Hi guys
First post here. I was sent this by a friend of mine as evidence that the 'vaccines' work I guess and that us unvaccinated are vulnerable.
I was wondering what you guys make of it? There's no actual data available to look at or details on the definition of 'fully vaccinated'?
I know the similar claims made in September were easy to rip apart as it was clear they were using data from Jan 21 when 'vaccines' were not available but I'm struggling with this one.
Hi guys
First post here. I was sent this by a friend of mine as evidence that the 'vaccines' work I guess and that us unvaccinated are vulnerable.
I was wondering what you guys make of it? There's no actual data available to look at or details on the definition of 'fully vaccinated'?
I know the similar claims made in September were easy to rip apart as it was clear they were using data from Jan 21 when 'vaccines' were not available but I'm struggling with this one.
the video did not work. but this is it; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-HPXTaXdMg
Hi guys
First post here. I was sent this by a friend of mine as evidence that the 'vaccines' work I guess and that us unvaccinated are vulnerable.
I was wondering what you guys make of it? There's no actual data available to look at or details on the definition of 'fully vaccinated'?
I know the similar claims made in September were easy to rip apart as it was clear they were using data from Jan 21 when 'vaccines' were not available but I'm struggling with this one.
> I was sent this by a friend of mine as evidence that the 'vaccines' work I guess and that us unvaccinated are vulnerable.
if it's correct, then yes.
> I was wondering what you guys make of it?
Who cares, if you are not jabbed yet, you're not going to change, so you have to take your chances. I think it's already endemic.
This is the key quote about what is going on here...
He continues: “Nearly 90% of patients in ICUs with Covid-19 across NEL aren’t fully vaccinated. This clearly shows that getting two doses of a vaccine is the best way to reduce your chances of becoming seriously ill with Covid-19 and ending up in hospital. The individuals currently in our ICUs with Covid-19 are unlikely to have been admitted to intensive care if they had been fully vaccinated.”
If the patents in ICU disproportional had NO vaccinations then that would have been the highlighted statistic. It would have been up front in very fancy infographics.
This is very basic How to Lie With Statistics stuff.
As they dont link to the raw data this tells me that there is no meaningful statistical difference between to No vaccine and two shot vaccine groups. The reason why they make a big deal about two shots is the vaccines are very weak so need both a strong adjuvant (which is a serious immune system irritant) and a second shot to have any measurable short term efficacy. Multiple shots and a strong adjuvant is always a very bad sign with a vaccine.
Given the differential vaccination rates between high risk and low risk population and the low / no efficacy of vaccines among the high risk groups (weak immune-system) over time the vaccinated will be admitted to ICU's at a higher rate than the unvaccinated quite simply because they tend to be in worse health. So higher probability of more serious / severe symptoms.
It just the same in influenza pandemics. Where the vaccines have a much better track record.
