• Login
  • Register
The Daily Sceptic
No Result
View All Result
  • Articles
  • About
  • Archive
    • ARCHIVE
    • NEWS ROUND-UPS
  • Podcasts
  • Newsletter
  • Premium
  • Donate
  • Log In
The Daily Sceptic
No Result
View All Result

Mainstream Media ‘Misinformation’ Has Caused Far More Harm Than Joe Rogan

by Noah Carl
16 February 2022 2:02 PM

Ever since the airing of his interview with Dr Robert Malone, a critic of the mass rollout of Covid vaccines, Joe Rogan has been under more or less constant attack from those who would have him cancelled.

First, celebrities like Neil Young and Joni Mitchell threatened to pull their music from Spotify unless the company dropped him. Spotify owns the rights to broadcast Rogan’s hugely successful podcast, ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’, after signing a $100 million deal with him in 2020.

Next, a group of 270 ‘experts’ (only 87 of whom were actually doctors) penned an open letter denouncing Rogan, and demanding that Spotify “immediately establish” a policy to “moderate misinformation on its platform”.

Then the singer-songwriter India Arie posted a video compilation of Rogan saying the N-word, leading to accusations of ‘racism’ and further calls for censorship. Though Rogan apologised, as far as I’m aware, he never actually called anyone the N-word. Rather, he uttered it while commenting on the term itself.

And, remember, it’s only in the last few years that you’re not even allowed to mention the N-word (in the sense of what philosophers call the use-mention distinction). Even President Biden said it out loud when quoting someone else in Congress in 1985. Should he now be cancelled?

In the most absurd twist yet, CNN ran a piece titled ‘Joe Rogan’s use of the n-word is another January 6 moment’, though the title was later changed.

One could be forgiven for assuming that the campaign to cancel Rogan has less to do with his supposed role in spreading ‘misinformation’ than the fact he doesn’t blindly parrot whatever narrative the media is pushing at any particular time. After all, he’s interviewed pro-vaccine scientists as well as those who’re more sceptical.

Rogan’s own position on the Covid vaccines is perfectly reasonable, and barely differs from what scientists like Martin Kulldorff and Jay Bhattacharya have been saying. In April of last year, Rogan stated:

I’m not an anti-vaxx person. I said I believe they’re safe and I encourage many people to take them … My parents were vaccinated. I just said that if you’re a young, healthy person that you don’t need it.

Here’s the strongest way of framing the case against Rogan. By exaggerating the risks and downplaying the benefits of vaccines, or interviewing scientists who’ve done so, Rogan has discouraged people from getting vaccinated, which has cost those people their lives.

Even if this is true, I would say that mainstream media ‘misinformation’ has caused far more harm. So if you’re going to censor Rogan, you ought to censor all the big newspapers and TV channels as well. (Or better yet, don’t censor anyone.)

What do I mean? The media repeatedly told us that everyone needs to get vaccinated – regardless of age, health or prior Covid status. But if we’d refrained from vaccinating healthy young people, and those with a prior infection, we could have donated millions of vaccines to people in poor countries who actually needed them.

Insofar as it prevented us from donating vaccines at a time when doing so could have made a difference, the injunction to vaccine everyone has cost many more lives than anything Joe Rogan or his guests have said. And note: this injunction was partly based on yet another piece of ‘misinformation’ – that the vaccines stop transmission.

Even if we just consider ‘misinformation’ surrounding the vaccines, the mainstream media comes out looking far worse than Rogan (who, I’d remind you, has interviewed people on both sides of the debate). Add in the ‘lab leak conspiracy theory’ narrative, and there’s really no comparison.

Tags: Joe RoganMisinformationVaccines

Donate

We depend on your donations to keep this site going. Please give what you can.

Donate Today

Comment on this Article

You’ll need to set up an account to comment if you don’t already have one. We ask for a minimum donation of £5 if you'd like to make a comment or post in our Forums.

Sign Up
Previous Post

Vaccine Safety Update

Next Post

Lockdown Debate Shut Down by Smearing of Sceptical Scientists on Social Media

Subscribe
Login
Notify of
Please log in to comment

To join in with the discussion please make a donation to The Daily Sceptic.

Profanity and abuse will be removed and may lead to a permanent ban.

63 Comments
Oldest
Newest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Moist Von Lipwig
Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago

Indeed, Joe Rogan has not been broadcasting ‘misinformation’, he’s been broadcasting opinion.

By contrast, the media has been the equivalent of the Pyongyang news bureau in broadcasting the repackaged fake science of Trofim Lysenko and demanding everyone disagreeing be censored and shamed.

85
0
Innocent bystander
Innocent bystander
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

This is what the Danes say. Quite a U-turn. Straight from the Horse´s mouth.
https://en.ssi.dk/covid-19/typical-misinformation-regarding-danish-covid-numbers

8
0
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Moist Von Lipwig

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/yes-the-vaccines-were-supposed-to

Some misinformation providers

comment image

comment image

comment image

comment image

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/yes-the-vaccines-were-supposed-to

26
0
Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Didn’t they know by May that it didn’t prevent transmission? And for that matter did they know about the “extremely rare” myocarditis links by then? (And did we ever find out anything definite about Christian Erikssen? It seems it is still disputed).

4
0
arthur.c
arthur.c
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

It was clear to those of us who live in the real world before May last year that the vaccines didn’t prevent contraction or transmission. Only the “experts” remained convinced – or pretended to be – that this was not the case. It is also true that someone who is not vaccinated poses ZERO “threat” to someone who is, which makes the vicious campaign against by the media and certain politicians so utterly disgraceful!

0
0
Julian
Julian
3 years ago

Almost everything about covid from MSM, almost every government, public health body, academic institution, Big Pharma, etc has been a Big Lie

It’s the biggest lie ever told in human history, by far

107
0
David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes and currently the children are the innocent victims of the Big Pharma lies! But nobody seems to care!

55
0
Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

What horrifies me is the extent to which it has been believed. I found the atmosphere of hysteria astonishing in March 2020, and since then there seems to have been what looks alarmingly like a willing suspension of disbelief.
Were people’s lives so dull that they believed anything that seemed exciting? How could they accept restrictions they had never before encountered as civic duties incumbent upon their entire society?

20
0
RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Dutifully brought upon us by our caste of politically and socially leading Quislings.

1
0
Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

Police Came To Arrest Protesters in Canada, and then THIS happened ….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e235ro_l3Xw
Dr. Steve Turley

Don’t get complacent. Let’s keep getting the message out with our friendly resistance.

Thursday 17th February 4pm to 5pm
Yellow Boards By the Road  
A321 Wargrave Road (Twyford Side) 
near Junction A4 new Bath Road 
Twyford RG10 9PW

Stand in the Park Sundays 10am  make friends, ignore the madness & keep sane 
Wokingham Howard Palmer Gardens Cockpit Path car park Sturges Rd RG40 2HD  
Henley Mills Meadows (at the bandstand) Henley-on-Thames RG9 1DS

Telegram Group 
http://t.me/astandintheparkbracknell

Last edited 3 years ago by Lockdown Sceptic
20
0
Dame Lynet
Dame Lynet
3 years ago

Instead of framing it the pious, virtue-signally way of ‘saving poor people overseas by giving them our unused jabs’, we could have just stuck to viewing it as both saving them and also people in our own countries from jab injury and death.

25
0
PoshPanic
PoshPanic
3 years ago

The Ministry of Propaganda has a message on how we move forward and live with Covid.

Don’t be alarmed, it’s definitely not misinformation..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y5gvVZ7wSs&t=1s

MinistryProp.jpg
12
0
Draefend
Draefend
3 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

Nasty business, cant be too careful. Thanks for sharing.

2
0
Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago

Do us a favour. Either actually use the word under discussion, or if that’s too horrifying a prospect, at come up with something snappier for it. I like “the rap-word”.

6
-1
Dobba
Dobba
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Pisses me off seeing it written as ‘the N-Word’. I’ve vented below about it.

4
0
RickH
RickH
3 years ago

“we could have donated millions of vaccines to people in poor countries who actually needed them.”

What have poor people ever done to you, Noah?

What an incredibly stupid suggestion.

53
-1
Deborah T
Deborah T
3 years ago

Suggestion – put ‘cancelled’ in quotes? Let’s not use their silly language.

7
0
Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

Done. See post below!

Last edited 3 years ago by Hugh
0
0
D B
D B
3 years ago

But are the deaths of those supposed poor countries higher or lower than those in the rich ones… I think we’d kill them more if we donated vaccines as their health systems are unlikely to be able to cope with the side affects.

27
0
John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  D B

I’m with you on this. The ‘undeveloped’ world seems to have weathered the last 2 years relatively unscathed. The only reason to give them vaxxes would be to emulate those drug dealers who give the unwary a free ‘taste’ in the hope of stimulating a more lucrative future relationship.

21
0
Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Unscathed in terms of “covid”. Disastrous in other ways (can you still say “third world” or is that now banned like “BAME” (apart from in NHS job ads) and “N-word”?).

5
0
Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  D B

A reminder. Current “covid” deaths in Kenya (a country with a similar population to England) according to Worldometer are currently 5,633. A country where people went hungry and teenage girls had to do “bad things” to survive as a result of lockdowns around the world, including the UK’s, which badly hit their vital flower exports, and with no equivalent generous furlough scheme. Never forget.

20
0
David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

The MSM misinformation and censorship of truth is still happening – shock pictures of young children being force vaccinated (wrongly, without aspiration of the syringe to ensure the the needle has not gone into a vein) in Dorset posted today -surrounded by Disney characters!

Myocarditis in children caused by the injections anyone? Vaccine of no value to children and much more dangerous than a virus that does not affect them ?

No-one in Government media the least bit interested. What else is being concealed by the “real news” Media blackout ?

35
0
Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

In Dorset?!! So human rights violations not just in the Democratic Republic of Congo or tyrant Trudeau’s Canada or Austria, but here in England? A new low.

7
0
Fraser Nelsons Underpants
Fraser Nelsons Underpants
3 years ago

The mainstream media has it in for Rogan because they can only dream of drawing the audiences he attracts. Not once has it occurred to them why it might be that audiences are flocking to Rogan while simultaneously abandoning “trusted news sources.” They arrogantly presume it is because us thickos don’t appreciate proper journalism but on the contrary it is because the mainstream media no longer questions anything and often manipulates its audience with outright dishonesty (the “horse paste” nonsense being a good example).

The mainstream media’s modus operandi is to parrot the establishment narrative and shut down any alternative. Why would anyone choose to tune in to that? Why should anyone care what these people have to say? At least Rogan treats his audience as adults who can make up their own minds and is genuinely curious about the subjects he talks about.

As for Neil Young and Joni Mitchell, just another couple of frightened old boomers who have completely lost touch with reality after two years of brainwashing. None of us should be taking directions from the mentally ill.

Last edited 3 years ago by Fraser Nelsons Underpants
57
0
John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  Fraser Nelsons Underpants

I suppose Neil and Joni are straining for updated relevance, since ‘enthusiasts’ listen mainly to their early back-catalogues.

4
0
Innocent bystander
Innocent bystander
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

I don´t think they own their catalogues any more. There are other people calling the shots.

7
0
RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

During the Irak war (ok, that’s already a long time ago for a lot of people) CSNY did a protest album & tour. I have that and quite liked it at that time, ie, before I stopped believing in counterculture-anything due to learning how it transformed into current practice. It’s also a bit unclear why rich older people would strain for relevance. The idea that they’re actually afraid of The Terrible Rona[tm] due to belonging to a so-called vulnerable group seems more plausible to me.

2
0
steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago

“But if we’d refrained from vaccinating healthy young people, and those with a prior infection, we could have donated millions of vaccines to people in poor countries who actually needed them.”

yes. literally no point vaccinating me while vulnerable people abroad go without.

the covi-panickers do not have the moral high ground. they are vaccine nationalists

9
0
jageti9059
jageti9059
3 years ago

Indeed, Joe Rogan has not been broadcasting ‘misinformation’, he’s been broadcasting opinion.
By contrast, the media has been the equivalent of the Pyongyang news bureau in broadcasting the repackaged fake science of Trofim Lysenko and demanding everyone disagreeing be censored and shamed.

6
0
Gilly99
Gilly99
3 years ago
Reply to  jageti9059

That’s a great analogy!!

0
0
DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago

Totally agree about MSM, also the nightly media bulletins, nothing to reassure anyone. But the comment ‘I’m not an anti-vaxx person. I said I believe they’re safe and I encourage many people to take them … My parents were vaccinated. ‘ is no argument. People took many things in the past that we wouldnt recommend now.

8
0
John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I’d recommend a pinch of salt be taken with virtually anything in the MSM.
Remember folks, recommended daily max for sodium is 2.6 grams, which might required rationing your exposure to MSM output.

9
0
pjar
pjar
3 years ago

Interestingly, perhaps, the BBC’s Covid in Africa Tracker seems to suggest that the poorest countries, least able to afford the vaccine, which might have benefitted from the donation of supplies as suggested, have the lowest death rates from Covid… go figure, as our American friends might say!

24
0
John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  pjar

A lot have gone ivermectin and CHQ route, with greater success than the West’s expensive vax drive. But Fauci doesn’t want you to know that.

18
0
Bolloxed Britannia
Bolloxed Britannia
3 years ago

The murderous Eugenicist Neo-Nazi establishment are apoplectic because it would appear that Rogan has woken a few million compliant cretins from their Government induced psy-ops coma! He’s still poking the globocap Wasps nest with his latest interview with Steven E Koonin! Good man, keep it up Joe 👍

19
0
John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago

In the most absurd twist yet, CNN ran…

They seem to have adopted absurd twists as their USP at the increasingly irrelevant CNN.
I wonder if the medics will switch off their life support, or whether they’ll be left to gasp their last.

0
0
RW
RW
3 years ago

Here’s the strongest way of framing the case against Rogan. By exaggerating the risks and downplaying the benefits of vaccines, or interviewing people who’ve done so, Rogan has discouraged some people from getting vaccinated, and this – in turn – has cost those people their lives.

That’s no case. Rogan hosts a show, he’s not an evil sorcerer. Hence, his words have no direct power over either people or things. That some people claim to believe otherwise is of no consequence. And since the dead are dead, they can’t serve as witnesses for some case anymore and no one can legitmitately claim to be a spokesperson for them unless he considers himself to be a psychic (hopefully the correct term).

Side conclusion: If Corona’s Witnesses (and wokester in general) are serious about the need to fight against words of evil power and in speaking on behalf of the dead, they must believe in magic.

6
0
Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

“Here’s the strongest way of framing the case against Rogan. By exaggerating the risks and downplaying the benefits of vaccines, or interviewing people who’ve done so, Rogan has discouraged some people from getting vaccinated, and this – in turn – has cost those people their lives.”

This is merely a justification of censorship, which can be extended to anything those holding the levers of power wish to determine/pretend might lead people to doing the wrong thing.

8
0
RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I know that. But they’re essentially accusing Rogan of witchcraft. And that’s nonsense. The weasel-wording doesn’t change this.

2
0
DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

‘This in turn has cost people their lives’, there is no more proof than those saying the vaccine has saved lives, how do they know people would have died, the av. age of dying is still 82

6
0
RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

This is a quote from Carl’s article and not a statement I made. I’ve addressed a specific point of that I wanted to address. Other points can be addressed as well. But this would be better done in a comment that’s not related to mine.

0
0
mwhite
mwhite
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/085/284/838/original/b77baae8ab60b848.mp4

0
0
DanClarke
DanClarke
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

Thanks, I did realise that and was re quoting a point from the statement

0
0
Nicholas Britton
Nicholas Britton
3 years ago

News from Canada. Trudeau and Canadian government have interests in Pfizer…
https://youtu.be/GH83mObwP1M

4
0
Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Nicholas Britton

Shock. Horror.

Do let me know when one of these crooks doesn’t have interests…

Last edited 3 years ago by Hugh
3
0
mwhite
mwhite
3 years ago

EXPOSED: Neil Young heavily linked to big pharma and Pfizer (poptopic.com.au)

“On January 6, 2021, Neil Young sold half of his catalogue to Merck Mercuriadis’ Hipgnosis Song Management company. Later that year Hipgnosis merged with Blackstone in a USD$1Bn deal. However, just a month before the merger Blackstone announced that they appointed Pfizer’s former Chairman and CEO Jeffrey B Kindler as the company’s Senior Advisor.”



8
0
Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

Another one…

2
0
BS665
BS665
3 years ago

Only idiots believe that a politicised ‘consensus’ about dubitable scientific questions in the MSM justifies absolute faith in those shifting questions and hatred of those who point out holes in them.

In short, most people are fools who do not know what science is nor how it works. They swallowed The Science and cannot now regurgitate it.

3
0
Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I wonder what the consensus is among physicians and medical scientists (including those who are retired or no longer working for them) who definitely do not have links to the pharmaceutical industry?

1
0
Dobba
Dobba
3 years ago

The ‘N-Word’. FFS! Context is everything and how you use a word is paramount. More woke bullshit. You can’t say that word if white, even as a quote, but can if any other colour, even mixed race and in many forms of music is thrown about as if it’s word of the week.

7
0
Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Dobba

Isn’t that racist?

I seem to remember that some people in the North of England have been proven to have African ancestry from when the Romans were here…

0
0
Eric Olthwaite
Eric Olthwaite
3 years ago

…

TRUE.jpg
13
0
Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

Did we ever find out if “the N-word” can still be used on LS?

So far as I’m concerned, The Dambusters is a nice family film, but maybe it would be considered 18 rated now?

I’ve no wish to offend anyone. Still, I’d like to know what year this word became x-rated, and why nobody should be allowed to use it in any context now – apart from groups who are allowed to use it.

I assume that Trudeau will face being “cancelled” on similar grounds…

6
0
thorsteinn@sjonarrond.is
thorsteinn@sjonarrond.is
3 years ago

I understand Neil Young is is back on Spotify, just didn’t tell anybody.

3
0
AlbertHope
AlbertHope
3 years ago

Prosecuting Fauci should reveal much about the origins of this malaise.

2
0
Luis RCoelho
Luis RCoelho
3 years ago

If anyone out there is a christian, know that Joe Rogan is an anti-christian bigot, a freemason/satanist with links t o church of satan’s Stanton LaVey.

0
-1
Gilly99
Gilly99
3 years ago
Reply to  Luis RCoelho

So what?

4
0
Gilly99
Gilly99
3 years ago

Jesus H Christ…… I’m with Ricky Gervais on all this. Everyone has the right to offend anyone, by saying anything, as long as not inciting violence. Then anybody who is offended can either leave, or retort, or call-out anything that is blatant misinformation. Those rights to free speech are being cancelled by this virtue signalling, woke, lefty nonsense!!!….and Science is a debate of theories and analysis, slowly refined to an agreed position based on proven facts.

9
0
wantok87
wantok87
3 years ago

There is no trial on the use of mRNA vaccines in those with previous infection.It is not only MSM but supine clinicians and scientists who are aware that masks don’t work and vaccines are leaky and most importantly that the unvaccinated carry no measurable risk.Vaccination of 5 year olds! We need a U.K. Joe Rogan

4
0
Mybodymyfuckingchoice
Mybodymyfuckingchoice
3 years ago

Instead of donating useless vaccines how about use the money wasted on them to build a decent health service? (not a new thought I know)

0
0
SimCS
SimCS
3 years ago

If by “poor countries” you mean Africa and India, take a look at their per-capita death rates. They’re at the BOTTOM of the table. If you really want to save lives via the vaccine, then just don’t give it to anyone, and instead use the well-known, provably ‘safe and effective’ therapeutics for both preventative and early-stage treatment.

2
0
Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago

Joe Rogan hasn’t ”caused any harm”.

2
0

NEWSLETTER

View today’s newsletter

To receive our latest news in the form of a daily email, enter your details here:

DONATE

PODCAST

Episode 36 of the Sceptic: Karl Williams on Starmer’s Phoney Immigration Crackdown, Dan Hitchens on the Assisted Suicide Bill and Tom Jones on Reform’s Local Council Challenge

by Richard Eldred
16 May 2025
0

LISTED ARTICLES

  • Most Read
  • Most Commented
  • Editor’s Picks

Chinese ‘Kill Switches’ Found in US Solar Farms

15 May 2025
by Will Jones

News Round-Up

16 May 2025
by Richard Eldred

Spy Agency Report on the Alleged “Extremism” of AfD Turns Out to Be So Stupid That it Destroys all Momentum for Banning the Party

16 May 2025
by Eugyppius

The Folly of Solar – a Dot on the Horizon Versus a Blight on the Land

16 May 2025
by Ben Pile

Civil Servants Threaten to Strike Over Trans Ban in Women’s Lavatories

16 May 2025
by Will Jones

The Folly of Solar – a Dot on the Horizon Versus a Blight on the Land

29

Civil Servants Threaten to Strike Over Trans Ban in Women’s Lavatories

25

Spy Agency Report on the Alleged “Extremism” of AfD Turns Out to Be So Stupid That it Destroys all Momentum for Banning the Party

19

News Round-Up

18

Chinese ‘Kill Switches’ Found in US Solar Farms

27

Trump’s Lesson in Remedial Education

16 May 2025
by Dr James Allan

Spy Agency Report on the Alleged “Extremism” of AfD Turns Out to Be So Stupid That it Destroys all Momentum for Banning the Party

16 May 2025
by Eugyppius

The Folly of Solar – a Dot on the Horizon Versus a Blight on the Land

16 May 2025
by Ben Pile

Renaud Camus on the Destruction of Western Education

15 May 2025
by Dr Nicholas Tate

‘Why Can’t We Talk About This?’

15 May 2025
by Richard Eldred

POSTS BY DATE

February 2022
M T W T F S S
 123456
78910111213
14151617181920
21222324252627
28  
« Jan   Mar »

SOCIAL LINKS

Free Speech Union
  • Home
  • About us
  • Donate
  • Privacy Policy

Facebook

  • X

Instagram

RSS

Subscribe to our newsletter

© Skeptics Ltd.

Welcome Back!

Login to your account below

Forgotten Password? Sign Up

Create New Account!

Fill the forms below to register

All fields are required. Log In

Retrieve your password

Please enter your username or email address to reset your password.

Log In
No Result
View All Result
  • Articles
  • About
  • Archive
    • ARCHIVE
    • NEWS ROUND-UPS
  • Podcasts
  • Newsletter
  • Premium
  • Donate
  • Log In

© Skeptics Ltd.

wpDiscuz
You are going to send email to

Move Comment
Perfecty
Do you wish to receive notifications of new articles?
Notifications preferences