The U.K. Government is asking for public feedback on the use of domestic vaccine passports in indoor and outdoor venues if cases threaten to overwhelm the NHS this winter. The “Plan B” proposals could see nightclubs, concert halls, sporting events and outdoor festivals require proof of Covid vaccination status, with the opportunity to add more venues if necessary. The Telegraph has the story.
Ministers last night insisted the Government needed to be prepared to “act swiftly” and adopt measures such as vaccine passports “at short notice” if there were “unsustainable pressures” on the NHS as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic.
Health Minister Maggie Troup said: “While we are totally confident the careful steps we are taking will help rule out the need for mandatory vaccine certificates, we need to be prepared for all scenarios.
“We know these kinds of contingency plans will only work if businesses and the public get to have their say and I’m urging everyone who could have to use certification: give us your views, give us your ideas.”
Industry and the public have been given until October 11th to respond to the planned vaccine passports, which would be mandatory for all adults over 18 attending the prescribed venues, and will require legislation.
Under the plan, only double-vaccinated people would be certified by the passports. Negative Covid tests and proof of natural immunity after recently recovering from the virus would no longer be permitted.
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If you don’t want to see vaccine passports introduced this Winter, please respond to the Government’s consultation here.
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If anyone was in any doubt that the endgame is vaccine passports, here’s the proof.
This has to be resisted at all costs. Venues must stand their ground and refuse to act as agents of government. Patrons must refuse to play this game too.
It’s very obvious that this is not a health-related measure. How can it be when you can have a venue full of double-jabbed people who are infected, have a high viral load and are spreading viruses everywhere they go, but are not experiencing obvious symptoms because the jabs are suppressing them? To exclude people who are unjabbed, but have natural immunity is both discriminatory and entirely unnecessary.
IF this was a virus with a high infection fatality rate and IF the “vaccines” were real vaccines that produce near 100% sterilising immunity, then there might be a case for vaccine passports.
The example of Yellow Fever is often quoted. You need a vaccine certificate if you’re travelling to or from an endemic Yellow Fever area. But there’s a 30% chance of death if you get infected, and there’s a vaccine that has a decades-long track record of safety and efficacy and that vaccine kills or injures… Read more »
As others have noted, the questionnaire is biased.
Maybe we should restrain ourselves from being highly emotive or knee-jerk when filling in the form – tempting though it is. They will be pleased with that sort of response and will possibly dismiss such forms immediately – people may be tarred with the extremist brush. Maybe the best response is the total opposite with absolutely no emotion. This becomes an interesting mental exercise as to how to get the right message across.
It’s unbelievable there’s a list of exemptions given – the police, emergency services, council workers, under-18s,diplomats?? The virus doesn’t distinguish! This alone illustrates the total nonsense that the passport fiasco has now become. ‘Follow the Science’ they said – yeah right…
Nice theory. Filling in this form (I did it yesterday) will not make the slightest difference because the whole thing is a cynical sham.
They have NO INTENTION WHATSOEVER OF TAKING ANY NOTICE OF WHAT WE SAY,
They don’t care.
But one day they will care, and for their sake it would be best if it were in this life and not the next.
Have just gone on to site as suggested and filled in all the sections. Please, everyone, if you are against tyranny and state control, do likewise. And express your total opposition to this coercive means of state control
Study carefully the weasel words: “While we are totally confident the careful steps we are taking will help rule out the need for mandatory vaccine certificates, we need to be prepared for all scenarios.” They are “totally confident”…. BUT. “Will HELP rule out”, i.e. won’t rule out at all. Mandarin speak to the letter. Remember Bismarck’s famous aphorism: “Never believe anything until it’s been officially denied”.
I looked at the Consultation and didn’t like the way the questions were phrased so abandoned it.. I initially stated that all forms of discrimination were wrong and something this government shouldn’t be encouraging. I will now write to the government expressing my disgust.
Now do people realise what this was really about? Certainly not our health – ITS ABOUT CONTROL! Toby FGS stop thinking this wicked government cares about our health!
Quite so: I have even stopped thinking that TY cares about our health!
Feedback provided.
Inevitably there is nowhere to state that you disagree with “certification” except in comments that probably aren’t read.
The end question was “is there anything we (dept of health) can do better”? Answer “just about everything”!
This has always been plan A
Well, here’s my input, for what it’s worth:
“Please provide any additional comments you have on requirements on people working at venues where certification would apply. (maximum 500 words)”
The introduction of intrusive methods with regard to anyone’s health records is intolerable in that context. Whilst it’s normal for certain requirements to be confirmed – such as eyesight, colour vision and so on, and other medical requirements for certain roles, there is no need to introduce anything novel for any particular illness at all.
Whilst I am completing this as a member of the public, I have had a lot of experience as a health & safety organiser for events with several hundred attendees, and see no reason to add anything new in this form. There are many more risks that are managed normally, than the odd occurrence of an allegedly novel infection!
“Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. We welcome any further comments you may have relating to this consultation. (maximum 500 words)”
It’s bizarre that so much time and expense is being applied to this kind of thing. Hopefully common sense will return before too long.
“What could we do better?”
Ideally, step aside… Read more »
Still doesn’t work. Surprise!
Gosh, just the same as everywhere else in the world, even the same colour, just the same data and interoperability, and even the same capacity limits on venues, isn’t it amazing how many coincidences we see here?
STOP BELIEVING IN COINCIDENCE THEORIES
It all genuinely has been a conspiracy, and is FA to do with a virus. The global biometric ID system is needed for the global social credit app. The global social credit app is needed to minutely control billions of people without the requirement for expensive and time consuming death camps. Cash will be eliminated, and social credit will provide the former market functions of cash – supply and demand will be tuned via real time data on all “spending”. International travel and private vehicles will be just for the global elite. It’s all happening. Can you people genuinely still not see that it is happening?
Feedback provided.
Although I think the majority will support them and then we’ll have it rammed down our throats forever.
” with the majority of people supporting our action we have decided to blah blah…………….”
The surveys are rigged. See this article formerly on the WEF site from WEF Partner Ipsos Mori. Do people want vaxports? it depends how you frame the question!!!
https://web.archive.org/web/20210907145424/https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/09/how-can-framing-decisions-impact-the-issue-of-vaccination-passports/
Some of the questions in the consultation have an answer option set that is biased towards vaccine passports, clearly indicating the decision has effectively been made. You also have to read the questions and answer options very carefully to make sure you don’t fall into their trap of giving the answers they want.
Yes, beware the double-negative!
Anyone else thinking they just signed the register of people to get rid of under the new regime!?
The questionnaire is seriously skewed. It essentially asks how much tyranny you want not whether you want it at all.
So those who have had Covid will not be eligible for one of these ineffective “vaccine passports”? Why? They have immunity. It is that simple. I would urge every single person to respond to this survey. You are being asked for your input. This government is willing to implement one more costly, ineffective measure despite the fact that their is a 5 million person waiting list for surgery and treatment, no blood vials at the surgeries, no fuel at the forecourt and empty shelves at food shops. Honestly, if people do not fight for their rights, you might as well lock yourself in your house for good.
What you mean when people north and south of Hadrians wall didn’t kick up when it was I troduced up here you thought that Westminster wouldn’t join the party also.
IT will never be for wi ter.
We’re dealing with egregious fraudsters. THE FINDINGS OF THIS ‘SURVEY’ WILL BE FALSIFIED. This conclusion accords with Lord Denning’s 1956 judgement that fraud vitiates everything it touches.
So that’s it. The government has asked me who I hate, how they can help make these people’s lives misery and further my own sense of moral superiority.
Substitute any other group in society- Jews, vegetarians, Brownies, redheads and see how this exercise in prejudice and ignorance can be used against others in the future.
This questionnaire is insanely biased, it is loaded and completely transparent. They are treating the population as they deserve to be treated. Complete muppet-morons!
Read this https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/29/the-time-has-come-to-stand-up-and-take-your-freedom-back-its-now-or-never/ if you need a reminder of WTF is going on here. This is FuXXing outrageous. I am literally trembling with anger.
I responded to the “Consultation.” But we all know this is just an exercise in pretending to consult.
The Lockdown Extremists want their Chosen Method of Control and Coercion ….. so they’ll get it.
A disgusting survey that is designed to get phony “evidence” by loading the questions in their favour.
I filled in the “survey” and then at the end I am not sure that the results were taken in. Even if they were, I am sure that I will be discarded as an “outlier” when I suspect that opposition to vaccine passports is actually mainstream opinion.
The dishonesty of the Government is manifest in everything they touch.
My final comment on the consultation form:
”I am double vaccinated because of my age and health. My vaccine protects me, it does not protect anyone else because it does not prevent me catching or spreading Covid. For most Covid is a trivial illness though for those with comorbidities it can in a small % of cases be fatal. I assessed my own risk and took the vaccine. As I am protected from serious illness, to a degree, it does not affect me if the person in the next seat or serving me is unvaccinated in fact if they have natural immunity it probably helps us as it seems to be more durable than vaccine immunity. I strongly believe vaccine passports are unnecessary, unscientific, unethical and unBritish. I will never vote for a party which introduces or supports them.”
I also made the point it was poor practice to not have a “neither” option on some questions. I did know what I thought but there was no option to say “neither” or “none of the the above”.
Wanted. Person with a Vax Passport to do my shopping.
For Hire. One Vax Passport. Need to get to that concert, but don’t have a Vax Passport? I can help. Email for details.
The ‘vaccines ‘ offer some protection, but the vaccine passports offer total protection. Got it!
No sh*t.
Me: Enjoy the freedoms whilst you can, I fear UK will be in lockdown again come Winter.
Aunt: No way they’d do this, it would bankrupt the country.
Me: Maybe that’s the point. It doesn’t matter why, but we can see they are actively destroying the economy.
Aunt: Um I’m really sorry I have to go now, bye!
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people cannot face the truth – head in sand much easier to cope with
My blurb at the end:
Filled in the “consultation” not that they haven’t already decided. What democracy is left?
“if there were “unsustainable pressures”
As that can be claimed every winter for the last 5 years or more, they mean they will keep pushing for electronic id, citizen points and geo-fencing so that when they let the economy collapse they can stay in control and keep all the money and power that has been fraudulently transferred. However, I suspect the last laugh will be China’s. After they have royally screwed democracy and the West, guess who will walk through the door. China doesn’t seem too concerned about racism and these idiots of the West are not Chinese. As soon as they utter the words; “But that wasn’t the agreement, this is my country” it will be a double tap if they’re lucky.