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Time to Vote for What You Believe In

by Dr Hugh Willbourn
3 July 2024 1:31 PM

In these divided, despairing times the whole of Britain is looking forward to a rare day of unity as we celebrate the demolition of the Conservative Party. Let us seize the moment and enjoy it, because after that we will be back to the remorseless and less desirable demolition of the country.

You may think that there is little left to destroy. The NHS is virtually paralysed, Universities are lost to wokery and there are now generations of graduates who are economically disabled by huge debts for their worthless degrees.

However there is indeed more to destroy. There are thousands of small and medium sized businesses in the private sector that are flourishing in spite of the best efforts of the Government, and there are many healthy, happy communities that have yet to be afflicted with juvenile knife crime, long-term unemployment and small-minded culture warriors.

A Labour Government, like a Conservative Government, is a frightening prospect. Voting for either party is an instance of the frequently misattributed quotation: “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

Many young people quite rightly despise every politician in Westminster.  They are being asked to live a life of poverty to maintain the wealth of the very people who caused all their problems. Boomer bureaucrats, having inflated away their own mortgage debt, engineered guarantees to benefit themselves at the expense of the following generations. If I was under 35 I would ask: “Why should I pay for your mistakes and pay to protect you from their consequences?”

There are many rational responses to this state of affairs. The mildest are quiet quitting and emigration. More radical solutions are available.

On June 6th this year the 80th anniversary of the D-Day landings was commemorated. Our situation today is not akin to D-Day. We have no armies ready to liberate occupied territory. Today our situation is more like that four years earlier, when more than 800 “little ships” sailed to Dunkirk to evacuate Allied soldiers who were surrounded by the German army. It was not a victory. It was not a time for celebration. It was however a vital, gallant action which saved soldiers who took the fight to the enemy four years later, and eventually won the war.

In Britain and in France we have elections this week, in the USA this year. Don’t just vote against the other lot. Vote for something. For what or whom would you sail across the Channel and risk your life under fire?

If you believe that your current representative truly has your best interests at heart vote for her or him.

In the U.K., if you believe in transgender activism vote Green. 

If you want sharia law vote for the Worker’s Party. 

If you want reform, vote Reform.

Have a good vote.

Tags: Conservative PartyDemocracyGeneral Election 2024ReformWoke Gobbledegook

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago

“In the U.K., if you believe in transgender activism vote Green. 
If you want sharia law vote for the Worker’s Party. ”

All of the main parties with the exception of Reform offer variations on these things.

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10navigator
10navigator
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

“There is a tide in the affairs of men, which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune; omitted, all the voyage of their life is is bound in shallows and in miseries.” Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar. I really feel something seismic is about to happen. I hope I’m right for all our sakes.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  10navigator

Something seismically bad more likely

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Heretic
Heretic
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

No.

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Heretic
Heretic
10 months ago
Reply to  10navigator

I hope you are, too, for I feel the same. As you said, “Something seismic is about to happen…”

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
10 months ago

TCW – Reforms rising star about the Muslim backer. Bloody hell over 500 comments, would be till Friday reading all of them.
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/reform-uks-rising-star-zia-yusuf-and-his-fine-speech-on-british-values/

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Jon Mors
Jon Mors
10 months ago

I used to be a Conservative party member (quit March 2020 over first lockdown) so still get their emails. It’s truly desperate stuff now, oozing of condescension. Every single email makes me long for the day of zero seats. If there was a time when it would be better for the Tory party to STFU, then truly it would now.

Last edited 10 months ago by Jon Mors
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varmint
varmint
10 months ago
Reply to  Jon Mors

I am surprised it took so long for you to realise the Tories had morphed into Labour Lite.

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GunnerBill
GunnerBill
10 months ago

#VoteReformUK2024

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago

It seems Reform are the only alternative voice to all this lefty totalitarianism, they may not be perfect but are certainly the best of a bad bunch.
They won’t win this time but after the country has gone through 5 years of the labour destruction its about to receive, Reform will look like a much better alternative by then (maybe a lot earlier than 5 years looking at some of Stammer’s proposals!)
We have already postal voted,
Reform 👍

Last edited 10 months ago by Hardliner
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varmint
varmint
10 months ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Well even if Reform never form a government, we can at least hope their prescence will have knocked some common sense into the Conservatives and just maybe they might be forced into being right wing again.

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Monro
Monro
10 months ago

I will most certainly not vote for any party whose leader admires Putin as a political operator.

Putin is an indicted war criminal responsible for hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced and all manner of other barbarities.

I will be voting for Mr Sunak, faute de mieux.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  Monro

I neither know nor care what Farage thinks of Putin. If you dislike Putin in part because of how he treats his own people, your mate Sunak, part of the “covid cabinet” has got a great track record in that department. It’s imperative the Tories are destroyed, otherwise the UK will be destroyed (not by Putin).

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Monro
Monro
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

I dislike Putin because he is a documented and indicted war criminal.

You are, of course, entitled to your view but your apparent indifference to documented war crimes and the criminal is not, in my view, to your credit.

Britain will not be destroyed; hyperbole.

I remember whingeing about the state of this country to a pal from Bulgaria. He responded: ‘Britain is a sanatorium’.

Our good fortune in being gifted a winning ticket in the lottery of life should not stop us constructively criticising our government. The Prime Minister has apologised for much but by no means all of the catastrophic errors of the past four years. He will not win.

And yet, he is head and shoulders the better man compared to the rest of the freak show.

So he gets my vote, as I say, faute de mieux.

Last edited 10 months ago by Monro
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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  Monro

The UK is being destroyed from the outside and the inside, along with the rest of white European civilisation, slowly but surely. Sure, there will be a Britain of sorts, with vestiges of what went before, but it won’t be the same country it could have been had we not been invaded. Change happens, but not all changes are inevitable, or good. Sunak has done nothing to change that.

I don’t know or care what he has apologised for, and I don’t want apologies. Bridgen has redeemed himself by realising his mistake and doing everything he can to make amends. That is the least anyone can do – very few have done it. I judge people by their actions, not their words.

I don’t believe that the “catastrophic errors” were actually errors.

But it looks like you have won, and I have lost – we will have 5-10 years of Labour then if you and others reject a conservative alternative, the Tories will return.

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Monro
Monro
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

I have not rejected a Conservative alternative.

I would have voted for Reform had its leader not stood by his unfortunate remarks in 2014 regarding the war criminal, Putin.

Britain has been a nation of immigrants for millennia.

It is most certainly not the country of my youth. Some things are worse, on occasion stupidly worse; the tyranny of the majority. But so many things are better. So we are all winners, in my view, though that is clearly not apparent to you; and that is your prerogative.

I must say, though, that I am surprised and horrified by the insouciance and worse on display on this site regarding the atrocities being perpetrated by Putin and Russia in Ukraine.

No wonder so few visit this site no doubt in part as a consequence of that.

‘Farage’s views on Putin aren’t just wrong, they are weird’

About fifty six million people in this country take that view. What relief after reading so much disgraceful and arrant nonsense on this site, renewing some faith in large numbers of my erratic fellow citizens.

https://ctgroup.com/

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  Monro

“Britain has been a nation of immigrants for millennia.”

There are immigrants and immigrants, and there are phases in the development of a country. We would have been better off with close to zero immigration starting from post WW2 onwards.

I don’t have strong feelings about Putin, or Russia v Ukraine, other than I feel sorry for those on both sides suffering and I think we are wasting our money and making things worse. But domestic policy – immigration, the NHS, Nut Zero and Ever More State Intervention in Everything worries me and affects me a great deal more.

You have rejected a conservative alternative by voting Tory.

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Monro
Monro
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Voting is a positive; voting for something.

I do not agree with your views on post WW2 immigration, particularly given the support that this country received from overseas during WW2.

I most certainly agree with your right to express those views.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  Monro

Well it should be a positive but what I mainly want to see is a lot of stuff UNDONE.

Regarding immigration, when should we stop it?

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Monro
Monro
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

We should call a halt immediately, with a few key skilled exceptions as may be required, certainly until the requisite infrastructure exists to process and assimilate those already here.

Thereafter immigration should be planned and the plan subjected to popular approval.

Hundreds of thousands leave this country every year so some kind of balance is required to avoid skill shortages.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  Monro

I don’t want to “process and assimilate” aliens, however wonderful they are. It’s hard enough living with people of the same race and culture!

Immigration has been mainly planned – lots of it!

If hundreds of thousands leave, then there are hundreds of thousands fewer people needing goods and services. I wonder some of those people leave – could it be to get away from high-immigration Britain?

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Monro
Monro
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

I would prefer a much smaller population. The public sector, Whitehall, is so large that it can only be sustained by a larger population. I would like to see that reversed. Like many things that I would like to see, it isn’t going to happen.

But I am still able to fish waters, open to the public, undisturbed by other citizens.

People no doubt leave for all kinds of reasons; many, probably, to return home.

Britain has, probably, never had one race and culture.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  Monro

“Britain has, probably, never had one race and culture.”

We’re mainly white, or were, from Norman, Viking, Celtic and Anglo Saxon stock. That was the case for millennia.

Enjoy your fishing! Do fish emit CO2?

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Monro
Monro
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Thank you. They do emit CO2 so are helping the planet! 🙂

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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

And the fact that they need to import forever cheap labour is a failure in training, appernticeships and the benefit system.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Don’t forget tof, bots can’t vote!

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Nah, I doubt Monro is a bot.

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Dinger64
Dinger64
10 months ago
Reply to  transmissionofflame

Someone using ai maybe?

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
10 months ago
Reply to  Monro

There is no accounting for Stupid.

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Monro
Monro
10 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

What a very silly and pointless comment.

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Jon Mors
Jon Mors
10 months ago
Reply to  Monro

Not wrong though.

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Monro
Monro
10 months ago
Reply to  Jon Mors

Very well done.

Give yourself a big pat on the back.

You know you want to.

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Sanddancer57
Sanddancer57
10 months ago
Reply to  Monro

A pithy retort to your rather tedious pomposity, I thought 😉

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Monro
Monro
10 months ago
Reply to  Sanddancer57

There is a great deal of tedious pomposity about, so it seems.

Still, good to know you are at least capable of thought.

Why not give yourself a pat on the back, as well……….

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RW
RW
10 months ago
Reply to  Monro

Farage’s recent speech contained a strong committment to close partnership with the USA under the umbrella of the NATO. And also the following statement:

But that¹ gets twisted by the BBC because I predicted it in support for President Putin. Can I just be absolutely clear? I think what Putin has turned Russia into was a post-communist country, with the wall coming down, with the hope of a democratic future, and he’s turned it into a brutal dictatorship in which his enemies go to prison and die, in which journalists disappear. And I think what Putin has done in Ukraine is absolutely morally reprehensible in every single way. Have you got that?

Besides, voting or not voting for someone based on foreign policy positions is kind-of silly. First and foremost, we’ll have to live with what the next government does to the UK.

¹ The prediction of an upcoming war in Ukraine in 2014.

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Monro
Monro
10 months ago
Reply to  RW

Mr Farage has said much that is good, sensible, even prescient.

Saying that he admired Putin as a political operator was none of those things; and he has not moved from that, in my view, abhorrent position.

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RW
RW
10 months ago
Reply to  Monro

Which position is that? Acknowledging that Putin has been very effective at ramming through his political goals? Well, he certainly has. That’s significantly different from admiring either his methods and goals, as the statement I quoted above ought to demonstrate.

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Monro
Monro
10 months ago
Reply to  RW

‘Asked which current world leader he most admired, Farage replied: “As an operator, but not as a human being, I would say Putin……The way he played the whole Syria thing. Brilliant.’ GQ March 2014

The forester who recently expertly removed an nearby plantation of non native conifers almost overnight was a brilliant operator. Many did not admire him for that destruction (I did).

Syria has been an unmitigated disaster. Putin, as a ‘political operator’, has played his part in prolonging that ongoing slaughter. He has done a great deal worse in Ukraine. Chemical weapons have been used in both theatres. Hundreds of thousands have died, millions have been displaced as a consequence of ‘Putin, the operator’.

It really is no wonder that this site is regarded as a freak show, to be avoided, so many on here supporting war crimes and war criminals.

Farage’s comment was a great deal worse than stupid, in my view; abhorrent.

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RW
RW
10 months ago
Reply to  Monro

Farage has condemned both Putin’s methods and goals quite clearly, see quote above.

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Monro
Monro
10 months ago
Reply to  RW

But he still admires him ‘as an operator’ whose operations are, to me, abhorrent.

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Richard Austin
Richard Austin
10 months ago
Reply to  Monro

You simply cannot understand English.

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Richard Austin
Richard Austin
10 months ago
Reply to  RW

Do you not understand English? Is it your second language after Pompousese?

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Monro
Monro
10 months ago
Reply to  RW

The freak show is back.

Good night.

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
10 months ago
Reply to  Monro

If you feel that this site is a freak show why do you persist in continually coming on here and posting negative , inflammatory comments?

If you don’t like it just leave!!!!

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Richard Austin
Richard Austin
10 months ago
Reply to  Monro

You’re a sodding stuck record and you cannot even understand a sentence. You whine endlessly but come out with nonsensical garbage. Farage made it quite clear he does not agree with what Putin has done and he was equally clear as to the excuse Putin made. Putin only had to point out the facts.
You, however, Mr Pompous Neveright, prefer to make things up in your head.
You are, quite honestly, boring and incessantly wrong. Your main fault however is that you find it impossible to actually analyse the crap you come out with and see the glaring faults.

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Judy Watson
Judy Watson
10 months ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

Well said. I agree with you totally.

What happened to the ‘red flags’ whereby we could stop seeing seeing posts such as these by Munro?

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JohnK
JohnK
10 months ago

Except that some knowledge of the first past the post system shows that many votes are wasted, especially if you oppose the (re) election of an individual.

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transmissionofflame
transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  JohnK

Tactical voting enables the continuation of the left wing Uniparty govt we’ve had since Blair. But as a Labour supporter, you should be happy about that.

I’m lucky enough to have two parties standing in my area with a lot of policies I feel very positive about, and above all what I feel is the right idea about the proper function of government. But then I am a man very much out of my time and place, it seems.

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DHJ
DHJ
10 months ago

If you want the same civil service, influential lobbyists and manipulative psychologists: vote for any Party or don’t vote, they won’t mind.

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Richard Austin
Richard Austin
10 months ago

This, more than any other election in my 60+ years, is one where you must vote to lay down your red line. I’ll be voting Reform because they are a) The only party which has not lied to me b) They are the only party which fits with what I know in my heart and my head needs to happen.
The Starmers and The Sunaksm The Camerons and The Blairs days are numbered no matter the result tomorrow.

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Heretic
Heretic
10 months ago

As Nigel said, “Vote with your heart.”

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varmint
varmint
10 months ago

Yes but these same “young people” who attack the so called “boomers” are usually the same brainwashed dreamers that think the planet needs saving. They have fallen for the “boomers” climate scam big style.

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Grim Ace
Grim Ace
10 months ago

Would take a lot for me not to vote Reform

However, the Zia person who everyone is getting excited about: what if he is a Trojan horse?

Last edited 10 months ago by Grim Ace
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Ron Smith
Ron Smith
10 months ago
Reply to  Grim Ace

Heritage doesn’t have a foot in or I’d vote for them. They are the only chance at this time.

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RTSC
RTSC
10 months ago

No Reform candidate in West Dorset. The LibDumbs will “win” here, kicking out the LibCON Chris Loder. It’ll be impossible to tell the difference.

I “spoiled” my ballot paper by writing Reform UK on it.

As far as I’m concerned I voted for Reform. I look forward to them appointing an Area Manager (applications are being sifted) so I can volunteer to join the team after the election.

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Richard Austin
Richard Austin
10 months ago
Reply to  RTSC

I can’t agree with doing that: simply vote for the most absurd (well, not Labour obviously) or an Independent. Your vote then counts. What matters most right now is who did not vote Uniparty. If Starmer gets a huge majority but only 25% of the electorate what does your spoilt paper say? What does your non-spoilt paper say?
A spoilt paper disappears. Not voting disappears. An actual vote matters.

Last edited 10 months ago by Richard Austin
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jsampson45
jsampson45
10 months ago

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” But the loonies are in charge. In this constituency, vote Reform, get Lib Dem. The question is not who to vote for, it is who your vote lets in.

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