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New Harassment Laws Will ‘Turn Business Owners into Banter Police’

by Toby Young
26 February 2023 1:00 PM

I wrote to Kemi Badenoch, the Business Secretary and Minister for Women and Equalities, on Friday to alert her to the dangers of the Worker Protection Bill and ask her to press the pause button on this momentous piece of legislation that has received very little scrutiny. The Telegraph has the story.

New laws will turn restaurant owners, hoteliers and pub landlords into “banter police”, ministers have been warned.

The Government is introducing new legislation aimed at protecting employees from harassment in the workplace.

But critics fear the change will have far-reaching consequences for free speech and will lead to employers having a “legitimate legal interest in policing what members of the public say”.

An amendment to the Equality Act, backed by ministers, will make employers liable for third-party harassment – meaning from members of the public, as well as from their fellow staff members.

Under clause one of the Bill, employers will be required to take “all reasonable steps” to protect their employees from harassment of any kind, and failure to do so will leave them vulnerable to being sued by their employees in the Employment Tribunal.

Toby Young, General Secretary of the Free Speech Union, has written to Kemi Badenoch, the equalities minister, to urge her to change course.

He said: “The Equality Act has poisoned the atmosphere in workplaces up and down the country.

“Why on earth is a Conservative Government extending the scope of the Equality Act, so when we’re in pubs, bars, restaurants, nightclubs and sports grounds we’ll have to constantly be looking over our shoulders to make sure we’re not being overheard by the banter police? This is the opposite of the ‘war on woke’.

“It’s extending the writ of the woke thought police to every nook and cranny of British society.”

He explained that under the new laws, a member of staff in a pub who is offended by “overhearing some banter between customers” could bring a case for “unwanted conduct” under the Equality Act.

In a letter to Ms Badenoch, he said that “consequently, publicans will have to take ‘all reasonable steps’ to protect their employees from ‘harassment’ of this type, from sticking up notices saying ‘No Banter’, to employing bouncers to police customers’ conversations. These are additional costs that will push many pubs into liquidation”.

Recent research found that corporate culture wars are making the public “hostile” and that Britons are “cynical” and “tired” of attempts by big business to force political views on employees and customers.

Ms Badenoch declined to comment.

The Free Speech Union will be publishing its briefing about the Worker Protection Bill shortly.

Tags: Banter PoliceEquality ActKemi BadenochWar on WokeWorker Protection Bill

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago

If the intended end result of this legislation is the total devastation of the hospitality sector I would argue that the government are on to an absolute winner.

Employees will become unmanageable and customers will soon vote with their feet.

I see a bright future for unlicensed private drinking establishments, otherwise shebeens, which saw spectacular growth during the illegal lockdowns.

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Mogwai
Mogwai
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

People just won’t comply with this though will they? Not when it’s their livelihoods on the line. And who’s going to go round enforcing this nonsense? I call BS on this one. And as for direct harassment of staff from punters, management have always been on top of this and dealt with it accordingly. You tell the customer to behave or they get out. Bouncers on the door are a bonus. I’ve known loads of people get barred over the years. But eavesdropping on someone’s conversation, finding it offensive then grassing them up? Nah. As you say, landlords would lose custom, word would spread and it just wouldn’t be worth the knock-on effect to business.

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EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Whereas in the old days, most pubs were mixed customers with relatively spacious and calm surroundings (the better to chat up the opposite sex!), nowerdays they are either empty or crushed. How does a bar manager monitor what is said (or claimed to have been said by a disgruntled employee) in a crouded bar or at a remote corner of any bar; it cannot be done.

Mogwai seems to think it is only loud drunken ravings that would be caught by the proposed legislation whereas it could be any remark heard or claimed to have been heard by any member of staff.

Why do so many comments suggest this is only a problem for the hospitality sector? The proposed legislation does not say that. I used to be a Director of a Company which sent employees overseas for business. How could we counter a complaint from one of them who claimed to have been offended by a remark while thousands of miles away from the office? Those who were underperforming or just a nuisance could have had us running round in circles with legislation like this.

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EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Why only that sector. What about employers with any engagement with the npublic, suppliers or customers in any country who might say something a difficult member of staff decides they don’t like. You can imagine a salesman who is missing his / her targets reporting alleged offensive language and starting a complaint against their employer as a way of thwarting dismissal.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

I agree there are wider implications beyond the hospitality sector and of course this legislation could and will be used by all aggrieved employees which was a point I made in my original comment.

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psychedelia smith
psychedelia smith
2 years ago

What next? Airline captains being liable for the tone of all conversations onboard their planes? Bus drivers being responsible for pissed up comments shouted down the aisles?

The most frightening explanation for this latest moron festival is that they are orders from global HQ and a further step the long march towards totalitarianism and agenda 2030. Sterilise and destroy the social hubs and gathering places.

If not, and they are genuinely aiming to protect *pub* workers from lairy and off-colour conversations *in a pub* by making their employers legally liable for other people’s speech, then they really do in biological and anatomical terms have shit for brains.

Either way these politicians are highly dangerous and are increasingly becoming our enemy with each passing day.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  psychedelia smith

“The most frightening explanation for this latest moron festival is that they are orders from global HQ and a further step the long march towards totalitarianism and agenda 2030. Sterilise and destroy the social hubs and gathering places.”

“Hilaire Belloc (1870-1953) in 1912 warned the English: “change your hearts or you will lose your inns and you will deserve to have lost them”. Once that disaster occurred, however, he recognised that something terrible would happen: “when you have lost your inns, drown your empty selves, for you will have lost the last of England”.

From an article in The Critic by James Curl 19 January, 2021.

One of the first things that alerted me to the reality of the Scamdemic in 2020 was the assault on our pubs and I remain convinced that this determination to destroy pubs is ongoing. In fact to the Davos Deviants the destruction of pubs is intrinsic to their planning and it is not hard to see why.

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DomH75
DomH75
2 years ago

The situation has been bad for years. You have to keep an eye out the whole time to make sure some mocha-choco-latte-frappéccino-drinking woke-ist scumbag is covertly filming you on his Samsung Galaxy these days! The destruction of pubs has been going since the 1980s. There are very few landlord-owned and -run pubs these days. Even the breweries often no longer own them.

We’ve been in the era of corporate, managed ‘supermarket pubs’ for at least 20 years: oversized, soulless, plastic palaces where children run riot and parents can ask drinkers to tone down their language in front of their little Tristans and Tabithas, while they get loudly p***ed with other mummies and daddies!

The deliberate decimation of the hospitality sector has been about driving people apart. Masking in indoor environments finished the job, as people could no longer talk to one another. When I first moved to London, I found a pub, swiftly got to know people and had a substantial base of friends within weeks.

Politicisation of lockdowns and destruction of hospitality means that (having left London shortly before the lockdowns began) I have no friends where I live. I’m averse to going out, not because I’m scared of phantom viruses, but because I can’t face building a base for myself again (which I had begun to do, pre-lockdown) only for the Government, Ferguson, Michie and Whitty to take it all away from me when the WHO declare an avian flu lockdown immediately after signing the upcoming pandemic treaty. I worry it’ll be 2024 in order to bollix DeSantis’ or Trump’s run for US President.

We’re going to enter a new era of ‘speakeasies’: unlicensed, underground drinking dens where phones and cameras are surrendered on entry. Everything legal and ‘normal’ is being driven underground.

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Lockdown Sceptic
Lockdown Sceptic
2 years ago

“… critics fear the change will have far-reaching consequences for free speech.”

That is obviously the intention.

Why anyone trusts Kemi Badenoch is beyond me. She has been an enthusiastic supporter of every draconian government policy since lockdowns started in March 2020.

Monday 27th February 11am to 12pm 
Yellow FREEDOM Boards 
Junction A329 & 
A322 Downshire Way 
Bracknell RG12 7AA  

Stand in the Park 
Make friends & keep sane 

Sundays 10.30am to 11.30am
Elms Field 
near Everyman Cinema & play area
Wokingham RG40 2FE

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LaptopMaestro
LaptopMaestro
2 years ago

Bars, and the like, will simply stop employing women and snowflakes

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago

Worker Protection Bill.

Surely some mistake:

Woker Protection Bill.

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EppingBlogger
EppingBlogger
2 years ago

All readers should make careful note that what may seem as accidents or drafting or the result of politicised civil servants actually represents the will of Ministers. Only by such understanding can we recognise where the responsibility lays.

If it was otherwise, Ministers would robustly ensure the legislation never reached even a proposal to Cabinet, let alone being presented for a First Reading in Parliament. If backj bench MPs were sufficiently in disagreement with it they would, long ago, have objected and caused a row.

The truth is there is hardly a conservative in the Conservative Party, none opposite them and none at all with any determination. Vote for a party not currently represented in Parliament.

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BurlingtonBertie
BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

My MP is Northern Ireland Minister, no replies to any of my questions regarding the woke & WEF agenda legislation. Tells me everything I need to know about where responsibility lies for implementing this bull dung.

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varmint
varmint
2 years ago

How absurd is it that government concerns itself with garbage like this at a time when we are having to fork out 80 quid a week for gas and electricity, and all the other major problems, like mass illegal immigration, knife and gun crime, and while another young person losses their life to a knife stuck in their throat, their government bussies itself wondering what people might be saying inside a pub. Is this really the proper role of government? NOPE. It is NOT.

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huxleypiggles
huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  varmint

Hear, hear.

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Covid-1984
Covid-1984
2 years ago

Trying not to laugh. Could you imagine the UK Keystone Cops policing this? Inept is too kind a word for these tattooed clowns 🤡 in fancy dress costumes.

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RTSC
RTSC
2 years ago

We don’t have a Conservative Government.

We have one branch of the left-wing, authoritarian, eco-nutter, Westminster Uni Party. And when they’re kicked out of Office, we’ll get another branch of the same party …… unless and until we destroy one of the branches.

The CON branch will be easier to destroy than the Labour one.

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Smudger
Smudger
2 years ago

Kemi Badenoch has no more influence in the Bill in question than I have. Her Party role like Redwood, Baker, Mogg, Patel, and latterly Lee Andersen, is to keep the Tory centre Right vote on side for electoral purposes. These people have carved themselves a niche in the Party structure but at the end of the day the Party drift to the Left continues as it has for the last 30 years. If any of these jokers were true Conservatives they would not be in this wretched Party.

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