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ewloe
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The guardian is hosting an informative article about vaccine risks

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/aug/26/bbc-presenter-lisa-shaw-died-of-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-complications-coroner-finds

It is well known everywhere that the AZ Oxford vaccine carries a small risk of  blood clots . There have been 72 deaths  linked to the  clots in brain the UK after 24.8 million first doses and 23.9 million second doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

So the per shot ratio is 0.000003, which is about  three mircromorts. It is regarded as a small risk, roughly comparable to going skiing for a weekend at (I recommend Axamer Lizum). But clots can  cause significant disability, which can be  as bad as death, depending on the case.

Anyway, 3 micromorts is about the risk, I'd say, which is equivalent to e.g. riding a motorcycle for 20 miles. In my view the blood clot risk could be reduced by careful deltoid (arm) injections, to ensure no blood vessel is punctured. This is a very  easy procedure to teach but is not used in the UK as it cost time. Here John Campbell explains the matter, perfectly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md8pJFbMVnk

Since this is 'low hanging fruit' and could easily save (say) a hundred lives pa. This is a battle worth fighting, even if the battle against general vaccination isclearly lost now that 90% have been jabbed. 100 lives is nothing wrt national policy, one could save more by lowering the 30 mph speed limit to 25 mph (for example) but for the sake of a five minute demo to all vaccinators, I think it would be a good way to save a hundred or more people a year from death or disability.  A hundred lives is not much in the scheme of things , but much better than nothing.

** If vaccination must occur, we should do this.**

 

 

 

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ewloe
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Aspiration request....

This is a very  easy procedure to teach but is not used in the UK as it cost time. Here John Campbell explains the matter, perfectly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md8pJFbMVnk

** If vaccination must occur, we should do this.**

So today was my turn to get a booster vaccination shot here in Wales at Deeside.I had to get there by 10:05, which is a bit early for me. Buti made a big effort and got down there. 

 

It was all quite smooth except when I told the nurse, it would be necessery to aspirate for my jab. A negotiation ensued in which I had to tell her she had to aspirate or the deal was off, she gave in after that, so be warned, these people are truculent and may well oppose your request, but they''l do it if you force them to.

 

 

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ewloe
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Anyway the techniwue is called aspiration, but not doing so, the vaccine (or some occaisions, where a blood vessel is hit ) reaches places where it might be better if it did not get, causing problems thatr need not have occurred.

 

 

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Splattt
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Most of what Campbell waffles on about, including this is abject nonsense.  Yet another snake oil salesman after click money.

Hes got no data to back up anything he says and consistently refuses any debate with peers.

 

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@splattt you  have grown a t, but you are as caustic as ever.Cambell is very pro vaccine, as I am, do you have reservations about the vaccine, I do not regard Yellow Card data  as reliable. It may be good enough to stiulate interest in some emergenr phenomenon, i.e. to create a signal worthy of more reseasch, but the raw data itself is poor quality, I feel. MikeAustin  puts a lot of store in it. Too much faith in my opinion.

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The recent Hippesley-Cox paper on clot-related issues shows that the Yellow Card system is recording under 10% of clot-related issues for Pfizer, and maybe a bit over 10% for AZ.

The Yellow Card system is clearly not fit for purpose -- over and over again experts have been calling for proper pharmacovigilance data to be undertaken, but their cries have fallen on deaf ears.

We really don't know how many people have been killed or injured as a result of these vaccines -- this is a rather desperate state of affairs, and this is before the mass vaccination of children and the start of the (likely) annual booster programme.

It is as though the authorities would prefer not to know about any adverse side effects of the vaccines.

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The Yellow Card system is clearly not fit for purpose -- over and over again experts have been calling for proper pharmacovigilance data to be undertaken, but their cries have fallen on deaf ears.

The main purpose of the Yellow Card System is to throw up areas of concern for investigation. It manages to do that quite enough to require the jab programme to be stopped. Unfortunately, MHRA are grossly irresponsible in not taking a blind bit of notice, despite being prompted by Dr Tess Lawrie and others who keep to the hippocratic oath.

In the presence of such irresponsible behaviour from MHRA, it would make no difference if we had a better recording system. Their intention is clearly to push the jab at any cost - even peoples' lives. They are morally bankrupt.

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Posted by: @amanuensis

The recent Hippesley-Cox paper on clot-related issues shows that the Yellow Card system is recording under 10% of clot-related issues for Pfizer, and maybe a bit over 10% for AZ.

The Yellow Card system is clearly not fit for purpose -- over and over again experts have been calling for proper pharmacovigilance data to be undertaken, but their cries have fallen on deaf ears.

We really don't know how many people have been killed or injured as a result of these vaccines -- this is a rather desperate state of affairs, and this is before the mass vaccination of children and the start of the (likely) annual booster programme.

It is as though the authorities would prefer not to know about any adverse side effects of the vaccines.

I agree on this one! Yes, most authorities do not want to know the adverse side effects because they believed that the vaccines will work! and in order to end the pandemic. 
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Furthermore, as it appears the effectiveness of the jabs is much shorter than first envisaged, Grouchi Fauci suggests the answer is....

...more frequent jabs. 

That in itself changes the risk benefit analysis. 

Plus by his logic if if the jabs are later found to have even shorter effectiveness against whatever variant is prevalent, let's say they only provide significant protection for a month, then it will be monthly jabs. Further changing the risk benefit analysis. 

Or maybe that is a case of priming the public for future policy. Who knows. 

Once again, it's worth remembering the jabs were promoted by the UK govt as a means to get us out of the pandemic once the vulnerable had received them. Now they are being foisted upon more and more people including children as a means to shore up the jabs' own reputation in the face of (a) evidence demonstrating natural immunity is in many cases superior and (b) waning effectiveness in the very people the jabs were originally given to supported by the lie that it would lead to "freedom" by Easter this year. 

 

 

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