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Anyone know how to get hold of hydroxychloroquine without prescription in the UK?

try ebay.

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Anyone know how to get hold of hydroxychloroquine without prescription in the UK?

Watched Pandemic Podcast interview with Patrick Holford.
If I understood him correctly, Quercetin does a similar job to HCQ. (You might need to verify - I'm no expert....)

Meanwhile, I'm sharing this petition here just in case it hasn't been done already.

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....and I forgot to put in the link..

http://chng.it/v9DSGsJ9xc

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Not yet.
Some pretty poor trials lacking in any useful robust techniques which are then amplified by fairly poor methodology meta-studies of those same trials.

There are some weak "suggestions" of some effects but noting solid.

It needs proper, robust clinical trials (such as REACT) to pull out any possible benefit.

That's not to say it doesn't do anything - its that there's nothing robust out there to suggest it DOES.

Ivermectin proved so successful in clinical trials, as a prophylactic and a treatment (almost 90% success) clinical trials had to be stopped because it was unethical to continue to let people taking the Placebo die.

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The data has been analysed and found fallen short.

There are so many things wrong it'd be thrown out as junk by any reputable peer reviewer or journal.
No normalisation of groups, no blind or double blinding, no consistency in treatment regime. No consistency in measurement of effects.
No consistency or normalisation of control groups.

Its a hatchet job analysis built on top of very unreliable data.

This is why its not accepted anywhere at all and wont be until we get data of a robust enough quality to pass clinical trials

That IS addressing the evidence. The studies are so badly done they are not and cannot be accepted by any reputable peer review.

Which begs the question, if the data is supposed to be that good, why is it so hard for them to actually implement and pass a proper clinical trial protocol?

And no, it not "big pharma" nonsense.

Early treatment 81% [62‑91%] 18 175 1,942
Late treatment 43% [27‑56%] 20 143 6,831
Prophylaxis 88% [78‑93%] 12 77 7,011
Mortality 76% [58‑86%] 18 155 7,267
RCTs only 66% [49‑78%] 26 231 3,618
All studies 73% [64‑79%] 50 395 15,784

https://ivmmeta.com

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