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Is the Government Giving Special Terms to Renewable Energy Companies Run by its Cronies?

by David Turver
11 September 2024 8:13 PM

Regular readers will remember the recent article on the Allocation Round 6 (AR6) results for supplying renewable energy to the grid. After publication, I had a conversation that prompted me to take a closer look at the contracts awarded under the Permitted Reduction Scheme – the ‘loophole’ provision that allows companies to re-submit the same projects under later rounds to get a better deal. Let us take a look at what I found.

According to the Contract for Difference microsite, a maximum of 25% of the original capacity of a project can be withdrawn from its original contract and rebid under the Permitted Reduction Scheme part of AR6.

If we now look at Hornsea Project Three Offshore Wind Farm, it was originally awarded a contract in AR4 with a total capacity of 2,852MW (see Figure 1).

Figure 1 - Hornsea Project Three Original AR4 Contract for 2,852MW
Figure 1 – Hornsea Project Three Original AR4 Contract for 2,852MW

This original capacity is confirmed on the contract database of the Low Carbon Contract Company (LCCC). The LCCC database also shows that the withdrawn capacity is 705.9MW, or 24.8% of the original capacity which is slightly below the 25% limit.

If we turn now to the AR6 results, we can see that Hornsea Project Three was awarded three individual contracts under the Permitted Reduction Scheme of 360MW each, giving a total of 1,080MW (see Figure 2).

Figure 2 - Hornsea Project Three AR6 Permitted Reductions 1,080MW
Figure 2 – Hornsea Project Three AR6 Permitted Reductions 1,080MW

This 1,080MW represents 37.9% of the original capacity, which is well in excess of the 25% limit. The contract conditions (see 6.2 on p82) for AR4 say that if the company tries to adjust the capacity to less than 75% of the original then the request for adjustment will be invalid, meaning the original contract terms apply. The obvious question therefore arises: why has Hornsea Project Three been awarded Permitted Reduction Contracts above the 25% limit?

I approached the DESNZ Press Office on Sunday for an answer but have not yet received a reply. In the absence of an official response, we can piece together information from other sources to try and shed some light on the issue.

Hornsea Project Three is owned by Ørsted and Hornsea Project Four, also owned by Ørsted, was the biggest beneficiary of AR6 winning a contract for a 2,400MW project. It is probably just accidental that Baroness Brown is a Non-Executive Director of Ørsted and is a member of its Asset Project Committee (see Figure 3).

Figure 3 - Baroness Brown Non-Executive Director Of Orsted
Figure 3 – Baroness Brown Non-Executive Director Of Orsted

Coincidentally, the Baroness warned in May that the prices on offer in AR6 “may not be appealing enough” and said that the then Tory “Government needs to be a bit more generous and a bit more flexible”.  Baroness Brown is also the chair of the Carbon Trust, which until recently employed Chris Stark as its Chief Executive. Mr. Stark is now Head of Mission Control in DESNZ, tasked with “turbocharging [the] U.K. to clean power by 2030”. Chris Stark and Baroness Brown have quite a close relationship because Baroness Brown also sits on the Climate Change Committee, where Stark was CEO until earlier this year. Stark is also listed as a member of Baroness Brown’s staff in her register of interests in the House of Lords (see Figure 4).

Figure 4 - Chris Stark is Baroness Brown Staffer
Figure 4 – Chris Stark is Baroness Brown Staffer

It is certainly a strange coincidence that the Government should apparently break its own rules and award Permitted Reduction Contracts in excess of the limit to Hornsea Project Three, when a director of the owner Ørsted just happens to have a very close relationship with DESNZ’s Head of Mission Control. In the absence of any other explanation, the proverbial person on the Clapham omnibus would probably conclude that these awards amount to contracts for cronies.

I have submitted an FOI request to DESNZ requesting details of contacts between the department and representatives of Ørsted during the AR6 process. It will be interesting to see how this story develops when the press office responds and the results of the FOI request are published.

David Turver writes the Eigen Values Substack page, where this article first appeared. The podcast version of this article can be found on these links to Spotify, Apple and YouTube.

Tags: Chris StarkEnergy IndustryGovernment contractsHouse of LordsNet ZeroRenewable energy

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Ceriain
Ceriain
3 years ago

New Covid infections

Will, repeat after me:

Positive PCR tests are NOT infections! They are Positive PCR tests!
Positive PCR tests are NOT infections! They are Positive PCR tests!
Positive PCR tests are NOT infections! They are Positive PCR tests!
Positive PCR tests are NOT infections! They are Positive PCR tests!

Now, over to you.

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Splattt
Splattt
3 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

You missed the bit about the surge in hospitalisations and deaths?

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rockoman
rockoman
3 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

The usual summer heat bump in hospitalizations and mortality, as every year.

Probably aggravated by the fact that those with falling incomes, due to lockdown etc, are unable to afford to keep their aircon on as much as when their incomes were higher,

The article stresses that this ‘wave’ is in the southern states, where temperatures are of course higher.

Last edited 3 years ago by rockoman
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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

Stress is the second biggest risk factor for Covid. Lockdowns and restrictions cause stress.

I am still waiting for news of overall mortality in South Dakota compared to other states. That for me would be a good test. (Belarus too, if you can get reliable information).
And what about the countries/areas with the lowest “vaccination” rates? How is their mortality standing up compared to previous years?

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Lockdowns also hurt the immune system more directly, by making them flabby for lack of exercise. An immune system keeps fit by fighting off infectious agents from other people.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

And not forgetting that people who don’t go out as much have less exposure to sunlight and thus have less Vitamin D (unless they are taking supplements).

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Ah yes, a carrot a day keeps the virus away. You can also wave your arms. All those deaths in ICU wards are because the fools skipped their carrots and arm waves! Obviously!

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Strawman argument. Vitamin D (and other vitamins and trace elements) and exercise strengthen the immune system – only a fool would believe otherwise.

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

The key insight here is these silly measures are not enough to prevent any infection. Otherwise we would already have noted and declared them a cure. Trust me, there was plenty of vitamin D going on in Delhi, and the people there also are lean and do walk every day quite a bit compared with those fat slogs in the West.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Boosting the immune system is a ‘silly measure’? When you shake your head vigorously, have you ever wondered what causes the knocking sound?

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

My understanding about India:

  • they have a much lower IFR than Britain;
  • there are serious pollution problems in some Indian cities;
  • there is an issue of poor diet among many of the poor in India;
  • there is an issue of poor health provision in India;
  • there was an issue with local climatic conditions at that time of year;
  • The large Hindu population had recently been bathing in a dirty river in crowded conditions;
  • Indian cities suffer from relatively crowded, unsanitary conditions.

Is this correct? Note also that Norway and Finland, which famously did “better” than neighbours Sweden (and Denmark) have a particularly high rate of vitamin D in the population.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Also, what happened to the predictions of the populations of India and Brazil being “Wiped out”?

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FarligGods
FarligGods
3 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

Obviously never happened so they stopped reporting… Nothing there for any further scaremongering

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

If it doesn’t bleed, it doesn’t lead.

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chris c
chris c
3 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

Most (not all) of India uses Ivermectin. Does Brazil?

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago
Reply to  chris c

No idea, does anyone else know?

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
3 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

India:
” Cases in Delhi, where Ivermectin was begun on April 20, dropped from 28,395 to just 2,260 on May 22. This represents an astounding 92% drop. Likewise, cases in Uttar Pradesh have dropped from 37,944 on April 24 to 5,964 on May 22 – a decline of 84%. 

Delhi and Uttar Pradesh followed the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS) guidance published April 20, 2021, which called for dosing of .2 mg per kg of Ivermectin per body weight for three days. This amounts to 15 mg per day for a 150-pound person or 18 mg per day for a 200-pound individual.

The other three Indian states that adopted it are all down as well. Goa is down from 4,195 to 1,647, Uttarakhand is down from 9,624 to 2,903, and Karnataka is down from 50,112 to 31,183. Goa adopted a pre-emptive policy of mass Ivermectin prevention for the entire adult population over age 18 at a dose of 12 mg daily for five days.

Meanwhile, Tamil Nadu announced on May 14 they were outlawing Ivermectin in favor of the politically correct Remdesivir. As a result, Tamil Nadu’s cases are up in the same time frame from April 20 to May 22 – 10,986 to 35,873 – more than a tripling.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/ivermectin-new-penicillin”

Argentina:
https://rumble.com/vjbmg7-the-case-for-ivermectin-craig-kelly-mp.html

Most remarkable is the statistic on ivermectin used as prophylaxis. In a randomised, controlled trial of prophylaxis in hospital staff in Argentina, it yielded a 100% protection against covid19.
If ivermectin was taken, no one developed the illness.
Brazil- depends on the state, most state governors oppose Bolsonaro and therefore block IVM apparently.

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

Thank you for that comprehensive and illuminating reply.

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

Likewise UK cases have been halved within a week. With no Ivermectin use whatsoever.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

How do you know that no ivermectin has been used? I’ve got some and I know plenty of people who have it, too.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

“an astounding 92% drop after ivermectin was begun”.

As you won’t hear on the BBC…

I wonder what it would take for Peking Piffle to listen, never mind act appropriately on this?

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

I dunno, did you invent these predictions yourself?

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Fingerache Philip

Turns out that rumours of India’s death have been greatly exaggerated. Their official figures are equivalent to about twenty one thousand UK Covid deaths – if you believe such estimates. You can actually go onto Worldometer’s India population page and watch the population steadily increasing from about 1,395 million.

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mishmash
mishmash
3 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

And the annual ‘July Effect‘ being a factor.
For those who don’t know what that is – junior doctors starting residency in July, making mistakes and increasing mortality rates. Happens every year, and it was exploited last year to fit the Covid narrative as well.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

That’s an excellent observation!

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

In the case of Florida at least, the July effect is very small (see attached image). Last July Florida peaked at 50% excess all cause mortality. That’s an enormous increase. Furthermore it has remained with a large all cause excess mortality ever since. https://covid19florida.mystrikingly.com/deaths

florida deaths by month.png
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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

What summer heat bump? Deaths in the Southern US States usually peak in the winter just like the other states but less pronounced (different of course last year).

Source of chart: http://www.flpublichealth.com/VSprov/rdPage.aspx?rdReport=ProvReports&radReport=T16&drpYear=2019

florida deaths by month.png
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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

Explain why there are currently no delta wave hospitalizations in southern Europe then, Sherlock. Highest temperatures ever.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

Hospitalisations for what reason?

Deaths from what?

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BungleIsABogan
BungleIsABogan
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

You mustn’t ask those questions, the answers will spoil the story!
Lol.

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Laurence
Laurence
3 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

You missed the bit about the 99.97% of the under 75s who survived (and 99% of the over 75s compared to over 10% who die every year anyway)

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Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
3 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

Never let the truth spoil a good story.

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philipat
philipat
3 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

So here inside this article is a chart of the latest US data for “new cases” (that is, a positive PCR test) and daily deaths (WITH Covid but not necessarily FROM Covid). Draw your own conclusions there appears to be no increase in deaths, suggesting again that the “Delta variant” has been over-hyped as part of the ongoing FEAR!!! campaign.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/experts-move-goalposts-declare-herd-immunity-threshold-now-90-due-delta

 

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lordsnooty
lordsnooty
3 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

perhaps Ceriain thinks people are dying of pcr tests?

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  lordsnooty

It’s hard to know exactly what people are dying of. That information is probably deliberately obfuscated.

That’s why the only meaningful approach is to look at all-cause mortality and see if anything exceptional is happening. Which at the moment it is not, and taking 2020 and 2021 as a whole there is not. There was a notable increase in 2020 spring, and again in early 2021 in the UK. The first increase one could term the “first wave” of covid, the second correlates with the vaccine rollout.

Having established that not much exceptional is happening, one ought to move on and go back to 2019 and look into effective treatments for covid and forget all the other nonsense that costs trillions and doesn’t work

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

The government killed many people by the following mechanisms:

1) fast tracking so called “covid” patients to mechanical ventilators. Reports from New York suggest that more than 80% of those ventilated in the first wave died – see section 3 of this link https://ccpgloballockdownfraud.medium.com/the-chinese-communist-partys-global-lockdown-fraud-88e1a7286c2b

2) using novel toxic so called “antiviral” drug Remdesivir to make it look as if people were developing pneumonia when it was actually the drugs causing kidney failure which led to what looked like pneumonia but which was actually pulmonary adema. Remdesivir is still being used int the UK for covid but the much safer ivermectin is BANNED. Dr Bryan Ardis has provided great information on – see this interview https://www.bitchute.com/video/jv3GSOcoIGCP/

3) killing people in the nursing homes with Midazolam and morphine, starvation, dehydration, and outright neglect – see this lawyer’s account for information going back months https://twitter.com/awakenedof

4) preventing access to basic medical treatment and screenings by making the Nazified Health Service a one disease only organisation. Everyone else was left to rot and die and basically told they were not important unless they had “covid”

5) terrorising people and creating an overall atmosphere of fear and despair

Last edited 3 years ago by ComeTheRevolution
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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  ComeTheRevolution

Apricot kernels are banned from being sold as a food by the EU whilst chemotherapy is encouraged. To me, I must say this (and many other acts that can be traced back to big pharma) look like a reckless and criminal pursuit of profit. Ivermectin being banned fits the pattern.

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David101
David101
3 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

They are also based on PCR test results.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

There is no such ‘bit’ (aka ‘evidence’) – just the usual tittle-tattle.

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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
3 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

doesn’t explain if the ‘well below’ peak deaths are in the very elderly with many other illnesses or in the healthy – is the FL all cause deaths much higher than the norm? people will continue to die of old age with or without sars 2

Mary Mayhew, head of Florida’s hospital association, said the latest surge sent hospitalisations rising to 10,000 from 2,000 in less than 30 days, although deaths have remained well below peak numbers.

Last edited 3 years ago by Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

You missed the bit where it was asserted in passing but not quantified or evidenced.

That’s not how we work round these here parts.

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

Yes, obviously, the morons frequenting this site cannot understand that, until maybe they land in a hospital themselves (but I suspect they would explain it away as “stress” or “heat” while gasping for air in ICU).

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MikeAustin
MikeAustin
3 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

With vax adverse reaction symptoms due to spike protein appearing similar to covid symptoms and likely being picked up by dodgy tests as covid, how many of these actually are covid?

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Stop hyping the surge we all know the ultimate plan

I Tried My Best To Warn You This Was Going To Happen -Almost two years ago I published an article on the Gab News blog about Silicon Valley building a social credit system for the West. By Andrew Torba
https://news.gab.com/2021/08/02/i-tried-my-best-to-warn-you-this-was-going-to-happen/

Stand in South Hill Park Bracknell every Sunday from 10am meet fellow anti lockdown freedom lovers, keep yourself sane, make new friends and have a laugh.

Join our Stand in the Park – Bracknell – Telegram Group
http://t.me/astandintheparkbracknell

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago
Reply to  Lockdown Sceptic

Andrew Torba nails it. I have seen a few articles around a similar theme from a slightly different angle: that this is the state fighting back against the technological revolutions that are making it less and less relevant, trying to keep itself in the picture.

Back in the ’70s Anthony DeJasay wrote a groundbreaking book called The State, which posited that the state could be thought of as, in effect, a person, with motivations and desires of its own. What is going on definitely seems to be a kind of temper tantrum of something that is losing its grip.

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FarligGods
FarligGods
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Torba speaks some sense but he’s way over the top pushing his religion and that puts a number of people off I’m afraid…

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Positive PCT tests in the UK went from about 2,000 a day in May to over 50,000 in July. Do we really think that there was a sudden rise and now a sudden fall in false positives?

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

“Positive PCT tests in the UK went from about 2,000 a day in May to over 50,000 in July.”

I’m not overly bothered about false positives. Let’s assume for the sake of argument that there are some false positives but that there are not many, so the rise if a genuine rise in something or other.

What does this rise tell us? What action should we take as a result of such a rise?

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

By something or other you presumably mean an infection of some kind? The answer presumably is to identify it and try to limit it. Luckily we do a lot of genomic sequencing in the UK so we have a pretty good idea what the infection is. We already know the many things we are trying to do to limit it.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

“By something or other you presumably mean an infection of some kind?”

I have no idea. You tell me. My default position is that these statistics are largely meaningless, for a long list of reasons all of which have been discussed ad nauseam on this forum since March 2020.

Imagine you are the PM. Someone tells you +ve PCR tests have gone from 2,000 to 50,000 in the space of 3 months. What do you do, or not do, as a result, and why?

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I have no idea. You tell me. 

Well the obvious explanation is that the number of +ve test results have gone up and down so sharply because there of an outbreak of Coronavirus infection. The tests look for a protein sequence that is unique to the virus. Genomic sequencing of samples with positive results reveals the virus is present. Virus infections can increase and decrease extremely quickly. People are ending up in hospital with a diagnosis of Covid with about a two week lag.

In the absence of an alternative explanation it seems overwhelming likely that this is the correct one.

Imagine you are the PM. Someone tells you +ve PCR tests have gone from 2,000 to 50,000 in the space of 3 months. What do you do, or not do, as a result, and why?

That is a different question. I would accept that the tests indicate a rise in Coronavirus infections – it seems blindingly obvious. There are many possible responses and I don’t have time to go down that rabbit hole.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

What is the significance of a “coronavirus infection”?
What exactly is a “diagnosis of covid” and what is its significance?

I would contend that very little of this information is meaningful, useful, or accurate. And that is intentional.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Simple bottom line : a PCR test cannot detect infection.

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Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I guess if you keep testing very elderly peeps there will always be a decent ”died within 28 days of a positive test” count as peeps die of old age – genius really

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

What does that mean? How close does the link have to be between condition and test before you will accept it? Consider

  • The PSA test for prostate cancer
  • The fecal blood test for bowel cancer
  • The antigen/antibody test for HIV

They are all in standard use round the world. None of them test directly for the condition but have a probabilistic relationship – very similar to the Covid PCR test.

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

The significance is twofold. One you can pass it on to others – which is about the only way you can explain the speedy up and down. Two there is a chance of becoming very unwell.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Yes, covid is caused by an infectious virus and it can make you very ill/kill you.

The connection with PCR testing stats on random sections of the population done with varying degrees of sensitivity with the reality of the virus & the illness it causes is tenuous to say the least, and even if there is some kind of connection, how useful this information is in informing public policy is debatable given that most/all of the measures are futile. At best, mass testing might give you a 2-week head start in how many hospital beds are likely to be needed, but the link is shaky.

There’s only any point in measuring things if those measures are used to make decisions with, decisions that help the situation. That hasn’t happened.

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I still ask – what better explanation do you have for the positive test results than a wave of infections?

I might add – do you deny that a wave of infections would lead to a wave of positive test results?

I will leave the question of how useful that knowledge is to another time.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Depends what you mean by infection. Does this “infection” make you ill? I think we can say it does, sometimes, but not that often. It may sometimes make you ill enough to feel ill, sometimes ill enough to be infectious to others and sometimes ill enough to go to hospital because of the infection (and not for other reasons). Do the statistics we currently get shown tell us what proportion of these positive tests leads to the various outcomes described? I don’t think so. It’s meaningless. “Knowledge” – well it’s knowledge that X thousand people returned a positive result for a test, but it’s without context. Yet it makes the headlines.

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

By an infection I mean the virus is sufficiently established to pass it on to someone else. Symptoms are not required.

Meanwhile I note that you still have not provided any kind of alternative explanation for the wave in positive tests.

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Malcolm Ramsay
Malcolm Ramsay
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

The tests look for a protein sequence that is unique to the virus.

Can you tell us how it was established that the protein sequence being looked for is unique to this virus?

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Samurai Jack
Samurai Jack
3 years ago
Reply to  Malcolm Ramsay

No they can’t, partial sequence in the original China paper that the WHO followed.. In that paper, a PCR test with a CT over 34 or higher actually

Plot twist, we have the genomic sequences in our bodies already..

Virusesarenotcontagious.com

The cell creates a virus, its the ‘clean up crew’ created by the cell to eliminate the last of the toxicity present..

Its specific to each individual human, isn’t contagious, and any replication of symptoms in people close to each other isn’t down to the virus..

It might well be the releasing of toxicity from a person which induces the same symptoms, but it’s certainly not a virus – the level of toxin in a virus to induce symptoms would have to be so large, what can kill can also cure – dosage is the key no?

Besides, is a virus alive, dead, innate.. If its alive and comes out of our body, what keeps it alive?

It has no nucleus, respiratory system or digestive tract

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Samurai Jack
Samurai Jack
3 years ago
Reply to  Samurai Jack

Just to add.. Our body will detoxify at different stages, a cyclic basis perhaps.. Hence flu season as we call it..

Changes in temp, humidity, pressure, season et al can all instigate or signal the body to dump it’s toxins

Symptoms that appear to be contagious are to do with the level of toxicity in the environment, if we live, eat, breathe and sleep together.. Chances are we will detoxify in the same periods..

If we didn’t detoxify, we’d probably be dead…

In the same instance, if it was a killes virus, never seen before, anyone that caught it would experience the same level of infection, end result..

The diamond cruise ship, worldometers stats, they tell me, there was already pre existing immunity in the population.. Judging by the petri dish environment and only 13 from over 800 passengers who died with, of or involving?

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  Malcolm Ramsay

OK. I guess it is possible that viral RNA crops up elsewhere and the scientific world didn’t know about it. However, we are talking sequences of 60 odd base pairs (https://www.fda.gov/media/138818/download). It would be quite an extraordinary coincidence if such a sequence came from another source.

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Samurai Jack
Samurai Jack
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

In the July 2020 CDC ‘RT PCR’ PDF, page 38 maybe? ?

Since there are no available quantified isolates of the 2019 NCov virus available at the time of this report

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rayc
rayc
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Stop trying to talk sense int o people who have long committed to nonsense and are ready to defend it at all cost to maintain their beliefs.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  rayc

I thought we were leaving this site for your own mental health?

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djaustin
djaustin
3 years ago
Reply to  Malcolm Ramsay

Just a point of infomation – the PCR tests for THREE separate sections of mRNA from three different parts of the viral genome; Spike, Nucleocapsid and Orf (open reading frame). The sequences are tested against gene banks for homology to other sequences. So yes, I am afraid that they have been tested for uniqueness against all species in the gene bank (of all species tested to date). That notwithstanding, for 60 base pairs the probability that having three separate matches to three different areas of the genome is vanishingly small and effectively zero.

UK variant did not amplify the S gene. All others have done so.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Genome sequencing does not reveal presence of viruses. It determines the base structure of some bit of RNA (or DNA). Presence of viruses can be established by successful cultivation of them from a sample.

The official “Get tested now!”-leaftlet I got a while back stated that people who had a positive PCR test in the last 90 days should not get tested again to avoid false positives. Consequently, 50.000 people testing positive means they were probably infected with Sars-CoV2 at some random time during the last 3 months.

Lastly, considering the extremely low number (about 0.08% of the population of the UK) and that these ‘cases’ were distributed all over England, the most likely explanation for sudden rises and falls is happened to test someone who was infected within the lasy 90 days by chance.

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

“ the most likely explanation for sudden rises and falls is happened to test someone who was infected within the lasy 90 days by chance.”

We were going along at a fairly consistent 2000 a day for a couple of months. Then it shot up to 50,000 in the course of one month because they happened by chance to test 48,000 people who had the virus sometime in the last 90 days – while presumably failing to do that consistently for two months beforehand?

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

An infection that isn’t particularly deadly for anyone in good health. Even the official data show that an 85-year-old who develops Covid-19 has a 95% of survival.

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chris c
chris c
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

That’s the thing that has been missing all along. Covid causes severe disease and death in a minority of the population. How to not be in that minority is where emphasis should have been all along.

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

“What does this rise tell us?”

A surge in bits of RNA that have a questionable relationship to any virus.

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Norman
Norman
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Without knowing whether they kept the number of cycles at the same level for testing during those periods your statistic is meaningless.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

It depends what you think they’re testing for.

If 45 cycles was testing for active disease, it would be significant. If it’s picking up fragments that represent non-symptomatic levels, or remnants after recovery, super, that’s what you’d expect from any endemic coronavirus.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

And PCR tests don’t work!. When will they ever learn?

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BungleIsABogan
BungleIsABogan
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Never.

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ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
3 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Great lesson about PCR from real expert:

Prof Ulrike Kämmerer : Doctors for Covid Ethics Symposium – Day 1
https://www.bitchute.com/video/YwCYrYUBmINa/

Great information looking at data which suggests strongly the notion that there was a pandemic is a fraud:

Prof Denis Rancourt : Doctors for Covid Ethics Symposium – Day 1
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gbbG9pgWInee/

Last edited 3 years ago by ComeTheRevolution
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Londo Mollari
Londo Mollari
3 years ago

The vaccine is the variant.

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago

Rolling out vaccines in the teeth of a pandemic is a great way of creating new, vaccine resistant, variants, especially with RNA viruses. The emphasis should always have been on treatments, not vaccines. Pfizer obviously realize this as are they bringing out such a treatment in tablet form. Probably a mix of Ivermectin and enough of something else to make it patentable and able to be sold at 1000X of cost. Another nice little earner.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

or a quinone harvested from the Nigella seeds, can’t be the one used in Tonic or malaria tablets though as that one got studies (and fraud) designed to make it look ineffective.

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Rogerborg
Rogerborg
3 years ago
Reply to  Brett_McS

Halt, promoting antibody dependent enhancement is a dangerous conspiracy theo-

[Checks weekend notes]

Correction, antibody dependent enhancement is now factual and terrifying, which is why we need more vaccines and more lockdowns. As you were.

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svetlana-uvarova
svetlana-uvarova
3 years ago

If it had twice the chance of natural covid to kill us, there would now be, what, 3m dead vaccine recipients?

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

Stop hyping the surge we all know the ultimate plan

I Tried My Best To Warn You This Was Going To Happen -Almost two years ago I published an article on the Gab News blog about Silicon Valley building a social credit system for the West. By Andrew Torba
https://news.gab.com/2021/08/02/i-tried-my-best-to-warn-you-this-was-going-to-happen/

Stand in South Hill Park Bracknell every Sunday from 10am meet fellow anti lockdown freedom lovers, keep yourself sane, make new friends and have a laugh.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago

Free states, hold your nerve.

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Laurence
Laurence
3 years ago

Always remember two things:

We are the lucky ones who defied the odds to survive the deadly virus in 2020 – that makes me one of just 99.97% of those under 75 (although 100,000 under 75s died from other causes). My 3 kids all survived despite the higher but still horrific slaughter of 0.0005% of the under 30s last year !

THIS IS NOT FLU. Well, not if you live in an affluent Western country – Interesting figures shown by Simon Wood this morning ( a statistician who believes in Statistics as opposed to the promotion of government policy) showing that flu and pneumonia killed more people than COVID worldwide in 2020. But even in the UK, excess deaths in 2020 were 54,600 (per Institute and Faculty of Actuaries – AAMR basis) including those killed needlessly by the lockdown, whereas we had 51,000 excess deaths in the Winter of 2017/18 (per ONS).

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Laurence

Boris: “IT’S OBVIOUSLY AN EMERGENCY LOCK EVERYONE UP!!!”

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A Y M
A Y M
3 years ago

Still feel you are playing their game here.
This isn’t a football match where we watch the game and try and guess who might win, The game is being rigged right in front of you. The Ref is constantly lying and the commentators are gaslighting you telling you a handball is not happening when the opposing side is carrying the ball in both hands.
I really liked this site for a long time but it hasn’t progressed and noticed the rigged game and figured out why this is happening. Instead it just stays in the stands and reports on the unfair play as it happens.

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Amtrup
Amtrup
3 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

Very much this! ♤♤♤♤ expresses the issue here brilliantly.

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SueJM
SueJM
3 years ago

Will somebody with ultimate authority PLEASE stand up and state, look this is a G of F pathogen that we have very little idea about in terms of the length of its life. We DO know from 16 months of the world’s having faced it, that it is not so lethal. It is therefore set to die a natural death and we have to live with it until it does so. Therefore vaccinating is useless. Let it run its course. Meanwhile keep yourselves as healthy as you can with nutrition and lifestyle choices commensurate with that idea.

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DoctorCOxford
DoctorCOxford
3 years ago

We had masks and restrictions and Delta took off. It’s almost like there is nothing we can do save vaccinate and gets lots of sunshine and fresh air.

In the American south and southwest, summers are miserable (too many business trips in my old life). It drives people inside into AC. And that is a perfect breeding ground for Covid transmission. We had a different but related issue in May-June which was so wet and cold that it kept us indoors, windows shut. Regardless Delta will spread. Nothing Biden or Newsom or Johnson can do, including holding their breath, will stop that. Vaccinate those at risk, keep doing healthy things and move forward. A virus with an IFR of between .1-.25 isn’t the thing to be focused on. Plenty of other major issues that need our attention.

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FarligGods
FarligGods
3 years ago
Reply to  DoctorCOxford

like cancer which kills 450 people a day, why not throw all the money wasted on convid into cancer research??
Eh no, that wouldn’t do would it, can’t have people being cured & not requiring expensive treatments in vain hope…

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Smelly Melly
Smelly Melly
3 years ago

If so called vaccines worked, why is it that last year without vaccines less than 10 people a day were dying with/of the virus, but now with vaccines more than 130/day are dying of it?

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

The obvious difference would be that – this year – people are dying of asymptomatic COVID, that is, within 28 days of a positive test but without ever getting sick. Last year, people without symptoms weren’t being tested.

Last edited 3 years ago by RW
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Atters
Atters
3 years ago

How do they “test” for the delta variant?

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  Atters

With something we all know doesn’t work.
The whole thing is a smoke and mirrors, wonky testademic
Democrats are so desperate that they are discriminating against their core voters. More blacks and latinos do not have vaccine than any other ethnic group, yet they bring in mandated vaccine passes. Its a sign of desperation before collapse.

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Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
3 years ago
Reply to  Atters

They don’t they just make it up.

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Milos
Milos
3 years ago

Aside everything (PCR test positive does not mean sick, hospitalized or dead from c19, IFR~0.2% for c19, etc.), these US states reopened much earlier. What does the current “surge” have to do with that? If reopening many months before was to cause anything, it should have happened very soon after reopening, not half a year, year after.

PS. 2+2=𝛿 (delta), 𝛿=5.

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Encierro
Encierro
3 years ago

Mean while in Wuhan, China testing is going to be started again. Headlines scream Covid outbreak spreads. When in reality when reading beyond those headline that it is suspected that tens of people may have Covid.Hardly an outbreak is it?

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

It’s their attempt at stirring up fear in the west to keep us in lockdown. The XiBots have been very active on Twitter, apparently. Worked before.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago

Strange distribution of covid deaths in the US.
Not only do blue states have more, but within states , blue districts have more. For instance Florida’s current delta ‘surge’ is predominantly occurring in MiamiDade and Broward counties, blue counties. Not much at all over on the Gulf Coast.
Make of that what you want.

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Brett_McS
Brett_McS
3 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

It’s the Blue Flu.

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Are you talking total deaths since the start of the epidemic? I believe that right now the highest death rates are for the most part in red states. These are deaths per 100,000 and daily average deaths over the last seven days.

Arkansas
Deaths per 100,000: 0.58
Daily average deaths: 17.4
Nevada
Deaths per 100,000: 0.38
Daily average deaths: 11.6
Louisiana
Deaths per 100,000: 0.34
Daily average deaths: 16
Missouri
Deaths per 100,000: 0.29
Daily average deaths: 18
Florida
Deaths per 100,000: 0.27
Daily average deaths: 58.4
Wyoming
Deaths per 100,000: 0.25
Daily average deaths: 1.4
Mississippi
Deaths per 100,000: 0.23
Daily average deaths: 6.9
Montana
Deaths per 100,000: 0.17
Daily average deaths: 1.9
Arizona
Deaths per 100,000: 0.16
Daily average deaths: 11.6
Alabama
Deaths per 100,000: 0.15
Daily average deaths: 7.6
Tennessee
Deaths per 100,000: 0.14
Daily average deaths: 9.7
Texas
Deaths per 100,000: 0.14
Daily average deaths: 39.9
Utah
Deaths per 100,000: 0.14
Daily average deaths: 4.6
North Carolina
Deaths per 100,000: 0.12
Daily average deaths: 13
Oklahoma
Deaths per 100,000: 0.11
Daily average deaths: 4.4
Alaska
Deaths per 100,000: 0.1
Daily average deaths: 0.7
California
Deaths per 100,000: 0.1
Daily average deaths: 39
Indiana
Deaths per 100,000: 0.1
Daily average deaths: 6.7
Kentucky
Deaths per 100,000: 0.1
Daily average deaths: 4.4
New Mexico
Deaths per 100,000: 0.1
Daily average deaths: 2
West Virginia
Deaths per 100,000: 0.1
Daily average deaths: 1.9
Wisconsin
Deaths per 100,000: 0.1
Daily average deaths: 6
Delaware
Deaths per 100,000: 0.09
Daily average deaths: 0.8
Georgia
Deaths per 100,000: 0.09
Daily average deaths: 9.6
Kansas
Deaths per 100,000: 0.09
Daily average deaths: 2.7
South Carolina
Deaths per 100,000: 0.09
Daily average deaths: 4.7
Colorado
Deaths per 100,000: 0.08
Daily average deaths: 4.7
Hawaii
Deaths per 100,000: 0.08
Daily average deaths: 1.1
Idaho
Deaths per 100,000: 0.08
Daily average deaths: 1.4
Oregon
Deaths per 100,000: 0.08
Daily average deaths: 3.3
Washington
Deaths per 100,000: 0.07
Daily average deaths: 5
District of Columbia
Deaths per 100,000: 0.06
Daily average deaths: 0.4
Illinois
Deaths per 100,000: 0.06
Daily average deaths: 7
Iowa
Deaths per 100,000: 0.06
Daily average deaths: 1.9
Massachusetts
Deaths per 100,000: 0.06
Daily average deaths: 4.4
Michigan
Deaths per 100,000: 0.06
Daily average deaths: 6
Maryland
Deaths per 100,000: 0.05
Daily average deaths: 3
Minnesota
Deaths per 100,000: 0.05
Daily average deaths: 3
New Jersey
Deaths per 100,000: 0.05
Daily average deaths: 4.7
Virginia
Deaths per 100,000: 0.05
Daily average deaths: 4
Maine
Deaths per 100,000: 0.03
Daily average deaths: 0.4
Nebraska
Deaths per 100,000: 0.03
Daily average deaths: 0.6
New York State
Deaths per 100,000: 0.03
Daily average deaths: 6.6
Ohio
Deaths per 100,000: 0.03
Daily average deaths: 3.6
Pennsylvania
Deaths per 100,000: 0.03
Daily average deaths: 4.3
South Dakota
Deaths per 100,000: 0.03
Daily average deaths: 0.3
Connecticut
Deaths per 100,000: 0.02
Daily average deaths: 0.7
New Hampshire
Deaths per 100,000: 0.02
Daily average deaths: 0.3
North Dakota
Deaths per 100,000: 0.02
Daily average deaths: 0.1
Vermont
Deaths per 100,000: 0.02
Daily average deaths: 0.1
Rhode Island
Deaths per 100,000: 0.01
Daily average deaths: 0.1

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

and as I said the deaths in Florida are predominantly in MiamiDade and Broward counties, both blue counties. I haven’t bothered to look at Texas but I would wager the same effect there as well.
I note that the Dakotas both have very high death rates at the moment ( sic).

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MTF
MTF
3 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

You said two things: that blue states have more deaths and blue counties have more deaths. I have produced the figures that show the first is wrong. How about you produce the figures to show the second is right?

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jingleballix
jingleballix
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

It would very interesting to see how the above list correlates to a list of states showing vaccine uptake rate.

Is it possible that having the jab makes the illness worse – in younger people especially?

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Would be interesting to see say 2019s deaths per week charts to see if there’s a detectable excess, I doubt it.

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FarligGods
FarligGods
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

yes, all of these stats need to be compared retrospectively with what is “normal”… One issue is that we didn’t do all this stupid testing before classifying a summer cold as a delta variant..

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago
Reply to  MTF

… and still SARS CoV-2 refuses to be other than an infection of low consequence. Except in psycho-political terms (the real infection).

People like you who are scared of the fairies need to go to bed and just dream on there.

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Will
Will
3 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Didn’t the blue counties maintain restrictions over the winter, in defiance of De Santis?

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Will
Will
3 years ago

Excellent news for America as people will develop immunity before the winter. The world should be having covid parties to spread the virus as far as possible while everyone is full of vitamin D.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  Will

As I previously pointed out, summer in states like Florida is a season of high humidity and very big bugs. People tend to huddle by the aircon indoors. Its winter when they come out to play.

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Aleajactaest
Aleajactaest
3 years ago

Reuters – that bastion of balanced unbiased facts…….you’re having a giraffe.

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

“with the appetite for restrictions even in Blue states now that the vaccines are rolled out seemingly much lower than in previous outbreaks.”

Vaxx passports in New York anyone?

Mandatory vaxx for certain jobs?

Last edited 3 years ago by transmissionofflame
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marebobowl
marebobowl
3 years ago

It is no different from the surge in the UK. It will peak then bottom out. More proof lockdowns, social distancing and masks have no effect on the invisible virus and its scariants. Ride it out guys, it is a common cold virus. If it was anything else we would all be dead by now.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-08-fully-vaccinated-one-third-covid-england.html

No wonder they state Relative risk ratios because the Absolute risk ratios are both negligible.

“The study also found double vaccinated people may be less likely to pass on the virus to others than those who have not received a vaccine.”

Notice it doesn’t say how it works this un-fact out. “MAY” is MSM codeword for “I’d like you to believe this but there’s zero evidence”. I just substitute the word WON’T for MAY in MSM narratives now.
It then goes on to say the US government leaked a doc saying they’re more likely to spread the hobgoblin if you’re jabbed.

Also forgot to add… It doesn’t ever compare jabbed against people who recovered… Now that’s the REAL number people should look for.

Also there’s no breakdown on ages (since COVID is age dependent) which makes the whole “study” pointless.

Last edited 3 years ago by TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
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Pavlov Bellwether
Pavlov Bellwether
3 years ago

Interesting to see how this progresses – Canada, Alberta – Patrick King vs Deena Hinshaw: “The CMOH (Chief Medical Officer of Health) has no material evidence” (That Covid19 exists) – https://rumble.com/vkorz0-freedom-fighter-court-victory-ends-masking-shots-quarantine-in-alberta.html

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago

More case garbage. After eighteen months we’re still getting this stuff, coupled with the patent rubbish about variants (aka ‘same-iants).

Note the total absence of the one real indicator in the graphs – mortality.

This repetitious government-inspired nonsense is getting beyond tedious.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

and it should be ordered ALL CAUSE mortality to put it in context…

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mishmash
mishmash
3 years ago

“It is a much younger age group that is getting hospitalised [in Florida]”

Consequences of the vaccines.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago

On CNN the National Institutes of Health head, Dr Francis Collins said

‘“Parents of unvaccinated kids should be thoughtful about this and the recommendation is to wear masks there as well. I know that’s uncomfortable. I know it seems weird, but it is the best way to protect your kids.”

The NIH director says that vaccinated parents should be wearing masks *at home* to protect their kids, who have essentially zero risk of dying from COVID.

Certifiable!

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

On the other side of the world, but linked by a ‘common purpose’, Queensland Chief Health Officer, Jeannette Young said

“If you’re a grandparent of one of these kids, one of these households, and you haven’t been vaccinated, please don’t go anywhere near your grandkids,”

Certifiable!

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

‘the recommendation is to wear masks there as well. I know that’s uncomfortable’.

He also knows it it doesn’t stop people catching or transmitting any virus. What is it with these people – how can they sleep at night!?

Last edited 3 years ago by milesahead
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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago

If Reuters told me it was Wednesday, I’d have to check my calendar before believing it!

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

Could we see premises that do not insist on pseudo-medical nonsense in order for customers to enter could start putting yellow stars in their windows?

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

I’d rather see a yellow smiley face.

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McNamara
McNamara
3 years ago

When I see the word “surge” used I immediately discount anything that follows. It will be lazy journalism. These are not cases, these are positive tests, with false positives and bogus results. And genuine positive tests might mean only a sniffle.

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String
String
3 years ago
Reply to  McNamara

Yep. also few seem to be accounting for the ‘surge’ in people approaching the southern border. 210k illegal aliens apprehended in July alone. something like 100k of these in TX. Wonder what Sleepy Joe thinks the impact of this is having on “covid cases” – not that anyone in the MSM would bother to ask…

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago

Just got out the binoculars again.

18 months on – and I still can’t see those bodies in the street, or the constant to-and-fro of mortuary wagons.

Just a few normal mild/moderate infections

Funny that.

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

The MSM keep crying ‘Wolf!’ – it must be approaching the time when people simply stop believing it?

Last edited 3 years ago by milesahead
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SueJM
SueJM
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Fingers crossed.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.”
― H.L. Mencken

He died in 1956 so you never seem to run out of suckers to pretend to be experts to.

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/7805.H_L_Mencken

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Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
3 years ago

Cases, schmases.

Wind up the PCR threshold, more +ve results, Wind down the threshold, fewer cases. Repeat as required to suit political purpose.

Does the coronvirus ‘test’ distinguish between coronavirii, such as SARS-Cov-2 and the one causing the common cold (actually several types of virii are involved).

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Tee Ell
Tee Ell
3 years ago
Reply to  Arfur Mo

According to some sources, the PCR tests are quite specific when comparing SARS-CoV-2 with other human coronaviruses: https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/protocol-v2-1.pdf?sfvrsn=a9ef618c_2

Some sources suggest antibody testing accuracy will be limited due to cross-reactivity (this paper suggests herpes reactivation or malaria prevalence could be linked): https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/1/pdfs/20-3281.pdf

Last edited 3 years ago by Tee Ell
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Amtrup
Amtrup
3 years ago
Reply to  Tee Ell

I read that different PCR tests react to/notice different pieces of “the virus”, mainly 3 different “sections”, one of which is the spike protein, which is fairly specific to SARS-19, ( and also the bit which the vaccines trigger people’s bodies into producing …. ), but the other two pieces may well be less specific to the SARS coronavirii. Tests should ( according to best practice ) need to find all three or at the very least two of the segments, but apparently a lot of them ( its cheaper ) return a positive result even if only identify/”find” one section …. ( and of course most are using far too many cycles, and PCR doesn’t /can’t test for/identify illness/infection anyway ).

Last edited 3 years ago by Amtrup
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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

A NEW STATE OF SEGREGATION: VACCINE CARDS ARE JUST THE BEGINNING

http://www.wakingtimes.com/a-new-state-of-segregation-vaccine-cards-are-just-the-beginning/?utm_source=Waking+Times+Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=0b5af29a70-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_term=0_25f1e048c1-0b5af29a70-54853601

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Susan
Susan
3 years ago

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/why-cdc-quietly-abandoning-pcr-test-covid
Worth reading in full.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago

According to Natural News / Brighteon websites Biden is going to Lockdown the USA within the next two weeks and attempt to put the blame on anti-vaxers.

The thinking is that this will spark mass demonstrations and an FBI staged “event” such as an attack on a medical facility. All intended to give an excuse for killings alongside the dismantling of the constitution.

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Evison1
Evison1
3 years ago

The deaths are still very low as they have been in the UK during the delta wave. In the absence of mass testing regimes, I guess we would think there is a summer cold going around – or maybe not notice at all?

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  Evison1

To be honest about this: There is no such thing as a summer cold. Or at least, there used to be no such thing until last year (read: never experienced it). I still unfondly remember that I had symptoms of a mild cold during the complete summer last year, presumably courtesy of COVID.

It’s not exactly life-threatening but a hell of a nuisance when it just keeps going for months on end.

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vivaldi
vivaldi
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

Well…they have been described as a ‘summer cold’ in the past..people get colds in the summer, There are 4 established coronaviruses continually in circulation and there are quite often, colds going around during the summer months. Obviously not as many affected as during the winter. The fraudulent PCR tests and useless LFTs are being used to promote the ‘pandemic not over’ narrative, of which Johnson and assorted advisers like to regularly remind us.

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RW
RW
3 years ago
Reply to  vivaldi

Summer cold is a term I certainly haven’t ever heard before the summer of last year, when COVID became a political football in the USA.

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Fiona Walker
Fiona Walker
3 years ago
Reply to  RW

It’s been in common usage in the UK throughout my life.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago

Or is that the vaccines just don’t work and Delta variant is an excuse?

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C S
C S
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

bingo

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C S
C S
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomOfLiberty

They will never admit it…but rather phrase it as a “vaccine evading variant”.

I still keep wondering why there was zero discussion of variants before vaccines (despite, of course, the fact that viruses will always mutate). I also am amazed that vaxxed people believe the story that the virus is mutating because people are unvaxxed. They cant explain why of course, and are simply repeating what they heard on the news. Do they not know that bacteria becomes resistant to antibiotics due to their overuse…cant they see that maybe the same thing is going on here with the so-called vaccines (or medical procedures if you are an MP worried about having to get it to sit in the House of Commons)

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
3 years ago

We are surrounded by sham: we cannot know what the infections – there are no specific tests – and the vaccines don’t prevent them.

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Mimi
Mimi
3 years ago

Is Delta actually Covid-19? Might it be, say, Covid-21? When do we get to return to the normal annual cycle of seasonal coronaviruses that generate little notice?

No one expects last year’s flu vaccine to work for this year’s flu.

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago

Can anybody confirm if it’s true regarding the court case in the Court of Queens Bench of Alberta, case number 2110 00751.
https://hotcopper.com.au/threads/the-truth-about-vaccines.3338850/page-12542?post_id=55028883
I can’t find any verification, but someone with more IT nouse may be able to or connections in Canada.
Would be great news if this could be verified.

Last edited 3 years ago by Catee
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Trojan House
Trojan House
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

I live in Canada and I believe this is true. Alberta did drop all their restrictions this month – all of them.

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Samurai Jack
Samurai Jack
3 years ago
Reply to  Catee

https://www.bitchute.com/video/euMT6jUwXhym/

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Trojan House
Trojan House
3 years ago

Here is the data from the Florida Department of Health:

http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/covid19_report_archive/covid19-data/covid19_data_latest.pdf

Scroll down to “cases & cumulative people vaccinated.” Interesting to see the curve. At first cases to vaccinations are low, however, since the beginning of July as more people were vaccinated, cases began to surge. Read into that info as you may but I find it interesting.

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Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
3 years ago
Reply to  Trojan House

The significance depends on the age and sex distribution. We know from early 2020, prior to the jab confounding effect, that SARS-CoV-2 at its worst affects the very elderly (75+), or those with multiple co-morbidities, males more so than females.

If the post-jab victims, especially fatalities, are young, healthy and more likely female than male, it is certainly not straight SARS-CoV-2. It is a classic ADE effect, whereby the drug make things worse when people are exposed to the disease.

Last edited 3 years ago by Arfur Mo
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Trojan House
Trojan House
3 years ago
Reply to  Arfur Mo

Well, the majority of deaths, just over 9%, have been over the age of 65. They are also the majority that have been vaccinated at 85%. So ADE from the vaccine could also be a factor in this age group as well.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago

De Santis giving it to Biden
You will enjoy this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdZ7XxDKvj0

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OKDoomer
OKDoomer
3 years ago

Any discussion of the matter, including the one above, is utterly disingenuous at best when not taking into consideration the tens of thousands of illegals entering the country EVERY DAY and not being tested. Where do they mostly enter? Texas. Many are then bussed or flown to other states.

The uncontrolled border crossings have to stop.

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Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  OKDoomer

Illegal what? 🙂

There was an interesting section on GB News the other day about the huge numbers currently entering the so called Unite States compared to those entering legally. Apparently there is political advantage in this to the current 2president”.

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