Pathologist and Chair of expert group HART Dr Clare Craig appeared on GB News this morning to explain why she does not support mandatory vaccination for NHS workers.
Watch: Dr Clare Craig on GB News on Why Mandatory Vaccination of NHS Staff is Wrong
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The fact that the MSM would not do this says enough.
Sadly far too many rely on the BBC/ITV/Sky for their
propagandanews.Wow, really? I missed a trick.
A con trick.
Please enlighten me.
Just why are you on this site?
Wow they actually let her talk without constant interruption, which would never happen on the BBC, amazing! I do feel Dr Clare was being somewhat restrained though. I got the impression she wanted to say more about the staff’s reasons for not getting vaxxed and she didn’t touch on the safety, but I felt she was chomping at the bit to lay in to the shockingly crap safety profile and harms caused by these jabs.
As I said on the video earlier today, you can see she is seething at the stupidity of their questions and the insinuation present in them, her desire to say more is palpable. The fact that you can intuit exactly what she wishes she could say, whilst she avoids being censored speaks to her intelligence.
Part of me thinks it’s frustration, it’s like asking a calculator 1+1, the answers are so obvious to those of us that hang out here, I suspect she resents being asked the same stupid questions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn5SwOZKzl0
I think it was good to see the presenters asking her “MSM-style” questions and then allowing her to demolish them. I think she was being diplomatic in her answers, but I agree with you that she clearly knew exactly why the staff were avoiding vaccinations but had decided not to speak on their behalfs.
A true MSM-style interview would not have allowed her so long to present her case without interruption.
After a detailed explanation of what “vaccination” is not the issue but eradicating the virus in Hospital settings is, Simon McCoy then asked a series of dumb questions, illustrating either his own pro “vaccine” bias or ignorance. What does he not get about jabs not preventing infection…..and that sick people “donate” the virus to other people who might be in hospital because they are sick with other ailments…and that NHS medics may well have their own immunity having contracted CV19, isolated and recovered for whom a jab is ….worthless.
I don’t think SMcC grasped the point about antibody response – extra cellular – and the effect of the jab – intra cellular. Even a thicko non scientist like me understands that if your immune system midfield defenders – antibodies – does not stop SARS COV2 , then the “back four” can then be overwhelmed by the production of the introduction cellular S1 spike protein – which as we all know does the inflammatory clotting damage – so flood the midfield first and then if that does not work, all “10 behind the ball” ; before all of that , take the vitamins and minerals and have Ivermectin/HCQ/Quercertin on the “bench”.
Why is it that Peter McCullough and his peers worldwide attest to the benefit of monoclonal antibody infusion with other drugs as a vital part of early treatment – because ehe/they know CV19 is a multi stage event and drug therapies have to address each stage, preferably not the whole 4 stages of infectious effects. We know – McCoy chooses not to learn all of that….”once a BBC apparatchik, always a BBC apparatchik”.
Excellent Interview, although the deeply covid religious presenters may struggle with such blasphemy. Great the Dr mentioned sanitising the hospital air to neutralise aerosol pathogens, can’t believe hospitals don’t already do this, no brainer really….
My dentist has installed high volume air extraction into all surgeries over a year ago and the staff wear positive pressure suits all the time when working on patients. He and his team have been providing a service (regular checks and emergency treatment) since late summer last year.
This is a small private practice with considerably less resources than the NHS, but it puts its customers first.
Your dentist’s staff wear these?
Please tell me you’re joking.
Well, they are not orange and have a self-contained blower on their backs, but essentially yes. I am grateful because it enabled mt to have a broken tooth fixed during lockdown.
Dr Craig has been a legend throughout.
Totally. Rational, consistent and shows stubborn refusal to conform to the screeches of modern-day flat-earthers. She is a real scientist fighting against “THE science”. I certainly feel exhausted having to relentlessly argue with dimwits (or even worse, midwits) who think they are fully informed from the 6 o’clock news, I can’t imagine how the pressure has been for her.
Dr Clare Craig; One of my top Covid Heroes.
While the MSM condemns the use of ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. In addition to this, Ivermectin attaches to covid spikes and prevents them from binding to ACE2. Get your Ivermectin today while you still can! https://ivmpharmacy.com
Spread this as much as possible.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufy2AweXRkc&t=54s
Dr John Campbell examines the new Pfizer antiviral and how it compares to ivermectin [spoiler alert – comes a poor second, only blocks one route of viral replication compared to ivermectin’s six]
Ahh Pfizermectin lol, the miracle pill, what’s next ‘Modernaprofin’ for the headaches we get listening to their bullshit daily?
it’s patented and therefore rent-seekable so the NHS will use it.
I coming to the conclusion that this pandemic was hyped from the very beginning to make drug companies super rich at our expense. Instead of asking themselves is there any drugs we can use now to treat sick people drug companies together with the MSM and governments rubbished drugs like Ivermectin as it would have ended the pandemic. The governments have continued the pandemic to give drug companies time to develop useless vaccines and now useless drugs. When I say useless I mean in the sense of requiring booster shots for vaccines and other drugs or treatments to treat covid.This means the drug companies will have a ready supply of revenue while the human race will remain unwell for the rest of time or until WE say enough is enough. The interview I watched yesterday about the PCR test shows clearly they want everyone to believe everyone is infected. But anyone with a brain knows that no more than 1% of the population is infected at any one time. But even here the vast majority 97% will have some other respiratory illness such as a cold or flu. Maybe this explains why two comparable people who test positive for covid have differing symptoms while one may have covid the other is most likely to have a cold or flu. In fact I saw an article recently where a scientist re-tested thousands of positive covid tests and discovered everyone had either influenza A or B. So boycott PCR tests, if you must test for work or visiting get a LFT they quicker and accurate. Some people say they not as accurate but that’s because they don’t show up false positives like the PCR tests do. And if you do have a cold or flu stay at home open your windows avoid the news and look after your health.
I’ve been watching Dr Campbell, it’s fascinating seeing his views slowly changing, with 1.27 plus followers on Youtube (and counting) it’s going to get very interesting as more evidence emerges of the lack of jab effectiveness and jab harms:
“Who The Hell Is Dr John Campbell? Part 1”
http://participator.online/articles/2021/11/who_the_hell_is_dr_john_campbell_part_1_20211105.php
Correction that’s 1.29 followers (he’s gone up that much in a few days).
Another heretic pseudo science tin foil hat wearing flat earth believing conspiracy theorist.
She will be cancelled by those who “follow the science” and we will all be saved!
But in all seriousness, I am genuinely surprised that this was broadcast, seems to be more of this happening recently, even quite a few videos on YouTube that only months ago would have been pulled for “medical disinformation”
Remember, it was GBNews, not any of the dinosaurs.
Well yes, but haven’t they had their hand slapped once already? Like talk radio before it, for deviating from the “official narrative”
This Guardian article, currently getting most hits, says what most on here have said for 20 months; and all the experienced experts said for 20 months before they were cancelled.
Why now? What has this suddenly allowed this to be promoted?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/10/people-exposed-to-covid-yet-not-falling-ill-may-have-immune-memory-finds-study
It is there because “this can lead to better vaccines”. It’s The Guardian
I spoke to a care worker today – she was nice enough – her view was that all care staff should get the jab – I usually don’t go there but she seemed open-minded enough so I thought I’d try her out with some of the stuff I knew about why people are not taking up these jab offer – I was surprised really … here was a care worker who honestly thought that the jab would protect her and her patients … she had no idea that the jab does not stop you catching the virus or stop you spreading it – all it does is reduce symptoms should you get the virus – she really thought the jab gave you some kind of immunity, she was also on board with the idea of testing because those without symptoms can spread the virus too – I disagreed and told her why – she listened politely and took on board what I had to say … to cut a long story short at the end of our 10min conversation I think she was changing her tune a bit – expressed some scepticism – not much but a bit – but what amazed me most was this was a qualified care worker who thought the jab actually protected her from infection and transmission – she was as nice as pie and never once got annoyed with my views but she was absolutely sold on everything this government and the msm has told her about covid19 – there wasn’t anything she said that had not come straight out of govenment and msm propaganda machine – I told her to look into it further if she could and I recommended the Daily Sceptic website -she said she would have a look and hopefully she wises up and spreads the word.
I’m not surprised, I think people underestimate how much even medical professionals do not question what is happening.
At the moment hospitals in NL are pleading for new measures as they are overrun (while, understaffed, a fact they admit). The province of Limburg in particular is having a hard time. I don’t doubt what they are saying to be true. Doctors at these hospitals have been asking the government to do whatever it takes to stop infections rising.
Now we are coming up fast to 2 years of this BS. We know that this virus comes in waves, lies low for a few months, builds up to high numbers within a short period of time, hits a peak then drops again, with autumn/winter being a given. We have high PCR numbers right now, but they have clearly stabilised and appear to be flattening, i.e. have hit the peak and will undoubtedly start going down within a few days. Hospital admissions/deaths always trail the peak of infections by several weeks. So any action the government were to take now would have no results for the hospitals pleading for action. They will not change the course (at best no effect, at worst will extend the wave by having groups of people concentrate indoors in homes). The numbers that will be going into hospital over the next few weeks is in essence already set.
In addition, they are pushing unvaxxed to get vaxxed and intend to start handing out boosters as soon as possible. We know that the jab suppresses the immune system and provides no protection (if it even provides any) for a number of weeks – does one have to be Einstein to figure out that jabbing right at the height of the infection wave a) will be of no use in terms of protection and b) will lead to more infections?
Yet this is what medical staff here are screaming for and I do not doubt their sincerety. Merely their ability to use critical thinking.
Most people seem to believe that the vaccines are some sort of Harry Potter magic potion that will take all the nastiness away. I sometimes wonder if they also still believe in the tooth fairy!
One key feature is the strength of confirmation bias and the resolution of cognitive dissonance. Notice how the admitted failure of the snake-oil has been forgotten, given that a year ago it was the cure-all that would vanish all the NPIs.
A lot of people don’t want to know the truth!
My wife is a senior nurse, she knows masks are BS, she knows social distancing is BS, she knows PCR tests are BS, during the first lockdown she was one of only few who didn’t comply, she made her own rules up, she knew the MSM fear porn was BS! She knew the hospitals weren’t & never were overwhelmed, she hates NHS managers with a vengeance.
Silly **** still got vaxxed, she still won’t hear a bad word said about the government narrative, she’s still in total denial. She won’t look at, listen too or read anything I put in front of her that questions the official line, it’s because her denial is her comfort blanket. She doesn’t want to believe what’s happening is happening.
Sounds like fun at your place!
So she is sceptical about the lockdowns and masks and testing, but believes in the injections? This is quite common, I think. Jabs in arms are a routine part of many people’s lives, to the extent that it doesn’t even occur to many that the latest variety might be different. This situation has been built up over many years. But lockdowns etc are all new and have a tangible effect on our lives. A jab is over in a moment and it’s free…
And the denial – yes – too many hopes are placed in vaxcines in general for people to question them. We have a deep seated fear of acute illness and the idea that jabs have saved us from it. Knocking down this world view isn’t an easy task.
The amazing thing is she had a vaccine about 20 years ago, I don’t recall what for maybe it was hepatitis, NHS workers are vaxxed to the eyeballs. Anyway, shortly afterwards she developed severe allergies, hay fever, asthma etc. Despite NEVER having them prior to the vax, & a month or so later a cancer scare, i’m confident it was vaccine induced, but she won’t accept it, although she has no explanation for it. Eventually thankfully all those problems resolved themselves, went away on their own.
Geez, that must have been scary. The campaign to turn vaccination into an ideology or religion has been so successful. I hope she will be okay if she has all the boosters being planned. Sometimes this all comes way to close for comfort.
We spent the evening with friends who are like that. They’ve just had a holiday in France so all is good. Boosters sorted, vaccine passports sorted so it’s onwards and upwards. Masks are just what you do as is “signing” in to pubs. The wife’s brother and his wife have just had Covid despite both being double vaxxed but it would have been worse if they hadn’t been double vaxxed, wouldn’t it? I despair but they despair of me as I haven’t been vaxxed at all.
Whoa!
I had to read your post twice A_s, as there appears to be a complete disconnect between the two paragraphs. I expected the second one to say how difficult it is for your wife as a lockdown sceptic to continue working in a culture that has bought into the official narrative hook, line and sinker. I thought you were going to say she’s being forced out of her job or faces the sack for not towing the line.
On second reading, I understand your point and her position. Very difficult for her and incredibly frustrating for you. May I suggest that you back off completely – don’t try and show her stuff, don’t try and get her to watch videos or read content on here or elsewhere – give her space. Bite your lip. Then, very slowly and very gradually, ask open questions about stuff that you see/hear together. E.g., when Sajit Javid says that the vaccines prevent infections, say something like: ‘didn’t the PM say only last week that they don’t do that?’ Then ask her what she thinks. Facilitate her in answering her own questions – don’t preach to her – you’ll merely drive in the wedge between you further and she’ll just dig in further to her already entrenched position. Remember, from her perspective, you are as entrenched in your views – if not more so – than she is in hers.
I hope you take my comments in the spirit they’re intended – which is to offer something positive. From what you say, it strikes me your relationship could be at risk if the two of you aren’t able to come to some sort of agreement or understanding on this issue. Good luck!
Yes I thought exactly the same! It’s ironic isn’t it? How somebody can be so switched on and sceptical, probably looking at the rationale and evidence ( or lack thereof ) to support the restrictions and PCR tests, but then be totally closed minded and uncritical about the jab, especially given that she is in prime position to see first hand the vaccine injured and those vaxxed but getting severe Covid still, in her hospital setting! Very weird. Secondly, if she’s a senior nurse, she should be on her game regarding the scientific literature, and you do not need a PhD to be able to critique scientific papers, and certainly in her role she should be able to look at the clinical trial data and determine just how underwhelming the results are. It’s all very frustrating and disappointing when people like this who really are in a position to know better buy into the bullshittery instead. Perhaps these are the people in society Derren Brown would deem more “suggestible” to hypnosis and tricks of the mind.
I’ll answer both posts here for what it’s worth, I suspect you’ve moved on.
I don’t push my opinions or content, we get into conversation and one thing leads to the same subject it’s hard to avoided really.
She’s not a general nurse she’s a nurse practitioner & doesn’t work in a medical ward or anything connected to covid, she’s in a specialist dept, she certainly doesn’t work with anything to do with vaccination.
The point I was making was people will choose to ignore what’s happening around them despite knowing what’s happening isn’t right, because the truth is too uncomfortable to acknowledge, like the proverbial ostrich.
“I was surprised really … here was a care worker who honestly thought that the jab would protect her and her patients … she had no idea that the jab does not stop you catching the virus or stop you spreading it”
Your narration is insightful. I fear that too many sceptics simply do not grasp how the psy-op and media control works. It is no good just dismissing this sort of stuff simply as ‘stupidity’, even if it momentarily makes you feel better.
There is no easy solution to this sort of misinformed mindset – as we’ve painfully found out over two years – except to do what you did – engage, not rant.
But it’s a slow job.
You’re correct. What seems blindingly obvious to naturally critical thinkers can completely bypass even very intelligent and educated people. Often they know a lot but don’t think a lot.
Interesting response. I suspect it relates to memory. Mine is awful so I have to work out a lot of answers from first principles or referring back to source; people with good memories remember things they heard once and never get a chance for an update.
Having worked in care for many years I am not in the least surprised – many care workers are merely drones incapable of independent thought, although very good at basic care.
Great interview – I follow Dr Clare Craig on Twitter where she posts some great information and links – all credit to GB news … finally a news channel that lets their guests speak instead of constant interruptions.
Well done Dr Clare Craig and GB News.
Excellent interview with Dr Robert Malone.
Just over an hour long but worth watching if you have an hour to spare …
Dr. Robert Malone: “This is the Largest Experiment Performed on Human Beings in the History of the World.”
https://thenewamerican.com/dr-robert-malone-this-is-the-largest-experiment-performed-on-human-beings-in-the-history-of-the-world/
…
Remember when we were told that these vaccines were safe and effective ..
Notice how Sajid Javid’s whole argument is based on emotions and how Clare Craig is citing facts and trials?
When you have a nudge unit telling you what to say …….
Claire, you probably won’t read this but still, you were excellent.
Oh dear, some people listening were “not happy” (in a funny voice) “about what they’ve just heard”. Some others are very happy indeed! Still, I’m really not sure about a covid vaccine up the nose…
I will end my 10 year career working as a nurse in A&E if it is not scrapped. Let’s turn this around and use their own logic. Should un vaccinated patients be refused entry to hospital or would that be considered unethical?
Isn’t that EXACTLY what is about to happen in Singapore? And probably elsewhere?
It is. The planets leaders are tyrannical. It was a few months ago that people were banging bloody saucepans in awe of superhero front-liners. Now I’m sub human because I will not consent to unlicensed drugs entering my body.
That is the next step. Having 100% triple vaccinated staff in hospitals will, obviously, not do anything. So they will need a new scapegoat. They will deny medical care to unvaccinated people.
How about seperate hospitals for the unvaxxed, with unvaxxed staff.
All routinely taking Zinc High dose Vitamins CD & K etc.
They would be the cheapest hospital in the country, witb probably a the best patient outcomes.
The PTB Would be desperate to avoid the above as even the bought over MSM might eventually notice.
https://thenewamerican.com/dr-robert-malone-this-is-the-largest-experiment-performed-on-human-beings-in-the-history-of-the-world/
Robert Malone has woken up and is telling the truth about the American involvement in biowarfare and the Wuhan lab.
Clare Craig, so calm, rational and refreshing to listen to.
Well said…restrained and well delivered.
Dr Craig was brilliant – very clear and incisive. And, as someone has said below, at least they didn’t keep interrupting her.
The saddest part was the interviewer asking, “If even one patient death is prevented, isn’t the mandate justified?”
Claire avoided the rather obvious reply that if saving that patient costs several patient lives from vaccinated staff falsely believing they’re safe, and several staff lives from myocarditis etc, then no, it isn’t. The fact that any interviewer (even if he were playing devil’s advocate) has no conception whatever of cost/benefit is a sad reflection on our education system.
“Even if it only saves one life, then surely banning all road vehicles must be justified?” Sheesh.
I totally agree; it – thankfully, it demonstrates that to become a TV presenter on news/current affairs, you don’t have to be shiningly bright, exhibit a sharp mind, or be on top of the subject you are “presenting”. This – once more – justifies why I no longer watch MSM
News or Current affairspropoganda agendas.The follow up question was surely to be ..” Wasn’t the point of “vaccination” to save the NHS”
Answer might have been….. ” How come the NHS was effectively destroyed as a functioning system for large parts of 2020/2021 onwards because of the disaster policy of lockdowns – invoked to “save the NHS”…
Education system = indoctrination sessions…..
Simon McCoy once again demonstrating that he is an asshole by shilling for the government and the NHS narrative, as he used to do in the BBC
Brilliant performance. And how funny and satisfying to see and hear that she really got under the clueless talking heads skin.
Thank you Dr Clare for your valiant efforts on our behalf.
Simon McCoy, what a brain dead moron. Surely saving one life matters he said. Ok Simon, so you make over 100,000 redundant which then effects their families etc, so in effect you are probably effecting half a million people as a result of this madness. Many who may top themselves s a result of seeing no future. All this, just to save one life. Simon you are a utter f@cking horror of a human being.
Oh, my wife is one of these, 26 years being a prescribing pharmacist . Taken away by a cabal of criminals. She will walk rather than take the poison. She’d rather be poorer than dead.
But, if un jabbed NHS staff are killing patients as Javid would like us to believe. Why wait until next April? Surely the un jabbed will kill hundreds in the next five months!! What a caaannnt he is!
Hold the line people.
GBN is controlled opposition, just there to stop the kettle boiling over.
All Dr Clare needed to say to these clowns – the jabs don’t stop transmission (PCR positives) so why would you support a mandate that wouldn’t just put more strain on the NHS, but would irreversibly cripple it for everyone needing future medical attention, not just those “with covid”.
Oh and infection rates among the jabbed are more than double, so the more unvaccinated NHS staff there are, the safer patients in hospital will be statistically.
Yeah, I was horrified when they said Andrew Neil (Uber liberal) was producing his own news channel, thankfully it wasn’t so.
I just don’t do MSM really, I only visit the DM because it’s a one stop shop to review the enemies lies & propaganda.
why now though? These people have worked all the way through whatever it was with no problem, but now hospitalisations and deaths are low it’s imperative they get vaxed?
it’s inevitable that any front line health worker has come into contact with whatever it is by now so no doubt have built up immunity. If they get vaxed by the deadline of April that’s just in time for their vaccine “protection” to run out in time for the next round of seasonal respiratory viruses. I don’t understand their own logic on this
There’s no logic except power and profit. It’s just the slow process of the state steam roller. Other state employees come next.
It’s not about health it’s the only way they can attempt to force ID, ditto control