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Courts May Abandon Wigs Amid Claims of ‘Hair Discrimination’

by Richard Eldred
19 May 2024 5:00 PM

English courts could soon stop requiring barristers to wear wigs due to ‘cultural insensitivity’ claims. The Telegraph has the details.

The judiciary is poised to update its court dress code following complaints by some barristers that the traditional headpieces discriminate against those with Afro-Caribbean hair.

Judges are currently reviewing proposals made by the Bar Council, which represents barristers in England and Wales, with changes expected to be made this autumn at the earliest. No decisions have been made.

It follows widespread criticism from several black barristers who have called for compulsory wigs to be scrapped.

The potential changes come after Michael Etienne, a barrister who is black and has an afro hairstyle, sparked a public debate in 2022 after being ordered to wear a wig in court or face disciplinary action.

He branded the policy as hair discrimination, a form of racism.

A Bar Council spokesman said: “Following questions from barristers about wigs and hair discrimination, the Bar Council set up a working group to consider court dress in the context of all protected characteristics.

“The findings of the working group are currently being discussed with the judiciary as part of our regular dialogue on equality and diversity matters.”

Worth reading in full.

Tags: High CourtRacismSupreme CourtTradition

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Bellingcat
Bellingcat
3 years ago

Still the spike protein with all it’s Angiotensin II pathway consequences – vascular damage etc. Why bother when Omnicold seems to be stopped by the mucosal defenses limiting it to upper respiratory infections and not initiating a systemic immune response.

Last edited 3 years ago by Bellingcat
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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Bellingcat

With my strong natural immunity, and Omicron a weak variant, why would I want to take Novavax for an illness I am really not afraid of. To allow me to travel? To get a vaxx passport? To comply?

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Judging by most of those of my acquaintance, any and all of those.

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philipat
philipat
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Yes, I understand all the above comments but, for whatever reason anyone might still wish to take a vaccine, or even as a booster, I do think there is a legitimate need to explore the issue of the relative safety between the different vaccine types.

With Novavax, on the one hand,it is not a gene therapy and it will not affect human chromsomes. It will not produce viral spike proteins from viral mRNA inside human cells which then form spikes which protrude through the cell membrane to produce clotting either from the direct effect on bllod flow, especially in narrow capillaries, or from the immune response causing inflammation and tissue damage.

On the other hand, it is introducing viral spike proteins directly and it is still likely that some of these will enter the blood stream and circulate throughout the body, possibly getting the S1 protein (which is small enough to cross the blood/brain barrier) cleaved away; although the manufacture states that this will not happen to to a modification of the cleavage site.

On the surface, it would SEEM that Novavax should be relatively safer than the mRNA/DNA vaccines, BUT we really don’t know because the independent clinical data is minimal.

IMHO, the burden of proof is o Novavax and, as with the other vaccines, IMHO the sensible thing to do would be to give as much time as possible before making a decision.

Disclosure: I am unvaccinated and have no intention of being vaccinated but as a scientist by training I have an intellectual interest in understanding the different vaccine types.

PS. The French Valneva vaccine, which is a completely “traditional” vaccine which uses ” a whole attenuated virus” seems to be a better approach. That said, I don’t understand how they can use a whole attenuated virus because, to the best of my knowledge, the virus have still never been isolated and purified so I suspect they actually use an “in silico” sequence of the computer-generated genome. I did also read somewhere in an early report that Valneva were “enhancing” the spike protein content – another red flag if correct.

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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago
Reply to  philipat

But who really needs it?

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Bellingcat
Bellingcat
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

All part of the anti-health service.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Bellingcat

Yes …have you read their diabolical plan to transform it into a “commend and control” operation?

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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago
Reply to  Bellingcat

It’s all too convenient for wealth and power transfer to damage people’s health. Forced exercise would be more beneficial.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Shut up and put your mask on! Otherwise you’ll be cancelled as a conspiracy theorist for spoiling the narrative.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

They intend to use the messing with the ‘Bill of Rights’ to cancel bodily integrity and impose their “right” to force vaccinations in the ‘public interest’ and the ‘greater good ‘- their diabolic plan is still on track.

Their global mass vaccination project touted by Gates and those bought j out by his vast wealth is going to happen…. unless we stop it!

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Wokey Dokey
Wokey Dokey
3 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Will the Lords stop it I wonder?
One thought. As this new shot got the go ahead, does that mean the emergency measures which are up next month, will continue as the jabs were given emergency use due to there being emergency measures (if I remember correctly)?

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Bellingcat

Yes any injected Spike protein will liekly cause inflammation and clotting in cardiac muscle and vasculature

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meanonsunday
meanonsunday
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

You’re just jumping to an unwarranted conclusion. There’s a big difference between the mRNA vaccines that are actually causing cells in the heart or blood vessels to produce the spike protein and something like Novavax where the amount of the spike protein that could get into the bloodstream is far below anything that has been shown to be harmful.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  meanonsunday

Where has it been shown to be harmless?

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  meanonsunday

I think it’s more the entire premise of this supposed new vaccine that most people on here are cynical about.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

tried to message you via forum but I think it didn’t reach you so sent message to your inbox

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  meanonsunday

But who hasn’t now been exposed to O’micron, bar someone who has stayed indoors for the whole of the last 2 months living like a hermit?

That being the case, why would you roll up your sleeve for a jab, still in its trial phase, which will give you a dose of a spike protein which is almost certain to mutate again and the spike protein you have got via the jab will then be useless

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Omygod is just the common cold. Its like naming a regular shower ‘Bert’, and getting everyone takling about it as if it was some special weather event.

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Gefion
Gefion
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

You do it to go on holiday and comply then virtue signal to all around. At least that’s what happens around where we live.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  meanonsunday

No i think the Astra Zeneca jab was also mRNA free but had lots of clotting events.

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GimpbusterMSc
GimpbusterMSc
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

it used a chimpanzee virus to inject DNA into your cells

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rational
rational
3 years ago
Reply to  GimpbusterMSc

Do you know what DNA is?

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mojo
mojo
3 years ago
Reply to  meanonsunday

Vaccines take many years to develop. After the last two years I would never trust the modern pharmaceutical companies. I suspect if we follow the money it will somehow lead us back to Bill Gates or the WHO

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  meanonsunday

You have absolutely no idea.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Yes, its a pathogen and pathogens kill.

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meanonsunday
meanonsunday
3 years ago
Reply to  Bellingcat

It’s at least a choice for someone objecting on moral grounds. Maybe an older person or someone in the military that’s under a mandate.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  meanonsunday

No, I think anyone objecting on moral grounds would be just as bitterly opposed to this one.

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mwhite
mwhite
3 years ago
Reply to  Bellingcat

As I remember these drugs were released for emergency use only.

Are we still in an “emergency”?

What happens when the “emergency ends?

Is the “emergency” use of these drugs rescinded when the “emergency” ends?

Just asking.

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mwhite
mwhite
3 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

Is the novavax drug being approved for emergency use only?.

Last edited 3 years ago by mwhite
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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

also predicated on there being no other effective treatments, Budesonide was such a drug, but has been withdrawn, even after a trial showed it’s effectiveness.

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Mags
Mags
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Best to follow FLCC protocol .. they have saved millions of peoples lives. Even in Indua and south america and iran doctors can prescribe the protocol unlike corrupt western world

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  mwhite

were we ever in an ’emergency’?

15000 deaths over 2 years doesn’t smack of an emergency and you have to remember that out own govt downgraded the virus in early March 2020

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baboon
baboon
3 years ago
Reply to  Bellingcat

Lets see:

  • Spike protein – check
  • Liquid nano particles – check
  • Can potentially cause ADE – check
  • Can potentially cause OAS – check
  • Can potentially cause prions diseases – check
  • Completely unnecessary for the vast majority of people – check

No thanks, still not taking the sludge. Oh, and this is their first product. It only took them 35 years. Definitely no thanks.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  Bellingcat

They will sanction anything except ivermectin which works and the human immune system which they want to destroy so they can force more products on the gullible population – the strategy is now plain for all -who can- to see.

Don’t be fooled again!

Last edited 3 years ago by David Beaton
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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago
Reply to  Bellingcat

Everyone is getting covid now but I expect a few will keep vaxing to ensure maximum chance of damage to their systems because they are so bought into the cult. Good luck with that. Natural immunity is just fine for me.

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A W Fuller
A W Fuller
3 years ago

About time. I still don’t need or want one but if I have no other choice I would take this one.

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  A W Fuller

It’ll be interesting to discover if the UK’s okaying of this vax is accepted everywhere.
I know someone who was vaxxed abroad with Sinovax, returned to Germany (without incident) and then discovered it would be necessary to have another (German-approved) vax to leave the country again. I think the eventual choice was the Janssen single-shot.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

I CG a F.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I CGJAMO a F.

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ellie-em
ellie-em
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

I’ve heard of this happening too if recipients are jabbed with something other than what’s on the ‘approved’ vax list. Edit: Approved meaning those with a current EUA issued by the relevant medicine body of each country.

I suppose TPTB can’t have their money grabbing mates who supply the other crap missing out on a few quid through lost sales.

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meanonsunday
meanonsunday
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

EU already approved it (well conditional approval like the others). The US trial was finished and just submitted to FDA. It’s also already approved by WHO and most countries accept anything on this list. I think Sinovax is a special case in that WHO approved it but some think that this was only based on political pressure and that it doesn’t work very well.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  meanonsunday

You’re talking as though the EU, the FDA and the WHO are honest brokers and worthy of trust?

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optocarol
optocarol
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Today in NZ, Medsafe website: Approved under section 23 of the Medicines Act with conditions on 4 February 2022.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  A W Fuller

“About time.” ???

So less, a lot less than two years, allegedly, to knock up a “vaccine” against an illness that is harmless to well over 99.75% of people and your conclusion is “about time.”

You can book yourself on the perforations treadmill if you wish. I’ll pass.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  A W Fuller

I’d only start considering an inhaled inactivated-virus, minus the spike!

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Me too. And I’d clingfilm my nostrils shut beforehand.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

You can bet that Novavax will be laced with graphene micro/nano self-assembling circuitry, exactly like the rest of the Covid vaccine crop.

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CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
3 years ago
Reply to  A W Fuller

Do you mean, if the only other choice is a firing squad?

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  A W Fuller

You always have a choice.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Like “Sophie” as I recall.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago
Reply to  A W Fuller

Without knowing anything about it …off you go then!

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D B
D B
3 years ago

Will watch this with interest… But ultimately, my March 2020 acquired immunity is still holding up and I will back that over any drugs any day.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
3 years ago

I’d rather have the omicron vaccine, but try as I might, I just can’t catch it. It’s so strange that all my triple “vaxxed” associates seem to get the omicron vaccine so effortlessly.

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

I know, some of them quite badly.

I do suggest the things that might help them recover from their bad bout of omicron, like vitamin C and Zinc and Quercetin, but that isn’t “medicine” provided by a “doctor” and they say no thank you.

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

It’s odd. Despite my mingling closely with fellow sportspersons during play and being unmasked, this pesky omicron just doesn’t like the look of me. Perhaps it only infects believers?

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

I’ve tried everything to tempt covi. I never wore a face rag, I worked in the office, commuting on busy trains. I went to packed concerts with my fake vaccine pass, got pissed in busy pubs, but covi just wouldn’t take the bait. I don’t know what to try next, I don’t really want to lick the handrails on the bus.

Last edited 3 years ago by TheBluePill
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CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

2 jabs + a booster shot should do the trick.

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ElSabio
ElSabio
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

 I never wore a face rag…

There’s your problem; wear a face nappy and you’re guaranteed to get a dose of the china-clap.

Last edited 3 years ago by ElSabio
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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

Get vaxxed and your wish will come true.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Ha! Yes. It’s the only way to be sure.

Last edited 3 years ago by crisisgarden
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LMS2
LMS2
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

Just get close to someone with symptoms. It just took a few minutes in the vicinity of my infected brother-in-law for us.
we’d been out maskless, in pubs, shoping, etc, and nada.

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beornwulf
beornwulf
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Ah, the power of the mind! As all studies of the placebo / noncebo effects show.

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Rowan
Rowan
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Omicron, just like the government, prefers the vaxxed.

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LMS2
LMS2
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

No. And be careful what you wish for. We’ve had it recently, and it wasn’t pleasant, but we’re ok now, and pretty much recovered. It may be mild for some, but for others it’s not.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

Recent trial data found that only 16 of 38 candidates (44%) who were deliberately (and voluntarily) infected by having the covid virus sprayed directly into their nostrils contracted covid.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Gosh it’s just like the diamond Princess data that showed SARS2 was a nothing burger.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

How can anyone give a medical fact a downtick?

The cognitive dissonance levels of some people is astonishing.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

The phantom downticker is at least being fair. All of our comments are equally disliked!

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beornwulf
beornwulf
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

That’s interesting. This contrasts with something I read about in the magazine Nexus recently, where 100 healthy volunteers failed to contract the so-called Spanish flu in 1919, despite undergoing similar procedures. Could it be due to being told or not being told beforehand and thus involving a mental vcomponent in the outcome?

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  beornwulf

Its like the self fulfilling prophecy argument – what the mind believes the body conceives. If you convince yourself you are going to get run over by a bus, chances are you will be.

Research has been done to demonstrate that people who adopt the attitude of “it can’t happen to me /doesn’t apply to me” are invariably proven to the right – it doesn’t.

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sophie123
sophie123
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

My husband and I got delta back in October. He now has omicron while I can’t catch it. The difference? He’s vaxxed and I’m not.

I may steal some of his saliva though so I can renew my “recently recovered” status in case I need it for travel.

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Of the hundreds of thousands of viruses in constant circulation, and the tens of thousands of coronaviruses doing the rounds, what make you think your husband had any particular one?

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CarrieAH
CarrieAH
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

Me too, Blue Pill. I’ve been in contact with people who have subsequently tested positive for Covid so many times I’ve lost count. Even this past weekend I was sitting next to somebody at the dinner table who had just developed a stinking cold (no idea if that’s supposed to be covid or not yet) and who was sneezing all over my meal and wine glass. Yet I don’t have so much as a sniffle. Come to think of it, the last true cold I had was about 6 years ago, and influenza 20 years ago. For something that is supposed to be incredibly easy to catch, Omicron is a big disappointment for me! Not a chance.

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oblong
oblong
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

Have hope. I was like you until weekend.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

The God of Covid has not chosen you. Perhaps your heart is not pure?

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

You should travel to Northern Ireland – a day trip should do it – one in 15 people apparently have a “sub-variant” of O’micron.

Strewth – BBC puts out this rubbish and people swallow it whole. Its February – weather is rubbish and it is a cold.

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LMS2
LMS2
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

I’m unvaxxed, and caught Omicron on Xmas day from other family members after a very brief exposure. It’s very infectious.
I was unwell for two weeks overall, but never I’ll enough to stay in bed. MOH was ill enough to have been admitted to hospital for a week, after collapsing in the bathroom with a temperature of around 104F, and being too ill and weak to get up again.
It wasn’t just a cold for anyone in my family, but apart from MOH it also wasn’t as bad as the flu. We’ve had the flu, so we know.
There was a day or so when I wasn’t sure MOH was going to survive, and the doctors weren’t sure either, but we’re both home now, and fine.

If you’re relatively young and healthy, you’ll be fine when you do catch it, assuming you haven’t already and had no symptoms of had immunity. It’s very variable, with some people worse than others.
The vaxxed do seem to be more susceptible.

We’re still anti-experimental covid vaccine. We’re now theoretically immune until another version gets released that evades current immunity. And we still can’t travel because we’re not going to get vaccinated or a vaxx pass. I refuse to comply.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
3 years ago
Reply to  LMS2

I’m sorry some of your family experienced illness, but with respect, that sounds like it was definitely not Omicron. A household in my family got it two weeks ago, with two still testing positive, ages from mid thirty to mid sixty. Two had three doses of the so-called vaccine, one unvaccinated. One had a runny nose, one a mild cough, and one a mild headache. Had it not been for the lateral flow tests, none of them would not have believed themselves to be ill.

Similar story for everyone I personally know to have had positive LFTs in my area recently. One person I spoke to yesterday described it as “the mildest illness he had ever experienced” – it caused him to close his independent business because of two weeks of positive LFT results.

Last edited 3 years ago by TheBluePill
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dominicall
dominicall
3 years ago

Can we clarify what we mean by ‘Approved’ here?

Has this been through Phase 3 trials? What are the long-term studies on side effects and safety.

I’m guessing this is another Emergency Use Authorisation, not Licensed.

We’re in potentially dangerous territory here where new drugs will use these approvals as examples of not needing full trials. One day this will come back and bite us.

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  dominicall

I think that ‘Approved’ means they’ve done the worrying on your behalf and you should just learn to trust that they have your welfare at heart.

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Old Bill
Old Bill
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Approved means the coin came down heads. (but it was probably a double header anyway).

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  dominicall

Approved means they’ve said it’s approved. This makes it approved and they approve of it. That is how pharmaceuticals are brought to market now.

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Matt Mounsey
Matt Mounsey
3 years ago

I thought this vaccine was dead in the water when I read your safety update on 9th December, Will:

https://dailysceptic.org/2021/12/09/vaccine-safety-update-20/

The Novavax vaccine clinical trial results have been reported in three study papers, indicating some severe adverse reactions:

UK trial – systemic adverse events were much higher in the vaccine group and more than doubled following the second dose. Adverse reactions were also higher in younger age groups. There was one case of myocarditis in the vaccine group and none in the placebo, and two deaths related to COVID-19 were reported in the vaccine group compared with one in the placebo group.

South Africa trial – Medically-attended adverse events and serious adverse events occurred more often in the vaccine group than in the placebo group (13 versus six medically-attended adverse events and two versus one serious adverse events).

Animal trials in baboons and mice showed that functional antibody immunity induced by this nanoparticle vaccine and Matrix-M adjuvant depends on both the adjuvant and antigen components.

Surely they can’t release a product like this after getting this number of adverse reactions. Still it’s probably better than the gene therapies. It’s always troubled me that they all of a sudden managed to create a vaccine for a coronavirus after not being able to do so for decades. This one doesn’t seem to have overcome those safety concerns, either.

Strange that you didn’t allude to these earlier concerns in your article, Will.

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Will Jones
Author
Will Jones
3 years ago
Reply to  Matt Mounsey

Thanks Matt – good point. Have added it in.

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Matt Mounsey
Matt Mounsey
3 years ago
Reply to  Will Jones

Wow, thanks Will.

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  Matt Mounsey

FFS, how many more fake vaccines are need for this fake pandemic?

6000 covid deaths OVER COUNT.jpg
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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

There seems to be a persistent fault in my screen! it keeps showing a “A” instead of the correct “O” after the N in Office For

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

monitor cleaned

ONS.jpg
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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

The Office for Notional Statistics working in conjunction with the National Hoax Service.

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steve_z
steve_z
3 years ago

I still won’t bother. I had an earlier dose of the “really bad” covid and it was barely a cold. I think a lot of it is psychomatic. People worrying themselves ill.

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

I think a lot of it is psychomatic.

They’re probably working on a vaccine for that, too.

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Nessimmersion
Nessimmersion
3 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

They are
Its called You will have nothing and You Will Be Happy.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

Because it’s unnatural to be sad or anxious no matter what the circumstances. We have a pill to make it all go away …

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HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
3 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Me neither. I had a dose of original covid. And I got through it fairly quickly with no long term problems. Mind you I take hydroxychloroquine daily for an autoimmune condition…and vitamin D3…

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
3 years ago

nano particles , not liable , is a cold , is a no . thank you anyway!

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Bolloxed Britannia
Bolloxed Britannia
3 years ago

No thanx…After two years of contrived malevolence, and what seems to me as a deliberate attempt to harm and kill (midazolam) sections of the UK polulation, i am firmly anti vax, anti GP, anti “the science”, anti insidious media propaganda, and most definitely anti anything Westminster!

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
3 years ago
Reply to  Bolloxed Britannia

me too ! much better put than my comment .

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Bolloxed Britannia

Absolutely with you. I distrust and disapprove of the entire premise of this and all the other so-called vaccines, and the web of lies from which they spawned.

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Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Millions will never take any medication or “vaccine” on trust again.

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
3 years ago

and this whole thing was never about a virus we know that now thank you daily sceptic for all the information .

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rtaylor
rtaylor
3 years ago

How about we get some daily midday Sun and eat fish. I heard off the alternative press that vitamin D is good for the body.

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conocido en valenciana
conocido en valenciana
3 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

The huge benefits of Vitamin D should have been – and should still be now – all over the mainstream press, let alone the alternative. Of course, it’s cheap and very easy to obtain, facts that help explain why it hasn’t been widely recommended. There’s a Br Weinstein video about it on DHPodcast (still up on YT but also, I think, otherwise available). Also on YT, Dr. John Campbell.

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jingleballix
jingleballix
3 years ago

Why do we need a jab to counter a two year old virus.

Surely, we’re all – jabbed and unjabbed – immune now.

This is a slightly worrying point. What happens to unjabbed who might want to cave in and play ‘catch up’? Would it not be a bit daft to take the same jab?

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

In the Netherlands I think they’ve been a bit more up front about buying non-mRNA ‘vaccines’ especially for refuseniks. They can approve as many as they want though; I’ll refuse all of them!

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago

Caveat emptor.

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

Caveat jabbee.

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loopDloop
loopDloop
3 years ago

That’s going to be a no from me.

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Cristi.Neagu
Cristi.Neagu
3 years ago

Sorry, but these people have lost all credibility. I have 0 trust in them.

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Silke David
Silke David
3 years ago

It will be available in Germany from next week and apparently 2000 people have already booked an appointment. Sad.

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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago
Reply to  Silke David

‘Queueing macht frei’.

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JayBee
JayBee
3 years ago

The first version had problems with its adjuvant which led to its delay, see Malone’s first conference. Never got an update on what they changed, if at all.
If anything, it’d be Valneva for me, at the moment- the ex BioNTech Dr. agrees and went into this one in detail at Nachdenkseiten, though it has an adjuvant issue and risk as well.
So only if I couldn’t avoid it at all or get a shot besides the arm instead…
I am with here ATL recently linked to SA blogger Cory Sue on that one ever since the coercion, discrimination and censorship started:
I am taking a stand against all this by not getting vaccinated.

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Not sure what they changed? Probably the placebo.

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Margaret
Margaret
3 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

A few weeks ago, we asked our MP, both in a phone call and an accompanying letter, to find answers to the following questions:

  1. The jabs were only licensed under emergency use if no other treatments were available. Now that there are anti-viral drugs available, such as Molnupiravir etc, will the jabs no longer be under emgency licence?
  2. Why was the Valneva contract cancelled even though Kate Bingham declared this was an inexplicable move as the jabs board thought it would be a useful addition as a booster jab to their portfolio?
  3. Would the U.K. be following the USA in requiring laboratories to use PCR procedures which distinguish between Covid and Influenza?

Naturally, we are still awaiting a response.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

Common asthma treatment reduces need for hospitalisation in COVID-19 patients, study suggests | University of Oxford

PUBLISHED

9 FEB 2021

On 10th Feb 2021 the EUA should’ve been withdrawn

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PartyTime
PartyTime
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Indeed, and the recommendation of budesonide to GPs for outpatient COVID treatment was recently withdrawn. No explanation given but presumably to make way for the much more expensive Pfizer/Merck treatments.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  PartyTime

Would you happen to have a link? I like to curate them (and starting to archive the pages against “modification”)

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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

https://www.onmedica.com/documents/covid-19-therapeutic-alert-withdrawal-of-the-recommendation-for-consideration-of-inhaled-budesonide-as-a-treatment-option-for-covid-19?badge_id=regulatory-alerts

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

Thankyou! Bookmarked
This is truly mad! The studies showed Budesonide worked!

Last edited 3 years ago by TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

Withdrawal of the Recommendation for Consideration of Inhaled Budesonide as a Treatment Option for COVID-19

In parallel to the publication of revised guidance from the National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE), the previously published UK interim position statement covering inhaled budesonide as a treatment option for individuals with COVID infection has been withdrawn. Inhaled budesonide should no longer be considered as a treatment for COVID-19 infection

https://www.cas.mhra.gov.uk/ViewandAcknowledgment/ViewAlert.aspx?AlertID=103185

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)01744-X/fulltext

Inhaled budesonide for COVID-19 in people at high risk of complications in the community in the UK (PRINCIPLE)
Inhaled budesonide improves time to recovery, with a chance of also reducing hospital admissions or deaths (although our results did not meet the superiority threshold), in people with COVID-19 in the community who are at higher risk of complications.

Inhaled budesonide in the treatment of early COVID-19 (STOIC)
Early administration of inhaled budesonide reduced the likelihood of needing urgent medical care and reduced time to recovery after early COVID-19.

https://www.thelancet.com/article/S2213-2600(21)00160-0/fulltext

WHY HAS THIS TREATMENT BEEN WITHDRAWN?

Last edited 3 years ago by TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
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John Dee
John Dee
3 years ago

The idea that, after all the horrors that have been visited upon us in the last two years or so, sceptics (or the hesitant) would believe the labelling on a vial of vax is, surely, hilarious.
It could be warfarin, but labelled Novavax. It could be nanoparticles; it could be vaccum-cleaner-bag contents.
Add to this that it’ll be administered by folk who won’t even aspirate the syringe to ensure that they’re not shoving it straight into a vein – and the ‘No Thanks’ sign must remain in place.

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Emerald Fox
Emerald Fox
3 years ago

Another ‘vaccine’ that no-one needs to take for an illness that doesn’t exist (except in your mind).
Oh well, now that millions of doses have been made and paid for, we’d better line the gullible up yet again for their shots.
This will really help ‘Covid’ go away…

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Chris_uk
Chris_uk
3 years ago

Why would anyone trust yet another potion? The government, NHS, and entire medical professional has done nothing but harass, lie and generally make my life miserable for the last two years.

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris_uk

If the mRNA drugs are “Safe and effective” why do we need a conventional vaccine against covid?

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Common asthma treatment reduces need for hospitalisation in COVID-19 patients, study suggests | University of Oxford

Budesonide is safe and effective and cheap and doesn’t decay in effectiveness so we don’t need jabs FULLSTOP

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CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Why indeed!

Last edited 3 years ago by CovidiotAntiMasker
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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

To mop up the refuseniks I reckon. Good luck with that!

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RedhotScot
RedhotScot
3 years ago

Still no long term safety data.

What is it about Thalidomide that medics/scientists/politicians have forgotten?

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John
John
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Thalidomide is still used in some treatments, but not in pregnancy.

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John
John
3 years ago
Reply to  John

Why the down vote on a fact. Thalidomide is used in the treatment of some cancers and leprosy.

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janvanruth
janvanruth
3 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

everything….

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago

No bloody way.

Absolutely no chance I will allow the government to inject me ever again with a so-called vaccine.

What sort of trials has thing undergone?

There will not be any short, certainly no medium and definitely no long-term data on effectiveness or safety so it effectively remains untested. And let’s not forget the IFR for this poorliness is 0.15%. Quite simply we don’t damn well need it.

Are they releasing the recipe for this new brew? I wonder what secret ingredients this little monster contains.

Clearly this shit show is not over and the gaslighting continues. My position remains unchanged – I ain’t playing the game.

They can shove it.

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Fake trial was started in Spring 2020 and ended by government in Oct 2021. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/clinical-trialists-to-be-offered-top-up-vaccine-doses

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John001
John001
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Only 0.04% for Omicron.

Aka a severe cold.

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Bobby Lobster
Bobby Lobster
3 years ago

Sounds better, but no thanks. Spike proteins via the back door!

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John
John
3 years ago

Apparently it is the same approach as used for the shingles
“Subunit and conjugate vaccines only contain parts of the organism used to stimulate an immune response. They also cannot cause infection and are safe for immunocompromised patients. Examples of subunit and conjugate vaccines are:

  • Pneumococcus
  • Meningococcus
  • Hepatitis B
  • Pertussis (whooping cough)
  • Haemophilus influenza type B
  • Human papillomavirus (HPV)
  • Shingles (herpes-zoster virus)“
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ellie-em
ellie-em
3 years ago
Reply to  John

There’s been a lot of infomercials on the radio recently about shingles and how the dormant chickenpox virus can be reactivated. Perhaps they are anticipating a deluge of cases for some reason.

(I only have radio Smooth on in my car as I like the music when driving.)

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John
John
3 years ago
Reply to  ellie-em

Stress is a well known trigger for zoster reactivation. Reports of various herpes reactivations being associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection and the vaccines.

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Old Maid
Old Maid
3 years ago

But is it delivering exactly the blinking same spike protein from the original Wuham lab virus? What is the point?

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Old Maid

The nanocryptotrillioncredit question.

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago

Two years into this litany of lies and STILL they lie, and STILL the sheep suck it up. Its getting to the point where I feel they deserve what is, most probably, coming to them.

get injected and die.jpg
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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szilveszter_Csoll%C3%A1ny#Death

In November 2021, Csollány contracted an undisclosed variant of SARS-CoV-2. According to his doctor, he was given the Janssen COVID-19 vaccine two weeks before he fell ill. This vaccine requires only one dose. Csollány had previouly been critical of vaccination, but finally decided to get vaccinated, because of a job abroad.[2] He was hospitalised in mid-November 2021 with COVID-19 and put on a ventilator.[3] His condition became more serious in late November and he was transported from Sopron in Western Hungary to a hospital in the Hungarian capital Budapest.[4]
He died from COVID-19 in Budapest on 24 January 2022, at the age of 51.[5]

WIKIPEDIA IS BULLSHIT.

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

The lies that will be told to our children and grand children in schools about this fake pandemic and the bioweapon will be off the scale – but they will be expected to believe and regurgitate the lies in order to progress through the regimes system.

Same with the climate fakery.

What lies were we told at school?

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Old Bill
Old Bill
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

I was told if I masturbated a lot I would go blond.
I never did, still mousy, still dyslexic.

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conocido en valenciana
conocido en valenciana
3 years ago
Reply to  Old Bill

Never went blond or never the first bit?

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

So he became ill with “Covid” a couple of weeks after getting spiked? Well, isn’t that a massive coincidence!

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago

“MHRA Chief Executive Dr. June Raine, said: “Our approval of Nuvaxovid follows a rigorous review of the safety, quality and effectiveness of this vaccine, and expert advice from the government’s independent scientific advisory body, the Commission on Human Medicines.”

This from the people that brought you all the other “safe and effective” experimental drugs.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

June Raine spouting off in support – immediate Red FLAG.

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ellie-em
ellie-em
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

If they’ve followed the same rigorous reviews as the other rubbish they’ve given temporary authorisation, It’ll be a rigorous no from me.

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CynicalRealist
CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

It’s difficult to see how us sceptics will ever be able to have any trust in any new drugs again – how can we have any confidence at all in the regulators after the past couple of years?

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Makes you start to wonder about all the stuff they inject our kids with in school. How do we know these are safe, effective and necessary?

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PatrickF
PatrickF
3 years ago

Thanks for the offer of a new Vaxx. I’ll pass and look forward to the data in 10 years.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC8546144/

Large-scale COVID-19 vaccinations are currently underway in many countries in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Here, we report, besides generation of neutralizing antibodies, consistent alterations in hemoglobin A1c, serum sodium and potassium levels, coagulation profiles, and renal functions in healthy volunteers after vaccination with an inactivated SARS-CoV-2 vaccine. Similar changes had also been reported in COVID-19 patients, suggesting that vaccination mimicked an infection. Single-cell mRNA sequencing (scRNA-seq) of peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs) before and 28 days after the first inoculation also revealed consistent alterations in gene expression of many different immune cell types. Reduction of CD8+ T cells and increase in classic monocyte contents were exemplary. Moreover, scRNA-seq revealed increased NF-κB signaling and reduced type I interferon responses, which were confirmed by biological assays and also had been reported to occur after SARS-CoV-2 infection with aggravating symptoms. Altogether, our study recommends additional caution when vaccinating people with pre-existing clinical conditions, including diabetes, electrolyte imbalances, renal dysfunction, and coagulation disorders.

Probably the spike protein.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/13/10/2056/htm

SARS–CoV–2 Spike Impairs DNA Damage Repair and Inhibits V(D)J Recombination In Vitro
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS–CoV–2) has led to the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID–19) pandemic, severely affecting public health and the global economy. Adaptive immunity plays a crucial role in fighting against SARS–CoV–2 infection and directly influences the clinical outcomes of patients. Clinical studies have indicated that patients with severe COVID–19 exhibit delayed and weak adaptive immune responses; however, the mechanism by which SARS–CoV–2 impedes adaptive immunity remains unclear. Here, by using an in vitro cell line, we report that the SARS–CoV–2 spike protein significantly inhibits DNA damage repair, which is required for effective V(D)J recombination in adaptive immunity. Mechanistically, we found that the spike protein localizes in the nucleus and inhibits DNA damage repair by impeding key DNA repair protein BRCA1 and 53BP1 recruitment to the damage site. Our findings reveal a potential molecular mechanism by which the spike protein might impede adaptive immunity and underscore the potential side effects of full-length spike-based vaccines.

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Jo
Jo
3 years ago

What is point?

(A parody on Down the Line when I used to listen to the BBC)

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RickH
RickH
3 years ago

The same strictures apply. How sufficient is the testing framework? ARR?

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

was all cause mortality lower than the placebo group?

If not significantly lower then don’t bother even approving.

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janvanruth
janvanruth
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

all cause mortality was exactly 200% of the placebo group.
( two deaths instead of one)

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Not allowed to mention ARR. Supposed efficacy, UK style, is conjured out of thin air by junk-in junk-out ‘modelling’ – and the plebs swallow the lies hook line and sinker

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

Observational Findings of PULS Cardiac Test Findings for Inflammatory Markers in Patients Receiving mRNA Vaccines
AbstractThis clinic has been using the PULS Cardiac Test (Predictive Health Diagnostics Co., Irvine, CA) a clinically utilized measurement of multiple protein biomarkers, which generates a score predicting the 5 yr risk (percentage chance) of a new Acute Coronary Syndrome (ACS) called the PULS Score. The score is based on changes from the norm of multiple protein inflammatory biomarkers including IL-16, a proinflammatory cytokine, soluble Fas, an inducer of apoptosis, and Hepatocyte Growth Factor (HGF) which serves as a marker for chemotaxis of T-cells into epithelium and cardiac tissue, among other markers. Elevation above the norm increases the PULS score, while decreases below the norm lowers the PULS score. The PULS score has been measured every 3-6 months in our patient population for 8 years. Recently, with the advent of the mRNA COVID 19 vaccines (vac) by Moderna and Pfizer, we tracked the changes of the PULS score and three of the inflammatory markers it measures in all of our patients consecutively receiving these vaccines.
This report summarizes those results. A total of 566 pts, aged 28 to 97, M:F ratio 1:1 seen in a preventive cardiology practice had a previously scheduled PULS test drawn from 2 to 10 weeks following the 2nd mRNA COVID shot and was compared to the pt’s PULS test drawn 3 to 5 months previously pre-shot. Each vac pt’s PULS score and inflammatory marker changes were compared to their pre-vac PULS score, thus serving as their own control. There was no comparison made with unvaccinated patients or pts treated with other vaccines.
Baseline IL-16 increased from 35+/-20 above the norm to 82 +/- 75 above the norm post-vac; sFas increased from 22+/- 15 above the norm to 46+/-24 above the norm post vac; HGF increased from 42+/-12 above the norm to 86+/-31 above the norm post vac. These changes resulted in an increase of the pre vac PULS score of predicted 11% 5 yr ACS risk to a post vac PULS score of a predicted 25% 5 yr ACS risk, based on data which has not been validated in this population. No statistical comparison was done in this observational study.
In conclusion, the mRNA vacs numerically increase (but not statistically tested) the markers IL-16, Fas, and HGF, all markers previously described by others for denoting inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle, in a consecutive series of a single clinic patient population receiving mRNA vaccines without a control group.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago

Not interested in this one either.

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ellie-em
ellie-em
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Me neither.

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sam s.j.
sam s.j.
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

me neither nor any of the future ones they might try.

Last edited 3 years ago by sam s.j.
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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I’m not having any of their experimental garbage and neither are my kids.

These corporate drug pushers have a history of mafia-level criminality, wholesale medical fraud and systemic corruption – so why would I want any of their toxic junk in me?

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago

Common cold – side effects well known – possible benefits?

I appeal to the Government to move on. More important topics need your attention.

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rational
rational
3 years ago

What’s the justification for the anti-vax headline..?

What do you mean by gene therapy? This is a phrase thrown around by the mosr rabid anti-vaxxers.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  rational

warning troll above, ignore except to ridicule!

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago
Reply to  TheyLiveAndWeLockdown

I believe it’s Sealion variety of troll… The questions he’s asking were all debated ad nauseam in one or two threads yesterday.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes he’s stupid enough to think people here wouldn’t have seen YESTERDAY’s headlines showing the gene therapies are called gene therapies by pharmaceutical manufacturers (including Bayer)

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loopDloop
loopDloop
3 years ago
Reply to  rational

You seem like a lovely person and I sure hope you continue to contribute your wisdom to this site. Would be a real loss if you were to leave. That would be awful. Please don’t go.
/sarc off

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TheBluePill
TheBluePill
3 years ago
Reply to  rational

I thought we had lost this one, it must have been at a 77th brainwashing booster event or something.

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

You have to be anencephalic to be a 77 poster.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  rational

Who’s that trip trapping over my bridge?

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Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  rational

My little dog, rational, is back. I was told that he’d run five miles to just to retrieve a stick my neighbour had thrown. I thought, that’s far fetched.

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BS665
BS665
3 years ago

Isn’t this just admission that the others didn’t work?

Approve cyanide for all I care, just drop the coercion and discrimination.

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amanuensis
amanuensis
3 years ago

In its favour, this vaccine uses a known quantity of antigen, thus reducing the risks associated with vaccines that have unknown levels of antigen, such as the gene based vaccines.

On the other hand, the failure of the current crop of vaccines is:

  • worrysome rates of rare but relevant side effects (relevant in non-vulnerable groups).
  • waning effectiveness after approximately 90 days.
  • the risk of negative vaccine effectiveness (ie, does it make things worse)
  • the protection offered for hospitalisation/death (symptomatic disease is irrelevant for covid — while covid can be unpleasant, severe covid leading to hospitalisation is an autoimmune condition, and thus dependent on entirely different immune pathways compared with the ‘disease control’ aspect of the immune response).
  • the impact of viral mutation away from Wuhan strain on vaccine effectiveness.

The information we have about this new vaccine doesn’t answer any of those concerns. I imagine that it would be no better than the current gene-based vaccines (that is, at best fairly useless in the non-vulnerable, and potentially makes things worse).

Last edited 3 years ago by amanuensis
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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

‘side effects’ is a government euphanism for injection injury.

By the authorities own long-established method of counting there are upwards of 500,000 deaths and millions of injuries from these injections in the US and Europe – and you label that level of incidence ‘rare’ and little bit ‘worrysome’.

How can there be ‘waning effectiveness’ when these fake vaccines start out with zero effectiveness?

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

Thanks for pointing this out. Helpful.

“while covid can be unpleasant, severe covid leading to hospitalisation is an autoimmune condition, and thus dependent on entirely different immune pathways compared with the ‘disease control’ aspect of the immune response”

Shame no one can point this out to the BBC and their “journalists” can’t provide this perspective to the UK population [and the rest of the world if they happen to be watching/listening]

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hi60
hi60
3 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

“I imagine that it would be no better than the current gene-based vaccines”

Agreed, and Flu vaccines. Accordingly no mandates should be considered and effectiveness expectations should be low.

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago

The ‘vaccine’ began trials in summer 2020, and these trials ended in October 2021 when participants were given other makes of ‘vaccines’.

So the trials, as such, lasted around 18 months.

How is it possible to ascertain mid to long term safety with such a short trial period?

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/clinical-trialists-to-be-offered-top-up-vaccine-doses

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Sforzesca
Sforzesca
3 years ago

One ingredient which is I think in all conventional vaccines continues to spellbind me.
Step forward the adjuvant.
More properly known as the immunologists dirty little secret.
The ones used here are from tree bark, natural to a point and maybe an improvement on formaldehyde, aluminium, mercury etc.
First used in the 30’s as a preservative whereby by happy (?) chance the said ingredients were found to vastly extend the immunological effect of vaccines. Shame though that they are toxic…

That said, immunologists freely admit (when pressed) that they haven’t got a bloody clue as to precisely how and why they work. A Nobel prize awaits…..
Therefore the short, medium and long term effect they have on the immune system is completely unknown.

So it’s a big no from me, but there again I suppose I’ve been an “anti-vaxxer” since the late 80’s.
Why vaccinate against a cold.
The immune system needs to continue to be challenged

Last edited 3 years ago by Sforzesca
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loopDloop
loopDloop
3 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

Yes, this. You’ve nailed it Sforzesca. The adjuvant is the elephant in the room. Without it vaccines do nothing. Yet, as you say, they literally have no idea what they are doing with the adjuvant, why it works, what it does. Even that word: think about it: adjuvant. What does it tell you? Nothing. It’s a non word. It makes you just look away, nothing to see here. Just an adjuvant, some non-entity, don’t worry about it. So it used to be formaldehyde. Which should not under any circumstances ever be introduced into a living human body in any quantity. Yet, no worries, they just bung it every single vaccine and then slam it into new born babies. Welcome to hell, I mean earth. Then there’s the aluminium based adjuvants. Again, aluminium, literally plays no role in the physiology of life, not one atom of aluminium involved in living human beings, but yep, let’s use it for the ‘adjuvant’, there’s that word, in these vaccines. Gives them a little kick. Actually, that’s exactly what it does, gives the immune system a kick, because its so foreign in every sense, so gives the immune system a hearty kick, and gets the whole ball rolling. Then it passes over the blood brain barrier into the brain and causes inflammation. Which is exactly what autism is. Rates have gone from 1 in 10,000 in the 1970s to 1 in 33 now, and on our way to 1 in 2. It’s over. Rebadged by Big Pharma as neurodiversity to sell it back to the kids, who are snapping it up. Just like they love the mRNA and the masks, the younger generation just slurp all this stuff up. SO where was I, that’s right, adjuvants. Oh, so this new one is safe is it. Great. Roll up roll up.

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loopDloop
loopDloop
3 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

Want reference? Here:

How to end the autism epidemic. J.B.Handley.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Autism-Epidemic-J-B-Handley-ebook/dp/B07FSVNY1M

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ellie-em
ellie-em
3 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

This is interesting. The Simpsonwood meeting and child vaccination.

https://truthsnitch.com/tag/simpsonwood-transcript/

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TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  ellie-em

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Wetterhahn

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

Wonder what Edward Jenner used as an “adjuvant”?

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neilhartley
neilhartley
3 years ago

“The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency has said it is safe as a first and second dose in adults.” Safe despite the side effects already identified…to protect against a sniffle…ffs.

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paul parmenter
paul parmenter
3 years ago

OK; but now we need answers to the questions that really matter. Who owns Novovax? Who are its shareholders? Who has funded the research into this new vaccine? Who stands to gain financially if it is rolled out?

Until we have full answers to all these questions, we won’t know whether we should give it a chance. And if any of a certain bunch of well-known names start appearing out of the woodwork, we will know for sure not to touch it with a ten-foot barge pole.

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago

I’m revising my question posted yesterday or the day before, from ‘what are they trying to stop’? to ‘what are they all really afraid they are about to lose’?

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Hopeless - "TN,BN"
Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

Sqillions of quids.

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Hopeless - "TN,BN"
Hopeless - "TN,BN"
3 years ago

The day that MHRA say or do anything sensible has yet to come. We seem to be in a position where anything goes. If “vaccine” A doesn’t work fully after two doses, then try another one of B. No real data on how they do, or may interact, so it’s a medical pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey experiment.

Lo and behold, some more lightly-tested jollop comes along, with what looks like rather premature findings.

There’s gold in them thar arms.

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sjonesy1999
sjonesy1999
3 years ago

I trust nothing from any Government now. My sleeve will stay down.

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ElSabio
ElSabio
3 years ago
Reply to  sjonesy1999

Hear! Hear! Have a star….

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Liz F
Liz F
3 years ago

How could Novovax claim in December that two doses of their new gunge was found to be effective against omicron? I thought omicron only turned up in November? Any long term safety data? Thought not.

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ElSabio
ElSabio
3 years ago
Reply to  Liz F

Very good point.

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

Warp speed ……………….

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Julian
Julian
3 years ago

I thought everyone had been vaccinated against covid, who wanted to be. Why would we need another vaccine? Against strains that seem to have disappeared?

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ElSabio
ElSabio
3 years ago

Anyone else hear the jingle of thirty pieces of silver…?

However, as it delivers only a set dose of spike protein, rather than genetic material that induces cells to generate an indefinite amount of spike protein potentially throughout the body, scientists hope it may suffer from fewer of the safety issues that have beset the genetic-based vaccines.

The only safe rona vaccine is one that remains in the vial.

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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

The only safe rona vaccine is one that remains in the Autoclave

FTFY 😉

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ElSabio
ElSabio
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

I thank you; have a star….

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nbritt58
nbritt58
3 years ago

It will be interesting to follow the Yellow Card reports, as they currently group adverse reactions by individual vaccine. Having seen the reports for the other vaccines I’m going to be in no hurry to get this one either. It’s still the spike protein and we know the spike protein itself is toxic

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Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago

“…with tens of thousands of people taking part in clinical trials here in the U.K….”

Millions surely?

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chris-ds
chris-ds
3 years ago

A vaccine for those anti(mRNA)-vaxxers!!

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cornubian
cornubian
3 years ago

This right here…

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kate
kate
3 years ago

A bit more about the attempt to alert the NZ government of contamination/nanotech in the vaxxes.
After being denied a meeting with the Director General of Health and other health officials, the information was presented to a Health Select Committee through lawyer Sue Grey where again attempts were made to stop the information from being presented.
Dr Matthew Shelton talks to Sue Grey about the findings and Donna Pokere-Phillips, a Maori Minister of the People outside of parliament

https://futurenews.news/watch?id=61f8a3c91a1abc308b86b5e2
https://odysee.com/@spearhead4truth:e/Nanotech-discovery-280122:9

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GimpbusterMSc
GimpbusterMSc
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

these Sue Greys get about a bit. Are they clones?

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kate
kate
3 years ago

Scientist Denis Rancourt returns to discuss his new paper which demonstrates that a pandemic did not occur. Whereas in some countries there was little to no excess mortality, in others like the USA, the 1 million excess deaths can be attributed directly to the government health measures and pandemic-response policies. He sees no evidence for a virulent respiratory disease. The U.S. is decoupling from China with whom it is in an economic war. As a result, there’s going to be huge inflation which will wipe out the savings of ordinary people. He sees “COVID19” as being war measures applied to completely control domestic populations in the shadow of the U.S.-China geopolitical and geoeconomic conflict that will last at least a decade and even risk hot war. A totalitarian system is being put into place to get rid of democracy, and it has the potential to last a really long time. All countries must apply these measures in the context of this global war to ensure stability against unrest among their own populations. He thinks Western elites want an e-currency that will take over the world and gobble up any completing digital currencies, and which also cannot be circumvented. We also discuss resistance and non-compliance.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/CvSFYAM4pMP1/

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

I listened to his Geopolitics & Empire podcast last night. https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/geopolitics-empire/id1003465597?i=1000547743062 He makes a very convincing case.

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A passerby
A passerby
3 years ago
Reply to  kate

Listened to the link. Both enlightening and depressing. Sounds logical, covid farce now begins to make sense. Very, very dark. Begs the question, what is their next plan if the latest scam fails. War, or at least the suggestion of, just to control paranoia long enough to force through their ultimate agenda. I seriously hope that someone somewhere catches a luck virus and puts a stop to this.

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ElSabio
ElSabio
3 years ago

Okay, completely off topic (sort of), but this just shows what a billionaire can do with a snap of his fingers. It makes you wonder what all those new billionaires in big pharma are getting for a snap of their fingers….

Dutch city to dismantle historic bridge to allow Jeff Bezos’s superyacht to squeeze through.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/dutch-city-to-dismantle-historic-bridge-to-allow-jeff-bezos-superyacht-to-squeeze-through-11643871178?mod=mw_latestnews

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

My take also – says it all really.

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Catee
Catee
3 years ago

So how many doses have they preordered? no doubt another appalling contract they’ve signed up to that will cost us billions over the next decade.

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ElSabio
ElSabio
3 years ago

One for the mods….

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

Spot on!

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milesahead
milesahead
3 years ago

Another jab with no medium-to-long term safety data?

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

The pharmaceutical industry is clearly in auto pilot, continuing to work and talk as though there’s an emergency. Sounds like they don’t get out much.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago

So now more horseshoe crabs need to die for some deceptive fraudulent political reason.

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ImpObs
ImpObs
3 years ago

Another spike? LOL, just LOL.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

Somebody really wants that spike protein in everyone.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

“Novavax Covid Vaccine Approved by U.K. – And This One Isn’t Gene Therapy …”

 
Could it be the case that the mRNA gene serums got so much bad publicity and backlash that they have decided to withdraw and regroup? They tell us Novavax is not mRNA based, but after the criminal fiasco of the last two years, I would not believe a word they’d now say.
 
And what about the hydrogel and nanotechnology? Can Novavax be utilised to insert this into human bodies?
 
I think it’s now a case of them having their field trials completed in regards the mRNA spike proteins, the nanotechnology and toxicity levels, but in the process having scared the hell out of people through the amount of injuries and deaths caused.
 
So, now they need to get people used to vaccines again, hence Novavax, which they tell us is based on age-old vaccine creation principles. The truth, though, about COVID-19 is that there never was any need for vaccines, except in the old and in people with comorbidities.
 
The further truth about all flu vaccines, those that they have eagerly dished out over the last two decades, is that there was absolutely no need for them either, except in the two latter groups mentioned in the previous paragraph.
 
Human immune systems are like muscles, they have to be exercised to reach their full potential. If a person lay in bed for a number of years, never getting up, their legs muscles would fade away to almost nothing.
 
After years in bed, when this person did finally get up they’d find that their leg muscles were not capable of holding them up. As they lay still, their nervous system would have detected that their leg muscles were not being used, and would have stopped sending resources to them.
 
It’s the opposite when a person exercises: the nervous system detects the muscles are working harder and therefore sends more resources to them.  
 
Dosing healthy bodies up with needless vaccines is the equivalent of their immune systems lolling around in bed for long periods of time. When vaccines beat off minor viruses like the common cold and flu in young people, their immune systems simply don’t get the exercise and practice they should be getting.
 
Like with muscles that are not being used, the nervous system will not send resources to immune systems that are not being used or are being under used.
 
A public chat about vaccines is badly needed. As is a chat about Public/Private partnerships, which essentially means giving corporations control over democratically elected governments.
 
We could take a lesson from the Canadians in regards vaccines and governments that genuflect to Corporate Financial Power.
 
Canadian police called in tow-trucks to remove the vehicles of protesting truck drivers.
 
The tow-truck drivers answered the call and went to the protesting truck drivers, but then did this to the police.

:-()

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ellie-em
ellie-em
3 years ago

Oh the irony, considering the dubious stuff the NHS and the government are peddling.
It was in response to beauticians using some forms of Botox.
Someone asked in comments if the beauticians can apply for emergency measures.
Comedy gold

https://mobile.twitter.com/sajidjavid/status/1489226867844562944

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Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  ellie-em

Brilliant! Great pick up.

I am sure if they shoved some mRNA into the old botox jabs they’d be totally safe (and effective)

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  ellie-em

I think there just may be a case for having a ”health secretary” who isn’t scientifically illiterate.

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Barbara Baker
Barbara Baker
3 years ago

A lot of comments about trials/authorisation
on this article

There is a CONSULTATION on changes to how clinical trials will be handled in future-
read it and TAKE PART if you care:

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/consultation-on-proposals-for-legislative-changes-for-clinical-trials

I don’t know if this has been posted previously, but worth a reminder and sharing

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  Barbara Baker

Surely it is the ‘licensing’ of a drug that’s important?

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thinkcriticall
thinkcriticall
3 years ago

This

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_qrzGK2EdI

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago

If I staple my balls to a chair do you think they’ll give me a covid pass?

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Really want to go on weekend city break.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

And clubbing in Scotland.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

“Staples”?

Bah.

A real man would need six-inch nails. 🙂

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Old Maid
Old Maid
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

You been watching Serpent and the Rainbow again? Mind you, wasn’t that about a drug that brings people back to life as zombies? Seems mighty appropriate.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  Old Maid

It was a long shot. I’d need to wait for the MHRA to approve the staples and that could take up to a week; wanted to go away this weekend.

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tom171uk
tom171uk
3 years ago

It seems a bit late: everyone who wants a jab (or three) has surely done so. Although they seem to be admitting that the previous vaccines don’t work very well so perhaps disappointed true believers will queue up for a few jabs of this one now.

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

If at first you don’t decease, jab, jab and jab again.

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ellie-em
ellie-em
3 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

I wonder if there’s something in them to cause addiction? Some folk can’t wait to offer their arms, time and time again.

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Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago

It’s always been a trivial threat to most people.

Why would any rational person let themselves be injected with unnecessary experimental gunk?

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Boomer Bloke
Boomer Bloke
3 years ago

As far as believing anything vaccines, covid or ‘the science’ related published by the establishment, that particular ship has sailed. I’ll remain vaccine and hopefully NHS free for as long as I can.

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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago

Novavax Nuvaxovid 🤣
Great name. Have some suggestions for future vaxoids they might develop:

  • Nuvavaxovolvovax
  • NovaxDjokovaxovid
  • Novovaxovolvonix
  • ChampagneSuperNovax
  • IvorNovelloxolovid
  • NevilleChamberlaxovid
  • SmithKleinBeechvaxovolax
  • Vaxvacuumcleanervax
  • Mr Snufferlophavaxolid
  • Lackadaisivax
  • Whoopsiedaisivax
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crisisgarden
crisisgarden
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I’m Dr June Raine and I hereby approve all the new vaccines listed above.

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attilathemum
attilathemum
3 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

😂

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
3 years ago

That people even feel comfortable still talking in these terms is a mystery to me. We are dealing with a manifest evil that has nothing to do with prophylactic steps or behavioural modifications. This is a much deeper attack and you have to address it from the core of your being. Even if it feels like a bald chicken.

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Nymeria
Nymeria
3 years ago

Nope. Still won’t be having it.

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Watney
Watney
3 years ago

Only emergency authorised for 1st & 2nd doses, not as a booster.
If you succumbed to the AZ or Pfizer for those holiday benefits gotta stick with mRNA!
And you’ll need the booster for foreign holidays soon enough so they will get you!
I’d like to know where the Valneva is as it is the most conventional.
Perhaps that and this Novavax might be pushed to the NHS staff who only got a reprieve this week despite what the MSM says while Javid forces it on them through regulatory bodies etc

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bringbacksanity
bringbacksanity
3 years ago

Anyone able to ask Chris Whitty about this new junk ? In fact, has anyone been able to find “Sir” Chris in recent months ?

Anyone asked Paddy Valance Sheet ? Is he on holiday, because he is triple jabbed ?

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Nymeria
Nymeria
3 years ago
Reply to  bringbacksanity

Probably locked away in a cupboard with his wank magazine of choice: The Lancet.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
3 years ago

Just get it down your gullet along with everything else. It’s ridiculous. I have some expertise in plant based medicine and I just bought lots of vitamin supplemets for the people I knew because I didn’t know where the disease was heading and I knew that you can only give people so much. I don’t wish to preach but in the age of the internet we have access so many different herbal approaches at once. I started with it twenty years ago and it is immensely powerful. We seem to be living into a world of darkness but there are promising signs of a world to come.Herbalism, Atlantis, the union of the intellectual and the moral.That was the real lesson of the last two years.

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dismalswamp
dismalswamp
3 years ago

Too late Novavax, that ship has sunk.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
3 years ago

An Indonesian study showed that good oral hygiene measures alone brought about drastic reductions. Funny how no one mention such things here. It is a powerful tool but it isn’t insurmountable. They have immense resources but very often they seem rather stupid and short-sighted. We are better than them. Wiser, cleverer and more moral.You shouldn’t see this force as a Behemoth.

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nbritt58
nbritt58
3 years ago

No thanks. I’m an anti-Vaxxer – I never wash my carpets

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Annie
Annie
3 years ago
Reply to  nbritt58

nbritt abhors a vacuum.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
3 years ago

Isn’t the very process unholy. That you would tell your body to create this thing based upon a computer sequence without any real examination not only of the effect of the produced spike but also that you would instruct your body to make it. There are levels of intervention that cause a rupture and schism in our reality and if you don’t have the wisdom to see them then you shouldn’t be tampering with them. They weaponised our neurosis against ourselves and it wasn’t particularly difficult. Perhaps science students should spend six months studying the philosophy of science although at this point I doubt that it would even sink in.

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HicManemus
HicManemus
3 years ago

Anyone remember Valneva? The inactivated “dead” vaccine manufacturer whose contract for supplying umpteen thousand vaccines to the UK was peremptorily cancelled by Sajid Javid in September 2021. And whose new manufacturing facilities in Livingston, Scotland was supported with UK government grants.

Well, it looks like the UK government has had to cough up USD250 million to cancel the contract.

PM website (Pharma Europe magazine) reported back in September 2021: “The termination, which seems to have come without warning and with very little information, caused the company’s shares to fall by around 40% in early trading, wiping out nearly half its market cap, although the price rose later.

“The agreement allows the UK government to terminate the contract early in a relatively wide range of circumstances including safety issues, lack of efficacy or a breakdown in supply as well as financial difficulties. However, none of these scenarios are evident as an explanation for the sudden termination.”

What really WAS behind the cancellation?

Shame, since this is the only vaccine that I would consider being injected with.

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ellie-em
ellie-em
3 years ago
Reply to  HicManemus

Probably incompatible with the mRNA boosters that they insist on. By hook or by crook, they are determined that everyone jabbed has at least one jab of mRNA.

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Watney
Watney
3 years ago
Reply to  HicManemus

I’d like to know more about the Valneva. It is deeply suspicious we’re pushed the mRNA, even the cheaper “world-beating” AZ has fallen by the wayside.
Follow the money?

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Steve-Devon
Steve-Devon
3 years ago
Reply to  HicManemus

I am a participant in the Valneva trial and have received 2 injections of Valneva, no adverse reactions, no side effects and no covid. The UK part of the trial is being run by NHS research and is continuing despite the debacle over the contract. Shortly after the Valneva contract was cancelled, the Gov announced a major deal with Pfizer to set up a vaccine facility near Swindon! The whole world of vaccines seems riddled with shady double dealings, sharp practice and political shenanigans.
I had heard talk that Valneva were moving their manufacturing site from Scotland to Belarus, they are going for approval in the EU, ironically using a lot of trials data from the UK.

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  HicManemus

Perhaps it was safe and effective – maybe that was behind the cancellation.

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Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
3 years ago

It was their soul path to take the shot and we have to accept it. They will come back next time with more refinement. Frankly there has been a lot of coercion and persuasion in western countries but not an amount that would be unbearable to a warrior. The warrior is tempered in the fire. Maybe in the last life we went through that and they didn’t. In terms of human destiny the theosophical movement stressed that the most important revelation of our time is the acknowledgement of reincarnation. It really does change everything.

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4PureBlood
4PureBlood
3 years ago

There Are Now 365 Studies that Prove the Efficacy of Ivermectin and HCQ in Treating COVID-19. Any hospital administrator who mandated the shots to employees to comply with the government mandate for Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement and who refused to allow alternative treatments to be tried, doctors who pushed their patients to take the EUA drug without giving fully informed consent, anyone who forcefully administered the shot, the AMA, AAP, Boards of Health, CDC, FDA, NIH, WHO, scientists who participated in the development, Big Pharma (Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, Astra Zeneca, et. al.), anyone who pushed the sick into nursing homes resulting in deaths, all must be arrested, prosecuted, tried and if found guilty sentenced to prolonged imprisonment and fines or death for intentional homicide. Get your ivermectin before it is too late! https://ivmpharmacy.com

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rational
rational
3 years ago

Which of the vaccines are “gene therapy”?
What justifies Will Jones in making such statements?
It’s obviously not true and just anti-vaxx rhetoric.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  rational

There was an excellent article this week on why the vaccines are indeed ‘gene therapies’. I suggest you read it and try very very hard to get your little brain cells round it before you continue to make an absolute fool of yourself.

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  rational

Listen to one of the people involved in developing it. He may be able to explain it in such a way, you may understand.

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peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago

I have some sympathy for people looking for alternatives to ‘gene therapies’. Novavax probably qualifies, if it ever appears Valneva should. Why sympathy, because of our dear leader in France who has declared that all those poor souls who got double jabbed have to get a third jab with a mRNA ‘so-called vaccine’. No choice at all. So any citizen of France wishing to emerge fro his/her cave has to get a mRNA jab. Not satisfied with this our dear leader now has decided that anyone from anywhere wishing to enter France 9 months after their last jab can only do so if they have had a mRNA third jab. Even Biden in the US allows the Janssen as an option, but not our dear leader. No-one trying to exit France is ‘fully vaccinated’ without this 3rd mRNA jab, and god help you if you want to go anywhere outside the EU without special permission.
You think NZ is bad, well France is doing a pretty good imitation.
I am pleased to say that with every prison there are always very small escape routes, but you will forgive me for keeping them to myself.

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Wokey Dokey
Wokey Dokey
3 years ago

Does this mean the ’emergency measures’ will be extended next month?
Correct me if I am wrong, but these jabs can only be green lit for use when there are emergency measures in place?

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  Wokey Dokey

If the CoronaCircus Act is coming up for renewal in March, what excuse will they find for renewing it?

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godders
godders
3 years ago

“Scientists hope it may suffer from fewer of the safety issues. . . “.

I stopped reading at this point. What the hell is Daily Sceptic doing promoting (yes, you are, whether you realise it or not!) Big Pharma’s latest dodgy snake oil, which scientists “hope” will be better than its abject predecessors.

Honestly!

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mojo
mojo
3 years ago

There are so many very good overbthe counter products a vaccine is not needed. Our immune systems are our best defence against coughs, colds and flu. Vaccines are now totally mistrusted by many and the information available is showing that many vaccinated mothers do not pass their own immunity on to their new born babies. We must get away from manufactured artificial medicine.

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m vendee
m vendee
3 years ago

Don’t give two hoots what’s been approved. I shan’t be taking it.

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  m vendee

”Approved” and not ”licensed”.

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Wilt
Wilt
3 years ago

Just a quick question but has anyone seen the “Emergency “ because I for one have not!
Why do the government still have these powers ???

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bowlsman
bowlsman
3 years ago
Reply to  Wilt

Because they like them and don’t want to let go. Besides they can refine them for the campaign to come over the climate nonesense. We who want to be free as we always have are to have a major fight on our hands in the coming years.

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Banjones
Banjones
3 years ago
Reply to  Wilt

Because the CoronaCircus Act is still current, isn’t it – until March? That’s why the quacksine is permitted for ”emergency use”. And isn’t there something about immunity from prosecution if it’s being used in an ”emergency” situation? I’m sure someone can clarify.

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bowlsman
bowlsman
3 years ago

There’s no more of this stuff going into me.
The more that’s known about them and downsides makes me angry with myself for having the first 2 and not sticking to my origional instinct that it was fundamentally wrong push this new technology without full trials.
I suppose at the time I panicked about getting my life back.
I’ll take my chances going forward as I always have done.
If I get and die it’s nobody’s fault but mine.

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Owens57
Owens57
3 years ago

Surprised they could get any unvaccinated trial participants in the U.K. trials at least.

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hi60
hi60
3 years ago

Curious timing?

My understanding was that the protein subunit as a vaccine was not that well established or very widely used? I expect using their own Matrix-M adjuvant and again based exclusively on the pathogenic Spike will be enough to dismiss it for the Covid vaccine hesitant.

Even China and India’s whole inactivated vaccines have a similar breadth of side effects to the highly experimental mRNA and ADV ones, implying at least dead viral S can still harm.

The only advantage here is that the amount of each cytotoxic inoculum is known, as Will points out. But with a IFR of <0.1% (UK) why would any one hesitant bother?

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David Beaton
David Beaton
3 years ago

So “Still based on the (synthetic) spike protein” – so no real change!

“Spike proteins” are not good for you.

Last edited 3 years ago by David Beaton
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rayc
rayc
3 years ago

I think the main point of releasing this Novavax vaccine is to allow putting more blame on the unvaccinated for not taking it (“it’s not even mRNA, and the evil crazy anti-social anti-vaxxers are still resisting!”)

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conocido en valenciana
conocido en valenciana
3 years ago

Interestingly enough, the BBC article (reached via the “Worth reading in full” link, above) didn’t mention that “the clinical trials did report some severe adverse reactions”, nor report what those reactions were. Must just be an oversight on their part. Their Health Correspondent wouldn’t, I’m absolutely sure, have deliberately omitted this information.

On a different note, I personally couldn’t care less that Scientists say this approach makes it simpler to produce than some other vaccines and means it can be stored in a refrigerator.

Big deal. Is it safe? That’s my only question.

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marebobowl
marebobowl
3 years ago

No thanks. Does anyone know why the use of early treatments with repurposed drugs that are shown to be safe and effective are still not available. Products that cost pennies. Instead here is one more experimental biological, with minimal safety or efficacy data and no one even knows what the hell is in this stuff. No thanks!

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Think Harder
Think Harder
3 years ago

It’s probably safer but it it still isn’t necessary for everyone.

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janvanruth
janvanruth
3 years ago

so in fact the vaccination doubled the mortality rate….
why not just inject cyanide.
100% reduction in infection.
and 100% protection against death from covid19…

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