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As we know, Boris issued the latest diktat on December 8 :

Prime Minister confirms move to Plan B in England

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/prime-minister-confirms-move-to-plan-b-in-england

- Face masks to become compulsory in most public indoor venues, other than hospitality

From Friday 10 December, face coverings will become compulsory in most public indoor venues, such as cinemas, theatres and places of worship. There will be exemptions in venues where it is not practical to wear one, such as when you are eating, drinking or exercising. For that reason, face masks will not be required in hospitality settings.

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Is this guidance or law ?

If law, is it by Statutory Instrument ?

If so, which one ?

Thanks.

 

 

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(@johnk)
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Here is a copy of a recent note from “Bungle”, which seems reasonable:

Just to help those who don’t seem to understand the difference between ‘inalienable’ law and temporary legislation like the government keeps throwing at us. The latter is squashed by the former. Here is what I gave to my elder grandkids two weeks ago.
The Illegality of Government Mask Mandates
Following the Nuremburg Code, The World Medical Association’s 1964, Ethical Declaration of Helsinki says: 
 “The patient’s welfare take precedence over the interests of science and society. (Art 5)”  “Ethical considerations always take precedence over laws and regulations (Art 9).”
These principles are incorporated in the 1998 Human Rights Act giving them legal status in the UK.
However, in common law, an individual is protected by inalienable rights, bestowed on every human being by nature of birth. Inalienable rights supersede government laws as per art 9 above.This is why governments cannot demand mask wearing or jabbing with experimental drugs. Nor can anyone demand your medical history for any reason.
Why governments try is not clear but, the UK website says anyone can exempt themselves if they feel distressed having to wear a mask. This has clearly been put in by lawyers trying to avoid conflict with inalienable law and no-one has ever been fined by a court of law in the UK for non-compliance.
I don’t know what I would do if I were you but I hope I would:
·        Refuse to wear a mask in school or anywhere.
·        Discuss with my fellow pupils non-compliance with mask wearing.
·        Tell teachers you respect them for their educational, not policing, skills.
·        Tell any persistent teacher, they are individually responsible if they break the law.
·        Remember that atrocities are only possible when people meekly comply.
·        Remember the example of Rosa Parks who stood alone against thousands.

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@johnk 

"Inalienable rights supersede government laws as per art 9 above."

Not in the UK they don't. There are no such things as inalienable rights in the UK, only what parliament passes, which then overrides anything in the common law or under the Royal prerogative. 

If you believe otherwise, then you will find out the hard way when you end up in jail. 

I find it astounding that anybody can believe this nonsense and post about it so confidently when it is in direct contradiction to the way UK law works - even Scots Law. 

Laws may be contradictory in the UK in which case the doctrine of implied repeal applies and newer laws override older ones if they cannot be reconciled. 

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(@mode-rna)
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Thanks you JohnK - very useful info.

legislation.gov.uk now shows a new mask related statutory instrument today :

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2021/1400/contents/made

The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Wearing of Face Coverings) (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2021

UK Statutory Instruments 2021 No. 1400 Table of contents

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(@zebedee)
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Ars Technica has used their Senior Commerce Writer to write a review of masks. The quality of the article can be ascertained by the "historical" picture of a steampunk plague doctor, there are also a couple of pictures where you can see peoples nostrils as well as the usual surgical mask with no mention that they are only designed to stop pressurised bodily fluids from entering the nose and mouth when you stab someone.

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