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The Observer leads with a new poll by Opinium that reveals fewer than one in five of the British public believe the lockdown should be lifted. 67% of people think schools should remain closed, against only 17% who think they should reopen. Just 11% think it’s time to reconsider reopening restaurants, with 78% against, while only 9% think pubs should reopen, with 81% against. When it comes to sporting events, 84% are against allowing mass gatherings to take place, with just 7% in favour.

Unfortunately, that poll isn’t an outlier. A YouGov poll for the Sunday Times found that just 25% of adults would feel safe returning to work and the public opposes reopening schools by 48% to 28%. And 59% of people polled by the Sunday Express said they would not feel comfortable going out and don’t plan to resume a normal life any time soon.

It’s official. We’re a nation of bedwetters. As Benjamin Franklin said, “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

And it isn’t just us. In America, the lockdown zealots are on the march, having got the hashtag #extendthelockdown trending on Twitter. New York Times journalist Taylor Lorenz has been banging the drum for this cause, tweeting: “The ‘open up the economy’ people are truly the dumbest ppl on here. How do they think the economy will look when millions are dead and our hospitals are overwhelmed? If u want to ‘save the economy’ then u need to keep everyone *alive.*”

Among the “dumbest ppl” expressing scepticism about the effectiveness of the lockdown policy is Michael Levitt, Professor of Structural Biology at Stanford and the winner of the Nobel Prize for Chemistry in 2013. Levitt has given a great interview to Freddie Sayers at UnHerd pouring scorn on lockdown advocates and their scientific handmaidens. Among the points he makes is that the total number of deaths we are seeing in places as different as New York City, parts of England, parts of France and Northern Italy all seem to level out at a very similar fraction of the total population. “Are they all practising equally good social distancing?” he asks. “I don’t think so.” He points out that the lifecycle of the virus, wherever it has broken out, is remarkably similar, regardless of local differences and irrespective of whether lockdowns have been imposed or not. In particular, after a two week period of exponential growth infections and deaths tail off, meaning the projections of Neil Ferguson and other modellers, which assume constant exponential growth absent a lockdown, are vast overestimates. And worth bearing in mind that so far Levitt’s death toll estimates have been much more accurate than Professor Ferguson’s.

Here’s one of the interview highlights:

I think the policy of herd immunity is the right policy. I think Britain was on exactly the right track before they were fed wrong numbers. And they made a huge mistake. I see the standout winners as Germany and Sweden. They didn’t practise too much lockdown and they got enough people sick to get some herd immunity. I see the standout losers as countries like Austria, Australia and Israel that had very strict lockdown but didn’t have many cases. They have damaged their economies, caused massive social damage, damaged the educational year of their children, but not obtained any herd immunity. There is no doubt in my mind that when we come to look back on this, the damage done by lockdown will exceed any saving of lives by a huge factor.

One of the most interesting sections of the interview is when Levitt explains why epidemiologists’ predictions tend to be so apocalyptic. The reason, he says, is because if they underestimate the death toll likely to result from a viral outbreak they face catastrophic reputational damage – if people die, they get the blame – but if they overestimate it they face zero consequences. “In my work, if I say a number is too small and I’m wrong, or a number is too high and I’m wrong, both of those errors are the same,” he says. “It seems that being a factor of 1,000 too high is perfectly okay in epidemiology, but being a factor of three too low is too low.”

Worth reminding ourselves that Neil Ferguson’s estimates of the impact of previous viral outbreaks – which have been almost comically inaccurate – haven’t damaged his scientific reputation in the slightest. In 2001, he predicted that foot and mouth disease could kill up to 50,000 people. It ended up killing less than 200. In 2005, he told the Guardian that up to 200 million people could die from bird flu. The final death toll from avian flu strain A/H5N1 was 440. And in 2009, a Government estimate based on one of Ferguson’s models estimated the likely death toll from swine flu at 65,000. In fact, it was 457.

Just in case the Government’s anointed scientific experts haven’t done quite enough to scare the bejesus out of people, another group of experts is intending to shadow the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies and publish what looks to be even more cautious advise. According to the Sunday Times, the former Chief Scientific Advisor to the British Government, Sir David King, will chair the group, which is meeting for the first time tomorrow. “It is expected to focus on seven key areas,” says the report. “These include the criteria being used to lift the lockdown, how testing and tracing can be achieved, whether the policies on quarantine and the shielding of vulnerable groups are sufficient and how untapped resources can be better deployed.”

Whether the existing lockdown is sufficient?!? God give me strength.

Incidentally, it’s probably a good idea to watch Professor Levitt’s interview ASAP because there’s a risk YouTube will take it down. Yesterday, the video platform deleted David Icke’s channel, telling the BBC it had “clear policies prohibiting any content that disputes the existence and transmission of COVID-19 as described by the WHO and the NHS”.

The censorious attitude of the tech giants – and the gatekeepers of the mainstream media – to anyone who challenges official Covid orthodoxy is reminiscent of the suppression of dissent in totalitarian societies. A reader pointed me towards this quote by Friedrich Hayek:

The situation in a totalitarian state is permanently and in all fields the same as it is elsewhere in some fields in wartime. Everything which might cause doubt about the wisdom of the government or create discontent will be kept from the people. The basis of unfavourable comparisons with conditions elsewhere, the knowledge of possible alternatives to the course actually taken, information which might suggest failure on the part of the government to live up to its promises or to take advantage of opportunities to improve conditions, will be suppressed.

Friedrich Hayek, The road to Serfdom

Yesterday I flagged up the fact that America had endured a bad bout of seasonal flu in 1967 that killed 100,000 people – more Americans than COVID-19 has killed so far – and managed to cope without placing its citizens under virtual house arrest. A reader has drawn my attention to this piece in the National Review about how America responded to what was referred to in 1968 as “Hong Kong flu”, which, needless to say, didn’t involve closing schools or shutting down businesses or imposing stay-at-home orders. As an article in the American Institute for Economic Research pointed out, Woodstock took place during that flu outbreak. And the Telegraph ran a similar piece yesterday, pointing out that the British authorities responded to the same pandemic without over-reacting, recommending hand-washing and social distancing at work but nothing more. Both pieces drew on an article in the British Medical Journal by a retired professor of medicine called Philip Philip Snashall, whose two-year-old daughter was the first known case of Hong Kong flu to hit Europe. “How things change,” he noted. “The stock market did not plummet, we were not besieged by the press, men in breathing apparatus did not invade my daughter’s play group.”

It’s not all bad news in today’s papers. The Mail on Sunday reports that the Royal College of GPs and the British Medical Association have warned the Government against quarantining healthy people aged 70 and over when the lockdown is eased – and a furious row has broken out between Matt Hancock and the Sunday Times, which has the same story, in which the Health Secretary disputes that quarantining the elderly for 12 weeks is official Government policy. “The clinically vulnerable, who are advised to stay in lockdown for 12 weeks, emphatically DO NOT include all over 70s,” he tweeted above a screen grab of the Sunday Times‘s front page.

Here’s a quick round up of stories that have stood out for me, and been flagged up by readers, in the past 24 hours:

In what may be becoming a series, here’s another letter in the Telegraph about the wrongful diagnosis of COVID-19 as the cause of death in a care home:

Sir – My mother died last week in a care home at the age of 98. When my brother registered her death, as expected the cause given was “frailty due to old age”, but he was surprised to see that the doctor certifying the death had added “presumed COVID-19”, an inclusion that also shocked the home’s manager.

The day before our mother died, my brother was allowed to sit with her for an hour. His temperature was checked before he was admitted, but there was no form of isolation and none of the home’s staff were wearing personal protective equipment.

If doctors are attributing all deaths in care homes to COVID-19, it makes a nonsense of any statistics and does great reputational damage to both individual care homes and to the care industry as a whole.

Tony Parkinson, Christchurch, Dorset

And for a bit of light relief, there’s a story in the Sunday Times about how the lockdown has given an unexpected boon to amateur pornographers (‘Debbie does lockdown: coronavirus home porn goes viral‘.) “Data from Pornhub, the world’s most popular video-sharing website, suggests COVID-19 is far from a turn-off for libidos inflamed by the sight of a mask or the thought of a police officer hiding in the bushes,” says the paper. “It has reported more than 8.2 million searches for videos about ‘quarantine’, with overall viewership up by about 25% since lockdowns were introduced.’ Wannabe porn stars have to apply to be verified by the website, but after they’ve received Pornhub’s imprimatur they can then upload their videos and are paid when the clips are viewed. The site now boasts more than 165,000 amateur performers, up 41% in the past year. According to the Sunday Times: “Popular themes in the coronavirus genre include ‘doctors and nurses’ inspecting ‘patients’; women performing sexual acts in return for loo paper or dried pasta; and police officers turning up at opportune moments.”

Another candidate for Hero of the Week has been nominated by a reader: Plants Galore, a company that has garden centres in Plymouth, Exeter and Newton Abbott. Not only has this company defied the lockdown order, arguing that their garden centres are also hardware stores and therefore should be exempt, it has also started a petition to try and stop the local council shutting down its outlets. The petition has already attracted over 3,500 signatures, including mine. Thanks to CBird for flagging this up in the comment thread below yesterday’s Latest News.

Readers have suggested more theme tunes for the site: ‘Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now‘ by the Smiths, ‘No Restrictions‘ by Men at Work, Thomas Tallis’s ‘Spem Alium‘ by Stile Antico and ‘I’m a Lazy Sod‘ by the Sex Pistols.

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Pebbles
Pebbles
6 years ago

The Robert Koch Institute in Germany is about as trustworthy as the Imperial College Model by Prof Ferguson (NB: they both are on the Gates’ IV money drip). The RKI started off with a “every deceased is a Corona fatality” message in March and officially recommended not to conduct any autopsy postmortems due to fear of spreading the virus despite the clear necessity for postmortems to understand the true fatality rate and impact on the human body.
A pathologist in Hamburg, Prof. Püschel, decided to go ahead with autopsies anyway in early April and went on national television saying that the autopsies prove that hardly anyone seems to be dying OF but WITH the virus as a passenger. Note that in the last few weeks, the RKI has since back paddled significantly and reversed its original statements about autopsies…
The most significant difference in the Coronavirus crisis between the UK and the continent/Germany seems to be the number of German, Swiss and Austrian doctors who are very vocal about the disproportionality of the Coronavirus measures versus the lethality of the disease – according to their findings and research – similar to their US colleagues; the UK seems to have put… Read more »

guy153
guy153
6 years ago

Good news! Tesco now have so much pasta they’re selling it cheap. Time to start stockpiling for that second wave.

ShropshireLass
ShropshireLass
6 years ago

Interesting article on a potential anti-inflammatory drug treatment for coronavirus, currently being trialled in several countries. By Cade Metz published in The New York Times, 30th April entitled ‘How A.I. Steered Doctors Toward a Possible Coronavirus Treatment’. Here is the link if Toby or anyone is interested:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/30/technology/coronavirus-treatment-benevolentai-baricitinib.html?fbclid=IwAR3lwNCuIr_jgp0RFptzSh9Y_Lf97GJ36mIyK3Htg7tQpKs__13ZKE8KPnE

tides
tides
6 years ago

Hope to God no one in authority in the UK sees this. They may not realise it is satirical.

https://babylonbee.com/news/governor-unveils-innovative-37-step-plan-to-reopen-state-over-the-next-10-years

Paul Cuddon
Paul Cuddon
6 years ago

See figure 2

swedenborg
swedenborg
6 years ago
Reply to  Paul Cuddon

The full lockdown in Germany 22nd March.Sensible, non economical suicidial, social distancing measures started 13th March

Paul Cuddon
Paul Cuddon
6 years ago

Clearest data yet (from Germany) that infections were already on the way down before lockdown. Why are we continuing with this madness?
https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/2020-05-03-en.pdf?__blob=publicationFile

Paul Cuddon
Paul Cuddon
6 years ago
Reply to  Paul Cuddon

See figure 2

swedenborg
swedenborg
6 years ago
Reply to  Paul Cuddon

Fascinating figures.Look at the deaths.We have all heard that female deaths less in all countries and that is true also in Germany between 70-90.But in 90-100 years old ,double amount of female deaths compared to males. There must be some explanation like fewer males in that age interval unless former surviving members in the Reichs army had a health advantage

swedenborg
swedenborg
6 years ago
Reply to  Paul Cuddon

Completely agree. A puzling thing is that in the former DDR much less cases and the same in all the Eastern European countries. There has been speculation that they all had enormous vaccination with BCG for tuberculosis giving some cross immunity.

Oaks79
Oaks79
6 years ago

The more I think of this the more angry I get at this government, I mean if their plan was for “herd immunity” and the Swedish route why wasn’t the Nightingales being built at the end of February/beginning of March ? The Swedes knew their strategy back in January so I’m guessing SAGE did too, so why the hell wasn’t the NHS ramped up as soon as the shit hit the fan in Italy ? Every man and his dog knew this was heading our way so if your plan was to sit it out and go for herd immunity wouldn’t you get that plan rolling at the earliest point you could ? If they would have done that I’ll probably still have a job.

old fred
old fred
6 years ago
Reply to  Oaks79

Vice website has a good account of the things Boris was, and wasn’t, doing at the start of the year. Missing 5 Cobra meetings was one of them, holidaying in Mustique another. Apparently he is very good at not doing things. Sorry to hear about you losing your job.

guy153
guy153
6 years ago
Reply to  Oaks79

Yes absolutely right. They should have doubled the number of ICU beds in January (not 10x but doubled because we’re undercapacity anyway), made sure they had all the PPE ready etc. This way they would have got through the peak without overwhelming the system and without even a short lockdown.

As it was, if we needed the lockdown down at all, 3 weeks would have been enough anyway. But even 3 weeks of lockdown is hugely more expensive than preparing properly in time would have been.

But now we’re getting at least two months of lockdown for no reason at all than for Johnson to make people think he’s warm and caring and not the flippant git he may have come across as when this started.

It’s completely shameless irresponsible populism, which is how this bunch of thugs got into power in the first place.

Paul Seale
Paul Seale
6 years ago
Reply to  guy153

The NHS and the public sector in general exists only to protect itself.

Mark Hunter
Mark Hunter
6 years ago
Reply to  Oaks79

The element that grinds my gears the most is “protect the NHS”. It’s the NHS’s job to protect us. We give it £134 billion per year to do this. The NHS knew about the virus at the same time we did. The NHS knew all about Italy, etc. So, why didn’t it impotently sit back and not prepare earlier, as you rightly ask?

We’re being told to delay our cancer tests, stay at home, lose our jobs all to protect the biggest employer in Europe, whose single job – asides from hiring equality managers at £51,000 per year – is to protect our health, especially in the time of a pandemic.

ds
ds
6 years ago

I too have been perplexed and enraged by the insanity of the public policy response to CV19. Reading Lockdown Sceptics gives me a daily fix of sanity and honesty that I appreciate greatly given how much distortion and misinformation there is about. After the lunatic and disastrous lockdown it looks like needless social distancing is going to be both draconian and never ending. Why, from the start, was a selective approach not taken, focused on high risk groups and their families. Even if that affected 25% of the population that would have been better than locking everybody up and shutting down 90% of the economy. Neil Ferguson, who was at the same college as me at Oxford in the early 1990s, neglected to model selective shielding of high risk people and their families. He, and the likes of Matt Hancock, should be locked up and we should throw away the key.

Amy
Amy
6 years ago
Reply to  ds

I live in the US but every time I see Matt Hancock the phrase that immediately comes to mind is “lean and hungry look.”

old fred
old fred
6 years ago

Daily deaths in Spain, France and Italy are now declining rapidly, with the UK likely to be doing so in another week or two. It appears the outbreak will have lasted for around 12 weeks in each country before things return to normal.

Is it too much to hope that MSM hysteria will follow a similar pattern so that we can all get back to normal life?

Paul Seale
Paul Seale
6 years ago
Reply to  old fred

I don’t know about anyone else but life as we knew it before this is a distant memory and I don’t think we’re ever going back to it.

IanE
IanE
6 years ago
Reply to  Paul Seale

Given the state to which the economy has been trashed and the accumulating excess deaths (cancer, heart attacks, etc) that will have been caused by the absurd, dystopian and tyrannical lockdown (to quote Steve Baker), let alone the terror that has been instilled in the sheeple, I rather agree!

Gracie Knoll
Gracie Knoll
6 years ago
Reply to  old fred

There are basically TWO urgent messages to get “out there” to the British sheeple (including the ovine MSM):

1) THIS VIRUS IS NOT THE BLACK DEATH. At worst, it’s the equivalent of the 1968 Hong Kong flu. WE GOT THROUGH THAT ONE WITHOUT LOCKDOWN. (Doctors, virologists, immunologists, medical statisticians and epidemiologists – stand up and be counted!)

2) THE LOCKDOWN WILL TRASH THE ECONOMY, COLLAPSE THE NHS, REMOVE CIVIL RIGHTS, AND CAUSE FAR MORE DEATHS THAN THE VIRUS.
(Economists, psychologists, sociologists and lawyers – stand up and be counted!)

As Basil Fawlty would have said, “it’s not a proposition from Wittgenstein!”

old fred
old fred
6 years ago
Reply to  Gracie Knoll

Yes – Hong Kong Flu was a nothing event in late ‘60’s. Herd immunity developed, all without panic & lockdown. Interesting that the prof from Israel (forgotten his name) reckons Australia, Israel, New Zealand have taken the wrong action and likely to suffer later on.

scuzzaman
scuzzaman
6 years ago

“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

The thing is, it doesn’t matter if you deserve it or not. If you give up your freedom to obtain safety, you simply don’t get either one.

Let’s leave what people deserve to the moral philosophers and let’s talk about how reality actually works, in the light of what we know about how people and the systems of government we create really behave. The biggest problem in this whole lock-down farce is that people are building fake realities based on errant models and childish fantasies of safety, instead of dealing with how reality actually works.

guy153
guy153
6 years ago
Reply to  scuzzaman

I think this is a strong practical argument in favour of liberty generally. Governments are pretty hopeless and should stick to the basics. What’s happening in the UK is fairly typical: we’re spending millions on unused ventilators, PPE, tracking software, no doubt lots of other crap, that will all be too late, and billions on a lockdown that achieved next to nothing, while the politicians use most of their energy trying to pretend it was all fine and they knew what they were doing, and even extending it and making it considerably worse just to make a point. The epidemic has just done its thing and really isn’t bothered by any of this.

Even more disturbing was how in the early days “liberal” pundits were praising China for their approach of locking people up and trying to beat the virus out of them. The whole culture of lockdowns seems to have originated with people copying China– but we only have their word for it that achieved anything.

Italy were the first to copy them perhaps out of initially understandable panic, but then everyone else joined in, and it just became the thing to do. People were asking “why not a… Read more »

BrianJR
BrianJR
6 years ago

Just found this on the Telegraph site, and a quick google finds plenty of press coverage for it.
I will be tuning in today.

Rival Sage committee to make case for use of facemasks and quicker end to lockdown
Chaired by Professor Sir David King, the group will stage a press conference to be broadcast on Youtube before the Government’s briefing

BrianJR
BrianJR
6 years ago
Reply to  BrianJR

mmm, bit unsure on the purpose actually. Telegraph implies the aim is to end lockdown earlier, but Guardian implies it is to keep lockdown longer.
It will likely be censored / removed by YouTube if it doesn’t fit the government narrative anyway.

Karen
Karen
6 years ago

Guardian article suggests very sinister facial recognition plan being hatched by the Uk Gov:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/03/coronavirus-health-passports-for-uk-possible-in-months

Clearly has no connection to testing, why would a workplace receptionist who you see EVERY DAY need to rely on a government system to know who you are? We need to make it very clear that we will not tolerate this.

Sceptic
Sceptic
6 years ago
Reply to  Karen

They must have the technology to see through masks!

Rick
Rick
6 years ago

Holy sh*t, I am a proud remainer but now I find myself having to agree with Tory Steve Baker of all people, he’s put a good article in the telegraph on 3rd May. Shows how the damage lockdown is doing has really warped the world.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/05/03/boris-johnson-must-end-absurd-dystopian-tyrannical-lockdown2/

BecJT
BecJT
6 years ago
Reply to  Rick

I feel your pain brother, we’re a broad church us sceptics.

IanE
IanE
6 years ago
Reply to  BecJT

Yup – only requirement (admittedly rare) is a functioning brain

old fred
old fred
6 years ago
Reply to  Rick

I echo your sentiments entirely. It will be Mark Francois next! ( although I do prefer the other one on Twitter i.e Mark ne Francois pas.)

RDawg
RDawg
6 years ago

Just sent the following to my MP. Feel free to copy, paste and share widely. Good luck everyone!

Dear Munira Wilson MP,

I am writing to express my deep concerns regarding the continuation of the restrictions on our freedom of movement and forced closure of businesses, otherwise known as “lockdown”. These actions were based on nothing less than science fiction, which originated from Imperial College’s false modelling and the predictions led by Professor Neil Ferguson’s non peer-reviewed unpublished paper, produced on 16th March 2020. His model was based on false assumptions, and relied on assuming a virus mortality rate which we now know was 10 times higher than has found to be the actual IFR.

Prof. Ferguson’s history of pandemic modelling, has been nothing less than disastrous, overblown nonsense. To remind you of Neil Ferguson’s estimates on the impact of previous viral outbreaks – which have been embarrassingly inaccurate: He was previously instrumental in modelling that led to the cull of more than 6 million animals during the foot and mouth outbreak in 2001, which left rural Britain economically devastated. In 2002, he predicted that mad cow disease could kill up to 50,000 people. It ended up killing less than… Read more »

Kevin Moore
Kevin Moore
6 years ago
Reply to  RDawg

Hi, I sent something similar to my MP last week. They did reply but it just felt like it had been copied and pasted from the party line, ‘protect our NHS, mantra. I’d be interested to hear your response. Sadly, a veil of fear and deceit has been pulled over the eyes of many and it doesn’t appear to be lifting any time soon if the latest polls are anything to go by.

RDawg
RDawg
6 years ago
Reply to  Kevin Moore

Well done Kevin. I simply cannot sit back and do nothing. When I look back on this in years to come, I want to know I did everything I possibly could to challenge this illegal lockdown.

kvnmoore561
kvnmoore561
6 years ago
Reply to  RDawg

Me too!

Gracie Knoll
Gracie Knoll
6 years ago
Reply to  Kevin Moore

Ok.

There seem to be two ways out of this.

1) A growing, indeed exponential realisation of the dire situation we now face – not from the virus, but from the lockdown.

Mainstream media journalists and broadcasters might possibly begin to realise that their constant fearmongering is not only going to eliminate their own jobs, but is trashing their children’s, grandchildren’s and great-grandchildren’s futures. They will have to change the narrative – FAST – or accept these consequences.

Ditto for the futures of the families of doctors, virologists, epidemiologists, microbiologists, economists, psychologists, sociologists and lawyers. They can speak out – SOON – or accept the ruination of their descendents’ lives.

Ditto for politicians. Speak up. Now.

If enough break ranks and speak up, we can get out of this, and quickly.

2) None of the above happens. The country is f***ed.

Anyone think of a (3)?

BecJT
BecJT
6 years ago
Reply to  Gracie Knoll

3) Civil unrest, further draconian measures, fascism and then a European war as we all blame each other, and we end up in a Mad Max Movie? In all seriousness, I hope the kids wake up, this is their future, they should demand it back.

IanE
IanE
6 years ago
Reply to  Gracie Knoll

3) I am inside a virtual reality imposed to destroy my psyche and punish me for what must have been some appalling crime in Real Reality.

wendyk
wendyk
6 years ago
Reply to  IanE

Welcome to The Matrix

wendyk
wendyk
6 years ago
Reply to  Gracie Knoll

A break up of the UK,as the SNP sizes its chance. Cue

giblets
giblets
6 years ago
Reply to  RDawg

Thanks, I’ve used this as a template, I added more detail on the extra deaths at the beginning as this seems to be the only figure people are interested in

“These restrictions (otherwise known as “lockdown”) are based on wildly exaggerated numbers of deaths, are sold to us on the premise that they will save lives, and despite repeated repetition, there is NO evidence to support the supposition that staying at home does save lives, in fact it is leading to more deaths… The NHS has four times as many empty Acute beds as normal (patients who were previously considered ill enough they needed to be in hospital are now not getting this care) and there are still plenty of spare ICU capacity, with thousands of Nightingale hospital beds sitting empty. In fact the desire to push these Acutely unwell patients into the community has exacerbate the COVID deaths (there was not requirement to test them for COVID before sending back to care home!).

In April alone there were 25,000 fewer cancer referrals (and not doubt an equal or greater number of cancelled consultations), which will lead to disease progression and thousands of extra, early deaths. This has been… Read more »

wendyk
wendyk
6 years ago
Reply to  RDawg

This is brilliant RDawg. Would you consider plugging this in the mainstream MSM as well? Howw about Guido Fawkes?

https://order-order.com/

ChrisH29
ChrisH29
6 years ago
Reply to  RDawg

Excellent letter, well put.

I would add one thought though. The lockdown was not intended to save lives at the outset, it was intended merely to ‘flatten the curve’ to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed. The problem that you elucidate has been made worse by the fact that the powers that be have realised that their decisions were wrong, the virus is just another flu-like illness of similar lethality and that they were misled by in-expert ghouls peddling imbecilic models.

Rather than explaining to us all that they took the conservative approach relying on what they thought was good but turned out to be bad information, they have now decided to double-down on their rhetoric and terror campaign in the vain hope that we don’t notice.

They are wrong, when this is all done and dusted and we find out, as we surely will, the reality of this and the cost in lives and money, they will not be forgiven.

ianp
ianp
6 years ago

Can this be the laugh out loud link of the day…. ?may 3rd entry.. What a gem!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52506114

Spike in accidents due to this risible thursday clapathon…. Peak Darwin award? Can this situation get any more surreal?

Farinances
Farinances
6 years ago
Reply to  ianp

Maybe when they end up in hospital they’ll see how EMPTY it is. Silver linings…..

wendyk
wendyk
6 years ago
Reply to  ianp

This is like Taking Over The Asylum

ianp
ianp
6 years ago

Oh lord help us. Having not used Facebook for a long time due to the number of virtuous narcissistic pricks that inhabit it on a daily basis (yes that’s a hell of a load of people who I am supposedly ‘friends’ with), I decide to have a look today at people trying to outdo each other as ‘martyr of the day’ : answer = still lots. Fb even provide ‘photo frames’ for your pic with a number of lovely little status GIFs like #stayathome #stayingin. How crass. I looked at the list and not one for #endthelockdown sadly, or anything remotely like it. This is what the world has come to, debate is squashed, dissent is futile.

BecJT
BecJT
6 years ago
Reply to  ianp

I’ve been deactivated on and off for weeks, did a two week stint and looked today (had to for a local campaign page I manage unrelated to this) and I’m spotting a few more asking questions, but mostly not. I post the odd cat picture to check everybody hasn’t unfollowed me (they haven’t, they like cats) but when I post ‘Nobel Prize Winning Scientist says Lockdown a disaster’ – not a sausage. What troubles me is my lefty mates won’t touch that with a barge pole because it’s ‘right wing’, it is so frustrating, when did caring about the bloody poor or listening to scientists who aren’t Neil Ferguson become ‘right wing’?? But this is why I’m anxious the sceptical argument remains a broad church, we need to tempt the lurkers into the fray, those that are nervous that supporting our argument is not ‘right on’. It annoys me, but I know enough about campaigning to know you can’t bludgeon people into agreeing with you, you have to take them up the ‘yes ladder’. My technique is obviously still rubbish, cos they are still on the bottom rung thinking I’m a granny killer …

Adele Bull
Adele Bull
6 years ago
Reply to  ianp

I just looked at the FB comments under the daily government mantra and they are shocking! People are scared to death but not looking at the facts. I just keep posting the CEBM link on the posts in the hope people will read them!

Farinances
Farinances
6 years ago
Reply to  Adele Bull

So glad I’ve been off social media for…..
Can’t Even remember now. But it’s been a long time. Does wonders for one’s mental health.

RDawg
RDawg
6 years ago
guy153
guy153
6 years ago
Reply to  RDawg

Meh sounds like at least he does want to basically end the lockdown. Most of the measures appear to be addressing psychological issues (facemasks so people “feel safe” that sort of thing).

It all confirms the theory that nobody really believes Fergie or is serious about trying to do TTT. This is a good thing because it’s almost certainly too late for TTT to be possible in the UK and even if it wasn’t the government are so incompetent that it is certainly much better for everyone if they don’t try.

No doubt there will be a bunch of incredibly stupid regulations that everyone will ignore. “Health theatre” as someone (it might have been you 🙂 very aptly described it.

Nel
Nel
6 years ago
Reply to  RDawg

I felt sick too

Sophie
Sophie
6 years ago

I tried to put all arguments against and pro lockdowns in one article, and came to the conclusion lockdowns are doing more harm than good. Read it here: https://link.medium.com/2Al7Ck95b6

wendyk
wendyk
6 years ago
Reply to  Sophie

This should be published elsewhere as well Sophie; it’s excellent

Gracie Knoll
Gracie Knoll
6 years ago

Just back from a dog walk with the missus. An interesting point came up in the conversation.

We wondered if many of those furloughed think that the government has some sort of “obligation” to keep paying them for as long as lockdown lasts – even if that’s another 18 months or more.

That maybe, many people simply don’t realise where this money is coming from and that there’s some sort of bottomless reserve somewhere.

That they think they’ll just walk back into their old jobs 18 months down the line, having had a lovely 18 months’ holiday.

And that therefore they don’t want this lockdown to end anytime soon.

A few months ago I would have found it inconceivable to imagine that the average Brit could be dumb enough to think the above. But now…….

Ethelred the Unready
Ethelred the Unready
6 years ago
Reply to  Gracie Knoll

Spot-on. They are using “fear” of returning to work to prevent the nice holiday ending too soon…

Scots lass
Scots lass
6 years ago

I’ve been furloughed and I’m certainly under no illusion that this is any kind of paid holiday. I feel sick that the company I have worked for for nearly 20 years, and which has been going for over 60, may not survive and even if it does there’s certainly going to be a lot of redundancies. It’s not the sort of business that will just be able to instantly brush itself down and return to pre-lockdown productivity quickly, it will take many, many months. The ensuing worldwide recession will also take its toll.

I would be able to accept the situation a lot better if I thought the government had taken the right course of action but I believe the long term consequences will cause far more harm to far more people than the virus could ever inflict. They are being very short sighted.

Ianric
Ianric
6 years ago
Reply to  Gracie Knoll

I can’t understand how workers on furlough can be complacent. You still have 20% less salary and how are people going to manage with a reduced income. I would worry if I would have a job to go back to. For instance, if I was working in a shop selling products classed as non essential and the shop couldn’t open during the lockdown, I would worry the shop would not recover from not being to trade and lay off staff when being allowed to re-open.

GetaGrip
GetaGrip
6 years ago

Corona Crap Thought For The Day:

In a New Years’ Honours list in the not too distant future:
Professor Sir Neil Ferguson

Farinances
Farinances
6 years ago
Reply to  GetaGrip

Oh hell no

Dene Bebbington
Dene Bebbington
6 years ago
Reply to  GetaGrip

IIRC he already got one for his work on Foot & Mouth.

ChrisH29
ChrisH29
6 years ago

I am becoming increasingly enraged at the wilful ignorance of many in the media intent on destroying our lives for I can discern no credible motive. Cui Bono?

I have seen little intelligent comment on the Government’s ‘testing, programme apart from ideological arguments over whether an arbitrary target was met or not.

Why are the fear mongering Twitter-trolls with 6 million followers and a dais on Breakfast TV not looking into the rationale for the Governments strategy, particularly bearing in mind that they are condemning its actions in every new Tweet? Their entire focus appears to be to perpetuate an irrational fear of Coronavirus. In any other situation were an expert to have published an opinion on which Government policy was based these trolls would have eviscerated the advisor and the Minister responsible, but in these times they completely ignore Ferguson and his discredited and absurd prognostication in favour of spreading the same narrative as though he had been correct, namely mass death on an industrial scale, rather then one following the path and severity of seasonal flu.

The Government has instigated a massive testing programme, which appears to be little more than a PR exercise that will do little… Read more »

Farinances
Farinances
6 years ago
Reply to  ChrisH29

A+++ couldn’t agree more with everything you’ve said

Nel
Nel
6 years ago
Reply to  ChrisH29

Yep, my mobile will be there alongside yours!

Steve Austin
Steve Austin
6 years ago

It’s a nasty virus not The Black Death.
It will kill the vulnerable (As Flu does every year and look up the 1968 pandemic)
The Govt panicked, having been given duff statistics by ONE dodgy scientist with a poor track record.
MSM have panicked the gullible sheep by preaching their 24/7 fear laden message of death and destruction.
Govt are weak (Boris has done himself no favours whatsoever)
Govt are starting to realise they have cocked up and are now struggling to find a way to back down.
The stats are being manipulated.
In the meantime the economy is going to be f****d and ironically more people will eventually die as a result of this, than will die of Coronavirus.
Let’s act sensibly, take sensible precautions (as we did at the start), get back to work and go and have a pint afterwards. Life is for living.

This is Steve Austin, reporting for the ‘I’m not a sheep and refuse to clap for the NHS on a Thursday’ and no. I’m not moving off the footpath, common sense news channel.

T. Prince
T. Prince
6 years ago
Reply to  Steve Austin

“One of Ferguson’s models predicted that 65,000 people could die from swine flu. In the event, no more than 500 died”.

Shouldn’t that have sounded alarm bells? Do our cowardly politicians know how to ask the right questions?

Jane Darrall
Jane Darrall
6 years ago
Reply to  Steve Austin

Join the discussion…I also refuse to clap for the NHS! What idiots so many in the UK have turned out to be. I’m ashamed to be British! Just think what we could have been doing with these weeks if we weren’t imprisoned. I’m feeling my grip on sanity is being eroded-& I’m an intelligent, fit woman! All life involves risk. Let intelligent commonsense & personal choice prevail

Oaks79
Oaks79
6 years ago

First French case may have been back in December 27th, didn’t Itailan press claim their first case might have been in December too.

https://twitter.com/cecileollivier/status/1256966423919935491?s=19

Farinances
Farinances
6 years ago
Reply to  Thunderchild

He’s amazing. I wish he was my grandad.

Jane
Jane
6 years ago
Reply to  Farinances

Personally I’d rather he was the PM

JASA
JASA
6 years ago
Reply to  Thunderchild

Excellent article.

Thunderchild
Thunderchild
6 years ago

It is clear that the government still wants to stoke up plenty of fear to ensure that we are sufficiently submissive for whatever happens next. Face masks perpetuate the idea of an out of control virus which is literally everywhere and the stories about people being afraid to leave lockdown simply encourage people to continue to be afraid. And so it goes on.

kvnmoore561
kvnmoore561
6 years ago

Thanks again Toby. Still no news on the Robert Kok petition, it’s still showing as pending. It must be nearly three weeks now!

Barry
Barry
6 years ago
Reply to  kvnmoore561

Starting to look pretty suspicious, I check it every day.

Kevin Moore
Kevin Moore
6 years ago
Reply to  Barry

Agreed, why is it taking so long unless they want to censor it?

wendyk
wendyk
6 years ago
Reply to  wendyk

https://youtu.be/jySfU10IQu4

And this: The Importance of Being Idle

Biker
Biker
6 years ago

If i can work 36 hours a week in a supermarket then i can go to the pub and the football, i can visit my old man, i can race my dirt bike. No lockdown for me or my wife and daughter who all work in the same supermarket. I call those who are staying home cowards and those who clap the NHS braindead zombies who’d let our country become a dictatorship resulting in the likes of me having to fight for my freedom and, perversely, their’s too. They sicken my to my core.

wendyk
wendyk
6 years ago
Reply to  Biker

We need more stalwarts like you with your good sense and robust independence-good on you!

Mark Hunter
Mark Hunter
6 years ago
Reply to  Biker

Well said, mate.

Fiery
Fiery
6 years ago
Reply to  Biker

I have a zero hours contract in social care and am more than happy to work at the moment as Im getting more hours than I can cope with. It means I can get out of the house for hours then have a nice drive home on empty roads. The clapping for theNHS and carers needs to stop though. Personally I find it patronising and condescending.

Farinances
Farinances
6 years ago
Reply to  Fiery

Thanks for what you’re doing 🙂
Like….. That’s all that needs to be said really, isn’t it? All the tokenistic seal-clapping BS only cheapens genuine sentiment

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