Ministers Expected to Shelve Plans for Covid Vaccine Passports in All Domestic Settings – But Venues Will be Able to Enforce Their Own Schemes

Ministers are expected to announce that vaccine passports will not be required at mass events from next month and says that we should learn to "live with Covid". Venues will, however, be able to run their own schemes.

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Finally, some good news! The Government is expected to announce that vaccine passports will not be required at mass gatherings from next month and says that we should learn to “live with Covid”. The good news, however, ends there, as venues will be told that they can run their own certification schemes. Plus, vaccine passports could be back on the cards this winter when an inevitable new variant becomes the latest cause of concern. The Mail has the story.

Ministers are set to shelve plans for the mandatory use of ‘Covid certification’ after Freedom Day on July 19th. Plans for pubs and restaurants had already been put on the backburner following a backlash from MPs and the hospitality sector.

The Mail can now reveal that ministers have also dropped the idea of imposing them on mass events. Organisers will, however, be permitted to run their own schemes, with the Premier League among those expected to introduce some form of certification to prove those attending football grounds do not pose a Covid risk. …

[Boris Johnson] told the Cabinet yesterday that our vaccination success means Britain will be able to “live with Covid” because the link between virus cases and hospitalisations has been broken. …

“We need to get used to the idea of treating Covid more like flu,” [a Government] source said. “People have the flu vaccine, which helps reduce serious illness, but we still get large numbers of cases and significant numbers of deaths.

“When we get to July 19th, cases look like they will be potentially very high, perhaps as many as 30,000 or 40,000 per day. But that is not in itself a reason not to go ahead, provided hospitalisations and deaths remain at relatively low levels.” …

A Downing Street spokesman said: “Cabinet agreed that once we have completed the roadmap, we will be able to live with Covid in the future – even if cases continue to rise – thanks to the protections provided by the vaccine.”

In what appeared to be a coordinated series of interventions, Michael Gove said people will have to live with Covid in “the way that we live with flu”, which claims thousands of deaths each winter but does not require society and the economy to be locked down. …

Whitehall sources told the Mail that [vaccine passports] will be shelved for domestic use, despite ongoing trials at Wimbledon and Wembley. Pilot schemes have controlled access to mass events by requiring those in attendance to supply proof that they have been vaccinated or tested for Covid.

Ministers now believe that the success of our vaccination programme means such measures will not be required across Britain this summer, avoiding another potential clash with MPs.

“It is looking unlikely that we will have to make Covid certification compulsory, even for mass events,” a source said.

“It will be needed for foreign travel and some events may choose to run their own schemes, but it does not look like we will need legislation at this stage.

“The work has not been wasted. It will be needed for travel and we will have a system in place which could be used if we need it in the winter.” Indeed, plans for widespread use of the passports could be revived in the event of another major wave of Covid. This would allow venues to stay open even if cases soar dramatically. Number 10 said the PM was “increasingly confident” there would be no need for further delays to lifting curbs on our freedoms.

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ellie-em
ellie-em
5 years ago

They will push for a vaccine passport for travel, come what may. The EU have planned for this for year’s, with 2022 being the year targeted for full roll out for common use of vaccine passports.

https://ec.europa.eu/health/sites/default/files/vaccination/docs/2019-2022_roadmap_en.pdf

bringbacksanity
bringbacksanity
5 years ago
Reply to  ellie-em

Are we insisting on foreign travellers having a vaccine passport to enter the U.K. ? If yes, then we are very much part of the problem.

ellie-em
ellie-em
5 years ago

The U.K. is very much part of the problem – and a willing partner. To support the ‘themes’ of the roadmap, it’s highly likely the U.K. will reciprocate to enable travel to / from / within the EU.
The U.K. is looking at adapting the NHS app as a vaccine passport. No doubt the recent hurriedly hidden intrusive personal data that demonstrate if the carrier is a ‘model’ citizen – work history, criminal convictions, full medical history etc – will be unveiled again at some point and voila, a full ID of the carrier. Most probably all of the Five Eyes will adopt something similar…in the interests of ‘strengthening cooperation against vaccine-preventable diseases’ of course.

ellie-em
ellie-em
5 years ago

‘Protections provided by the vaccine’ my arse.

Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
5 years ago

Just spoke to a friend who nows my opinions about C19 rubbish and to a certain extent agrees with me but “follows the rules”. Anyway he’s in isolation as his wife who had covid last year and had the 2 “vaccines” was contacted by the trace and trace app that they have been in close contact with someone who’s tested positive and need to self isolate.

How fucking brain dead are people to believe they are in mortal danger and could kill a granny if they went out.

My lawn mower is more deadly than C19.

Milo
Milo
5 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

I know a young man in the same boat. My point was if he deleted the app on his phone he wouldn’t have been pinged in the first place and wouldn’t have had to self isolate. The people I have pointed this out to just don’t get it. They have been brainwashed to believe that there is a DEADLY VIRUS circulating with every breath of air they are exposed to and that the self isolation is vital to combat it.

Gtec
Gtec
5 years ago

If you believe anything the government says more fool you; it’s not good news because it hasn’t happened, and given Jackboot’s track record, it won’t.

And not forgetting of course the ability to travel abroad still requires you o have a medical ‘passport’/ID card, one that links to other databases. Which means we are already ‘tagged’ with some sort of unique identifier, vaccinated or not, as the databases wouldn’t work otherwise.

So no, it isn’t good news because we are already partly there anyway. Welcome to the surveillance society, one you cannot escape from.

Remember, the tech that brings you this site is also the one that is enslaving you; it is a conduit for evil. It cannot be ‘uninvented’ but it can be controlled and regulated for our benefit; currently it is for the government’s benefit, not ours.

brachiopod
brachiopod
5 years ago

Meanwhile, TrialSiteNews has a piece ( https://trialsitenews.com/the-present-covid-19-vaccines-violate-all-10-tenets-of-the-nuremberg-medical-ethics-code-as-a-guide-for-permitted-medical-experiments/ ) from three academics pointing out that the pharmaceutical companies involved together with national governments have ridden roughshod through all 10 strictures on medical research during their vaccine roll-out.
Well worth a read, the biggest shame is that none of the usual suspects, or their useful idiots in Number 10 etc, will end up in prison, let alone swinging as the defendants in Nuremberg did.

Milo
Milo
5 years ago
Reply to  brachiopod

because no one is “enforcing” nuremberg code or anything else for that matter.

Stephanos
Stephanos
5 years ago

‘But Venues Will be Able to Enforce Their Own Schemes’
This, of course, leaves the possibility wide open for the various churches to introduce these accursed and infernal documents for entry into a church or to church controlled venues.
And I fully expect our useless dumb bishops to do just that.
All for Health and Safety, of course.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago

Two very clear red flags from this:

1. Vaccine passports shelved until winter.

2. There will DEFINITELY be a rise in some sort of virus cases this winter, sufficient to require the implementation of 1. above.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
5 years ago

“Finally some good news!” Oh Michael Curzon, how naive. That’s exactly the reaction this piece of political leaking designed for, “good news” post Hancock. But no signs that Sage has taken its foot off the necks of Toad and Gove.
Has anyone worked out the “problem” Gove found with passports? Was it legal, I wonder, did the lawyers explain how open they would be to challenges? The news about the high number of deaths and serious injuries, the fact that the stabbed still get Covid, all making them so open to challenge?

Loz_Dude
Loz_Dude
5 years ago

This is a rehash of things they’ve said before – sometimes months ago.
What I read from it is that they want to enforce vaccine passports for foreign travel – outgoing as well as incoming – and that is a huge infringement on personal choice and liberty. They may impose them only on British residents, leaving foreign visitors unconstrained – this seems to be all about controlling the UK population.
And once they’ve got us used to vaccine passports for travel, guess what’s next …

Rogerborg
Rogerborg
5 years ago

I am minded to recall the wisdom of Sir Humphrey: “The first rule of politics is: never believe anything until it is officially denied.”

Vaccine passports / ID apps / Social Credit Score apps are the goal. Everything leads to them.

They just didn’t get them in place fast enough to ride the summer wave of the scamdemic.

Fret not, they’ll keep refining the mechanism, using foreign travel and crony companies to get us used to showing our papers and begging for permission.

When the winter flu season comes around, and they can start pushing the narrative about Our NHS being “X days from collapse” (same as every year) then they’ll make a domestic re-appearance.

Victoria
Victoria
5 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Great post

Agree. They are working very hard on a digital passport with all aspects of our lives linked to that.

One of the major power suppliers are ‘building’ massive data centres for the government.

Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
5 years ago

I don’t believe a word that comes out the mouths of the Faucists or their collaborators

FrankFisher
FrankFisher
5 years ago

A global biometric ID system is coming, because it is required for the enslavement of mankind, which is quite obviously the motive for all this nonsense. I defy anyone to come up with a more rational explanation. However, as someone who works with data and integrations, the timescale for this is years, not months. Integrating data sources and establishing 100% effective push-pull data hygiene will be a mammoth task, plus they need their war with Russia first.

None of this shit is going away.

Time for a change
Time for a change
5 years ago
Reply to  FrankFisher

Unless the maniacs are defeated utterly now they will be back to try again

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago
Reply to  FrankFisher

And that is how I see this too.

WilliamC
WilliamC
5 years ago

Don’t believe a word of it. One of the objects of the exercise is digital identity tied to vaccination status. It will be back in force later this year. If we ease up now on the organising, the protests, the agitation, the non-compliance, leafleting, stickering, all the acts of resistance and opposition, then this will be last even partially free summer we will ever have.

JayBee
JayBee
5 years ago

Aufgeschoben ist nicht aufgehoben.
The domestic apartheid is just deferred.
The international one and ones are fully embraced.
Without ANY medical justification for either, illegitimately and illegally.
And neither the medical nor the legal profession or the ethical masterminds care, let alone object.
And Joe Public lost his mind and integrity a long time ago, he just wants to be part of the tyrannical majority and get a reward for it.
Ich kann gar nicht so viel fressen wie ich kotzen muss.

Victoria
Victoria
5 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Yes and everybody that is complying with these nonsensical government rules (masks, social distancing, vaccinations, etc) are complicit in getting digital passports implemented.

vote-for-nobody
vote-for-nobody
5 years ago

This is just another example of the governments SOP. “There will be no compulsory vaccinations” (but we will allow industry to impose them for us).
The policy being – ‘Let them police themselves’.

However, agreeing with helenf and replies, the easiest form of retaliation throughout has been to turn away and not use those services (apply financial sanctions).
Let the venues / cafes / restaurants etc go bust.
The same tactic with universities – see how many unis insist on vaccination when their income drops.
Don’t agree with Track & Trace? (I don’t) – “Sorry, I don’t have a mobile phone” (switched to silent in ones pocket!)

But the sad truth is (as has been shown throughout) that the majority of people just go along and thereby carry out enforcement themselves.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
5 years ago

I think insurance companies, looking at the heart inflammation risks for under 30s, are going to warn universities off demanding vaccination. Lawyers in the States must already be seeing earning opportunities. Young people with lifetime reduced heart function – it will produce very big bills.
Meanwhile anyone required to be vaxxed by a university or college or employer who can’t turn it down must send a letter before vaccination spelling out that they do not wish to, and are only doing it because of the demands. And keep copies for years.

Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
5 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

How about having the names and addresses of the people who insist upon ‘vaccination’? So that you know where they are if you suffer serious side-effects or death?

Sforzesca
Sforzesca
5 years ago

Worrying but sadly so predictable that yet again no mention is made of the superior immunity conferred by recovery/exposure to sars 1 and 2.
If, or should I say God forbid when, bio security passports become mandatory, should not the recovered be first in line?
Oh, I forgot that the WHO has airbrushed that fundamental immunological concept – and the MSM/BBC dutifully continue to carry out their orders.
If, and it’s a big if, this signals a change then perhaps the ” Freedom marches” contributed to it.
We’ve got to keep going. They’re not going to let proper medical science prevail.

lorrinet
lorrinet
5 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

Friends/acquaintances stare at me blankly when I tell them I have T-cell immunity from a nasty bout of covid and therefore do not need a vaccine. I go into some detail explaining about naturally-acquired immunity, but to no avail. The lie that “you can get it again” is so embedded in the nation’s psyche that nothing I say makes any difference. I have lost good, otherwise intelligent friends over this nonsense, and I find it shocking that this can have happened to the British people with such apparent ease.

Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
5 years ago
Reply to  lorrinet

The biggest danger is getting the original Covid, the English Mutant, the South African Variant, the Indian Strain and the Brazilian one all at the same time.

Rumour has it if that you take all 4 ‘vaccines’ – Johnson & Johnson, AstraZeneca, Pfizer and Windowlene – on the same day, there is a 78% chance of survival.

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
5 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

I guess you mean a 78% chance of survival from the vaccine?

If so sounds about right.

Milo
Milo
5 years ago
Reply to  lorrinet

Me too – on both counts acquired T cell immunity – which officialdom and health care systems refuse to acknowledge as a ‘thing’ and loss of friends and family who have given their brains wholesale over to this nonsense. Can happen to you if you watch too much BBC news and other programming

chaos
chaos
5 years ago

On Weinsteins latest podcast.. Dr Weinstein and Dr Heying.. they seemed to be suggesting that tests are run at different (higher) cycles for those vacinated…

Also they pointed out that latest research seems to indicate that for every 3 old people supposedly saved (i.e. given a year or two more of life) by the ‘vaccine’, two younger people die from reaction to the ‘vaccine’.

Victoria
Victoria
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

Yes so true. Different lower cycles for the vaccinated so that they can ‘show’ vaccinations ‘work’

chaos
chaos
5 years ago

Good news, bad news, open, close, light, dark… this way, that way… hope, hopeless…

Wear the plebs down.. have them all clamouring for experimental ‘vaccines’ and boosters… cull the herd. Save the planet for Nut Nuts, The Spider Memo King, and Lolita Express Gates.

chaos
chaos
5 years ago

Great news said Toby and Alison.. JUST ‘vaccine’ passports for holidays and quarantines.. just the poorer folks priced out of holidays.. those shelf stacker types that can’t work from home..

Savid is clearly going to be different sighed Alison. HHHuuuh!! Oh Liam… you and your Scooby voice that you have had permanently since your ‘vaccination’. Everything is normal now that we have vaccine passports. We will never lockdown again.

crimsonpirate
crimsonpirate
5 years ago
Reply to  chaos

as long as you get the right vaccine. I notice the news in the past few days about mixing vaccines is preparing the ground to get those who took the AZ to get vaccinated again

NonCompliant
NonCompliant
5 years ago

They’re just backing off until the winter flu season gets into gear. When the liars start throwing words around like ‘unlikely’ you know what will happen is the complete opposite.

Hypatia
Hypatia
5 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

“We said it was unlikely, but since the Alpha Centuri variant hit these shores, we’ve seen cases rising, so we know we must take action. We know that the British people expect us to do all we can to keep them safe.

Therefore, and with a heavy heart, we’ve decided to introduce the Covipass as from Monday. You can show this to gain access to a wide range of facilities, safe in the knowledge that you will only be mixing with other vaccinated people. And this is only for a short while, until we’ve got this variant wrestled to the ground and under control. As soon as circumstances allow, we will discontinue its use.

If you haven’t yet been vaccinated, the good news is that you still can book a jab, and so help protect you and your loved ones.

Stay safe!”

Time for a change
Time for a change
5 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

The only reply will be F### off

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
5 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

I remember when headlines said: Charles won’t marry Camilla. But the quote from him was along these lines: We have no plans to marry.
Watch that treacherous present tense.

Gessler
Gessler
5 years ago

Two (of the many) things I have learned this Lockdown:

  1. If the government says something is NOT going to happen, it probably is.
  2. If the government says something IS going to happen, it probably isn’t.
Stephanos
Stephanos
5 years ago
Reply to  Gessler

I disagree.
For (1) change ‘it probably is’ to ‘it will’.
For (2) change ‘it probably isn’t’ to ‘it will not’.

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago
Reply to  Gessler

100%.

This is a cast iron FACT.

Bella Donna
Bella Donna
5 years ago

I wouldn’t trust these bunch of globalist minions as far as I could throw them. They denied they were introducing vaccine passports and now are doing so. I hope they burn in hell for an eternity.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/uk-more-vaccinated-than-unvaccinated-people-over-50-test-positive-die-with-covid

Of note in this link is the fact the CDC are reducing the cycles on tests for the vaccinated but raising them for the unvaccinated. I cannot understand how these monsters are getting away with this. If the CDC are doing it you can bet we are too!

Rowland P
Rowland P
5 years ago

This was debated in a committee in the Commons as a result of a large petition and its recommendation was to NOT introduce Covid certificates/passports.

DeniseW
DeniseW
5 years ago

I signed a petition not to introduce passports. The reply from Parliament reads

The Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee (a group of MPs who look into issues relating to the UK constitution and civil service) has published a report which calls for the Government to scrap any plans to introduce domestic Covid-status certification, also known as Covid passports.

The Government has suggested that such a system, based on proof of vaccination or a negative test result, could help manage the disease in future, allowing the economy to reopen and social restrictions to be lifted. It is currently undertaking a review into whether (and how) such a system could be introduced.

However, the MPs on the Committee said the Government had so far failed to make the scientific case in favour of the system, and raised concerns that such a system could “disproportionately discriminate” against people on the basis of their race, religion, age or socio-economic background. They concluded plans for Covid passports were “unnecessary” and “unjustified”.

Read the report (HTML):
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm5802/cmselect/cmpubadm/42/4202.htm

The Committees report is scathing of the Government but I have no doubt in my mind that the Government will do it’s level best to introduce domestic… Read more »

huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
5 years ago
Reply to  DeniseW

How does a C1984 “passport” help “to manage the disease in future?”

This is a ‘flu type illness that predominantly kills the old and weak and which has an IFR of no more than 0.15%.

As data is proving, the vast majority are at more risk from the injection than the bloody illness.

This whole Shit Show has nothing to do with health and people on here need to move away from continuing discussions of the virus and concentrate on what this is covering – the Reset and the Green New Deal. Or, the New World Order which is coming on the back of our whining about covid and passports.

The US and THEM. The “important” people who bring economic benefit to the country such as G7 Comrades and EUFA officials who do not need to isolate / quarantine. Mind, its not as if anybody needs to isolate after travel – more bloody voodoo nonsense.

Let’s not forget that for those who survive this depopulation roll-out and make it to 2030:

“You will own nothing and you will be happy.”

It’s coming home 😉

Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
5 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

“You will own nothing and you will be happy.”

You will own nothing and be unhappy, and the government couldn’t care less.

Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
5 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

This whole Shit Show has nothing to do with health and people on here need to move away from continuing discussions of the virus and concentrate on what this is covering – the Reset and the Green New Deal. Or, the New World Order which is coming on the back of our whining about covid and passports.

yes. It never has been. If this scamdemic ends, it will be a v short respite before the next confected one. And that’s when the screw will really turn.

Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
5 years ago
Reply to  DeniseW

They concluded plans for Covid passports were “unnecessary” and “unjustified”.

‘yet….’

If anyone falls for those weasel words, they are letting their hope triumph over realism.

Any mention of unconscionable further removal of (the already hugely compromised) freedom and rights we took for granted most of our lives? Bet not. So, is the only factor “staying safe” (whatever the fuck that means). What happened to living life well?

Noumenon
Noumenon
5 years ago

In other words: “I promise not to hit you again darling, I didn’t mean to put you in hospital”.

Fiona Walker
Fiona Walker
5 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

I did it because I love you so much.

Hypatia
Hypatia
5 years ago
Reply to  Fiona Walker

But you must stop winding me up!

mojo
mojo
5 years ago

I suspect that yet again, as with masks, the Government will use the public to coerce each other into doing the very thing that could not be done by law.

We will now see pressure as with Bruce Springsteen, where many venues will declare themselves democratic enough to make their own choices. The Globalists know all the tricks. They know what they have created through fear. We know also they want every single person jabbed in order that there will be too few left to create any opposition.

They will now create apartheid and those on the outside of society as with Mao, and the Bolsheviks, will be rounded up and dealt with. Unless the sensible among us collect together and create a strong alternative society to fight this humanity as we know it will be gone within twenty years.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
5 years ago

If businesses want to put themselves out of business, let em.

Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago

So no more football, and no return to normal.

Get lost, Johnson

NonCompliant
NonCompliant
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Pretty much. I’ve unplugged completely from fotty knowing this dy would come.

B.F.Finlayson
B.F.Finlayson
5 years ago

So we have a fledgling idiot run UK apartheid state that is casually discarding international civil rights protections and protocols, such as the Nuremberg Code and the International Declaration of Human Rights, as well as hard fought UK equalities legislation, including the 2010 Equality Act.
Any venue, pub or restaurant attempting to introduce casual discriminatory medical fascism should be boycotted immediately.
Anyone choosing to use a discriminatory vaxx passport to gain entrance to venues barred to others, travel privileges over fellow banned citizens or employment advantages in the workplace is not only a traitor but also an active fascist collaborator – and should be treated accordingly.
All workplaces, companies and venues that insist on a vaxx passport should be sued as part of a class action by vaxx victims and their families, as they are part of the regime of coercion that is forcing millions to take dangerous experimental gene therapy treatments.
Is this what we want to go back to?

No Blacks etc.jpg
Hugh
Hugh
5 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

Worth repeating, as long as there are ethnic and religious groups (such as our church) which are disproportionately likely not to take these “vaccines”, vaxport effectively is “no blacks, no Irish”.

What I am wondering about is whether I will have to give in to testing if life becomes too intolerable without it (I hope not, as it is dangerous, invasive, and keeping the corona-scam going).

KidFury
KidFury
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Just remember a negative test is very easy to fake, so no need to even stick that swab anywhere you don’t want to

Mike Durrans
Mike Durrans
5 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Tell us more Kid

Loz_Dude
Loz_Dude
5 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Not if they scrap self-testing and only accept results from accredited test centres.

NonCompliant
NonCompliant
5 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Alternatively just keep sticking the swab in OJ to get a +ve result and time off work. 😉

Crystal Decanter
Crystal Decanter
5 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

Hack and trace works well – use it all the time

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
5 years ago
MikeAustin
MikeAustin
5 years ago

Yeah, right. Same old psyops – hope, despair, hope, despair. Vaccine passports will come back on the agenda.

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