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Surely this is now the end of vaccine passports?

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JockCovidiot
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59163899

"In clinical trials the pill, originally developed to treat flu, cut the risk of hospitalisation or death by about half.

Health secretary Sajid Javid said the treatment was a "gamechanger" for the most frail and immunosuppressed.

In a statement he said: "Today is a historic day for our country, as the UK is now the first country in the world to approve an antiviral that can be taken at home for Covid."

So if the vulnerable now have had 3 doses of vaccine and now have a pill that cuts risk by another 50% then surely this "pandemic" is over and we can go back to normal no?

What you got to say Thinksaboutnuthin?

Surely now we have effective preventative (vaxx) and now treatment (magic pill above) there is now no point (not that there ever was) in vaccine status certification?

Why are we still gonna coerce and force people into jabs? Why?

Still it's all just a conspiracy right PMSL. If the vaxx passes do not dissappear now (they won't) then it PROVES unequivocally that none of this pish has been anything to do with a virus or public health!

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 TTT
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Posted by: @jockcovidiot

 

Surely now we have effective preventative (vaxx) and now treatment (magic pill above) there is now 

 

Admitting that vaccines are effective is excellent. Well done.

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Posted by: @thinksaboutit
Posted by: @jockcovidiot

 

Surely now we have effective preventative (vaxx) and now treatment (magic pill above) there is now 

 

Admitting that vaccines are effective is excellent. Well done.

"are effective is excellent. " yes it is guood , esp as   it all helps to have anotrher product  of scientific reasearch! here's anorher from pfizer //www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59178291

 

ggod luck wirh the anti-vaxx hogwash.

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@thinksaboutit yes, it took some beating in, but some of the  cretins are slowly getting the message , it  take time to work in.

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@thinksaboutit so good, you need to have three of them in 11 months in order to save Christmas. By any rational, long-standing definition of "vaccine" which includes conferring long-lasting immunity these jabs do not qualify as vaccines. 

I laughed at the idiocy when Trump spoke about injecting oneself with bleach. 

Frankly, on reflection, one might as well.

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JockCovidiot
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@coronanationstreet 

@thinksaboutit

Soooooo good the CEO of NHS England has to stand and lie on national television about case numbers of covid to scare people into coming fourth to get stabbed for a third time PMSL 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 

14 times as many in hospital compared to last year mind even with our world beating vaccination programme 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 

Sorry but nah just cannot take this shit seriously anymore its pathetic the lengths the vaxx zealots will go utter 🤡 world

Thinksaboutnuffin et al sorry but Amanda ended it with her blatant lie its over. Proof positive those in the NHS and Gov will LIE about anything to push the vaccines. It has invalidated all of your arguments and any rubbish from you will be met with 2 words AMANDA PRITCHARD!

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History tells us jab passports were planned by the EU long before this virus was released...sorry...escaped...sorry...jumped from a bat onto a pork chop and then into an unsuspecting Chinese shopper who then collapsed in the street and died, mysteriously whilst being filmed at the exact time of death by Chinese Communist Party propaganda agents. 

It then headed around the world on a rainbow coloured pangolin which was part of Wild Buffalo Fauci's travelling circus and which could infect people simply by looking at them. It was so bad, 1 in 3 people who didn't even look at the pangolin caught the virus and killed their own grandmothers by beathing on them over Zoom.

Jab passports were and are a policy the EU and others in the world want whether or not there are any other treatments for this or anything. 

 

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JockCovidiot
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@coronanationstreet 

I agree 100%. I know as you do the obedience passports were the goal all along. My point is most people still believe that to be a conspiracy!

Point is we are now at the stage where no one with half a brain cell can insist that we are wrong and that the obedience passes are genuinely to prevent covid.

There will be lurkers here taking the first tentative steps to waking up. These posts are for them. And to stick it to the resident vaxx zealots/covidian cultists like thinksaboutfuckall LOL

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Posted by: @jockcovidiot

@coronanationstreet 

I agree 100%. I know as you do the obedience passports were the goal all along. My point is most people still believe that to be a conspiracy!

Point is we are now at the stage where no one with half a brain cell can insist that we are wrong and that the obedience passes are genuinely to prevent covid.

There will be lurkers here taking the first tentative steps to waking up. These posts are for them. And to stick it to the resident vaxx zealots/covidian cultists like thinksaboutfuckall LOL

What will you say when the pandemic finally subsides and all the preventative measures are removed? (as most already have been )

Should sink you conspiracy theory!

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JockCovidiot
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@thinksaboutit 

"What will you say when the pandemic finally subsides and all the preventative measures are removed? (as most already have been )"

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 

What preventative measures have been removed? Here we are 20 months in with a vaxx and magic pill and yet :-

Masks are still legally required everywhere.

Obedience passports are here with talks already of "extending" their use (already extended in wales). Soon to be required for everything including your job!

No jab no job for care staff.

No jab no job for NHS staff soon.

Still great difficulty in seeing a GP face to face.

Still no "non urgent" hospital appointments.

Still huge restrictions on travel.

Even with waning cases and the magic vaxx and pill we here nothing but demands from "experts" for more restrictions! Plan B/C/D.... whatever it is so long as it involves more restrictions.

Still talks of targetted "local" lockdowns and returns to the tier system to "save the NHS"

So really the only preventative currently off the table (for now) is social distancing and full blown lockdown. So to say MOST measures have been removed is just a bald faced lie!

What do you have to say about the clear mission creep of the vaxx passes when the pandemic is clearly no longer a threat? How do you explain it?

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Posted by: @jockcovidiot

Masks are still legally required everywhere.

 

 

This is clearly not true...is it.

You can't just make stuff up.

 

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JockCovidiot
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@thinksaboutit 

It is in scotland moron. Coming soon to England when Plan A sorry Plan B is activated...

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(@ewloe)
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@jockcovidiot evidentally Scotlans is everywhere! yeah right.

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@thinksaboutit yes of course the long forgotten about one way roadmap.

Without an end date or objective criteria for removing all covid related laws.

I'll help you out here:

1. Covid vaccine mandates

2. Mandatory masks, an untested and unproven policy

3. "Vaccine passports" (really obedience licences), untested and proven to coincide with massive spikes in "cases" in other countries

Are all covid related laws. 

So yes we'll all be happy when the pandemic ends and all of these are removed forever.

But you'll have thought about it and know when that will be, right? Of course not - they are all permanent policies you crave. 

But on the off chance you have thought about it rationally, objectively and with a degree of humanity please do enlighten us with when the pandemic will be over and by which criteria.

 

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@jockcovidiot Indeed so.

Btw, I don't think the named contributor is a cultist per se, I think "they" (safest pronoun..) are almost certainly a govt, jab company or NGO/QuANGO appointed agent. As you know there are several of them on here, operating under a variety of logins. 

One previous contributor was obviously so, in that the quality of English used varied wildly depending on which hour of the night/day which suggested to me they were operating in completely different time zones.

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JockCovidiot
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@coronanationstreet 

Most definately said contributor is an obvious shill/troll. The contributor offers nothing to the debate and does not ever engage unless to spout nonsense or to provoke reaction.

None of the vaxx zealots or stooges on here engage in debate. They just spout the narrative and when challenged just ignore or resort to anti-vaxx or conspiracy nut slurs and insults.

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Posted by: @jockcovidiot

@coronanationstreet 

Most definately said contributor is an obvious shill/troll

agree whoeheartedly RichardTechnich, obvsly, along  with miahoneybee, speedstick and and star. Crazy timewasters all of them. Good Riddance to bad rubbish. but fon, pure genius, right down the line.

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Posted by: @jockcovidiot

@coronanationstreet 

Most definately said contributor is an obvious shill/troll. The contributor offers nothing to the debate and does not ever engage unless to spout nonsense or to provoke reaction.

None of the vaxx zealots or stooges on here engage in debate. They just spout the narrative and when challenged just ignore or resort to anti-vaxx or conspiracy nut slurs and insults.

Interesting that someone who disagrees with you is defined as not engaging in the debate.

Don't you realise that if you can't persuade someone you are lost?

Also if you can't learn from someone who know better, you are lost.

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@coronanationstreet the quality of English used varied wildly depending on which hour of the night/day which suggested to me they were operating in completely different time zones.
 

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what words or grammar in English vary accoring to timezone? Perhaps you are more inebriated later in the day, and  that is a more economical explanation?

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Are your UK vax passports linked to your other data, such as all your government dealings ( welfare tax reporting etc)?

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(@coronanationstreet)
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@njt That is the aim. Benefits, tax, income, criminal record including "possible criminal activity" (thereby immediately reversing the presumption of innocence underpinning the rule of law in western democracy), which TV shows you watch, what you look at on t'internet, who you connect with (FB have been databasing people for this purpose for years now)...

It's nothing to do with jabs or a virus.

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@njt yes, of course. if data relates to you it does realte to you, that's why they call them 'Relational Database Systems', that' been true since about 1970. It is well worth looking at

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relational_database

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@ewloe it's irrelevant. It's what the data is used for, by whom and what the overriding objective is behind using it.

 

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The concept of vax passports would never have got a hold if there was an iota of logic, sanity, reason, intellectual rigour or morality within those in power! So perhaps assuming that a pill is going to have any effect is rather too positive?! 

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