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Women Warned Working From Home May Harm Careers

by Toby Young
12 November 2021 12:50 PM

Women who work from home risk seeing their careers stall now that workers are returning to the office, according to Bank of England (BoE) economist Catherine Mann. BBC News has more.

She said office interaction was vital to advance in companies, but many women were still tied to home working.

Ms. Mann said it was a particular issue for mothers facing school disruptions and difficulty accessing childcare.

Earlier this year, Rishi Sunak warned about young people’s careers.

The Chancellor said he doubted his banking career would have been successful if he had started it in virtual meetings, and that being in the office helped build skills.

Ms Mann, a member of the BoE’s Monetary Policy Committee that sets interest rates, said online communication was unable to replicate the spontaneous office conversations that were important for recognition and advancement in many workplaces.

She told an event hosted by Financial News magazine: “Virtual platforms are way better than they were even five years ago. But the extemporaneous, spontaneity – those are hard to replicate in a virtual setting.”

Difficulty accessing childcare and pandemic-related disruption to schooling meant many women were continuing to work from home, while it had been easier for men to return to the office.

“There is the potential for two tracks”, she said. “There’s the people who are on the virtual track and people who are on a physical track. And I do worry that we will see those two tracks develop, and we will pretty much know who’s going to be on which track, unfortunately”, she said.

Ms Mann was an economics professor and chief economist at investment bank Citi and the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, before joining the BoE in September.

Worth reading in full.

Tags: Career WomenWorking From HomeZoom

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mishmash
mishmash
3 years ago

Don’t worry about it, you won’t have a career in the New World Order.

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Dame Lynet
Dame Lynet
3 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

It’s risible. You can’t watch the dismantling of the societies that led to such things as careers and then expect things to just carry on as normal.

Some must expect just that and when they realise it will be too late…

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

In a previous life Toby was a deckchair arranger on the Titanic.

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Noumenon
Noumenon
3 years ago

Woke policies harm gender parity. No surprise there then.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago

Careers are a thing in the modern world?

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago

Why do they have to make everything about gender? The problems with ‘work from home’ will affect everyone, and certainly in my field I’ve not seen blokes as any more or less likely to go back to the office earlier than women.

The issue of childcare only really arose when everyone was told to work from home anyway, and it’s clear that a lot of women (and blokes too) were taking the piss – allegedly working (and getting paid), but actually having to look after small children which severely limited the amount of work they could do. I’m sure I’m not the only one who got right irritated with Teams meetings where some of the attendees would have their kids screaming and running round in the background.

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maggie may
maggie may
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

It’s not just children that are the problem for women, i have heard that they are (sweeping generalisation coming up!) more anxious about ‘feeling safe’ in the workplace than the men. Don’t know if anyone has seen that? Obviously doesn’t apply to those who have worked throughout in supermarkets etc.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  maggie may

No. Some of the biggest bedwetters are men. It’s equally split. And my (male) boss is always wfh for covid related reasons (“I was in contact with someone whose aunt’s cat’s brother in law had covid, so I am going to isolate, despite being double vaxxed up the yingyang and wearing a mask 24/7” type of thing,

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

While I agree that there are plenty of male bedwetters, my experience is that, broadly, the most extreme Covidians of all tend to be women in their 30s – no idea why this should be, but it does seem to be the case – they are the ones most likely to get abusive towards anyone not ‘following the rules’.

Despite that, blokes seem no more keen to get back to the office though!

Last edited 3 years ago by CynicalRealist
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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Perhaps it’s merely more unexpected, contemptible, and therefore remarkable in men?

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Maybe, but not by me. Men can be just as illogical as women, in my experience. But then I have rather Spock like tendencies for a woman, and tend to gravitate to female friends who are similar.

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

What’s “gender”?

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

A social construct formerly based on biological sex, but who knows what is is now…

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Home is home, the office is the office.

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HumanRightsForever
HumanRightsForever
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

“Taking the piss?” Are you possibly aware that people didn’t have access to the childcare for about a year or so? What do you think we were supposed to do? Leave the job? And who do you think was to leave?…..Are you getting the problem now? It’s mostly mums who had to either juggle “screaming kids” during meetings while their colleagues were “irritated” or leave jobs to do childcare full time. Imagine that lockdown happened also to single parents, or people with less than middle class jobs, what they were supposed to do? Well, some of them simply got fired. Anyway, how do you go out for all day job out of home without childcare? Even so called essential workers didn’t get access to it in many cases, I know of a few examples at least (midwife, oil industry guy, etc., teachers). Why do you think child abuse skyrocketed? Apparently, not everyone managed the situation with your inner poise. I understand that you might have different life, but a little bit of respect for other people real life problems, please.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  HumanRightsForever

That’s what the furlough scheme was for (well, one of the things) – people should not have been ‘at work’ and getting paid for such if they were unable to actually do what they were supposed to be doing.

Or in jobs where specific working times weren’t necessary, they could have worked evenings / weekends if there was a partner available to look after kids then – but most didn’t want to do that, hence the problem.

Last edited 3 years ago by CynicalRealist
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gone_loopy
gone_loopy
3 years ago
Reply to  HumanRightsForever

These wfh types get a bit sensitive when its implied that they’ve been swinging the lead!

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Anti_socialist
Anti_socialist
3 years ago

Exclusively a middle class liberal problem, do I care?

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Oh dear, what a shame, what a pity, never mind.

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Sceptical Steve
Sceptical Steve
3 years ago

I’m pretty sure it’s only been about 4 weeks since a senior female Treasury civil servant was quoted as welcoming the use of virtual meetings, on the basis that female staff might be intimidated by the presence of “alpha males” when attending physical meetings, and not feel able to contribute. Virtual meetings were then being welcomed as a means of minimising that particlar problem.

I guess we must just view WFH as a just another experiment foisted on us by the behavioural scientists that has resulted in unwelcome unforseen consequences.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Sceptical Steve

How casually sexist.

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Star
Star
3 years ago
Reply to  Sceptical Steve

There was and still is huge overemployment in the white-collar sector.

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miketa1957
miketa1957
3 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w&t=58s

Women! Know your limits!

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago

People who show up and do more work will get promoted based on merit?

Injustice! Outrage! (and so on, and so forth).

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hurleyp
hurleyp
3 years ago

I think being reduced to a resource at one end of an Internet connection would be an issue for anyone hoping to advance their career.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  hurleyp

It does very much beg the question of why you don’t give the work to an Indian woman in India rather than an Indian women in Bethnal Green.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

looks like an article got pulled above!

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

and re-done with corrected headline (but comments dropped).

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HumanRightsForever
HumanRightsForever
3 years ago

While in other European countries parents who took care of children due to lack of regular childcare got varied (and far from perfect) support, like even symbolic benefits for those who stayed at home with children, British press was advising parents how not to get fired while at the same time working from home, thus being less productive, and taking care of children. …The level of the society is being recognised by attitude to the vulnerable and parents who take care of children are definitely the vulnerable – more so than for example single professionals. The conclusion is for everyone to draw themselves. But abusing women because of being mothers is old like capitalism, so what more needs to be written..

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  HumanRightsForever

drivel.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago

This has probably got more to do with bringing in workplace “vaccines” than anything to do with the progression of a woman’s career; a useful way of turning the screw on those still avoiding the clot shots.

Of course it also provides a sheen of normality where none truly exists.

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clem
clem
3 years ago

It’s a little misandrist to assume it’s only working mothers that would be inconvenienced by school distruptions.
I take and pick-up my daughter from school half the week, my wife the other.
When there’s disruption sometimes it’s me that’ll deal with it, sometimes her depending on what our work commitments are at the time.

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