Angela Rayner has backed down on “secretive” plans for a new definition of Islamophobia, expanding and extending a public consultation on the proposals, after the Free Speech Union threatened legal action. The Telegraph has more.
The Deputy Prime Minister has expanded and extended a public consultation over the proposals, which critics fear will rubber-stamp a controversial definition.
The consultation will now run for an extra week and a link for responses to the plans has been made public.
The move followed complaints by the Free Speech Union (FSU), which said the new definition was being drawn up behind closed doors.
The FSU wrote to Ms Rayner expressing concern that the process would enshrine a definition which treats Islamophobia as a type of racism.
The definition has been criticised for being so expansive that it could threaten free speech, act as a de facto blasphemy law and stifle legitimate criticism of Islam as a religion.
In his letter, Lord Young, the General Secretary of the FSU, said the consultation questions appeared to be “heavily weighted” in favour of a “predetermined outcome”, endorsing a definition “closely aligned” with that put forward by the all party parliamentary group (APPG) on British Muslims.
The APPG definition was adopted by Labour and stated that “Islamophobia is rooted in racism and is a type of racism that targets expressions of Muslimness or perceived Muslimness”.
Lord Young said key groups that might challenge the definition over its impact on free speech and provide alternative views had not been invited to submit evidence.
He listed Christian Concern, the Christian Institute, the Adam Smith Institute and the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
Ms Rayner’s department has extended the deadline to July 20th and widened the consultees. Lord Young said it needed to give sufficient time to take on board all the responses to the plan.
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Love Dr Sam, she is an absolute star in this crap show.
Just listened to Dr Sam. Have I understood correctly that the early samples of the Coronavirus consisted of just a few strands of it? These genes were then fed into a computer which came up with the whole genome so, depending on which computer was used, different variants could be produced? Is there any proof anywhere that the Coronavirus actually produces a certain range of symptoms which we call Covid-19?
This seems to fit in with reports that Christian Drosten sent the RT-PCR test to the WHO days after the reports of this strange pneumonia found in Wuhan and before the whole genome had been sequenced, then the WHO just accepted it as the gold standard test.
Sorry, I’m not a scientist but I would like to understand if this is what she is saying. Thanks.
You are correct. All based on a lot of assumptions.
Christian Drosten is a liar. A stupid ‘expert’. He did experiments with rabbits and a type of coronavirus that affects rabbits.
The German Neil Ferguson. From various reading it appears there’s one of these cucks in every country; Fauci in the States, and others across the world.
The US are lucky that their “expert”(read idiot) has a name which can be used for puns about fascism, there’s not so much one can do for names like Ferguson or Drosten(maybe puns in German though?).
The virus is very similar to other bat coronaviruses. Full secuences for many of these would have been published in openly available professional databases – by Wuhan researchers amongst others.
Early patients would have had samples taken and sent for sequencing to most of the world’s major labs. A great many of these are in the UK. Researchers in many institutions would have identified the specific features of this virus, interchanged info with other researchers, published sequences and started developing detection kits. Others would have predicted likely clinical paths and hence symptoms to look for..
It is unlikely that any government organisation could have interfered sufficiently with this process to render it suspect. So I think you can depend on the generally-agreed output from this exercise. In other words, there is a specific recognisable covid virus, and it does cause an illness as described.
Thanks for that. Does that mean that each of the labs would have been given different gene sequences and these were fed into their computers rather like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle for which the computer then provided any missing pieces?
I’m struggling to understand it when some people say that this virus has never been isolated in a lab, but others say that it has been.
Are we talking about “isolated” in reality or computer generated?
Thanks again.
Biology was my worst subject at O Level!
No. Labs would obtain complete virus specimens from patients, then replicate and purify them so they had a good sample. They would then use an automatic gene sequence machine, which, simply,
1 – breaks up the genome into small fragments
2 – uses a chemical process to sequence each one
3 – uses a pattern matching computer to re-assemble the fragments into the original order.
because you break the genome into fragments and handle each one in a parallel fashion at the same time, it’s fast. You just need a lot of test tubes – these are associated with the multiple rows of pipettes that you see sometimes in pictures
The spike protein alone produces the symptoms of Covid-19, no virus required.
Pathologist Dr Ryan Cole lays it out clearly in this video
Human cells and Bacteria also contain RNA. So it may be possible to manufacture a viral genome using that.
https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/Odysee-Hunting-Viruses-With-Andy-Kaufmann-1-comp:7
This explains quite a lot of the stuff Sam talks about. And yes basically they seem to be able to make thing up to fit with what they want to ‘prove’.
my own question would be if SARS coV-2 is clearly isolated and easily recognisable, why can no one give definitive symptoms for it? why does the PCR struggle to find it? Why does it get it so wrong? How can it find false positives?
https://blog.waikato.ac.nz/bioblog/2021/04/sam-bailey-on-isolating-viruses-and-why-she-is-wrong/
Wish the links could focus more on practical rebellion, I’m worried that with the courts’ rejection of Simon Dolan’s case we may have gone beyond the point where legal action works in Johnson’s embryonic* dictatorship.
*he’s committed forms of most dictatorial atrocities already, but still emrbyonic as the main consolidation of power isn’t apparent yet
Trouble is that high school or less also ranks highly…just playing devil’s advocate. Master’s degree also ranks at the bottom
People with Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees have generally demonstrated predisposition to conform to the requirements of society while PhDs are more likely to be genuinely intellectually curious?
It is as though you need to achieve a level of Socratic wisdom:
All that I know is that they know nothing.
This is a gem worth knowing !
https://covid19.onedaymd.com/2021/03/quercetin-and-zinc-zelenko-treatment.html
The more educated will also have come to realise that the injection is not a vaccine. Their research will have led them to understand that it is a gene altering substance with no long-term analysis and the makers are free from liability.
LS continuously calling this poison a ‘vaccine’ supports the MSM who demonise us as “anti-vaxxers”.
Plenty of us are NOT at war wih the vaccine, only against the lockdowns, the other tyrannies and the vaccine passport ID card plots. Well done to LS for standing against tyranny without using overly flowery language that would let the label anti-vaxxer be applied to us.
LS continuously calling this a vaccine supports the idea that they can read a dictionary.
A pre- or post-2020 dictionary?
we’re all clearly geniuses!
And that Lord Snooty is a dumbarse:)
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Weaponised ignorance.
Of course, the total number of PhDs – even in a 5m survey – is going to be comparatively low. So we may have less confidence in this finding.
It can be explained simply through social psychology.
1 – The vast mass who are outside the establishment are naturally suspicious of it.
2 – Those who are striving to better themselves inside the establishment are compliant with its every wish
3 – Those who have succeeded and have achieved their position in life have the freedom to make up their own minds…
I’d add, enlarging on your points 2 and 3, that the comfortable establishment position is very tempting to “midwits”, who want to associate themselves with elite positions, and also often lack the intelligence to either see past the establishment case or to defend positions outside the Overton Window when challenged.
If you read the full report:
“Those with professional degrees (e.g., JD, MBA) and PhDs were the only education groups without a decrease in hesitancy, and by May, those with PhDs had the highest hesitancy. To our knowledge, no other study has evaluated education with this level of granularity, which was possible due to our unusually large sample size (>10,000 participants with PhDs).”
>10k PhDs is not such a small number.
But but . . . the BBC said they’re all ant-vaxxers, outliers and trouble makers – though I’m sure there’s a chunk of people at the BBC that aren’t falling for this crap but are having to tow the line.
Can I just add as well – it’s not vaccine hesitant. That’s media speak to make to make people believe they’re umming and arr’ing and maybe could do in the future. Some of us are simply saying NO and never will – there’s no hesitation about it.
Too right, the word hesitancy applies to those who “probably won’t” or “won’t for now” or “won’t until X happens”. For those who definitely won’t refusal, as is their right for any medical procedure, applies and should be used to reflect the fact that coercion is worthless as it WILL NOT WORK for such people who have made a strong decision.
For another explanation see my long post, PhD and professional quals are very different to the taught quals in “learning” style. In a PhD or professional qual one often isn’t so much studying as simplying doing, and picking up necessary knowledge and skills as and when needed. Whereas up until masters the higher you rise the more accustomed you get to taking al info on trust and wrote memorising it for exams. The good news is that as everyone with a PhD, and many with professional quals, took a masters first, it seems that a few years of learning for yourself undoes the psychological damage which exam cramming causes up until and through masters level.
Be honest and tell everything!!! Results from cited survey: “COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy decreased by one-third from January to May, with relatively large decreases among participants with Black, Pacific Islander or Hispanic race/ethnicity and ≤high school education. In May, independent hesitancy risk factors included younger age, non-Asian race, having a PhD or ≤high school education, living in a rural county, living in a county with higher 2020 Trump support, lack of worry about COVID-19, working outside the home, never intentionally avoiding contact with others, and no past-year flu vaccine”
It would be interesting to see how these figures have changed since the end of May, since much more information about adverse vaccine effects has come out since then, as well as increasing information about the lack of effectiveness of the vaccines in preventing infection and transmission.
Totally unscientific in my case, but I have made the same observation about wokeism and Brexit among my fairly diverse circle of friends and acquaintances.
Those who are pro-woke and remainers tend to be well educated but not obviously high IQ. The sort of people who know a lot about their area of expertise but are limited in more general understanding and poor at questioning and debate.
Those I know who are anti-woke and pro Brexit are either in low-paid jobs and have no further education, or are the exceptional minds – those who debate and reason well, have very high level jobs in areas that require more holistic thinking.
Seems almost a perfect divide among the groups. Interestingly, I find most of those with the lower education levels tend to have a more inquiring mind even if they don’t have the same level of exposure to education. There are a few gullible, unquestioning, people among them, but generally speaking they ask more questions.
My assumption has always been that those who have some intelligence but don’t have an enquiring mind tend to go with whatever they are told by people in authority as they are served well by the status quo and don’t have the curiosity, capacity or need to question.
Those who have brilliant minds ask questions of everything, and those more excluded from society question everything.
Good post. That is my experience also.
I think if you are low paid and in a manual job you are more likely to have found the lockdowns difficult to deal with but also been in a position to observe how little risk the virus posed in reality. Making you much more cynical about the politicians and media and their motives. You are probably also having more daily face to face contact with people than if you are a middle income “worker from home” and have a better connection with the real world.
I think the other factor is the level of consumption of mainstream media and involvement in social media. I am almost alone in my (middle class professional) social circle in that I don’t have a TV licence and therefore have to actively go out and find news and information rather than have it constantly on in the background. Similarly I am not on social media like facebook and twitter and all of my relationships are real world ones. Pretty much everyone else I know has rolling news constantly on in the background and is constantly on facebook and Twitter and therefore exposed to the relentless narrative and propaganda.
Hmmm? Does it really take a genius to read scientific facts and apply them to your decisions? Well if they say so, from now on I’d like to be addressed as Ebygum, Doctor, Master, Bachelor, PhD, BH (Calcutta) Failed. Thank you!
(that last for the oldies who remember the Perishers.)
Careful! You might accidentally uncover support for Trump among the educated.
Makes sense. People with some college or degrees are likely to have just swallowed the Kool Aid they’re fed and were probably only doing it in order to get a nice cushy job which involves doing as you’re told and not questioning anything (and maybe getting a vaccine as well) in order to keep it and get ahead.
Master’s and, even more so, PhDs are going to think more critically and independently about things, question and critique what they’re told and weigh up opposing evidence and viewpoints.
Therein lies the crux of the problem: the bulk of the “educated” classes are taught what to think, not how to think. These are the people that run the country, the media and the institutions.
God help us all.
“Vaccine hesitancy” is a poor term. Hesitancy implies a pause before something you will actually do.
I am not pausing before doing something, I am saying “fuck off, no”.
Can’t we just call it “not vaccinated”? So the above would become, for example, “…such as that counties with higher levels of support for Donald Trump in the 2020 election had higher levels of people not vaccinated.”
This is far more accurate, we don’t know whether they are “hesitant” or saying “no, fuck off”, so it’s misleading to use the term “hesitant”.
It’s a good term if your objective is to nudge people into getting vaccinated, because it implies you probably will eventually. One alternative phrase I’ve heard is “vaccine cautious” but there’s got to be a better one. I think we need a phrase that more generally encompasses a rational assessment of risks vs benefits of ALL medical procedures.
What about “gene therapy refuseniks” because they sure as hell ain’t injecting a vaccine?
What is your preferred definition of “vaccine”? How is “gene therapy” defined?
There are two terms, the hesitant do exist, they exist aplenty, but there are also outright refusers. Trying to mark refusers as hesistant does seem to be an attempt to pretend coercion would work.
Informed non consenter.
As opposed to (the vast millions) uniformed CONcented. (to the clot shot)
PS. You are right in the context of this article though, it should say not vaccinated there, part of the problem here is that because the MSM are bombarding us with particular phrases all day long it’s hard not to fall into the trap of using those phrases ourselves.
Indeed. I’m not vaccine hesitant for two reasons: 1: It’s not a vaccine 2: I’m not hesitating I’m refusing
Quite happy with all my actual vaccines – yellow fever, tetanus etc. Never more certain about anything than that I’m not going to take an experimental mRNA gene therapy that: does very little to protect me against a disease I’ve already got natural immunity to; that even if I hadn’t would be approximately half as risky to me in any given year as crossing the road is; and that has the worst record of adverse effects of any medical intervention since trepanning.
No “hesitancy” even comes into it. I’d have to be fucking insane to take it.
40K people died on british roads in 2020, despite reduced traffic caused by the government’s attack on our economy. Given we know covid deaths have been badly over-counted it would appear that road deaths in 2020 could potentially outnumber true covid deaths.
Careful now, they’ll be using that to ban cars. Oh wait . . .
I knew there was a reason why I got my engineering degree and C.Eng.
I don’t like the term ‘vaccine hesitant’ because a) it’s not a vacccine, it’s an experimental gene therapy, and b) it’s not ‘hesitant’, it’s ‘enlightened’.
It is my experience that those with a curious and genuinely intelligent mind, free of groupthink, will not touch this poison with a bargepole…
A degree in the US is not (or used not to be) the same as a degree in Europe. The first year of a US degree is basically A Levels. Their masters courses take 2 years.
Sick of the term Vaccine hesitancy, I much prefer the ‘Look before you leap’ principle, the most basic of all risk assessments.
Wow. Those most-educated folks are just as smart as yours truly, who left school at sixteen.
Not sure that it applies in the UK. I work in an organisation where a high proportion of the staff would be described as well educated (majority with degrees, and a fair few with Master’s / PhDs. Nearly all of them are very pro-vax.
Don’t know any anti-vaxxers in my workplace, and I’m not an anti-vaxxer (I’m a lockdown sceptic and an “I will have this vaccine when this government stop coercing and treat the vaccine as a way straight to true normality, not as the entry price to a new abnormal”), but I know more lockdown sceptics with PhDs or hard science undergrad degrees than I do sceptics with less qualifications. Not that sceptics seem a majority in either group, but still more common with rising education.
Kinda makes sense.
I listened to the Delingpod pod cast with a blogger called Morgoth. He reckoned the biggest sceptics were IQ at the lower end (could just tell by intuition that the narrative didn’t stack up, didn’t bother thinking about it too hard) or those with an IQ over 140, who can assimilate the information logically and know exactly why the narrative doesn’t make sense. The “man in the middle” all buys into the madness. Well maybe not all, but a lot of them.
IQ over 140 is pretty extreme. 99.6% of people are lower than that.
Most of the people in control today…in business, academia, politics, science, wherever….they’ll be in that middle category. I work with plenty of people with science based PhDs who are struggling with it. Met one for a drink yesterday… Cambridge nat scis degree, and PhD…”but the vaccines produce an antibody response better than natural infection”.
No thought as to what “better” might mean or how whoever pumped out that shite might be using the word “better” in order to manipulate.
They produce an antibody response which should be almost exactly equal to natural infection what the vaccines don’t do is train the T cells or the other first line immune defences.
That’s not exactly true. They produce fewer IgA antibodies and they are v short lived, and practically no IgM ones. Masses of IgG – more than natural infection – but very specifically targeted at S1 subunit. Not sure about T cell. May be too soon to tell for sure
So more of a very narrow type of antibody. More is not better.
I’ve seen it argued that it is “better” because the dose given is sufficient to generate 4 times the number of antibodies, but the reason the dose was set that high is that most of the vax antibodies are non-neutralising, the kind that doesn’t actually work against the virus and potentially causes ADE as the vaccine wears off https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.07.21253098v2
Yes, as I say, more is not better. More is to cover up crap, I reckon.
Pretty much every bit of this scamdemic doesn’t hold up to scientific scrutiny. I’m not convinced the antibody argument does either.
https://theinfectiousmyth.com/coronavirus/AntibodyTestingForCOVID.pdf
An interesting correlation, that U curve with education. Wonder if it might be that for folks with very little education they’ve never grown accustomed to trusting everything told, and folks with a PhD have grown accustomed to working things out themselves (I’m about a month away from membership in that latter camp), but heading up towards masters degrees people get ever more used to cramming for exams and start just taking anything heard on trust.
Actually lots of other interesting correlations too in the medrxiv paper:
..oddly a lot of people saying they’d probably get the vaccine mention they think others need it more,
..really odd discontinuity in data for elderly hispanics (wonder whether it links to a specific historic cultural event they were old enough to have lived through),
..”don’t like vaccines” is only highly common in the definite refusal group rather than the “probably nots”,
..trust in government is surprisingly high in the “probably nots” (25% distrust),
..side effect concerns same for definitely nots, probably nots and probably yeses,
..regular and part-time social distancers less hesitant than full-time isolationists or undistancers,
..no effect of an elderly person in the home affecting hesitancy (folk have the sense to know that if you ger the vaccine it doesn’t do anything for those around you, hence no need ever for vax passports),
..apparently no question on “have you ever suspected you’ve had covid-19”, only a question of if positively tested, would be interesting to compare results from the two,
..hesitancy scarcely different among areas with different covid death rates, except a bit different for the lowest quartile of counties,
..not that much difference between democrat and republican areas, but big difference between trumpist and anti-trumpist areas, would have been good if they’d asked the folk their political views too as well as just looekd at where they lived,
..higher hesitancy rates for those not “working” from home, so folks who’ve had more chance of exposure have clearly got a better feel for the real risks of covid,
P.S. if the researchers ever do read this post: PLEASE DO NOT USE YELLOW LINES ON GRAPHS WITH WHITE BACKGROUNDS!!! Swap them to black, grey or dashed, I would advise orange but you’ve already used that colour for another line. Chartreuse green often works well too, stands out nicely, none of your existing colours are close enough to it to confuse with it.
I live and work in a very working class area. The paradox i’m witnessing is that the working class seem to have an instinctive knowing that something isn’t right, they don’t trust the gov and know they’re being at least partly lied to about the pandemic……but the majority of them are going out and getting jabbed anyway and too many for silly reasons like going on holiday etc.
I have conversations with vaccinated people at work about how the entire thing is a fraud and they agree! Insanity.
Well, forgive me for venting: I am relieved, if a little surprise to read this.
My BSc was Genetics, with genetics and immunogenetics, microbiology and virology; and my PhD in low template PCR analysis of trace DNA of the Human Leucocyte Antigen system. I worked professionally in IT between my undergarduate and graduate degrees. So I would like to think I have a good grasp of the basics and understood the initial plan as ‘conventional wisdom’. This is essentially the one still pursued in Sweden and advocated by the brilliant Sunetra Gupta, Martin Kulldorff, Jay Battachayra, et al.
Since mid-March 2020, its been absolute daily torture from which it is impossible to escape, cognitively – and physically:
The abandonment of Plan A (the pandemic preparedness guidelines) for untried and untested Plan B, the pointless masks and deadly lockdowns, abandonment of the major pillars of immunity, using a PCR based test entirely wrongly and inappropriately, being mesmerised by the modellers (who seem to be mathematicians and economists, not life scientists) and reading the scathing reviews by professional programmers of Imperial’s rubbish code (why am I not surprised?), and investing everything in vaccines – knowing the limited efficacy of ‘flu vaccines.
Far worse though has been the unethical – I would say wicked – manipulation of public opinion to which much of the scientific / University community has acquiesced or actively colluded: the Royal Society / Oxford ‘masks work’ advocacy research, the 1200 concerned scientists’ letter – some pf whom are former colleagues, the accusations that questioning the narrative is ‘dangerous’, the appalling bullying of SG, MK and JB, and the confirmation that using fear and whipping up hatred is actually ethical behaviour in science and psychology..
F*ck me. You’re never too old to learn.
Apologies
Anyone who trusts any government on any issue at any time is an idiot.
vaccine hesitancy NO………clot shot never ist
All this study shows is that having a Ph.d doesn’t make you smart or a good decision-maker. Look at all the bloviator scientists discussed here ever day with their models and their questionable notoriety.
I am sure they have Ph.Ds but their ‘advice’ is not up to any standard. Dr. Fauci has a Ph.d. Having a Ph.d, in neither a necessary nor sufficient condition for being a good decision-maker.
As to the anti-vax movement I ask; what do you think is a viable alternative to non-sterilizing immunity vaccines for the over 65 crowd ?
I also challenge anyone here to provide an accurate database of deaths ’caused’ by the vaccines. Not VAERS and not just correlation.
Send it to me at Ltristano2008@gmail.com.
Just the data please, not the Ad Hominem.
“As to the anti-vax movement I ask; what do you think is a viable alternative to non-sterilizing immunity vaccines for the over 65 crowd ?“
Most of the resistance are not “anti-vax”, of course, just anti-this particular novel experimental treatment being rolled out before full testing on the basis of a spurious claim that we face an emergency, or even just against coercion in its implementation.
Personally I don’t have a problem with the treatment being given to those especially vulnerable, provided it’s with genuinely fully informed consent and provided it’s properly costed on the usual basis used for medical treatments. But I’ll answer on behalf of any genuine anti-vaxers there might be: the viable alternative to giving the new treatment is not to give it. It’s not as though covid is some kind of unprecedented plague, nor is it as though any of us are going to live forever.
The simple truth is that if we had not been bombarded with scare propaganda and railroaded into ridiculous panic measures, we wouldn’t even be noticing that there was anything particularly unusual about the situation now. Perhaps a few hospitals would have an unusual patient profile and some doctors would be writing papers about an unusual uptick in respiratory illnesses in the very old. That’s about it.
“I also challenge anyone here to provide an accurate database of deaths ’caused’ by the vaccines. Not VAERS and not just correlation.”
Nobody can, of course, because there is no system in place to properly monitor vaccine consequences.
But you cannot conclude from that, that there are no such deaths, of course. What you should be asking yourself is: how is it that such an obviously wise and necessary precaution has never been implemented? Who gains from having merely a ramshackle system of self-reporting that rarely generates any usable information?
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