The last plot above is from Zoe and is hence it not spoiled by questions over PCR veracity.
Actually Zoe is even worse now. They've expanded their list of symptoms where literally even hayfever meets every criteria for being classed as SARs2.
We're well into the period where if deaths and cases WERE coupled we'd see it clearly in the graphs by now.
We have no idea what the "new" IFR or CFRs are but its likely 1 or 2 decimal places below 0.15 after vaccination.
Cases won't be touched as much as most over 37s or so have AstraZenica which every study out shows is pretty useless at preventing infection with the Indian variant (roughly 59.8% vs 88% for mRNA).
So going forward we can expect some of the highest case rates in the developed world long term but little to no death.
The last plot above is from Zoe and is hence it not spoiled by questions over PCR veracity.
Actually Zoe is even worse now. They've expanded their list of symptoms where literally even hayfever meets every criteria for being classed as SARs2.
In a strange way, the disparity between claimed cases and the low number of deaths is making stringent restrictions look ridiculous. No matter how you count it, deaths are running at less than 1 in a thousand cases. Case counting inflation is now working in favour of sceptics, by making the virus equivalent to mumps or the flu. Or less lethal in absolute terms than chip-pan fires, drowning, or getting strangled by your own mother's apron strigs FFS!
With respect to my last example, the case that we have a nanny state is getting stronger each day, when will there be a legal limit on the length of our Apron Strings?
Will Aprons with strings be outlawed? Or will chip pans get chopped?
It's gone too far for too long. Way too far.
Cases won't be touched as much as most over 37s or so have AstraZenica which every study out shows is pretty useless at preventing infection with the Indian variant (roughly 59.8% vs 88% for mRNA).
Ah the standard Splatt whine about AZ, which might well be correct, but the AZ certiainly keeps people out of hospital, which counts for a lot:
Ah the standard Splatt whine about AZ, which might well be correct, but the AZ certainly keeps people out of hospital, which counts for a lot:
Which is what i said, its useless against cases.
Ultimately like it or not cases drive every major governments policy, the UK and abroad.
We're seeing UK passport holders and flights banned from countries entirely due to cases.
We're seeing talk of restrictions entirely due to cases.
Whether people agree with that handling or not is irrelevant, its the reality.
AZ with its 60% or so efficacy is significantly worse than the 90%+ of mRNA vaccines.
With the R0 of 617.2 at 7+ its mathematically impossible for AZ to trigger herd immunity or keep the rate down.
So while the rest of the world gets back to normal with stable and low cases, the UK will still have tens of thousands of cases a day and suffer restrictions and issues for another 6-12 months until they get everyone onto alternative vaccines.
It makes zero sense at all to vaccinate anyone non vulnerable with AstraZenica as ultimately you need to give every one of those an mRNA booster later on. Its a waste of time and resources. Just give them mRNA initially and be done with it.
Second study now showing similar figures.
59.8% v 87.9%
Not even the 95%CIs overlap at all.
In other words, its second rate by a massive margin.
