First year students at Bath are being given wristbands by university authorities to signal whether they’ve been double-jabbed amid anger at emerging “two-tier” university campuses. The Telegraph has more.
Students arriving this week at the University of Bath have been given a different coloured wristband on club nights if they can prove in advance they are double jabbed, or have COVID-19 immunity.
COVID-19 passports are required for nightclub or arena events in Bath students’ union, but those who can only show a negative lateral flow test enter through a different queue.
Parents expressed alarm at “vaccine passports by stealth” as millions of students return for the first Freshers’ Week in two years, despite the Government ditching plans for the certificates for venues in England.
At Sheffield University, students must present a COVID-19 pass to enter freshers events or union nights out, with double-jabbed students and those with negative tests offered separate wristbands to jump queues.
Meanwhile, Cambridge University and two Oxford colleges have asked students to disclose their Covid vaccination status to staff.
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Why aren’t these students standing up to this shit in significant numbers? It’s basically overt coercion to try to push people into getting spiked.
It’s hard for them as they are young, they want to fit in, many are away from home for the first time and so on. Plus they are up against the full propaganda machine which has many hoodwinked into thinking anybody who does not take the vaccine is the devil incarnate..
All that is true, but at that age they should be thinking for themselves – in the past students have been noted for standing up to the establishment.
Not this generation, if they’ve got any strong political beliefs it’ll be about trans rights, a poorly defined understanding of racism, a poorly defined understanding of feminism, and climate change. We’re doomed!
Not all are like that. Having heard about Uni of Kent’s compulsory diversity course my son says he’d had left rather than complete “that crock of sh**”. Thankfully he left already to do an apprenticeship in Nuclear engineering.
He was previously at Kent studying Physics, he got fed up of the lack of actual teaching (even before Kung Flu) and the ‘diversity, ‘inclusion’ and whatever else being constantly pushed at them. His fellow students were largely unfriendly or withdrawn and he became very lonely.
He’s now at a college in Somerset with his colleague (who’s middle eastern) & diversity hasn’t been mentioned once. The students are happier, friendly and they are all getting along and learning.
Hopefully more young adults will move away from Uni and they will go bankrupt.
I do think we’ve reached Peak University, or we should have. In the last few years, provincial universities have been renting offices as campuses in expensive parts of London.
The only reason students have stood up to the establishment in the past is because they were being manipulated into it. As cliche as it may sound, communist manipulation of the universities has been going on for ages. Greenpeace, for example, was founded by militant communists, and it has been a popular choice for student activists.
So you see, even when they appear to be thinking for themselves, fighting against the establishment, they’re doing so because someone told them to. And now that the people who told them to protest have themselves become the establishment, it is to be expected that students are protesting for the establishment, not against it.
“communist manipulation of the universities has been going on for ages.”
What utter brain-dead twaddle. Definitely worthy of the 77th brigade medal of honour for paranoid psychosis.
I suggest you go and talk with the average university professor, especially in the humanities. Most of them are socialists or communists. It has become commonplace to have far left propaganda as course material. You are living in the past.
I can confirm from my present day experience in Germany – in the canteen (before it was closed) you could find many leaflets for various “left” events. Mostly invited talks and night clubs, but also a local gay sauna club/sex meet for aspiring freshmen.
No flyers for the non-gay university-run sauna were ever distributed. In fact this fine establishment was shut down – to help competition? A long time before COVID, but tellingly they started by quoting “hygiene reasons” – a cold water dipping vat which had been used by visitors without any problem for decades was suddenly deemed “unhygienic” (I suspect they really wanted to save on water, maybe to appear more eco-friendly). Then there was an “accident” with a pipe break, from which it never recovered (“not enough funds in budget”). I guess you could now go to the gay sauna instead. Or to a sponsored communist lecture (all required funds available).
Anyone even wearing the wrong kind of clothes (brands associated with right wingers) would be harassed by ultraleft groups or banned from the campus outright (“house rules”).
Students were rallied to support a professor who got in trouble with the university for being TOO left (literally spreading Marxist propaganda in his lectures). Obviously, similar support for any “right” professor would be unthinkable.
Gender studies prominently established and marketed.
Etc. etc.
No I’m not – I’m in constant contact – and that’s sheer bollocks – unless ‘communist’ becomes a politically illiterate label for anything left of Genghiz Khan.
You are entitled to any political beliefs you want to hold – but don’t paint the world with your barmily eccentric (root meaning) palette.
Students learn in school about how evil capitalism is. About diversity and inclusion. About social justice. About the wonders of socialism. Women studies is a thing. Individual pronouns is a thing. Universities are racially profiling their students in order to meet racial quotas. If you think that is in any way ideologically centred, you are dreaming.
And as proof, name one thing students have protested for that isn’t left wing. There are students right now protesting against the Western world because of climate change. That is a historically leftist position. Just a short time ago, students were protesting for BLM, a Marxist organization. A little while before that, students were protesting against Brexit, another leftist cause. And even before that, students were protesting for uncontrolled migration, another leftist ideal. So name a centrist or right wing cause students have been protesting for.
“Students learn in school about how evil capitalism is”
Straight away, you confirm my point. They don’t.
“A little while before that, students were protesting against Brexit, another leftist cause.”
… followed by yet another bit of nonsense. Brexit was not a left/right division – it was generational, because younger people didn’t have the hangups of the delusional who thought it other than an irrelevant distraction (as proved now). And in the referendum period, a large segment of the ‘left’ was as much in favour as was the ‘right’.
What is interesting is that the commonality of the Tooting Left and the Barking Right is still shared in many ways (particularly in detachment from reality), although Covid has made a current split.
Where the Barking Right excel is in the victimhood whine, mirrored by the ‘woke’ left. After 40 years of neo-liberal dominance and the baleful influence of Austrian School economics, there is still the playground noise of it always being someone else’s fault – thus the illiterate use of terms like ‘communism’ and ‘marxism’ in a scam that has emerged from a Europe mainly governed now by the right in cahoots with global capital. Even tho’ Brexit was significantly championed by the MSM, I still hear whining about the way in which there was terrible bias. There was also outrage at the thought of further democratic process in terms of that indecisive minority vote.
” So name a centrist or right wing cause students have been protesting for.”
I can’t think of a distinctively right wing cause that anyone would bother to consider worth the effort in terms of advancing civilization! A lot of what you define as ‘left’, however, is inclusively of the broad centre ground.
But, fundamentally, the point I’m making is not about political leanings – its about sheer fantasy and lazy generalisation being paraded in a ‘sceptical‘ blog aiming at rationality. Your comment about what is taught in schools is a marvellous example of such fantasy. Personally, I’m more worried about the reality that religious indoctrination is still actually embodied in statute.
Straight away you confirm my point. They do.
Brexit is a left/right division since the pro Brexit argument is one of nationalism, national identity, and national freedom, while the anti Brexit argument is one of globalism and socialism. The only generational aspect of it is because older people tend to be more conservative, while younger people tend to be more liberal.
Your argument that this is only generational is asinine. You are implying people wanted to leave the EU only because they’re old, and for no other reason.
That is because the political environment in the UK is heavily biased towards the left. As such, what journalists call “the right” (the Tories) is centre left, at best. So of course the left will align a lot with the even further left.
The entire leadership of the EU is firmly of the left. They have banned any and all forms of nationalism. They are concerned on a daily basis with woke topics like inclusion and diversity. The EU is firmly for uncontrolled migration. They have completely abandoned the idea of individual rights. Nothing the EU is doing is even remotely right wing.
So, in other words, you admit that everything you have said previously is BS, and students do not advocate for right wing ideals, which makes them firmly left wing. Good to know.
Identity politics is not centrist. It is a continuation of Marxist ideology, except instead of the proletariat vs the bourgeoisie we now have the oppressed minorities vs the white patriarchy. The fact that you think that far left ideology is centrist shows just how far you’ve gone.
Except it is fact, and anyone can see that for themselves by spending 10 minutes perusing university curriculum.
Sorry, but I have not seen a religious zealot yet. I have not see anyone militantly promoting the CofE. I have not seen protests blocking cities and motorways over religious propaganda. But I have seen plenty of that in the name of leftist propaganda. So if you want to see a “marvellous example” of “fantasy”, look no further than what you just said.
You have perfectly illustrated my point about generalized prejudice dominating your narrative, in the same way that the Covid narrative is built on falsification of reality.
Of course Brexit wasn’t ‘left/right’. As I pointed out, the argument was obviously much broader than that, even in terms of a split in the establishment on that issue. As we see, it was a lot of irrelevant noise. But no, the EU is not ‘left’ by any sane description.
Obviously, your standpoint is so eccentric that everything appears ‘left’ to you. A bit like the proud parent at the passing-out parade who noted that their son was the only one in step. Many of the ideas you dislike are held quite widely across the political spectrum, whether you or I like them or not. It’s that displacement and reality-denial that I react against.
Your wishful updating of Marxism is best passed over – it really is beside the point and has nothing to do with the counterpart to your extremism – the ‘white patriarchy’ nonsense.
It really is incredibly fanciful to think that the school curriculum is an expression of ‘left’ ideology. It’s more to do with your ideology being left behind by changes in attitudes.
These changes have, of course, happened, despite the fact of much being under right wing governments.If there is a problem (and there is) with the curriculum, it has been the growth of gradgrindery at the behest of those government of the right, and the consequent impoverishment of learning.
AS an end-note, the demand of legislation re. indoctrination is for a ‘Daily act of Christian worship.’ Now – that 1998 requirement is indoctrination by law, even if the Covid religion is currently more dominant.
Considering you seem either unable or unwilling to explain how the marxist ideology embraced by the EU is anything but leftist, that statement of yours is meaningless, empty posturing.
And now you’re taking the examples of leftist ideology I have been pointing at and you’re pretending like that is everything there is. You are dishonest to the core. In a similar fashion I can also say that your viewpoint is so far to the left that everything appears “right” to you, even marxism.
You really have not been paying attention, have you. Of course you need to bring out a straw man argument to make you feel better. Unfortunately for you, you are wrong. Everything I have been saying so far is exactly that: Marxism (and I’m sorry for disliking an ideology that has killed tens of millions of people in the 20th century) is widely held across the political spectrum, which is why I said that the entire political spectrum is shifted to the left, and that the supposed “right wing” party is, in fact, centre left at best, and that the universities are overrun with marxist ideologues, and that you are so far to the left you can’t even see the centre from where you’re at. Thanks for proving me right.
Ignoring arguments only shows your dishonesty and intellectual shortcomings.
And yet you seem to be just about the only person here who is in disbelief of this fact, despite it being plainly obvious to anyone that chooses to spend 5 minutes on the internet looking it up.
So you do admit that the entire political landscape is shifter very far to the left. Sorry, but when extremists take over it doesn’t mean that their ideology is a good one. I’m sure that if this was 1930’s Germany you’d be telling me how my old-fashioned extremist ideas of leaving Jews alone are outdated and that gas chambers are a wonderful thing…
In which you again admit I am correct. Also, the UK has not seen a right wing government since Thatcher.
You should really spend some time understanding what the left and right say. Seems to me like you are completely ignorant of these basic concepts, since you seem to think that a government who is very much focused on globalism, uncontrolled migration, and identity politics is right wing. You are delusional.
In what way was Genghis Khan right-wing?
The same way Trump was – he’s a Bad Person, so obviously “right wing”.
No – he was just in the rich idiot Party.
In what way was he left-wing?
But it’s the truth. The indoctrination of University students has been happening since the 1960’s at a minimum, and it is now in Play School, Nurseries & all mainstream schools
Only in the minds of the terminally deranged!
This thread is turning into 77th Brigade’s dream of self-typification – the anti-matter of Covid barminess.
Yes in 1966 it was no longer possible to sit in the large Union cafeteria at Manchester Uni without finding left wing/Marxist leaflets on the tables and people having loud left wing political conversations (not debates) close by. We only wanted to talk about the excitement of studying our subject and what we had newly learned so we decamped to the pub
Well – proof of 12 of the brain dead, know-nothing friends of 77th Brigade here.
The negative matter of the Covidiots.
Interesting.
Do you really still not understand that much of your downvoting here is because on certain particular topics you instantly resort to empty personal abuse?
Of the now 15 downvoters there (I’m not among them fwiw), I bet the vast majority are downvoting for that reason, not the surrounding politics (whereas obviously the currently 3 upvotes are purely partisan, because what is there to upvote otherwise in empty abuse?)
The interesting thing here is the motivation question. On certain particular issues – the political correctness ones, primarily, along with partisan left/right stuff that criticises the left, you consistently respond in this way, and you almost as consistently evade any substantive discussion. The assumption based on the evidence to date is that you have probably longstanding personal bitternesses here, combined with presumably an incapacity to defeat the positions you hate, intellectually.
Presumably that’s what drives your anger and hostility in these areas.
I wouldn’t normally engage in such speculation, but your behaviour renders it a topic of interest and leaves you without any reasonable personal grounds for objection
It’s not personal abuse – it’s abuse at ideas that abuse intelligent thought and the substitution of incoherent prejudiced babble. I can get that from the MSM.
If you look carefully, you will see that the occasional acid comments are in response to wild, general assertions that are detached from reality – exactly like those coming from Covid proponents.
It’s not about criticizing/defending the ‘left’ – it’s about hanging stupidly irrelevant labels like ‘communist’ and ‘marxist’ on stuff you disagree with, and the fact that the issues are not actually much to do with anything of that description.
In short – it comes from just being anti-bollocks, not pro-left. For the record, in real life, I am frequently in the position of arguing against what is crudely labelled ‘wokeness’. What I against here is knee-jerk simplified typification of what is going on, which is usually prejudice and sour grapes wrapped up as thought.
Substantive discussion? – That’s what it isn’t to start with, and what I’m tetchy about.
Do stop indulging in pompous hypocrisy about ‘long standing bitterness’. The cap will fly off the peg onto your head.
“It’s not personal abuse – it’s abuse at ideas that abuse intelligent thought and the substitution of incoherent prejudiced babble. I can get that from the MSM.”
It’s empty abuse, and usually in vituperative and personally offensive terms
“If you look carefully, you will see that the occasional acid comments are in response to wild, general assertions that are detached from reality – exactly like those coming from Covid proponents.”
It’s not “occasional”, it’s a regular and consistent feature of your contributions here. And it’s not targeted at “wild, general assertions that are detached from reality” in general;, but at specific comments of the kinds I summarised previously. And they are only that in your opinion, of course. Many here disagree with you about that characterisation and regard them as either accurate descriptions of the real world or legitimately arguably points, at least. But you are unwilling to, or incapable of, responding to them substantively.
“It’s not about criticizing/defending the ‘left’ – it’s about hanging stupidly irrelevant labels like ‘communist’ and ‘marxist’ on stuff you disagree with, and the fact that the issues are not actually much to do with anything of that description.”
In your opinion. But disagreement with such assertions does not require the kind of angry hostility you consistently display, nor does it benefit from the abuse you deploy.
In short – it comes from just being anti-bollocks, not pro-left. For the record, in real life, I am frequently in the position of arguing against what is crudely labelled ‘wokeness’. What I against here is knee-jerk simplified typification of what is going on, which is usually prejudice and sour grapes wrapped up as thought.
You have made it clear that you are of the political left, of longstanding. Obviously that doesn’t mean you agree with everything anyone of the left ever says, and indeed the left is justly famous for the bitterness of its internal squabbles over dogmas and policies.
If something really is “knee-jerk simplified typification of what is going on, which is usually prejudice and sour grapes wrapped up as thought”, then it would be easy for you to demolish it with substantive refutation. Or simply state your disagreement in non-abusive terms. Alternatively, you could usefully ignore it, to leave it standing as self-discrediting, as so much internet political comment is.
But you seem incapable of either, resorting promptly to empty abuse.
“Substantive discussion? – That’s what it isn’t to start with, and what I’m tetchy about.”
Again, this is just restating your opinion without adding anything.
“Do stop indulging in pompous hypocrisy about ‘long standing bitterness’. The cap will fly off the peg onto your head.”
More pointless immaturity – “I know you are you said you are but what am I?”.
Fed up with your and others ad hominem stuff on here. Give us a break
Lockdown is communist.
Nope. Marxism thrives in academia
They have been bombarded with Pyongyang propaganda and they have been set terrible examples by adults.
It has never stopped university students protesting against inequality in the past.
They are happy enough to protest against statues and right wing commentators. Are the young all snowflakes now or is it only the woke green left that are angry enough to make a stand.
The country is doomed if this is the next generation of professionals.
It’s not the same. We are living in an age of media control that is unprecedented. And it wasn’t this generation that allowed it to happen.
Exactly – blaming the victim is just going along with a repulsive meme.
Yes the propaganda has painted anyone who tries to challenge masks, lockdowns, mass vaccination as extreme and far right so it’s harder to challenge. I found myself amongst a few folks who are vaccine zealots the other night, they cannot see there might be pros and cons to vaccination as like other medical interventions. The vaccine narrative has been so forceful, vaccines now are seen by many as magical cure alls and anyone trying to raise other points is looked at with disbelief. I felt unable to make any inroads into the conversation with them as my feeling was they would have viewed me as a Luddite.
I foresee more vaccines coming for as many viruses as possible and the general population will lap them up. Those that don’t, like us here, will likely be seen as an odd minority.
Absolutely. The Left has abandoned the field for the Right to become the only opposition to Covid. I hang my head in shame as a left-winger at what is happening in Brighton as we speak. Opposition to lockdowns and Big Pharma belongs to the Left if anyone. I’m now grateful to the likes of Dan Wootton speaking up to defend my liberty while squirming at his anti-environmental views.
The Labour Party have left the field not all left thinking individuals
No sorry that excuse allows the worst kind of human behaviour. “I was just following orders”. I didnt want to lose my job” I didnt want to not be accepted by my social group.
Children know right from wrong at an early age, this is wrong, there is no excuse to hide behind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00HNpAG13Sk&t=5s
Rubbish. If they are at university, they are there to speak freely. If students are so frightened they need to follow the herd, then they should be at work and learning how to stand on their own two feet. Our ancestors had been in wars, run farms, got married, had children by the age of 20yrs. What’s wrong with the teenagers of today!! They have become feminised and soft. They are at an age when they should be hungry for life, hungry for success and hungry for their future. Instead they are too scared to even respect their own body and ask a few basic questions.
Around us it is students that are wearing masks. Our university alongside the two in Leicester have set up vaccination clinics, ours is in part of the university library staff area. Library staff still have to mask up, distancing etc. Our endowed schools are as bad, saw one pupil wearing a mask whilst walking to school.
I also live in an area with a large student population.
To be fair, it is a small minority that are wearing masks on the street.
Which area?
It’s a death cult.
Whoever is coming up with these disgusting, unethical, discriminatory policies – which also have no grounding in science whatsoever – is mentally deranged. Sick, evil b******s
Look no further than government, which is working flat out for the Bill Gates depopulation by vaccine agenda. These students are dead meat.
I am lost for words. A scenario is unfolding in which two ‘tribes’ have been deliberately manufactured, both of which believe themselves to be biologically superior, for reasons that have nothing to do with science, logic or reason. I fear we are heading for a very old-fashioned catastrophe.
I don’t think us unvaxxed believe we are ‘superior’ – many of us think the vaxxed are misguided, but there isn’t any wish to exclude or single them out. We just want to be left alone!
It’s the vaxxed who are driving this, increasingly regarding us (and treating us) as biological hazards.
You might be less dogmatic about it (as am I) but many unvaccinated believe themselves to be ‘purer’ with a naturally functioning immune systems. Many are also worried about ‘shedding’ and nervous about getting too close to the vaxxed. It’s a recipe for disaster isn’t it?
Those who take it to that extent are a minority though – and even then most aren’t trying to get the vaxxed banned from venues or activities.
Dirty shedding Mudbloods
Absolutely – but what I’m saying is that both sides have been ‘othered’ and feel themselves to be different – its an ingenious divide and conquer strategy.
Hopefully the boosters won’t be picked up with such great enthusiasm, which will then tilt the balance back toward the “unvaccinated vaccinated” aka the majority of normal people. What must be done now, however, is strong opposition to all attempts to check and segregate people. The danger is that the vaccination madness will become enshrined in laws – as has already been done in the US, for example. The goal must now be to prevent such laws, ignore them, and erase them where introduced. Also aim for new non-discrimination laws which forbid reintroduction of this oppression at any future time.
Absolutely agree – read an account from Lithuania yesterday that was blood curdling; the uninjected have been completely locked out of society and work with very little opposition.
Nothing less than a witch hunt
Yes yes to all of that
I have experienced hostility on here because I have had both doses, with people even suggesting that I would die. Although I will be offered the booster because of my age, I will not be having it as it is the mRNA Pfizer. Also vaccination status is technically part of your medical history, you cannot be forced to share it. This is definitely a divide and conquer strategy.
It’s your business, John. You’re vaxxed, I’m not.So long as neither of us thinks that the other is the ultimate enemy of the human race, it’s all fine by me.
My son and daughter-in-law have also been vaccinated and they are both currently isolating having tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 and have been unwell.
Oh dear, there’s such a lot of it about.
The sooner we acknowledge that there is not a real divide between vaxed and unvaxed the quicker we can unite to resist the Covid madness and get our freedom and humanity back
I hope you’re not misunderstanding the tech used in the injections. They are all mRNA based, including the AstraZeneca one. Only one of the Chinese “vaccines” is made with attenuated virus.
Reiner Fuellmich mentioned that they may try to mix and match injections to obscure direct correlations to long term side effects.
Absolutely.I don’t give a stuff if people are vaxxed. If they think that a magic syringe will save them from the lurgie, so be it. I don’t go about telling kiddiewinkies that there’s no Father Christmas.
Snake oil is vastly preferable to muzleoids, because you can’t see the damage.
I might not of thought I was superior when this utter evil started, but I most certainly think I am now. ALL the vaxxed, and all the masked are gormless morons in my eyes, and I include family members in that. Sure they’ve been subjected to a unprecedented bombardment of lies and propaganda, but after 18 months, but how long does it take someone to work out these evil b*stards are just dangling a carrot in front of them?
Let’s remember that many of the vaxed are now having reservations and will refuse the boosters
We don’t all want to be left alone. We want to fight to get our rights back using civil disobedience and if that doesn’t work, well it’ll have to be the barricades
I like your posts keep them coming
A reminder that the shameful descent of our academe is not limited to the UCU.
That is one way around the need of a passport. Not that I can agree with it.
Illegal.
I would have deferred!
And so the Yellow Star returns in places of Higher Education which doubtless teach some history.
Presumably some aspects of the Second World War will have to be re-written.
Places of learning? Yeah right.
And the penalty for wearing the wrong band?
Yellow stars coming next!
Yes, we appear to be living at the tail end of the Weimar Republic.
What’s next? A number tattoo on their forearms?
Chips (like the one in my dog).
Nah, a QR code is enough.
As a Sheffield alumni, I am deeply disappointed to see them advocating medical apartheid in the most heinously coercive & incentivised way, simultaneously singling out & persecuting unjected students, whilst rewarding the injected students with queue jumping…ffs.
We are fast moving into the age of conspirators and collaborators here. Private companies & education institutions are being asked to enforce the tyranny on behalf of the state. Under duress and threats of fines soon sure, but nevertheless the decision comes down to those individuals managing those organisations. “Just following orders” won’t stand up in Nuremberg trials.
The Nuremberg trials happened because there was an opposing force that won, and decided to hold those trials. There currently is no such opposing force. This is a global agenda. All the elites are on the same page. There is no one to hold them accountable. If people don’t unite against them, there will be no Nuremberg 2.0.
True, it won’t be reached through conventional means, most of the institutions & judiciaries are captured, bought & paid for, compromised. There may need to be such an inversion point of civil disobedience consuming the public sphere, before actual trials for crimes against humanity can take place without being a farcical pantomime.
I. for one, will welcome our new insect overlords, if they promise to put the current global elites to show trial. As long as they convict them..
It could backfire. The unvaxxed might be more able to get together to form friends groups and recognise each other by their bands. I live near here, and I wonder what the other local-ish universities are going to do….
Getting to join a priority lane will be enough to convince them to get jabbed.
Most people surveyed would have a chip under their skin if it made boarding faster and/or would give you their passwords for a Mars bar.
The Yellow Star rises from the grave.
Compliance is far easier after they’ve signed up for £18k a year of student debt. Perhaps those who will study biochemistry will experiment with graphene oxide (GO). I hear all about it in TED talks…
GO is made of Carbon, 6 neutrons, 6 electrons and 6 protons.
6uild 6ack 6etter folks.
Ah Segregation Bands, something sewn onto a sleeve would show up better. Those doing this are no better than those in the past
Supported by the NUS. Everyone who is PAID to defend our rights is actually going along with the vaxiscm.
I remember some years ago at work the secretary asked if I wanted to sign up for the company’s charity salary-payment scheme.
After telling her I was already a member she offered me an artificial flower to place on my desk.
The flower was obviously designed to let others know what a virtuous person I was, but also to create an us-and-them environment to put pressure on non members.
I declined the flower for that reason, but it would be good to see students also consider the larger picture and maybe words like ‘sun don’t shine’.
Wear Yellow Star badges instead and fake tattoos of numbers on their wrists. Live stream to social media when they are refused entry.
LOL! Yet more proof this isn’t about a virus!
That’s a great example
There is an interesting Jordan Peterson interview on You Tube where he makes the point that he regards both Covid and climate change as real.
He then goes on to say though that he sees the policies that are being implemented to address them as far more harmful than either of them could ever be.
This sorry state of affairs illustrates his point perfectly.
“There is an interesting Jordan Peterson interview on You Tube where he makes the point that he regards both Covid and climate change as real.
He then goes on to say though that he sees the policies that are being implemented to address them as far more harmful than either of them could ever be.”
Seems like a pretty sensible position. tbh.
NO FUCKING WAY
Cambridge University and two Oxford colleges have
asked students to disclose their Covid vaccination status to staff.broken the lawFIFY
FIFY?
Giving inferior service based on medical status breaches the disabilities act.
Fixed It For You
Thank you.
Ask the LGTBGTXYZWTFBBQ society if the scheme should be extended for instance AIDS status?
Nah, make sti testing compulsory and make them wear the result pinned to the chest. Of course tests need to be done at least every 6 weeks.
Combine digital sti certificates with remote controlled chastity belts. Anything for safety and health (and don’t forget population control).
The NUS are obviously opposed to such discrimination ?
The unax’d students need to form up and do their own things outside of the prison gates.
IFR for uni age cohort is .001. And yet, we act as if this is still Ebola. And how often must people get jabbed? Annually? And what about those without vaccination but prior infection? Are we going to focus on immunity? Or just checking boxes?
Right, I thought I’d share some positive experiences as I’m sick to the teeth of the doom pilling.
Met a couple of old friends (not at the same time) recently. Neither flipped out about me not being vaccinated and had some sympathy for the political arguments (I probably lost them with my suggestion that SAGE should be burned alive on Question Time). One of them was even quite clued up on some of it, e.g. he was aware of the near-total vaccine failure in Israel. He also bragged about having taken the AZ vaccine and not the ‘dodgy’ mRNA ones. He’s extremely based (more than me in some respects) though so not representative of the general populace.
Secondly, last week I went back to a sports club I used to frequent pre-lockdown. Don’t want to give too much away but if you are afraid of Covid it really should be the last sport you’d ever want to do. Numbers were pretty solid. About half were wearing masks or visors. Nobody gave me any grief about not doing it. One guy even gave me a hug (he was one of the people wearing a mask, not at that time though). The guys at the door to the sports centre look eminently bribe-able should vaccination passes be introduced for gyms, so if it comes to it maybe that is an option.
In general, I do get the sense that many people (most?) just want the whole thing to go away, and should a politician emerge that was prepared (like DeSantis, or even half of DeSantis) to give some hard truths about Covid to the public, whilst managing their concerns, I think it would be lapped up.
Yes indeed, not everybody who has had the vax is a zealot or terrified. Some are at least somewhat aware of the issues with creeping totalitarianism.
My take-away is that the vast majority of the world population is perfectly fine with “creeping totalitarianism.” They actually despise those of us who are warning about it.
Maybe not the “vast” majority and maybe also a lessening majority
That’s positive?
“ I do get the sense that many people (most?) just want the whole thing to go away,”
You’re not wrong. But that’s a massive distance from sussing the fraud and pushing against it.
Yes there is a good way to go
You really ought to inform your mate who bragged about the AZ jab that it is also based on mRNA tech.
This NY Times article explains it https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/oxford-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine.html
How long before the unvaccinated are forced to wear one of these …
And a pink one for unvaccinated gays?
The gays I know have been the first in the queue to get injected! Haven’t learned anything from the Aids period.
Then the vaccinated with any principles at all should ALSO wear them. It’ll then truly be a case of ”I am Spartacus” if enough do so.
On the topic at hand, my (very large US professional services company) have made it mandatory to declare your vaccine status in a confidential way (via an online portal). ‘I do not wish to say’ is an option, which is what I chose, since its none of their business.
If vaccination becomes mandatory I might try and get a 100% WFH role (and if they won’t have it then maybe as a contractor). They’d have a hard time saying that I can’t function in that role, give that me and all my colleagues have been doing just that for 18 months.
From our university web site about challenging people not obeying the rules
https://www.lboro.ac.uk/internal/studying-working-living/say-when-not-ok/
My goodness, is this for real? Manages to be patronising, and passive aggressive, all at the same time!
I am thankful every day that I was at University several decades ago.
Imagine being the person who writes these instructions. No, better don’t, too traumatizing.
I’m sure it excites them in the most unpleasant and perverse way….. Rather like those people in metaphorical dirty raincoats who want to ”OFFER” jabs to children.
I love how the last point is essentially “snitch on them and run away yourself”. What a perfect advice for our future pillars of society.
I saved this for my Surreal Clip File under the headings: How to “Rat Out” Your Neighbors. How to force others to Comply and Obey.
https://www.lboro.ac.uk/internal/coronavirus/latest-updates/update-for-students-06-09-21/
https://lsu.co.uk/termsandconditions student union will be expecting proof of vaccination or negative test result. Main university will not.
I wonder how they decided that, and whether they were influenced by any external funding.
It’s ironic but in the 1970’s and 80’s students boycotted Barclays Bank because of its ties to the Apartheid regime in South Africa.
I remember that. And all the singing of “Free Nelson Mandela”. And boycotting South African products!
That was then. The interesting question is what has happened since?
Generally, students a not very politicized now (and actually, neither are the electorate)
Work it out.
Good question. In my day it was all rent strikes and occupying buildings and general protest; not now though.
My daughter is at another uni which hasn’t gone full on wristband, but still they have to show LFT or vax pass to go into any union events. The best of it is, every single person in her house is now ill, except for her. And guess what is the other thing distinguishing her, apart from being in good health?
I’m suprised that they didn’t want them to wear yellow star badges, given the same ‘appreciation’ of leftists of those of the Jewish faith…
Not a university, but a shop in a town in Suffolk, today. Gobsmacking notice in window, and I quote:
“Please ensure you are wearing a mask while queuing and during your time in the shop.
If you are exempt from wearing one due to medical reasons, please wait until the shop is empty before entering, allowing other customers to choose whether to be in the shop at the same time.
We reserve the right to check your temperature when entering the shop.
If you choose not to use hand sanitiser we respect your right not to, but we then respectfully ask you not to touch anything in the shop. We are happy to help with your shopping and will collect any items for you”
I was so astonished at this blatant discrimination, against anyone who doesn’t wear a mask for whatever reason, that I took a photo of it.
So, if I have asthma and don’t wear a mask, I have to hang about until the shop is empty, before I can go in. If I get eczema from the hand gunk, I’m not allowed to touch anything. They don’t ask me to clang a bell as I’m walking about, to warn the virtuous maskies that I’m about, but they might just as well.
This is a green grocer’s shop, today, September 2021.
The worst thing is that they frankly deserve to go bust, but most lemmings will cheerfully comply.
They won’t go bust in Suffolk
Hope they go out of business.
They bloody well deserve to.
They won’t. It will be full of people who wear masks even to walk to the damn shop saying ‘thank you for keeping us safe’.
They didn’t get my business. There were a few people in, all masked up, of course.
This town seems to have quite an authoritarian air, as several shops had noticed demanding mask wearing. One even said they asked it “in line with government regulations”.
The whole town had a decaying feel, many closed or empty shops and businesses, and not that many people about. Hardly surprising.
Yet here in another part of Suffolk it is quite relaxed. Some shops still have “mask required” and hand sanitiser notices but no-one cares that I do neither. Masks are well down in the street and even in the supermarket.
Which town?
Hadleigh?
Yes. And we SHOULD ensure they know how people like us feel. If we just walk away, we’re giving in. Write at the very least. Stay and make a fuss if you’re brave. But don’t just walk away.
In Sainsbury’s North Cheam most people were masked. I congratulated personally the four I found who weren’t. They didn’t seem to understand
Boycott.
Deserves to die.
I am writing to every establishment who promotes this kind of divisive tosh. I don’t suppose it’ll make much difference unless many others do so too. I tell them they’ll alienate more people than they’ll attract – whether that’s true or not, perhaps it’ll be food for thought if I’m not the only one saying it.
It won’t alienate people unless and until they turn. That time has not yet come
Is this shop one of those that accept cards only, no cash? The shop deserves to flounder. Good riddance.
Which town in Suffolk
Asked to disclose?
Fuck off.
With reference to this great comment from Galene77 the other day.
“Q: What’s the difference between a Vaccine Passport and a Yellow Star?
A: 82 years…”
Students (and, of course, faculty) never protest for free speech or against censorship.
Maybe the universities and the governments of the world could implement a “final solution” to the eternal unvaccinated.
Why not yellow stars?
Simple. Boycott the apartheid universities. Boycott the student unions and their poxy bars and nightclubs. Only frequent establishments that don’t impose such sanctions for the unvaccinated. Vote with your feet and deprive these bastards of your money.
Where can I buy these magic bands that, despite the not-vaccines being as much use as a chocolate teapot, confer immunity from the alleged virus?
Wristbands? Not yellow stars then?
Welcome to the new apartheid.
They need to say “NO”! Coercion is blatantly against the Nurnburg Code, which the UK is signed up to.
This is the student union doing this. Utter scum. The body supposed to represent students is steamrollering them like this.
Is this vaccine apartheid? Right in 2021? Isn’t this similar to how the Nazis badged the Jews with a yellow star?? Where are the warriors of liberty ?? Are universities are now as corrupted as the gangsters who fund them?? Is t this how hatred is bread? & what kind of brainwashing education is this now?? Why not burn the foreheads of the unvaccinated with a UV just like the cowboys marked the cows so we can clearly see them ?? how about a badge for Heterosexuals ? Another colour badge for lesbians ? One for gays? One for Eastern Europeans so they’re not mistaken with the English ?
Evil Sinister idiots! & the union scums? Yes scums! Parasites ! They’d sell their own mothers for a buck & a bit of fascism glory
Yes I’m unhappy with this.
I thought that it was against the law to ask people for personal health information; has this been repealed or just conveniently ignored?
Arbeit (or wristbands) macht frei…
When the vaxxed are contracting and transmitting Covid, what exactly is a wristband meant to do. Who is responsible for this type of discrimanatory measure. 1:1000 cases of myocarditis post vaxx in young men, who have a negligible Covid risk. Case fatality rate and infection fatality rate negligible. Vaxxed death rate significantly higher. What young person needs to take this experimental vaxx with minimal safety and efficacy data and no long term safety or efficacy data. Criminal.
So let me see, badges of identification to prove your social status. thus identifying the group of society that needs to be seperated because of their “inferior” status.
Hmmh, now where have I heard about something like that used before? Oh I remember, it was in that little country called Germany. Those badges it worked out so well for those people didnt it? and society was so much better off.
I wonder do the students and lecturers recognise the irony of the situation? they probably even have an anti bullying stance, diversity people and teach war studies,
Good Germans! Good British people following suit
Time for parents to step up to the plate and refuse to let their children go to university. Use your children’s natural competitiveness to start learning hubs from home. There must be many patents with barns and studios and there must be many professors prepared to leave retirement to help educate properly. Otherwise send your kids to work. There is no better education for life than a working environment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00HNpAG13Sk&t=5s
This about sums it up, Perhaps the universities would watch this
Then they should tell them to ‘go forth and multiply’. It makes no difference if you are jabbed or not as jabbed can still get it and pass it on. Completely insane!
If only people realised the power they hold when they join forces. Back in the 60s and 70s students were a pain in the butt forever marching about this and that now they’re so meek it’s embarrassing.
A variation on the Danish yellow star:
They could wear “rainbow” wrist bands, whatever their status? Get lots of them to do it. It clearly makes the point that they are not interested in colour segregation. And might (in this case) appeal to those on all sides of the political spectrum.
These students are our future leaders FFS! God help us all.
At least some of the current set of psychotic megalomaniacs actually had spines back in the day, when free spirit, independent thought, and inquisitive minds were still around.
I guess you’d have to go back to the ’60s ’70s and early ’80s to find the last of the real free-thinkers possessing backbones.
Oh, how they do change when they rise up.
Today’s student molluscs will be our leaders soon, and even more easily manipulated than the current escargatoire.
I think it was Billy Connolly who said “The desire to be a politician should bar you for life from ever being one.”
Some students might want to stand up to this form of discrimination. I’ll try to put myself in their shoes and consider just how awkward and difficult that might be for them. Look at what has happened to those medics who have spoken out.
But where is the legal profession when you really need them? The discriminated students need advice and protection based on the following principle of informed consent….. ‘It is the obligation of the provider to make it clear that the patient is participating in the decision making process and avoid making the patient feel forced to agree with the provider’ [PubMed.gov]. In my opinion any University that employs such a policy described in today’s article is blatantly interfering in this supremely important safeguarding ethical principle. It is scandalous.
Correct. Scandalous! Though scandalous is the norm now.
The world is defo topsy turvy.
We all live in a yellow submarine… I fear. Without the nice bits.