The British govt. is presently waging two propaganda wars at the same time.
- A war of lies on its own population about a Corona Virus that seems to be milder than flu
- A war of lies to depict the Ukraine as a free democracy (it is neither) while depicting Russia as a pariah state.
Is it wise of the government to dilute its propaganda powers by waging multiple wars of lies at once?How much lying can a govt. get away with?
So you are a fan of Putin's Russia then????
So you are a fan of Putin's Russia then????
The nearest opposition are the communists, again.
So you are a fan of Putin's Russia then????
The nearest opposition are the communists, again.
So that's a strong YES from you, then.
You obviously like brutal dictators, then.
So you are a fan of Putin's Russia then????
The nearest opposition are the communists, again.
So that's a strong YES from you, then.
You obviously like brutal dictators, then.
I'll ley you know if I ever say anything nice about Putin, I have not done so yet.
Well you have said that he is the best leader for Russia and he should be kept in power at all costs.. That is a fairly strong endorsement.
You seem to insist that this brutal dictator is better than a democratic government for Russia and by extension also for Ukraine.
All justified by a a fear of a subsequent communist government, if Put is not there.
Well you have said that he is the best leader for Russia and he should be kept in power at all costs.
I was not being nice,he's a brutal dictator, but he is solving a big problem for us, and we are stuck with him, like it or lump it. Sometimes nasty people can be very useful. He's solving our sticky Ukrainian problem without needing us to fight. So we let these two tribes of Russia sort it out between themselves, without our involvement, hopefully.
Look I do not care a fig about Russia, Ukraine, Mr. Zelensky or Putin. The Whole of Ukraine is not worth the bones of a single English Grenadier. Putin is essentially a modern Czar and he has erected a ring of steel around the Russian speaking enclave of Eastern Ukraine. The Crimea and the Donbas are now permanently removed from the possibility of Western influence, they now comprise Russia's buffer zones against NATO, they replace East Germany. And prevent all possibility of further eastward expansion of NATO. Putin's already got all that in the bag, he has stopped eastward expansion on NATO, it was a huge threat to world peace and it can no longer happen.
You seem to insist that this brutal dictator is better than a democratic government for Russia and by extension also for Ukraine.
Russia tried democracy, it died. It also died in the Ukraine, in Feb 2014, when the country underwent a Coup and divided (as it still is) into Ukrainian and Russian areas, the war just makes this permanent, while giving Putin a great chance to wreck West Ukraine and to destroy the vile Asov Battalion in Mariopol. We can Natoise what is left, without causing a nuclear confrontation. Don't worry, I think he'll leave us with Chernobyl!!!
And that, dear leek, was the start of world war 3 which did not happen! You can breathe now.
The more you write, the more approving of the Russian invasion and associated mass murder you seem to be.
You appear to believe it is a path to stability and are unconcerned about all that dangerous power in a madman with no moderating influence.
What do you imagine the end game will be for Putin trying to keep himself in power. The current dictatorship can't last forever.. what happens then?
The more you write, the more approving of the Russian invasion and associated mass murder you seem to be.
You ask good questions. I can offer no opinion on the overall wisdom or benefits or otherwise of Putin's current decisions, only time will tell on that. It is still too soon to know. In terms of murder, Blair and Bush caused a million deaths in Iraq. Focus on that for a minute.
I can offer you this though as a gift , all American money-oriented foreign policy interventions I can think of (and most UK ones) since the war, that I can recall have been disasters as NATO is turning out to be now, and America is a far less significant country than Russia, and Britain is more accomplished at keeping the peace than America could ever be.
You appear to believe it is a path to stability and are unconcerned about all that dangerous power in a madman with no moderating influence.
I do think Putin has imposed peace/stability on NATO. NATO is stuck and can only offer weapons and money; weapons and money to kill Ukrainians and Russians!
I was surprised , I never thought Putin was no so clever.I'm angry that NATO has no moderating Russian influence it its governance, Russia, being 11% of the world's surface, more if you count its seas, has very much influence, as the British once had, Putin, for good or bad, has satisfactorily demonstrated that Russia has huge influence, else you would not be grumbling. If Putin is mad, you will know as there will be a very bright flash at the end of your life.
What do you imagine the end game will be for Putin trying to keep himself in power. The current dictatorship can't last forever.. what happens then?
The end game for all persons is our grave, but I'll take a guess on what you are really asking. Putin thinks the workers of the world should unite. That is a form of religion, if Putin goes there are millions more who think the exact same thing.Bottom line: Sometimes you are better with the devil you know...
. Putin thinks the workers of the world should unite. That is a form of religion,
If you think this, you ought to notice that this sounds like communism.
Now you say Putin is all the last defence against a communist Russia. I thought you hated communism.
. Putin thinks the workers of the world should unite. That is a form of religion,
If you think this, you ought to notice that this sounds like communism.
Now you say Putin is all the last defence against a communist Russia. I thought you hated communism.
Putin has revealed that NATO is useless to Ukraine or anybody else. If NATO is allowed to exist, it is only a matter of time before Nuclear war starts, whether under Putin or the communist is not relevant. For the time being, Putin has unilaterally neutralised NATO, stopping it from acting to start another world war! It'll be big news when it sinks in.Henry Kissinger will be fuming as Putin has outdone him and restarted the Cold War on his own.
Putin has outdone him and restarted the Cold War on his own.
And you applaud him for doing it...
Putin has unilaterally neutralised NATO, stopping it from acting to start another world war!
And you applaud him for doing it...
You can't even lie properly! Yes for stopping stopping NATO from acting to start another world war. You think NATO should start ww3?
@lordsnooty Putin has successfully resisted a NATO invasion that didn't take place. Or so it's reported in Russian newspapers. Maybe you write for your local market too?
@lordsnooty Putin has successfully resisted a NATO invasion that didn't take place. Or so it's reported in Russian newspapers. Maybe you write for your local market too?
You are very dim but you are getting slowly closer. So let me bring you in on a big secret. putin is using Kiev as bait. it's a trap. That's why the 40 mile long column is stalled to lay siege Kiev , it's bait, to bring NATO to him. Where he can destroy NATO as Stalin destroyed Hitler before NATO , and in similar circumstances as the french army was wiped out in 1812, Russia is big enough to absorb it .That is where Putin's mind is.He wants Britain and NATO to try, so he can destroy Britain and NATO. If the 30 mile column takes kiev, his bait is gone. If NATO tales the bait , he'll nuke NATO and win the big game. if NATO does not take the bait, kiev straces, Putin wins. Sick eh? Who is sicker? NATO or Putin?
@lordsnooty More laughable analysis from Lord Snootski and his Russian paymasters. Putin has sent his army in without enough food and fuel. That's why they're strung out all along the approach road. Putin wanted to pull off an American style 'shock & awe' attack. He's ended up convincing us they are 'shocking & awful'.
@lordsnooty He's ended up convincing us they are 'shocking & awful'.
yes, very funny, I expect he was thinking 'it is better to be Godzilla than bambi'.
Very little truth is coming out. So the west's predefined narrative is holding up quite well, few media outlets seem prepared to go against the tide.You'd expect that from the Guardian and the BBC, after their toad like compliance during the Pandemic.Now and again a bit of real news pops out of the Mail, like this from Bill Roggio
Bill paints a very different picture that the Guardian and the BBC, who are locked in together with the government in the same echo chamber listening to the sound of their own voices, with some the government hoping to steer the country into a war with Russia, as Ben Wallace (the war mongering bastard )was eager to admit , we kicked the backside" of Nicholas I of Russia in the Crimean War, and could do so again:
@lordsnooty You just don't get it, do you Snootski? Even if Putin wins on the battlefield, he's already lost the war of hearts and minds. By his actions, he has made Ukraine part of the west forever. Maybe Russia will occupy it for a period of weeks, months or even years. But it will be rule at the point of a gun. The fighting will morph into guerrilla warfare. One day, the Russian people will grow sick of the body bags and pull out.
@lordsnooty Even if Putin wins on the battlefield, he's already lost the war of hearts and minds. By his actions, he has made Ukraine part of the west forever.
I'm quite sure Putin intends to either
a) keep ukraine or
b) wreck it completely to ensure the West gets at best a pyrrhic victory.
This is too set a precedent to demonstrate to the west that hostility to Russia yields negative profits. The west via NATO behaves so stupidly, deceitful and illogically towards Russia that Putin has found it necessary to send a determined message that cannot be misinterpreted.
@lordsnooty Sorry to tell you Snootski, but what Putin wants is irrelevant. He's an old man and will be replaced. But what a poisoned legacy he leaves! Every inch of territory he buys now with Russian and Ukrainian blood will have to be surrendered, in order for peace to be restored.
So you are a fan of Putin's Russia then????
The nearest opposition are the communists, again.
I fear Russia may have committed too few troops to get the job done. Now he's stuck, good and proper, if he fails the cold war is back on.In any case, the Ukraine will be wrecked, nothing can stop that now. It's the biggest failure in diplomacy in a lifetime.
@lordsnooty But Putin says everything is going to plan. Is he lying?
I don't know he's a former spy and a politician so one must entertain the idea that he is lying.
But he executing a plan you wholeheartedly approve of.
According to you he is the most appropriate leader for your Russia.
Be careful, he will not be pleased when he learns of your public disloyalty to him
