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Reform Banned From Discussing Southport ‘Attacker’ in Parliament, Nigel Farage Reveals

by Will Jones
1 November 2024 3:37 PM

Reform MPs have been banned from asking questions about the teenager accused of the Southport massacre in Parliament, Nigel Farage has revealed, amid concerns about the public being kept in the dark. The Telegraph has the story.

Mr. Farage has accused Sir Keir Starmer of using fear “to shut down public debate that he considers inconvenient”, after Axel Rudakubana was charged with a terror offence.

Writing for the Telegraph, the Reform U.K. leader describes how MPs were silenced when they wanted to raise the matter in the Commons, including “panicked emails” and phone calls telling them not to ask questions about the case.

He said: “It is impossible to infer anything other than that the apparatus of state are being used to manage this situation.”

The announcement that Mr Rudakubana, 18, was being charged with possessing a military study of an Al-Qaeda training manual and producing the poison ricin has prompted a debate about the public’s right to know following the killing of three young girls at a dance class in July. …

Mr. Farage writes in the Telegraph: “The day after the three Southport killings, I could see that certain key facts about this atrocity had fallen into a vacuum. This had led to unhelpful online speculation. It struck me as vital for the public to know more…

“I understand the importance of not prejudicing a future trial, but in the current climate there appears to be no room to separate the ongoing legal process from the questions that I posed over the summer. This is deeply troubling.”

Mr. Farage says he submitted a written question to Yvette Cooper, the Home Secretary, asking if the accused had ever been referred to the counter-terrorism Prevent initiative, but was told by the Commons authorities that he could not ask about the matter because of the ongoing court case.

After the new charges were brought against the accused, police and prosecutors made clear the stabbings are not being treated as an act of terrorism.

Sir Keir, a former Director of Public Prosecutions, has not revealed when he and other Ministers first knew of the discovery of terror material and ricin said to have been in Mr. Rudakubana’s possession.

Mr. Farage said that on Wednesday his Reform U.K. colleague Richard Tice was selected to ask a question of Sir Keir at Prime Minister’s Questions in the Commons.

He writes: “That morning, he received three panicked emails from the Commons authorities asking what the content of his question might be. Then, an hour before PMQs began, he received a telephone call in which he was told not to ask anything about the man accused of the Southport attacks. This point was reinforced strenuously by the Speaker in the Commons just before PMQs began. Parliamentary Privilege was effectively withdrawn.

“For now, therefore, it seems that nobody is allowed to ask in the proper forum when the Government first knew that the accused was to face the ricin and terror material charges.

“Likewise, nobody can know whether this man was known to the authorities in any way. Do we really want to live in a society where such crucial information is kept from the public? Who decided these details should remain secret?

“I believe this apparent suppression damages democracy. It certainly shreds public trust, leading me to ask myself: what is the point of being a public representative if even we are not allowed to ask what would previously have been considered reasonable questions? It is impossible to infer anything other than that the apparatus of state are being used to manage this situation.”

The Government’s terrorism tsar, Jonathan Hall KC, has said that “more information could have been put out safely without comprising potential criminal proceedings”.

Worth reading in full.

Tags: CensorshipFree SpeechKeir StarmerMass immigrationNigel FarageParliamentReformRichard TiceRiotsSouthport

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago

It’s never been that clear to me what “covid” is – a ragbag of symptoms that evolved over time, much like many other vague illnesses, and a “test” that was suspiciously rushed out, forced on people and used for political purposes with little consistency of criteria. So I am equally unclear what “Long Covid” is – how do you tell if you “have” “it”? I guess if you have a “viral illness” sometimes you don’t fully recover immediately but the effects can drag on for some time – I believe that’s a known phenomenon – let’s call it “Long Flu”. Does “Long Covid” differ from “Long Flu” in its effects? How “long” is “long”? How prevalent is “Long Flu”? Is “Long Covid” more or less prevalent or debilitating than “Long Flu”? I can quite believe that these “vaccines” make people less healthy, but without answers to some or all of my questions, I can’t attach any significance to talk of “Long Covid”.

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Marque1
Marque1
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Post viral fatigue, Yuppie Flu, etc. were some of the names for it.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Marque1

Indeed – they may well be a “thing” but if “long covid” hasn’t really added to the prevalence, length or severity of “post viral fatigue” in the same way that “covid” wasn’t much more than a bad flu season, why do we care about “long covid” or even give this particular form of “post viral fatigue” a special name?

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Mogwai
Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Well I test positive for ‘Long Over Covid’ because I’m well and truly long over it, I tell you.🥱 In fact, I’m trying to envisage a time in the near future when the dratted C word will no longer be a part of every day parlance, as far as the stupid press go anyway. Nobody I know even mentions the word anymore, to be honest.
I also want to fast-forward to a time when the word “lockdown” is once again only ever mentioned in the context of prisons.😶

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Lol.

Until recently it was rarely mentioned in my presence, but as I stated elsewhere Christmas seems to have caused a Pavlovian bout of covidians testing themselves.

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greggsy01
greggsy01
1 year ago

Long Covid is more likely an excuse for staying at home having hand outs from the government. The very same people who loved being locked up in their houses while on furlough

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FerdIII
FerdIII
1 year ago
Reply to  greggsy01

‘Long’ – scary viruses living forever – waiting to attack you.
Long smallpox.
Long polio.
Long syphillis.
Long STD.
Longest stupid.

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
1 year ago

Ah, Long Covid.
Mainly suffered by Guardian readers.
Stop reading the thing and, voila, you will become healed.

IMHO, one of the key questions should be whether or not said apparent sufferers read the Guardian or not.

Mass psychosis at its finest.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
1 year ago

You can get a dose of it way higher than normal exposure through shedding. I never took the vax obviously but I have had persistent illness ever since 2021. Might be other environmental factors but I developed huge overnight sores in my mouth so extreme that two of my erstwhile health teeth fell out. And the attack on my mouth was immensely painful like a huge gaping wound. Similar sort of tissue in the upper palate as the heart and Mr Spike has a predilection for it. I can forgive the vaxxed for this. The masses never know what they do. The overlords are a different matter entirely of course.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
1 year ago

It sounds odd but some of the more damaging effects of this pathogen can be stopped by tricyclic antidepressants. Just google it if you are interested. I used that method with remarkable success. 30 mg of dothiepin stopped the attack and the pain and the further assault. This strange interaction has been noted and studied if you look it up.

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