Last month, the Daily Sceptic highlighted the practice at the U.K. Met Office of inventing temperature averages from over 100 non-existent measuring stations. Helpfully, the Met Office went so far as to supply coordinates, elevations and purposes of the imaginary sites. Following massive interest across social media and frequent reposting of the Daily Sceptic article, the Met Office has amended its ludicrous claims. The move has not been announced in public, needless to say, since drawing attention to this would open a pandora’s box and run the risk of subjecting all the Met Office temperature claims to wider scrutiny. Instead, the Met Office has discreetly renamed its “U.K. climate averages” page as “Location-specific long-term averages”.
Significant modifications have been made to the new page, designed no doubt to quash suspicions that the Met Office has been making the figures up as it went along. The original suggestion that selecting a climate station can provide a 30-year average from 1991-2020 has been replaced with the explanation that the page “is designed to display locations that provide even geographical coverage of the U.K., but it is not reflective of every weather station that has existed or the current Met Office observation network”. Under the new page the locations are still referred to as “climate stations” but the details of where they are, exactly, have been omitted.
The cynical might note that the Met Office has solved its problem of inventing data from non-existing stations by suggesting that they now arise from “locations” which may or may not bear any relation to stations that once existed, or indeed exist today. If this is a reasonable interpretation of the matter, it might suggest that the affair is far from closed.
Again we are obliged to the diligent citizen journalist Ray Sanders for drawing our attention to the unannounced Met Office changes and providing a link to the previous averages page on the Wayback Machine. The sleuthing Sanders has been on the case for some time, having discovered that three named stations near where he lives, namely Dungeness, Folkestone and Dover, did not exist. The claimed co-ordinates for Dover placed the station in the water on the local beach as shown by the Google Earth photo below.
As a result, Sanders discovered from a freedom of information request that 103 of the 302 sites marked on the climate averages listing – over a third of the total – no longer existed. Subsequently, Sanders sought further information about the methodology used to supply data for both Folkestone and Dover. In reply, the Met Office said it was unable to supply details of the observing sites requested “as this is not recorded information”. It did however disclose that for non-existent stations “we use regression analysis to create a model of the relationship between each station and others in the network”. This generates an estimate for each month when the station is not operating. Each “estimate” is said to be based on data from six other stations, chosen because they are “well correlated” with the target station.
In the case of Dover, the nearest ‘station’ is seven miles away at non-existent Folkestone followed by Manston which is 15 miles distant. By “well correlated” perhaps the Met Office means they are in the same county of Kent. No matter, computer models are on hand to guide the way.
Ray Sanders had sent details of his findings to the new Labour science minister Peter Kyle MP and the recent Met Office changes may have been promoted by a discreet political push. At the time, Sanders asked: “How would any reasonable observer know that the data was not real and was simply ‘made up’ by a Government agency?” He called for an open declaration of likely inaccuracies of existing published data “to avoid other institutions and researchers using unreliable data and reaching erroneous conclusions”.
The Met Office also runs an historical data section where a number of sites with long records of temperature are identified. Lowestoft closed in 2010 and since then the figures have been estimated. The stations at Nairn Druim, Paisley and Newton Rigg have also closed but are still reporting estimated monthly data. “Why would any scientific organisation feel the need to publish what can only be described as fiction?” asks Sanders.
The original Braemar station in Aberdeenshire has recorded temperature data since Victorian times. Due to its interesting topography surrounded by high mountains, it recorded the U.K.’s coldest temperature of -27.2°C in both 1895 and 1982. In summer, the temperature can soar as the heat stays trapped. A new site, some distance from the original, was set up in 2005 and in common with Met Office procedure was labelled Braemar 2 to reflect both distance and climatological differences. In the historical data section of the Met’s website, Braemar 2 is shown supplying data back to 1959. “For reasons I find difficult to understand, the Met Office has chosen to highlight a spurious merging of two notably different data sets for an illogically defined period that fails to represent either site,” observes Sanders.
The recent changes made by the Met Office to its climate average pages shows that the state-funded operation is fully aware of the growing interest in its entire temperature recording business. This interest has grown because the Met Office is fully committed to using its data to promote the Net Zero political fantasy. But it is silent on the biggest concern that has been raised of late, namely the promotion of temperatures, accurate to one hundredth of a degree centigrade, obtained from a nationwide network where nearly eight out of 10 stations are so poorly sited they have internationally-recognised ‘uncertainties’ as high as 5°C.
Chris Morrison is the Daily Sceptic’s Environment Editor.
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I wondered when this charlatan would surface again. He should get back in his dank cave with his mate Witless, another waste of oxygen.
“Individuals need to know what is expected of them”
Indeed, Sir Patrick.
How about responsible and honest behaviour in high office?
How about not assuming that you are the lord and master of the public, rather than their servant?
“Individuals need to know what is expected of them”
By 2030, to own nothing and be happy!
Vallance and his Globalist millionaire chums excepted of course. More like ‘own everything and be greedy for more’!
Yep – it would be a whole lot easier if he would just come out and say it instead of all the hinting at it which a lot of people won’t get.
Patrick Vallance, the individual, needs to know that he will never fly again, will never eat out again and will live the rest of his corrupt, criminal existence within 30 miles of his current abode. He has no right to appeal, no right to legal due process and will be locked up in Belmarsh until he commits suicide or dies of natural causes if he breaks the terms of his new pointless life.
Vallance never accepted his academic equal Mike Yeadon’s challenge that he was lying and knew he was lying about every aspect of the “Covid Scamdemic”
Yeadon told Vallance to sue him for his claim and get the debate into the open.
Vallance has zero credibility – but lots and lots of money.
I’m eating belly pork tonight and thinking of buying a 1950’s Cadillac. And I signed my local Greens election nomination papers. Just dissent and refuse. And enjoy life.
You can keep your Cadillac. My Dodge Viper, when I can afford to top it up, is a much better ride.
Well done you. I just ordered a second ‘half a lamb’ from a UK organic farm a week or so back, having ordered half a lamb and half a pig back in November.
Snooty-nosed Vallance can whistle for all the notice I will take of his self-righteous entitled hectoring. I trust he won’t be in the Royal Box at Wimbledon this year after all his Coronavirus pseudo-science has been demonstrated to be fraudulent rubbish. It wouldn’t do for the AELTCC to be associating themselves with fifth rate failures, after all.
Enjoy chicken dinners before they kill them all with their planned “Bird Flu”scam !
They ought to be able to get the price of a surviving bird up to £30 quite easily with fuel and feed inflation as well!
Be sure “Porker” Johnson will not be going without !
Remember he was the top of Fauci’s list of people to contact when he wanted to suppress the story of the Wuhan lab leak.
He has been utterly discredited as a scientist. Why on earth is his ilk still listened to? He should be ashamed to show his face in public, let alone be making statements like this.
He is listened to by the ignorant Westminster village and Whitehall paper pushers because he has a title: ‘Chief Scientific Advisor’.
He is scribbled about by the MSM because as prostitutes, their chief pimps reside in the Westminster Village. Only deluded sheep continue to be their punters.
He believes in net zero. He’s an idiot. I bet he won’t be giving up steak. It’s the little people who need to abandon hope.
Precisely. As far as I am concerned anybody spouting “net zero” is a WEF harlot, a dishonest idiot and not worth paying attention to.
I expect he’ll be going pescatarian, with Caviar, turbot, salmon and some nice Essex natives (oysters, that is); all washed down with the finest English sparklings.
Criminals and gangsters often live high on the hog, before Nemesis catches up.
Last summer he was partaking in whatever the Royal Box feeds its occupants on Centre Court.
I trust the AELTCC realises he is a fifth rate discredited fraudster before they extend him another invitation…..
But he’s ‘among friends’ there , isn’t he?
When the people telling me that climate change is an emergency start behaving like it’s an emergency, I might take notice.
Bill Gates’ mansion by the ocean in San Diego says it all.
He doesn’t believe in net zero. He believes in imposing it on the peons.
I’d look at his bank accounts before calling him an idiot. I expect he doesn’t believe in ‘net zero’ at all.
He does believe in ‘Let them eat cake’ for the plebs, though.
I wouldn’t fancy his chances during a Peasants’ Revolution….
Very important to catch Vallance in the equivalent of ‘Party Gate’.
Anyone who sees him ordering meat in a restaurant: take a photo, go over and challenge him recording it all on your iPhone and make sure it goes viral.
Anyone who sees him at an airport, do the same. If he is flying first class, his career is over.
If he uses private jets, he needs locking up in Belmarsh.
Vallance needs to be the human guinea pig spending 5 years eating Gates’ factory-made insect food.
He believes in all that rubbish, so he can live the life according to all that rubbish.
There are a few things they can do before “abandoning hope”.
Perhaps a Net Zero Salary is best for this grubby speculating creep. I’d like to see evidence of his cycling to work, such as from where to where.
As for eating less meat, he’s off my shopping list when we become cannibals, and I won’t be consuming any Soylent Green if he’s an ingredient.
Well, mum always told me to eat all the greens!
Even the recycled ‘ooman ones?
“Perhaps a Net Zero Salary”
Everyone will soon learn the true meaning of that phrase sooner or later.
Except those like him that will carry on pretty much as usual.
I expect so.
You know so.
I agree, and Mr. Brand [not everyone’s cuppa tea] also gets it…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzIPJfqFETU
Fortunately he has a 5.5m tube subscriber base…. so slowly, slowly… the game plan of globalist control tool of choice CBDCs the reality of which…the message is getting out.
I also suspect places like Denmark will see a steady increase in libertarian leaning immigrants, you know the kinda folks who liked the world Old Normal….
And those not choosing to live under a draconian state of techno-bio-security-digio-apartheid – compliant vaxxd v unvaxxd untermensch…
Strong language, but spot on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c
George never disappoints!
Get Fu…. Wait, can we swear yet?
This isn’t Twitter, ma’am.
It’s always 6pm somewhere.
I’ll say it for you: get fucked, Vallance.
The first sacrifice is to get rid of the “science” chef.
Butterfly.
(was looking at the ‘Vikings’ version BTW.)
And the ‘Chief Medical Officer’.
Just as a sausage factory burns down in Essex following a spate of meat processing plants burning in the US and the BBC tells you you will eat insects and be happy. I fear we will see many more such burnings Sir Patrick – please tell me I am wrong.
Yes there does seem to be an inordinately high number of food processing factories going up in smoke – it must be deliberate!!
If they’re not deliberate sabotage, then it stretches coincidence to beyond belief.
Of course it’s deliberate. It’s MI6 and the CIA at work as usual.
“Residents are urged to avoid the area and people in Harlow Town have been advised to keep doors and windows shut.”
What if you’ve cut the bottoms of your doors off so that The Virus can’t get you? (although it’s unclear how this actually works).
Perhaps if Patrick Vallance eats meat at home his home could be considered to be a place where meat is processed in Vallance’s gut.
Would be a terrible shame if his multimillion pound pad went up in smoke, eh?
Food processing plants are being hit by aircraft and mysteriously burning down all over the US – Vegan Green Terrorists at work supported by the State?
We are under siege! Where are the Police?
Why doesn’t he **** off and mind his own business?
Because he is a perfect human being and as such he has every right to tell you how to live your life and like all such perfect humans he will stop at nothing to ensure you are created in his image, he is God like in his own head. That’s why he is saving us from ourselves.
Because he signed up to pathological lying in public for money and he crossed the rubicon in 2020.
Just Brits?
No, these see you next Tuesdays want everyone cycling to their ‘job’ in a state approved outfit The Chairman had that bit right.
What could possibly go wrong?
That grifting charlatan can “expect” all he likes, I will not eats the bugs.
That’s just what I wanted to hear and although I might not be flying again soon I fully intend to take not a blind bit of notice of this a#shole.
After the last two years government advice can F right O.
Will we also own nothing and be happy? the directives are straight out of that nasty little group of terorists the WEF and Davos forum. So Valance has his feet in both big Pharma and in the WEF camps, the money and power must be heady. When will this man join the rest on trial.
You’ll like it. It’s just like Communism, only different, this time we’ll do it properly.
“It’s important that the messaging [on climate change] isn’t designed to cause fear or upset, it should be about making sure people understand what the situation is,”
I think we ‘understand what the situation is’ … Astronomical fuel bills, switch my heating and vehicle all electric, (again, at astronomical cost), no flying, no meat, no, no, no …
Oh, and don’t throw your vote directly down the nearest grid. It’s recyclable.
Could Sir Patrick – or anyone else – tell me what the nature of the climate crisis is when satellite temperature, sea level and weather show no worsening trend in response to C02, and when atmospheric CO2 concentrations show a better correlation with global population than almost anything else.
I hate this arrogant ponce. Telling us all how to live, who the hell does he think he is?
Behavioural change? I’ll tell him where that’s needed – in our GP surgeries where the doctors are still pretending to be too busy to see patients face to face, even though the Covid scam has run its course. Nice work if you can get it, eh?
Seems to me that there are big changes going on in our society, seemingly whether we like it or not. Vallance, Witless et al couldn’t be happier about it apparently.
Sooner or later there needs to be street action.
“We should not aim to frighten people because that’s not helpful” says the bastard who lied to the entire nation every single day for two years scaring the wits out of most of them! I wonder what his £600,000 of shares are worth today?
Well Mr Vallance. When I want your advice I’ll ask for it until then ………..
STFU!
Is that sufficient to finish the sentence Bella?
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Bologna in Italy is trialling a social credit score from September. It’s based around the “virtuous citizen”….
That’s where it’s going.
Was that the “smart Wallet” or something
What a fucking miserable twat of a cunt he is.
Eloquently put!
Perfectly correct.
Of course Vallance won’t practice what he preaches because that is for the great unwashed. Why cant he just sod off.
Vallance ought to put some substance to his statements. Eg, what precisely means I fly less than I used to. I’ve chosen to cut the number of international conferences on dolliwhop and hupadoodledo I attend by 2?
I haven’t owned a car since the mid-1990 which means I’ve been doing all my everyday travel on foot since then. Sometimes, I go somewhere by train, at most once per month, usually, but not really every month. In the last 11 years, I’ve travelled to Germany by plane 4 times. I guess this puts me climate-wise so much ahead of what Vallance is doing that I needn’t worry about behaviour change for the rest of my life.
Heating a rural house for a year (with oil) can easily use as much as a return flight from London to Vancouver or Seattle. That’s a long flight (I went to Vancouver in 1993 … we got quite a spectacular view of Hudson Bay.)
Does Vallance live in a large rural house, heated by oil? (A lot of well-off people do.)
He’s probably one of the people who flies 5-10 times a year and thinks that everybody has a similar lifestyle to the upper-upper-middle class. No they don’t. It’s multi-millionaires with 100,000s of pharma shares who perhaps need to reduce their flying by 90, 95% or more. A ‘C2, D or E’ family taking one holiday per year in a warmer part of Europe seems a fairly trivial part of the problem. I don’t like to see the poor told how to behave by the rich.
In the spirit of all things eco, I am going to recycle another commenter’s excellent post from another article and say
Nope. You can f*ck right off you criminal cnut.
Just go away. Roll a big fat one and chill mate. Raid the fridge, get the munchies. Just fuck off.
The last time we were told not to eat something, it was eggs.
Didn’t work out to well for mad Edwina then either.
Make private jets illegal
Please lie down on the couch, tell me, have you tried to save the people living on this planet that you say now also needs saving?
Slightly ot but i had one of those delightful moments yesterday. Came across a few cyclists blocking my way and had to accelerate round them when they finally decided to get into singleish file. As i checked my mirror i could see several riders covering their mouths with their arms as they appeared out of the suspended contents of my obviously clogged catalytic converter, dpf and exhaust pipes. oooppps.
I opened my car door on a cyclist once, made me chuckle just a bit.
It’s not unarguable. It’s entirely arguable.
as someone on another site said, to put it into perspective, 100 years ago, out of 10,000 molecules making up the atmosphere, 3 were carbon dioxide. That’s increased to 4 molecules in 10,000. And that 1 molecule in 10,000 has made global temperatures increase to dangerous levels.
A bit more perspective. If mankind’s emissions are responsible for a warming planet then, by the arithmetical values of climate alarmists (not mine), it would take us 25,000 years at current rates of emission to raise the temperature of the planet by 2ºC.
What dangerous CO2 and temperature increase??
Were I able to design a Planet with that kind of ‘profile’ then I would want the ‘Award’,
Everytime one of these cretins appears and starts lecturing the general public it causes me to do the complete opposite.
I no longer recycle, I have bonfires in the garden, drive my car more and eat as much meat as possible.
I’ve stopped some recycling. Glass goes to a box because it is convenient to me but tuna tins etc just go to rubbish because that too is convenient to me. Loads of sand and pebbles go to my garden bin because…it is convenient to me. I hide all kinds of stuff into my garden bin due to convenience.
The bin men just take all the different recycling bins and dump them into the same landfill anyway. They haven’t got the time to drive to 7 different destinations.
As you are always taking people to task on here I will now do the same.
Where are these ‘locations’, what are the seven different ones for?
Do you have photographic evidence of this? Times dates?
Or is just unprovable and anecdotal?
Some of this will happen as a result of the OTT ‘booking’ system introduced stealthily ‘for COVID’ but now made permanent.
Some people now put items in the black bin to save the hassle of booking a trip to the tip.
Also there’s been a rise in fly-tipping … as predictable as night follows day.
This is becoming their problem.
There’s, probably, some Psychobabble term for taking the time to put glass in every bin as a matter of principle. They then wonder why we do it.
They sit around reading reports, based on the last ‘focus group’, that indicate ‘trans rights’ or ‘climate emergency’ are the biggest issues among the electorate. And proceed as though this is reality.
My f**king last energy/food/bills were just about enough to realise that this nonsense will kill many more than it saves.
Good man. I take a perhaps childish pleasure in putting stuff for recycling into the normal household rubbish bin. I’ve a few bonfires which need to be lit come summer.
I understand where you are coming from, buuuuuut
I have a bag that I put all my recyclables into. I have a ‘recycle couple’ who come every week to pick it up. They then sell it to an intermediary who then sells it to the recycling plants.
I also save used cooking oil as I have a friend who has a restaurant and all her used cooking is sold on in the same way.
So IF it is done right it can be a benefit to the individual(the recyclers) and also the environment.
Same here.
Always invert any lie from government or one of their officials.
He’s welcome to knock himself out eating plants and not flying. I volunteer to help him out by having his share of steaks and swanky plane trips.
Fk off and die you geeky little cnt. Not taking orders or advice from people like you. As for fat cnt BJ and Tory clowns: bring on the elections!
We can’t vote him out – he was never voted in in the first place! Just acts like he was.
I haven’t been on a plane since 2009 so I reckon I’m entitled to eat much more meat.
How does eating less meat save the world? Do any of these people think what will happen to all the livestock if we stop eating them?
I think I have ptsd from the shenanigans of this c***s*****! I never want to see him or his ‘mates’ (the shaggy haired loon and the weird ET lookalike) standing behind lecterns lecturing us on what we can and can’t do ever again. Go away.
…and you can s*d off too, Unbalanced!
How about telling the Chinese to shag less? Why do we have to suffer constantly?
The communist Chinese government forced their people to shag less by punishing couples for having more than one child. When the sewers got clogged up with aborted foetuses (predominantly female) I think they stopped that policy.
Indeed, but it was one of the few things they got right. Why should my lifestyle and the amount of meat I am allowed to eat be affected by billions of women who can’t keep their legs closed?
If the (stupid) argument that is people need to contribute less C02 to the atmosphere, then surely having more people on the planet is the worst solution to meet that aim.
China has far too many people. So does India.
“Individuals need to know what is expected of them…”
Cheeky bastard, by whom? Vallance presents himself as a scientist yet comes out with all this non-scientific BS. Take his suggestion that we need to eat less meat – why? Because cows fart and that, along with their breathing out CO2, causes the world to heat up exponentially? Well mammals have been farting and breathing for as long as they’ve roamed the Earth, but the Earth is still here and in one piece.
I was a vegetarian for 38 years and it did me no good. I now eat meat and feel much the better for it. I’m not going to stop simply because Vallance believes the great lie of AGW. I’ll bet no one in China follows his feeble effort to change his own behaviour.
Why did you start eating meat?
Probably because it’s hard to get a couple of amino acids you need for making proteins from a plant-based diet.
In 2017 I was rushed to hospital in an ambulance with very high BP (something like 223/111) which I believe was the result of a paradoxical reaction to the beta blocker I had just been prescribed for anxiety. I was afterwards prescribed statins, but before I took any I decided to investigate what they did and why, and what the risk/benefit ratio was. Inevitably I discovered the work of Dr. Malcolm Kendrick and Ivor Cummins. The rest, as they say, is history. I began eating meat, adopted a a high fat low carbohydrate diet and in two months had lost 2st 4lb, lowered my BP to what is considered healthy and said goodbye to my anxiety. The irony is I originally adopted a vegetarian diet in the mistaken belief that it was healthy.
I have no problem with Ukrainian refugees. I’m particularly in favour of a 6ft blonde, size 10-12, I digress. But an Englishman’s home is his Castle (UK man, Wales).
First they came of the Oligarchs:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhyeEPNhQVE&t=152s
We should not aim to frighten people! REALLY?? That’s what he’s been doing for the last 2 years!
I’ll be enjoying my slab of sirloin with a side helping of kerosene whenever I blooming well like, Mr Unbalanced.
Get lost, you interfering old …
Just go and get stuffed, you career misanthrope.
And his qualifications for having any valued input into this discussion are . . .???? Science has nothing to do with it
Important to distinguish it from the fear and upset designed to accompany the COVID debacle, isn’t it? You utter utter disgraceful charlatan fraudster.
This will obviously get removed and/or I’ll be banned but I feel this strongly about it:
GET FUCKED VALLANCE. REPEATEDLY. PREFERABLY BY AN ELEPHANT YOU REPULSIVE HYPOCRITICAL TWAT. AND TAKE THE REST OF YOUR CONDESCENDING INTERFERING BOLLOX WITH YOU.
BYE.
Seconded.
The ‘Coronation Street’ theme tune is now ringing in my ears.
At least it’s a welcome distraction from the ever present tinnitus.
Thank you.
All this eat less meat business is indicative of the one sided ‘on-message’ nonsense that typifies the banal superficial thinking that passes for discussion on this subject. The World’s soils are in a terrible state, much arable farming is virtually ‘dirt’ farming made possible with chemical fertilizers. Regenerative farming seeks to restore soil to a natural living fertile state, this is not really new or innovative, indeed for the UK it is back to basics. Cows, outdoors, eating grass and fertilizing the soil are a pretty good way of getting soil back into shape ready for a few arable crops. You can do it in other ways but grazing cows do it very well.
I would agree that large undercover herds whether for beef or dairy are not good for the environment but what we need is lots of grass being grazed outdoors by lots of cows providing the basis for some healthy fertile soils.
I wonder what farmers do with all that cowshit produced from undercover herds. They couldn’t possibly be spraying it on their fields could they?
Imagine that, optimum coverage, little waste, and probably more fields fertilised per herd than having them confined to one field, whilst others are turned over to crops.
Dealing with the by-products from undercover herds needs a lot of machinery power and does tend to lead to significant environmental problems, pollution and run-off also, simply spraying slurry on fields is a poor substitute for cows on grass where the action of the cows walking and grazing does in itself have a beneficial effect on the soil. Generally speaking it is intensive undercover herds which are much worse for methane emissions than outdoor grazing cows.
Complketelyt understandable. As a member of the self-designated elite he wants to fly and eat what he wants, it is just he thinks the plebs should know their place.
Here’s an interesting study: https://academic.oup.com/cdn/article/5/12/nzab133/6415894
Granted, it’s self reporting, but:
And then we wonder why they’re so adamant about us not eating meat… Reminds me of George Carlin’s sketch on “Where is all the blue food?”
Just replace “blue food” with “meat” and you basically have the future, except it’s not a comedy sketch, it’s dystopia.
“We should not aim to frighten people”
But that’s exactly what you have been doing for the past 2 years, Vallance.
But it was/is necessary to deliberately terrify the nation about the renamed flu. And remember when he said masks are pointless?
Oh dear, didn’t see that coming when it was predicted over a year ago…
So there you have it – the natural transition of covid conformity across to the carbon conformity. And the masses will swallow it whole and will slap their latest symbol on their window.
Wonder what will replace the pots and pans?
The fact that it’s ‘not helpful’ didn’t prevent you from doing exactly that with Covidbollox though, did it?
“Nudging” has the opposite effect on me. If the government wish to issue me with “guidance” then I will do the opposite. I don’t think these people appreciate just how much they are hated. I don’t mean disliked, I mean hated. With everything inside of me. They are the antithesis of everything I stand for.
I pledge to go on more holidays, fly more often and eat more meat then I have ever done before in my life because of them. I will do everything I can to ensure my carbon footprint is as large as it can possibly be, because of them.
My sentiments, exactly.
And mine
I don’t take notice of people like him, collaboratively supporting coercive fear and in this statement still doing it!! but pretending he isn’t ……,again.
Precisely so!
I’m currently perusing Autotrader looking at the 6 litre W12 Bentley for exactly the same reason. And I’ve booked three foreign holidays this summer instead of the usual one.
If we all stopped eating meat and stopped flying, Valance would be telling the public they need to drive less and wear their coat indoors, or else the planet gets it.
The Government’s Chief Scientific Adviser Sir Patrick Vallance has said Brits should fly less and eat less meat as part of the “behaviour change” required to achieve Net Zero carbon dioxide emissions by 2050.
behaviour change? well, nothing orwellon about that then,
If I wanted to change someones behaviour without them knowing then Id be in prison, but apparently if your paid by the state then no probs.
I’m not interested in achieving net zero CO2, on the contrary, I think an increase would be beneficial for the planet. So it’s a sirloin steak every day for me and a daily trip in an English Electric Lightning. OK the daily trip in a Lightning is just me daydreaming, but you get the picture.
The reason I don’t eat meat is because I abhor cruelty and exploitation and the causing of suffering to animals.
Wanting the human species to get its act together and put the wretchedness of flesh-munching behind it forever has nothing to do with trying to lower carbon emissions or with the utter fantasy of anthropogenic climate change. But, whaddayaknow, vegetarianism is also much healthier than flesh-eating. Vegetarians live on average about 8 years longer than flesh-munchers.
I beg to differ.
Here is a link to a study that says you’re wrong:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4691673/
CGaF.
I enjoy meat. I work on local farms. They wouldn’t be farms without cattle and sheep.
Its a choice, Man has eaten meat for millenia, we were originally hunter gatherers. It should be a choice, no government or person should dictate to another what they can and cannot eat, likewise what they can and cannot wear etc. The reason we are in the mess and there is so much division is because governments and those of an authoritarian nature have over stepped their position and are trying to dicatate how others live their lives, what they think,eat,do,say etc. Its a choice, respecting the rights of others to choose (within human and moral grounds) is imperative if we are to avoid civil society break down, There are forces such as those who work with Valance who are actively working to make it happen.
There are none so blind as those who cannot see
And they’re feeble and miserable people. Vegetarianism didn’t do Linda McCartney much good, did it?
Animals reared for meat wouldn’t have a life at all were it not for the meat industry. Which is worse? Living and dying or never having life?
Filthy Traitorous Bastard !!!…
A bit short on the eloquence there Freddy. What brought that on?
Vallance will set an example by agreeing to be murdered if he ever flies again.
The people who set the example are the people proposing the restrictions.
Any employee of the WHO, WEF, the UN who ever travels again is murdered. Ditto every single WEF prostitute, every global billionaire and every single elected political leader who has followed this psychopathic Build Back Better criminality.
Boris Johnson will never leave the UK shores again. Nor will John Bell. Nor will Chris Whitty. Nor will Matthew Hancock. Nor will every single NHS Consultant working in a London hospital.
Simple.
Can we please make an exception for Bunter & Wankcock?
The BBC will set an example by cutting the number of employees travelling to Qatar for the World Cup by 50%. Those that do travel will fly economy, stay in tents with the sweaty masses and will forage for food in the desert, ably assisted by desert tribes with expertise in finding food there.
We all know how these parasites view their jollies: a god given right for the sponging classes.
Well, that needs to end and end now.
make it easy in them.
until it is time to make it not so easy on them…
leading the sheep to the slaughterhouse…..
Here’s some ‘specific actions for Patrick Vallance’:
Well said Sir
Funnily enough I have been eating a lot more meat over the last six months or so and feel much better for it. Good quality meat from Eversfield mind. I booked flights to Romania weeks ago and plan to fly long haul this winter. Cheerio Mr Vallance.
We live on a small island. We have to fly to get anywhere in a decent amount of time.
“Tackling climate change” is such an innocent, infantile phrase which suggests that we, in this tiny little island will save the world from a mythical climate disaster. The real disaster for us lies in the Climate Change Act which should be repealed.
Indeed Rowland, I wonder if these people think that the atmosphere is static and we don’t receive “pollution” from the likes of China. There is much evidence to disprove the lie but it needs to be dug out from behind the regular crap. Of course the real objective is to impose absolute control over us by a tyrannical world government.
Absolutely correct, the Climate Change Act of 2008 was effectively an anti-democratic coup carried out by the British state – it grants the government near complete control over energy production and consumption, and that underpins most other private and commercial activities.
All on the basis of an ideologically driven pseudo-science.
“Experts” or indoctrinated fools, liars, manipulators…
I agree with him on flying.
There is no need for anyone to fly anywhere.
Until about 50 years ago human beings lived happily (happier than us today) for hundreds of thousands of years without flying.
If flying ended today globally, the world wouldn’t collapse, the human race would continue as before, no one’s quality of life would be reduced in any profound way. People would realise what a bizarre and pointless behaviour it is.
Well just stay at home (or within terrestrial transport distance) blissfully happy then, and feel nothing but sympathy for those making themselves miserable by jetting off to a sunny Caribbean beach, to visit family in Australia, engage in an important work project, or to view the wonders of Venice over a long weekend…
I don’t tell people how to spend their head earned wedge, e.g. on smoking, drinking, drug taking, online gaming or betting subscriptions etc. etc. So anyone who tells me I cannot fly again deserves a piece of unsawn 4 x 4 inserted into their anal sphincter – without anaesthesia
I am mightily glad I am not married to such a miserable short sighted git.
If he stopped injecting the poison into our kids I might be prepared to listen to him.
Oh wait, no I bloody well won’t. Not ever.
As if this hasn’t been the plan all along…
‘Stay Home, Protect the Planet, Save an Ecosystem’
Valance lives in his own ( or rather the WEF’s ) dream world. Time he took the rest of his career off!
Of course this won’t apply to the Globalist Elite. They will “buy absolution” with Carbon Credits.
I’m not changing my lifestyle to comply with their Climate Crisis Propaganda.
Eating less meat will not save the planet. If Whitty knew anything about agriculture, and he clearly doesn’t, he would know that animals are key to improving the environment. What do I know, I only work in the industry so clearly know nothing and must defer to people like Whitty.
His real title is ‘Chief Scientific Consensus Proselytizer’
We should not aim to frighten people because that’s not helpful”
What was this tosser doing when the ‘nudge unit’ began spewing forth their fearmongering and propaganda about the ‘rona.
Another lying duplicitous barsteward
I’m now eating meat 3x per day because of pr!cks like him
It’s ruddy expensive though but it’s a price I’m willing to pay
environmental nudge unit? FFS, so wear a mask to protect you and your loved ones from a bacon sandwich
How about we start to “Eat the Rich” instead?
maybe, if they stopped raping the countyside and farmland, to build new housing estates.. stopped destroying our ancient woodland for railway lines.. stopped passing bee killing pesticides for use.. stopped councils mowing every grass verge to within an inch of its life, instead of leaving it to seed wildflowers for the bees and bugs..
we should be saving what we already have..
maybe, if they stopped raping the countyside and farmland, to build new housing estates..
Do you really equate house-building in currently non-urban areas (still massively restricted by draconian planning regulations) with rape; and if so have you ever put that to a victim of the crime?
Furthermore all the excessively strict restrictions on house-building in the UK (currently mainly using the misanthropic Green religion as the excuse) are what have led to unsustainable price increases ruling out vast numbers from home ownership, especially the young.
Finally, unless you live in a some sort of temporary accommodation such as a tepee in a forest the home you occupy sits on what was once countryside or farmland. Why would you wish to deprive others of what you enjoy?
stopped destroying our ancient woodland for railway lines
Managing plants and trees for useful purposes, including sometimes clearing them, is the opposite of destructive.
.. stopped passing bee killing pesticides for use..
As a long-term vegetarian I dislike the deliberate taking of any life, including that of tiny creatures. So I much prefer the use of non-destructive methods such as netting and the development of insect resistant strains of plants, including the use of GM. All this must be put into the context of the absolutely vital role that crop growing plays in continuing human existence.
stopped councils mowing every grass verge to within an inch of its life,
Grass is extremely hardy and councils have vast experience in cutting it in such a way that it does not die (which would just lead to the extra trouble and expense of replacement).
instead of leaving it to seed wildflowers for the bees and bugs..
Abandoning land to the chaotic and frequently destructive force called Nature (‘bloody in tooth and claw’) generally leads to an unkept mass of ugly and harmful weeds such as nettles and hogweeds rather than the delightful meadows of wild flowers envisioned by the rose-tinted eco movement.
Also the bees and the bugs have vast, vast areas of non-built on land both inside and outside of urban areas (gardens, parks, forests, farmland, wilderness etc) to do their thing in.
we should be saving what we already have..
We should not only be preserving the massive gifts from previous generations in terms of development (housing, transport, food supplies, medical treatments, educational and leisure facilities etc etc) through the use of conventional science and technology (especially via the fossil fuel based Industrial Revolution) but extending them so that everyone enjoys a very level of material comfort and security.
Not throwing them all away and heading in the backwards and potentially mass murderous direction indicated by the environmentalist creed with its pseudo-scientific Climate Change weapon of mass destruction.
Policies to reach Net Zero by 2050
Well just abolish the arbitrary target -its total nonsense and only legally binding because our useless Govt made its so after a 10 min parliamentary debate .Its now taken on the status of some immutable date after which the world will end.
He would be of greater benefit to society if he spoke less!
Who do these people think they are! Government Science Chief is a joke as the Global Warming agenda is an absolute con! He needs to follow the science for once.
<i>”…some urgent collectivist goal identified by the experts with their models…”
Which they have been peddling since “Earth Day” 1972, none of the dire prognostications of which have yet showed any sign whatsoever of transpiring.
Also interesting to note that the first several years’ dire predictions concerned famines, epidemics and so forth caused by an imminent Ice Age brought on by excess anthropogenic particulate emissions.
Bugger off you infandous, criminal numpty.
When we worked together at GSK, the then CMO, Prof Vallence, would fly almost weekly to the US.
More often than not to pointless meetings which could have been done equally well on the phone. His ‘seniority” meant that he flew BA First class (good for the air miles). I slummed it in Club – TBH.
In the spirit of full transparency, I wonder if the now Sir Vallence would share his BA flying history (easily downloaded from ba.com) and its associated carbon footprint.
I dare say its been a whole lot easier for him to recently reduce his flying. Making it illegal to leave the country may have helped if he took any notice of that, of course.
Perhaps now though hardworking mum and dad would still like to take the kids to Spain for a bit of sun each year.
For God”s sake Vallence, would you just do us all a favour and do one.
A very foolish man who has sold his soul. Condescending bastard ‘individuals need to know what’s is expected of them’ and your the man to tells us I suppose. When the majority realise just exactly what you have done they’ll likely rip limb from limb.
Memorandum to BBC sport 29th April 2022 from the Director General:
‘Dear Colleagues
Given the chameleon-like support that this organisation has given to all utterances of Messrs Whitty and Vallance the past two years, it is my solemn duty to inform you all that we are going to have to cut back somewhat on the gloriously riotous jollies we are able to call ‘going to work’.
I’m afraid it’s going to be politically unacceptable for 200 of you to pig out in Qatar (particularly as they are Muslims) this December, much less get put up in 5 star hotels, get flown in first class and toddle off to play golf on courses using up more water in a day than the area gets in rainfall in a year.
The license fee payors just won’t wear it, I’m afraid. Sunak has told them their heating bills will triple, their taxes will be hiked, their mortgages will go through the roof. So the sight of us lot getting royally wined and dined at the World Cup in our dozens and dozens isn’t going to go down too well, I’m afraid. Not to put too fine a point on it, I wouldn’t expect BBC sport offices in either London or Salford to survive 500,000 football supporters ‘voicing their displeasure at the BBC porkers taking the piss’.
So, I’m afraid that staffing for the trip is going to be cut by 50%, we are flying economy (all of us, including you, Lineker) and we will all be staying in the Arabian Equivalent of Youth Hostels (where we cook our own evening meals just like all the taxpayers have to every night of every week of the year).
I am outraged at this appalling destruction of British Culture (the centuries of gluttonous entitlement and freebies is what made our country Great, after all) but I’ve had Johnson’s wife crushing my balls to a pulp over this one. Carrie Antoinette is pretty feisty when it comes to air miles, stuffing your faces and handing the taxpayer the bill. It leaves less for her to redecorate Downing Street three times during hubbie’s sojourn there, after all.
This is an appalling intrusion on the independence of the BBC and I have to say that if it were the Labour Party, I would have had no problems blackmailing them to the eyeballs.
But seeing as how Johnson is a US puppet, things are a bit more tricky. They’ve been blackmailing us for two decades now and they really, really want to buy us out and turn us into a European version of CNN. War has broken out for crimes less serious than that….
At least you girls on the jolly won’t have to cover your faces totally. I’ve had it on good authority that as long as you remain segregated from the locals, all will be well. But no getting shit-faced over there glugging Scotch if we don’t want Wembley stadium forcibly sold to the Qataris to prevent you all getting 50 lashes and 5 years in some appalling dungeon out there.
I’m sorry that the gravy train at the BBC is now getting challenged globally, but we must ‘go again’ as they say in football. Regroup, organise ourselves better to ensure that Royal Ascot, Wimbledon, the Masters, the Superbowl and lots lots more besides are ours to enjoy flying first class, staying in five star hotels and eating Michelin-standard food on expenses.
That which does not kill the squid makes its parasitic tendencies stronger.
Yours in Friendship and Gluttony
Tim Davie DG’
The man’s insane.