In several previous posts, I’ve noted that excess mortality data from Europe and Israel suggests that vaccine effectiveness against death has been overestimated. For example, the chart below plots excess mortality over time in Israel:
The shaded area corresponds to the period of time by which more than 80% of over 60s were doubled vaccinated. Comparing it to the area that isn’t shaded, the overall level and pattern of excess mortality is almost identical.
In fact, if you showed someone the shaded and unshaded areas, and asked them to guess which one represents the pre-vaccine rollout period, and which one represents the post-vaccine rollout period, they wouldn’t be able to tell.
Now, this certainly doesn’t mean that vaccine effectiveness against death is zero. But it is hard to reconcile with claims of, say, 90% effectiveness against death. And excess mortality data from Singapore appears to tell the same story.
Singapore has one of the world’s highest vaccination rates, and the overwhelming majority of doses given were either Pfizer or Moderna. (In other words, only a small percentage of Singaporeans received the supposedly inferior Sinovac vaccine.)
In addition, the rollout was completed in good time, as the chart below indicates. By August 31st 2021, 78% of over 80s and 88% of those aged 60-79 had been double vaccinated.
However, these high vaccination numbers were not enough to prevent a substantial rise in excess mortality during the country’s Delta wave, as the chart below indicates.
Singapore successfully contained the virus until the autumn of 2020, by which time the country’s leaders had realised Zero Covid was not a viable long-term strategy. However, excess mortality reached more than 30% in both October and November – approximately the same level as in Germany.
Given the very small number of unvaccinated elderly people – by October 1st, around 84% of over 80s had received two vaccine doses – it’s difficult to square the excess mortality figures with claims of 90% vaccine effectiveness against death.
Having said that, the data from Singapore probably aren’t quite as unexpected as the data from Israel and Europe. Singapore hadn’t really seen any waves of Covid prior to the autumn of 2021, so there may have been more ‘dry tinder’ in the population when the Delta wave got underway.
Hong Kong is currently going through what looks to be a deadly Omicron wave, its deadliness apparently driven by the country’s low elderly vaccination rate. So even if vaccine effectiveness against death has been somewhat overstated, using the vaccines to help achieve focused protection certainly makes sense.
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Now, this certainly doesn’t mean that vaccine effectiveness against death is zero.
Of course this does not MEAN that Elvis is living on the moon either. What this does do is demonstrate very strongly statistically that in these cases the ‘vaccines’ have absolutely ZERO efficacy against death.
No matter how overwhelming the data, why is there always such a seemingly subliminal effort to defend the narrative?
If you were PM and you had convinced your population to take an experimental jab “to help each other” and “to get out of this”, would you then turn around and say “oh whoops that didn’t work sorryyyy”
I think the whole saga has been a demonstration of out-of-depth politicians aiming above all else to avoid being caught out in a social media sound-bite world.
I might start a war to deflect attention.
Even better if you successfully blame someone else for starting it.
And the sheep lap it all up, again…
Too late – they’ve done it!
Verifiable stories of the Ukrainian army using citizens as “human shield” Sryria style , preventing them for using safety corridors and shooting them are now coming into the light in US alternative media.
Meanwhile Zelensky bans media abd oposition parties
The Great Big “Democratic Ukraine”propaganda lie under pressure
Reports now ( with photos of the money) of wealthy Ukrainian political class being caught smuggling millions of dollars and Euros out of the Country as they flee
They’re late to the pary. People from Ukraine I happen to know have told all of these stories, just with Ukrainians and Russians swapped, weeks ago. As usual, US alternative media just repeat what the other party has been publishing already, never shy of copying PR tricks which work.
There’s a very nice saying in the area I was born in (Hunsrück):
Alle in eene Sack gesteckt, Knübbel druff, trifft de richtiche.
(English: Put them all into a large sack, thrash thorougly with a wooden club, whoever gets hit deserved it).
heimat, wie die welt noch in ordnung war…
He did say, or blurt out, that it neither stops you spreading or stops you getting.
Boris Johnson on boosters – YouTube
The usual white noise from him
Did I miss the study where the control group had a significantly higher death rate?
Yes, exactly. They are now in a deep hole that they have dug for themselves.
And let’s not forget, how many doses have we bought that we are commited to, 100 million, maybe more?
On the contrary, Johnson used the opportunity of his Spring Conference to push the new jabs and boosters onto his sheepie Tory audience!
Could you actually make this stuff up?
( Well, Johnson does!)
If I were PM I wouldn’t have behaved like a moron and got myself in that position in the first place. I would have dusted off the Pandemic Plan compiled over decades and kept up to date, and used that.
That is assuming that you would not be a WEF stooge PM
Or simply ignoring how we have evolved to live/survive with/alongside pathogens. Back to square one – building immunity resistance through exposure to a virus such as covid. After two years. Criminal.
Vaccines making it worse? Don’t work? There is a stark reality here. I wonder if Whitty has a conscience – obviously not. But oh for a god. No pearly gates opening for so many of the these evil creatures.
those pearly gates are nothing but an invention of the wicked people to keep the others from revolting against them and giving them the punishment they deserve here and now…
I might start something called Partygate
In other words, why are speaking so cautiously?
Because we have been subjected to totalitarian tyranny: ordered to virtual house arrest, ordered to restrict our contact with other people, ordered to cover our faces with hideous masks.
In short, we have been subjected to bullying which, for the vast majority of us, is unprecedented in its scope and nature. We know that our masters are capable of harsh and unreasonable actions against us.
“Why is there always such a seemingly subliminal effort to defend the narrative?”
Because the shocking truth is just too much to accept for so many of those who have been fooled!
You are just old fashioned and believe in the centuries old scientific process. These days we have The Science™️ – the narrative requires no proof, just blind faith and compliance.
‘… such a seemingly subliminal effort to defend the narrative?’
A lot of it about. You can guarantee the now automatic response, ‘less serious’ in any discussion about people still getting CoVid despite vaccination.
CoVid caused economic ruin, increase in suicides. businesses closing down, supply chain problems, harm to children.
Now increasing prices for goods, fuel, and energy and supply shortages are caused by the war in Ukraine or Putin.
Not British Government policies then?
” The Science™️ – the narrative requires no proof, just blind faith and compliance.”
You forgot one other key component of “The Science”:
Significant funding from Mr. William Henry Gates III
Goodness me but I can’t wait for the NZ version of this!
She saved us
Noah,
The covid bioweapon injection makes sense only if you wish to reduce the number of elderly who use up a greater proportion of vital services than the younger, productive generations. Advocating this bioweapon injection for any reason is amoral & unethical as it only does harm.
The only ethical response is to support & promote the use of prophylaxis using IVM or HCQ with zinc, Vit D3+K2 or other tried & tested protocols as per Dr Zev Zelenko or the World Council for Health. All of which have good safety profiles & known benefits.
BB
Or were selling discount annuities
We have seen occasional blabbing from actuaries, but rapidly covered up in much the same way that this article ends, i.e. “But of course we have faith in Our Vaccines, when used with the right and proper incantations and esoteric incenses.”
Pfiser Protect Us!
It’s not just the old that are being democided.
It’s appalling what is being done for The Greater Good….
From Igor Chudov’s substack:
Short term reinfections may be mild — so they do not show up in hospitalizations as much — but they are NOT a good thing. It means that people having them, are not really immune to Covid after repeated vaccinations and breakthrough Covid cases.
They do not have “hybrid super immunity”. Instead, they lack ANY immunity. I hope that it does not include immunity to OTHER illnesses like smallpox or chickenpox. Time will tell.
The recent reports of Covid infections destroying immune T cells, like HIV, also make endless repeat cases concerning.
Authorising the jabbbing of the very elderly and most vulnerable, given with properly informed consent as to the experimental nature of the shots and the rushed safetly triles could be justified. But there is absolutely no possible justification to roll it out to healthy adults, and the jabbing of children is nothing short of a tragedy.
Jabbing the elderly is simply part of the depopulation scam. These “vaccines” have no upside for anyone unless you are a promoter of a death cult.
Since these individuals have on average no more than 12 months left on the life clock, your logic fails. They will die anyway.
you are lacking logic. we will all die….
The number of people who have been vaxxed and then come down with shingles doesn’t even seem to make the vaxxed suspicious. Cognitive dissonance abounds.
CoVid = coronavirus disease, because it is caused by a coronavirus. 10% of Colds are caused by four coronaviruses (and their millions of mutations) and have been in circulation for a very long time.
If effective vaccines were possible for this coronavirus, we would have had effective vaccines against the others. The fact we do not explains why – not possible because of characteristic these viruses have, rapid and diverse mutation meaning the new mutants are not susceptible to the immune response produced either by first contact with the first viral version, or a vaccine specific to it.
And this is why they thought they would have a go with mRNA therapies – fail.
As for vaccine acquired immune deficiency – look up Antigen Imprinting aka Antigen Original Sin. It was identified, I think 60 years ago.
The meme explanation that Hong Kong is suffering because of low vaccine uptake in the elderly is just ridiculous. We know from our own numbers here that the vast majority of deaths since November are in elderly, fully vaccinated individuals. So, before jumping to this Covidian type conclusion, how are you able to prove this to be the case?
The article does a good job of showing how the vaccine as saviour claims are plainly false, however, it finished by blaming unvaccinated for Hong Kongs deadly wave. It’s plainly contradictory.
So which is it?
The HK data also looks warped. On Our World In Data you can see the daily deaths went from 3 on Feb 17th to 280 or so only 3 weeks later, and has now peaked.
This needs a lot more work to unpick.
yes, the vaccines were supposed to stop covid spread. yes, the “experts” told us so.
Just a little reminder we were lied to.
Just get your two vaccine doses and everything will be back to normal
Just get your refresh to your top-up to your booster to the full course of vaccination and all this can end.
We are up to four.
It becomes clearer every day that the new definition of “vaccine” now carries as much precision and usefulness as “man” or “woman”.
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less,”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
We are living in wonderlands …
The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”
Perfect – I knew someone would finish the quote!
What an interesting man Charles Dodgson was …
But you have not been paying attention… nobody ever said that, they said it would make CoVid – Less Serious™️.
I honestly wonder if we’ve been trolled. If not, I’d invite Noah to re-read what he just wrote, and have a think about how the last paragraph relates to everything before it.
So even if vaccine effectiveness against death has been somewhat overstated, using the vaccines to help achieve focussed protection certainly makes sense.
Have we been trolled. Well indeed, you’ve got to hand it to Noah, he never stops trying.
People don’t become unvaccinated, so if the unvaccinated are dropping like flies there should be a diminishing number of deaths until zero left.
Chinese statistics do not require any unpicking merely a heavy dose of cynicism
Ah, you were doing so well till that last paragraph. With the obvious caveat that most, if not all of the pcr based data is nonsense, you dont need to do complex analysis really. The UK and the US for example have higher numbers of deaths attributed to covid post vaccination. That with milder variants, better therapeutics and more natural immunity. How can such an effective vaccine against death align with those figures.
They have hid the vaccine deaths with the 14 day delay in becoming ‘vaccinated’. They have delayed reporting deaths which can have a huge effect on the relative death rates. They have continually and purposefully underestimated the unvaccinated population to increase the rates in that group (and probably overestimated the vaccinated). There will be plenty of other jiggery pokery going on with hospital stats/cause of death to make the unvaxxed data look as bad as possible.
The simple fact is that you cannot ‘vaccinate’ against a upper respiratory tract virus that has reasonably fast genetic drift, using a vascular ‘vaccine’ that creates an ineffective and damaging immune response to only a small part of the virus. A part that now no longer exists in nature. Then add in OAS and ADE, things that were well known to be a distinct probability from prior trials. The only and quickest way out was natural immunity of the working herd. They knew this, hence the lockdowns etc.
The virus was just a tool to achieve their goal. They dont have to work, they just have to be mandatory.
If you receive the MMR vaccine today then you’ve been vaccinated, but you are not immune, that can take up to 14 days. If you caught measles in the interim period, contracted encephalitis and unfortunately died. Would that count as a measles death whilst unvaccinated?
Sorry what i meant with the 14 day delay is that deaths from adverse reactions were catergorised as non covid deaths but in the unvaccinated group. Hence the peaks in non covid deaths in the unvaccinated (but really vaccinated but before 14 days) that correspond to start of the vaccine rollouts for each age group. Norman Fenton has the analysis on this and im sure it has been covered by the DS if you are interested.
That’s a cromulent question. However, the significance isn’t the semantic categorisation, but the numbers.
If we were dosing people with MMR in the middle of mass community transmission, and we found that people were dropping dead of measles complications at a higher rate than the undosed in the 2 weeks after dosing, and after 8 or 10 weeks, would we continue with the programme?
there’s no other blog on the planet that one would find the use of the word cromulent.
Bravo Sir, you win The Internet.
The use of cromulent embiggens us all.
re paragraph 3.
You certainly can’t do it with a jab that had a lower all-cause mortality in the placebo group! (it should’ve failed the trial at this point).
Instead they banned existing drugs that DID work ivermectin.
Scientist 1: Just starting the trial now.
Scientist 2: Brilliant. Im off to spend 6 months lost in the Amazon. Look forward to the results.
6 month later
1: Trial done. All approved. Safe and Effective.
2: Brill. Nasty bug. Hope not too many in the placebo died.
1: 17 im afraid.
2: Oh thats dreadful. Still at least they will know they are saving the world.
2: How many in the vaccine side.
1: Ummm
2: Go on.
1: 21
2: Ah. Errr. Hmmm. Oh well. How much are we charging per shot?
That directly contradicts everything that you just wrote. How bizarre.
Maybe he means we should only jab the already dead?
Can’t be too safe you know?
The key is the link in the words ‘focussed protection’. It links to an article Noah wrote on his own blog site in January where he argues FOR focused injections.
Having wrote in favour of using the ‘vaccines’ albeit with caveats he is now hoisted by his own petard.
He reports their ineffectiveness yet needs to cover his own previously taken position.
Unfortunate when posting on DS.
…hoisted by his own petard. Sounds painful!
https://mailchi.mp/thedailyupside/jab-heaven
The SPDR S&P Biotech ETF, an equal-weighted index, peaked at $167 per share in February 2021, but has fallen to just $80 this week. The Nasdaq Biotechnology Index, meanwhile, fell by more than one-fifth between its February 2021 peak and February 2022, even as the Nasdaq and S&P 500 rose 3% and 17% over the same time period, respectively.
Geraldine O’Keeffe, a partner at healthcare investment firm LSP, told the FT biotech shares have been hit by a “complete bloodbath across the board.” Meanwhile, Brad Loncar, another investor in the space, cautioned against a doomsday scenario: “I don’t think it is the kind of bubble we saw with the internet bubble, where it pops and we have a decade of reckoning,” he said to the FT. “Especially after Covid, all around the world governments will prioritize investing in biotech and drug development.”
Oh Dear! How Sad! Nevermind!
Yes but imagine how much deader those people would have been if they hadn’t had the jabs?
Why don’t any of these charts include excess deaths 5 or 10 years prior to the pandemic?
It is possible that what’s happening is that the vaccines are reducing deaths from covid, but also introduce the same number of additional deaths not from covid. I also note that it might be that there are deaths in the vaccinated that occur after infection with covid, but are from ‘other causes’ (ie, not breathing difficulties, ventilators, etc) and thus would be counted as ‘with’. They might also be delayed relative to the point of infection and then not counted in the official covid death stats (there is evidence for this).
Anyway, if vaccine deaths matched ‘covid deaths saved’ then this would seem like a ‘zero sum game’ — but there’s a catch.
We do know that the deaths from covid are in the elderly, but we don’t know if any vaccine-related deaths are similarly mainly in the elderly.
There might even be an age-related effect of vaccine related death/injury (ie, increases with age), but if this didn’t match the hockey-stick shape of the relationship of covid deaths with age you’d still end up with a problem
What’s actually needed is analysis of vaccine related deaths by age group (as a proxy for vulnerability).
It would be catastrophic if any vaccine related deaths exceeded covid deaths for a given age group.
Put in this light, Noah’s final sentence might make sense:
Ie, it could very well be that there’s a reasonable net benefit in those aged 70-90 (arguing for focused protection) but that there’s net harm in those aged 30-40 (arguing against universal vaccination).
I recommend watching the presentation by the Canadian Covid Care Alliance.
They discuss the Pfizer clinical trial and the numbers of deaths in the control and experimental groups.
Spoiler alert: there were more deaths in the experimental group. Also the trial was ended prematurely (according to past procedures).
any other DSers noticing a subtle but insidious creeping of an increasing amount of the articles on DS towards “The Narrative”?
If the vaccines are 90% effective as claimed then the ‘dry tinder’ effect mentioned in the penultimate paragraph should be irrelevant. Looking at the data the protection offered appear to be significantly short of the threshold required for ’emergency use’ authorisation.
What does ‘foccused protection’ mean, according to ONS, the elderly with comorbidities like dementia and heart disease are still dying from them.
We all know this is a big evil scam
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Strange, I though that the evidence of the vaccination’s “effectiveness’ in causing death, myocarditis, cancer regeneration, and immune system collapse was becoming more “effective” by the day?
Is any effectiveness of the vaccine against offset against possible risk of harm from the vaccine? A study they showed that optimal levels of vitamin D showed an extreme high protection against death from covid (with no side effects at all and with other health benefits) has, of course, received little promotion in the MSM. The sooner that the public realise that they’ve just taken part in the biggest experiment on humans in history, the better.
The Vit D data was suppressed from the very start, I suspect for extremely sinister reasons.
I note that the Coronavit trial is now 12 months since it was originally supposed to end, yet there’s no sign of the results.
It is worth pointing out that clinical trials like this are only given ethical approval on the basis that the results are worth having (whether positive or negative)– to undertake such an experiment and not do the analysis and publish the results is a breach of medical ethics.
As an aside, I also note that the principal investigator has taken his name off the official trial documentation. This is rather unusual.
Apex predator primates on a sphere of rock hurtling around a burning ball of hydrogen. Sometimes you get a Mozart symphony, sometimes you get a Holocaust. Sometimes you get a Rembrandt, other times you get tyrants forcing children to have cell therapy that damages their hearts. What a world.
One of those things you mention is a hoax but I suspect talking about it will soon be classed as a digital harm. Oy vey!
Safe and effective.
‘Now, this certainly doesn’t mean that vaccine effectiveness against death is zero.’
i read that three times to make sure my eyes were not deceiving me.
So these pseudo-vaccines produce immortality and life eternal for some do they?
When will it sink in? CoVid mortality occurs in those who will die soon anyway. If they do anything, these pseudo-vaccines may delay death by a few weeks/months which is no better than natural immunity.
And the evidence that the pseudo-vaccines have zero effect is all cause mortality which has not altered… the point of the article.
History is being written as we speak
There’s an interesting argument here: https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/nejm-proves-that-covid-vaccine-study that a much-cited booster efficacy study may actually show negative efficacy, with all the adverse outcomes shunted into the unvaxxed category by defining it as up to 2 weeks after treatment.
Funny situation whereby the vaxxed don’t seem to give a monkeys about their long term survival and will even urge on a nuclear war. I say fine baby just don’t include me in your role of death.
Yeah, but nuclear Armageddon is surely a better option than having to admit you fell for the Covid scam?
The Pfizer trial was an abomination of corruption as covered by the BMJ.
Despite the clear corruption the best they could do was claim that 1 person died of covid in the vaccine group with two dying in placebo, hence the claim it was 100% effective against death – weasel words.
Now the same study showed 21 dead of all causes in the vaccine group and 17 in placebo so their own study showed the vaccine would kill more than it saved.
Yet the governments forced it on the people.
It’s a shame the majority of the population, including the medical profession, don’t seem to have any awareness of the absurd basis for the vaccine effectiveness claims.
And perhaps more importantly, even the limited “effectiveness” (which was only ever comparative, not absolute) was seen to decline very quickly. THAT is why the placebo group were offered the “vaccine” after two months, so that this trend could never be seen. Cute!
Does that answer the question of why Pfizer and the FDA wanted to keep the documentation for EUA approval sealed for 75 years?
hongkong is currently going through a bout of red nose disease.
this disease makes the nose of the sufferer turn bright red.
it stays that way for a couple of weeks and turns normal after that.
it has no other known symptoms or consequences.
yet a lot of people die while their nose is bright red.
so the red nose disease is proclaimed a major cause of deaths in hongkong….
Millions have died globally because of “BROWN nose disease” by Governments, Public Health Authorities, Physicians and MSM.
The more interesting part of the SIngapore experience, strangely not mentioned in the article, is that SIngapore, like Suuth Korea, ,”successfuly contained the virus until the Autumn of 2020″ through the use of HCQ/Ivermectin. It then switched course and adopted the Western mass vaccination strategy. The results can be seen herein.
Why? SIngapore is desperately trying to avoid being labelled as a “Tax Haven” by Washington and wants to stay below the radar. It probably succumbed to pressure from the usual suspects to “get with the narrative”.