to concentrate our minds on what is really important, says the Mail on Sunday in a leading article.
- “The fracking ban leaves us vulnerable” – Rather than exploiting our own resources, within the last few weeks the Government watchdog has done the opposite and ordered the sealing of the last two shale gas sites, writes Labour MP Graham Stringer in the Mail.
- “One glorious day in Sevastopol, I saw what was coming” – Peter Hitchens’ take on the Ukraine conflict in the Mail on Sunday.
- “Elon Musk says Starlink satellites will NOT block Russian state media” – Musk sent a collection of antennas to Ukraine this week after the Prime Minister voiced concern that Ukrainians could lose internet access, but he refused to block Russian state media, calling himself a “free speech absolutist” and saying: “All news sources are partially propaganda,” reports the Mail.
- “10 Years: Watch the Legacy of Andrew Breitbart All-Star Tribute” – Andrew Breitbart died 10 years ago. Watch the tributes from Ron DeSantis, Kristi Noem, Ted Cruz, Clarence Thomas and many more. “Walk toward the fire.”
- “Sir Tony Blair: I thought Iraq invasion was the right thing to do” – Former Prime Minister Sir Tony Blair has admitted he “may have been wrong” about the decision to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, but insisted he thought it was “the right thing” to do, reports the Mail.
- “Boris, if he isn’t careful, risks becoming Theresa May in trousers in taking their voters for granted” – Dr. Benny Peiser, Director of Net Zero Watch, discusses a possible referendum on Net Zero on GB News.
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This is the current stage of the situation.
People will say that they were right to think what they did, even though it has turned out to be wrong.
Moreover, people who questioned <insert Covid policy here> were wrong, even though it turned out that they were right. (eg, Dilbert said something along the lines of ‘anti-vaxxers were lucky’).
This is a bizarre logic, but I suppose people will cling onto whatever they can to justify some rather extreme opinions that they held at the time.
The situation is really that Piers Morgan should say ‘I was taken in by propaganda because I didn’t have the necessary skills to question authority, and even worse I helped spread the propaganda — and, even worse than that, I made money during this time by spreading the propaganda’. But, of course, it is in this individual’s interests to never ever admit to this.
As a ‘world’ we desperately need to understand that we were abused during this time — that we were bombarded with what should really be considered extreme right wing views (far far more right wing than ‘Tory’ or even ‘BNP’ — to consider that unvaccinated people should be locked up or denied basic medical attention really is rather extreme). Until we accept what was done to us then we’re ripe for it to be done again, and again.
The concept of ‘mass formation’ theory explains partly why Morgan & the vast majority of the population went along with the nonsense. However, I think straightforward Stockholm Syndrome can be seen at work. Boris Johnson is a classic example, along with Piers Morgan, who came to believe what their captors told them. Does anyone doubt that Patty Hearst wouldn’t have willingly pointed her submachine gun at the unvaccinated if Devi Sridar had asked her to?
And money. The Fake news complex received £500 mn of my money (tax) to spread the psyops.
Plus he and many others are lunatics from the Church of ‘$cience’. The religion of ‘Reason’ which is fiction and unreasonable.
Of course they will deny wrong-doing.
Replace unstabbinated (me) with Hindu, Muslim, Atheist, Black, Brown, or Jewish. And Lo! Out come the declamations of ‘never again’ etc etc but Morgan the fat supine paid off clown that he is, was advocating my destruction. F- him.
Overthinking the issue.
It’s not Mass Formation Psychosis it’s Mass Psychosis.
MFP supposes there was some malelavent intelligence behind it all.
There wasn’t, this was a spontaneous outbreak of irrational fear over our biggest fear at this time, Viruses and disease.
The medieval witch trials, the nearest comparable event to Covid, was also spontaneous, the irrational fear then was religion and superstition.
We desperately want to believe that Covid was orchestrated and there is still fierce resistance to letting the worst of the zealots “off the hook”.
The lesson to be learnt is that these people were actually ill with a collective psychological illness and others, who took advantage (like the pharmaceutical companies) were simply opportunists ready to exploit the situation for all it was worth.
Having said that, for their stupidity and cynical exploitation, and the huge amount of unnecessary deaths they caused, they need to be punished, if only as a warning to others in the future.
The pharmaceutical companies had their plans ready in the wings way before the ‘psychological illness’ kicked off.
Just ignore the ‘para.’
So what were their plans?
Digital ID and currency. The 4th industrial revolution and the great reset. The World’s economy is about to collapse due to a century of corruption. This is the smoke and mirrors to maintain control after it. That’s what I reckon.
There is no doubt that mass formation happend. But you have to ask yourself if there is no conspiracy what was the trigger for it to occur and why was it encouraged with fear porn. I don’t deny it was taken advantage of my numerous individuals and organisations. But you need to have a look down the rabbit hole this was far from a cock up TPTB were under no psychosis.
“We desperately want to believe that Covid was orchestrated”
Speak for yourself. My initial position would probably have been that it wasn’t “orchestrated” – whatever exactly it is you mean by “it” and “orchestrated”. What has become evident is the convergence of a number of strands of thought and agendas which were and are furthered by “public health crises” “climate crises” etc, all of which end up with reduced prosperity and freedom, censorship, state propaganda, and centralisation/globalisation of power, all of which favour big business, larger states that interfere more with our lives. Whatever the exact origins of covid were, and they may not have been orchestrated, a great deal else has been (in plain sight) highly orchestrated.
Rupert Sheldrake’s theory of morphic resonance could also explain how the ‘illness’ spreads throughout society. Those that are fearful or made to be fearful would more readily manifest the symptoms of the disease.
In this world of newspeak, is it the left or the right that are pulling the strings. It certainly seems that those in the WEF are the controllers of the propaganda. They eshew the labels of left or right, they are just “The Elite”. They are the narccistic billionaires that feel the need to manage the world. It was the policy of CCP that was followed and it is questionable if the long game is more digital control of citizens that is the objective.
Yes, and you are correct to put this in a global context for it was a globally co-ordinated attack by those who are not being held responsible even remotely despite the fact they clearly played major roles while also, some,
making billions. Unless that is addressed we remain extremely vulnerable especially given the position of the WHO right now.
That statement about bizarre logic is a great summary. Thank you
Morgan is a monstrous, un-flushable, sweet corn infused, calcium deficient jobby that realises he is on the wrong side of history.
I won’t forgive him for the dross printed in the Daily Mirror, the pictures of our soldiers supposedly abusing Iraqi POWs. A real cheap shot.
I was in the Middle East at the time, not long out of the military, people died because of those photographs.
Morgan is a first class Next Tuesday Warrior.
A floating bloater?
Morgan’s behaviour at the time is perfectly understandable considering his risk profile and character. He behaved like the aging, fat, coward that he is.
I am sorry to go on about this but it needs emphasising.
The DANMASK study, the only randomised controlled trial of face masks for COVID-19, came to the conclusion early in 2021 that face masks had no significant effect
This is meaningless unless you specify the effect. The effect in this case was the extent to which masks protect the wearer. The study did not look at whether masks inhibit transmission. There are loads of other issues connected to research on face masks with Covid which I debated ad nauseam yesterday.
The air goes through the mask when the wearer breathes in &, using your reasoning, the mask does not protect the wearer. The air goes out via the same mask when one exhales. If the mask doesn’t protect on the way in it sure as heck isn’t going to suddenly develop a super power when the wearer breathes out suddenly conferring protection for anyone in the vicinity of the mask wearer. If it does so in your reasoning, how does it do this?
There is another aspect re transmission which you’ve not covered – how is a mask going to protect the wearer or others from the transmission of a particle which only exists within a computer model? See Germ vs Terrain theory.
The bottom line is you may as well put up a chain link fence around a field to keep the pests away from the crop or to stop those pests escaping from the fenced field to infest crops in neighbouring fields.
Masks do have known effects on the health of wearers all of which are negative ones.
Your argument is one sided & deliberately obtuse.
…agreed BB…the torture of people, particularly children with prolonged mask-wearing throughout Convid was an egregious act….with no discernible good effect, and plenty of bad ones…we all know that….
..but as the article said yesterday, what will it take to stop the masktardards?
Maybe me and you not feeding one?
The air goes through the mask when the wearer breathes in &, using your reasoning, the mask does not protect the wearer. The air goes out via the same mask when one exhales. If the mask doesn’t protect on the way in it sure as heck isn’t going to suddenly develop a super power when the wearer breathes out suddenly conferring protection for anyone in the vicinity of the mask wearer. If it does so in your reasoning, how does it do this?
The virus is present in a much greater concentration in an infected person than in the atmosphere, even when prevalence is high. So there is much more scope for a mask to reduce the flow of infected aerosol particles being breathed out than to reduce the flow being breathed in. The two situations are completely different.
Admittedly, this problem could be reduced by training individuals on mask fit and ensuring that people wore them properly, but this wasn’t done.
Indeed, many people used facemasks fitted with valves to allow exhaled air to circumvent the mask material. It has always struck me as odd that these masks weren’t banned (or that people weren’t told to shun those who wore them). But, of course, these types of masks do still indicate compliance with the Covid rules, so they still worked for that purpose.
I still find it amusing that many people liked to wear the facemask over their mouths but not over their nose — I did think that these people were displaying a certain contempt for the rules, but I note that many people (mostly older/vulnerable) are still adopting this behaviour, suggesting that it is merely that they are ill-informed (which is itself odd given that over a gazillion pounds has been spent on public health messaging re. Covid).
“Admittedly, this problem could be reduced by training individuals on mask fit and ensuring that people wore them properly, but this wasn’t done.”
Give it a rest.
Absolute utter nonsense.
And one could go on investigating the details of how and when masks make a difference – which seems to me to be much more sensible than meaningless trials in radically different contexts.
Investigate all you like as long as you are not spending my money or making me wear one. I will not wear a mask and I do not care if they “work”.
Why? The Japanese are obsessive mask wearers, yet studies of influenza pandemics in Japan over decades have shown no reduction in spread or deaths compared to non-mask wearing Countries.
Wear glasses and a mask. The glasses steam up. That ‘steam’ is deflected upwards. For sure more breath is going round all sides of the mask.
Once that is understood, the nonsense being spoken/written about protective properties of masks is evident.
For any protective equipment to be safe and effective, it has to stop all not just some. A diving suit has to stop all the water getting in, not just some.
Anyone who wears a mask to stop a virus is ill-informed.
Try to understand ‘infected’ does not mean ‘infectious’.
Virus in an individual is not a threat to anyone outside, it is the virus being shed that poses the risk. These are shed by sneezing, nose blowing and coughing…aka symptoms…
… against which masks are no use.
Respiratory viruses are so called because they infect the respiratory tract because they are adapted to use the immune response to their presence – nasal discharge, sneezing, coughing to be propelled from the nasopharynx of infected individuals to create large aerosol clouds – the aerosol particles are too small to be stopped by paper or cloth fabrics which also allow breathing.
These aerosols circulate in enclosed spaces staying aloft for hours/days. The longer an infected person – mask or not – is present, the greater the volume, plus the more infectious people present the greater the volume.
The notion that people without symptoms – nose blowing, sneezing, coughing – can spread respiratory viruses is the propaganda which clearly plenty believed, to make people compliant and wear masks which have no practical use beyond fear-mongering and being an obvious sign of the ongoing ‘crisis’.
And the masks become water-logged with moisture from the breath within 10 to 15 minutes providing a pathway for micro-organisms in both directions.
Thanks! I forgot to add that bit!
Don’t be sorry, just stop going on about it.
Unless you have some evidence to show they worked somewhere, anywhere, in the world, during Convid then the rest of us have all the evidence we need from the numerous studies, countries and States that did not use them, and who did not suffer unduly, to make up our minds.
Unless you have some evidence to show they worked somewhere, anywhere, in the world, during Convid (sic)
Well there is that politically motived looney far left institution the bmj.
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj-2021-068302##
Conclusions This systematic review and meta-analysis suggests that several personal protective and social measures, including handwashing, mask wearing, and physical distancing are associated with reductions in the incidence covid-19
Did the BMJ point out from the beginning that claims that the jabs were safe couldn’t possibly be based on any evidence?
If not, that tells us all we need to know about them.
What does “are associated with” mean in a scientific context? As we are repeatedly told correlation (ie association) doesn.t mean causation.
The real objective, when we discovered that Covid was endemic, should have been to get everyone infected as quickly as possible so they could develop natural immunity. All the masks thing does is hark back to the Zero-Covid approach which turned out to be utterly delusional.
And along with other practical measures, such as dietary supplements that can maintain our immune systems. Notably, enhanced levels of vitamin D supplements in the winter, as suggested by John Campbell and Ivor Cummins, both with YouTube channels.
The idea of “to get everyone infected as quickly…..” was expressed on the MSM by one of the “experts”- (Valllance?) in the early days, before they told him to shut up.
No evidence from anywhere in the world then? No state, country, county that did better?
https://brownstone.org/articles/more-than-400-studies-on-the-failure-of-compulsory-covid-interventions/
These 400 studies only go up to 2021…lots more where they came from…that’s if you are actually interested in evidence, which, let’s be honest..you are not….
No evidence from anywhere in the world then?
What makes you think I wrote that? I am not aware of it. There is a vast amount of stuff of varying quality out there both for and against masks. The key note is confusion between different interventions, objectives, and contexts. My point is that the Cochrane Review doesn’t provide some kind of definitive answer.
Your list of studies is interesting but
…here’s another 170….and still plenty more where they came from…maybe this time you can tell me which ones you disagree with, why, and what studies you are basing your opposite comments on….?
https://brownstone.org/articles/studies-and-articles-on-mask-ineffectiveness-and-harms/
Obviously I don’t have time to go through all 170. I looked at the first 10. All of them were on the previous list – so not additional evidence. A quick comment on these ten:
1. The Danish study already much discussed. Doesn’t test for community transmission – only self-protection.
2. Doesn’t test for community transmission – only self-protection. Not clear wether result is statistically significant.
3. Did not cover Covid.
4. The Bangla Desh trial. – aleady much discussed.
5. CATO review. Actually surprisingly positive about masks considering CATO involvement.
6. Not Covid.
7. Not a study just a commentary. “we support the wearing of face coverings by the public when mandated and when in close contact with people whose infection status they don’t know.”
8. Not a study just a commentary.
9. Not Covid.
10. Not Covid.
I am stopping this game. It is a waste of time. We could both dig up many references against and for mask wearing and drive each other nuts. The fact is the evidence is patchy and hard to interpret either way. I come back to my main point – the Cochrane review does not solve this. It remains patchy and hard to interpret. I am not drawing any conclusions about what this means for policy.
The BMJ also says of that Talic et al meta-analysis “the quality of the current evidence would be graded—by GRADE criteria—as low or very low, as it consists of mainly observational studies with poor methods (biases in measurement of outcomes, classification of PHSM, and missing data), and high heterogeneity of effect size. More and better research are needed.”
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2729
The highest weighted of the 6 papers used for evidence of masking in that meta-analysis was Krishnamarachi 2021 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7872858/ which shows a correlation between early mask mandates in US states and lower cumulative cases. The main issue I have with that paper is that testing frequency rose massively and more or less linearly during the study period, so the mostly north-eastern states that had their first wave early and mandated masks early had their cases undercounted by a factor of maybe 4 compared to the mostly southern states that had their first wave around July and accordingly mandated masks later. Adjusting for the testing rate might well reverse the conclusion of that paper; it really only has value as propaganda.
“the quality of the current evidence would be graded—by GRADE criteria—as low or very low, as it consists of mainly observational studies with poor methods (biases in measurement of outcomes, classification of PHSM, and missing data), and high heterogeneity of effect size. More and better research are needed.
I agree – except I am not sure how easy it is to do better research – the quality of research around masks and Covid is poor. My point was that the Cochrane report doesn’t fix that problem.
Indeed, mask research is not easy, and the Cochrane report doesn’t rule out an effect. At some point along the spectrum from home-made masks to positive pressure suits, PPE has to work at least on a physical level. The Addenbrookes study https://elifesciences.org/articles/71131 suggested tentatively that FFP3/N99 respirators might be the place to start. But the “masks work” literature has on the whole been really bad, the Krishnamarachi paper mentioned above discusses numerous confounders but omits any mention of the elephant in the room which is testing frequency. For any other intervention with such a poor evidence base the public health authorities would just say “there’s no evidence” and that would be the end of it.
Excellent description for the BMJ, BMA, Lancet and adding corrupted as well.
Possibly. I doubt it, but there really has been grossly insufficient research into this area, given the impact on humanity that it caused.
What is nearly certain is that the reassurances from authority that facemasks ‘worked’ led to a significant change in behaviour, with the vast majority of people re-engaging with social activity because they felt protected. This almost certainly led to a significant increase in transmission between individuals. Not that I think it mattered that much for most (we shouldn’t have restricted behaviours in the first place), but might well have led to increase risks in the vulnerable groups.
I note that the push for wearing facemasks was largely led by society (people were shunned if they didn’t comply), but hand-washing and surface-washing (which have been shown to have a significant impact) were marginalised — sure, people went ‘through the motions’, but it really was a secondary activity in most compared with facemasking (it is almost as if facemasking was encouraged by our administrators because it was a public indication of compliance, whereas hand hygiene wasn’t so immediately visible).
Intense, unrelenting PsyOp + people’s natural inclination to social conformity = compliant masktards.
Could I include “+ total lack of scientific knowledge”, in your list please?
In September 2020 the Gates-funded IHME was, absurdly, predicting that COVID deaths in Sweden would fall almost to zero if only they would start requiring masks https://archive.is/zNWk8 – something that never happened anywhere, except perhaps in the equally absurd Jena study that the CDC advanced as “proof” that masks work.
Hi Amanuensis,
Really appreciate your work and comments but herd immunity was really the only way forward. Hence any discussion about masks for the general public is superfluous. Ie if you were healthy, you should have gone without a mask, got the virus and got over it. If you were in a risk category, followed focused protection, and not risked going out with a face mask that really was never going to be useful in protecting you(or others).
As for surfaces..other than in hospital settings where measures are more extreme, I haven’t read anything that says Covid transmission from a surface is anything that anyone should worry about….rather the opposite..for the general public surface transmission plays a very minor role.
Can we just put the mask thing to bed once and for all please? Masks have never been an appropriate tool in protecting from viruses, as the significant mountain of evidence demonstrates, and unless lunatic people want to ride the bus or do their shopping wearing respirators then the notion of masks being worn by regular members of the public in a community or healthcare setting is just insane on multiple levels. The End.
Absolutely Mogs. The End.
Exactly what I think……Prior to 2020, you would never have found any doctor suggesting paper masks for virus control…it’s part of the Covid Con entirely….multi-million pound contracts having no bearing on it!….LOL!
My friend a nurse for many years told me at the beginning that paper masks are used for no more than 20 minutes..then binned….they are never used for virus control but for protection from blood spatter, or to stop you dribbling into someone’s wound while you are dealing with it….
The idea that anyone thinks a bit of paper over their face does anything, doesn’t need any evidence, it’s patently ludicrous….
It also strengthens the idea of masking children when adults go along with it..which is criminal in my opinion. The harm that has been done to children, and handicapped children, is a stain on the people that allowed it or encouraged it…..
You did not debate you just rammed your point of view at the rest of us.
Your case us still garbage.
I’m not going to wear a mask for covid or any other low consequence virus. Ever. I don’t care whether they “work” or not – any “benefit” will NEVER outweigh the costs. Same for lockdowns.
Specious nonsense.
You are suffering from Piers Morgan syndrome, clearly.
Christ you are clueless.
If your Stabs worked why the face anus wraps
If the face anus wraps worked why were the Rona tards getting Rona?
If the stabs + face anus wraps worked why did the Rona tards die?
F-off. Christ I am sick of arselings who ‘irrationalise’ wearing baby shit catchers over their stupid ugly yaps.
An effective barrier to penetration to micro-organisms cannot be one way. Rule N°1 of infection control – 100% single barrier.
Masks were never intended nor designed to protect the wearer.
The ONLY effective mask against airborne pathogens, are tight fitting masks, which also cover the face, fitted with hepafilters.
Morgan acted true to form:as the odious self-important bloviating windbag that he is. Not for nothing did Private Eye many moons ago christen him Piers (Moron) Morgan.
Was he asked whether he benefitted financially from his role in spreading the propaganda? I think lots of “influencers” on social media were paid (or their employer was paid, through advertising or “donations”) to promote the narrative.
Even if he wasn’t, my view was that he and many others (Jeremy Vine, for instance) were simply revealing their inner fascism – bullying behaviour to implement their preferred option, suppress alternative viewpoints and intimidate opposition.
Maybe because Mr Kisin remembers what he tweeted 24th March 2020…
“I’m a big fan of individual rights and freedoms. I don’t like the Government telling people what to do. BUT I can’t understand complaints about the lockdown putting people “under house arrest”.
There are times when we have to set aside our own needs and preferences…to protect others…
I went to a park for my daily walk yesterday: kids playing full contact basketball, adults socialising, teenagers passing a joint around. London Tube packed. Some people were clearly not listening…..
For decades, we were a “me me me” culture. Navel gazing, obsessed with our petty little identities. Coronavirus is our generation’s challenge. The one time we have to set aside selfishness and work together to survive and protect the vulnerable.
My right to go to the pub or even go to work does not trump someone else’s right to live. It really is as simple as that. Speak to doctors on the front line – their colleagues are dying. Their patients are dying. And the more “freedom” we have, the more will die
Our grandparents didn’t complain about the “erosion of civil liberties” as they went off to fight evil. No one is shipping us to the Eastern Front, we’re being asked to spend a few weeks at home.
Excessive comfort breeds this sort of narcissism. We have been too comfortable for too long and so we have forgotten the fundamental truth that we need each other. Our society is built on cooperation. We need it now more than ever. /End”
I know he has been called out on this by other people, (and I agree with them, I never thought these things even in the beginning)….and has said he only thought this for a very short time during the first lockdown…so maybe that’s why he has a bit of sympathy with Piers….Having initially got it so very wrong himself?
““I’m a big fan of individual rights and freedoms. I don’t like the Government telling people what to do. BUT…”
Everything that precedes a ‘but’ is bullshit.
…yes, I know he regrets these comments now, but he does try to defend himself by saying ‘everyone was going along with it at the time’..which is another no-no in my book…perhaps one of the pitfalls of believing people want to hear what you have to say on every subject and tweeting all the time?!
Masks only work in hospitals due to a PPE shortage. Masks work on mannequins. Masks work no matter if they’re made of cloth and now you must wear one by law. Hmm.
Epidemics grow exponentially never mind the laws of Maths and 90 year old epidemiological models.
It’s amazing how unchanging science is.
‘At the time’ not all scientists were agreeing over asymptomatic spread. I remember one very credible retired NHS pathologist who back in the first half of 2021 was saying that the evidence for asymptomatic spread was very weak and that many people who tesed positive on the PCR tests would once upon a time simply have been called immune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spmPax0rq5A see 9’21”
As many people are getting tired of saying – The information WAS out there.
It’s not a matter of ‘science’, it’s about decades of medical observation and knowledge.
Since respiratory viruses have evolved to take advantage of symptoms to spread – nasal discharge, sneezing, coughing – and since the first symptoms are caused by the immune response to the presence of the virus in the nasopharynx, the whole notion of respiratory viruses being spread without symptoms is simply nonsense. You might as well say you can catch a Cold by talking to someone on the phone who has one.
If there are no noticeable symptoms, possible if the viral load is so small and the immune system nails it almost immediately, then the individual is not infectious.
For an infected individual to be infectious requires about at least 24 hours of viral reproduction in the mucosal cells – and that certainly will be accompanied by symptoms.
I blame Morgan’s bloviating on his ITV platform for starting much of the public panic that led to lockdowns in early 2020. I also suspect he ghost-wrote a couple of his wife’s articles in the Telegraph (either that or they both rant in exactly the same way, which must make dinner parties at their house a pretty rowdy affair!)
In one article, Celia Walden seemed to advocate holding people down on the floor and forcibly injecting them with the ‘vaccine’ drugs. She also said the virus had killed ‘six million’ people – at the time the estimate was 600,000 max and that included ‘died with’. The Telegraph removed that line later in the day!
I actually quite like Morgan as entertainment, but his ranting had deadly consequences to our liberty in 2020.
Yes. Morgan’s ranting will have caused suffering and death, one way or another.
He and Doris are out of the same Me, Me, Me, and sod the consequences, mould.
Comedian Alistair Williams’ takedown of Piers Morgan and Trigonometry…
https://rumble.com/v2earb6-piers-morgan-owned-by-triggernoms.html
Yes. The thing people fail to comprehend with the Triggernometry chaps is that they deliberately don’t challenge all the things people say. They let people say their piece and deliberately move on, leaving that person’s opinion in the open to be judged by the audience. It’s a subtle, clever approach and they’ve been wrongly accused of being ‘nodding donkeys’ at times. The likes of Francis Farmer and Konstantin Kisin give me hope for the future. Many of the best columnists speaking out for our freedoms are in their 70s. The fear is that, when they’re gone, who will continue to speak out an be their successors? That fear is being assuaged by the new generation of commentators.
But meanwhile…reportedly 70% of the global population has been Covid jabbed, without authentic voluntary informed consent.
Yes, it’s shocking. I’m not one of the jabbed. I fear for what I’ll see in the future. I now know many jabbed people who have suddenly developed heart conditions or had heart attacks, including my own mother, who was very poorly after the third Pfizer jab. A friend of the family who had no history of heart trouble is in an induced coma after huge heart attack, where they discovered his heart was jammed up with clots. My parents’ chiropodist (a trained former NHS nurse) told us she’s sent about two dozen clients to hospital after finding blood clots on their legs.
It’s very grim DomH75…
Billions of people coerced into having unnecessary medical interventions…
No authentic voluntary informed consent…
The medical profession is a major culprit…health practitioners should not have cooperated with coercive medical interventions.
This is an appalling ethical failure with ginormous political and medical consequences.
Comedian Alistair Williams – a comedian in his own mind. I watched him occasionally on YouTube and he never failed to bore me rigid.
I hadn’t heard of him before seeing this video. Think he nails it here…
Reminds me of the legendary boxing promoter Don King. In the 1995 title fight at Wembley he entered the ring with the entourage of champion Oliver McCall. At the end he was in the ring celebrating with the new champion Frank Bruno. After a few rounds he saw which way the fight was going and made sure he positioned himself to be seen with the winner.
Of course when Piers Morgan was pushing for lockdowns the Whitty/Vallance “science” was saying that they weren’t necessary.
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Morgan can squirm and equivocate all he wants. He was a prominent mouthpiece (à la human centipede) of the whole sh(*)tshow, threw his weight around like a playground bully. Other bullies in his audience will have used his witless/bought/unevidenced cruelties, copied them, added their own menaces/brutalities and terrorised their own neighbourhoods – that is our grandparents, parents, children, friends, neighbours. He’s a coward of the first order and undoubtedly must share the responsibility for coercing people into further sickness and death. Repulsive.
A far too generous assessment OPP.
The science with respect to nature, behaviour, transmission of respiratory viruses is the same now as it was in March 2020, and in the decades prior. The science regarding safe and effective vaccines/cures for respiratory viruses after decades of exhaustive research is the same now as it was decades ago – there are none.
Morgan et al knew nor know no science, so whether it changed or not would make no difference. He just backed the wrong horse and is now trying to cover his backside and spare his blushes.
And we are having a repeat with The Science™️ of climate change, select credentialed experts, talking heads, celebs and royalty who doubtless one day will recant when – The Science Changed™️… that is if we actually survive this madness.
We need rope.
“He just backed the wrong horse”
If he just backed the wrong horse, he might be forgivable. He did so in an arrogant, bullying and divisive manner, from a position of authority, when he knew (as a minimum) that the injections were experimental. He revealed himself as unethical and somewhat fascistic.
I would like to know what Piers thinks that about climate catastrophism. The same tactics and propaganda are being used to shut down world renowned scientists and public debate. The same people and organisations such as WEF and the world’s most famous corrupt doctor, Bill Gates are front and centre in the war on modern life. I would like to know when coercion stopped being illegal and if those guilty of it, including the majority of government and the msm, will ever face justice. We are likely to hear the same hollow apologies from these people in the near future.
I watch Triggernometry. I will not be watching Morgan’s fake mea culpa. I also watch some TalkTV output (not every day, but J H-B and Mike Graham).
I will never watch Morgan.
very dislikable individual. Cut off his access to people and don’t give him air time. Interviews like this just keep feeding his ego
There doesn’t appear to be a fag paper to put between Piers Morgan and Boris Johnson regarding truth or trust.