Almost 10,000 extra people have died from non-Covid illnesses in England and Wales since the summer, according to the Office for National Statistics. MailOnline has more.
Experts have demanded an urgent investigation into whether the deaths were avoidable and if the current NHS crisis and emergency care delays are to blame.
There have been around 21,000 more deaths from all causes than average since July, according to Office for National Statistics data up to November 5th.
Oxford University’s Professor Carl Heneghan, an eminent expert in evidence-based medicine, said he suspected many of the excess deaths were “potentially reversible”.
He told the Telegraph: “This goes beyond just looking at the raw numbers and death certificates. We need to go back and find if these deaths have any preventable causes. This could be the fallout from the lack of preventable care during the pandemic.”
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10,000 #rare extra deaths.
Well we already have a strong suspicion about what caused at least 1700 of them:
https://dailysceptic.org/2021/11/16/vaccine-safety-update-18/
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting
And perhaps this story explains many of the others.
https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/20/coronavirus-lockdown-cause-200000-extra-deaths-13014848/
Data service for the prejudiced :
So the failure of the Conservative-led governments since 2010 to increase spending on the NHS as much as their predecessors is the cause of a sudden spike in excess mortality since July 2021 (even though excess mortality was entirely normal for the previous decade) and has nothing to do with the effective closure of the NHS to non-COVID patients for the best part of a year?
I see.
Not sure how much my care is improved by my GP leasing a different Porsche more often
septic not sceptic
He can visit more patients more often?
You attempt to deny the connection between available resources and the ability of an organisation to respond to challenge. That is stupid.
Senior nurse at RUH in Bath to me (20 years+ experience), some years ago when I asked her about management…
“Management? Dickheads with clipboards who stop us working”
Quite.
you’ll get no argument from me there. The advance of managerialism has been a vast waste of resources in all sectors. Thatcher has much to answer for. The solution is obvious – more worker control – like it was when people who knew something (Doctors and senior nurses) ran thing in the NHS – cleaners weren’t dragged off the street to fulfill casual private contracts and we weren’t paying massively over the odds for bank and temp staff while staff trained at public expense are poached by the private sector to treat the rich
Um. It was Blair who managerised the public sector.
I think its fair to say he finished the job off. It’s cute how so many of the hard of thinking herd here believe I am defending Labour
I didn’t + Blair idolised Thatcher ! His family liner-age is Tory ,!
I don’t care who you are, or are not, defending. But a cursory glance at the available evidence will show you that Thatcher had nothing to do with the explosion of so called managers & directors in the NHS; all in pursuit of the wonderful targets that were set – and gamed.
Fatcha! No milk, no justice!
That’s true in all disciplines and environments, not just the NHS!
yep
The NHS is challenged every winter. This was true throughout the 2010-2019 period shown by your simplistic graph. And yet, excess mortality was nothing special in any of those years. And yet this year, we have a sudden, unexplained, spike in excess mortality. Why is the supposed lack of expenditure on the NHS SUDDENLY causing excess mortality when it didn’t in the preceding 10 years of “underfunding”.
Because that is the point you are trying to make, isn’t it?
I have never in my life voted Conservative, and have never in my life voted Labour. Attempts to bring party politics into this wholesale failure of THE ENTIRE POLITICAL ESTABLISHMENT to deal with a not very deadly virus is risible.
The outcome for the UK’s health would have been no different under Labour, or a Lib Dem coalition, and more money in 2010-2019 would have made no difference, because the excess mortality we are seeing now is the result of:
In fact the outcome would arguably have been worse because throughout the pandemic the Labour Party’s only criticism of the government is that it should have locked down harder, earlier, and longer, which would have caused even more collateral health damage while failing to make any difference to a virus which cannot be stopped.
Sadly your comment is mostly logical nonsense and pure biased speculation. Wood/trees and prejudiced thinking – use less words:
AN UNDER RESOURCED SYSTEM IS LIKELY TO FAIL WHEN CHALLENGED.
Not recognizing that is just daft.
“fewer” words. Not “less”.
I have already wasted too much time on your comments. Goodbye.
Thought not pedantry.
You are an insult to Douglas Adams.
I’ll try to temporarily be the advisory, conciliation and arbitration service (the UK used to have one, to resolve labour/management disputes, but I digress…)
The powers that be are definitely trying to divide and rule, otherwise how do they perpetuate the shit-show and stop the narrative falling apart (see Dr Chris Martenson’s talk on just that a few months ago, peakprosperity.com.)
We should be careful to look at what new people say because statistically they’re a lot more likely to be genuine than to be from the SIS. We can’t afford to get divided into ‘left vs. right’. On the basis of what we see since 2019 it’s now the aim of democracy and localism versus global top-down tyranny. (Simon Elmer and Piers Corbyn have said almost the same as Toby Young or James Delingpole.)
A rose amongst thorns.The binary nature of much debate is indeed aimed at divide and rule of “the people”. But is this not why cynical contrarians like T Young take the positions they do? represent the issues as they do? in the interests of parasitic private wealth?
All the while we are distracted our hard won freedoms are eroded and the dead hand of authoritarian rule by proxy via a captured political party (the Tory party) continues unchallenged.
POLICE, CRIME, SENTENCING AND COURTS BILL.
Under-resourced? Just how many Diversity and Art Therapists do they need to make patients better? How many managers? It’s wrongly resourced and hopelessly structured.
And that art doesn’t purchase itself.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cashpoor-nhs-spends-millions-on-art-despite-cuts-that-led-to-thousands-of-job-losses-9005439.html
cheap and banal
It ill behoves you to be so self critical; but nevertheless, treatment for chronic self loathing is available at your local NHS service point.
all systems without motivation (i.e. customer choice) are crap.
NHS should be binned not bail out it’s failure .
The important thing is to have more untreated illness – that way you get more funding.
It’s not under-resourced.
It’s over-resourced.
It’s just been less grossly over-resourced recently than previously.
… so you’ll obviously be quoting comparative European figures for various aspects of resource – like bed numbers, doctors per citizen etc.?
Under resourced, the NHS, you’re having a laugh. It is failing because the resources it is given are mis-directed to areas of clinical irrelevance by an incompetent management structure. The sign of good management, often seen in the private sector, is the ability to do well with limited resources.
I bet you were a roaring success as an ACAS mediator.
I notice that you dodged the issue of why it took a decade of over-investment (as opposed to previous decades over massive over-investment) to result in a sudden spike of non-coof deaths this year.
A non-stupid bigly brain like yourself should find that easy to answer, surely?
SAD
Your attempt to to make this connection is risible. If the resources were directed to the areas where they could make a difference; e.g. clinicians and equipment you might have a point. But as they are directed to more and more Directors of Diversity and extra Equality Officers on vastly inflated remuneration you don’t.
Precisely so
So, do tell me when last throwing extra money at the NHS produced tangible results? It’s not lack of money, it’s the structure is the problem – a Socialist style command and control bureaucracy of 1.4 million people WILL NEVER FUNCTION. However much money you throw at it. 40% of public spending now I think?
But now the NHS is a sacred cult, any suggestion that we might move to an insurance based system as in many European countries, with far better outcomes, is treated as heresy,
Suck it up.
Our answer. Don’t get sick. Don’t eat shit (i.e. p’much anything processed and with a barcode).
Oh dear…
but they need more money. How else will they pay for new diversity officers?
“now the NHS is a sacred cult”
… so a bit like the privateers who have fucked it up and are the friends of the government hiding here.
The time for party-political point scoring has long gone. Do you really think it makes a difference whether the red team or the blue team is in power? Would a labour government mean we wouldn’t have lockdowns, vaccinated children, and all these other obviously insane policies that, coincidentally, Western governments the world over have all adopted (regardless of whether they had a red or blue government)?
No I don’t think and haven’t said that. What IS clear from the facts as well as well researched academic research is that the health system in this country has been deliberately and chronically under-resourced by the tories. It does not have the resource to cope with “normal” winter pressures. Let alone novel extra health challenges. T Young and his ilk correctly identify this weakness as a once in a lifetime opportunity to fatally wound the reality of a public health service free at the point of use. The money to be made from privatizing health delivery is vast and guaranteed. Follow the money and you explain the prejudiced (opposite of sceptic) narrative on this septic page.
It isn’t under-resourced, it’s over-burdened. Until they stop allowing endless non tax-paying scroungers into the country, then that trend cannot be reversed.
You cannot simply keep raising taxes to throw more and more cash at services, there comes a point where it’s not worth working in the UK and the whole system will collapse.
what about the parasitic non-tax paying politically corrupting rich and powerful.. do they get a free pass from bleating racists?
Hopefully this will help you understand the tax system in the UK:
10 men in a bar decide to settle their £100 weekly beer bill in roughly the same way as we pay our taxes:
– so the first four men, the poorest, paid nothing
– the fifth paid £1
– the sixth paid £3
– the seventh paid £7
– the eighth paid £12
– the ninth paid £18 and
– the tenth man, the richest, paid £59
Then the barman decided to give them a £20 discount for being such good customers. The group wanted to continue to pay the new £80 bill the same way as before. While the first four men still drank for free, the other six divided up the £20 windfall by following the progressive principle of our tax system:
– so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing – a saving of 100%
– the sixth paid £2 instead of £3 – a saving of 33%
– the seventh paid £5 instead of £7 – a saving of 29%
– the eighth paid £9 instead of £12 – a saving of 25%
– the ninth paid £14 instead of £18 – a saving of 22% and
– the tenth paid £49 instead of £59 – a saving of 17%
The men then began to compare their savings. “I only got £1 out of the £20” declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, “but he got £10; the wealthy get all the breaks!” “wait a minute“ said the first four men, “we didn’t get anything at all. This new system exploits the poor.” So the other nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up. The next week he didn’t show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when they came to pay, they discovered they didn’t have enough money between them to pay even half the bill.
If you don’t understand then no explanation is possible. If you do understand then no explanation is necessary.
Is your entire intellect cut and pasted from Gammon weekly?
Whether you’re right or wrong, it’s hard to care much anymore. Obviously the NHS is badly managed/underfunded/whatever and ‘the tories’ are on the take and doing grubby deals – what’s new? I’m far more worried about the authoritarian restrictions encroaching on every aspect of my life: The normalisation of rules telling me who I can and can’t see and mandating that I put experimental chemicals in my body for a virus I’ve already recovered from.
I’d much rather be a free man in a free country with no NHS than be some slave in a totalitarian social credit soy state with a well-funded NHS and mandatory ‘jabs’ every 6 months.
xf – I totally agree with you.
“it’s hard to care much anymore” represents true victory for T Young and his ilk. Job done.
I am a libertarian (in the true sense, not the corruption of the term started in the US by Murray Rothbard).
While client hacks like Young spew their faux-libertarian chaff.
The MOST SERIOUS threat to our freedoms go unremarked on by them. The CHIS bill has already gone through.
This corrupt tory govt’s POLICE CRIME SENTENCING AND COURTS BILL. is the latest affront to freedom. Why isnt that front and centre on a site that purports to support free speech?
p.s. Why insist on setting up a false choice? cheap rhetoric that.
Is this the part where you start howling about Magna Carta, and not standing-under Admiralty laws in their dock because you are not a ship?
you are SAD, many, many people are saying it
I think the point of the article is that there seems to be a “novel extra health challenge” that is not covid. Which could well a combination of the various effects of lockdown and the distortion of the health service in the insane focus on covid.
It’s been over resourced by the Tories. You’ll notice which side of the axis your graph is on, yes?
Our NHS is still employing Diversity Grifters and buying up artworks.
The problem isn’t the budget.
There two very good reasons why Blair and Brown spent more on the NHS.
> They had full coffers after 18yrs of sensible Tory fiscal policies.
> They carried out a very large proportion of the spending on tick – PFI – which did manifested itself on the accounts as ’spending’ NOT ‘borrowing’.
Labour’s ‘increased’ spending was an illusion. In fact, with PFI, Labour began the ‘privatisation of the NHS’.
All about money is it – then lets throw a shed load more at this “Wall” of top down serial management ineptitude – hands on ,medics and others excepted. Problem is, money HAS been thrown at it – for decades – and that has not exactly worked, has it?
No coincidence your digital avatar is “SS”; you would be a perfect fit into their “weltanschauung”; they had a workable solution to health care provision – pretty final too.
No surprise, but last year was so much worse.
Our local hospital in chesterfield was practically shut for months while the NHS staff enjoyed discounted takeaway deliveries who my family help supply for their support in those “empty”… I meant “difficult” summer months.
Locking down overburdened NHS kills…
Toby Young’s fantasy cosplay fetish
I think we have a 77 wannabee here.
I think you’re right. Having engaged with him twice I am going to ignore him from now on. He’s only here to disrupt.
Definitely. And not exactly in the upper echelons in terms of intelligence.
We had a troll on here with a similar MO earlier in the year. I can’t remember their name but they would repeatedly post up a chart which was largely irrelevant to the topic under discussion and then resort to ad hominem attacks as soon as someone argued back. And generally be all over the comments like a rash, disrupting the flow of conversation, probably deliberately.
Maybe it’s the same person under a different moniker.
Insult to Douglas Adams realarthurdent attempts to cancel opinions and facts he is unable to refute. Definitely Vogon – “not actually evil, but bad-tempered, bureaucratic, officious and callous”
what you sayin squealer? thats art that is
LOL! only if your definition of “engaged” means regurgitating verbose nonsense and ignoring the facts. Read this before you pretend to be a sceptic again http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/lehre/pmo/eng/Sagan-Baloney.pdf
xx
A snowflake, with prose worser than a Vogon
I think Fatcha snatched his milk and he’s never gotten over it.
Still stuck arguing party politics? What a numpty.
What a shame, the herd appears to have ignored the data
or you don’t understand information.
You… uh… you can see which side of the 0 axis those data are on, right?
“0 axis” the septic hard of thinking have come out play.
Maths not your strong point, right?
https://www.dummies.com/education/math/
Hey scumbag, its not about tory or labour, the scam has been perpertrated by all of our political class while they filled their boots up.
hey Benny – agreed its not – but its the tory scum and those they represent who have cleaned up.
Notwithstanding the failings within the NHS how many of these deaths are really down to the injections?
Heart attacks, strokes, cancers, dementia and so on could all have been brought on by the so-called vaccines.
We buried a friend of mine last week who died less than 24 hours after being injected with the “booster.”
No post mortem the coroner put the death down to “complications arising from a previous bout of pneumonia.” Of course the coroner did not follow this up as in why was he “boosted” if he was at risk from a previous infection?
So I suspect the increase in mortality is simply stage one of the depopulation story and it will only get worse.
May I ask how old your friend was?
My pal was 66 and still working part-time.
Cheers HP…….condolences.
I’m willing to wager that he would still be here if he had remained unjabbed.
I am bloody certain he would still be with us.
RIP.
So sad and such a cold society we are becoming. I’m sure all the fake emotion constantly spewed out is in lieu of real and appropriate human feeling.
Thank you D L.
HP, thank you for bringing some sanity here, my condolences to those already offered.
Questions for Herr SS Meister;
Which European health care system uses the NHS model?
Which European countries health care services have you experienced/benefitted from, and;
Which of those experiences/benefits were delivered by the tax payers of that country, or another funding system?
Lets read your real world information, it might be enlightening, rather than “the other stuff”.
Re: PFI; I reckon that was a Tory invention but “perfected and ramped up” massively by Blair, Darling and Brown – glossing over the very long term financial implications of the “subsidised” tax payers financing of the loans. It would be very interesting to see which individuals enriched themselves with these PFI deals by selling their contracts to others ( sounded like “privatisation” to me at the time, still does ).
Hmmmm – what price the jabbing has brought this on? My own experience – my octogenarian father was very poorly for 2 months – tells me it is.
In 2021, all-cause mortality – ENG & WAL – will likely nearly match 2020.
Whilst we know that 2020 itself did not see inordinate numbers of people dying relative to the period 1976 to 2006……we also know that 2020 was 15% higher than the average for the 2010s.
So if 2020 was a ‘bad year’ because of Covid…..howcome 2021 – ‘the year of the miracle jab’ – is just as bad? Wasn’t the jab supposed to save us? In fact it seems to be doing the very opposite.
Howcome January 2021 saw 29% more deaths than the 10yr average?
Howcome February 2021 saw 27% more deaths than the 10yr average?
Howcome July 2021 saw 23% more deaths than the 10yr average?
Howcome September 2021 saw 10% more deaths than the 10yr average?
Howcome October 2021 saw 27% more deaths than the 10yr average?
[ N.B. April and August 2021 = average……March, June, August = 5-10% below average]
That’s very clear, thank you. It’s also disturbing.
Very strange indeed, if July was high and June and August were low.
The excess deaths were potentially reversible?
A miracle! A miracle!
Yes, Annie, I found that a curious way to put it! Sounds as if potentially people could be raised from the dead.
I think Prof Heneghan may have been misreported in saying he suspected ‘many of the excess deaths were potentially reversible’. Examples of reversible deaths are few – Lazarus and our Lord himself spring to mind but neither of these would be likely to be believed by an expert in ‘evidence-based medicine’ . Perhaps he really said ‘potentially avoidable’?
Death is very rare. If it happens to you, it will be somebody else’s fault and you may be entitled to compensation. Contact Satanic Solicitors now on HELL 666.
Notice how many people get tested for COVID after their death in hospital? In the Telegraph’s Letters Page, several readers regularly show this still happens.
Considering that MHRA have admitted that only 10% of adverse reactions/deaths get reported and we’re currently running at 1760 odd, I suspect we already know what has caused these 10,000.
The precise number of ‘excess’ deaths is a finger-in-the-air calculation, because of the useless baseline used for context. The flaw cuts both ways.
But – undoubtedly, there is a knock-on from the disastrous handling of the non-pandemic. It really couldn’t be otherwise.
But Heneghan has been warning of this for ages. Will he be taken notice of by a government whose prime objective is to sack unjabbed staff and continue to stimulate brainless panic?
The NHS and private health care are both run by human beings, so without accountability will both fail in many ways. As an ex nurse I’m aware of the dangers of lionising the public sector. But I can also see how a system driven by profit, (whilst this creates new products and services) is ultimately going to behave like Big Pharma and all the profit making contracts that have greatly benefited from the political choices made in the last 18 months. The bottom line outside of the public sector will always be profit and nothing else.
PS. Hubby (double vaxxed) has been in bed with COVID for the last 7 days whilst the other 4 of us (the Great Unvaxxed) haven’t been touched by it!
I am trying very very hard to get excited about this, but am failing. I look at the graphs from ONS data and then take a quick look at the EUROMOMO graphs using the same raw data for the same period. I am the first to admit that the Z-charts on EUROMOMO are an ‘acquired taste’, but generally speaking they are useful for showing major changes from trends. I can’t see one. I realise these do not distinguish between covid and non-covid.
I am not diminishing the common sense possibility that a health service that has been turned into a covid service will not underperform. But I don’t see any more effect in England than in most European countries that all have differing health systems and funding mechanisms.
Have we all got a little paranoid about illnesses and death over the last 2 years, pouring over numbers that may just go up and down because of any number of reasons.
Perhaps the only conclusion born out by the data is that under resourced health systems (both pro-active and re-active) in “developed countries” are likely to fail when put under stress. Duh.
Over analysis of the available data in an attempt to find signals that support pre-existing views appears common currency here. The very opposite of scepticism.
“a little paranoid” doesn’t really capture the zeitgeist here, what is your agenda?
If you mean by under resourced, lacking sufficient numbers of beds, nurses, doctors and other front line staff , I agree totally. Its certainly a European-wide problem. Terrible allocation of resources might be more accurate. Too many over paid pen pushers and lack of carers. Also allocation of bloated budgets towards ‘sexy’ interventions, not enough on basic good health treatments for ‘common’ ailments. This has been highlighted in the covid debacle with financial incentives to have covid ICU patients which have inflated numbers and decreased available resources to those really in need. But it has been going on for years.
My personal ‘agenda’ for using this site is two fold. Firstly to pick up links and news to further my knowledge of what is actually happening. With some great exceptions most of that is BTL. And secondly to try to influence thinking to see beyond the immediate stories and think about the evil behind the controlling influences of our world.
This site is now one of very few that allows you to converse with fellow travellers openly. There were quite a few in the early covid days but most have suffered from exhaustion and of course the endless pressure.
yes, that’s exactly what I mean by under resourced. I agree that the contemporary allocation of resources has been perverse to say the least. I would argue that this has resulted from perverse incentives having been imposed by politicians – political dogma prioritized over function – each attempt to impose some artificial system of “market forces” adding yet another layer of expensive, non-functional bureaucracy.
Given the massive incentive provided by the huge potential profits to be made from health care, in a developed economy with relatively large amounts of private wealth. And the funding of the tory party by those with interests in this exact sector – I say that the facts also support the long term aim of sabotaging our current health system. Crudely put: reduce service to a state that no one values then flog it off.
The latest challenge (covid) is – for those so motivated – a shock to be taken full advantage of. Hence the narrative of T. Young and his ilk.
On the matter of the increase in demand posed by the reduction in “public health” standards over the last few decades (incl a modern diet of food harmful to health) we hear little or nothing. But it is certainly significant and, like pollution, a perfect example of the hidden costs of private profit being passed on to wider society (as a tax).
You talk of “evil behind the controlling influences of our world” what do you mean?
Agree about diet. Corn syrup used extensively etc. People are being encouraged to get ill so pharma can make more money. Last 50 years its become increasingly worse.
I mean the ‘federation’ of governments, corporates, investment houses ( ie BlackRock) and individidual/family trust funds directed through BIS, working for themselves to ‘rescue’ the financial system from collapse by financialisation of everything including human cattle. Global fascism. They are using the covid and ‘climate change’ issues to create economic disruption to further the creation of a new $4000trilion financial market paradigm that includes all assets natural or otherwise.
there is certainly a worrying trend in “financialization” – I think its a system thing not a deliberate thing – perverse incentives and all that – hoping so anyway
I wonder what it could be? Were blood clots & heart stoppage symptoms?
Convid jabs are the leading cause of coincidences and mysterious, totally unexplained deaths after short illnesses worldwide.
Professor Bhakdi has explained a theoretical possibility that the vaccine may move from the muscle to the lymph nodes and from there to blood vessel walls. Here it could provoke a T cell response which can result in thrombosis.
Between March and August, about 85% of the adult population in England and Wales had received at least one dose of a vaccine. Since the beginning of August, the ONS claims there have been a worrying number of weekly deaths above the pre-pandemic five-year average. Dr Teck Khong argues some of these deaths are due to disease which could result from such a thrombosis.
Importantly no such untoward effects were reported in the vaccine studies. But last Friday, in an article published in the BMJ, Paul Thacker set out severe concerns about the conduct of an influential vaccine trial in Texas and the quality of the side effect reporting. There has been almost no comment about this article in mainstream media.
Last week at a public meeting arranged by Senator Ron Johnson, Dr Peter Doshi, a deputy editor of the BMJ, questioned whether these American studies show that vaccines reduce all-cause mortality. The YouTube video of this meeting has been taken down.
At the same meeting, the athlete Kyle Warner talked about the life-threatening vaccine-induced complications he believes he has suffered. He is convinced that investigators failed to publish details of severe side effects which occurred during the trials.
There is no question that the gene therapy injections and lockdowns are responsible for the excess deaths. From this point, it’s just a game where corrupt, murderous governors try and cover their arses from prosecution. They do this with lies, smears propaganda, creating scapegoats and finally, drum roll please, cascading into ab even larger crisis for maximum distracting effect. I expect this new crisis to be either the collapse of fiat currency or war with China or both.
This article contains no reference to how the jabs could be causing these deaths. Pure agenda driven shite. Lets write an article with an obvious conclusion, but we wont make that conclusion, or even mention it as a possibility, because ……. just because OK!!!
They test for the flu since they’ve never isolated Covid-19. Which makes me wonder how they can tell there is a delta variant. They never isolated the virus but they use a test to show the damage of a solution does on monkey kidney cells then show the cellular debris as proof of the virus. So, they can use this method to claim an UNENDING! amount of variants. A lot of cancers and “viruses” are probably just different forms of parasites. Since the tests can’t differentiate between cold and flu and covid then doesn’t that mean ivermectin cures both the cold and the flu? Welcome to “they’ve been lying to us our entire lives about everything”. Get your Ivermectin while you still can! https://ivmpharmacy.com
I warned them in March 2020!
I have a lot of respect for Carl Heneghan but ‘potentially reversible’ is possibly not the best phrase to use.
I take this to mean that the cause of death in the instances he cites was “potentially reversible”, possibly indicating that different treatment regimes or interventions should/could have made a vital difference
There does seem to be something strange going on in terms of excess death in the ONS data – and there’s a definite pattern. If you look at the data in terms of percentage excess the trends become quite clear.
I’ve taken the usual simplistic approach to this here
Time for a 2nd Round – by Rudolph Rigger – Riggery Pokery (substack.com)
Of course all the usual caveats about using a 1st order estimate of excess apply (using historical 5 year mean) but we do need to attempt to understand what’s happening. I don’t think any firm conclusions about causality can be drawn. The excess might be driven by the deranged response to covid and the covidization of our heath service. Or it might be driven by vaccination adverse effects. Or a combination – or some other factors too.
What I’m not seeing in the overall ONS data at least is really clear evidence of vaccine safety and efficacy. What we’ve done seems to be starting to make things worse overall. Even if the vaccines have saved some from covid – overall we’ve buggered things up.
It’s like the dentist who says: good news, we’ve saved your teeth – unfortunately the procedure completely destroyed your gums.
Well vaccine deaths obviously! And maybe a few stay at home NHS won’t treat you backlog deaths. The plan is starting to work.
Nothing about the ‘vaccine’ rollout coinciding with an ‘unexpected’ increase in deaths in many countries worldwide?
The next theory to be ratified perhaps? The full length spike protein can enter its human cell host causing DNA repair malfunction….leading to cancers….oh dear!. Is this what is meant by “there is no long term safety data”?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Unt03UBhbU
If this were just down to ‘access to the NHS’, wouldn’t you expect the deaths to be evenly spread?
I’ve been tracking the ONS data (along the same lines as RudolfRigger below) for 45-64 year olds (the narrowest age band you can get in the 2015-19 data) which shows we had a relatively normal level of deaths April/May/June 2021 compared to the 2015-19 average.
Then (on a 4-week rolling average) we were up 13% in July, 18% in August, 19% in Sept and 22% in Oct.
The most obvious conclusion is that this is linked to the broadening vaccine roll-out among that age band over that period.
Stats from here on, of course, will be confounded by those that succumb to the boosters.