I greatly enjoyed Steven Tucker’s very amusing piece about the Roman emperor Elagabalus (218-22) and the attempt by North Hertfordshire Museum to present this strange young man as a transgender and gay icon. On the face of this falls into the same nonsensical area as recent claims that Black Death London was a nightmare where people of colour were more likely to die thanks to the embedded racism of medieval England based on skull measurements (Inaya Folarin Iman has written an excellent piece on that in the Mail).
However, in Elagabalus’s case, I’m not so sure the story is so easily rubbished. I covered him in my book Domina: The Women Who Made Imperial Rome (Yale University Press, 2018). Elagabalus, actually born Varius Avitus Bassianus, was the grandson of Julia Maesa, sister-in-law of the emperor Septimius Severus (193-211). Maesa and her sister Domna were members of a Syrian aristocratic family from Emesa (Homs). After Severus died in York in 211 on campaign in Britain, the Roman Empire was inherited by his sons Caracalla and Geta. Caracalla killed Geta in their widowed mother’s arms in 212 and proceeded on a bloody and tyrannical reign that ended in his murder in 217. Bereft of status and power, as well as being afflicted by (probably) breast cancer, Domna committed suicide.
Caracalla had been murdered in a conspiracy led by Macrinus, praetorian prefect. Maesa was disgusted by this low-born man taking power and her own loss of status once her sister was dead too. A widow herself, she dreamed up an idea – she had two widowed daughters, each of whom had a young son. With no adult men in the way Maesa decided they could serve as an heir and a spare while the women did the ruling.
In 218 Maesa mounted her own conspiracy to get rid of Macrinus and present her grandson, still only 14 years old, as the new emperor. The young Avitus Bassianus was a fanatical priest in the cult of the sun god Heliogabalus (hence his nickname Elagabalus) which wasn’t a great asset. However, he was said to be fantastically good-looking, and bore a convenient resemblance to Caracalla. This made it easy to sell him to the army because Caracalla had paid the soldiers well. Macrinus was done away with, and the Syrian family set out for Rome.
Eventually in 219 the new emperor reached Rome, bringing with him the sacred stone (probably a meteorite) of his eponymous cult. As it entered the city the new court and its entourage must have looked and sounded like an avalanche in a seraglio. At least Elagabalus had the wit to travel to the Senate in his grandmother’s company, on the basis that she would enhance his own lack of authority.
He’d also sent a picture of himself in advance to let the Romans know what to expect. They were less shocked than they might have been and meekly accepted Elagabalus’s accession donative. A new temple was built and the theatrical cult rituals instigated, which involved vast numbers of animals sacrificed daily and Phoenician women dancing and playing instruments.
Overnight Rome started looking like the headquarters of a supercharged oriental despot from some outlandish myth. Appropriately enough the Romans nicknamed him ‘The Assyrian’. Elagabalus compounded his weirdness, according to Cassius Dio, by considering having his genitals amputated as part of his preference for effeminacy but decided in a moment of uncharacteristic restraint to desist. He contented himself instead with circumcision of himself and his cult associates as part of the rituals. Dio adds a number of other lugubrious details of Elagabalus’s antics, recounted with suitable prurient outrage, such as “he would go to the taverns by night, wearing a wig, and there ply the trade of a female huckster”. On other occasions he stood naked at the door of his palace rooms and solicit passers-by. Despite allegedly sleeping with numerous women he is supposed to have done everything possible to look like and go about as a woman. Eventually he took up with a charioteer called Hierocles and posed as Hierocles’s wife.
He had three disastrous marriages, including one to a Vestal Virgin, but otherwise indulged in a succession of homosexual and heterosexual liaisons.
That’s just one aspect of his peculiar behaviour reported by the senator Cassius Dio who was a contemporary. What’s more, Dio was probably in Rome. He certainly had the right contacts. Dio was no fool and at other points in his long history he is at pains to tell his readers when he had been an eyewitness to events of his own time. But he was influenced by subsequently being honoured by Elagabalus’s cousin and successor, Severus Alexander (222-35). Moreover, we don’t actually have Dio’s original account. What we have instead is an epitome – a summary – written up centuries later in abbreviated form and with some gaps.
Another contemporary, an imperial official called Herodian (but whose whereabouts in 218-22 cannot be determined), reported how Elagabalus, whose formal name as emperor was Marcus Aurelius Antoninus Pius, designed to give him a spurious lineage from famous emperors of the past) relished the most expensive clothing. This allegedly infuriated his grandmother Maesa, who could see her plans were going to end in tears. The young Emperor obsessively and extravagantly pursued his cult as well as driving a chariot. But “he used to go out with painted eyes and rouge on his cheeks, spoiling his natural good looks by using disgusting make-up”, said Herodian.
Maesa knew this would revolt the soldiers. She had already been on the receiving end of the young popinjay’s fury when she criticised him. She started lining up his cousin, Severus Alexander, to replace him. The soldiers (which means the Praetorian Guard in Rome) were disgusted “by the sight of the emperor with his face made-up more elaborately than a modest woman would have done, and effeminately dressed up with golden necklaces and soft clothes, dancing for everyone to see in this state” (Herodian again).
Around a century later, in a biography of Elagabalus, the tradition had endured. It reports that “he wished to wear also a jewelled diadem in order that his beauty might be increased and his face look more like a woman’s; and in his own house he did wear one”.
The upshot of it all is that in 222 Elagabalus and his hapless mother were murdered by the Praetorian Guard. His body, at least, was thrown into the Tiber. Severus Alexander was made emperor and lasted thirteen years until he and his mother Mamaea were murdered too. Lucky old Maesa had already pegged it from old age.
Now, it is undoubtedly true that in Roman tradition any hint that a man had become ‘effeminated’ was treated as evidence of unhealthy influence of women and male weakness. Mark Antony was seen as having become enslaved to Cleopatra after being softened up in advance by his previous wife, the dominant and fearsomely effective Fulvia. Cassius Dio, and before him the historian Tacitus a century earlier, had perceived the British tribal heroine Boudica (who led her revolt in AD 60) as possessing all the qualities of leadership and courage that Nero (whose army defeated her) lacked with all his perversions and corruption. Both Tacitus and Dio presented Nero and Boudica as diametric opposites and paradoxes, a literary motif which ancient historians liked to deploy.
So, on the face of it one must accept the possibility that Cassius Dio, Herodian and the fourth century biographers, had all set out to run Elagabalus down, precisely because it made others – in this case Severus Alexander – look better. But in this case we are dealing with two historians who lived at the time. That by no means guarantees the veracity of their accounts but it does mean that they were almost certainly reflecting the way Elagabalus was perceived at the time. And that’s important. Their versions of Elagabalus are so extreme that they go way beyond what would have been necessary to give him a bad press and big up Severus Alexander.
His coins, I’m afraid, are neither here nor there. They belong to a long-established tradition of Roman male imperial portraiture and imagery. The portraits of Elagabalus do indeed show his wispy adolescent beard, but they also resemble those of his cousins Caracalla and Geta and that would have been deliberate because it enhanced his spurious legitimacy. The coins were the visible manifestations of the state, an aspect of his reign controlled by his mother and grandmother. Not surprisingly, his sartorial habits and enthusiasm for cosmetics did not make it onto the issued designs just as Nero’s murder of his mother and Edward VII’s partying were omitted from theirs.
Occam’s Razor tells us that the simplest explanation for the stories about Elagabalus is the most likely to be true, or at least to have some truth in them. Dismissing all the ancient accounts as mere fiction, propaganda that had been contrived to paint Elagabalus as the antithesis of what an Emperor was supposed to be, leaves one having to invent an alternative version of events for which there is no evidence. And that’s a tricky solution.
Exaggeration and deliberate emphasis may well have played a part and there is no question that Dio and Herodian were themselves disgusted by Elagabalus’s reputation. However, my instinct in this case is that the stories about Elagabalus and his gender fluid behaviour must have had some foundation or else both Dio and Herodian would have been come up against contemporaries who knew they were not true. Their versions would have had no currency. The fact is that Elagabalus was murdered in short order and replaced by his cousin, which requires an explanation since it can hardly have been the desired outcome four years earlier.
However, where the truth ends and fantasy begins for Elagabalus is not now possible to determine. North Hertfordshire Museum’s decision to take Dio and Herodian at face value is probably as inappropriate as rejecting Dio and Herodian outright too. In that sense, the Elagabalus story is an allegory for all history and events in our own time. This wider question of the reliability of historical evidence and eyewitness testimony, and the effects of selective perception, especially in the light of the Covid Inquiry and other events of our era, is a source of fascination to me. I plan to look at it in a forthcoming piece, linking it also to how modelling and probability are utilised today to fabricate a version of the future, leading to a manipulation of the past in the light of how things turn out.
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Don’t think it’s suitable I’m afraid – the letter is already so full of shit that it can’t absorb any more…
i keep thinking a vaccine is just what we need what with a looming lockdown and all .Then i realised we aleardy have one sort of .This will not get in the way of a good old projection though im sure
maybe you will be come the next lockdown…
Looks like they have finally admitted that not everyone is interested in their poison, if they are now saying that everyone has been offered it.
Looks theyre saying even if you do take it thers plenty more horrible shit to come anyway .I wouod be suspicious
We just need to have a little chat with someone who will allay all our fears.
The army will be along shortly to allay any fears you may have
so they are desperate. Be afraid…
I guess there are still some people who have not had injection no 1 and still want one, so if we end up with 10% in the opposition, I think that’s a good result!
Given the levels of harassment from NHS England, there can’t be many left now – and I expect a lot have given in just to stop the repeated bullying and nagging.
Suprisingly NHS Scotland hasn’t harassed me once, despite the fact I was able to be jabbed back in May, and chose not to be. Is this another case of public services under the SNP in Scotland not being as efficient as those run by the “evil uncaring” Tories in England?
Likewise me in Wales. One phone call from my local surgery back in January. The girl who called me simply said she would record me as “opted out”. Never heard anything since.
I am marked as declined.
I got my blue envelope in May (with that disgusting one sided leaflet in it) and tried to do the right thing by going online to cancel my appointment but only way to do so was to phone national hotline which seemed to then involve at least 90 mins on hold so I just didn’t turn up.
I’ve heard nothing since and logging in online just shows 1 past appointment, no upcoming and says I have received neither dose.
It looks like they wasted huge amount of money booking appointments for everyone in country based on some list of names and addresses (I was down as being at house where my Mum still stays that I moved out of 11 years ago). They then seem to have followed up by actually doing the right thing and leaving it up to individuals to book an appointment or turn up at drop in centres. They should just have done that to begin with, lots of money not wasted and individuals left to make their own decision.
Same with the wife. In fact the chat with her boss about it was most civil, she was told at the time many others had made a similar decision.
I haven’t had any beyond a couple of phone calls, months ago. I thought my daughter’s specialists might have a pop but I, properly, lost my temper in January when some fat bitch of a nurse laughed after making a Horlicks of her blood test so I suspect they have probably thought better of it. I really don’t think they will get mandatory vaccine certs through the courts and the threats are all part of the psych ops.
It is at least reassuring to see that they persist in the use of the term “jabbed.”
This is a scummy, derogatory, insulting and demeaning word which is being used in a medical context but would perhaps be more rightly associated with a veterinary lexicon. It is as if the intended recipients are simply animals.
Whoops….
In order to try and get the beast into us they frame it by using lightweight terms. “jab” sound less intrusive than injection. “Grab a jab” sounds dismissive and throw-away, and “Don’t think too hard about it, just get it done!” No proper checks into your medical history, or looking at know contraindications it may have for you. It’s just a prick after all…
Fuck Off!
If they stop talkinig about endless fucking threat of lockdown it might encourage more people to think it was good idea .instead youve got fuckwit scientists telling everyone were going into lockdown in six weeks so whose going to be interested in a vaccine anyway ??
So everyone who wants to be double jabbed by mid-sept, at which point boosters will begin. We will never have a “fully vaxxed” population, so freedom will always be around the corner, and restrictions will always be needed to tide us over until the next vaccine cycle has finished, and the next.
Sorry to ask ? anyone really…. but dont pandemics actually end at some point they have in the past whats changed and when everyone has had it surely thats it just wondering how the government think they can make a seasonal virus eternal i mean are we still catching the 1986 flu ????
They used to end
Not this one, so far
Many things have changed since the last ones
Perfect storm
Its already ended hasnt it? we know that i think .. what hasnt ended is the opportunity to pull the population around on dog leads with the threat of a fairly innocuous virus,unfortunately, on a fairy dumb population .People have instincts ,they have seen and heard how this virus is behaving ,seen for themselves and gauged the effects it has had on real people but still they wont to be in a dystoian futuer movie and wear masks like its 2045
Not sure it ever really began
Maybe the NPI’s and experimental “vaccines” don’t work? just a thought.
Easy – they just, in true Orwellian style, just keep redefining words to mean what they want them to mean.
The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that’s all.”
oh like virus which used to mean” sorry boss i wont be in tomorrow”
No one had previously tried, and succeeded, in making money out of a pandemic. Now they have, why would they want it all to end? The rich have made as much of a killing, out of exploiting the lower orders, as the Victorian industrialists, with the left begging for further and harsher measures to facilitate the jamboree. The public schools are full on the profits and they are building a rake of prisons to deal with the dregs. And still the useful idiots of the left clamour for further lockdown.
Well lets not do this then!! up to this point no one has “made”us do anything .We are however surrounded by idiots ,yes my fellow coutrymen are idiots who believe in the absence of proper politics that this is real and the hospitals are overcrowded with coughing dying hags like some Wilfred Owen poem
“No one had previously tried … in making money out of a pandemic”
Oh yes they have. The Swine ‘Flu debacle was a precursor of the Covid strategy.
No – it didn’t ultimately succeed. But it was tried.
Let’s hope they end up like Hudson. (the 19th century railway king who went bankrupt).
This one would have ended by now if we’d only jabbed the vulnerable.
As it stands they’ve created an entire population with moderate resistance to the original strain but suppressed immunity to other strains. It is a disaster, and that’s without the potential for ADE (we’ll see if it comes).
Oh, sorry, I forgot about ‘long covid’. The nebulous, ill defined disease that seems to be everywhere and infecting everyone, only no-one actually knows anyone who has it. It is the perfect enemy.
“ if we’d only jabbed the vulnerable.”
Please do f. off with that propaganda stuff, vaccine believer.
Anyway good point, just who are the “vulnerable”.This wildy inclusive new group could be almost anyone who isnt made of titanium.Also apart from the genuinely vulnerable whio are now dead the rest of the quite vulnerable have been vaccinated as have 80% of the population who were never vulnerable .This word has pased into the everyday without ever being really defined and consequently has come to mean nothing .Surely as human beings we are all vulnerable in some way .Thats life and is the way of things we cant stop half of the world giving the other half a cold .If Ethel is going to die in September aged 94 then dont blame the inhabitants of a pub in Bristol average age 27 for making that happen .People die the rest of us live those odds are unchangeable even by the mammoth amount of arrogance this government posess
Yes I’ve never met as many people who have told me they had to have the vaccine because they’re in a vulnerable category. Vulnerable to what? Many of them seem very fit and well to me so maybe it’s just vulnerable to bunions, or backache, or once having Shingles, who knows, but there seems to be a lot of them.
I do believe that the vaccines work to a certain extent.
However they also come with a not-so-small risk of serious side effects, thus they should only have been given to those most at risk — 75+ and some others.
Giving them to anyone with lower risk was madness, as it encourages vaccine escape and doesn’t give enough protection given the risks from covid (which isn’t a theat for the average person).
Giving them to everyone was completly bonkers^2, and has led to the tripple whammy of:
‘However they also come with a not-so-small risk of serious side effects, thus they should only have been given to those most at risk — 75+ and some others.’
This is what I really struggle with and always have. The vulnerable – either through age or underlying health issues – being targeted, fear driven and manipulated, to have something, a series of injections, with a not-so-small risk of serious side effects. Cruel. Callous. Unforgivable.
I know what you are saying. There is no use denying that some people did die from this SARS virus, some quite horribly from what my nurse friend has told me. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
In the beginning I was hopeful that a vaccine would be found that would protect those people…why wouldn’t we want that? Once they moved away from that very small group of people, and as we found out more about the actual MRNA vaccines and lack of any efficacy, linked to adverse reactions and death, it became more obvious that they were unlikely to help anyone. I have never considered the vaccine suitable for anyone under 65, even at the beginning, when we didn’t know what harm they would cause, but those harms have been clear for a long time now and to continue giving them to anyone is unforgivable.
‘I do believe that the vaccines work to a certain extent.‘
Also Father Christmas, tooth fairies and God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost?
Long Covid seems a bit like the monster that lives in the forest. Everybody has heard about it, but nobody has seen it and each story about what it looks like is different…
This one can’t end because it never started.
1968?
Boosters start 13 September for NHS staff.
Hooray ??
Well, they will book asap for the most part. I’m the non mask wearing unvaccinated deviant.
youll bloody pay for that you swine though in reality you wont be any worse than the rest of the population who do go along with this pantomime
Perfect timing
Poor lambs. The third Pfizer….
Expect significant staff shortages come winter.
Is that 12.3% of adults who haven’t had it or does it include those not currently in scope?
Save the NHS wash your hands wear a mask etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc Now do you understand ?
They’ve no idea what the population is. All they know is how many they’ve jabbed.
Their assumption is that the population is 66.8 million. Most independent authorities put it at about 68 million. The supermarkets, based on food demand, put it at about 70 million.
This ‘error’ doesn’t make much difference to the jabbed stats, but as we get closer to 100% it starts to make a huge difference in the unjabbed. (eg, there are supposedly 800,000 unjabbed >50. But if you take 68 million as the population it climbs to about 1.2 million unjabbed >50, ie 50% more. If you take the supermarkets’ estimates of the population you get about 2 million unjabbed >50, 2.5 times the official numbers.
shit were all going to die or something im no longer sure ive read too many newspapers and not enough common sense
Covid: UK faces a difficult summer, says leading scientist …… guess who the leading scientist is ???? correct. serial fuck up Neil Ferguson difficult summer ??? what about last summer, last autumn, last winter, this spring and the half of the sumnmer weve already had which were extremely difficult mostly because of Neil Fergusons Lotto style guess work and what about the fact that the BBC are still listening to this twat who has got nothing right EVER…… desperation is seeping in i think. Check out the BBC for the whole article of made up garbage its got all the old favourites in it ” 2000 a day hospital admissions by the middle of last week” and his new release “up to 500,000 people couold get long covid ,this seems be a solo release with no back up or supporting information .Please do not answer the door to this guy even if he tells you that by this time next year you could well be a year older get proof and ID
‘Long covid’ — the disease that is supposedly ravaging the country yet no-one knows anyone who has it.
What kind of “made up” NO!!!!
I’ve had it. And it’s ok. You do recover. Unlike pregnancy and childbirth. It’s rather refreshing, in factz
I read recently that the medics are looking at treating long Covid with regular doses of the ‘vax’, using ‘outdated’ supplies! It did fleetingly cross my mind how many cases would spontaneously improve if faced with that treatment option…
Definition of vaccine.
a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
LS atl should not be using incorrect terminology, or should be marking it as incorrect. There are no Covid ‘vaccines’. All there are are various forms of experimental gene therapy.
Dr Jobst Landgrebe who has a good little interview on Odysee says they should be called immunogenic substances! Bit of a mouthful but ‘therapy’ always sounds too nice for what they are!
Remember we all havel free will … all 63 million of us Its your votes ,your cash,and your choice how this pans out…. you are not powerless .Stop behaving like tamed animals
They are wrong.
The reason that the easing of restrictions is ‘cautious’ is because they jabbed too many. This has led to covid escaping the vaccines and creating new risks for the vulnerable. They’ve also created an army of asymptomatic spreaders in the vaccinated, which will ensure that covid spreads effectively during this wave (unlike the infected vaccinated, who have symptoms and thus know to keep away from the vulnerable, a high proportion of the vaccinatated will have no symptoms).
We can only hope that they won’t have created ADE in their jabfest. (The authorities’ statements about ‘there’s no sign of ADE thus no ADE’ aren’t reassuring — every other ‘effective’ coronavirus vaccine ended up causing ADE eventually, where ‘eventually’ would be about 6-12 months after initial jabbing, so you wouldn’t expect that there’d be signs of ADE yet. But we can hope, because hope is all we’ve got.)
“You are the reason we are able to cautiously ease restrictions next week, and return closer towards normal life. Now let’s finish the job. If you’re over 18, book both your jabs today.”
Even though the experimental jabs don’t stop people from catching or transmitting the virus (which isn’t fatal to 99.95%+ of the population)?
yes a “bit strange” all of this realy like its not real or something
How odd because apparently ‘cases are skyrocketing’…
sorry whats a case?? is that where a typical person dies on the street in writhing agony or is it like me finding out i had the flu in 1995
There is clearly a period of enhanced risk immediately after each jab for about 2-3 weeks.
To encourage people to take the jab now, during a rapid rise in infections, is crazy.
Their pro-vaccine hubris is putting many people at great risk.
I don’t think they could care less as long as they can get away with it.
Anyway its been over a year did we save the NHS ?????
We created a situation where the NHS now seems to think that the population exists to serve it, not the other way around.
And no wonder. That’s what the idiot zombies were told and that’s what they believe.
I think that has always been the situation, as far as management was concerned, it took this situation to create the conditions whereby the population actually beat pans in the street to celebrate us existing, to serve the NHS.
I think I am right in saying it has its biggest backlog ever
Right.
Currently doing high numbers of catch up elective surgery. Hard to not conclude that it is cosmetic to reduce the number of backlog above all else. Short easy ops that do improve lives enormously, but major surgerynot happening.
To be fair, in my experience, the hospitals are currently working like stink. Sadly the paediatric oncology wards are rammed with kids with cancer, I imagine the adult oncology wards are the same. The GP surgeries are empty. But if you can get a gold plated pension for three or four days a week, why would you not do that and fill your boots privately on the other day.
Any reason for high numbers of children with cancer? I would have thought parents would have fought for treatment for children even if they didn’t for themselves in lockdown.
To be fair to the NHS the treatment for cancer was always available and my daughter started her chemotherapy for an autoimmune condition, last May, but, the same as adults, the little niggles weren’t worth the bother for kids that weren’t in the system, when GP care because inaccessible last spring.
When we noticed issues with our daughter we emailed her specialist and were dealt with and treated immediately. Whether the 14 cancelled appointments might have picked up the issue sooner we will never know…
The oncology wards were frighteningly quiet last summer; how things have changed.
My daughter’s original autoimmune condition (caused by the pre school MMR, for what it is worth) predated this shit show, so I was more than au fait with how shite the NHS is as an organisation and had stored up enough means of direct contact with all the people who matter, which is the only means of getting proper care in the NHS.
The staff are, generally, bloody good and spend most of their lives as frustrated by PHE as the patients but when you have a child with a chronic, incurable but (thank god) treatable disease you quickly work out how to bypass management….
So with that fanfare, I do wonder how they can successfully sell the next lockdown in the Autumn.
Why have a domestic passport if everywhere that takes it will be closed???
What happened to ‘get the first injection, it provides very good protection, the second can wait’? Now two doesn’t protect you completely. People seem to have very short memories.
Yes, they are also stupid.
I have been astounded over and over again by the ability of the public to keep so many opposing facts in their heads at once. You’d think they’d go mad with the situation, but they seem to lap it up.
I suppose the one constant factor is fear — so long as people are fearful they’ll accept any old rubbish as an argument.
Totalitarianism cannot exist without an enemy.
Cognitive Dissonance at its most obvious – they still believe that this or that measure will lead to an end to the situation, even when this or that measure has been used several times already and hasn’t brought an end to the situation.
So much for education, education, education…
The goalposts, as usual, were in constant motion.
Double jabbed Mr Javid still catches the over-hyped coronavirus.
So we still don’t have a cure for the common cold then?
1942 All German Jews offered a trainride.
I still don’t know of anybody who’s died of covid since this hysteria began, I’ve known of 8 people die over the past 16 months, all elderly except 1 who was 62 and over 30 stone, heart failure.
Not much of a deadly pandemic is it?
I’m similar, only I have known a few people that have died of stroke or heart attack in the month following vaccination. Most males in their 50’s, but one fatal stroke in a 21 year old. Also rather a few odd issues after vaccination — a friend going missing and being found in a confused state (male, 40’s), friends that all of a sudden have a resurgence of an old autoimmune problem, etc.
I suppose it must all be a coincidence.
Bell’s palsy in one friend. Irregular heart beat requiring beta blockers in brother in law.
Neither do I, in spite of extensive family and rail industry contacts both in Scotland and England.
Why does it always sound like ATL has a big broad smile when the subject is the “vaccine roll out”. Perhaps they could call it the “vaccine death march” since so many have been left to die on the roadside – that might change the perspective.
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And then they publish their Vaccine Safety update, spelling out the deaths it has caused.
I think there is something pretty sinister about the motivations currently driving the sites publishers
I’m not sure it’s sinister otherwise I wouldn’t hang around here. I think they were naive, having been brought up to believe in the vaxopropaganda like all good rationalists, having been encouraged by twats like Stephen Fry and Dara O’Briain to think that denying vaccine efficacy is the equivalent of believing a visit to Lourdes will cure you of cancer, and overestimating science’s understanding of how vaccines interact with our immune systems, they – like the rest of the media bubble they inhabit – got caught up in that first wave of enthusiasm and really thought that “vaccines will make you free”.
It is now clear beyond contradiction they don’t.
Offered and refused. It’s not a vaccine and I value my health.
Quite right. The other side are allowed to be terrified of the virus. We’re allowed to be terrified of unlicensed gene therapy.
Extraordinary conversation with my mother. Two of her step grand children have got covid after having the vaccine and she thinks that is a compelling reason to…..have the vaccine!?!? The fucking BBC has a lot to answer for.
The boomers have officially left the building. My in-laws the same. They’ll be on monthly doses, given to counteract the effects of the previous month’s dose before they realise they’ve been had. They’ve all joined a death cult sadly.
That’s not true. I’ve never been contacted, not once,never.
You can have one of my 7 invites.
Thanks, but no thanks!,
I rather like being the living refutation of just one of their uncountable lies.
I doubt I could find them now. In other unrelated news I do seem to be in need of a new shredder blade though.
Or one of mine (not actually sure how many, but it’s definitely well above 7 now).
I’ve had 3 texts and one call on my mobile from my GP, 3 letters, 4 calls on my mobile and at least 3 on my landline from the NHS
That must be great. Somehow you’re off grid!
But I’m not! I get my usual prescription every month. I get reminders about checking for bowel cancer. (Oh, what jolly fun that must be.) I do exist, but not covidly!
How odd. Well congratulations on your your non-covidity!
Foo Fighters – pro-vacine and all band members have been jabbed – their concerts would only accept those fans who have been jabbed – their concerts have all now been called off because one of the jabbed band members has tested positive for covid.
Brilliant … there is a god! lol
Can’t help but laugh! Covidians are increasingly tying themselves up in knots.
The Zero Covid of rock bands. Forever condemned to lockdown due to case anxiety
Ha bloody ha.
I’m trying hard not to become tribal about it (which I believe is what ‘they’ want) but right now I’m thinking everyone who’s submitted to this obvious nonsense deserves everything they get from their ‘jab’. They can all go queue for their boosters in autumn as far as I’m concerned and if I’m to be excluded from their social gatherings, then good. 87.8% of the population are complete idiots.
It’s very difficult not to be tribal given the disdain and sometimes outright hostility which emanates from Covidians if you express any opinion which is at odds with the government and MSM-sanctioned orthodoxy!
A perfect summing up……
We seem to be singularly daft in this country.
Meanwhile, USA is waking up and jab take-up is rolling-off (see attached).
In Europe, the daily jab rate peaked mid-May and is now less than half that rate.
Death rates are similar across all countries at about 1 in 30,000.
The wise ones decided to wait and see what happened to the fools who got jabbed first.
The longer this farce goes on the more I’m glad I waited.
Me too. Just found out my sister in law hasn’t bothered either, add her to my wife and adult kids. It’s a comfort to have some sane close family members.
“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.” – Charles Bukowski
I am not sure I believe this. I have had one phone call just after Christmas to ask if I was interested in a jab. I said no. I have had nothing since. Not even a letter. A couple of months ago I noticed the NHS app on my phone. I deleted it without opening it. Nothing since. If the majority of the country had done this we would be on the way to a new civil service by now and less unelected advisers/lobbyists.
We need a dose of Sanity
Sturgeon’s straitjacket is loosened only slightly By Gary Oliver
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/sturgeons-straitjacket-is-loosened-only-slightly/
Stand in South Hill Park Bracknell every Sunday from 10am meet fellow anti lockdown freedom lovers, keep yourself sane, make new friends and have a laugh.
Join our Stand in the Park – Bracknell – Telegram Group
http://t.me/astandintheparkbracknell
Home Schooling – Ex-Primary School Teacher on Resistance GB YouTube Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ5oS2ejye0
https://www.hopesussex.co.uk/our-mission
The “success” of the medical experiments project is why we’re going to have Social Credit Score apps inflicted on us.
All adults may, or may not, have been “offered” a jab, but not all have been foolish enough to have it.