Rogan won by a knockout. His podcasts are HUGE. His reach is ENORMOUS.
Joe Rogan is a very experienced broadcaster and an independent thinker. He was obviously extremely annoyed that CNN had made fun of him for taking Ivermectin to treat Covid & referred to the drug (which can be used as an anti-parasitic drug in humans & animals) as "horse de-wormer". So, Rogan invited Sanjay Gupta MD, who is a neurosurgeon and also acts as CNN's chief medical consultant onto his program. Gupta appears to have massively misjudged Rogan's mood and ability to debate. Time & again Gupta was made to look like the spineless, liberal, "medical" mouthpiece for the globalist elite that he undoubtedly is. I hope his usefulness for the appalling CNN has been permanently damaged. It made me feel a lot better watching him squirm.
Here is the arch Leftist Jimmy Dore (one of the few honest Leftists) reviewing the exchanges. Pretty funny.